Odds, Ends and Injuries

From Paul Tenorio:
Jim Zorn introduced one of his quirky quarterback drills during the second practice, working a drill in which a quarterback stands in the middle of a circle formed by other quarterbacks and avoids large pilates balls thrown at him.

"I just call it dodge ball and that is what we are doing," Zorn said. "We are trying to get the QB to actually move his feet. If we had a really tiny ball the QB's would just avoid with their upper body but with those bigger balls you have to actually move out of the way and sometimes that is what it feels like in the pocket. You are looking downfield but you feel something coming at you and you actually physically have to get out of the way."

Zorn said he had several other "fun" drills he would bring out during training camp.
"I have all kinds of little drills," he said. "You will see some more stuff out there, maybe not now, but maybe in full gear, where I need full gear to protect the QB a little bit. It [the slip n' slide] will come, that will be one of them. We have to learn how to slide and it keeps them healthy."

Other observations:

Kedric Golston went down in the first practice and was carted off the field. Team officials say it is a lower ankle sprain and that Golston will not participate in practice tomorrow. The defensive tackle will be re-evaluated on Monday for OTA's.

Randy Thomas has been limited during this minicamp and filling in for him on the starting line during 11 v 11 in the afternoon practice was free agent signee Tavares Washington.

Tackle Jon Jansen took some snaps at center and said it was his first time doing so since the Spurrier era. Jansen said it was just to get comfortable in case he was ever needed for spot duty.

Redskins great Don Warren was out at practice yesterday, observing along the sideline along with Hall of Fame receiver Steve Largent.

Vernon Fox left the afternoon practice and team officials say he has swelling in his left knee.

OTAs will be held Monday, Tuesday and Wednesday next week, then end until June 2. There will be 11.

JReid's last post of the day:
Throughout his career as an NFL player and coach, new offensive coordinator Sherman Smith said he has found that hard work is the only path to success. But while some coaches are in their offices until 4 a.m. during the season, Smith prefers to complete his work earlier, he said.
"I'm a morning person, I'm an early person, so I'll get here early," Smith said. "But right around 9, 10 o'clock [at night], now the lights start to fade a little bit. But we're going to do what we have to do to get the job done. If we're doing what we're supposed to do, you shouldn't be here at 3 or 4 o'clock in the morning. It just doesn't make sense. You can organize and do it a certain way.
"Now some guys, that's just the way they do it. They believe you put 20, 22 hours in a day. If that's what it takes for them to do it, then that's what it takes, but I've been part of programs that have been successful where you don't have to put in 22 hours. You put in the time, but you don't have to go to that extreme."

By Cindy Boren  |  May 3, 2008; 7:12 PM ET
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Posted by: Keyskonnection | May 3, 2008 7:17 PM | Report abuse

What a joy it is to read Redskins Insider again. Reports about the team without the bitterness that has dominated this blog.

Posted by: PowerBoater69 | May 3, 2008 7:22 PM | Report abuse

Injuries? Now Paul Tenorio has gone as negative as Jasno.

Look, dude, stay positive. List the players who are well.

Posted by: Anonymous | May 3, 2008 7:23 PM | Report abuse

Don't be bringing that weak shti around here or you'll get called on it.

Now where's that afternoon review, followed by Hornitos with Zornitos.

Posted by: Stats Guy | May 3, 2008 5:43 PM

The afternoon review is at the top of the page you fargin genius. ROFLMAO

Posted by: Typing Police Internal Affairs | May 3, 2008 6:24 PM

What a shock - Genius Boy was wrong again, since HERE is the afternoon review/wrap-up.

Posted by: Stats Guy | May 3, 2008 7:24 PM | Report abuse

I don't think Eckers is his last name anymore I thinks its his middle name because when ever we read about him it always says:

Tyler Eckers Groin

When did he get married and why did he choose to take Mr./Mrs Groin's last name?

Should we start call him Tyler E. Groin or maybe Tyler Eckers-Groin?

Any opinions?

Posted by: What invited to the wedding! | May 3, 2008 7:27 PM | Report abuse

Oh and the typing police might want to take some lesson himself. Cuz you cant spell sh!t

Hilarious when people call people out for typing and then mistype.

Posted by: Typing Police Internal Affairs | May 3, 2008 6:24 PM

Nope, it wasn't mistyped, Brainchild. I used the local standard method for evading the blog's clever little filtering tool. It's always easy to pick out the newbies and the DanBots when this issue comes up, so which kind are you? My guess is you're a DanBot, since newbies tend to be smarter than you are.

Have a pleasant evening, my unpleasant little friend. And remember - keep studying those stats until you get them right.

Posted by: Stats Guy | May 3, 2008 7:31 PM | Report abuse

I think they drafted Tyler Eckers replacement. Dude's groin is gone.

Posted by: Anonymous | May 3, 2008 7:31 PM | Report abuse

Lot's of LOVE on today's blog!!

Read an article re Blache. Sounds like we should be fine this year on D. Seems like a solid coach. Loved what he had to say about press conferences.

http://www.iht.com/articles/ap/2008/05/03/sports/FBN-Redskins-Gregg-To-Greg.php

Posted by: Curzon417 | May 3, 2008 7:33 PM | Report abuse

Rofl - believe what you want to believe Stats Guy

We all know your a blind idiot who missed the afternoon update on the LAST post and is trying to cover up with your own stupidity.

Loser lol

Posted by: Stats guy | May 3, 2008 7:33 PM | Report abuse

Look, dude, stay positive. List the players who are well.

Posted by: | May 3, 2008 7:23 PM

LOL. Now that was funny. Well done.

Posted by: Stats Guy | May 3, 2008 7:34 PM | Report abuse

We all know your a blind idiot who missed the afternoon update on the LAST post and is trying to cover up with your own stupidity.

Posted by: Stats guy | May 3, 2008 7:33 PM

Are you the one who's bragging about his spelling acumen? You probably meant to type this:

We all know your [you're] a blind idiot who missed the afternoon update on the LAST post and is [are] trying to cover up with [for] your own stupidity.

Three in one sentence is not good.

Posted by: Anonymous | May 3, 2008 7:38 PM | Report abuse

Keep back-peddling Stats guy! ROFLMAO

Got any more excuses.

Your corrected someone spelling and you got you call out for your own spelling!

you look like an idiot because of it.

...and now a bigger idiot cuz you won't own up to it.

Posted by: Back to football, Ms. Spellcheck | May 3, 2008 7:38 PM | Report abuse

Rofl,

Seriously Stats Guy there is nothing people hate more on a blog than a spell checker....oh wait a grammar checker!

Posted by: Keep digging your hole | May 3, 2008 7:41 PM | Report abuse

Sorry, guys; I had to update the top of this, so give it a read. Lots happening here with the Derby and editing stuff for the paper. Les will have a column on the offensive line, JReid has a piece on Greg Blache and Paul has notes leading with the punters. Those'll be up on the site later.

Posted by: Cindy | May 3, 2008 7:42 PM | Report abuse

Love reading the blog again...fresh air! No more nattering nabobs of negativism. Yay! Great stuff.

Posted by: yeah! | May 3, 2008 7:45 PM | Report abuse

Football Stats?......yes, please.

Typing Stats?.....no, thank you.

Too the point-

I agree Curzon, I think were in pretty good hands with Greg Blache.

Posted by: Anonymous | May 3, 2008 7:45 PM | Report abuse

"...But right around 9, 10 o'clock [at night], now the lights start to fade a little bit. But we're going to do what we have to do to get the job done. If we're doing what we're supposed to do, you shouldn't be here at 3 or 4 o'clock in the morning. It just doesn't make sense. You can organize and do it a certain way."


Gosh dangit! I wish I'd heard that 25 years ago!

Posted by: J. Gibbs | May 3, 2008 7:46 PM | Report abuse

"...and Paul has notes leading with the punters."


Call me crazy but I'm looking forward to this competition! I'm a person that likes Frost but I like that we drafted a punter as well.

Frost was pretty good dropping the ball in side the 10 but we all know his consistency can be atrocious.

Posted by: Anonymous | May 3, 2008 7:53 PM | Report abuse

I don't think Eckers is his last name anymore I thinks its his middle name because when ever we read about him it always says:

Tyler Eckers Groin

When did he get married and why did he choose to take Mr./Mrs Groin's last name?

Should we start call him Tyler E. Groin or maybe Tyler Eckers-Groin?

Any opinions?

Posted by: What invited to the wedding! | May 3, 2008 7:27 PM

The humor bombed, but please keep trying.
You lost me when you got the dude's name wrong. It's Ecker, not Eckers.

Posted by: chris larry | May 3, 2008 7:59 PM | Report abuse

Wow, chris larry you are such a party-pooping-stick-in-the-mud!

I laughed my arse off when I read Tyler E. Groin!

Grow a friggin sense of humor, dude.

The only one here who is never funny is you.

Your just another one of JLC's sewing circle stepford wives!

Posted by: Anonymous | May 3, 2008 8:07 PM | Report abuse

Oh and I think I prefer the Tyler E. Groin version....reminds me of Alfred E. Newman lol

Posted by: Anonymous | May 3, 2008 8:13 PM | Report abuse

7:59 was not me...i suck at spelling why would i correct others?

Posted by: chris larrY | May 3, 2008 8:14 PM | Report abuse

Who called th cops?

We have the spelling police, the typing police, the grammar police, special agent chris larry actually thinks he's the humor police.

Posted by: I smell a Narc | May 3, 2008 8:16 PM | Report abuse

ecker, eckers. doesn't matter, the guy should be cut soon so we can move ahead with cooley, fred davis and yoder.

cindy's post sticks out the like malcolm kelly sore thumb draft pick. some semblance of the english language among the rest of the jibberish being spewed.

dog fighting and horse racing are not in the same ballpark, area code, universe whatever. ones main objective is to kill or maim another animal. the other unfortunately has things like what happened today where they have to euthanize the horse in a manner so it won't suffer. not hanging, electrocuting, beating etc. just beyond comprehension if you can not seperate the 2.

Posted by: Anonymous | May 3, 2008 8:16 PM | Report abuse

I think Stat guy is impersonating chris larry lol

He's the only "policing" the blog today.

Posted by: Anonymous | May 3, 2008 8:22 PM | Report abuse

I wish Jasno would come back so he could find a way to get rid of any good news and fabricate some BS.

The people who follow Jasno on here are completely idiotic. They think he is God and only reports the truth.

If you think the Skins are wrong 100% of the time, you are an f'n moron.

Same if you think they are right 100% of the time.

RI regulars (like Chris Larry) = sheep

Chris Larry = d**che

Posted by: Anonymous | May 3, 2008 8:26 PM | Report abuse

I thought we determined that chris larry = Donkeys & Cabbage

Posted by: Anonymous | May 3, 2008 8:29 PM | Report abuse

Wow, so many great nicknames today!

Rosie O'Canfora

Tyler E. Groin

Donkeys & Cabbage(cloak & dagger is going to be jealous)

Posted by: Go Skins! | May 3, 2008 8:32 PM | Report abuse

Anon,
It's a blog. I don't come here for Jasno; I come here to mingle with my fellow Redskins fans (whom, might I add, are a cool bunch), and I'm sure that that comradory (eat it, spelling and grammar police) is what draws a lot of us regs back to the blog day in and day out.

Jasno gets it wrong sometimes; he gets it right sometimes; he can be negative about the Skins; we don't always get the "insider" track we'd hope for... but really, who cares? It's a blog. It's a communal watering hole where we shoot the SJK and such shabingus. If you can't dig, sorry, but if you think its all about aimless loyalty to Jasno (whom I like, personally), you're wrong.

Lovvvvvvvvve you.

Posted by: TDawg | May 3, 2008 8:36 PM | Report abuse

Largent's a mole for the 'Hawks.

Beware.

Posted by: B. Lloyd | May 3, 2008 8:54 PM | Report abuse

Happy Cinco De Mayo !

Posted by: buenos dios | May 3, 2008 9:42 PM | Report abuse

Corona + Magaritas = Reskins Insider Blog

*hic*

Posted by: buenos dios | May 3, 2008 9:44 PM | Report abuse

Hampton U closest NFL team is Skins.
They have a stud DE in Marcus Dixon 64- 284 lbs. and we don't get him to sign as a FA?

But Dallas does??

What was our FO doing??
First of all I couldn't believe we didn't draft him in Rd 7!!!

Looking at the guys we drafted in Rd 7 do they have nearly the "upside" that Dixon has?

I just don't get it, Vinny.

Posted by: RedskinRay1 | May 3, 2008 9:58 PM | Report abuse

First of all I couldn't believe we didn't draft him in Rd 7!!!

Looking at the guys we drafted in Rd 7 do they have nearly the "upside" that Dixon has?

I just don't get it, Vinny.

Posted by: RedskinRay1 | May 3, 2008 9:58 PM


He didn't get drafted for a reason. Using a 7th round pick on someone no one else is going to draft is kinda silly don't you think.

Point being if they wanted him they would have got'em and I believe we've got more than a half dozen DL on our team right now with more upside than him.

Logically speaking of course.

Posted by: Dr. Spock | May 3, 2008 10:13 PM | Report abuse

hey ray how are you?

Posted by: noone from tampa | May 3, 2008 10:20 PM | Report abuse

On a very weak wireless signal, that's not my home IP address so I can sneak in a couple of posts.

Posted by: noone from tampa | May 3, 2008 10:25 PM | Report abuse

I think the draft was great for the offense. The DL will be OK this year, I worry about the LB group though. 2 years ago it was the biggest problem area and what caused the big slip.

Posted by: noone from tampa | May 3, 2008 10:27 PM | Report abuse

Ray agree with you on the local players, we should be able to sign guys from the local area schools and NOT Dallas

Posted by: noone from tampa | May 3, 2008 10:29 PM | Report abuse

well that's it for me, hopefully one day can blog regularly again. This is the only site on WaPo I have an issue with.

Posted by: noone from tampa | May 3, 2008 10:31 PM | Report abuse

noone,

I think we will pick up a LB or two once cuts are made after June 1. Sounds like Rocky will be starting (crossing fingers) on opening day, so with a couple picked up after 6/1 and final cuts, we should be OK.

Posted by: Curzon417 | May 3, 2008 10:34 PM | Report abuse

Another great article on Blache, this one by J Reid. Hope we can keep him as DC for a few years.

Depending on who is pick up post June 1, and how we draft next year, the skins should be in the playoff mix consistently.

I for one think that Zorn will end up being a danm good coach*. He is surrounded by some good coaches for his first year, and will only get better and more confident in the years to come.

I was optimistic when Gibbs was rehired and was disappointed with his conservatism play calling and lack of willingness to play younger guys.

*W/Dan as the owner you just never know how long a coach is going to be supported. Most coaches need a minimum of 3 years to prove their ability or get the team they want under them. I hope Zorn is given a real chance.

Posted by: Curzon417 | May 3, 2008 10:55 PM | Report abuse

If we had a really tiny ball the QB's would just avoid with their upper body but with those bigger balls you have to actually move out of the way

This Rabach work-around is really getting ridiculous

Posted by: SMACK | May 3, 2008 10:57 PM | Report abuse

The completely different direction this blog has taken recently has been refreshing.

Posted by: Anonymous | May 3, 2008 11:06 PM | Report abuse

The completely different direction this blog has taken recently has been refreshing.

Posted by: | May 3, 2008 11:06 PM

You've got to realize that a lot of this has to do with the fact that there is a minicamp and there is real news to report. Some of it has to do with the fact that the guys who are reporting it don't seem to be agenda-driven.

Posted by: Anonymous | May 3, 2008 11:42 PM | Report abuse

Sure are a lot of geeks up here

Posted by: JBL | May 3, 2008 11:44 PM | Report abuse

Paul Tenorio and Jason Reid had some nice threads yesterday and today posted by Cindy.

The comments section today was the worst I have seen since I started reading RI in January. With some good Redskins news most of today's bloggers posted venomous attacks at Jasno and other bloggers resulting in just over 200 post for today.

After reading the today's comments I thought that this must be how iggles blogs must look. Sure was sad to see so many Skins fans (allegedly) treat each other this way.

Now I am not a long time blogger here, but anticipate being the next one drawing all of the vitriol from all of the "friendly" Skin's fans.

Posted by: Curzon417 | May 4, 2008 12:07 AM | Report abuse

Yeah, what he said!

Posted by: Hugh Gerection | May 4, 2008 12:10 AM | Report abuse

Hello, JBL!

And hello, anonymous friends at 11:06pm and 11:42pm...

Speaking of being "agenda-driven", I'm really glad that those who take exception to Jason La Canfora's blogging -- and his reporting on the Skins in general -- have been able to stay on message and continue the steady drumbeat of criticism, even in his absence!

Some people, while appreciative of the fact that the Washington Post provides a blog with information and opinions on the Redskins, do not like the way Jason La Canfora has been running this blog. I think this has been made abundantly clear!

In fact, it had been made abundantly clear long before the past few days, during which there has been Real News (minicamp) reported exclusively by people who are not Jason La Canfora.

But keep the criticism of Jason La Canfora coming anyway, even though he's not contributing to these threads! If the goal is to prove a point about Jason's "axe-grinding" by grinding an axe about it, mission accomplished! :)

Cheers,
Nate in the PDX

Posted by: Anonymous | May 4, 2008 12:28 AM | Report abuse

"...But right around 9, 10 o'clock [at night], now the lights start to fade a little bit. But we're going to do what we have to do to get the job done. If we're doing what we're supposed to do, you shouldn't be here at 3 or 4 o'clock in the morning. It just doesn't make sense. You can organize and do it a certain way."


Gosh dangit! I wish I'd heard that 25 years ago!

Posted by: J. Gibbs | May 3, 2008 7:46 PM

LOL Thats great stuff

Posted by: Leevi | May 4, 2008 12:45 AM | Report abuse

Here's an article that is not from redskins.com that is positive of Vinny and the Skins.

http://fredericksburg.com/News/FLS/2008/052008/05042008/376675

Posted by: Curzon417 | May 4, 2008 12:50 AM | Report abuse

Great finish by NO in game one tonight. Chris Paul is a baller!

Posted by: Curzon417 | May 4, 2008 12:56 AM | Report abuse

Here's an article that is not from redskins.com that is positive of Vinny and the Skins.

http://fredericksburg.com/News/FLS/2008/052008/05042008/376675

Posted by: Curzon417 | May 4, 2008 12:50AM
- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -

This just in: The Free Lance Star, a newspaper in Fredericksburg, VA has been purchased by Dan Snyder's Red Zebra Corporation.

Posted by: Credible Sources | May 4, 2008 3:29 AM | Report abuse

Here's an article that is not from redskins.com that is positive of Vinny and the Skins.

http://fredericksburg.com/News/FLS/2008/052008/05042008/376675

Posted by: Curzon417 | May 4, 2008 12:50AM
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This just in: The Free Lance Star, a newspaper in Fredericksburg, VA has been purchased by Dan Snyder's Red Zebra Corporation.

Posted by: Credible Sources | May 4, 2008 3:31 AM | Report abuse

So this is what real "Redskins Insider" blog entries are supposed to look like - GREAT WORK!

JLC has been caught up in personal vendetta and bias.

I hope this wakes him up - or he leaves for good. These updates have been 1000% better than anything he's EVER given us.

GOOD RIDDANCE to JLC! HIT THE ROAD FOR GOOD! SEE YA!

Posted by: YESSS! | May 4, 2008 4:02 AM | Report abuse

I *heart* Chris Larry.

Posted by: Chia Pet | May 4, 2008 5:55 AM | Report abuse

I also *heart* Nate in the PDX.

Posted by: Chia Pet | May 4, 2008 5:56 AM | Report abuse

I *heart* Redcoat as well.

Posted by: Chia Pet | May 4, 2008 5:58 AM | Report abuse

Did I forget to mention Cindy?

I *heart* Cindy the most.

Posted by: Chia Pet | May 4, 2008 5:59 AM | Report abuse

I forgot to mention curzon.

I *heart* him too.

Posted by: Chia Pet | May 4, 2008 6:00 AM | Report abuse

I also *heart* talent evaluator.

Why so scarce these days?

Posted by: Chia Pet | May 4, 2008 6:01 AM | Report abuse

I *heart* Redskin Willie too.

Why so scarce?

Posted by: Chia Pet | May 4, 2008 6:02 AM | Report abuse

I *heart* Stumptown Chris.

Portland isn't the same without you, bro.

Posted by: Chia Pet | May 4, 2008 6:03 AM | Report abuse

I *heart* TDawg.

Fullbacks rule, you feel me?

Posted by: Chia Pet | May 4, 2008 6:05 AM | Report abuse

I *heart* 4th.

That guy is O.G all the way.

Posted by: Chia Pet | May 4, 2008 6:06 AM | Report abuse

I *heart* Old School.

(despite the long winded posts)

Posted by: Chia Pet | May 4, 2008 6:07 AM | Report abuse

I *heart* SFskin.

because she's a girl.

Posted by: Chia Pet | May 4, 2008 6:08 AM | Report abuse

I even *heart* sicwidit.

Grumpy, but hot.

Posted by: Chia Pet | May 4, 2008 6:10 AM | Report abuse

To heck with all you who bash JLa.

I *heart* JLa.

Posted by: Chia Pet | May 4, 2008 6:11 AM | Report abuse

Ch Ch Ch Ch Chia!

Posted by: Chia Pet | May 4, 2008 6:12 AM | Report abuse

Dcsween!

I *heart* dcsween.

Posted by: Chia Pet | May 4, 2008 6:13 AM | Report abuse

Anon posters?

Not so much...

Posted by: Chia Pet | May 4, 2008 6:14 AM | Report abuse

I *heart* Chia Pet!

Secretively, of course.

Posted by: Anonymous | May 4, 2008 6:42 AM | Report abuse

I *heart* Chia Pet even more than he *hearts* me.

Posted by: Anonymous | May 4, 2008 7:10 AM | Report abuse

"Jim Zorn introduced one of his quirky quarterback drills during the second practice, working a drill in which a quarterback stands in the middle of a circle formed by other quarterbacks and avoids large pilates balls thrown at him.
"

He stole this from the Madden Video games........

Posted by: 4th | May 4, 2008 7:42 AM | Report abuse

He stole this from the Madden Video games........

Posted by: 4th | May 4, 2008 7:42 AM

"Stole" is such a harsh word. Another way to put it: He learned this from one of the greatest coaches of all time.

Posted by: Spinmeister | May 4, 2008 7:47 AM | Report abuse

Redskins are through. The Eagles, Giants and Cowboys have already plugged their Redskins games in the win column. Rookie coach, lousy organization, and a nutty owner that has his goons pat down season ticket holders looking for peanuts in the shell make for a miserable season.

Posted by: FormerSeasonTickerHolder | May 4, 2008 8:46 AM | Report abuse

I posted this in thw wrong blog post:

I forgot to mention curzon.

I *heart* him too.

Posted by: Chia Pet | May 4, 2008 6:00 AM

You got Curzon on the wrong team buddy....

Posted by: 4th | May 4, 2008 7:53 AM

Redskins Minicamp: Day 2
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------

John Keim
WarpathInsiders.com May 3, 2008

John Keim reports on his observations from the Redskins' second day of mini camp under Jim Zorn.

...Jim Zorn broke out the dodge ball game, using large Pilates balls to throw at his quarterbacks. One would stand in the middle with a football as if in the pocket. The other quarterbacks, and Zorn, would stand in a circle and alternate throwing a ball at him.

Zorn's first toss of the ball hit Jason Campbell.

"The idea is to get out of the way," he said to Campbell.

The best one in the group? Campbell. When the balls flew at him, he dodged them well and kept his eyes and head up. Others weren't as good; Sam Hollenbach ducked almost every time. Todd Collins was OK.

...Receiver Billy McMullen has looked pretty good at times; does a nice job driving off defenders.

...Gotta love Joe Bugel. At one point he yelled at rookie Devin Clark to, "Get your ass of the ground and run!"

...Corner Eddie Jackson had a nice pick of a Collins floater in zone coverage.

... Kedric Golston was carted off the field and has an ankle sprain. He won't practice tomorrow and there's no word yet when he'll return. The OTAs start Monday.

...Steve Largent, Zorn's best friend, attended practice this afternoon. At one point, Zorn told the receivers, "See that guy over there in the green shirt and khaki shorts? He's in the Hall of Fame." He said the wideouts couldn't believe it.

...Receiver Devin Thomas missed practice for personal reasons.

...Lorenzo Alexander has worked exclusively with the defense thus far.

...Rookie Malcolm Kelly made a leaping catch near the sideline, prompting Zorn to yell out, "Nice job!" and walk over for a hand slap. Santana Moss yelled out to Kelly, "Thataway MK!"

...Rock Cartwright did not like hearing Justin Tryon's comments after the draft that he guarantees he could get the ball to the 50 every time on a kick return. Danny Smith laughed at it, telling reporters every team hopes he's back there. In other words, pipe down, rook.

...Tryon is shorter than 5-foot-9, perhaps by an inch. Yours truly is a shade over 5-foot-9 - we'd like to think 5-10 - but Tryon does not see eye to eye with us.

...Zorn is very big on tempo, constantly yelling out to "get it going" to the offense.

...Rookie Rob Jackson has a little burst off the edge. You'll see it when he goes against young linemen, but vets won't have a problem with him early on because he does not seem all that strong or diverse in his moves. That's why he was a low-round pick.

...LaRon Landry would have decked Santana Moss on one pass, but had to pull up. He let Moss know what would have happened.

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Story URL: http://was.scout.com/2/752291.html


Posted by: 4th via scout.com | May 4, 2008 8:13 AM

http://was.scout.com/2/752116.html

Posted by: 4th via scout.com | May 4, 2008 8:16 AM

Posted by: 4th | May 4, 2008 8:49 AM | Report abuse

So many hypocrites...it's OK for Jason to call it like he sees it, but don't dare express your point of view if you think Jason sucks and someone else could do a better job.

Posted by: Anonymous | May 4, 2008 9:39 AM | Report abuse

nate and chia pet, the same person. would have never thunk it.

Posted by: interesting..... | May 4, 2008 10:54 AM | Report abuse

we should have greg blache sit down with all the people who keep crying about no DL draft picks. he is great....

"You don't worry about what you want, you make do with what you have," Blache said. "You can try and establish that you'd like to have something and if it comes, fine. But if you don't [get it], you can't sit around crying and worrying about what you don't have.

"We have some very talented people regardless of their age. They compete at a high level. They are capable of winning in this league. They proved it last season. Yeah, we'd like to get some younger players and we do have some younger players that we are going to try to infuse into the program. But you can find football players other than in the first round. A lot of guys on our football team that were fifth-, sixth-, seventh-round players, or some guys that were undrafted free agents, can contribute. It's just a matter of finding guys with the talent, the desire, and putting in the time coaching them. That's why they call us coaches. They don't call us interior decorators."

Posted by: Anonymous | May 4, 2008 11:28 AM | Report abuse

Patches O'Zorn?

"If you can dodge an exercise ball you can dodge a pass rusher."

At least he wasn't throwing wrenches.

Posted by: mtnskinsfan | May 4, 2008 11:32 AM | Report abuse

Hmm, not me, interesting. I too have been trying to decipher who Chia Pet is.

anonymous friend at 11:28am, I understand what you're saying, and you're right of course but Blosh himself says it right there, "Yeah, we'd like to get some younger players..." I was led to believe we would get some younger players on the D line, and everybody up here agreed (in the mock drafts/wish lists/maps people posted, such as), and I remain mildly perplexed that we chose not to do so in free agency or before the seventh round of the draft. So sue me for "crying" about this.

Blosh can do it, yes he can. If Blosh can't do it, no-one can. Incredibly comforting that we have Byoogs on one side of the line and Blosh on the other. Cause for hope, right there.

-Nate in the PDX

Posted by: Anonymous | May 4, 2008 11:40 AM | Report abuse

Wasnt the last guy that said you didnt have to put in that much time to coach a horrible failure?

Not liking Sherman saying that..lol

Posted by: D | May 4, 2008 11:44 AM | Report abuse

"He stole this from the Madden Video games........"


Did you ever stop to think where Madden video games got it....yea they probably stole from Zorn or another coach.

Posted by: Anonymous | May 4, 2008 11:46 AM | Report abuse

Remember when Rosie O'Canfora left and he said there wasn't going to be much to report for a while anyway?

Wow, amazing how they found a ton of things to report as soon as he left! Shocking!

Posted by: Tyler E. Groin | May 4, 2008 11:50 AM | Report abuse

D, I remember when Spurrier made fun of Jim Haslett (he pronounced it "HAZE-lit") and his long work days, sleeping in the office or whatever it was.

We lost to the Saints that year.

-Nate in the PDX

Posted by: Anonymous | May 4, 2008 11:52 AM | Report abuse

Tyler E. Groin, that's some exemplary axe grinding! How's your anti-vendetta vendetta going, dude?

Maybe the recent spate of news is because a minicamp is occurring! And this happened to coincide with Jason La Canfora's bereavement leave! How cool of you to connect the dots for us! Thanks, bro! It is truly shocking!

-Nate in the PDX

Posted by: Anonymous | May 4, 2008 11:55 AM | Report abuse

You can't spell 'Relaxo' without 'relax.'

-Nate in the PDX

Posted by: Anonymous | May 4, 2008 12:04 PM | Report abuse

I *heart* you all, too. I'm about to put up a post with news. Stay alert. Drink some coffee.

Posted by: Cindy | May 4, 2008 12:05 PM | Report abuse

Nate,

I don't see why you're perplexed, even mildly. I think this has been explained to death up here. I can understand why you might not agree, but there have been many logical explanations.

1. Someone posted a Pat Kirwan analysis of the sacks and TDs in the Dallas, Philly, and Giants games last year showing why WR was a bigger need than D-Line.

2. The D was much stronger last year than the O. O should have received priority.

3. Jasno had a long shopping list of needs -- nearly as many needs as draft picks. We hit most of them and only deviated from his list with two selections -- TE and P (which were potentially the Redskins' biggest value picks in the draft.) We only "doubled up" at two positions -- WR and DB.

4. Zorn is reported to have said that he didn't think Merling was worth a first round pick and that, after the first round, there were no more difference makers. He said the people available were not as good as the ones he already had.

Maybe I'm just too gullible, but I'm buying it. This wasn't our year to upgrade the D-Line. We upgraded WR, TE, P. And we have some prospective DBs, one of whom may pan out. But we missed on DL and LB, at least in the draft.

Later, we'll acquire a few late-career stand-ins and maybe a guy or two when the rosters are cut down. But to have done other than what we did would have been to try to fit my round peg into someone's square hole. It just wouldn't go (although it might be fun to try).

Posted by: talent evaluator | May 4, 2008 12:05 PM | Report abuse

Not this Tavares...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tavares_(band)

-Nate in the PDX

Posted by: Anonymous | May 4, 2008 12:05 PM | Report abuse

t_e, where you been? You've been so quiet lately. I feared the worst, like a troubling onset of "work" or something awful like that. Good to see you up here.

I'll shut up about the D line. I really will :)

-Nate in the PDX

Posted by: Anonymous | May 4, 2008 12:07 PM | Report abuse

Oh, and in other news....I learned from the New York Times that a company is marketing Sex Panther cologne. Sixty percent of the time, it works every time.

http://www.sex-panther.com/

Posted by: Cindy | May 4, 2008 12:08 PM | Report abuse

Where is Jim Haslett now?

Neither one was much of an NFL head coach, so they're proof that both method can fail.

While others have proven both methods can succeed.

Gibbs succeed staying up all night....back in the 70's and 80's. The process has been streamlined a lot over several decades by technology alone.

Sherman Smith is right, you don't have to work 22 hour days to be successful. If this concerns you than you are a fool. It is called organization and execution.

Posted by: Anonymous | May 4, 2008 12:10 PM | Report abuse

nate,

Posting on RI is my work. But I've had a dispute with the Post over my pay. Like Ballmer with his bid for Yahoo, I had to withdraw my offer until they met me half way.

I can't reveal the details, but I will say that I'm now one of the five best paid bloggers up here. And, I have incentive clauses in my contract. I'm sure my deal is not as sweet and yours or dcsweet's, but it will keep me motivated.

Posted by: talent evaluator | May 4, 2008 12:11 PM | Report abuse

I hope the Post cans La Canfora on this beat and reassigns him to something he actually enjoys doing. Put him on hockey or soccer where he belongs and where he will be happy.

The dude hates American football and D.C. sports in general.

Get an actual reporter to replace him, who will call the Skins out when they F up, but also give them credit where it is due, and stay neutral when necessary.

Posted by: Anonymous | May 4, 2008 12:11 PM | Report abuse

Good luck to R Doughty's son. Big fan of Reed and wish him all the best for his son.

Looks like the offense was clicking today!

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10:15 a.m. ET
Reed Doughty

Reed Doughty's son has fallen ill and he has been excused from practice.

Doughty's son Micah was born Aug. 30, 2006, but developed kidney problems. Micah received a kidney transplant earlier this year.

Let's hope it's not a setback for child.


10:30 a.m. ET
11-on-11 Work

In a quick-moving practice, the Redskins wrapped up the three-day mini-camp with a spirited 11-on-11 session.

Tryout tight end Jason Goode pulled in a pass from Todd Collins on the first play. Goode, from Maryland, has made a good impression during camp, but he faces a crowded situation at tight end.

Devin Thomas caught a slant pass in stride from fellow rookie Bret Meyer. Thomas weaved his way downfield, showing great form.

Second-year wide receiver Burl Toler has had a solid camp. He pulled in a pass in front of Byron Westbrook.

Maurice Mann, another young wide receiver, hauled in a pass from Jason Campbell. Mann played for Zorn in Seattle and has familiarity with the West Coast offense.

Chris Cooley made a nice grab of a Todd Collins pass, beating linebacker Rian Wallace. Cooley shifted the ball to his left arm, just as Wallace tried to punch the ball loose.

Lined up in the slot, J.T. Tryon was used to on a blitz, coming in untouched to pressure Jason Campbell. Tryon was late, though. Campbell got off the pass and completed it to James Thrash.

Posted by: Curzon417 | May 4, 2008 12:19 PM | Report abuse

Tyler E. Groin, that's some exemplary axe grinding! How's your anti-vendetta vendetta going, dude?

Maybe the recent spate of news is because a minicamp is occurring! And this happened to coincide with Jason La Canfora's bereavement leave! How cool of you to connect the dots for us! Thanks, bro! It is truly shocking!

-Nate in the PDX

Posted by: | May 4, 2008 11:55 AM


Boo hoo Nate,

What was his excuse for having nothing to report for the 2 month before that?


Oh, sorry, I mean what was YOUR excuse for him?

JLC(Rosie O'Canfora) is a writer that can't type, can't spell, and can't report!

Brilliant when you combine it with bitter and misinformed commentary.

Posted by: Tyler Ecker-Groin | May 4, 2008 12:22 PM | Report abuse

Lined up in the slot, J.T. Tryon was used to on a blitz, coming in untouched to pressure Jason Campbell. Tryon was late, though. Campbell got off the pass and completed it to James Thrash.

Posted by: Curzon417 | May 4, 2008 12:19 PM


He could have gotten Campbell if he'd thrown a large beach ball.

Posted by: talent evaluator | May 4, 2008 12:27 PM | Report abuse

"Tryout tight end Jason Goode pulled in a pass from Todd Collins on the first play. Goode, from Maryland, has made a good impression during camp, but he faces a crowded situation at tight end."

Sounds like the bugler is blowing taps for Tyler Ecker, whose only future is in posting up here.

Posted by: talent evaluator | May 4, 2008 12:29 PM | Report abuse

Lined up in the slot, J.T. Tryon was used to on a blitz, coming in untouched to pressure Jason Campbell. Tryon was late, though. Campbell got off the pass and completed it to James Thrash.

Posted by: Curzon417 | May 4, 2008 12:19 PM


He could have gotten Campbell if he'd thrown a large beach ball.

Posted by: talent evaluator | May 4, 2008 12:27 PM

He was Tryon, but those beach balls are bigger than him.

Posted by: Anonymous | May 4, 2008 12:30 PM | Report abuse

beepbeep

Posted by: Cindy | May 4, 2008 12:31 PM | Report abuse

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