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Jason Campbell's MRI Moved To 1:30 PM/Other Stuff

The QB was supposed to get evaluated at 10 am, but it was moved back. So we won't know the full extent of the injury until later in the afternoon. The hope around here was that it would be a three-week injury, but until they see the scope of the dislocated knee cap it's just an educated guess.

Shawn Springs (back) was scheduled to see another doctor. Pretty amazing what he did to play. I'll write about it more in the paper and in the Friday Afternoon H-Back, once I finish writing it.

Randy Thomas (triceps/elbow) was in good spirits and hoped that with a few more weeks to build up strength and range of motion that he would be able to play more against the Giants.

Also, a lot of you guys have asked me about the patches the Redskins are wearing for Sean Taylor. From what I have heard the NFL originally said there were rules against a team wearing a patch to commemorate a player, but after Dan Snyder called Commish Roger Goodell, I am told the Commish was completely on board with the idea. Not sure if the Redskins will continue to wear the patch all season, but am awaiting word on that.

Also, the team will continue to list Sean on all rosters and flip cards this season, and the organization also had some behind the scenes talks with the league to ensure Sean remained on the Pro Bowl ballot, from what I gather. Kudos to them for that.

Fred Smoot was having stomach and cramp problems and was very sick, with some saying he was throwing u[p blood at one point and on IVs. We'll get more info on that when Coach Joe speaks at 3.



By Jason La Canfora  |  December 7, 2007; 11:21 AM ET
 
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Comments

Fingers crossed for Soupy... come on, good news...

Posted by: NateinthePDX | December 7, 2007 11:28 AM | Report abuse

Hopefully good news that they pushed his doctor visit back. Maybe doing okay so in no rush to see the MD??

Posted by: NCICURN | December 7, 2007 11:31 AM | Report abuse

Thanks for the post JLC. Let's hope it is a week to week. But with this line I am not sure he should go back in this year.

Posted by: jm220 | December 7, 2007 11:32 AM | Report abuse

Great game - like the way Collins spread it around.

Posted by: RhumbLine | December 7, 2007 11:32 AM | Report abuse

Yeah, we've had more than our share of bad news, we need some good karma headed in our direction.

What did Thomas do to his elbow, I know he left the game, but never heard what he did?

Posted by: gregmarino88 | December 7, 2007 11:33 AM | Report abuse

Get Fred and Shawn healthy because our defense is holding this team together right now. I heard the NFL network interview with Shawn after the game. They were preparing to have him on the inactive list as there was no equipment in his locker when showed up at the stadium. He looked unbelievable out there. They only play you might have thought his injury held him back was on the touchdown. But at the same time, he had good position and Berrien made a great effort to stay inbounds. I don't think you could defend that play any better without risking having a force out which would have resulted in a TD anyway.

A couple of weeks to get Randy better for the Giants game? It's about 10 days that we have until then. JLC, is he really bad off. Also, what happened to Wade? Did the knee just stiffen up? Is there another tackle out there that we could sign? What's your assessment of Heyer's play last night?

Posted by: straub21 | December 7, 2007 11:36 AM | Report abuse

Hope Smooty's okay.

Posted by: freakzilla | December 7, 2007 11:38 AM | Report abuse

Everybody is beaten up at this point in the season. (Except Ethan Albright, who is kept in a glass case until a long snap is needed.)

My point is, we need all these dudes to man up. Ten days to go before we visit the Jints. Come on, you Redskins!

Posted by: NateinthePDX | December 7, 2007 11:38 AM | Report abuse

As long as ARE, Moss and Cooley are healthy ... we'll actually probably be ok with Collins.

He played well and ARE started making the kind of plays that we need him to make, big third down grabs, etc.

Anyone else see Anthony Mix bring down Hester twice last night? He's 6-5, any chance we'll see him get some more looks in the passing game this year? We really need a big man down near the goal line.

Posted by: trink | December 7, 2007 11:39 AM | Report abuse

My gut says that Heyer is a player, and this season he has got a lot good playing time. Maybe he gets his azz handed to him a bunch, put that could pay off down the road...

I say he is Joe Jacoby 2.0 (after thought on draft day, 10 year starter at a variety of positions) and when Grimm is HC he is gonna love this dude....

Posted by: chrislarry | December 7, 2007 11:40 AM | Report abuse

The extended time between games sure will be appreciated.

Someone at WaPo needs to give Jasno a day or two off - right after the MRI.

Looks like ProFootballTalk.com may have jumped the gun with that Adam Schefter report that campbell is out for a month with a "dislocated patella tendon".

Anyone out there with a medical background who can confirm that a dislocated patella tendon isn't even possible, it's either a dislocated patella or a ruptured patella tendon?

As long as it's a dislocated patella (similar to a dislocated shoulder, but in the knee), Campbell could come back in a few weeks - if the patella tendon is ruptured, he's looking at 6 months to a year of rehab.

Posted by: mugamack | December 7, 2007 11:45 AM | Report abuse

2007 has been a learning year for Campbell. Silver lining in this injury? Put Campbell in the booth with Al Saunders and let Campbell see the game from that perspective. He'll learn a lot that doing that as well. May make him a better QB in the long run.

Posted by: zcezcest1 | December 7, 2007 11:46 AM | Report abuse

CL, agreed about Heyer, but only if that guy gets in the weight room and doesn't come out. He needs to get bigger, stronger, and he needs to get a Sellers-esq mean streak going.

Hated hearing we have the lightest line in the league.

Posted by: gregmarino88 | December 7, 2007 11:46 AM | Report abuse

trink-

Yeah I was at the game and noticed those great hits by Mix. He is big and fast...really got down the field quickly. It's interesting how the skins line up on kickoff coverage, with 4 or 5 guys bunched up on the left edge of the field before the kick.

Another unsung hero from last night in my opinion is Frost. I almost got into it with a couple of drunk skins fans behind me who were booing his line-drive, out of bounds punts, I guess because they were ugly. But those punts were still like 40 yards, and most importantly away from Hester. That was key in my opinion.

Posted by: smarty_pants | December 7, 2007 11:47 AM | Report abuse

Mugamack--You are correct. The patella is dislocated or the tendon is ruptured (or both), but you don't have a dislocated tendon. When I heard that on the game last night, I just figured it was Gumball screwing up, again.

Posted by: NCICURN | December 7, 2007 11:49 AM | Report abuse

Put Campbell in the booth with Al Saunders and let Campbell see the game from that perspective.
Posted by: zcezcest1 | December 7, 2007 11:46 AM
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JC may throw Saunders out the front of the booth for not giving him the type of play calls that he's giving to "I need some more vodka in that" Collins.

Posted by: NCICURN | December 7, 2007 11:52 AM | Report abuse

What is w/ all of this Grimm as Head Coach talk?

Posted by: Soup17 | December 7, 2007 11:52 AM | Report abuse

muga;

you cannot dislocate a tendon. you can rupture a tendon.

you can tear the tendons b/c of a dislocation (as I did with my shoulder) and it requires surgery and a lengthy recovery.

I have a great picture of my arm bone missing the tendons. It is nice and pink since it should have tendon attached to it.

Posted by: Zebraskins | December 7, 2007 11:53 AM | Report abuse

re: Thomas' injury, the two Jasons are reporting that it's an elbow, not a reinjury of the triceps, and no info on how long yet...
The Two Jasons

Posted by: daggar | December 7, 2007 11:54 AM | Report abuse

I'd like to see the RBs in patterns more. They are both capable and probably more effective.

Posted by: zcezcest1 | December 5, 2007 06:25 PM

Did I call it or what? Get Portis in the open field and he goes for 50. Send Betts on a quick pattern down field and its a game clinching TD. I am soooooooooo underpaid (and yes, it IS all about ME:)

Posted by: zcezcest1 | December 7, 2007 11:55 AM | Report abuse

The reasons for Grimm are endless soupy7....have been through a million times...

Posted by: chrislarry | December 7, 2007 12:00 PM | Report abuse

So ESPN, Fox News, and ProFootballTalk have it wrong.

Leave it to Jasno's peeps to scoop the media: it's not a dislocated patella tendon.

If Soup is sidelined for two games, and then is 100%, but Collins wins the two games convincingly... who starts the playoff clinching game against the Cowboys?

Posted by: mugamack | December 7, 2007 12:00 PM | Report abuse

Just a guess here, but I suspect the thinking was this last week. Why not play Chicago on short rest? The very short week benefits the home team more than usual. I think Gibbs figured they might be good enough on emotion to beat Buffalo and Chicago at home. They couldn't move the Buffalo game anyway. But I also think Gibbs saw the 10 days off following this game as a chance to heal a bit more than usual. And this team needs some healing time, both mentally and physically. Turns out not moving the game was a good call.

Posted by: zcezcest1 | December 7, 2007 12:01 PM | Report abuse

Question -- Is Todd Collins for real or the second coming of AJ Feeley? Because he did a nice Tom Brady impression

Posted by: zcezcest1 | December 7, 2007 12:03 PM | Report abuse

Grimm makes perfect sense to succeed St. Joe... regardless of whether Joe stays with the org or not....

Posted by: dick | December 7, 2007 12:04 PM | Report abuse

WAS IT ME OR WAS REED DOUGHTY PLAYING WELL LAST NIGHT. tHIS KID SEEM STO STICK WITH HIS ASSIGNMENTS AND KEEP HIS HEAD IN THE GAME. I SAY GIVE THIS KID A SHOT AT STRONG SAFETY NEXT YEAR.

Posted by: jjwilson312003 | December 7, 2007 12:10 PM | Report abuse

Z, I think Collins has been in this system so long, and knows it so well, that he could run it in his sleep.

Posted by: gregmarino88 | December 7, 2007 12:11 PM | Report abuse

Hated hearing we have the lightest line in the league.

Posted by: gregmarino88 | December 7, 2007 11:46 AM


Especially coming from Bryant Gumbel, who has the lightest loafers in any broadcast booth.

Posted by: freakzilla | December 7, 2007 12:12 PM | Report abuse

I thought all the DBs played pretty well, but most importantly the Bears QBs were under pressure the whole time, which has been the key. Throughout the year, the DBs have played pretty well for the 4-5 seconds you expect them to cover someone; it's been when the QB has time to look and that extra second to have someone break coverage that we've given up 1st down passes.

Posted by: daggar | December 7, 2007 12:14 PM | Report abuse

zcezcest1,

I agree with you on the running back catching more. This could lead to a better running game in the end if our RBs catching the ball and getting downfield will force defenses to respect that aspect of the offense. Bears defense was great against the run last night and so was ours.

Posted by: straub21 | December 7, 2007 12:15 PM | Report abuse

Question -- Is Todd Collins for real or the second coming of AJ Feeley? Because he did a nice Tom Brady impression

Posted by: zcezcest1 | December 7, 2007 12:03 PM


Hope not. Feeley followed up the NE game with a 4 INT stinker in his 2nd game against Seattle. If Collins throws 4 picks in NY we will all be hating on him I am sure. Nice to have at least 1 more meaningful game though.

Posted by: cdubb | December 7, 2007 12:19 PM | Report abuse

I agree with more passing to the rbs, i seem to remember that when we did make our playoff run we were a screen pass offense, and i think we were 10th in offense for the year too. I dont want to do it all the time but would be nice to run 3-4 more a game.

Posted by: SAK2 | December 7, 2007 12:22 PM | Report abuse

Smoot went down and Springs was playing hurt.

So the Skins won with the following DBs playing a lot. Eubanks, Doughty, Torrence and Landry. Landry is the most experienced of the group and he's a friggin rookie!! In the immortal words of Butch Cassidy, "Who are those guys?"

Posted by: zcezcest1 | December 7, 2007 12:30 PM | Report abuse

Hated hearing we have the lightest line in the league.

Posted by: gregmarino88 | December 7, 2007 11:46 AM

And a totally bogus stat at that... we're ten lbs. more than New England (10 lbs. more with Heyer, 1lb. less with Wade), and 25 lbs. more than Denver.
You know which team has a huge line? Miami. They beat us by over 100 lbs. You want to trade? Redcoat can probably broker that deal.
might be a little bored at lunch here...

Posted by: daggar | December 7, 2007 12:30 PM | Report abuse

Hate to say it but there's a reason TC looked so good last night...preparation. He knew where to go with the ball, and the TEMPO was good for the 1st time this year.

All this to say that...JC is an average quarterback. He COULD be a good quarterback and that is saying something here in DC. But JC has had 2 solid years to learn al's offense...and the tempo and understanding are not there. Much is said for the coordinators that he's had in his career...BUT, what that means is the coordinators that have had to come in "box fresh" just like JC have had to DUMB DOWN offenses for HIM.

JUST LOOK AT THE FILM...what an offense last night, nothing spectacular, but it worked.

JUST LISTEN TO MANY OF THE COMMENTS, on this blog. IE "where did this offense come from," Why can't we run this offense with JC, Why can't al call plays like that for JC....

TC is not a good quarterback, and neither is VT, but they prepare...and you have to know what to do with the ball despite the opposing 11 in this game.

Posted by: dbussjd | December 7, 2007 12:33 PM | Report abuse

RBs catching passes has always been part of Saunders offense, but he hasn't used it much in DC. I don't understand why. After last night, I really don't understand!!!

Sometimes, it takes a situation with 'nothing to lose' to bring out the best. I'm wondering if Saunders had that attitude last night.

Posted by: zcezcest1 | December 7, 2007 12:35 PM | Report abuse

The NFL should definitely let us wear the "21" patch for the balance of this season--at the very least. The enormity of the tragedy and the fact that Sean Taylor is still leading in the Pro Bowl balloting should together make this an incredibly easy decision to make.

Posted by: jfs06473 | December 7, 2007 2:38 PM | Report abuse

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