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In wake of McNabb trade, what can Redskins hope to get for Campbell?

With the Redskins acquiring quarterback Donovan McNabb, many teams that were in the market for a veteran QB now are expected to shift their focus to Jason Campbell.

ESPN 980 on Monday reported Buffalo, Carolina, Oakland, Jacksonville and an unidentified team are believed to be interested in Campbell, who could become an unrestricted free agent at the end of this season. There wasn't a lot out there in the free-agent market at quarterback, so Campbell, even after his difficult five-year experience with the Redskins, still could be a viable option for teams in need of immediate help.

What could the Redskins hope to receive in exchange for Campbell, given that they have no trade leverage? Well, the Denver Broncos last offseason were not interested in Campbell as part of the Redskins' offer for quarterback Jay Cutler, said a former NFL player-personnel official involved in those trade talks.

Also during the previous offseason, a senior Redskins official contacted another NFC team to inquire if that team would be interested in trading a second-round pick for Campbell, someone with knowledge of the Redskins' ongoing attempts to move Campbell said. The Redskins' trial balloon for the second-rounder was quickly shot down. To say the least, Campbell's trade value is not very high, thanks in large part to how some in the organization have privately demeaned him throughout the league the past two seasons.

Before they sent their second-round pick (No. 37 overall) in the month's draft to the Eagles for McNabb, the Redskins also had previously traded their third- and sixth-round picks in previous deals. At this point, it seems unlikely another team would give the Redskins more than a third- or fourth-round pick for Campbell.

It's not that Campbell is totally devoid of talent. He has a strong arm and can make all the throws, personnel people and coaches say, it's just that he has been publicly devalued because of the Redskins' previous efforts to trade him, their flirtation with Mark Sanchez last season and the fact that he didn't win much in Washington.

If Coach Mike Shanahan and General Manager Bruce Allen are able to persuade another team to part with more than a fourth-rounder for Campbell, then that just might be some of their best work yet.

By Jason Reid  |  April 5, 2010; 10:24 AM ET
Categories:  Donovan McNabb , Jason Campbell , Jason Reid  
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Comments

FIRST with PFT's take (which I'm sure was the motivation for this thread anyway):

Report: Five teams interested in Jason Campbell
Posted by Gregg Rosenthal on April 5, 2010 10:19 AM ET
It's only a matter of time before Jason Campbell gets traded from the Redskins.

ESPN 980 in Washington reports there are five teams already interested: Buffalo, Carolina, Oakland, Jacksonville & an unknown team.

Keep in mind that radio station is owned by Dan Snyder, so there is plenty of self-interest in floating so many teams out there to create a market.

Still, we don't think this will be a tough deal to pull off. Consider that David Carr had multiple suitors as a free agent. Campbell would have been the best free agent available by leaps and bounds.

SI's Peter King -- who had a fabulous writeup about Donte' Stallworth Monday -- guesses Campbell could be worth a fifth-rounder. We think he's worth more.

He's far cheaper and younger than McNabb. Campbell may not have the pedigree McNabb does, but we don't think their trade value (or talent level at this point) is that different.

Posted by: brownwood26 | April 5, 2010 10:36 AM | Report abuse

I see 3 possibilities...Rams, Raiders, & Bills.

The compensation...4th -5th.

That's it that's the list.

Posted by: Diesel44 | April 5, 2010 10:36 AM | Report abuse

Folks may not realize how committed McNabb is to his conditioning program.

He's smart, athletic, a leader, confident in the division, and fun to watch.

Ask Desean Jackson what his opinion of McNabbster is.

This is GREAT news for our young receivers.

Posted by: Chia_Pet | April 5, 2010 10:36 AM | Report abuse

mistamayor

"At this point, it seems unlikely another team would give the Redskins more than a third- or fourth-round pick for Campbell."


And a low 3rd or 4th rounder for Campbell is acceptable.

And you can't blame the previous FO for devaluing him as with a ton 'o game tape in their hands, other coaches see and know the limits to Campbell's game.

Posted by: MistaMoe | April 5, 2010 10:37 AM | Report abuse

This is great news for both McNabb and Campbell.

I wish them both success.

HTTR

Posted by: Chia_Pet | April 5, 2010 10:37 AM | Report abuse

And The Danny was a 'successful' business man?

How many missteps can one guy take before he falls into pit... hey, one can dream.

Posted by: DikShuttle | April 5, 2010 10:38 AM | Report abuse

package JC and CP to the Bills for a couple of 4th round picks and be done with it.

Posted by: 1965skinsfan | April 5, 2010 10:38 AM | Report abuse

it's just that he has been publicly devalued because of the Redskins' previous efforts to trade him, their flirtation with Mark Sanchez last season and the fact that he didn't win much in Washington.

By Jason Reid | April 5, 2010; 10:24 AM ET

BS, Jason Reid, just pure BS.

Other GM's base their assessment of Jason Campbell on the way he plays, not on whether he was "publicly devalued," whatever that means. They have tape on this guy and they know what he can bring to their teams.

Posted by: League-Source | April 5, 2010 10:39 AM | Report abuse

moe you stay up for the whole thing?

Posted by: BeantownGreg1 | April 5, 2010 10:40 AM | Report abuse

They have ten days to get a deal done, right? Isn't that the deadline for RFAs to sign their contracts?

Posted by: TWISI | April 5, 2010 10:40 AM | Report abuse

This trade is great... it kills about 2 or 3 things that we don't have to talk about here on RI:

#1 JC is no longer the starter & we don't have to argue about it anymore.

#2 The Redskins aren't drafting a QB with the fourth pick, so no more Jimmy, Sammy, Colt, Teebow or whoever else will be drafted in the top 2 rounds.

This is a great day in Redskins nation, at least we have a competent QB who might be able to resurrect his career in the likes of Warner or Favre... McNabb will be very good in the first year, because think about how Zorn's unpredictability in the first 8 games got us to 6-2... now with McNabb in a new system for the first time in his career, he will have some unpredictability on his side because the Eagles offense was becoming stale.

This isn't a desperation move like the Jason Taylor trade, we're talking about getting the leader/face of the franchise with our #2 pick & one next year. What price do we put on wins??

Hail to the REDSKINS!!!

Posted by: tony325 | April 5, 2010 10:41 AM | Report abuse

diesal44

"I see 3 possibilities...Rams, Raiders, & Bills."


Throw in the panthers and vikings, and you have a better list.

I think the next best place for Jason Campbell is in Carolina.

Posted by: MistaMoe | April 5, 2010 10:41 AM | Report abuse

3rd rounder would be nice

Maybe a 4th and a conditional next year.

Posted by: PortisPocketsStr8 | April 5, 2010 10:41 AM | Report abuse

I agree with Wise's take on the situation. The more things change, the more they stay the same.

Posted by: hobbes9 | April 5, 2010 10:32 AM

F Wise....

Like JReid....He's 100% in the tank for Campbell....

Campbell has not done for the Skins as McNabb has done for the Iggles, and doesn't deserve the same treatment. But, he will get it irregardless. BEcause he will get traded to a non-WCO team and maybe be able to battle for a Starter's role, if not, he'll be a solid back up and still getting paid. And have a fresh start.....

Posted by: 4thFloor | April 5, 2010 10:41 AM | Report abuse

DIk,

Lighten up, brother.

Don't you put any value into instantly being competitive in the NFC East... after years of being a doormat?

I think you've gone mad watching JC17 flub it out so many times.

General McNabb is now in the house.

Posted by: Chia_Pet | April 5, 2010 10:42 AM | Report abuse

They have ten days to get a deal done, right? Isn't that the deadline for RFAs to sign their contracts?

Posted by: TWISI | April 5, 2010 10:40 AM |

What are you asking they have 10 days for who to do what.

Posted by: Flounder21 | April 5, 2010 10:42 AM | Report abuse

I'm not sure if they'll bite, but I've always thought that JC would be a good fit in Carolina. With those two great RBs and dedication to the run, that's the perfect situation for a QB with a big arm and some mobility. He would make Carolina much better right away. If that D ever lives up to expectations (even without Peppers), they could be a serious playoff contender.

Posted by: brownwood26 | April 5, 2010 10:42 AM | Report abuse

We can probably get a bag of skittles for Campbell.

Or maybe some old Cadbury eggs that are up by the cash register

Posted by: Scoonie97 | April 5, 2010 10:43 AM | Report abuse

Example of value in this draft....

Jordin Shipley will be available in the 3rd/4th Round......

Posted by: 4thFloor | April 5, 2010 10:43 AM | Report abuse

THE REASON NO TEAM WILL OFFER MORE THAT A 4TH, IS BECAUSE HE ISN'T WORTH MORE THAN A 4TH AROU8ND THE LEAGUE...IT DOESN'T MATTER WHAT THE PREVIOUS REGIME HAS SAID ABOUT HIM(ESPECIALLY IF THEY ARE AS DICREDITED AS YOU WOULD HAVE EVERYONE BELIEVE)....BUT OF COURSE, YOU AND THE POST WILL KEEP TRYING TO SPIN HOW GREAT OF A QUARTERBACK AND PERSON CAMPBELL IS....YET, NO OTHER TRUE PERSONNEL PEOPLE AROUND THE LEAGUE(WHO WOULD ACTUALLY KNOW) THINK OF CAMPBELL HAS A QUALITY STARTING QUARTERBACK. f the post and the spin machine that they are!!!!!

Posted by: frmi | April 5, 2010 10:43 AM | Report abuse

***repost***

If they can get all that in the draft - or between now and the start of the season - terrific.

I don't see it.

Posted by: SteveMG | April 5, 2010 10:17 AM | Report abuse

Guess I'm not of the train of thought that the entire OLine will be fixed in 1 year. Alot of needs on the team, but the biggest one has already been addressed.

Posted by: skinsfanintampa | April 5, 2010 10:38 AM | Report abuse

Posted by: skinsfanintampa | April 5, 2010 10:43 AM | Report abuse

I like the fact that Shanahan has chose to renovate the roster instead of demolishing it.

I also like the fact that McNabb has three WRs over 6-2 to throw to, I think McNabb does better with taller WRs. Not mentioning Davis or Cooley.

Even with the offensive line still somewhat a mystery, I'm a little geeked about the possibilities in the passing game.

McNabb is a better downfield passer than Campbell (+20 yards).

Posted by: RedDMV | April 5, 2010 10:44 AM | Report abuse

I really hope that he doesn't get shipped to the Raiders. I know that Flounder doesn't agree with this, but I think that the Redskins should try to treat him right in a trade. Yes, this is all a business, but I think you can do good business without jerking people around - which is what Philly has been doing with McNabb and Skins have been doing with Campbell.

Posted by: suzannepdc | April 5, 2010 10:44 AM | Report abuse

diesal44

"I see 3 possibilities...Rams, Raiders, & Bills.

"Throw in the panthers and vikings, and you have a better list.

I think the next best place for Jason Campbell is in Carolina.

Posted by: MistaMoe | April 5, 2010 10:41 AM

I left them out intentionally. The media is wrong.

Panthers- Matt Moore
Vikings- Brett Favre, if not Jackson/Rosenfels

Posted by: Diesel44 | April 5, 2010 10:45 AM | Report abuse

Hey 4th Floor, you actually hit on this one for once, I'll give you props for that, and I already read a few posts back you gloating like a 5 year old. Me myself, I never thought the Eagles would be that stupid, but I was proven wrong. Too bad your reputation will be back in the crapper again when the draft comes around and Spiller won't be going to the Skins with the 4th overall. Enjoy your glory for a couple of weeks..

Posted by: ga8085 | April 5, 2010 10:46 AM | Report abuse

I would hope I get two first rounders, but then again I hope I win the MegaMillion and the PowerBall the same day. The reality, like the lottos, I would get nothing in return.

Posted by: hock1 | April 5, 2010 10:46 AM | Report abuse

bean

"..you stay up for the whole thing?"

Naw, I hit RI at the 7th inning stretch to get some reading about the McNabb trade, then hit the bed.

Looks like it was another great game.

Posted by: MistaMoe | April 5, 2010 10:47 AM | Report abuse

Vinny Cerratto has been vindicated.

Last season, Vinny said publicly that he believes he assembled a "playoff" caliber roster. Most of us scoffed at the notion, but this move for McNabb clearly indicates otherwise.

Obviously, you don't cough up draft picks for a 33 year old QB if your plan/belief is that the team needs to rebuild. This move says that Shallen believes the pieces are in place to compete NOW, with a few adjustments to the roster. ]

Clearly Shallen is of the mindset that we are only 1 or 2 players away - a mindset that we fans have been roundly condemning for years.

All in all, I'm fairly disappointed. This move smacks of classic Snyder. We are going to give McNabb a big extension. We just gave up draft picks for a past-prime "star" whose best years were on someone else's team. McNabb's durability and production are on the slide. We are crazy if we think he's going to last a full season.

I hope to heaven that Shallen can move JC17, Carlos Rogers and LL30 and get some decent picks back in return.

Posted by: p1funk | April 5, 2010 10:47 AM | Report abuse

If I am Campbell I am hoping to go to the Bills, Rams or the Panthers. Historically run first teams.

Panthers I think would be No.1, they know how to build a line.

No.2 Rams, Who could help Campbell more with his weaknesses better than Spags who made a living exploiting his weaknesses.

Bills, well they are a desperate franchise looking for anything to help, and the Media in Buffalo will not grill Campbell like they have in DC.

Posted by: alex35332 | April 5, 2010 10:47 AM | Report abuse

And The Danny was a 'successful' business man?

Posted by: DikShuttle | April 5, 2010 10:38 AM

Beyond most people's wildest dreams. Turned a two-bit media company $2 billion and he doubled the value of the Redskins. You should be so lucky.

Posted by: League-Source | April 5, 2010 10:47 AM | Report abuse

They have ten days to get a deal done, right? Isn't that the deadline for RFAs to sign their contracts?

Posted by: TWISI | April 5, 2010 10:40 AM

I think it is 7 days before the draft if another team signed him to an offer sheet.

Otherwise, he doesn't have to sign until he gets traded.....But he can still workout at Redskins PArk until then.....

Posted by: 4thFloor | April 5, 2010 10:47 AM | Report abuse

Matt Moore is better than Jason Campbell, so no to Carolina.

Posted by: 1965skinsfan | April 5, 2010 10:48 AM | Report abuse

They have ten days to get a deal done, right? Isn't that the deadline for RFAs to sign their contracts?

Posted by: TWISI | April 5, 2010 10:40 AM |

What are you asking they have 10 days for who to do what.

Posted by: Flounder21 | April 5, 2010 10:42 AM

Sorry. JC has to sign his tender by 4/15/2010 so that the Skins can trade him, is that correct? If JC doesn't sign his tender by that date then what happens?

Posted by: TWISI | April 5, 2010 10:49 AM | Report abuse

Folks may not realize how committed McNabb is to his conditioning program.

He's smart, athletic, a leader, confident in the division, and fun to watch.

Ask Desean Jackson what his opinion of McNabbster is.

This is GREAT news for our young receivers.

Posted by: Chia_Pet | April 5, 2010 10:35 AM | Report abuse

Why is he always sucking wind and chucking balls into the turf in the 4th quarter then? Serious question.

Posted by: SMACK1 | April 5, 2010 10:49 AM | Report abuse

And you can't blame the previous FO for devaluing him as with a ton 'o game tape in their hands, other coaches see and know the limits to Campbell's game.

Posted by: MistaMoe | April 5, 2010 10:37 AM

Word. It's unbelievable that JReid is blaming his value on the team.

Posted by: learnedhand1 | April 5, 2010 10:49 AM | Report abuse

another thing to consider about DM, is we will be a run first team, which he has never been a part of....

Posted by: Zeebs | April 5, 2010 10:49 AM | Report abuse

temper that NFC East dominance enthusiasm for a minute:

We still don't have a line. And now are missing the 2nd O Line pick we needed. McNabb can't run like he used to, and he'll have to do a lot of it. Plus he looked/looks as fat & outta shape as anyone we've been complaining about for the last two seasons.

Everyone in the NFC East already knows how to beat McNabb. They've played him a ton already and know his abilities. Plus, no Jackson to throw to now.

Hey, I hope I'm wrong. I've just seen this movie too many times, haven't you?

Posted by: DikShuttle | April 5, 2010 10:50 AM | Report abuse

Someone go give Al Davis a weed brownie, we need to get a 2nd rounder back.

Posted by: hokiesmokie | April 5, 2010 10:50 AM | Report abuse

Last season, Vinny said publicly that he believes he assembled a "playoff" caliber roster. .

Posted by: p1funk | April 5, 2010 10:47 AM

funk--He did assemble a playoff caliber roster. If Shanahan had been coaching that roster against that schedule, he would have gone 10-6 and made the playoffs. It took a Zorn to blow it down to 4-12.

But, that's NOT what Vinny said. He said "Super Bowl Roster." And not even Shanahan could have wheeled that roster into a playoff win.

Posted by: League-Source | April 5, 2010 10:51 AM | Report abuse

I like the fact that Shanahan has chose to renovate the roster instead of demolishing it.

I also like the fact that McNabb has three WRs over 6-2 to throw to, I think McNabb does better with taller WRs. Not mentioning Davis or Cooley.

Even with the offensive line still somewhat a mystery, I'm a little geeked about the possibilities in the passing game.

McNabb is a better downfield passer than Campbell (+20 yards).

Posted by: RedDMV | April 5, 2010 10:44 AM | Report abuse


Red, did you see what McNabb did with DeSean Jackson last year? THat boy is not tall, but he's fast.

McNabb does have a better deep ball than JC (more accurate), but his accuracy in the intermediate game is really questionable.

Is it just me, or is anyone else going to have a hard time rooting for McNabb...I mean I've spent the last 11 years of my life booing the guy, trashing him, and wishing we'd knock him out of a game...and now all of a sudden I'm supposed to rock a McNabb jersey???

This is wierd.

Posted by: p1funk | April 5, 2010 10:51 AM | Report abuse

League, even if most GM's think JC's worth a 3rd round pick, they're not gonna offer that primarily because they know we don't want him here. It makes sense...the only thing that'll raise their offer is a bidding war, which I doubt is going to happen...

Posted by: mattylight | April 5, 2010 10:52 AM | Report abuse

I like the fact that Shanahan has chose to renovate the roster instead of demolishing it.

Posted by: RedDMV | April 5, 2010 10:44 AM

Right, because that philosophy has worked so well the last 11 years.

You hire a guy like Shanny and he's not interested in spending his twilight years rebuilding. He wants to win now but unfortunately the roster is 3-4 yrs away.

And of course we are 5 months away but with only 4 picks and nothing but the dregs of FA left he is delusional and so is everyone else if they think we are now playoff contenders.

Posted by: Diesel44 | April 5, 2010 10:52 AM | Report abuse

I'm not expecting dominance.

I'd be happy with simply being competitive in our division, and this trade puts us right there,.

Now we fix the line, and it's still do-able.

Posted by: Chia_Pet | April 5, 2010 10:52 AM | Report abuse

tyvm, SMACK1.

Posted by: DikShuttle | April 5, 2010 10:52 AM | Report abuse

"McNabb is a better downfield passer than Campbell (+20 yards)."


That's the truth.

Fear of the deep ball makes safeties play deeper, and thus, takes a man out of the box.

This opens up the running game.

And when you remember that Shanahan, unlike A Reid, is inclined to run then pass, McNabb may find the going easy as the entire offense is not centered around him throwing 40 times a game.

Posted by: MistaMoe | April 5, 2010 10:53 AM | Report abuse

funk--He did assemble a playoff caliber roster. If Shanahan had been coaching that roster against that schedule, he would have gone 10-6 and made the playoffs. It took a Zorn to blow it down to 4-12.

But, that's NOT what Vinny said. He said "Super Bowl Roster." And not even Shanahan could have wheeled that roster into a playoff win.

Posted by: League-Source | April 5, 2010 10:51 AM | Report abuse


Bottom line: This regime believes we are just a couple players away.

That's what the last regime thought.

We killed them and thought they were crazy for thinking that.

Posted by: p1funk | April 5, 2010 10:53 AM | Report abuse

We just gave up draft picks for a past-prime "star" whose best years were on someone else's team. McNabb's durability and production are on the slide. We are crazy if we think he's going to last a full season

Posted by: p1funk | April 5, 2010 10:47 AM | Report abuse

So let me ask you this, what if it was "Peyton Manning" instead.. because, you know, they are the same age and everything?

Posted by: skinsfanintampa | April 5, 2010 10:53 AM | Report abuse

Beyond most people's wildest dreams. Turned a two-bit media company $2 billion and he doubled the value of the Redskins. You should be so lucky.

Posted by: League-Source | April 5, 2010 10:47 AM


Right, because we as fans care SOOOO much about how much our team is earning vs. how many games they're winning.

"Who cares if we were 4-12? We're worth over a billion dollars!"

Since none of us are getting a piece of that action, you'll excuse me if no one much gives a sh*t.

Posted by: brownwood26 | April 5, 2010 10:53 AM | Report abuse

I think it is 7 days before the draft if another team signed him to an offer sheet.

Otherwise, he doesn't have to sign until he gets traded.....But he can still workout at Redskins PArk until then.....

Posted by: 4thFloor | April 5, 2010 10:47 AM

Thanks

Posted by: TWISI | April 5, 2010 10:54 AM | Report abuse

moe, turned it off in the 5th, didn't stay up for the fireworks...wish I had...

Posted by: BeantownGreg1 | April 5, 2010 10:54 AM | Report abuse

Is it just me, or is anyone else going to have a hard time rooting for McNabb...I mean I've spent the last 11 years of my life booing the guy, trashing him, and wishing we'd knock him out of a game...and now all of a sudden I'm supposed to rock a McNabb jersey???

This is wierd.

Posted by: p1funk | April 5, 2010 10:51 AM |

Hell no he's a Skin now.

Posted by: Flounder21 | April 5, 2010 10:54 AM | Report abuse

My completely worthless guess is if they can get a 4th next year for JC, they'll take it.

The value of draft picks has increased enormously over the past 3-5 years.

Just because Vinny C was tossing them around like nothing didn't mean others viewed them similarly.

Posted by: SteveMG | April 5, 2010 10:54 AM | Report abuse

Too bad your reputation will be back in the crapper again when the draft comes around and Spiller won't be going to the Skins with the 4th overall. Enjoy your glory for a couple of weeks..

Posted by: ga8085 | April 5, 2010 10:46 AM

Dude....This trade changes everything.

If you read back...You would also see where I said I'm starting to back off Spiller. But at the same time I maintain that Okung will not be there.

All this eqauls we will not be drafting at #4. Coming soon will be my Mock Draft 5.0.......

And you would think I should be able to gloat about this until training camp....which I will.......And if you read my F you Post....you apparently were included...

Posted by: 4thFloor | April 5, 2010 10:55 AM | Report abuse

and now all of a sudden I'm supposed to rock a McNabb jersey???

This is wierd.

Posted by: p1funk | April 5, 2010 10:51 AM

--------

Ahhhhh, you'll get over it, p1funk.

We win and you'll be cheering, trust that much.

Thinking of a new nickname for McNabb might also help.

Posted by: Chia_Pet | April 5, 2010 10:55 AM | Report abuse

3rd rounder would be nice

Maybe a 4th and a conditional next year.

Posted by: PortisPocketsStr8 | April 5, 2010 10:41 AM

That's the way I see it going down.

Or they package JC and another player to try to drive the value up. JC and Albert for Oaklands #8 over-all pick. They Raiders in great need of a DT.

Posted by: edvar | April 5, 2010 10:56 AM | Report abuse

Chia, if we fix the line, I'm with you.

... now... how do we do that?

Posted by: DikShuttle | April 5, 2010 10:56 AM | Report abuse

You hire a guy like Shanny and he's not interested in spending his twilight years rebuilding. He wants to win now but unfortunately the roster is 3-4 yrs away.

And of course we are 5 months away but with only 4 picks and nothing but the dregs of FA left he is delusional and so is everyone else if they think we are now playoff contenders.


Posted by: Diesel44 | April 5, 2010 10:52 AM |

Who says you, if Shanny thinks this team can compete then I will let it play out and see what happens.

Posted by: Flounder21 | April 5, 2010 10:56 AM | Report abuse

Brennan lets McNabb wear No. 5 jersey
Posted by Michael David Smith on April 5, 2010 10:49 AM ET
The NFL Shop can start working overtime to sell the new Donovan McNabb Redskins jerseys, because we now know that his jersey number in Washington will be the same as his jersey number in Philadelphia and at Syracuse.

The Redskins tweeted this morning that McNabb will continue to wear No. 5, which backup quarterback Colt Brennan has agreed to give up.

PFT's Mike Florio noted Sunday night that it should be a simple arrangement in which Brennan, who wore No. 15 at Hawaii, takes his old college number. And the Redskins say that's exactly what will happen.

We don't know if McNabb offered anything to Brennan for his jersey number, but we're guessing they were able to come to a more amicable agreement than Ifeanyi Ohalete and Clinton Portis.

Posted by: zjfr2 | April 5, 2010 10:56 AM | Report abuse

Posted by: p1funk | April 5, 2010 10:51 AM | Report abuse

I always respected mcnabb, I never hated him.

I thought Iggles fans were stupid to look a gift horse in the mouth like they did.

And I welcome him and hope he does great for us.

Posted by: Zeebs | April 5, 2010 10:57 AM | Report abuse

"Who cares if we were 4-12? We're worth over a billion dollars!"

Posted by: brownwood26 | April 5, 2010 10:53 AM

Now, there you are, going all idiot on us again. The question was whether he was a good businessman, not whether he had a winning record. So, you've got the right answer but to the wrong question.

Posted by: League-Source | April 5, 2010 10:57 AM | Report abuse

We just gave up draft picks for a past-prime "star" whose best years were on someone else's team. McNabb's durability and production are on the slide. We are crazy if we think he's going to last a full season

Posted by: p1funk | April 5, 2010 10:47 AM | Report abuse

So let me ask you this, what if it was "Peyton Manning" instead.. because, you know, they are the same age and everything?

Posted by: skinsfanintampa | April 5, 2010 10:53 AM | Report abuse


Manning's production and durability are way ahead of McNabb's - they may be the same age, but Manning is still playing like he's in his prime.

Last night I heard a stat that McNabb has missed something like 17 games through injury over the past 4 seasons. That's more than a whole season of standing on the sideline. What do we think is going to happen over the next 3-4 years? What do we think is going to happen this year if we can't get a decent Oline?

It's not like we are talking about McNabb of the early 2000's who will scramble. Now when he "scrambles", he pulls up limp on the sidelines without contact.

Posted by: p1funk | April 5, 2010 10:59 AM | Report abuse

Dik, we don't have to draft Okung with the 4th pick to fix the line.

If he's there we take him.

Whatever draft picks can be garnered from moving dopes like LL and CR from the roster, we spend on young lineman in the later rounds.

It'll be all right.

Posted by: Chia_Pet | April 5, 2010 11:00 AM | Report abuse

Chia, if we fix the line, I'm with you.

... now... how do we do that?

Posted by: DikShuttle | April 5, 2010 10:56 AM |

So you think that one 2nd round pick would have just made the o-line great, come on dude thats nuts.

Posted by: Flounder21 | April 5, 2010 11:00 AM | Report abuse

"Everyone in the NFC East already knows how to beat McNabb."

Well, they beat the eagles, not McNabb.

You have to remember that Mike Shanahan will run the ball in ways that Andy Reid didn't.

It's obvious that pressure in McNabb's face ruins his passing: re-visit the three losses to the pokes and all you see is him being flushed out of the pocket and into bad throws.

But the antidote for this defensive action is a steady diet of running plays.

And it is a diet that'll completely change McNabb's game.

Posted by: MistaMoe | April 5, 2010 11:00 AM | Report abuse

"To say the least, Campbell's trade value is not very high, thanks in large part to how some in the organization have privately demeaned him throughout the league the past two seasons."

What an unsubstantiated, subjective comment. Put a name to those who have been demeaning Campbell throughout the league? AND what legitimate football person would take that kind of nonsense at face value.

If Campbell's value is low league-wide, it's because people have looked at the tape, seen his awful mechanics, seen how often he needed only to step up in the pocket and throw down fields to a receiver instead of rolling into oncoming traffic or throwing to a blanketed outlet receiver. They've heard him after tough losses taking an "oh, well. Not my fault" attitude. They've listened as he accepts none of the criticism about his playing style or lack of leadership. If anyone in the league thinks that Campbell has value he'll get snapped up without a moment’s hesitation, no matter what anyone in the Redskins organization has said about him.

Posted by: tkoho | April 5, 2010 11:01 AM | Report abuse

Take anything you get for him.

A third round pick

A fourth round pick

A crusty old ham sandwich

A discount coupon for Papa Johns

Whatever...

Just get rid of him already.

Posted by: Vic1 | April 5, 2010 11:01 AM | Report abuse

I agree with 4th. The Lions are going to take Okung. They have as much need to protect their franchise QB as the Skins do.

Posted by: learnedhand1 | April 5, 2010 11:01 AM | Report abuse

Brennan lets McNabb wear No. 5 jersey
Posted by Michael David Smith on April 5, 2010 10:49 AM ET
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Respect.

Posted by: 4thFloor | April 5, 2010 11:02 AM | Report abuse

Fred Davis -- we turn him into an offensive lineman -- by trading him away.

Either him or Cooley.

But I'm in the CC camp all the way. He's our guy and should remain a Redskin.

Posted by: Chia_Pet | April 5, 2010 11:03 AM | Report abuse

Somehow being called an idiot by the by the biggest d-bag on the blog just isn't that insulting...kinda like being called a blowhard by Rush Limbaugh...

All I said is that being the richest franchise is little consolation to a fanbase that doesn't see a red cent of that money. Not answering any questions, just responding your incessant sucking up to and making excuses for Danny Snyder. I'll wait for your next off-topic reply...

Posted by: brownwood26 | April 5, 2010 11:03 AM | Report abuse

Like he had any choice in the matter.

Brennan lets McNabb wear No. 5 jersey
Posted by Michael David Smith on April 5, 2010 10:49 AM ET

The NFL Shop can start working overtime to sell the new Donovan McNabb Redskins jerseys, because we now know that his jersey number in Washington will be the same as his jersey number in Philadelphia and at Syracuse.

The Redskins tweeted this morning that McNabb will continue to wear No. 5, which backup quarterback Colt Brennan has agreed to give up.

PFT's Mike Florio noted Sunday night that it should be a simple arrangement in which Brennan, who wore No. 15 at Hawaii, takes his old college number. And the Redskins say that's exactly what will happen.

We don't know if McNabb offered anything to Brennan for his jersey number, but we're guessing they were able to come to a more amicable agreement than Ifeanyi Ohalete and Clinton Portis.

Posted by: TWISI | April 5, 2010 11:03 AM | Report abuse

I always respected mcnabb, I never hated him.

I thought Iggles fans were stupid to look a gift horse in the mouth like they did.

And I welcome him and hope he does great for us.

Posted by: Zeebs | April 5, 2010 10:57 AM | Report abuse

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I completely agree with you.

Posted by: suzannepdc | April 5, 2010 11:03 AM | Report abuse

3rd or 4th TOPS for JC. But I expect to see him go in a package. His value is just one number in the equation that will move him.

Unless it's a 2nd. OMG, take anything in the 2nd! (/sighs wistfully knowing it will never happen.)

Posted by: DCV1 | April 5, 2010 11:04 AM | Report abuse

and i would not be surprised if we did trade the #4 and get a 2nd rounder back.

if your main beef is with giving up the pick, i thik that will be addressed.

If your main beef is bringing in an eagle, you are just dumb.

If your main beef is the aging vet star, then ask yourself, would you rather have an unproven commodity in a 1st round Qb, or the 2nd rounder to groom?

Cause we can still get that 2nd or 4th rounder (assuming the trade i describe above) and groom them under a better QB, that will help us be competitive this year

Posted by: Zeebs | April 5, 2010 11:05 AM | Report abuse

"To say the least, Campbell's trade value is not very high, thanks in large part to how some in the organization have privately demeaned him throughout the league the past two seasons."
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Nah. Campbell DEVALUED himself over the past two seasons by his play on the field.

In any event, I love the move. McNabb gives us something we haven't had in a long time: a competent QB who can make plays and throw an accurate long ball.

I hope they take Okung if he's available at #4, and try to get Jake Locker in the 2011 draft.

Looks like the depth chart will be McNabb, Grossman, Brennan for the 2010 season.

Works for me.

Posted by: MrRedskin21 | April 5, 2010 11:07 AM | Report abuse

All this eqauls we will not be drafting at #4. Coming soon will be my Mock Draft 5.0.......

And you would think I should be able to gloat about this until training camp....which I will.......And if you read my F you Post....you apparently were included...

Posted by: 4thFloor | April 5, 2010 10:55 AM | Report abuse

Please no more mock drafts. And even Cerrato was right from time to time.

Edvar: I agree, I hope they don't trade Albert, but if they do, I think the Raiders would be a perfect fit and they would be willing to give up alot. You could atleast threaten Albert by saying you'll trade him to the Raiders if he doesn't get with the program.

Posted by: ga8085 | April 5, 2010 11:07 AM | Report abuse

I agree with 4th. The Lions are going to take Okung. They have as much need to protect their franchise QB as the Skins do.

Posted by: learnedhand1 | April 5, 2010 11:01 AM


So let me get this straight: the team rumored to want to trade down and not spend big $ at #2 is gonna pass on the better player (Suh) who will demand less money and take the guy (Okung) will potential for lesser impact and MORE money?

I don't buy it. Lions take Suh, McCoy to Tampa, Okung to Washington.

So let it be written, so let it be done.

Posted by: brownwood26 | April 5, 2010 11:08 AM | Report abuse

send JC and AH to Oakland already!

Posted by: 1965skinsfan | April 5, 2010 11:08 AM | Report abuse

beep

Posted by: Zeebs | April 5, 2010 11:09 AM | Report abuse

It kind of pisses me off that we didn't go after any of the other FAs early on in the offseason.

We are suddenly in "win-now" mode, and Karlos Dansby and/or Julius Peppers would look nice on a new 3-4 defense that needs to make a Superbowl run in the next year or 2.

There were plenty of serviceable veteran linemen that we let slip away b/c apparently we were being conservative and fiscal as we positioned ourselve to rebuild. Guys like Pashos or Sims would have been nice additions, but we low-balled them.

Now we need to draft a couple rookies to be our bookend tackles and expect them to anchor an Oline for a Superbowl contending team.

Does any of this make sense to anyone???

Posted by: p1funk | April 5, 2010 11:09 AM | Report abuse

Kyle Shanahan is most pleased with this trade.

Posted by: Chia_Pet | April 5, 2010 11:09 AM | Report abuse

Right, because that philosophy has worked so well the last 11 years.

You hire a guy like Shanny and he's not interested in spending his twilight years rebuilding. He wants to win now but unfortunately the roster is 3-4 yrs away.

And of course we are 5 months away but with only 4 picks and nothing but the dregs of FA left he is delusional and so is everyone else if they think we are now playoff contenders.


Posted by: Diesel44


Diesel, I don't recall anyone with the qualifications like Shanahan and Allen making these decisions the last 10 years.

It's okay to renovate rather than demolish.

Suggesting that by signing Mike Williams you've addressed the offensive line isn't renovating.

It's just stupid.

p1, true he had good chemistry with DeSean Jackson. I just think that the current WRs on the 'Skins roster > the Eagles WRs. Besides, With guys like Thomas, Kelly, and Marko, McNabb has big targets to hit over the middle.

Again, that's excluding Cooley and Davis -- assuming both are still here.

I can admit while I think this was a good trade, there are still a few questions that need to be answered.

Like what becomes of Campbell and other tendered players, and the offensive line?

Posted by: RedDMV | April 5, 2010 11:10 AM | Report abuse

Who says you, if Shanny thinks this team can compete then I will let it play out and see what happens.

Posted by: Flounder21 | April 5, 2010 10:56 AM | Report abuse

That's the only choice we have. I guess we could jump ship like some of these other cornholers. Amazing showing loyalty to players over the team. On top of that the players have played horribly.

Posted by: scampbell1975 | April 5, 2010 11:10 AM | Report abuse

I'm curious... do people really think that JUST getting Mcnabb makes us competitive in the NFC East? Are we now a 10-6 team, with real playoff hope? Really? Please explain how this move automatically makes us the class of the East? I'm lost?

And yes, I understand the draft is still coming, but unless we make some other pretty sizable moves, I just do not see how this makes us a playoff contending team...

Posted by: peoplearestupid1 | April 5, 2010 11:10 AM | Report abuse

beeps

Posted by: PortisPocketsStr8 | April 5, 2010 11:10 AM | Report abuse

Why is he always sucking wind and chucking balls into the turf in the 4th quarter then? Serious question.

Posted by: SMACK1

Because Andy Reid rode DMac like a rented mule and abandoned the run whenever a game got close. I'll take a supposedly tired and inaccurate McNabb over the deer in the headlights we've been putting under center these past few years. We spent a first round pick on Campbell and traded up to get him; we spent a second round pick on McNabb. Which one is the better value?

Posted by: Kenbeatrizz | April 5, 2010 11:11 AM | Report abuse

It shouldn't matter to JC's trade value that the Skins "demeaned" JC around the league. I mean, how respected are the Skins anyway? JC's performance (with an awful OL), his tools, high character, and stats all speak for themselves. Who cares at all what Vinnie might have mouthed off about?

Posted by: EdDC | April 5, 2010 11:11 AM | Report abuse

All I said is that being the richest franchise is little consolation to a fanbase that doesn't see a red cent of that money.

Posted by: brownwood26 | April 5, 2010 11:03 AM

So, basically, you're agreeing with me that he's a successful businessman, but you just wanted to point out that the sky is blue and leaves are green. But, you didn't want to do it in a polite civil manner because you're an idiot?

Posted by: League-Source | April 5, 2010 11:11 AM | Report abuse

hey jason, his trade value is not very high because he is not very good. no more campbell, nice.

Posted by: cavalieri10 | April 5, 2010 11:12 AM | Report abuse

This isn't a desperation move like the Jason Taylor trade, we're talking about getting the leader/face of the franchise with our #2 pick & one next year. What price do we put on wins??

Posted by: tony325 | April 5, 2010 10:41 AM |


How is this not a desperation move? The o line is still in shambles, the running back position is not settled, the skins dont have any dynamic receivers and the defense is still being formed. To think of this team as playoff contenders is a joke. They werent even smart enough to trade JC17 before they consummated the McNabb deal. In doing that they effectively changed the compensation for JC from a second rounder to a third or fourth rounder. I like McNabb, but the more I think about this deal the less it makes sense.

Posted by: KingJoffeJoffer | April 5, 2010 11:14 AM | Report abuse

I see the Oakland Raiders making a move for Campbell now. Campbell is an excellent QB who was never really giving the career development support he needed here in Washington. Crappy offensive line, new O-coordinator every year, etc. The guy is talented and I hope the Raiders nab him now.

Posted by: DarkHelmet1983 | April 5, 2010 11:14 AM | Report abuse

Did LaCanfora write that last blog post? It sounds like his work.

To say that Campbell's value is low because of front office whispers is even more ridiculous than saying that "he had no chance in DC". This is the NFL, where murderers, thugs, and drug addicts are welcomed back onto teams all because they look good on the field. Jason Campbell's play is why he has little value.

By the way, if they really have 4 or 5 teams interested, then Allen should be able to create some leverage.


Posted by: Jason10 | April 5, 2010 11:16 AM | Report abuse

@peoplearestupid1

Let me explain it to you: Quarterback is the most important position in football and head coach is the second most. We've significantly upgraded both. There is also the assumption that we will be adding a talented left tackle through the draft, and that the Eagles just took a big step back.

Posted by: Jason10 | April 5, 2010 11:20 AM | Report abuse

We don't know if McNabb offered anything to Brennan for his jersey number, but we're guessing they were able to come to a more amicable agreement than Ifeanyi Ohalete and Clinton Portis.

Posted by: zjfr2 | April 5, 2010 10:56 AM
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Give me your #, or I'll just take your roster spot... haha

Yeah, definitely something I see people talkin about is McNabbs' durability... but I think about how Andy Reid's system is flawed, they chuck the ball all over the field & probably run less than 30%... I GUARANTEE, we will be a lot closer to a 60/40 (pass/run) or 50/50 split & McNabb won't be running for his life as much or have as much pressure to get it done on his own because we will have a 2 or 3 headed monster in the backfield.

We just have to get the line fixed & we're pretty solid... I would not be surprised to see Flozell signed for depth at that LT position, if he doesn't find the deal he wants.

Posted by: tony325 | April 5, 2010 11:21 AM | Report abuse

Jason Campbell is not Peyton Manning or Drew Brees but he is a qb of starting caliber credentials.

Brett Favre looked like God this yr but looked washed up last season with New York. Tom Brady had an average line this yr and looked average himself. Steve young was a bust until he got traded to San Fran. Brad Johnson got kicked out of washington after a pro bowl and went to the SB with Tampa. Kurt Warner looked washed up his last season in st louis and then in new york but then went to a SB with arizona. What all these guys have in common is either the instability in the organization or the lack of talent around them at the current time.

JC clearly didnt have the organization or talent around him to be a franchise QB. From front office, to coach, to Lineman, rb and receiver we have been unequiped. Even our defense was worst at creating turnovers which gave him less opportunities to score.

He made mistakes but I think they were magnified more than other qb's because we did not have the talent to make up for it. Ask Mark brunell and Patrick Ramsey, offense hasn't been our forte.

We are about 4 yrs from being a superbowl team. We cannot compete with the top half of the NFL on either side of the line of scrimmage. And when I mean either side of the line of scrimmage I mean OL and DL. We are not even close to competing. We need starters and reserves and we just gave some more picks away.

Mcnabb is injury proned there is no way he could have taking the beating JC did and he wont even be able to take half the beating jason did.

Lastly, we have a short memory. JC fought all last year for a team and a front office that cant do the same.

Better JC doesnt end up like these guys: Ryan Clark, Brad Johnson and Antonio Pierce. Superbowl champs


Posted by: twenty-36-one | April 5, 2010 11:25 AM | Report abuse

Posted by: 1965skinsfan | April 5, 2010 10:38 AM | Report abuse

Portis isn't going anywhere unless the 'Skins cut him (and the team won't cut him -- yet, anyway -- unless he totally screws up). No team is going to trade for an aging, coming-off-a-major-injury RB who is guarranteed 6.4 large for next season.
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Posted by: League-Source | April 5, 2010 10:39 AM | Report abuse

So, you don't think that what other teams will be willing to offer for JC is influenced by those teams' perception of how he is valued by the 'Skins???

Posted by: rbpalmer | April 5, 2010 11:26 AM | Report abuse

Its all moot if the O line isn't fixed. The trade will be worthless because McNab wont be able to do much better than JC, and our 3 hopefully not over the hill RB's wont be able to be effective. This is plain basic football 101. We absolutely need a good LT, and a RT unless Shanny thinks he can get Heyer up to speed. For the running game to work well, I think we need a young quality guard with fresh legs also to mix it up inside.

Posted by: kenboy1 | April 5, 2010 11:41 AM | Report abuse

Everyone says the o-line is in shambles. But, Shanny knows what he has and will come with a new blocking scheme. This is new for everyone. And all the players will have to learn this new system.

I think shanny is building towards the 2011 season.

Posted by: digger76 | April 5, 2010 11:45 AM | Report abuse

I think this is best for Campbell though I don't think McNabb is the answer unless there is a good offensive line, better receivers, and a power back who can average like 25 carries a game. But this is good. The Campbell situation was handled fairly well in the end. He has a good salary, can make a new start, and the Redskins, in their own demented, chaotic way, will make one as well.

Posted by: isometruman11 | April 5, 2010 12:32 PM | Report abuse

I wish JC well - wherever he lands - he's been a class act and he too will be a Pro Bowl QB when he lands in a real football situation. I believe Portis and Haynesworth will also be dealt to the first suitor that will bite on them.

Posted by: AsstGM | April 5, 2010 12:33 PM | Report abuse

They still have leverage. This is a uncapped year. It costs the Skins nothing to hold onto JC well into the season. He would have value if a QB is injured at some point this year.

Posted by: anacostia85 | April 5, 2010 12:54 PM | Report abuse

package JC and CP to the Bills for a couple of 4th round picks and be done with it.

Posted by: 1965skinsfan | April 5, 2010 10:38 AM |

Its already been said and it is all that should be done, Time to move on. Mcnabb is a proven QB and still has some years in the tank. Trade those two and beef up the line, Get a talented WR and we should be talking playoffs. If Willie and Larry come into the season in shape and stay heatlthy who knows where we go but one thing is for sure we wont be laughed at this year. I think it was a good move.

Posted by: wizardsfan | April 5, 2010 12:58 PM | Report abuse

Redskin will get almost nothing for Campbell.. face it he's not a good QB.. everyone in the league knew it except some people here. I see Campbell freezing his butt off sitting on the bench in Buffalo.. Gee wonder if McNabb will still be his good buddy then???

Posted by: sovine08 | April 5, 2010 1:00 PM | Report abuse

We will be fine.. We got rid of our second round pick but I believe we trade down ne ways and get that second round pick back

Now we may have some draft day trades
1.Jason Campbell
2.Andre Carter
3.Carlos Rogers
4.Rocky Mac
5.Haynesworth
6.Landry

Thats the order I believe we trade the players I would of had Cooley up there but with Donovan I believe we keep Cooley and Davis..

Posted by: PardenMiSwage | April 5, 2010 1:04 PM | Report abuse

agree with Wise's take on the situation. The more things change, the more they stay the same.

Posted by: hobbes9 | April 5, 2010 10:32 AM

F Wise....

Like JReid....He's 100% in the tank for Campbell....

Campbell has not done for the Skins as McNabb has done for the Iggles, and doesn't deserve the same treatment. But, he will get it irregardless. BEcause he will get traded to a non-WCO team and maybe be able to battle for a Starter's role, if not, he'll be a solid back up and still getting paid. And have a fresh start.....

Posted by: 4thFloor | April 5, 2010 10:41 AM | Report abuse

Irregardless is not a word!

Yes, Wise is correct.

Posted by: mattphillips | April 5, 2010 1:16 PM | Report abuse

agree with Wise's take on the situation. The more things change, the more they stay the same.

Posted by: hobbes9 | April 5, 2010 10:32 AM

F Wise....

Like JReid....He's 100% in the tank for Campbell....

Campbell has not done for the Skins as McNabb has done for the Iggles, and doesn't deserve the same treatment. But, he will get it irregardless. BEcause he will get traded to a non-WCO team and maybe be able to battle for a Starter's role, if not, he'll be a solid back up and still getting paid. And have a fresh start.....

Posted by: 4thFloor | April 5, 2010 10:41 AM | Report abuse

Irregardless is not a word!

Yes, Wise is correct.

Posted by: mattphillips | April 5, 2010 1:16 PM | Report abuse

agree with Wise's take on the situation. The more things change, the more they stay the same.

Posted by: hobbes9 | April 5, 2010 10:32 AM

F Wise....

Like JReid....He's 100% in the tank for Campbell....

Campbell has not done for the Skins as McNabb has done for the Iggles, and doesn't deserve the same treatment. But, he will get it irregardless. BEcause he will get traded to a non-WCO team and maybe be able to battle for a Starter's role, if not, he'll be a solid back up and still getting paid. And have a fresh start.....

Posted by: 4thFloor | April 5, 2010 10:41 AM | Report abuse

Irregardless is not a word, and Wise is correct

Posted by: mattphillips | April 5, 2010 1:18 PM | Report abuse

Has anyone ever seen McNabb pass from flat on his back? Anyone ever see how he does with only 2.5 seconds to decide? Has he ever played behind a bad OLine? Don't expect the McNabb who spent a career behind good lines in Philly. Campbell plus two OLinemen would be far better than McNabb plus only one. Only if they sign a FA OLineman and draft a stud tackle with their first pick will they even be mediocre this year. And when even one OLineman goes down? Watch Donovan age before your eyes.

Posted by: dolph924 | April 5, 2010 2:03 PM | Report abuse

Irregardless is not a word, and Wise is correct

Posted by: mattphillips | April 5, 2010 1:18 PM | Report abuse

Dictionary.com =
Irregardless is a word that many mistakenly believe to be correct usage in formal style, when in fact it is used chiefly in nonstandard speech or casual writing. Coined in the United States in the early 20th century, it has met with a blizzard of condemnation for being an improper yoking of irrespective and regardless and for the logical absurdity of combining the negative ir- prefix and -less suffix in a single term. Although one might reasonably argue that it is no different from words with redundant affixes like debone and unravel, it has been considered a blunder for decades and will probably continue to be so.

That word drives me nuts. Wise is a hack. DMc has some wear on the tires. If we keep him upright he will be better than a weak QB class or any other available FA. Let Shanny find a later round gem - Pike, Skelton, etc. and groom under a good cat like #5 while he marinates on the pine for a couple of years. Shanny, Jr can start him.

Posted by: Holehoggin | April 5, 2010 2:07 PM | Report abuse

The Skins won't get more than a 5th round pick. Most teams prefer to draft their own projects vs. bringing in someone else's cast off.

For some reason it seems hard to admit for many fans but Campbell is just not a very good QB.

Posted by: skinsFan74 | April 5, 2010 2:37 PM | Report abuse

The Skins won't get more than a 5th round pick. Most teams prefer to draft their own projects vs. bringing in someone else's cast off.

For some reason it seems hard to admit for many fans but Campbell is just not a very good QB.

Posted by: skinsFan74 | April 5, 2010 2:37 PM | Report abuse

Of course GMs will base their evaluation on game tape etc. but they're not gonna give up more if they know the Redskins don't like him. It isn't about GMs basing their opinion of Campbell on what the Redskins think about him, but that they have to give little for Campbell since the Redskins have devalued him. If you don't get it, ya don't get it. It isn't BS just cause you don't understand it.

Posted by: thezapperdigital | April 5, 2010 2:47 PM | Report abuse

For those who need a Vet. QB who wants a fresh start. A second rounder this year and a 4th rounder next year!!

They want a 2nd round pick this year.

I think the 5th team is....DENVER!!! Orton is mot the man over there and he has a big arm for there system.

Posted by: Bigmon411 | April 5, 2010 2:50 PM | Report abuse

This organization has spent how many years taking a dump on Jason Campbell and now they're lamenting the fact that they can't even get a lump of sh!t for him?

But hey, I'm sure all the $nyder apologists are lining up to buy their Donavan McNabb jersesy which are now available for purchase at the Redskins website.

Posted by: VeloStrummer | April 5, 2010 4:54 PM | Report abuse

I dont think its a bad thing if he stays, considering how often McNabb gets injured. Let McNabb go down in wk 2 and all you same fans will be happy so see old average QB #17 on the sidelines to replace him rather than Rex Grossman. Hell, let McNabb have one of those bad games where he throws a pick six and loses a game and you same people would be saying we are no better off with him than we were with campbell. I know you fans, all the skins have to do is go 0-2 and you will be calling for McNabb, Shanny, Bruce and Snyders heads.

Posted by: ged0386 | April 5, 2010 4:56 PM | Report abuse

it's just that he has been publicly devalued because of the Redskins' previous efforts to trade him, their flirtation with Mark Sanchez last season and the fact that he didn't win much in Washington.

By Jason Reid | April 5, 2010; 10:24 AM ET

BS, Jason Reid, just pure BS.

Other GM's base their assessment of Jason Campbell on the way he plays, not on whether he was "publicly devalued," whatever that means. They have tape on this guy and they know what he can bring to their teams.

Posted by: League-Source | April 5, 2010 10:39 AM

My thoughts exactly.

Posted by: OintheSierras | April 5, 2010 6:16 PM | Report abuse

Dude, the Redskins didnt trade their 3rd rd pick this year. The gave it up to draft Jeremy Jarmon in the 3rd rd of the supplemental draft last summer.

Teams are desperate for a serviceable QB. Campbells stats last season and he grit he showed will make someone give up a 4th rd pick (hopefully) for his services.

Spent the day at Nats Stadium and most Phillu fans were upset about the deal. Not that they got rig of McNabb, but that he got traded here. They all seem to feel that he will hurt them as a Redskin, playing them twice a year

Posted by: jmurray019 | April 5, 2010 7:53 PM | Report abuse

I'd rather keep Campbell, and see what kind of picks can be acquired in exchange for Little Danny Snyder, Mike and Kyle Shanahan, Larry Johnson, and Donovan McNabb.

Maybe they could bring back a young Champ Bailey and the pick they robbed us of in the Portis trade?

Or here's a thought: how about an offensive lineman or five?

I'd say we should get draft picks for Ceratto, because of the damage he did, but everyone knows he's not worth anything to anyone, except Little Danny.

Posted by: DC2Dallas | April 5, 2010 8:29 PM | Report abuse

I wouldn't be surprised if the Skins continue to hold on to Campbell if other teams continue to low-ball for him. He's big, strong, mobile, tough, has 5 years of experience, and his play has improved every year. Plus, the health of any QB is at risk behind the Skins line as presently constituted. I doubt Campbell has reached his full potential -- maybe he's a late bloomer. A 4th seems too low. I wouldn't take less than a 3rd plus a conditional pick for him.

Posted by: dannykurland1 | April 5, 2010 10:36 PM | Report abuse

No one is giving a 2/3 rounder for JC. Take a fourth if you can get it, but we need to trade down to the mid 1st and pick up a 2 or 3 and grab a tackle there. JC, you are a nice guy but have had more chances than most to be a starting QB in this league.

Posted by: ar652 | April 6, 2010 8:25 AM | Report abuse

"Campbell's trade value is not very high, thanks in large part to how some in the organization have privately demeaned him throughout the league the past two seasons."

Put a name to that Jason Reid. Don't try and drop some unattributed bomb and then run.

Reid your comment is absurd at best. Regardless of what "unnamed Redskins officials" may have said, if a team sees something it likes it is going to act. Especially if it believes that player is under valued. And who are the Redskins that ANYONE in the league should listen to what they think? What's there record over the past 11 season?

Campbell has little value because he's not very talented. Why would anyone give up a second round pick for Campbell when they can draft a younger more athletic QB who has terrible mechanics (Teabow)? Why trade for Campbell, a QB who can't read defenses or make quick decisions, when you can sign another former Skins QB who can't read defenses or make quick decisions (Patrick Ramsey). The fact is the league is full of second rate talent available for the taking. How about Tavaris Jackson (restricted FA)? Kyle Boller, Marc Bulger, Troy Smith, Chris Simms, or Daunte Culpepper? Sure they either stink and/or they're washed up or unproven. But none is so much worse that a team would rather trade a second or third for Campbell, when they could just sign one of them.

I doubt that any team, with the possible exception of the Raiders (the Redskins of the West), will part with a pick higher than the mid/late fourth round for Campbell. And if that happens, it won't have anything to do with some loose tongues in the Redskins organization. It will be because the talent evaluators throughout the league looked at the tape and decided that, while a nice pleasant fellow, Jason Campbell is just not a very talented QB. Everyone in the NFL does their due diligence (except the Skins under Cerrato), nobody goes on word of mouth alone. Anyone who believes anything the contrary is a fool. It is all about money and risk.

Posted by: tkoho | April 6, 2010 9:28 AM | Report abuse

It's not that Campbell is totally devoid of talent. He has a strong arm and can make all the throws, personnel people and coaches say, it's just that he has been publicly devalued because of the Redskins' previous efforts to trade him, their flirtation with Mark Sanchez last season and the fact that he didn't win much in Washington.
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Campbell sucks.. and it's not the Redskins fault no one thinks he's good.. its his crappy play.. "he didn't win much in Washington." Gee... YOU THINK??? Heck Reid who has a man crush on Campbell doesn't think the Skins will get more than a 4th round pick... I doubt even that. Campbell is so bad he might end up in Canada...

Posted by: sovine08 | April 6, 2010 9:53 AM | Report abuse

Jason Reid continues with his passive/aggressive racism slants to all his Jason Campbell stories. Poor, poor Jason Campbell, he's been bad because the Team "privately" devalued him.

Posted by: sheik1 | April 6, 2010 12:54 PM | Report abuse

Put his adenoids in a bottle and trade them for a 5th Round

Posted by: ElYeah | April 6, 2010 1:41 PM | Report abuse

It is very apparent that once you give a guy to chance that person will succeed. Given the opportunity to be given a chance will really make a difference meaning the opportunity is important. Not wanting to stir up any quarterback contrevesary but if JC17 does not get traded and we keep him he will hold the history of the francise for most career systems having played under. Your going to pay the price either way if you keep him or deal him he could really make a difference. He will soon pay divivedends because having performed or not redskins have always had a host of quarterback in the stable and now we have a stable of runningbacks. Having listened and thought about all of the sports talk it seems as if we will have a competitve team just let the trades, draft picks and signings add up. The amount of money being payed to these players should have them really content to even be playing at this level. Try not to get confused with deja vu some of those veterans should be told. Like DM05 said strive to be in the weight room and keep it fresh and that should apply to all areas of life so you dont get bored. Living in this area of DMV has been very exciting for me even on the boring days and not being considered half the athelete in my early years. Just try to keep things new and do the fundamental aspects of playing ball. People play sports around here every day there is so much to pull from just pay attention to detail.

Posted by: dinkndunkjinglehiemersmits | April 6, 2010 3:13 PM | Report abuse

Another High Profile off season acquisition. A third w/o going to the playoffs. Who is going to block for McNabb. Who is going to play when he doesn't make it through the season.

Posted by: bonggong | April 6, 2010 3:21 PM | Report abuse

@ dinkndunkjinglehiemersmits | April 6, 2010 3:13 PM

What?

Posted by: tkoho | April 6, 2010 5:00 PM | Report abuse

In this draft he might be worth a 4th round pick. A better idea is to tade hime for a 2012 conditonal pick that could go as high a second round pick and not below a 5th round. You have wait two years but we might end up with a decent pick.

will that happen: no

a conditon pick next year might work also.
another 4th rounder this year will not hlp the team much.

Posted by: drpolarbear | April 6, 2010 5:13 PM | Report abuse

"But, he will get it irregardless..."

Posted by: 4thFloor | April 5, 2010 10:41 AM
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Regardless, a word. Irrespective, also a word. "Irregardless"=double negative and thus NOT a word.

That is all.

Posted by: hogmeister | April 6, 2010 5:39 PM | Report abuse

Campbell's trade value is low because he sucks. Only Jason Reid, Wilbon , and Spud2 ever thought he was any good.

Posted by: theBozyn1 | April 6, 2010 6:14 PM | Report abuse

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