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Posted at 1:48 AM ET, 01/19/2011

Former Redskins QB Campbell lauds Raiders hiring of Hue Jackson

By Jason Reid

Oakland Raiders owner Al Davis is counting on new Coach Hue Jackson and quarterback Jason Campbell to play major roles in the organization's continued progress.

Jackson was an assistant on the Redskins' staff for three seasons, coaching running backs during the 2001-02 seasons and rising to offensive coordinator in 2003. Campbell, a former Redskins first-round draft pick in 2005, was the team's starting quarterback for three-plus seasons before being traded to Oakland in April.

During Tuesday's news conference in Oakland to introduce Jackson, Oakland's offensive coordinator during the 2010 season, Davis expressed optimism about what Jackson and Campbell could accomplish together in the 2011 season and beyond. Back in the area for part of the offseason, Campbell said Davis made the right decision in promoting Jackson.

"He's the guy who was there with us this year when we made progress," Campbell said Tuesday night after a business dinner in Bethesda with his longtime friend, Eric Shuster, Comcast SportsNet mid-Atlantic's director of strategic partnerships. "He knows the ins and outs of our team. He knows what we need to improve on and what we need to continue to grow in.

"The guys can relate to him because he was there with us. He was as big a part of us turning our season around as anyone. With him coming there, and with the offense he brought and the mind-set to go out and compete and play hard, he was a big part of the reason we were 8-8 and 6-0 in the [AFC West] division. When you keep the same coaches, it gives guys some stability."

Initially disappointed about being traded from Washington to Oakland, Campbell said the move was great for his career.

"It feels good just to see Mr. Davis go on TV and express how he feels about me as a quarterback," Campbell said. "Just to have him in your corner, to have an owner in your corner, is just a great feeling. And to have guys embrace you and make you feel welcome ... and just the season we had.

"You know, Oakland has been through some rough times. And for us to go out this year and to become a team that's getting that respect again, a team that has young players with a bright future, it's an exciting time. It's an exciting time in my life, career-wise and off the field."

In addition to solidifying his standing as the Raiders' No. 1 quarterback, Campbell also recently became engaged.

"I just thank God for the many blessings," he said. "Sometimes you don't see why things happen. You don't understand why they happen. But you can look back and be thankful it happened. ... Overall, I'm just happy."

The Redskins (6-10) finished last in the NFC East for the third consecutive season. Donovan McNabb, Campbell's replacement, struggled and his agent repeatedly blasted Coach Mike Shanahan and offensive coordinator Kyle Shanahan for their handling of the six-time Pro Bowler.

Washington traded second- and fourth-round picks for McNabb, who likely will be with the team for only one season. In addition to the McNabb situation - which even Mike Shanahan acknowledged was like a "soap opera" - Pro Bowl defensive lineman Albert Haynesworth also had season-long issues with management and was suspended without pay for the final four games of the season.

"I kinda felt bad for the guys I played with who were still here," Campbell said. "I know how hard they work, how tough they are and how much they want to win. For them to have to go through another rough season, after the two we had just had, I know it's tough because I know how guys feel.

"To see all the stuff that went on here, I know it hurt them. They want to be seen as a team that just handles its business, goes out to compete and win games. But it seemed like every time you looked up, there was something else going on."

By Jason Reid  | January 19, 2011; 1:48 AM ET
Categories:  Jason Campbell, Mike Shanahan  
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Congrats on the engagement, Jason.

As for playing for the Raiders, better hope that free agency doesn't chew up your OL and key offensive players.

Or that defense.

Raiders have a lot of work to do to maintain the team they had in 2010.

Posted by: zcezcest1 | January 19, 2011 2:26 AM | Report abuse

Good for you Soup. Keep it up.

Posted by: _Stumped_ | January 19, 2011 2:30 AM | Report abuse

Pity the Skins while you can, JC. Next year we're going 10-6 while you'll be 6-10.

Posted by: spunkydawg1 | January 19, 2011 3:10 AM | Report abuse

Sadly I don't see us going 10 n 6.

I think 8 n 8 n that's with the ball bouncin our way a few times

Think bout it there was bout 3 or 4 plays that woulda put us away if we didn't either luck out or ball out

Ie, crosby makes a field goal, johnson holds an end zone grab, we also played in what 4 ot games??

Posted by: brandon_in_cali | January 19, 2011 3:15 AM | Report abuse

Sadly I don't see us going 10 n 6.

I think 8 n 8 n that's with the ball bouncin our way a few times

Think bout it there was bout 3 or 4 plays that woulda put us away if we didn't either luck out or ball out

Ie, crosby makes a field goal, johnson holds an end zone grab, we also played in what 4 ot games??

Posted by: brandon_in_cali | January 19, 2011 3:16 AM | Report abuse

Luis murphy, heywardbey, jacoby ford

Or

Santana Moss, Ant Armstrong, banks or austin

Would do ya take???

Posted by: brandon_in_cali | January 19, 2011 3:21 AM | Report abuse

We should not worry about recievers right now. Nor should we worry about getting rid of Mcnabb. As we were all witness to this weekend, we saw what happened to the New England offense when the quarterback started taking hit after hit. If Mcnabb leaves after this season, it would mean another wasted 2nd and 4th round pick. In addition, you waste more picks trying to replace him. It is totally ridiculous. This is why we can never build a winning team. If Campbell or Mcnabb had a tiny bit of an offensive line that could protect for more than thre or four miliseconds, then perhaps they could have done a little something. A little running game would be nice as well, since we have zero.

Posted by: jfoster1000 | January 19, 2011 4:05 AM | Report abuse

JReid cannot stop grinding on this axe of his.

Who cares?

Posted by: PS7900 | January 19, 2011 4:31 AM | Report abuse

Brandon in Cali by the same token there were a few games that we should have won but we blew. As long as I have been watching football there is one thing I know you can't predict a record for any team for the next season so let's just wait and see what moves they make and how the ball bounces next season.

Posted by: clwalker1906 | January 19, 2011 4:41 AM | Report abuse

Think bout it there was bout 3 or 4 plays that woulda put us away if we didn't either luck out or ball out

Ie, crosby makes a field goal, johnson holds an end zone grab, we also played in what 4 ot games??

Posted by: brandon_in_cali | January 19, 2011 3:15 AM


This line of thinking is oversimplifying at best...this is the NFL, dude. There's no 62-0 blowouts or style points involved. Most games are going to be close and you can nitpick what won or lost a game in just about any given week. You win some of those and you lose some of those. The teams that can win close and make fewer mistakes tend to be the ones that win more consistently than others.

So just like you can say the Skins could/should have lost a couple of games, they could/should have won at least a couple more. It all tends to even out in the end, so we're probably 6-10 anyway...when you're sub-.500 does it really matter if we pull out a win against the Texans or Lions if we then lose to the Titans or Packers? Not really.

As Parcells said back in the day, "you are what your record says you are." Nothing more, nothing less.

Posted by: brownwood26 | January 19, 2011 5:38 AM | Report abuse

Just read some bad news for our Skins...looks like Philly is close to getting Jim Washburn from Tennessee.

That hurts us two-fold: it basically takes the Titans out of the running for AH's services, and it strengthens a division rival at a spot we can't afford them to get better at: D-line play. I hope to God this falls thru and Philly continues to middle on defense...

Posted by: brownwood26 | January 19, 2011 6:10 AM | Report abuse

I thought J-Reid was out of here, why the f-ck are we still reading post about a guy who no longer plays here?

J-Reid this would have made a good story for the sports page but for a Redskins blog no thanks, where is your replacement?

Posted by: Flounder21 | January 19, 2011 6:18 AM | Report abuse

The key comparison identified in the thread is about the difference in levels of "respect" from the top within the Raiders organization v the Skins organization. Concepts like respect and dignity have not been part of the culture at Ashburn for a while. Only money. Kind of like the rise of a communications magnate from Rockville and Wooten High to Potomac. Never got respect, but got lots of money.

Posted by: dcsween | January 19, 2011 6:35 AM | Report abuse

Exactly, Flound...JReid's addiction to former Redskins has long been a thorn in the side of us Skins fans that would like to hear more about CURRENT Redskins. No surprise he's talking Raiders since there's a grip of ex-Redskins there...plus he's a SoCal guy anyway...

Something tells me we're in for a very long, boring offseason...

Posted by: brownwood26 | January 19, 2011 6:36 AM | Report abuse

... I've told the Chris Doleman in SF story on this. It was night and day. He sucked on one side and was a beast on the other.

Great athletes can be put in spots where they don't use their skills at max effectiveness. That's where I see Orakpo in this 3-4.

Posted by: zcezcest1 | January 19, 2011 1:00 AM

So essentially, Brian Orakpo is more like Derek Zoolander (NOT an ambiturner) than Adalius Thomas.

Posted by: dcsween | January 19, 2011 6:37 AM | Report abuse

The key comparison identified in the thread is about the difference in levels of "respect" from the top within the Raiders organization v the Skins organization. Concepts like respect and dignity have not been part of the culture at Ashburn for a while. Only money. Kind of like the rise of a communications magnate from Rockville and Wooten High to Potomac. Never got respect, but got lots of money.

Posted by: dcsween | January 19, 2011 6:35 AM |

The Raiders have respect is that why there owner and new coach were at a press confernece yesterday bashing there old coach.

Is that why there owner backed out on paying his coach when he fired him.

Hue Jackson will realize when in 2-3 years Al Davis is at a podium with his new coach bashing Hue.

Posted by: Flounder21 | January 19, 2011 6:45 AM | Report abuse

Is that why there owner backed out on paying his coach when he fired him.

Posted by: Flounder21 | January 19, 2011 6:45 AM


Which one? Isn't Shanahan STILL in court with Al Davis? Or were you talking about Lane Kiffin?

Hell, Tom Flores and Art Shell might be the only two Raiders coaches Al Davis HASN'T disrespected...

Posted by: brownwood26 | January 19, 2011 6:53 AM | Report abuse

Good for you Soup. Keep it up.

Posted by: _Stumped_ | January 19, 2011 2:30 AM | Report abuse

LOL keep what up??? Jc lost his starting job by week 5 and the only reason he got it back was because Gradkowski got hurt and was put on IR!!!!!

I have the NFL ticket and made it a point to watch JC this year....I saw the same old same old all year....stats are bout the same as they were with the Skins....One game I remember well was an OT game where the Raiders won...On the winning drive JC threw two passes right at defenders and they were both dropped...then they get an interfernce call that puts them in FG range...they run it 3 times then kick and win....JC was still awful!!!

Posted by: leevi98 | January 19, 2011 6:56 AM | Report abuse

Speaking of classes and profs, it's usually the student who fails the final but it seems like Prof Brady (Verizon Fios commercial) pulled a solid "F" on his final in Foxboro on Sunday, no?

Posted by: TubularBells |

If by that you mean he didn't throw to blanketed receivers often enough, by all means yes.

Credit belongs to shutdown corners (listening DeAngelo?) and brilliant defensive strategy more than ineptness on Brady's part.

Posted by: TheCork | January 19, 2011 7:20 AM | Report abuse

Wasn't Campbell benched twice this season? I'm sure that Al Davis has his back. Not so sure if that's a good thing.

Posted by: randysbailin | January 19, 2011 7:26 AM | Report abuse

I thought J-Reid was out of here, why the f-ck are we still reading post about a guy who no longer plays here?

J-Reid this would have made a good story for the sports page but for a Redskins blog no thanks, where is your replacement?

Posted by: Flounder21

Flounder I thought YOU were his replacement?

Posted by: TheCork | January 19, 2011 7:27 AM | Report abuse

leevi, either your definition of "awful" is, um, awful...or you have no idea what makes for a good QB.

An 84 QB rating is far from "awful". Not everyone is going to post a 100 rating, so unless Vick, Rivers, Rodgers, and Brady are the only good QBs in the league, it's time to start adding a little perspective to just what JC is: a decent NFL starter that's good but not exceptional.

You know who's right around JC's passer rating? Eli Manning, Carson Palmer, Kyle Orton and Jay Cutler. Sounds about right to me...

Posted by: brownwood26 | January 19, 2011 7:28 AM | Report abuse

I thought J-Reid was out of here, why the f-ck are we still reading post about a guy who no longer plays here?

J-Reid this would have made a good story for the sports page but for a Redskins blog no thanks, where is your replacement?

Posted by: Flounder21

Flounder I thought YOU were his replacement?

Posted by: TheCork | January 19, 2011 7:27 AM |

It wouldn't be that difficult thats for sure.

Even you have to admit that the threads have not been that great over the last several months.

When's the next dis-membered girl thread coming?

Posted by: Flounder21 | January 19, 2011 7:31 AM | Report abuse

Who cares?

Posted by: wireman65 | January 19, 2011 7:36 AM | Report abuse

zcezcest1

Raiders have a lot of work to do to maintain the team they had in 2010.

True.

But the AFC West is a very open division.

They'll be fine.

The redskins are the team I worry about as unlike Oakland, we don't have a settled quarterback situation.


Posted by: MistaMoe | January 19, 2011 7:39 AM | Report abuse

Who is this Jason Campbell dude, and why would anyone on a Redskins blog give a damn about anything he might have to say -- and about the Raiders, no less?

Posted by: Vic1 | January 19, 2011 7:45 AM | Report abuse

The redskins are the team I worry about as unlike Oakland, we don't have a settled quarterback situation.

Posted by: MistaMoe | January 19, 2011 7:39 AM |

Moe,

I wouldn't say that the Raiders have a settled QB situation. What is Hue going to do when JC has a few bad games and he gets the call from Davis to go to the back up?

Davis has his hands in the day to day 100 times more the Snyder ever has, he will make Hue make player changes and scheme changes and if he doesn't he will be getting bashed at the podium by Al.

Posted by: Flounder21 | January 19, 2011 7:45 AM | Report abuse

Good for Campbell, but he's a Raider now, so let's move on, shall we?

Posted by: RedSkinHead | January 19, 2011 7:51 AM | Report abuse

Flounder21

When's the next dis-membered girl thread coming?



Whenever she gets her sh!t together.

Posted by: MistaMoe | January 19, 2011 7:58 AM | Report abuse

I wouldn't say that the Raiders have a settled QB situation. What is Hue going to do when JC has a few bad games and he gets the call from Davis to go to the back up?

Posted by: Flounder21 | January 19, 2011 7:45 AM


I doubt that happens, Flound...part of the reason why Hue is the HC there is because he was backing JC at a time when Cable wanted to play Gradkowski. Since Al and Hue wanted the same thing (JC to play), Hue is the coach and Cable is in Seattle.

Hue will probably get the axe in Oakland within the next couple of years...but JC isn't likely to be the reason.

Posted by: brownwood26 | January 19, 2011 8:09 AM | Report abuse

What is Hue going to do when JC has a few bad games and he gets the call from Davis to go to the back up?

Jackson will bench him just like he did this past season.

Thing is, you know like I do, the raiders will draft another receiver (Jacoby Ford and a kid like Green/Jones/Chapman?) and quarterback with the idea of grooming someone behind Campbell as they improve their offense.

In other words, they will do what we shoulda done.

And that's why to me, their situation is way more settled than ours.

Posted by: MistaMoe | January 19, 2011 8:11 AM | Report abuse

Your take on Campbell is asinine.

We did improve on Campbell in a couple ways.

We got more wins, and Dmac was passing for more yards/game despite being in his first year of a new offense (where Campbell was in Year 2).


Posted by: p1funk

Hmmm, seems to me Campbell got more wins in OAK than McNabb+Rex did here.

Posted by: zcezcest1 | January 18, 2011 8:43 PM | Report abuse


Your point had to do with whether the Skins QBs improved in 2010 on what Campbell provided in 2009.

And they did.

Campbell contributed to 4 wins.

These guys contributed to 6.

That's called improvement.

Posted by: p1funk | January 19, 2011 8:15 AM | Report abuse

Lauds? Come on Reid, I know you got a new job and you are trying to impress, but it's a little early to have to get my dictionary.

Where did you come up with that word anyway, was it on your 'Word of the Day' toilet paper???

Posted by: monk811 | January 19, 2011 8:17 AM | Report abuse

I can't believe the JC debate lives on even a year after he's gone...you usually have to be really good or really bad to be talked about so frequently. I guess the team's mediocrity has even seeped into the discussions surrounding it...

Posted by: brownwood26 | January 19, 2011 8:29 AM | Report abuse

He'll be talked about at least until we get our valuable 4th rd. pick we got for him. Horrible failures never die around here.

Posted by: monk811 | January 19, 2011 8:35 AM | Report abuse

He'll be talked about at least until we get our valuable 4th rd. pick we got for him. Horrible failures never die around here.

Posted by: monk811 | January 19, 2011 8:35 AM | Report abuse

when will we get a Rock Cartwright update???

Posted by: BeantownGreg1 | January 19, 2011 8:36 AM | Report abuse

when will we get a Rock Cartwright update???

Posted by: BeantownGreg1 | January 19, 2011 8:36 AM


Exactly...I'm half expecting a guest post by JLC to touch on Leigh Torrance one more time...

I mean, I'd get it if it were focused on former Skins still playing...like Ryan Clark or even Howard Green...but JC? Dude knows he's tossing a stink bomb right in the middle of the blog by doing that...

Posted by: brownwood26 | January 19, 2011 8:42 AM | Report abuse

JC was 7-5 as a starter for the freaking raiders. just kills me to think about the draft picks & money wasted on the overrated has-been loser. I'm not saying JC was the long term answer but he's serviceable & I would have loved to see what he could do with competent coaching.

Posted by: PaulK2 | January 19, 2011 8:43 AM | Report abuse

It's a little bit funny...
Jason carried the Skins banner like a professional while he was here and according to his comments is still doing so now. He has not ripped the team for what he endured here. Endured I said. No matter what your opinion of him is, the Skins are in essentially in the same place organizationally as when he got here, near the bottom looking up.

The annual search for a QB continues. Now you can add O-line, RBs, WRs and D-line to that mix. I hope that Torrain, Armstrong and Banks become all-pro performers and soon. But rarely do teams make it to the top and stay there without pro bowl level players and the cupboard is bare.

What about the team's direction? The soap opera treatment of McNabb and Haynesworth is a reason to be concerned. Regardless of their performance levels, the Skins hung them out for public ridicule. If your highest profile players receive that type of treatment, who will want to come here. Concerned? Didn't Campbell get the same type of treatment in the off season last year.

Posted by: concerned13 | January 19, 2011 8:48 AM | Report abuse

I guess the team's mediocrity has even seeped into the discussions surrounding it...

Posted by: brownwood26 | January 19, 2011 8:29 AM

You're just now noticing this?

Posted by: mack1 | January 19, 2011 8:49 AM | Report abuse

Who cares what Jason Campbell thinks? It's called "Redskins Insider," not "Raiders Insider."

- Ray

Posted by: rmcazz | January 19, 2011 8:52 AM | Report abuse

"Sadly I don't see us going 10 n 6. I think 8 n 8 n that's with the ball bouncin our way a few times"

Posted by: brandon_in_cali | January 19, 2011 3:16 AM

I don't see the point in making predictions about next season until we know who's actually going to be on the team, i.e., until after the draft and free agency. Then we can make our ridiculous and wildly inaccurate predictions about next year's record.

Posted by: rufus_t_firefly | January 19, 2011 8:55 AM | Report abuse

Jason carried the Skins banner like a professional


Jason Campbell is profession--gets traded.

Albert Haynesworth is unprofessional--gets to stay on the team.

The difference?: 21 million, actually

Posted by: MistaMoe | January 19, 2011 8:55 AM | Report abuse

It's a little bit funny...
Jason carried the Skins banner like a professional while he was here and according to his comments is still doing so now. He has not ripped the team for what he endured here. Endured I said. No matter what your opinion of him is, the Skins are in essentially in the same place organizationally as when he got here, near the bottom looking up.

The annual search for a QB continues. Now you can add O-line, RBs, WRs and D-line to that mix. I hope that Torrain, Armstrong and Banks become all-pro performers and soon. But rarely do teams make it to the top and stay there without pro bowl level players and the cupboard is bare.

What about the team's direction? The soap opera treatment of McNabb and Haynesworth is a reason to be concerned. Regardless of their performance levels, the Skins hung them out for public ridicule. If your highest profile players receive that type of treatment, who will want to come here. Concerned? Didn't Campbell get the same type of treatment in the off season last year.

Posted by: concerned13 | January 19, 2011 8:48 AM
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The Haynesworth and McNabb "soap opera" was a product of players with bruised feelings and the media machine that needs to fan even the smallest spark in the hopes of making it a big flaming deal. Players get benched all of the time when they don't perform. Why does it have to be anything more than that?

Posted by: RedSkinHead | January 19, 2011 9:05 AM | Report abuse

rmcazz

Who cares what Jason Campbell thinks?


You are absolutely correct.

Campbell is a raider.

So why jawjack about him and his concerns?

Thing is, the modern NFL fan sees the quarterback in a way that defies commonsense.

NFL offenses used to be defined by Jim Brown or the Hawgs or Jerry Rice.

Today, no matter the quality of the defenses or overall offenses, football games are boiled down to a one-on-one battle of quarterback v. quarterback.

Watch the marketing of the upcoming games and you'll see what I mean.

We see the quarterback in terms much larger than what is his true perspective.

We attach hopes to them that no longer are fixed to the running back, wideout, or dominating o-line.

We see the quarterback as chief adn all other offensive parts assisting indians.

We ape about Campbell as McNabb didn't satisfy that perspective and Rex never will.

And until some new hero is under the redskin center, we'll look westward at Campbell and holla 'woulda, coulda, shudda'.

When, in fact, we all just need to move on from Jason Campbell--but won't.

Posted by: MistaMoe | January 19, 2011 9:11 AM | Report abuse

Who f'in cares about JC17?

What about BMW's blood clots?

Is Malcolm Kelly ever going to play?

Can Kevin Barnes add 10 pounds and maintain his speed so he can play free safety?

Who are the free agent linebackers that fit haslett's scheme?

Posted by: PAskinsfan17 | January 19, 2011 9:20 AM | Report abuse

Campbell was a decent QB for the Redskins - if you strive for average.

Can we focus on actual Redskin's coverage?

Posted by: clandestinetomcat | January 19, 2011 9:27 AM | Report abuse

"We should not worry about recievers right now. Nor should we worry about getting rid of Mcnabb. As we were all witness to this weekend, we saw what happened to the New England offense when the quarterback started taking hit after hit. If Mcnabb leaves after this season, it would mean another wasted 2nd and 4th round pick."

Posted by: jfoster1000 | January 19, 2011 4:05 AM

Those picks have already been wasted; Shannys Jr. and Sr. have made it abundantly clear that they don't want DM5 as the starter next season. They want a "system QB," i.e., one who will follow his progressions rather than go to a particular receiver because the QB thinks that he will be open in a given situation, and they want a guy whose mechanics they can mold. In other words, they don't want a veteran guy who has had success doing things his way for so long that he is unwilling or unable to change, as McNabb apparently is. And they have millions of reasons to "worry about getting rid of McNabb"; the 10 or 12 or however many millions of dollars in roster bonus that they will have to pay him if he is on the team next season. The Shannys obviously, and justifiably, believe that if you don't have a starting QB, you don't have anything. And, just as obviously, they don't believe they have their starter in McNabb. So, like it or not, I'm convinced that they will draft a QB this year. Where they draft him will depend on how they evaluate this year's crop of college QBs and on how highly they value Grossman.

Posted by: rufus_t_firefly | January 19, 2011 9:27 AM | Report abuse

Who f'in cares about JC17?

What about BMW's blood clots?

Is Malcolm Kelly ever going to play?

Can Kevin Barnes add 10 pounds and maintain his speed so he can play free safety?

Who are the free agent linebackers that fit haslett's scheme?

Posted by: PAskinsfan17 | January 19, 2011 9:20 AM
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I'd like to know the answers to those questions, too. Maybe PFT has something...

Posted by: RedSkinHead | January 19, 2011 9:31 AM | Report abuse

A little early to be making predictions for next season, but lets try this one:

0-0

Could be if the powers that be don't fix this thing soon.

Posted by: kerzon417 | January 19, 2011 9:31 AM | Report abuse


on a couch somewhere, with his lap-top were it belongs, jreid is relaxed and laughing his ass off at all the belly-aching his threads cause.

Posted by: hessone | January 19, 2011 9:34 AM | Report abuse

A little early to be making predictions for next season, but lets try this one:

0-0

Could be if the powers that be don't fix this thing soon.

Posted by: kerzon417 | January 19, 2011 9:31 AM | Report abuse

Maybe then we'll get away from PA's 24-20 predictions!

Posted by: monk811 | January 19, 2011 9:36 AM | Report abuse

But how does Demetric Evans feel about the harbaugh hiring???

Posted by: AdamCr | January 19, 2011 9:40 AM | Report abuse

Kevin Barnes had a 41 on the wonderlic and with his 6'1 frame he can easily pack on 10-15lbs and keep his speed. Hell he might even become faster (ie. Landry).

The Raiders got lucky and had an 8-8 season, this is not an up and coming team (losing their best player Asomugha). You'll see how much the Raiders "have his back" since he's only signed thru 2011....If he has a contract before the season then you'll have your answer.

That former Auburn QB had 50 starts to prove his mediocrity. He's not the answer and neither is that Eagle QB on our roster (for now). Move the F on..

Posted by: Diesel44 | January 19, 2011 9:41 AM | Report abuse

I could care less about Campbell. He's not on my team anymore and he sucked while he was here. I agree with rmcazz. This is supposed to be "Redskins Insider"!!!

Posted by: jerod1 | January 19, 2011 9:46 AM | Report abuse

(Day 6)

The topic of Jason Campbell always sparks some good discussions! Well played, Mr Reid.

Good to know Campbell is entrenched at the starting QB position and getting some love from his new owner and new coach. Always great to see Skins alumni doing well!

As for the current team, I expect Shanahan to fire up those genius neurons and show us all why he's a future HOF'er... I can't wait to see what he has in store for this team in the offseason to get us back on the winning track!

Posted by: Alan4 | January 19, 2011 9:46 AM | Report abuse

The Mayo hoist a mighty finger aloft. Just had to screw us yet again on the way out, eh?

And just what the SJK went on here for anyone to be sorry about?! We developed, grew and got better. Soup can suck it just like the Mayo.

Posted by: DikShuttle | January 19, 2011 9:52 AM | Report abuse

The Raiders got lucky and had an 8-8 season, this is not an up and coming team (losing their best player Asomugha). You'll see how much the Raiders "have his back" since he's only signed thru 2011....If he has a contract before the season then you'll have your answer.

Posted by: Diesel44 | January 19, 2011 9:41 AM | Report abuse

I completely disagree with you about the Raiders. They've been stockpiling young talent for years. They have a much younger and much better roster than we do. They are absolutely up and coming. They have a very young but talented offensive line and 2 great RBs. They have 1 playmaker at WR and a really good tight end. They could probably use another WR on offense but other than that they are solid on that side of the ball. I would look for them to bolster their defense in free agency and the draft. I think with an elite pass rusher they could be in the mix to win that division next year.

Posted by: PAskinsfan17 | January 19, 2011 10:01 AM | Report abuse

Your point had to do with whether the Skins QBs improved in 2010 on what Campbell provided in 2009.

And they did.

Campbell contributed to 4 wins.

These guys contributed to 6.

That's called improvement.

Posted by: p1funk | January 19, 2011 8:15 AM

(Day 6)

Improvement from an "F" to an "F+" is still improvement! Not sure why some people don't get it.

I'm pretty excited about what will happen next!

Posted by: Alan4 | January 19, 2011 10:05 AM | Report abuse

Who is this Jason Campbell dude, and why would anyone on a Redskins blog give a damn about anything he might have to say......

Posted by: Vic1 | January 19, 2011 7:45 AM

Jason Campbell was the 2005, first round pick 25 of the redskins, no matter what his deficiencies are, the main point is, he was treated without class by a classless organization, and that includes any poster that doesn't see anything wrong with that. Good enough answer for you? By the way, speak for yourself, your opinion is simply your opinion, and not the entire RI posters.

Posted by: abxinc | January 19, 2011 10:09 AM | Report abuse

Class?!@! Classs??!!!

That SJKhole threw just about everybody under the bus and NEVER took responsibility for his own shoddy play.

SJK him and his stoopid moniker. SJK Soup. Both of 'em. Campbell & Chunky.

Posted by: DikShuttle | January 19, 2011 10:14 AM | Report abuse

As for the current team, I expect Shanahan to fire up those genius neurons and show us all why he's a future HOF'er... I can't wait to see what he has in store for this team in the offseason to get us back on the winning track!

Posted by: Alan4 | January 19, 2011 9:46 AM | Report abuse

I truly believe Shanny and Co. have a plan, even though plans change when you don't get someone you want in the draft, and when someone comes available like McNabb. I don't blame him for doing that, no one could have predicted the year McNabb would have had. However, you make the mistake worse by letting pride get in the way and keeping him just to save face. He's man enough to admit when he's wrong and move on from there.

Lots of people on here think he is just 'winging it' and they don't have a plan for the future. It takes time to build a winner, and even more time to rebuild a talent lacking team full of dinosaurs like we are. I guess people are so used to switching coaches every 2 years or so that they don't have enough patience to just wait. Give the man a chance!

Posted by: monk811 | January 19, 2011 10:14 AM | Report abuse

Kevin Barnes had a 41 on the wonderlic and with his 6'1 frame he can easily pack on 10-15lbs and keep his speed. Hell he might even become faster (ie. Landry).

Posted by: Diesel44 | January 19, 2011 9:41 AM
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I'd like to see Barnes solidify his standing at free safety, but man, he has got to beef up. I'd like to see the coaches challenge Landry to lead the safeties in offseason work, effectively putting him in charge of their conditioning.

Posted by: RedSkinHead | January 19, 2011 10:15 AM | Report abuse

PAskinsfan

I completely disagree with you about the Raiders. They've been stockpiling young talent for years. They have a much younger and much better roster than we do.


Agreed.

Guys like Jacoby Ford, McFadden, R McClain are very good.

Z Miller is good when he's not hurt.

Hue Jackson has fashioned the offense to fit what Campbell does best: something no one ever did for him D.C..

Plus, the AFC West is as open as a hooker's gap.

Any team out there could wind up in the playoff next year.

Posted by: MistaMoe | January 19, 2011 10:20 AM | Report abuse

I'd like to see Barnes solidify his standing at free safety, but man, he has got to beef up. I'd like to see the coaches challenge Landry to lead the safeties in offseason work, effectively putting him in charge of their conditioning.

Posted by: RedSkinHead | January 19, 2011 10:15 AM | Report

You'd have to wonder if there would be enough steroids to go around. (I keed, I keed)

Posted by: scampbell1975 | January 19, 2011 10:20 AM | Report abuse

Posted by: PAskinsfan17 | January 19, 2011 10:01 AM

Oh and they don't have a first because they traded that for Richard Seymour who is a FA this YR.

McFadden finally proved he wasn't a bust but is injury prone (hurt again this YR). Michael Bush is a FA. Neither is "great".

Playmaker at WR? Leading receiver Louis Murphy led the team with 609 YDs and tied for the team lead with 2 TDs.

Their OL is average @ best. Veldheer, Gallery, Satele (FA), Carlisle, Walker

Zach Miller couldn't carry Cooley's jock.

They've "looked good on paper" for years and they won't be .500 next year...

F the Raiders

Posted by: Diesel44 | January 19, 2011 10:20 AM | Report abuse

Yes! Barnes at FS.

What the SJK is wrong with all the tards' asking for Champ Bailey to come back and play FS?

Practice squad guys were the stars this year, and that's how it should be.

Young, hungry, late-round draft picks doing it. Torain, Armstrong, Banks, Williams etc...

Yeah, yeah and if you want to split hairs and say who was an undrafted free agent, whateves...cram it.

We're finally seeing a team built the right way, so enjoy it.

This is what the good teams do.

Posted by: iH8dallas | January 19, 2011 10:23 AM | Report abuse

I'd like to see Barnes solidify his standing at free safety, but man, he has got to beef up. I'd like to see the coaches challenge Landry to lead the safeties in offseason work, effectively putting him in charge of their conditioning.

Posted by: RedSkinHead | January 19, 2011 10:15 AM | Report

You'd have to wonder if there would be enough steroids to go around. (I keed, I keed)

Posted by: scampbell1975 | January 19, 2011 10:20 AM
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Step into the 21st century, Scamp. The new rage is HGH, but no one in the NFL uses it (wink, wink...). I repeat, no one in the NFL uses HGH (snicker).

Posted by: RedSkinHead | January 19, 2011 10:26 AM | Report abuse

The new rage is HGH

Posted by: RedSkinHead | January 19, 2011 10:26 AM

Yea, but HGH rage just doesn't have the same ring to it.

Posted by: scampbell1975 | January 19, 2011 10:31 AM | Report abuse

... I don't blame him for doing that, no one could have predicted the year McNabb would have had...

Posted by: monk811 | January 19, 2011 10:14 AM

(Day 6)

Actually, back when I was a real Negative Nellie, I immediately predicted McNabb would not do any better than Campbell. I thought Campbell did pretty well last year with limited support (Portis out, Cooley out, terrible O-line, and weakness at WR last year).

Based on my amateur observations, I thought Campbell and McNabb were roughly equal at that juncture of their careers, with Campbell on an improving slope and McNabb on a declining slope. A lot of people on this board thought I was out of my mind!

I didn't believe QB was the weak position on the team, and that there were other areas required more immediate fixing.

But that was then and this is now. I'm putting my doubts aside and putting my faith in Coach Shanahan!

Like you, I look forward to seeing Shanahan's plan take full effect, and he deserves time to implement it!

Posted by: Alan4 | January 19, 2011 10:32 AM | Report abuse

Who f'in cares about JC17?

What about BMW's blood clots?

Is Malcolm Kelly ever going to play?

Can Kevin Barnes add 10 pounds and maintain his speed so he can play free safety?

Who are the free agent linebackers that fit haslett's scheme?

Posted by: PAskinsfan17 | January 19, 2011 9:20 AM
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I'd like to know the answers to those questions, too. Maybe PFT has something...

Posted by: RedSkinHead | January 19, 2011 9:31 AM | Report abuse


I third this motion

Posted by: Devo2 | January 19, 2011 10:34 AM | Report abuse

Posted by: Diesel44 | January 19, 2011 10:20 AM | Report abuse

Seymour can and probably will be resigned.

McFadden completely took over several games this year. Saying he isn't great is just denial or being a hater.

The playmaker at WR is Jacoby Ford but you wouldn't know that because you've obviously haven't watched this team play.

The OL is average with a rookie LT and will only be better next year after they replace their center and RG. Those replacements are already on the roster.

Zach Miller had more TDs than Cooley and less fumbles.

Posted by: PAskinsfan17 | January 19, 2011 10:43 AM | Report abuse

Senior Bowl?

Senior Bowl?

Wherefore art thou, Senior Bowl?

Next week the NFL Network will have Senior Bowl practices and workouts.

Real football jugheads should review lists of the players they like, and watch the practices.

Otherwise, until the end of Super Bowl week, there is no news.

Deal with it!


Posted by: MistaMoe | January 19, 2011 10:49 AM | Report abuse

The new rage is HGH

Posted by: RedSkinHead | January 19, 2011 10:26 AM

Yea, but HGH rage just doesn't have the same ring to it.

Posted by: scampbell1975 | January 19, 2011 10:31 AM
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The thing I don't get is this. It is called human growth hormone, right? I get this picture in my mind that somewhere there is this human growth hormone milking machine out there where they're getting the hormones from humans. And, God forbid, what if you got PeeWee Herman's hormones by accident? You could start shrinking. Maybe you would even feel a compulsion to slap the salami in movie theaters and start wearing bow ties. I mean, and how do they give you HGH? Injection? Shoot, what if it localizes? They could give you an injection in your butt and you could wake up next morning with a butt as out there as Serena Williams'. That stuff scares me.

Posted by: RedSkinHead | January 19, 2011 10:53 AM | Report abuse

The OL is average with a rookie LT and will only be better next year after they replace their center and RG. Those replacements are already on the roster.

Posted by: PAskinsfan17 | January 19, 2011 10:43 AM

And who replaces the FA they will be losing? Gallery probably walks with Cable to the 'hawks.

Many of these FAs have been on one of the worst teams over the last 6 years and have watched Al do his thing. Don't count on many staying.

The Raiders will not be a .500 team next year.

Posted by: kerzon417 | January 19, 2011 10:54 AM | Report abuse

I'd like to see Barnes solidify his standing at free safety, but man, he has got to beef up. I'd like to see the coaches challenge Landry to lead the safeties in offseason work, effectively putting him in charge of their conditioning.

Posted by: RedSkinHead | January 19, 2011 10:15 AM | Report abuse

Landry's body broke down after a third of the season, do we really want him sharing his approach with other players.

Landry has always been a work out warrior, but this year he looked kind of rediculous. His muscles were so pumped he looked like a cartoon chariacture. More like a body builder than a football player.

If Barnes is to move to FS he will need to put on 10-20lbs of muscle, but he shouldn't do that at the expense of losing flexibility and suppleness he will need to stay healthy. Personally, I'd rather see them spend the off-season preparing him to start as one of our corners. I'd rather find a genuine FS through FA or the draft.

That said, I'd not be disappointed if we could sign Champ Bailey and give him a shot at FS but only if he comes at a reasonable price. He'd have to put on more muscle as well, but not as much as Barnes. If he accepts a contract offer for the average veteran FS, fine. If he expects to be paid like an elite corner then we shouldn't touch him. Thoug, somehow I cannot see him coming cheap, but may be he would consider following Shanahan to Washington.

Posted by: WeNeedLinemen | January 19, 2011 10:54 AM | Report abuse

pa, you're missing the point on Seymour...if he's not resigned, and there is a pretty good chance he wont be, thats a 2 year rental at the cost of a top 20 first round draft pick....thats not good business...

Posted by: BeantownGreg1 | January 19, 2011 10:57 AM | Report abuse

If JC thinks he's finally playing for an organization that "handles its business" than he's even dumber than I thought.

Firing Tom Cable after the Raiders went 8-8 and 6-0 in the AFC West only underscores that Al Davis is every bit as dysfunctional as Dan Synder was until the Allen/Shanahan hiring.

I'd like to wish Hue Jackson well, but how can he do anything when he has no real authority? The Raiders HC job has to be the worst gig in the league, at least until Al Davis finally dies or - more likely - is committed to a sanitarium.

Posted by: MrRedskin21 | January 19, 2011 11:02 AM | Report abuse

Many of these FAs have been on one of the worst teams over the last 6 years and have watched Al do his thing. Don't count on many staying.


I dunno.

Teams with poor attitudes 'lay down' as the season concludes.

The raiders went to KC and whupped them with playoff style passion.

They sure didn't look like a sub .500 team that was undefeated in their division to me.

You guys need to spent some time checking out the entire league and not just the redskins.


Posted by: MistaMoe | January 19, 2011 11:03 AM | Report abuse

pa, you're missing the point on Seymour...if he's not resigned, and there is a pretty good chance he wont be, thats a 2 year rental at the cost of a top 20 first round draft pick....thats not good business...

Posted by: BeantownGreg1 | January 19, 2011 10:57 AM | Report abuse

I think you're missing the point. They don't need to do good business. They just need to do better business than everyone else in that crapfest of a division.

Posted by: PAskinsfan17 | January 19, 2011 11:03 AM | Report abuse

DHall blockbuster trade, anyone?

If Deangelo played for the Eagles and they desparately needed draft picks in a rebuilding phase like the Skins... Andy Reid would be shopping him, ala McNabb in 2010.
DHall's stock will never be higher and we know he is overrated. The confluence of one great game and one really bad game by Cutler and he gets in the Pro-Bowl.

Some compulsive Owner may just trade 2 high picks for him...like our compulsive Owner did for McNabb.

Posted by: onanygivensunday | January 19, 2011 11:05 AM | Report abuse

The thing I don't get is this. It is called human growth hormone, right? I get this picture in my mind that somewhere there is this human growth hormone milking machine out there where they're getting the hormones from humans. And, God forbid, what if you got PeeWee Herman's hormones by accident? You could start shrinking. Maybe you would even feel a compulsion to slap the salami in movie theaters and start wearing bow ties. I mean, and how do they give you HGH? Injection? Shoot, what if it localizes? They could give you an injection in your butt and you could wake up next morning with a butt as out there as Serena Williams'. That stuff scares me.

Posted by: RedSkinHead | January 19, 2011 10:53 AM | Report abuse

LOL. You've obviously given this a lot of thought, RSH. I guess this is how the ads that I get every day offer to add 4" to your Johnson. Boy, that injection must be painful.

Posted by: frediefritz | January 19, 2011 11:05 AM | Report abuse

I'm now sorry I said anything.....thats not...um..yeah, nevermind...

Posted by: BeantownGreg1 | January 19, 2011 11:09 AM | Report abuse

WeNeedLinemen,
Landry is an intense player and he has carried that intensity to the weight room. Maybe he needs to spend a littl more time on flexibility but he was an intimidator out there this year and I would like to see Barnes, Moore, Horton and Doughty catch some of that. It starts in the weight room.

I agree with you on Bailey, but I can't see him going anywhere for a lot less than he is making now. He is still a very good football player - and he knows it.

Posted by: RedSkinHead | January 19, 2011 11:09 AM | Report abuse

Teams with poor attitudes 'lay down' as the season concludes.

The raiders went to KC and whupped them with playoff style passion.

They sure didn't look like a sub .500 team that was undefeated in their division to me.

You guys need to spent some time checking out the entire league and not just the redskins.


Posted by: MistaMoe | January 19, 2011 11:03 AM

Question is, did they play that way for Cable or Jackson? Or Al Davis?

That is why Cable should not have been fired and why that club is every bit as dysfunctional as the Skins.

And I watch plenty of other teams play, including the Raiders. Enough to know that many on here give JC WAY too much credit for the five wins he as the starter for.

Posted by: kerzon417 | January 19, 2011 11:11 AM | Report abuse

Posted by: learnedhand1 | January 19, 2011 11:14 AM | Report abuse

fwiw, Sween, there are guys who play one side well and suck on the other. I've told the Chris Doleman in SF story on this. It was night and day. He sucked on one side and was a beast on the other.

Posted by: zcezcest1 | January 19, 2011 1:00 AM

Alfred Williams, former DE for the Broncos, has said the same thing about some guys being good on one side but struggling on the other.

Posted by: skinswest | January 19, 2011 11:17 AM | Report abuse

LOL. You've obviously given this a lot of thought, RSH. I guess this is how the ads that I get every day offer to add 4" to your Johnson. Boy, that injection must be painful.

Posted by: frediefritz | January 19, 2011 11:05 AM
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I lie awake at night thinking about the HGH fairies sneaking in and shooting me up with PAskinsfan17's HGH. I would wake up the next morning with the uncontrollable urge to whine abou JC being traded...

Posted by: RedSkinHead | January 19, 2011 11:18 AM | Report abuse

Question is, did they play that way for Cable or Jackson? Or Al Davis?

That is why Cable should not have been fired and why that club is every bit as dysfunctional as the Skins.

And I watch plenty of other teams play, including the Raiders. Enough to know that many on here give JC WAY too much credit for the five wins he as the starter for.

Posted by: kerzon417 | January 19, 2011 11:11 AM

Team scoring doubled, and it coincided with the arrival of Skins alum Jackson and Campbell (HTTR!)--not Cable.

As far as who gives credit to Campbell, the only opinons that really matter are Al Davis' and Coach Jackson's:


Jason Campbell overcame a bad start and a couple of benchings to solidify the Raiders at quarterback. He completed 64.7 percent of his passes over the final five games with six touchdowns, two interceptions and a passer rating of 96.4.

Davis stood by his preseason Jim Plunkett comparison, saying that Jackson is the coach to get Campbell to the next level. Jackson said Campbell may already be there based on his late-season success.

"He played flawless," Jackson said. "He played almost as good as you can play as a quarterback in our league. Led us to some very impressive wins. And I look forward to him doing the same thing this year in our system, same system, opportunity to go out with the same teammates, OK, and go out and play the way we know he can play."

Read more: http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2011/01/18/SPJS1HBBF8.DTL#ixzz1BUy1yxpH

Posted by: Alan4 | January 19, 2011 11:19 AM | Report abuse

you're missing the point on Seymour...if he's not resigned, and there is a pretty good chance he won't be

You have to hope the redskins don't pursue Seymour.

We need to draft a defender, not depend on an older player.

Posted by: MistaMoe | January 19, 2011 11:19 AM | Report abuse

Seymour can and probably will be resigned.

McFadden completely took over several games this year. Saying he isn't great is just denial or being a hater.

The playmaker at WR is Jacoby Ford but you wouldn't know that because you've obviously haven't watched this team play.

The OL is average with a rookie LT and will only be better next year after they replace their center and RG. Those replacements are already on the roster.

Zach Miller had more TDs than Cooley and less fumbles.

Posted by: PAskinsfan17 | January 19, 2011 10:43 AM

GTFO...Seriously-

I was talking Jacoby Ford from Clemson last YR for us in draft and the Raiders got him the 4th. Playmakers have more than 2 TDs.

McFadden has beed a bust until this YR and hasn't played a full YR yet. Calling him "great" is foolish after ONE YR.

Zach Miller is not Chris Cooley and WHY would Seymour come back. He didn't want to go in the first place but manned up and showed up.

Take your pabrain Raider love to Raiders Insider.

Posted by: Diesel44 | January 19, 2011 11:20 AM | Report abuse

Some compulsive Owner may just trade 2 high picks for him...like our compulsive Owner did for McNabb.

Posted by: onanygivensunday | January 19, 2011 11:05 AM | Report abuse

I'd love to be on the right side of one of those lopsided deals for once.

I'd also like to see us go around and sign some of the top free agents, give them most of their guarenteed money in their first year, then trade them along with their cap friendly contracts for draft picks. It's essentially buying draft picks. I'd like us to stock up on 2012 draft picks. I think there's going to be a lot more talent in that draft and besides if we have enough ammo we may be able to swing a deal for Andrew Luck.

Posted by: PAskinsfan17 | January 19, 2011 11:23 AM | Report abuse

I lie awake at night thinking about the HGH fairies sneaking in and shooting me up with PAskinsfan17's HGH. I would wake up the next morning with the uncontrollable urge to whine abou JC being traded...

Posted by: RedSkinHead | January 19, 2011 11:18 AM |

And an extremely small, shriveled husk of a penis.

Posted by: scampbell1975 | January 19, 2011 11:26 AM | Report abuse

I lie awake at night thinking about the HGH fairies sneaking in and shooting me up with PAskinsfan17's HGH. I would wake up the next morning with the uncontrollable urge to whine abou JC being traded...

Posted by: RedSkinHead | January 19, 2011 11:18 AM | Report abuse

If you want any of my HGH you can find it in your mom's buttcrack.

Posted by: PAskinsfan17 | January 19, 2011 11:27 AM | Report abuse

I was talking Jacoby Ford


I used to talk to Devin Hester, Vince Wilfolk, Jacoby Ford, Deonte Thompson, Brandon Flowers, Santonio Holmes, Antoine Smith, Travis Benjiman, and a bunch of other dudes at the Palm Beach County Track and Field Championships.

And now, none of them will talk to me.

Posted by: MistaMoe | January 19, 2011 11:27 AM | Report abuse

In 2010, the Raiders ranked 2nd in rushing offense. Soup was 18th out of 32 in passer rating.

Posted by: Realness1 | January 19, 2011 11:29 AM | Report abuse

That stuff scares me.

Posted by: RedSkinHead | January 19, 2011 10:53 AM | Report abuse

Yeah, but you could get lucky and get a schlong like Long Dong Silver!

Posted by: monk811 | January 19, 2011 11:29 AM | Report abuse

Some compulsive Owner may just trade 2 high picks for him...like our compulsive Owner did for McNabb.

Posted by: onanygivensunday | January 19, 2011 11:05 AM


Um, surely you see the difference between dealing for a 6-time Pro-Bowl QB and a brash CB who made the rare feat of playing for 3 teams in less than a year. The only other owner that would make that move is Al Davis...and in case you haven't noticed, he's the last guy to quit on DHall.

I swear...some people need to just play Madden and leave REAL football alone...

Posted by: brownwood26 | January 19, 2011 11:32 AM | Report abuse

I lie awake at night thinking about the HGH fairies sneaking in and shooting me up with PAskinsfan17's HGH. I would wake up the next morning with the uncontrollable urge to whine abou JC being traded...

Posted by: RedSkinHead | January 19, 2011 11:18 AM | Report abuse

If you want any of my HGH you can find it in your mom's buttcrack.

Posted by: PAskinsfan17 | January 19, 2011 11:27 AM
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Necrofiliac, are you?

Posted by: RedSkinHead | January 19, 2011 11:33 AM | Report abuse

Why all of the JC bashing. He was not a great QB but he wasn't god awful either. I mean really? How was the Skins QB play this year? Not any better. There are like 75-80 or so guys getting paid to play QB in the NFL if you count 2nd and 3rd string. Of that 80 there are maybe 10 that can be called great or franchise QB's. Maybe not even that many. While it would be great to have one of those on your team there are other ways to win. I think the best hope or chance for any team is to follow what the Ravens and Jets have done. Build enough talent so you only need a decent not great QB to manage a game for you. It's a lot easier to draft and find good OL, DL, LB etc than it is to find that franchise QB. If you're pinning your hopes on landing that dream franchise guy to make you a winner it will probably be a long wait.

Posted by: renhoekk2 | January 19, 2011 11:33 AM | Report abuse

That stuff scares me.

Posted by: RedSkinHead | January 19, 2011 10:53 AM | Report abuse

Yeah, but you could get lucky and get a schlong like Long Dong Silver!

Posted by: monk811 | January 19, 2011 11:29 AM
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Shoot, if any of that stuff worked like that Levi's would be coming out with a line of three legged Dockers...

Posted by: RedSkinHead | January 19, 2011 11:35 AM | Report abuse

If you want any of my HGH you can find it in your mom's buttcrack.

Posted by: PAskinsfan17 | January 19, 2011 11:27 AM |

It's always in the last place you think to look.

Posted by: MColeman51 | January 19, 2011 11:36 AM | Report abuse

Necrofiliac, are you?

Posted by: RedSkinHead | January 19, 2011 11:33 AM | Report abuse

Don't knock it till you tried it. BTW, I wasn't even talking about soup. I think the only thing I said about soup was who f'ing cares about soup. I think you have me confused with peabrain.

Posted by: PAskinsfan17 | January 19, 2011 11:39 AM | Report abuse

you're missing the point on Seymour...if he's not resigned, and there is a pretty good chance he won't be


You have to hope the redskins don't pursue Seymour.

We need to draft a defender, not depend on an older player.

Posted by: MistaMoe | January 19, 2011 11:19 AM | Report abuse

There is nothing wrong with veteran leadership, and we don't have enough draft picks to take care of all our needs. So if we get a NT in the draft and maybe one DE, we'd still need another one. We're gonna clean house again this offseason and as long as we don't get too many older players, I wouldn't have a problem with Seymour coming in, we need some beef up front. It's looking like Daniels and Holliday won't be back so he could teach the younguns!

Posted by: monk811 | January 19, 2011 11:40 AM | Report abuse

Necrofiliac, are you?

Posted by: RedSkinHead | January 19, 2011 11:33 AM | Report abuse

Don't knock it till you tried it. BTW, I wasn't even talking about soup. I think the only thing I said about soup was who f'ing cares about soup. I think you have me confused with peabrain.

Posted by: PAskinsfan17 | January 19, 2011 11:39 AM
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Okay, sorry for bashing you about Jason Campbell whining and your necrophilia.

Posted by: RedSkinHead | January 19, 2011 11:41 AM | Report abuse

Shoot, if any of that stuff worked like that Levi's would be coming out with a line of three legged Dockers...

Posted by: RedSkinHead | January 19, 2011 11:35 AM | Report abuse

Shoot, in that case you'd probably have to change your name to 'The Tripod'!

Posted by: monk811 | January 19, 2011 11:44 AM | Report abuse

Posted by: monk811 | January 19, 2011 11:40 AM | Report abuse

I'd sign Seymour as long as he promises to slap tom brady down like he did big ben. That was so funny I think I broke the rewind button.

Posted by: PAskinsfan17 | January 19, 2011 11:47 AM | Report abuse

monk811

We're gonna clean house again this offseason....


Gotta question:

Do the issues related to the CBA effect when teams choose to 'clean house'?

Would you relase players if, say, there's no new contract as of March 4th?

Will FA come after the draft: and is that a better option?

Posted by: MistaMoe | January 19, 2011 11:49 AM | Report abuse

I'd also like to see us go around and sign some of the top free agents, give them most of their guarenteed money in their first year, then trade them along with their cap friendly contracts for draft picks. It's essentially buying draft picks.

Vinny, is that you?

Posted by: wireman65 | January 19, 2011 11:50 AM | Report abuse

I'd also like to see us go around and sign some of the top free agents, give them most of their guarenteed money in their first year, then trade them along with their cap friendly contracts for draft picks. It's essentially buying draft picks.

Vinny, is that you?

Posted by: wireman65 | January 19, 2011 11:50 AM | Report abuse

That's the complete opposite of what Vinny does.

Posted by: PAskinsfan17 | January 19, 2011 11:55 AM | Report abuse

Maybe then we'll get away from PA's 24-20 predictions!

Posted by: monk811 | January 19, 2011 9:36 AM

What's wrong with my predictions?

Why is JReid still here?

How did beep-beep's proposed RI postless monday work out?

I'm hungry.

Posted by: PlayAction | January 19, 2011 11:56 AM | Report abuse

I'd also like to see us go around and sign some of the top free agents, give them most of their guarenteed money in their first year, then trade them along with their cap friendly contracts for draft picks. It's essentially buying draft picks.


Actually, the system that works best is when you draft some low round, unknown kid, train him up to a starter that folks covet, then move him for picks as he still has upside.

Somebody else's vet Pro Bowler never has upside--dudes like that only have attitude.

Take AH, for example......

Posted by: MistaMoe | January 19, 2011 11:56 AM | Report abuse

Going from Campbell to Mcnabb to Grossman is like going from a plain hamburger, to a cheeseburger, to just the bun and condiments.

Posted by: FedorEm | January 19, 2011 11:58 AM | Report abuse

Going from Campbell to Mcnabb to Grossman is like going from a plain hamburger, to a cheeseburger, to just the bun and condiments.

Posted by: FedorEm | January 19, 2011 11:58 AM

Now I'm really hungry.

Posted by: PlayAction | January 19, 2011 12:00 PM | Report abuse

Going from Campbell to Mcnabb to Grossman is like going from a plain hamburger, to a cheeseburger, to just the bun and condiments.

Posted by: FedorEm | January 19, 2011 11:58 AM

It must be lunchtime.

Posted by: Alan4 | January 19, 2011 12:01 PM | Report abuse

Going from Campbell to Mcnabb to Grossman is like going from a plain hamburger, to a cheeseburger, to just the bun and condiments.

Posted by: FedorEm | January 19, 2011 11:58 AM

It must be lunchtime.


Posted by: Alan4 | January 19, 2011 12:01 PM | Report abuse

It is indeed!

Posted by: FedorEm | January 19, 2011 12:10 PM | Report abuse

It must be lunchtime.


Today I'm eating mrsmoe.

Yummy.

Posted by: MistaMoe | January 19, 2011 12:13 PM | Report abuse

Again, I was correct in a post from last year where I said that JC would have a better season in Oaktown .... it is t he Washington sports mystique now.... Talented players leave and do better for other teams. JC got a raw deal because we are always blaming the QB in this town. Watch and mark my words... D-Nabb will move on and put up better numbers and be in the playoffs... mark it! 4 teams possible... Zona, Miami, Vikes or 49ers!

Posted by: rvanags | January 19, 2011 12:13 PM | Report abuse

Day 6)

... to get us back on the winning track!

Posted by: Alan4 | January 19, 2011 9:46 AM

These never get old ... hilarious ... and creepy, but still, never gets old. Alan4 as the bizarro Alan4 rulz.

Posted by: dcsween | January 19, 2011 12:26 PM | Report abuse


Gotta question:

Do the issues related to the CBA effect when teams choose to 'clean house'?

Would you relase players if, say, there's no new contract as of March 4th?

Will FA come after the draft: and is that a better option?

Posted by: MistaMoe | January 19, 2011 11:49 AM

Technically, that's three questions ... but I think that the last part of the three part question might have answer. Back in a few.

Posted by: dcsween | January 19, 2011 12:32 PM | Report abuse

Maybe then we'll get away from PA's 24-20 predictions!

Posted by: monk811 | January 19, 2011 9:36 AM

What's wrong with my predictions?

Why is JReid still here?

How did beep-beep's proposed RI postless monday work out?

I'm hungry.

Posted by: PlayAction | January 19, 2011 11:56 AM | Report abuse

It worked out good for everyone else, he didn't show up. I don't think he's too bright though, he must think the holiday is 3 days long. It has been really peaceful and quiet without him!

Reid is nowhere to be found when you need him, but when you expect him to leave he sticks around, go figure!

Sorry, didn't mean to bust on your predictions, at least you're consistant!

Posted by: monk811 | January 19, 2011 12:37 PM | Report abuse

Not sure whether the NFL has a plan for free agency yet ...

Feb. 23-March 1 -- NFL Scouting Combine, Indianapolis, Ind.

April 28-30 -- NFL Draft, New York City.

Aug. 6 -- Pro Football Hall of Fame, Class of 2011 Enshrinement, Canton, Ohio.

Posted by: dcsween | January 19, 2011 12:37 PM | Report abuse

jcamp looked like peyton compared to brunabb this season. what a debacle...

Posted by: PaulK2 | January 19, 2011 12:40 PM | Report abuse

Jan 18: Deadline for underclassmen to withdraw application for early entry to NFL draft

Jan 18 Owners' CBA Meeting

Jan 22: 86th East-West College All-Star Game, Florida Citrus Bowl, Orlando, FL

Jan 23: NFC Conference Championship Game, 1:00 PM EST

Jan 23: AFC Conference Championship Game, 4:30 PM EST

Jan 29: Senior Bowl, Ladd-Peebles Stadium, Mobile, AL ... Coaching Staffs: Buffalo Bills and Cincinnati Bengals

Jan 30: 41st AFC-NFC Pro Bowl Game, Aloha Stadium, Honolulu, HI, 7 PM EST

*Feb 1: Beginning of period (or not) in which teams can designate ONE transition player

Feb 5: Hall of Fame Selection Committee meeting

Feb 6: Super Bowl XLV, 4:30 PM EST, Dallas Cowboys Stadium, Arlington, TX

*Feb 7: Waiver system begins (or not) for 2011. Players with at least four accrued seasons are no longer subject to the waiver system.

*Feb 15: Deadline (or not) for designating ONE transition player

Feb 15 Owners' CBA Meeting

Feb 23: NFL Scouting Combine, Lucas Oil Stadium, Indianapolis, IN

Mar 1: Conclusion of NFL Scouting Combine, Indianapolis, IN

Mar 1 - 3: Owners' CBA Meeting

Mar 3: Current Collective Bargaining Agreement expires

*Mar 3: Deadline (or not) for submission of qualifying offers by clubs to
- retain a right of first refusal/compensation to their restricted free agents whose contracts have expired (4:00 PM EST)
- retain exclusive negotiating rights to their players with fewer than three accrued seasons whose contracts have expired (4:00 PM EST)

*Mar 4: New League Year starts (or not), this would include:
- Beginning of free-agent signing period (12:01 AM EST)
- Beginning of trade period (12:01 AM EST)

Posted by: dcsween | January 19, 2011 12:47 PM | Report abuse

Today I'm eating mrsmoe.

Yummy.

Posted by: MistaMoe | January 19, 2011 12:13 PM | Report abuse

Yum, a rare fur burger, you lucky dog!

Posted by: monk811 | January 19, 2011 12:52 PM | Report abuse

It has been really peaceful and quiet without him!

Posted by: monk811 | January 19, 2011 12:37 PM

That and Alan4's newfound, albeit temporary optimism has this joints delicate balance all f'ed up...I think you need to up your schtick ratio monk...big time.

Posted by: PlayAction | January 19, 2011 12:58 PM | Report abuse

... I've told the Chris Doleman in SF story on this. It was night and day. He sucked on one side and was a beast on the other.

Great athletes can be put in spots where they don't use their skills at max effectiveness. That's where I see Orakpo in this 3-4.

Posted by: zcezcest1 | January 19, 2011 1:00 AM

So essentially, Brian Orakpo is more like Derek Zoolander (NOT an ambiturner) than Adalius Thomas.

Posted by: dcsween

Huh? Certain people, maybe most people, do better when they focus on certain things. I'm sure you see it in your own world.

To me, Orakpo is strongest at DE, the OLB part takes away from his game. Doesn't make him a bad OLB. Just less impact than he'd have as a DE. As for a comparison, I compared Orakpo to osi and John Abraham, which is probably a fairer comparison than Zoolander (though I didn't see the movie).

fwiw, Orakpo seems really effective at both LDE and RDE. He doesn't seem as effective at pass coverage.

Posted by: zcezcest1 | January 19, 2011 12:59 PM | Report abuse

As for the Raiders, they are an interesting bunch. They improved a ton in 2010. In 2009, they won 5 games but all 5 wins were close and they got blown out a bunch. The point differential was 3rd worst -- ahead of only StL and DET, who were 3-29 combined.

So this year, they go .500, with a positive point differential. A swing of over 200 points in that stat.

But they are run by a nutcase and its hard to tell how many of their potential free agents will flee.

There is a lot good going on in OAK -- and a lot bad.

Posted by: zcezcest1 | January 19, 2011 1:12 PM | Report abuse

I think you need to up your schtick ratio monk...big time.

Posted by: PlayAction | January 19, 2011 12:58 PM | Report abuse

My ratio is up, we need to brainwash, I mean recruit more members.

Posted by: monk811 | January 19, 2011 1:30 PM | Report abuse

As for the Raiders, they are an interesting bunch. They improved a ton in 2010. In 2009, they won 5 games but all 5 wins were close and they got blown out a bunch. The point differential was 3rd worst -- ahead of only StL and DET, who were 3-29 combined.

So this year, they go .500, with a positive point differential. A swing of over 200 points in that stat.

But they are run by a nutcase and its hard to tell how many of their potential free agents will flee.

There is a lot good going on in OAK -- and a lot bad.

Posted by: zcezcest1 | January 19, 2011 1:12 PM
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No matter how hard they try, they're still Oakland. I just read some of the press conference notes and what a zoo. How can any player thrive in that environment? The owner, as you pointed out, is a nut case. The coach came in as "the owner's guy" and talk about hamstringing the previous coach... Now, Hue Jackson is throwing out Al Saunders' name as a potential offensive coordinator, but one wonders if even Al Saunders wants to coach that badly. They, incidentally, still don't have a defensive coordinator, and promotion from within might be the best option because there are few that want to go to the Oakland zoo.

Posted by: RedSkinHead | January 19, 2011 1:33 PM | Report abuse

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
AHAHAHAHAHAHAH

AHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH

Mel Kiper just had us taking Cam Newton in his "mock draft"

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHHAA
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHA

Ah, why am I laughing? I can see these fcuking morons taking Newton too.

Posted by: P00PY_MCP00P | January 19, 2011 1:40 PM | Report abuse

Steinbog, with an intro to his blog about Ryan Clark comparing the Steelers to the Skins, specifically about why he posted it:

" ... 3) There is no greater media service to the world than interviewing ex-Redskins about the Redskins. ..."

[The interesting part was Clark saying that the business plan they are working is to win games and keep the home town working class fans happy ... compared to the plan in DC where everybody has so much going on that the business model is make the game day experience flashy and fill the seats.]

Posted by: dcsween | January 19, 2011 1:41 PM | Report abuse

Saw Lowell Cohn, an older reporter for a local paper that covers the Raiders. He said:

If they offered my a Nobel Prize for literature on the condition that I had to stop covering the Raiders -- I'd turn it down.

From a reporter's perspective, there is nothing more fun than seeing what bizarre thing Al Davis will do next.

Posted by: zcezcest1 | January 19, 2011 1:43 PM | Report abuse


I'm pretty excited about what will happen next!

Posted by: Alan4 | January 19, 2011 10:05 AM |
----

just like the beggining of last year, and the year before that, and the...

Posted by: hessone | January 19, 2011 1:43 PM | Report abuse


this from ryan clark:

"I think in Washington you just have so much going on. You have such an organization built on putting people in the seats and finding extravagant ways to do things, instead of winning football games all the time.
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sound familiar ?

Posted by: hessone | January 19, 2011 1:50 PM | Report abuse

Mel Kiper just had us taking Cam Newton in his "mock draft"

Best NFL Draft Guru:

pick'em

a. Mel Kiper

b. Todd McShay

c. Mike Mayock

d. RI Blog Owner

e. stoner tossing darts at a draft board.

Moe rolls with 'e' as a stoner tossing darts at a draft board has about the same success rate as Kiper, McShay, and Mayock.

Thing is, Mayock is the one who projects how a player will fit into a team's overall system better which is why I aim my darts based on what he says.

Posted by: MistaMoe | January 19, 2011 1:51 PM | Report abuse

A million different interesting things to write about the Redskins, and we get a boring fluff piece about the Raiders. Yay.

Posted by: cali_snowboarder | January 19, 2011 1:54 PM | Report abuse

"I like to pet soft things...."

Lennie Small, famous idiot

Posted by: MistaMoe | January 19, 2011 2:02 PM | Report abuse

Is Mayock the one who writes for the NFL network? Which one is the one who does sword fights in the snow with Kiper? I'm with the one on the NFL network and not the one with Kiper.

Posted by: dcsween | January 19, 2011 2:02 PM | Report abuse

this from ryan clark:

"I think in Washington you just have so much going on. You have such an organization built on putting people in the seats and finding extravagant ways to do things, instead of winning football games all the time.
---------

sound familiar ?

Posted by: hessone |

The irony in this? Skins fans, for decades, are really blue collar sorts. How many teams have fans that love their OL the way Skins fans love the Hogs?

Posted by: zcezcest1 | January 19, 2011 2:05 PM | Report abuse

Posted by: MistaMoe | January 19, 2011 1:51 PM | Report abuse

Mel Kiper-Blows a lot of coke and is almost always wrong. How he still has a job is beyond me.

McShay- Typically gets into a sissy slap fight with Kiper but seems to be a tiny bit more accurate.

Mayock-actually knows what he's talking about and in my opinion is the only one worth watching unless you like sissy girl slap fights.

Posted by: PAskinsfan17 | January 19, 2011 2:08 PM | Report abuse

"I like to pet soft things...."

Lennie Small, famous idiot

Posted by: MistaMoe | January 19, 2011 2:02 PM
-----------------------------------------
"Don't sweat the petty stuff, pet the sweaty stuff." - Haven't a clue where that came from.

Posted by: RedSkinHead | January 19, 2011 2:12 PM | Report abuse

Mel Kiper just had us taking Cam Newton in his "mock draft"

Posted by: P00PY_MCP00P | January 19, 2011 1:40 PM

Unlikely, Mr McPoop.

Kiper had us taking Sam Bradford at #4 at this point in his mocks from last year.

The thing is, Coach Shanahan prefers veteran QBs and Kiper's not considering Shanahan's history. Cutler was an anomaly.

When Cutler was drafted, the Broncos were coming off a 13-3 record behind (then, 31 year old) Jake Plummer. The team was pretty solid all around, and their starting QB had just posted a 90.2 QB rating for the year. Drafting Cutler was a luxury, and Shanahan probably originally expected him to sit and learn for awhile.

Shanahan's other primary QBs were acquired thusly:
Elway (inherited), Griese (3rd round draft), Plummer (signed as free agent), McNabb (acquired through trade).

I suspect Coach Shanahan will not opt to pour more resources into the QB position this year with the first round pick, but seek to address other areas that could use a little tweaking. It's more likely he will trade back for more picks. Ironically, Shanahan/Allen could very well strike some sort of deal with the Raiders, because Al Davis has promised the Raiders will have a first round pick in this year's draft.

Just a hunch!

Posted by: Alan4 | January 19, 2011 2:17 PM | Report abuse

Is Mayock the one who writes for the NFL network?


Mike Mayock and Charles Davis are on the NFL Network.

They do the best job covering draft prospects, IMO.

Mayock got into a media fight with Kiper when he pointed out that Jay Cutler was the best quarterback in the draft the year he came out.

Kiper was big on M Leinhart and Vince Young.

And we see how all that panned out.

Posted by: MistaMoe | January 19, 2011 2:17 PM | Report abuse

Posted by: Alan4 | January 19, 2011 2:17 PM | Report abuse

Kiper's final mock had us taking Clausen at #4. Could you imagine if we listened to that turd?

Posted by: PAskinsfan17 | January 19, 2011 2:19 PM | Report abuse

My ratio is up, we need to brainwash, I mean recruit more members.

Posted by: monk811 | January 19, 2011 1:30 PM

I laud that idea!

And have hessone (hessone) on my radar.

Posted by: PlayAction | January 19, 2011 2:25 PM | Report abuse

unless you like sissy girl slap fights.

Posted by: PAskinsfan17 | January 19, 2011 2:08 PM | Report abuse

Sounds like beep's style to me.

I'm in if they are actual girls having the girly slap fight! Without clothes, naturally!

Posted by: monk811 | January 19, 2011 2:26 PM | Report abuse

Alan4

Shanahan/Allen could very well strike some sort of deal with the Raiders, because Al Davis has promised the Raiders will have a first round pick in this year's draft.

Just a hunch!

Given our needs, I'd hand over #10 for a 3rd and 5th.

That's:

2, 3, 5, 5, 5, 6,7,7

I think more mid round picks are of importance than 1st rounder when your needs are d-lineman in a draft loaded with them.

But that's just me.

Posted by: MistaMoe | January 19, 2011 2:27 PM | Report abuse

moe, agreed on Mayock and Davis...listening to them while they're at the combine is just great...

Posted by: BeantownGreg1 | January 19, 2011 2:28 PM | Report abuse

Anyone still have Mark Brunell's number?

How about Slingin' Sammy Baugh?

(I realize the latter has been dead for a few years already, but his opinions about the current state of the Redskins are still almost as relevant as Campbell's)

If Campbell was such a class act, he'd decline a few interview requests already -- and explain that he really heasn't seen much of the Redskins since he left last summer.

Posted by: Vic1 | January 19, 2011 2:30 PM | Report abuse

Given our needs, I'd hand over #10 for a 3rd and 5th.

That's:

2, 3, 5, 5, 5, 6,7,7

Posted by: MistaMoe | January 19, 2011 2:27 PM | Report

Been drinking at lunch again huh?

Posted by: scampbell1975 | January 19, 2011 2:30 PM | Report abuse

Congratulations Jason Campbell life is good off the Washington football team! Be grateful, you have a higher power looking out for you. Your new boss, Hue Jackson, has been praised for his player development skills, leadership acumen and maturity. Those qualities are lacking in the Shanahans – Mike and Kyle. Publically, we witnessed their treatment of McNabb. You are blessed! Did you ever think things would develop as they have?

Posted by: gvaway | January 19, 2011 2:30 PM | Report abuse

Congratulations Jason Campbell life is good off the Washington football team! Be grateful, you have a higher power looking out for you. Your new boss, Hue Jackson, has been praised for his player development skills, leadership acumen and maturity. Those qualities are lacking in the Shanahans – Mike and Kyle. Publically, we witnessed their treatment of McNabb. You are blessed! Did you ever think things would develop as they have?

Posted by: gvaway | January 19, 2011 2:33 PM | Report abuse

Congratulations Jason Campbell life is good off the Washington football team! Be grateful, you have a higher power looking out for you. Your new boss, Hue Jackson, has been praised for his player development skills, leadership acumen and maturity. Those qualities are lacking in the Shanahans – Mike and Kyle. Publically, we witnessed their treatment of McNabb. You are blessed! Did you ever think things would develop as they have?

Posted by: gvaway | January 19, 2011 2:38 PM | Report abuse

Campbell; what a funny guy! Al Davis in his corner, that's great until he sticks the knife in his back and breaks it off. Pity for the Skins players, HELLO, your in Oakland you Jackwagon. 8-8 record, OK you play much better when you dump the ball off behind the line of scrimage to McFadden then when you dumped it of to Ladel Betts...dah!

Posted by: Skin4Life1 | January 19, 2011 2:38 PM | Report abuse

Posted by: gvaway | January 19, 2011 2:33 PM

Don't think JC checks in on RI any longer...but we'll be sure that pabrian passes along your warm wishes for you.

Posted by: PlayAction | January 19, 2011 2:39 PM | Report abuse

Congratulations Jason Campbell life is good off the Washington football team! Be grateful, you have a higher power looking out for you. Your new boss, Hue Jackson, has been praised for his player development skills, leadership acumen and maturity. Those qualities are lacking in the Shanahans – Mike and Kyle. Publically, we witnessed their treatment of McNabb. You are blessed! Did you ever think things would develop as they have?

Posted by: gvaway | January 19, 2011 2:40 PM | Report abuse

Posted by: gvaway | January 19, 2011 2:33 PM

Don't think JC checks in on RI any longer...but we'll be sure that pabrian passes along your warm wishes for you.

Posted by: PlayAction | January 19, 2011 2:39 PM |

That'll be hard for peabrain to do since every time he's around J. Camp. his mouth is full.

Posted by: scampbell1975 | January 19, 2011 2:41 PM | Report abuse

MistaMoe,
You should consult this NFL draft-pick value chart, and put away the one Vinny gave you (just clowning!): http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/draft06/news/story?id=2410670

We should get better than a 3rd and a 5th for the 10th pick in the draft, but I agree it should be traded back for more picks.

Posted by: Alan4 | January 19, 2011 2:45 PM | Report abuse

jason reid has got the biggest man crush on Jason Campbell. I really don't care what he has to say, he does not play for us anymore. What is next Jreid, an in depth with Ryan clark, Antwan Randle El, or Suisam? Can we just concentrate on the people we have and not everyone else?

Posted by: rmcpks73 | January 19, 2011 2:50 PM | Report abuse

Its great your better then mcnabb .the Redskins went 6 wins,with campbell 4 wins. Good luck campbell, davis wants a winner not a whiner.

Posted by: dcg326 | January 19, 2011 2:53 PM | Report abuse

Its great your better then mcnabb .the Redskins went 6 wins,with campbell 4 wins. Good luck campbell, davis wants a winner not a whiner.

Posted by: dcg326 | January 19, 2011 2:53 PM | Report abuse

Its great your better then mcnabb .the Redskins went 6 wins,with campbell 4 wins. Good luck campbell, davis wants a winner not a whiner.

Posted by: dcg326 | January 19, 2011 2:53 PM | Report abuse

Given our needs, I'd hand over #10 for a 3rd and 5th.

That's:

2, 3, 5, 5, 5, 6,7,7

Posted by: MistaMoe | January 19, 2011 2:27 PM | Report

Been drinking at lunch again huh?

Posted by: scampbell1975 | January 19, 2011 2:30 PM | Report abuse
Moe, you're not even close on the trade values.

#10 selection = 1300 pts.

A 3rd and a 5th = 210 pts.

RAiders are selecting in 17th slot.
2011 2nd rd = 410
2011 3rd rd = 185
Then let's throw in a couple of picks from next year...
2012 1st rd = 410
2012 2nd rd = 185

And you're still only getting 1190 pts back.

I'm not saying we would get all that, but a 3rd and a 5th???

Posted by: frediefritz | January 19, 2011 2:55 PM | Report abuse

scampbell1975


I don't know how the draft trading down stuff works.

But I do know how to pick some winners.

If we walk with a q-b, NT, d-end, olb, rt, wr, g, and fs from this draft, we're in good shape provided the players can play.

And if they can be contributors, I don't care what round they come in.

Posted by: MistaMoe | January 19, 2011 2:56 PM | Report abuse

Just read some bad news for our Skins...looks like Philly is close to getting Jim Washburn from Tennessee.

That hurts us two-fold: it basically takes the Titans out of the running for AH's services, and it strengthens a division rival at a spot we can't afford them to get better at: D-line play. I hope to God this falls thru and Philly continues to middle on defense...

Posted by: brownwood26 | January 19, 2011 6:10 AM

Washburn is now signed ... which means if (when?) the Skins release Haynesworth, we can look forward to him playing with a grudge twice a season for the next few years.

Posted by: dcsween | January 19, 2011 2:58 PM | Report abuse

Patriots are selecting in 17th slot.


fixed it for ya...

Posted by: BeantownGreg1 | January 19, 2011 2:59 PM | Report abuse

DL beeps

Posted by: frediefritz | January 19, 2011 3:07 PM | Report abuse

this article is blatantly not a redskins issue. I liked jason campbell when he was a redskin and would have like the team to have kept him and the draft picks wasted on mcnabb, but they didn't and this all happened quite a while ago. I genuinely don't understand the continued focus on his every thought and feeling, and this article mostly reminds me of something one might read in the Oakland Tribune.

Posted by: bryan4967 | January 19, 2011 3:07 PM | Report abuse

From Walter Football dot com about Skins' needs. I disagree about fullback (and think it can wait) and I figure Barnes can replace Buchanon at nickel corner, but otherwise, its hard to argue with some of this. The size of this list is part of my thinking about why they should re-sign Rogers and Jammal Brown (and maybe even Gano) if they can.

>>>>>

Offseason Needs:

Quarterback: As I said, it's back to the drawing board. The Redskins will likely take Blaine Gabbert, Cam Newton or Jake Locker with the No. 10 overall pick in the 2011 NFL Draft.

Wide Receiver: Make it two wide receivers if the Redskins can't retain Santana Moss. Washington may target someone like Torrey Smith or Leonard Hankerson in the second round this April; their new quarterback will need a talented target to throw to.

Right Tackle: Jammal Brown is a free agent, and he'll probably do everything he can to get out of Washington. If he leaves, add right tackle to the Redskins' never-ending list of needs.

Rush Linebacker: The Redskins had a great pass-rushing combination in 2009 with Andre Carter, Brian Orakpo and Albert Haynesworth dominating opposing fronts. Why they changed to a 3-4 is beyond me. Carter won't be back, so Washington will have to find a new rush linebacker.

Inside Linebacker: It's hard to imagine Rocky McIntosh sticking around after struggling in the 3-4. Meanwhile, London Fletcher turns 36 in May.

Nose Tackle: Assuming Albert Haynesworth and Mike Shanahan can't kiss and make up, the Redskins will need a new nose tackle because Ma'ake Mekoeatu isn't cutting it.

Cornerback: Carlos Rogers and Phillip Buchanon are both free agents. Replacements are needed here if either one walks.

Right End: Kedric Golston needs to be upgraded. If Washington didn't desperately need a quarterback, it could go for someone like J.J. Watt with the 10th pick.

Free Safety: Kareem Moore really struggled in 2010, but then again, so did pretty much everyone else. With so many needs, the Redskins will probably be forced to keep Moore as their starting free safety for another season.

Right Guard: Artis Hicks was a failed offseason acquisition. He was benched in the middle of the year, so the Redskins will look elsewhere for a solution at this position.

Center: Casey Rabach, 34 in September, is not getting the job done. Yet another upgrade is needed up front.

Fullback: The Redskins will be looking to upgrade Mike Sellers.

Kicker: Graham Gano went 24-of-35 last season, whiffing on a 30-yarder in the team's finale against the Giants.

Punter: As you can see, the Redskins have more needs than any other team in the NFL. Not to keep piling on, but they have no punter.

Posted by: dcsween | January 19, 2011 3:08 PM | Report abuse

Posted by: dcsween | January 19, 2011 3:08 PM

Kinda makes you want to cry

Posted by: zcezcest1 | January 19, 2011 3:24 PM | Report abuse

Why all these JC articles? Who the heck cares? Why not tell us how Brunell feels about being THIS close to a Super Bowl?

Posted by: laud001 | January 19, 2011 4:43 PM | Report abuse

Great season for Jason. Same old Same old for the Deadskins. Was pleased to see the Raiders pick Hue Jackson for Head Coach.He and Jason should make things happen for that team. I visit that area 2-3 times a year, may catch a Raider game when I am out there.

Contrarywise, What the #*!&* do we have to look forward to? The gang that can't shoot straight!!

Posted by: 15of18 | January 19, 2011 4:47 PM | Report abuse

JC is better off in Oakland the Skins are old, overpaid and decimated: No McNabb. No Fat Albert. Less Draft Picks. Time to build with Orakpo, Trent, Armstrong and Banks

Posted by: jercha | January 19, 2011 4:47 PM | Report abuse

Only morons and "brotherly love" givers would care one iota about this guy. He is a loser, would never be more than a second or third tier QB. Enough is enough. Now how about writing something about the current situation with the Skins. What are they up to?

Posted by: isthatallthereis | January 19, 2011 6:18 PM | Report abuse

Any updates on Patrick Ramsey? Sage Rosenfels? Babe Laufenberg? Sam Wyche? Billy Kilmer?

Posted by: randysbailin | January 19, 2011 8:08 PM | Report abuse

I'm sure Jason is happy. Happy to be ANYWHERE in the NFL.

Who but the Raiders would rely on a OB who:
throws balls in the dirt,
can't read any NFL defenses,
panics in the red zone,
hyperventilates during the 2 minute offense, and
has less pocket presence than PeeWee Herman.

And at the end of another losing season, JC will pull out one of his 34 ready made excuses for failure, including, "I've had to learn ____ different offenses in the last ____ years." Fill in the blanks.

Posted by: broadwayjoe | January 19, 2011 8:26 PM | Report abuse

Keep it real sween,
We need an upgrade at Fullback too. It's just not as high a priority as the other 49 positions of need.

Posted by: _Stumped_ | January 20, 2011 12:16 PM | Report abuse

Redskins fans are haters for sure. As soon as players, coaches make good elsewhere they are spoke of in very inadequate terms, even though they are better off on their new teams. Face the facts, its not the players, its the organization that is holding these guys back. Ones man garbage cant always be another s treasure...

Posted by: Jizel | January 20, 2011 1:48 PM | Report abuse

many of you so-called fans of washington are stupid losers..the team is a loser and can't stand to see anyone doing better on another team..too bad morons you deserve exactly what you have NOTHING" you keep supporting this team like mindless zombies and the team keeps giving you the shaft. snyder is still making big money from you bigots good for him because he can rely on your support. I hope reid writes a columm on campbell every week because nothing good is happening with this team to write about..to be continued.

Posted by: wathu19 | January 21, 2011 9:14 PM | Report abuse

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