Shifting Gears...

We need a new thread...interesting discussion yesterday about religion, although I'm crushed to learn that you guys hate Cyn.

Coach Joe is back in the news...It looked like such a simple move when Gibbs went back to his eponymous racing company...Oh, sure. He's got 18-year-old Joey Logano, who is billed as NASCAR's next superstar (will he have to sit on the bench for two years, learning the Al Saunders driving manual?), but now Tony Stewart is making like Michael Jordan at Verizon Center and leaving JGR in a cloud of dust. "While this moment is bittersweet, we're parting on good terms and we know that each of us has benefited greatly from the other," J.D. Gibbs said in a statement.

And now, back to fubball. And coverage. Some of you have moseyed over to Steinbog...Give him a read.

Otherwise, there's nothing percolating at the moment. To answer a question from the other day, I would expect draft picks to sign next week. It's pretty typical for them to be unsigned at this point. I wouldn't worry.


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Awesome, thanks for keeping us in new threads, Cindy.

I *heart* Cyn.

Posted by: Nate in the PDX | July 9, 2008 1:50 PM | Report abuse

Is this the Rooney Rule thread?

Posted by: P Diddy | July 9, 2008 1:57 PM | Report abuse

Toid!

Posted by: Dik | July 9, 2008 2:05 PM | Report abuse

Ooooh, the Rooney Rule....

Posted by: Cindy | July 9, 2008 2:05 PM | Report abuse

And, thanks, Nate! I'm feeling better.

Posted by: Cindy | July 9, 2008 2:08 PM | Report abuse

I coulda sworn that said Rodney Rule.

That's where you have to leave enough room in the front so you can reach in and adjust your shorts, right?

Posted by: Dik | July 9, 2008 2:09 PM | Report abuse

"...Oh, sure. He's got 18-year-old Joey Logano, who is billed as NASCAR's next superstar (will he have to sit on the bench for two years, learning the Al Saunders driving manual?)"

By Cindy Boren | July 9, 2008; 12:34 PM

HA! Great stuff!

Posted by: lighty brothers | July 9, 2008 2:20 PM | Report abuse

No Dik thats the roomy rule. The Rooney Rule is that all child actors must eventually become crazy old grouches and do spots on 60 min.

I also agree with PDX.

Posted by: 35332 | July 9, 2008 2:23 PM | Report abuse

On another matter, Barry Svrluga is in the office right now and he wasn't as eagerly accepting of his new nickname (The Loogs or Loogs) as I had hoped. We're gonna have to rough him up a little.

Posted by: Cindy | July 9, 2008 2:35 PM | Report abuse

Au contraire - I LOVE Cyn!

- Dorf (in Timbuktu)

Posted by: Psychic Hotline | July 9, 2008 2:37 PM | Report abuse

Dorf! What are you doing in Timbuktu???

Posted by: Cindy | July 9, 2008 2:38 PM | Report abuse

On another matter, Barry Svrluga is in the office right now and he wasn't as eagerly accepting of his new nickname (The Loogs or Loogs) as I had hoped. We're gonna have to rough him up a little.

Posted by: Cindy | July 9, 2008 2:35 PM

With a name like that, how could he pass on a nickname like "B-Luga"? (As in Beluga, as in whale?)

Posted by: Anonymous | July 9, 2008 2:39 PM | Report abuse

I could understand it if he hated B-Luga...I think that if he doesn't embrace this, we're going to have to eat his liver with some fava beans and a nice kee-anty. You know how we roll up here.

Posted by: Cindy | July 9, 2008 2:41 PM | Report abuse

I think the Steinbog did a great job with his break down, but a smile begin to spread across my face when he started comparing the WaPo blogs.

I like Steinbog. I really do. But his threads get NO love. Kind of threw some manure at Jasno and Ivan Carter (Wizards Insider).

They may not post 5 threads a day, but their "post a comment" section is always substantially larger than the Bog.

Posted by: lighty brothers | July 9, 2008 2:43 PM | Report abuse

I could understand it if he hated B-Luga...I think that if he doesn't embrace this, we're going to have to eat his liver with some fava beans and a nice kee-anty. You know how we roll up here.

Posted by: Cindy | July 9, 2008 2:41 PM

Send him a memo from the new Head Brocolli explaining that everyone has to have a nickname in the New Post and he's The Loogs. He'll take to the name immediately. Yours is Cyn City, same as it's always been.

Posted by: talent evaluator | July 9, 2008 2:44 PM | Report abuse

you cant just go with Luger?

Posted by: Alex35332 | July 9, 2008 2:52 PM | Report abuse

Everyone needs a nickname, we just hired another Alex at my office so I need to come out with a knew nickname for this job. I have one guy call me, Ziceter, but I don't see it catching. In my life I have also heared Zeeseman, Zeesemister, Alexander the almost as great, and Jewbaca.

Posted by: Alex35332 | July 9, 2008 2:56 PM | Report abuse

Come on, Cindy, he's only giving us one freakin' vowel to work with. (All due respect to his heritage and so forth.)

Loogs is better than Loogie, right?

Maybe Luge (pronounced like that winter Olympic sport)?

Every time I hear the name Barry, I think of Barry White, Marion Barry, and that skit on "The State" in which a slimy swinger guy introduces himself as "Barry, Sagittarius." So what I'm saying is, I'd be happy to refer to the new beat reporter as "Barry, Sagittarius."

We have GOT to get this resolved by training camp.

Also, who from WashPo are going to Canton for HOF weekend? The three beat guys plus Steinbog plus one of the columnists? It's gonna be a big weekend, right?

Posted by: Nate in the PDX | July 9, 2008 2:56 PM | Report abuse

Why don't you just call him alphabet.

Posted by: scampbell1975 | July 9, 2008 2:57 PM | Report abuse

Luger is very solid. I was happy with Cyn until everyone turned against it on the last post.

Posted by: Cindy | July 9, 2008 2:57 PM | Report abuse

"One B, B-A-B-A-R."

"That's two B's."

"Yeah, but not right next to each other, that's what I thought you meant."


I realize that Svrluga has two count'em TWO vowels. Still, not a lot. That's a 5:2 consonant to vowel ratio.

Posted by: Nate in the PDX | July 9, 2008 2:59 PM | Report abuse

Or you could name him after that stupid UGA mascot, Roadkill.

Posted by: scampbell1975 | July 9, 2008 2:59 PM | Report abuse

How about Vanna?

Posted by: scampbell1975 | July 9, 2008 3:00 PM | Report abuse

It would be interesting to see how many pages of playbook Al could make out of a 500-mile left turn. Although the misdirection plays could be entertaining.

Posted by: groundhogdayguy | July 9, 2008 3:01 PM | Report abuse

My nickname at my first stint at UK was spiderwoman. I got it for climbing on the lab benches and all over the place in the lab in order to retrieve stuff on the top shelves. Being shorter than 5' 1" makes it necessary to do some climbing, which I wasn't shy about.

I've also been told my ghost will haunt my old school's bio building until the end of time because I was in there almost continuously.

Posted by: Karen | July 9, 2008 3:02 PM | Report abuse

Also, who from WashPo are going to Canton for HOF weekend? The three beat guys plus Steinbog plus one of the columnists? It's gonna be a big weekend, right?

Posted by: Nate in the PDX | July 9, 2008 2:56 PM

Didn't you read the STeinbog? No travel money to cover the Redskins -- they're all going to a baseball game.

Posted by: talent evaluator | July 9, 2008 3:03 PM | Report abuse

I feel like this plan is coming together nicely:
1) Get Svrlugian nickname resolved by training camp (even though he'll be in Beijing);
2) Get Alex's nickname resolved pronto (hey, it could be Pronto!)
3) Send some people to HOF weekend. (At the moment, it's the two Jasons and Wise.)

Posted by: Cindy | July 9, 2008 3:03 PM | Report abuse

scamp, you may be the most pathetic blogger. You just can't let the UGA thing go.

No need to respond to me unless you want the last word. I am running out to do a few things and will not be able to read any posts.

Posted by: Adam | July 9, 2008 3:04 PM | Report abuse

Nicknames? For a name I can't pronounce? I got Barry. But how do you pronounce his last name "serv-LUG-ra"?

But whatever I guess.

Loogie served.

Posted by: ?mAN | July 9, 2008 3:08 PM | Report abuse

cl, Manny is 2-3, 2 runs, 2 rbi's so far. He seems to be coming out of his funk, and might be getting dialed in.

Posted by: Greg | July 9, 2008 3:08 PM | Report abuse

So is Luger the third man in on Skins beat, or is someone off....I am confused....

Posted by: chris larry | July 9, 2008 3:08 PM | Report abuse

We have travel money to cover the Redskins; we can't blow it all on Aug. 2, though. We allocate funds the first of every year and that money will be there, no matter what...you have to be somewhat conservative in case the team really starts rolling and you want to add a person.
What we don't have a lot of, because of the Olympics, is people. We lose Les and Loogs to the Games of Summer.

Posted by: Cindy | July 9, 2008 3:11 PM | Report abuse

scamp, you may be the most pathetic blogger. You just can't let the UGA thing go.

No need to respond to me unless you want the last word. I am running out to do a few things and will not be able to read any posts.

Posted by: Adam | July 9, 2008 3:04 PM


you can't throw rocks at the throne and expect to not take a lashing with the cat-o-nine-tails, Adam. Stay here and wait for his response. No excuses.

Posted by: blog cop 330567 | July 9, 2008 3:13 PM | Report abuse

"Being shorter than 5' 1"..."

How's the air down there?

j/k

Posted by: david lame | July 9, 2008 3:17 PM | Report abuse

As an avid Nats TV watcher (To obtain a good sleep), the problem is, you don't know any of these guys.

The past few years, I knew most of them. This year, I am only familiar with 2 or 3 that are currently playing at the moment.

In conclusion, the Lerners will be worst than Angelos and Snyder combined. They aren't worried about winning championships. They're worried about profits. I bet they turn a profit this year due to the very low payroll they have.

Thanks MLB with sticking us with these guys.

Posted by: 4th | July 9, 2008 3:18 PM | Report abuse

I think it would be great to send a bunch of hamster bloggers along to give the fan boy opinion. I mean, Jason and Jason (sounds like a law firm) are great for high quality unbiased reporting, and the columnists are awesome at the in depth analysis. But I need to read a few more articles with random insertions of SKINS RULE!!!!!, and WE ARE GOING TO THE SUPERBOWL!!!!!!

There are far too few uses of CAPS LOCK & exclamation points in the post's articles now days. I hate to say it Cindy, but as the head of that sports section I think the blame falls squarely on you.

Posted by: Alex35332 | July 9, 2008 3:21 PM | Report abuse

That will not happen because I hate capital letters and, more to the point, I am but a lowly worker in the beehive that is sports.

Posted by: Cindy | July 9, 2008 3:27 PM | Report abuse

how can one slurp manny but hate bellichick? they are the same ahole personality playing in the same town. one cheats and is arrogant as hell, the other loafs half the time and fights teammates or the travelling secretary.

Posted by: Anonymous | July 9, 2008 3:29 PM | Report abuse

David Lame: The air down here isn't the best. In all seriousness, I've noticed that when there's a smoke fog from cigarettes, I'm so short that my head is right in the middle of it. If I was about a good half foot taller, it wouldn't be so bad.

Posted by: Karen | July 9, 2008 3:29 PM | Report abuse

scamp, you may be the most pathetic blogger. You just can't let the UGA thing go.

No need to respond to me unless you want the last word. I am running out to do a few things and will not be able to read any posts.

Posted by: Adam | July 9, 2008 3:04 PM


you can't throw rocks at the throne and expect to not take a lashing with the cat-o-nine-tails, Adam. Stay here and wait for his response. No excuses.

Posted by: blog cop 330567 | July 9, 2008 3:13 PM

Thanks blog cop. I'll wait for his return though. It's more fun to toy with the mice than to bat at the air.

Posted by: scampbell1975 | July 9, 2008 3:33 PM | Report abuse

I think Barry's nickname should be -

Svrl

(Pronounciation optional - or varied!)

Posted by: charlie | July 9, 2008 3:33 PM | Report abuse

No one cares about the Olimpics do they? Personally I think we need to compleatly overhaul the olimpic games. Here is what I would do.

1. No more "sports" with judges giving raitings. Its only a sport if there is a clear scoring system that cannot change off personal bias. If we keep them fine, but don't waste my TV space with them.

2. More focus on the cooler sports. I never can find archery or fensing or any fighting on TV durring the olimpics. But seeing some asshat prancing on a mat with a ribbon, easy.

3. Bring back the musical, poetry, theater parts of the olimpics like the greeks had.

4. Do them nude.

Posted by: Alex35332 | July 9, 2008 3:34 PM | Report abuse

Svrl, as in swirl.....I kinda like it.

Posted by: Cindy | July 9, 2008 3:34 PM | Report abuse

I like the swirly suggestion, or maybe it was just swirl, but I like it.

Posted by: scampbell1975 | July 9, 2008 3:36 PM | Report abuse

Barry's nickname is Lugz

Posted by: Great One | July 9, 2008 3:36 PM | Report abuse

Does he resemble any manner of yard rodent...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4ikH9ZRcF2Q

Posted by: scampbell1975 | July 9, 2008 3:38 PM | Report abuse

In that case, only let Swirly cover the opening and closing ceremonies and the women's floor exercises.

Posted by: Anonymous | July 9, 2008 3:40 PM | Report abuse

scamp is blog cop

I am starting to agree that scamp is the most pathetic with this little masquerade.

scamp = fake nate?

Posted by: Stating the Obvious | July 9, 2008 3:40 PM | Report abuse

Karen

Up here

on the bright side if they ever add the limbo to the Olympics you are a sure gold medalist

Posted by: Great One | July 9, 2008 3:41 PM | Report abuse

That will not happen because I hate capital letters and, more to the point, I am but a lowly worker in the beehive that is sports.

Posted by: Cindy | July 9, 2008 3:27 PM

How can you hate capital letters? Every sentance begins with them and every proper name.

Posted by: Alex35332 | July 9, 2008 3:42 PM | Report abuse

4. Do them nude.

Posted by: Alex35332 | July 9, 2008 3:34 PM

I would set the Tivo to watch Dara Torres swim nude.

I would also set the Tivo to any other channel when Phelps (or any other man) was swimming nude.

Posted by: Anonymous | July 9, 2008 3:43 PM | Report abuse

Wailua Wheat Ale with Passion Fruit, by Kona Brewing.

Posted by: Beer of the Week | July 9, 2008 3:43 PM | Report abuse

Look they are pro-athleats, no matter what they look good.

Posted by: Alex35332 | July 9, 2008 3:48 PM | Report abuse

Alex - Maybe your new nickname should be "Spell Check" (or "Spellicheck" for that certain sports feel).

Posted by: Webster | July 9, 2008 3:51 PM | Report abuse

Alex, maybe your nickname should be The Stickler.

Posted by: Cindy | July 9, 2008 3:54 PM | Report abuse

Ya the office PC doesn't do spellcheck on the web like my Mac does at home. Than again I don't really care, its the 21st century and as a videographer its my job to slowly kill the written word.

Posted by: 35332 | July 9, 2008 3:55 PM | Report abuse

And now for something completely newsy: Trent Dilfer has retired.
As you were...

Posted by: Cindy | July 9, 2008 3:56 PM | Report abuse

HA!

Posted by: Alex35332 | July 9, 2008 3:57 PM | Report abuse

Which will you kill off first: the written word or the Olympics?

Posted by: Cindy | July 9, 2008 3:57 PM | Report abuse

Dilfer = 1 super bowl ring
Marino = 0 super bowl rings

Posted by: Dilfer > Marino | July 9, 2008 3:58 PM | Report abuse

Too bad I always had respect for Dilfer. What are the chances Jimbo gets him on to help teach JC? I always heard Dilfer was good with taching M.Hasselback in SEA

Posted by: 35332 | July 9, 2008 3:59 PM | Report abuse

Well if I kill of the written word first than the press will be less able to complain about not having the Olympics.

Posted by: Alex35332 | July 9, 2008 4:01 PM | Report abuse

scamp is blog cop

I am starting to agree that scamp is the most pathetic with this little masquerade.

scamp = fake nate?

Posted by: Stating the Obvious | July 9, 2008 3:40 PM


I thought you were leaving Adam? No masquerade here, I own up to my inadequacies.

And now for something completely newsy: Trent Dilfer has retired.
As you were...

Posted by: Cindy | July 9, 2008 3:56 PM

Trent Dilfer was still playing?


Posted by: scampbell1975 | July 9, 2008 4:02 PM | Report abuse

More News: I retired. Officially. Well, sorta kinda. I'm coming back. No, I'm retired. I'm playing again. I'm done, no regrets. Man, I can't wait to play this season.

Posted by: Brett Favre Beans | July 9, 2008 4:03 PM | Report abuse

and for the record i am not killing off the olympics, just fixing them to improve raitings and entertainment value.

Posted by: Alex35332 | July 9, 2008 4:07 PM | Report abuse

Dilfer = 1 super bowl ring
Marino = 0 super bowl rings

Posted by: Dilfer > Marino | July 9, 2008 3:58 PM

* Sigh *

Posted by: Redcoat | July 9, 2008 4:07 PM | Report abuse

I love the Olympics....but nude could be interesting. But I would feel bad for the sprinters....

Posted by: chris larry | July 9, 2008 4:08 PM | Report abuse

And the high jumpers

Posted by: scampbell1975 | July 9, 2008 4:09 PM | Report abuse

"Skippy, which candidate are you supporting to spearhead your energy program?"

Same as always. Skippy sporting Harold Stassen for Precedent with Donald Kucininich's Hot Wife as Secretary of Skippy's Spearhead.

Fondly,

Skippy

Posted by: Skippy | July 9, 2008 4:10 PM | Report abuse

Not watching the wrestling either.

Posted by: scampbell1975 | July 9, 2008 4:10 PM | Report abuse

4. Do them nude.

Posted by: Alex35332 | July 9, 2008 3:34 PM

Promise me you're NOT including the spectators?

Posted by: Redcoat | July 9, 2008 4:11 PM | Report abuse

And the high jumpers

Posted by: scampbell1975 | July 9, 2008 4:09 PM

As someone who "Fosbury Flopped" in their younger days, I'd have to agree.

Posted by: Redcoat | July 9, 2008 4:12 PM | Report abuse

What about the long jump?

Posted by: Alex35332 | July 9, 2008 4:12 PM | Report abuse

Would the Olympics be nude in summer AND winter? Just wondering....
What annoys me about them is how they've been packaged into a two-week reality series. I honestly watch only the last 10 minutes each night.

Posted by: Cindy | July 9, 2008 4:13 PM | Report abuse

Redcoat,
I would not force it on the spectators but hey if they are over 18, free is free.

Posted by: Alex35332 | July 9, 2008 4:14 PM | Report abuse

Redcoat,
I would not force it on the spectators but hey if they are over 18, free is free.

Posted by: Alex35332 | July 9, 2008 4:14 PM

Understood, but when they all sit down it's going to sound like a huge round of applause!

Posted by: Redcoat | July 9, 2008 4:16 PM | Report abuse

I did not think about that, nude winter games, well I would need a Doctors opinion. I mean clearly not in the Hocky, thats crule and dangerous.

Posted by: Alex35332 | July 9, 2008 4:17 PM | Report abuse

I honestly watch only the last 10 minutes each night.

Posted by: Cindy | July 9, 2008 4:13 PM

It sounds like we've just found the perfect sports-related program for our next minibingus!!

Posted by: Redcoat | July 9, 2008 4:17 PM | Report abuse

Cyndy I must out chick you on the Olympics, I eat the soap opera stuff up. Plus me and the wife can watch together without bloody death matches over the remote...

Yes America, I am a sap!

Posted by: chris larry | July 9, 2008 4:22 PM | Report abuse

I appreciate the list of things to do, and I will do my darnedest to welcome Barry, Sagittarius to the blog via Beijing, but me and my loser friends, you know, we gotta get tickets to Aerosmith. Top priority of the summer.

Posted by: Nate in the PDX | July 9, 2008 4:23 PM | Report abuse

CL, careful that may hurt the crowdnoise cred you have worked up.

Posted by: 35332 | July 9, 2008 4:25 PM | Report abuse

I appreciate the list of things to do, and I will do my darnedest to welcome Barry, Sagittarius to the blog via Beijing, but me and my loser friends, you know, we gotta get tickets to Aerosmith. Top priority of the summer.

Posted by: Nate in the PDX | July 9, 2008 4:23 PM

Party at the moon tower?

Posted by: scampbell1975 | July 9, 2008 4:27 PM | Report abuse

It's okay to be a chick now and then, Chris Larry, esp. for luv.

Posted by: Cindy | July 9, 2008 4:27 PM | Report abuse

Definitely don't want to see the "Naked Bus Hijacking" event...

http://www.abc2news.com/news/local/story.aspx?content_id=3033e4bd-8dea-45d7-a0db-c5fa61ddaef3

- 4-12

Posted by: Anonymous | July 9, 2008 4:28 PM | Report abuse

CL, careful that may hurt the crowdnoise cred you have worked up.

Posted by: 35332 | July 9, 2008 4:25 PM

flippy loves lindi applebum's "crab nose" blob!

Posted by: flippy | July 9, 2008 4:29 PM | Report abuse

Party at the moon tower?

Posted by: scampbell1975 | July 9, 2008 4:27 PM

Thing I like about these high school girls: I get older, they stay the same age.

Posted by: Nate in the PDX | July 9, 2008 4:32 PM | Report abuse

Thing I like about these high school girls: I get older, they stay the same age.

Posted by: Nate in the PDX | July 9, 2008 4:32 PM

Best line of the whole movie. Launched a subpar movie career.

Posted by: scampbell1975 | July 9, 2008 4:34 PM | Report abuse

Cyndy you are scrappin it up over on the Sports Bog. Defended yo turf, kickin azz...I love it!

Posted by: chris larry | July 9, 2008 4:37 PM | Report abuse

You know what sounds painful? Casey Rabach in the nude 400m hurdles.

Posted by: SMACK | July 9, 2008 4:39 PM | Report abuse

I don't recall ever seeing Cindy giving the Bog some love in the comments... this Nats fans versus The United fans versus the WashPo via the Bog is hilarious. It's a Mexican standoff. Good times.

Cyn, I don't know how you get any editing done.

SMACK, I think you set a new blog speed record for Rabach joking. Congratulations, you're on to Beijing! Make us proud, lad.

Posted by: Nate in the PDX | July 9, 2008 4:44 PM | Report abuse

Just clarifyin' and illuminatin' (I hope), CLarry. If some SJKs get kicked in the process, so be it.

Posted by: Cindy | July 9, 2008 4:44 PM | Report abuse

We should hire Trent Dilfer as an offensive assistant.

That would be a much better option than to sign him as a player.........

Posted by: 4th | July 9, 2008 4:44 PM | Report abuse

Don't sleep on this little gem, scamp. Both McConaughey AND Zellwegger. A cinematic delight. This, this is Hollywood magic, writ large.

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0110978/fullcredits#cast

Posted by: Nate in the PDX | July 9, 2008 4:46 PM | Report abuse

As you can see, it's the slow time of the year. All my scribes are on vacation; I have one story edited and ready to roll next week. Two more come in next week. Gotta ease back into work after vaca.

Posted by: Cindy | July 9, 2008 4:47 PM | Report abuse

Actually, I have posted on the Bog before, Nate, but never to this extent.

Posted by: Cindy | July 9, 2008 4:48 PM | Report abuse

Remember when the big decision was "who should the Skins pick: Shuler or Dilfer?"......guess we all know how that turned out. But it's not like Shuler was as bad as Cryin' Leaf, and Dilfer was certainly not as good as Peyton, but Dilfer has a ring and played for what, 14 years? Ouch. I wonder if Gus Frerotte would have won the starting job from Dilfer? At least Gus is still playing right? What a win for the 90's front office!

Posted by: dlhaze | July 9, 2008 4:51 PM | Report abuse

"clarifyin' and illuminatin'"

New blog saying!

Posted by: chris larry | July 9, 2008 4:56 PM | Report abuse

As soon as Gibbs returned to NASCAR he went right back to being just another rich redneck I don't give a crap about.

Posted by: Jesus II | July 9, 2008 5:00 PM | Report abuse

Time for more newsishness:
Colts coach Tony Dungy has written a children's book he hopes will inspire kids to follow their big dreams.
"You Can Do It!" tells the story of a young Dungy, who has found a passion for sports, and his two sisters, who are interested in medicine. But Dungy's younger brother Linden remains undecided on what he should do with his life. Instead of following Dungy into athletics, Linden became a dentist.
Which leads me to ask: why, oh, why couldn't Herman Edwards have been Tony Dungy's little brother?

Posted by: Cindy | July 9, 2008 5:01 PM | Report abuse

Very, very difficult for me to follow more than one blog, Cyn. I'm trying to do my part for Steinbog and the Applebaum. Like cL, I'm just happy to see you mixing it up over there AND up here. The blog's at its best when you're around, in my opinion.

* end shameless kissing up *

Posted by: Nate in the PDX | July 9, 2008 5:02 PM | Report abuse

the sounds like the worst children's book since Bill O'reily's..........

Posted by: chris larry | July 9, 2008 5:03 PM | Report abuse

SMACK, I think you set a new blog speed record for Rabach joking. Congratulations, you're on to Beijing! Make us proud, lad.

Posted by: Nate in the PDX | July 9, 2008 4:44 PM

It's this new Speedo LZR blogsuit I have on, Nate. With the advantage of technoblogical doping, I may now even begin to beat Redcoat to the most obvious one-liners.

Posted by: SMACK | July 9, 2008 5:03 PM | Report abuse

I find it interesting that JG is dead to you. If Herman Edwards were to win a Supe with the Cheeves and then go off to NASCAR, I'd pay attention to how his drivers were doing.

Posted by: Cindy | July 9, 2008 5:04 PM | Report abuse

... why, oh, why couldn't Herman Edwards have been Tony Dungy's little brother?

Posted by: Cindy | July 9, 2008 5:01 PM

Let it go Cindy, just let it go.

Your heart will heal, in time. Even Herman Edwards must eventually pass....

Posted by: Redcoat | July 9, 2008 5:05 PM | Report abuse

I may now even begin to beat Redcoat to the most obvious one-liners.

Posted by: SMACK | July 9, 2008 5:03 PM

Hey! I resemble that remark.

SMACK, Cindy, Adam (if you're lurking somewhere), Skinz, shall we try and arrange some sort of get-together for late July or oily August?

Posted by: Redcoat | July 9, 2008 5:07 PM | Report abuse

Later feeps*


* Copyright: Boren Enterprises, Inc.

Posted by: Redcoat | July 9, 2008 5:09 PM | Report abuse

Don't sleep on this little gem, scamp. Both McConaughey AND Zellwegger. A cinematic delight. This, this is Hollywood magic, writ large.

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0110978/fullcredits#cast

Posted by: Nate in the PDX | July 9, 2008 4:46 PM

Ah yes, Anything with Chainsaw and Massacre in the title warms my heart.

Posted by: scampbell1975 | July 9, 2008 5:12 PM | Report abuse

chris larry is offically the R.I. blogger spokesman:

http://search.yahoo.com/search?ei=utf-8&fr=slv8-tyc7&p=redskins%20insider&type=

Posted by: Anonymous | July 9, 2008 5:15 PM | Report abuse

A minibingus would be fabulous. What if it were to happen after the end of "training camp," which is July 28? I'll be working weekends in August, because of, you know, preseason games.
Thanks for the kind words, Nate. And we're reconfiguring my schedule so that I'm up here with you guys 24.7, with the promise of extra time off after the season (which never really ends -- doh!). With the amazing Zorno doing early practices, the Jasons will be sending constant updates to me. I'm gonna need one of those suits, Smack, and some technoblogical dope.
I may never get over Herm the Germ, Redcoat.

Posted by: Cindy | July 9, 2008 5:16 PM | Report abuse

Masterful job on this post, Steinz. You promised to address this issue "spectacularly," and you delivered.

That is all.

Posted by: Nate in the PDX | July 9, 2008 1:15 PM

Biggest kiss-a** blogger.

Is he trying to get a job with the Post?

Posted by: Delvin | July 9, 2008 5:12 PM

Seems appropriate given the 5:02 PM post here.

Posted by: From Steinbog | July 9, 2008 5:17 PM | Report abuse

I'm not trying to get all political on you, but in the NYT magazine feature on Rush Limbaugh, he had a great quote about Bill O'Reilly: [I'm paraphrasing.] Somebody has to say it -- the man is Ted Baxter.

Posted by: Cindy | July 9, 2008 5:19 PM | Report abuse

We could use a guy like Nate around here.

Posted by: Cindy | July 9, 2008 5:20 PM | Report abuse

Nate could beef up your lacking Nats coverage (at least I hear it is lacking).

Posted by: Adam | July 9, 2008 5:23 PM | Report abuse

I am LOLing, Adam!

Posted by: Cindy | July 9, 2008 5:26 PM | Report abuse

Cindy,
If Herm ever manages to win anything again I think we'd all pay attention.

Posted by: Anonymous | July 9, 2008 5:28 PM | Report abuse

Unfortunately, I couldn't because I'd be unconscious.

Posted by: Cindy | July 9, 2008 5:34 PM | Report abuse

Lighten up Cindy-baby. You're rewriting history here. MJ didn't leave Lez Boulez in the dust a la Tony Stewart...Abe P told him to get the funk out!

Posted by: Flizzo | July 9, 2008 6:26 PM | Report abuse

Anyone else see this?

http://insider.espn.go.com/nfl/insider/news/story?id=3478870&action=upsell&appRedirect=http%3a%2f%2finsider.espn.go.com%2fnfl%2finsider%2fnews%2fstory%3fid%3d3478870

ESPN rates ever team's wide receivers and the Skins end up at 21!! That's behind Philadelphia, the Jets, and ATLANTA!!

Not to be a homer, but how could anyone argue that Roddy White (after one decent season) and Kevin Curtis are better receivers than Santana Moss?

Posted by: Vincent in Brooklyn | July 9, 2008 7:30 PM | Report abuse

Ah Adam's return. Thanks for the hit and run earlier. I must have really hit a sore spot with you huh? Well sorry about that. It always amuses me when someone starts crying over jokes on a blog (even if they were run into the ground long ago.)

Posted by: scampbell1975 | July 9, 2008 7:48 PM | Report abuse

blue nads

Posted by: Anonymous | July 9, 2008 7:49 PM | Report abuse

I hate blue nads.

Posted by: scampbell1975 | July 9, 2008 7:50 PM | Report abuse

Ah Adam's return. Thanks for the hit and run earlier. I must have really hit a sore spot with you huh? Well sorry about that. It always amuses me when someone starts crying over jokes on a blog (even if they were run into the ground long ago.)

Posted by: scampbell1975 | July 9, 2008 7:48 PM

I thought the one who won't let the UGA crap die is not scamp but The Truth.

Posted by: talent evaluator | July 9, 2008 8:01 PM | Report abuse

What do you expect...

Posted by: scampbell1975 | July 9, 2008 8:11 PM | Report abuse

I dunno Nate with his giant Mutton chops... Think the WaPo can handle those things? I know he could not cover the Nats he would get kicked out of the press box for trying to heckle the right fielder all the time at home games.

Posted by: Alex35332 | July 9, 2008 9:11 PM | Report abuse

So, post-WW2 macroeconomic policy in Great Britian: the successful transition of a world power, or the inevitable decline of colonialism?
Discuss, with specific examples.

Posted by: cload & daggar | July 9, 2008 9:17 PM | Report abuse

Whew! what a conversation. Loved catching up on the comments because Football season is a stone's throw away.

Thank God for Cyn. I must say I love that lady. Cindy, IF I wasn't happily married with three kids and IF I had the will power of Alex Rodriguez you would so be my other woman. You totally rock keeping the blog alive, your comments, and of course everything else I hear about you from the other hamsters.

Sorry, if anyone took offense at me thanking the Almighty for Cyn. I'm a big fan of both Cyn and the triune God of the Bible but cringe when politics and religion are "discussed" on this blog. I hated reading through the anon Pharisee's comments. Dude grow some stone's and put a fake name there.

CL, you have to have the thickest skin of the blog. You're supreme and I love your sense of humor. Keep it up, you help the rest of wade through the comments. How you can be such a lightning rod for negativity/provocation continues to amaze me. But in the spirit of RI - F ChriS laRry.

Love the positive predictions for the team. Gotta to say the car is fully loaded and ready. It's a question of how fast the new driver can learn to race - that and if any major parts needing replacement mid-season - but for those not following the metaphor, 22 returning starters puts the 'skins at the top of the league in player continuity.

Nude Olympics? Power lifting anyone? I know the Thai ladys take home medals in power lifting but I don't want to see man or woman in that crouched position naked doing the clean and jerk.

As for me and why I'm so happy today. It's my youngest daughter's 1st birthday today. She is created with Down Syndrome and was born with a heart defect - PDA. She had successful surgery two months ago, a scary bout with post-operative pnuemonia but she is healing up just right. Meanwhile I had two herniated discs, then myelitis and now it turns out that I may have the onset of M.S. Long story short. We've been in and out the hospital for two months but I love life and the Washington Redskins!

Posted by: bangkokben | July 9, 2008 9:48 PM | Report abuse

Forgot to chime in on The Truth. Sometimes, I like the The Truth; sometimes like Jack Nicholson in "A Few Good Men," I can't handle The Truth - tne incessant uga stuff and other times. But generally, I dig the The Truth but this truth won't set you free from spit.

Sorry for the long post before. Should have broken it up a bit.

Posted by: bangkokben | July 9, 2008 9:52 PM | Report abuse

If you had the will power of A-Rod, the fact that you're happily married with three kids would be irrelevant.

But clearly, A-Rod has the will power of a chihuahua compared to you -- and double for your daughter. Happy birthday!

Posted by: cload & daggar | July 9, 2008 9:59 PM | Report abuse

My dauphine,
Can you get with Brauchli and fix the extended character set problem on the front page of your industry-leading, best-of-class, never-get-a-second-chance-to-make-a-first-impression website?
The following warning is issued to save lives:

# Officials Add Jalapeños to Salmonella Warning

So be on the lookout for roving bands of Jalapeños...

Posted by: cload & daggar | July 9, 2008 10:04 PM | Report abuse

My vote for blog snippet of the year:

Dude grow some stone's and put a fake name there.

Posted by: cload & daggar | July 9, 2008 10:07 PM | Report abuse

bkb, much as it can mean from a pukes fan, you are a credit to the blog yourself, and an inspiration to the community. We all have our challenges but yours seem steeper than most. I admire you, man. Your attitude gives me strength and probably many others up here as well. Best wishes for a healthy and happy future.

I am also pro-Truth. Anyone (almost) who keeps the blog rocking is okay with me. It's nice when there are a few messages waiting for me after a few minutes on the company throne with the Style section. Plus seeing "The Truth" always puts an old Quicksilver Messenger Service tune between my ears (filling the biggest and nearest center of gravity, as god intended).

If I may put in a plug...pretty good series on China kicking off on Discovery about now.

Hail Blog!

Posted by: Smack | July 9, 2008 10:08 PM | Report abuse

Or, at Lauriol Plaza...

Chefs Add Jalapenos to Salmonella Warning.

Maybe we here in America could emulate Pamplona and have the Running of Salmonella.

Posted by: SMACK | July 9, 2008 10:13 PM | Report abuse

... the Running of Salmonella.

Posted by: SMACK | July 9, 2008 10:13 PM

Ah, the return of salmonella, halcyon days indeed. Was it almost 20 years ago?

http://news.bbc.co.uk/onthisday/hi/dates/stories/december/3/newsid_2519000/2519451.stm

Of course ours was in chickens, or was it eggs? Not sure which came first, but anyway as always, I digress.

Ben, you have my eternal admiration for your ability to make Limoncello from those lemons. More power to you!

A brickbat also though for reminding me of a story told to me years ago by an Aussie friend about spending time in a Bangkok bar watching a very talented Thai lady "powerlifting" things from the bar top... that was a mental image I really didn't need to have reactivated.

Cload, I'd take a stab at discussing your topic but I'd just get all bitter and twisted about end of Empire, thin red line, blah blah blah.

Posted by: Redcoat | July 9, 2008 10:24 PM | Report abuse

BKB, It's always nice to hear such a positive attitude. Keep up the spirit and the worm will continue for you. Here's to you and yours.

Posted by: scampbell1975 | July 9, 2008 10:33 PM | Report abuse

*the worm will continue to turn for you*

Posted by: scampbell1975 | July 9, 2008 10:33 PM | Report abuse

And you folks like your eggs with that dangerous Running of the Yolks too, right? I basically treat raw eggs or chicken as I would weapons grade anthrax. Couple months ago my cat ate a chunk or raw chicken and didn't move for three days.

Posted by: SMACK | July 9, 2008 10:42 PM | Report abuse

BKB thanks for the shout out! I always like your posts and I love you are the Far East RI bureau chief! Your personal story is both heartbreaking and inspirational,I have a daughter on the way myself so your story spoke to me.

Ok h8ters have at me...

My take on The Truth: I was against him before I was for him. Now I dig him, although the UGA stuff is boooorrriiinngg!

Posted by: chris larry | July 9, 2008 10:52 PM | Report abuse

You U.S. Americans crack me up.

Auto-correct can be a very helpful feature of any word-processing program. But when conservatives use it, they run the risk of embarrassing themselves.

The American Family Association's OneNewsNow website, for example, takes its AP articles and replaces the word "gay" with the word "homosexual." I'm not entirely sure why, but it seems to make the AFA happy. The group is, after all, pretty far out there.

The problem, of course, is that "gay" does not always mean what the AFA wants it to mean
Tyson Gay won the 100 meters at the U.S. Olympic track and field trials over the weekend. The AFA ran the story, but only after the auto-correct had "fixed" the article.

That means -- you guessed it -- the track star was renamed "Tyson Homosexual." The headline on the piece read, "Homosexual eases into 100 final at Olympic trials." Readers learned:

Tyson Homosexual easily won his semifinal for the 100 meters at the U.S. Olympic track and field trials and seemed to save something for the final later Sunday.

His wind-aided 9.85 seconds was a fairly cut-and-dry performance compared to what happened a day earlier. On Saturday, Homosexual misjudged the finish in his opening heat and had to scramble to finish fourth, then in his quarterfinal a couple of hours later, ran 9.77 to break the American record that had stood since 1999. [...]

Homosexual didn't get off to a particularly strong start in the first semifinal, but by the halfway mark he had established a comfortable lead. He slowed somewhat over the final 10 meters-nothing like the way-too-soon complete shutdown that almost cost him Saturday. Asked how he felt, Homosexual said: "A little fatigued."

Now, the AFA has since changed the article back to the way it was originally written by the AP reporter

Posted by: kost52 | July 9, 2008 11:11 PM | Report abuse

They changed the wrong thing:

Asked how he felt, Homosexual said: "A little fatigued."

should read

Asked how he felt, Homosexual said: "A little puffy, so be gentle with me."

Posted by: freddie mercury | July 9, 2008 11:15 PM | Report abuse

The advert at the top of the page just caught my eye (mainly because it mentioned beer). It was something along the lines of "Pale ale, Stout......Beer. It is what it is!"

But it was advertising something called Grape Nuts? I didn't even know the WERE male and female grapes!

Posted by: kost52 | July 9, 2008 11:18 PM | Report abuse

And you folks like your eggs with that dangerous Running of the Yolks too, right?

Posted by: SMACK | July 9, 2008 10:42 PM

'Tis true. Eggs, whether fried, boiled or poached should have a runny yolk. In an ideal world I'd have 'bread soldiers' spread with butter and marmite* to dip into it too.


* I believe over here this is called 'axle grease'

Posted by: Redcoat | July 9, 2008 11:21 PM | Report abuse

The problem is that there is too many people worrying about a bunch of crap that doesn't really matter. The thinking that they should be the moral watchdog for everyone else is just a crock when I bet you could walk within 10 miles of their homes and find someone without a home, or without a job, or addicted to something. Yet they want to concentrate on people's words and whether someone will be offended. Considering what this country is blessed with it's pretty pathetic that most anyone is offended by mere words. If you want to be offended you can take a look around and I guarantee they can find something much more meaningful to be offended by. It all boils down to too much free time. They need to find something really constuctive to do with it. Like post on this blog! GO SKINS!!!

Posted by: scampbell1975 | July 9, 2008 11:22 PM | Report abuse

Hey Kost, can you have a word with the Aussie cricket players please?

Even though the team is mostly filled with a bunch of "who-he's" they still keep thrashing everyone and frankly, that's just not cricket you know.

Posted by: Redcoat | July 9, 2008 11:24 PM | Report abuse

If you want to be offended you can take a look around and I guarantee they can find something much more meaningful to be offended by.

(Apparently grammar isn't my strong suit.)

Posted by: scampbell1975 | July 9, 2008 11:24 PM | Report abuse

Redcoat, I know! We lose All-Time greats like Ponting, Hayden and Gilchrist for one reason or another, and in come Ronchi, D.Hussey and the young Marsh fella, and they rock out!

Posted by: kost52 | July 9, 2008 11:33 PM | Report abuse

It doesn't augur well for the Ashes for us next year. I'd better hurry up my US citizenship so I can claim I don't care about the cricket any more...

G'night all.

Posted by: Redcoat | July 9, 2008 11:36 PM | Report abuse

As far as relgion goes, I remember a gerat communist who said "Religion is the opiate of the masses."

Also, one of my favorite t-shirts that I've ever seen has an image of Jesus on the cross and behind him are 2 other people hanging on the cross. Below the images it says "Hanging With Jesus."

So funny.

Posted by: Macho Man | July 10, 2008 1:59 AM | Report abuse

Cload, Smack, Scamp, RC, and CL

Thanks for the well wishes.

CL, I've got your back in any bar fight we can't laugh our way out of.

Rc, sorry about the mental image, I blame Alex.

Kost, funny stuff about the AFA. An ironic backfire for the AFA.

God, keep them away from "The Chronicles of Narnia." Old C.S. Lewis uses gay and queer in the old fashioned sense throughout the series. (Nothing to do with homosexuality, in case your under 25 and haven't looked in a dictionary.)

I'm about to calculate the hours before the HOF game, or first practice, or next signing, or Malcom Kelly's return from Liberia. Redskins football is approaching like a giamt meteor. Exciting!

Posted by: bangkokben | July 10, 2008 2:06 AM | Report abuse

Continuing with the religious-themed Redskins Insider I'm reminded of George Carlin's many takes on religion, one specifically comes from his last HBO special. He said:

"Here's another slogan you run into all the time, "God Bless America".

Once again, respectfully, I say to myself "What the #@&% does that mean?

"God Bless America?" Is that a request? Is tht a demand? Is that a suggestion? Politicians say it at the end of every speech, as if it was some sort of verbal tick that they can't get rid of.

I guess they figure if they leave it out someone is going to think they're "bad Americans". Let me tell you something folks, God Does not give a flying @#$* about America, ok? He doesn't care. He never cared about this country. He never has. He never will. He doesn't care about this country any more than he cares about Mongolia, Transylvania, Pittsburgh, the Suez Canal or the North Pole. He simply doesn't care, ok.

Listen, there are 200 countries in the world, do these people honestly think God is sitting around picking out his favorites?

Why would he do that?

Why would God have a favorite country? And why would it be America of all the countries? Because we have the most money? Because he likes our national anthem? Maybe it's because he heard we have 18 delicious flavours of classic Rice-O-Ronie?

It's Delusional Thinking.

If these people believe in God, they must have heard that God Loves Everyone, and he loves them equally. So why would these people ask God to do something that goes against his own teaching? Maybe they ought to check with that Jesus fella. They're always talking about "What would Jesus do?"


Dude always brought the truth when it came to religion.

Posted by: Macho Man | July 10, 2008 2:08 AM | Report abuse

legalize marijuana.

If everyone was able to puff on the wacky-tobacky we'd all be a much more melo and friendlier world.

Posted by: Anonymous | July 10, 2008 2:18 AM | Report abuse

Hey man.

Stop stealing my ideas..........

Posted by: Burner from Hiiigh-attsville | July 10, 2008 4:30 AM | Report abuse

As for me and why I'm so happy today. It's my youngest daughter's 1st birthday today. She is created with Down Syndrome and was born with a heart defect - PDA. She had successful surgery two months ago, a scary bout with post-operative pnuemonia but she is healing up just right. Meanwhile I had two herniated discs, then myelitis and now it turns out that I may have the onset of M.S. Long story short. We've been in and out the hospital for two months but I love life and the Washington Redskins!

Posted by: bangkokben | July 9, 2008 9:48 PM

Best of luck, Ben. I have an idea of how it is to be stuck in a hospital for an extended period: in the same week two years ago, my dad had open heart surgery after multiple strokes and heart ailments AND my daughter had some complications at birth. It was a bit touch and go that first week of her life. That was the hardest week of my life and I can only imagine what it is to live that way for a year. Well wishes and good luck to you and yours!

Posted by: brownwood26 | July 10, 2008 6:01 AM | Report abuse

And on a lighter note, why are the Skins selling rookie jerseys? There was no first round pick this year, not to mention it's kind of tacky that I can wear Devin Thomas' jersey before he does!

Posted by: brownwood26 | July 10, 2008 6:03 AM | Report abuse

Anyone else see this?

http://insider.espn.go.com/nfl/insider/news/story?id=3478870&action=upsell&appRedirect=http%3a%2f%2finsider.espn.go.com%2fnfl%2finsider%2fnews%2fstory%3fid%3d3478870

ESPN rates ever team's wide receivers and the Skins end up at 21!! That's behind Philadelphia, the Jets, and ATLANTA!!

Not to be a homer, but how could anyone argue that Roddy White (after one decent season) and Kevin Curtis are better receivers than Santana Moss?

Posted by: Vincent in Brooklyn | July 9, 2008 7:30 PM

Atlanta and Philly ahead of Washington doesn't piss me off nearly as much as Houston at #13. Seriously?! They have one receiver (Andre Johnson) and he missed a bunch of time this year. This Keith Kidd guy can look me in the eye with a straight face and tell me that Kevin f-ing Walter is a quality #2 receiver and that the Johnson/Walter tandem is better than Smith/Muhammad in Carolina and Moss/Randle El in D.C.? This idiot has to be blind in both eyes...or a Dallas fan!

Posted by: brownwood26 | July 10, 2008 6:16 AM | Report abuse

This idiot has to be blind in both eyes...or a Dallas fan!

Posted by: brownwood26 | July 10, 2008 6:16 AM

Calm down, my friend. This is the silliest part of the silly season. They've finished the "cutest mascot" contest (Chief Zee must have lost because there's nothing about it on the Redskins website), and there's a countdown clock on CBS.com showing, to the second, how long until the HOF game. (This should same Bangkok Ben from calculating it himself.)

The lead headline right now on CBS.com is "Broncos sign two fifth-rounders, sixth-round pick." That's the big news from the NFL.

So, ESPN assigns one of its lamest reporters to "write something, anything" and this is what the intern came up with. All the less lame reporters are on vacation.

Fortunately, all this will be settled -- in due course -- on the field. And by the time it is, you will have forgotten all about it and the lamest reporter will be back at college in his third year of studying journalism. And, the Redskins will be in the playoffs.

Posted by: talent evaluator | July 10, 2008 6:58 AM | Report abuse

I'm with you, TE. These are indeed the dog days of summer for football fans. But that's no excuse for incompetence. Keith Kidd's list is incompetent. His list is about the equivalent of me saying that the Vikings have the best QB situation in the NFL and that the NFC North is the best division. Just ridiculous.

Posted by: brownwood26 | July 10, 2008 7:05 AM | Report abuse

Keith Kidd's list is incompetent.

Posted by: brownwood26 | July 10, 2008 7:05 AM

He's just a Kidd, b'wood. Give him a chance. You were young once. When he's Keith Adultt, he'll get it right.

Posted by: talent evaluator | July 10, 2008 7:10 AM | Report abuse

He's just a Kidd, b'wood. Give him a chance. You were young once. When he's Keith Adultt, he'll get it right.

Posted by: talent evaluator | July 10, 2008 7:10 AM

We can only hope TE. We can only hope...

Posted by: brownwood26 | July 10, 2008 7:24 AM | Report abuse

I am going to go order my shawn suisham jersey right now.

Not exactly the mile high club, but its as close as Ill ever get.

Posted by: Cheyenne, WY | July 10, 2008 7:41 AM | Report abuse

This idiot has to be blind in both eyes...

Posted by: brownwood26 | July 10, 2008 6:16 AM

Jerk

Posted by: Stevie Wonder | July 10, 2008 7:42 AM | Report abuse

Calm down Stevie. Even we put out better WR rankings.

Posted by: Ray Charles | July 10, 2008 7:44 AM | Report abuse

Dont mess with me Ray, I look like the Predator for a reason.

Posted by: Stevie Wonder | July 10, 2008 7:49 AM | Report abuse

Stevie, Ray--

You guys wanna talk about looks?

Posted by: Michael Jackson | July 10, 2008 8:07 AM | Report abuse

Re: receivers at 21 is wrong.

Let's not be total homers. There is a reason the 'Skins took WRs with their first 2 picks.

Moss underperformed last year due to injury, age, and size. Randle El is another smallish slot receiver. Neither receiver has much upside left.

Then there are the 2 unproven rookies; both might tank against NFL-quality DBs.

Someone tell me why the 'Skins are better than 21 at WR?

Posted by: SCSkins | July 10, 2008 8:10 AM | Report abuse

What is Smoke going to do when NASCAR is a one make series w/ Toyota as the only manufacturer in next 5 years?

NASCAR viewership is off big time. NASCAR reached its Zenith and now is on the decline.

And finally the Deadskins will finish 3-13 and real racers turn right and race in the rain!

Posted by: Anonymous | July 10, 2008 8:15 AM | Report abuse

Someone tell me why the 'Skins are better than 21 at WR?

Posted by: SCSkins | July 10, 2008 8:10 AM

Because despite the injury concerns, Moss is a Pro-Bowler with game breaking capabilities and ARE has shown himself to be a solid #2. The only caveat is WHEN HEALTHY--both guys missed considerable time last year. And with the rookies--if they were starters I'd agree with your take. But they're seldom (if ever) going to be lined up across from the opponent's best corner, and neither guy is going to be any higher than 2nd on the depth chart. They're both 2nd round picks with 1st round grades, so they're not exactly Anthony Mix. So I'm not saying they should be top 10 or anything, just not 21st and below the Houston f-ing Texans.

Posted by: brownwood26 | July 10, 2008 8:39 AM | Report abuse

What is Smoke going to do when NASCAR is a one make series w/ Toyota as the only manufacturer in next 5 years?

NASCAR viewership is off big time. NASCAR reached its Zenith and now is on the decline.

And finally the Deadskins will finish 3-13 and real racers turn right and race in the rain!


Posted by: | July 10, 2008 8:15 AM

I'm not a huge NASCAR fan but I watch occassionally and I do know one thing. Toyota has a big advantage this year because of some horspower diiferential rule that they are benefitting from. I'm not sure the ins and outs of the rule but NASCAR basically gave then an advantage so they could establish themselves. Next year a rule goes into place that evens the playing field. Something about a 5 horsepower differential limit between all manufacturers. At least thats what I understand. So the playing field will supposedly be narrowed again and the races will return to who's the best driver. That's my understanding anyway. That's all I've got on NASCAR. As far as the rankings at WR... I think's it's crap but I guess we'll just have to wait and see. Santana hasn't put up huge numbers in a couple of years and isn't breaking games open like he did that one year. I think this (or next) may be his year because I think teams will have too many receivers that they have to cover and can't focus on him too much.

Posted by: scampbell1975 | July 10, 2008 8:50 AM | Report abuse

ESPN did a ranking like this before the 2006 season. The Skins ranked in the top 10 for every offensive position except QB, where they ranked in the top 15. If I recall correctly, the DB and LB faired pretty good on those rankings as well. How good were the 2006 Redskins?
Offseason rankings and predictions mean nothing to me. Especially with Zorn as a complete unknown (good or bad) commodity. You also cannot forecast things like injuries, breakout years, veterns declining, etc. If TO or Witten gets hurt this year, everyone's prediction about Dallas going to the Super Bowl will be finished. Same goes for Brady and the Pats.
I know it is the ultimate cliche, but we will just have to wait and see...

Posted by: Matt | July 10, 2008 9:14 AM | Report abuse

Re the #21 ranking, whatever. Someone tell Keith Kidd I'm going to cut his nuts off for that ranking.

Posted by: Greg | July 10, 2008 9:19 AM | Report abuse

I still love the fact that Playboy was the only publication to pick the Skins to win it all in 1991. Hmmm... I guess I'll have to pick up a copy of this year's NFL preview to see how we fare. You know, for the article...

Posted by: [cc] | July 10, 2008 9:38 AM | Report abuse

If Toyota has such an advantage this year, then why aren't T Stewart, M Waltrip, B Vickers, etc. not winning any races? And why would arguably the best driver (K Busch) almost get passed on the last lap last week to a Ford? If the caution hadn't come out, the Toyota would have been passed. This whole horsepower conspiracy is a crock.

Posted by: Sir Anonymous the Great | July 10, 2008 9:54 AM | Report abuse

Just repeating what I've heard and read. Doesn't mean it's true. Like anything else, it could be complete crap. I was just offering a plausible argument to the previous posters opinion.

Posted by: scampbell1975 | July 10, 2008 9:58 AM | Report abuse

phew, I thought my 'cut his nuts off' comment broke the blog.

It was a reference to Jesse Jackson's comments regarding Obama, but neither here nor there.

Smoke has had a good year, but some really bad luck. I don't buy the horsepower theory either, seems kind of fishy to me. I'm a Nascar fan, and I've never heard that prior to today.

Posted by: Greg | July 10, 2008 9:59 AM | Report abuse

"I'm trying to relate to dad better, so I've bought a book called 'The Heroes of Na-Scar'"

Posted by: Niles Crane | July 10, 2008 10:02 AM | Report abuse

I have heard it all year as well from the crying Jeff Gordon fans. I hate that Toyota has entered this great American sport as well, but I know that they will do whatever is necessary to succeed at this level. Gibbs was just smart enough to jump on board with them. For the Chevy guys to imply that they are "cheating" is ridiculous.

Posted by: Sir Anonymous the Great | July 10, 2008 10:04 AM | Report abuse

Joe Gibbs don't cheat. At anything, ever.

Posted by: Alex35332 | July 10, 2008 10:12 AM | Report abuse

wow, we agreed on something, Alex!

Posted by: SAtG | July 10, 2008 10:14 AM | Report abuse

I don't have anything I can add on the NASCAR discussion but I do have a qork-related question for all.

I have to interview a candidate for the role that I have been acting in (sucessfully) for the last couple of months. It seems at this time I won't even be given an interview for the position, and the guy I'm meeting today is plainly exaggerating on his resume (I know a lot of people where he worked for many years and back-channeled them on his 'claims').

So, do I:

$. Play the good corporate guy and give him a fair interview and a chance to get the job, or,
6. blow him up in the first 2 minutes?

It's all the same to me, either way, but Cindy if the WaPo has need of an overpaid and underworking strategic marketing guy, please let me know! Actually on second thoughts, the 'overpaid and underworking' part of my previous sentence is tautological, as I said I was in strategic marketing.

All suggestions welcomed.

Posted by: Redcoat | July 10, 2008 10:18 AM | Report abuse

they shouldn't have put you on the interview team if they didn't want you to probe into the claims made on his resume. Instead of just "blowing him up" in the first two minutes, I'd make it as uncomfortable as possible for him by asking pointed questions involving the activities that you know he did not do. At least that makes you look like you didn't have an axe to grind.

Posted by: Sir Anonymous the Great | July 10, 2008 10:22 AM | Report abuse

RC, myself, I'd go with #$. You never know how this could come back to you. Tis better to toe the company line, and be fair, than to give anyone any ammo against you.

my .02 anyway..

Posted by: Greg | July 10, 2008 10:25 AM | Report abuse

being "fair" is relative. Be fair to the candidate by giving him a chance to explain (using examples, situational analysis, etc.) his experience. But you should also be fair to your company by not blindly accepting claims that you know to be untrue. If he truly doesn't have the claimed experience, it will be obvious when he has to come up with examples and relevant situational behaviors.

Posted by: SAtG | July 10, 2008 10:29 AM | Report abuse

Blowing up is not nearly as fun as making them sweat it out. I mean without too much detail what do you mean by exaggerating the resume? Is he lying blatantly, or just taking more credit than he should? I don't think you should toe the line, because ultimately not hiring a guy who is lying is better for the company. I say, go with the quick jabs about the exaggerations and see how he reacts. Make him hot under the collar.

Posted by: Alex35332 | July 10, 2008 10:32 AM | Report abuse

Be careful though. I come from the Bruno/Barno school of thought and have little respect for cheaters, manipulators, "victims", etc. You may not want to consider my unpopular "extreme" opinions.

Posted by: Sir Anonymous the Great | July 10, 2008 10:33 AM | Report abuse

More importantly, RC, why are you not being granted an interview for a slot you've been filling competently? Typical corporate BS. I'd blow the guy up out of sheer bitterness, but I guess that's why I still get the coffee here.

Posted by: SMACK | July 10, 2008 10:35 AM | Report abuse

RC--

None of the above. When he gets the job, you take the one that he just left.

Why do you think "they" are favoring him over you, and who are "they" anyway? If this is rigged, there's no point in taking a stand that is contrary to what "they" want.

My motto at work was "when they want to hear my opinion, they'll tell me what it is." Unfortunately, I adopted this motto too late to do much good and I never really could live by it anyway.

Posted by: talent evaluator | July 10, 2008 10:38 AM | Report abuse

if u ain't lying u ain't tryin!!!

Posted by: Anonymous | July 10, 2008 10:38 AM | Report abuse

Ya, that too is weird BS to me. Did you want the job RC?

Posted by: Alex35332 | July 10, 2008 10:39 AM | Report abuse

I think you have to take into account how bad the exaggerations are. In an interview, you're selling yourself. You emphasize the positives in you and downplay (or outright ignore) the negatives. If he's bending the truth or straight lying on his resume, he needs to be called out on it now. If he's just puffing, I'd let it go.

The bottom line is can he do the job effectively and is he the best man for the job. If you can answer that in the affirmative AND feel like you can trust the guy, I'd give him a shot.

Posted by: brownwood26 | July 10, 2008 10:41 AM | Report abuse

Right how many people have, adicted-RI-hampster-blogger in their Resume?

Posted by: Alex35332 | July 10, 2008 10:44 AM | Report abuse

RC--

None of the above. When he gets the job, you take the one that he just left.

Why do you think "they" are favoring him over you, and who are "they" anyway? If this is rigged, there's no point in taking a stand that is contrary to what "they" want.

My motto at work was "when they want to hear my opinion, they'll tell me what it is." Unfortunately, I adopted this motto too late to do much good and I never really could live by it anyway.

Posted by: talent evaluator | July 10, 2008 10:38 AM

this is exactly the victim mentality that I have no respect for.

Don't let anyone else unilaterally determine your fate.

Posted by: Anonymous | July 10, 2008 10:44 AM | Report abuse

sorry, 10:44 was me for those of you that despise anonymous posts

Posted by: SAtG | July 10, 2008 10:45 AM | Report abuse

Sorry, I mean other than Cindy, JR, & JLC

Posted by: Alex35332 | July 10, 2008 10:45 AM | Report abuse

Don't let anyone else unilaterally determine your fate.

Posted by: | July 10, 2008 10:44 AM

In other words, why succeed when you can give them the ammunition to shoot you in the head?

Posted by: talent evaluator | July 10, 2008 10:57 AM | Report abuse

Right how many people have, adicted-RI-hampster-blogger in their Resume?

Posted by: Alex35332 | July 10, 2008 10:44 AM

I certainly do.

I imagine that there are other hamsters/anons willing to speculate on items in my resume.

Posted by: Nate in the PDX | July 10, 2008 11:01 AM | Report abuse

in my business, "succeeding" doesn't require one to lay down and blow with the wind. In fact, I find nice places for those types in the mailroom where they have the best chance of succeeding.

Posted by: Sir Anonymous the Great | July 10, 2008 11:01 AM | Report abuse

I just saw that picture of Jasno and P Diddy. The last time I saw that much sweat was when I watched Cool Hand Luke.

Posted by: George Kennedy | July 10, 2008 11:03 AM | Report abuse

you should have seen Joey Chestnut at the 4th of July Nathan's hot dog eating competition.

Posted by: Anonymous | July 10, 2008 11:05 AM | Report abuse

I imagine that there are other hamsters/anons willing to speculate on items in my resume.

Posted by: Nate in the PDX | July 10, 2008 11:01 AM

Arse kisser?

Posted by: Anonymous | July 10, 2008 11:06 AM | Report abuse

Good morning! Much to catch up on and respond to....Weren't you busy lil hamsters last night?
Actually, MJ DID leave Verizon in a cloud of dust -- after Abe gave him the heave-ho. We had the photo on our front page to prove it. Remember the southside view of the northbound Benz with the Illinois plates?
Thanks for that heads up, Cload. I hope they've fixed it by now...
The luv goes right back atcha and your family, Ben! We have some real heroes up here.
I Tivo'ed that China thing on Disco, Smack...I hear there's a big surprise ending when Ted's hair moves at the end.
I luv a good ethical dilemma, 'Coat! I think you have to interview him compentently and fairly and let the chipz, like such as, fall where they may. If he blows himself up real good, so be it. If not, he'll get hired and everyone will be working for him in two years.
On another matter, I'd like to say that I have officially had it with Brett Favre. I luv the guy, but I've had it with him.

Posted by: Cindy | July 10, 2008 11:07 AM | Report abuse

in my business, "succeeding" doesn't require one to lay down and blow with the wind. In fact, I find nice places for those types in the mailroom where they have the best chance of succeeding.

Posted by: Sir Anonymous the Great | July 10, 2008 11:01 AM

Do you have a mailroom in your Pizza Hut?

Posted by: King Anonymous the Greater | July 10, 2008 11:10 AM | Report abuse

On another matter, I'd like to say that I have officially had it with Brett Favre. I luv the guy, but I've had it with him.

Posted by: Cindy | July 10, 2008 11:07 AM

Is there anyone left who hasn't had it with Brett Favre? Dude doesn't know how to exit gracefully (like The Truth has done, six times, from this blog).

Posted by: talent evaluator | July 10, 2008 11:12 AM | Report abuse

George Solomon, our retired sports editor, hit it right: Brett Favre is Sugar Ray Leonard.

Posted by: Cindy | July 10, 2008 11:25 AM | Report abuse

Compared to Brett, I look graceful in retirement....

Posted by: Michael Jordan | July 10, 2008 11:28 AM | Report abuse

I think it all depends on what you hoap to do in life. with regard to speaking up, being ballzy or whatever. Me, I have great asperations as do many of my friends who hope to latch onto my dream for there own. I am not going to reach my goal by keeping my mouth shut.

Posted by: Alex35332 | July 10, 2008 11:30 AM | Report abuse

I think thats an overstatement MJ went and played baseball, failed, played in the NBA again, left the bulls so he could play on a then crappy DC team. Farve is not exiting like a Lou Garig but he is still got more class than MJ or the Babe.

Posted by: Alex35332 | July 10, 2008 11:33 AM | Report abuse

I am not going to reach my goal by keeping my mouth shut.

Posted by: Alex35332 | July 10, 2008 11:30 AM

And you won't reach it by shooting your mouth off, either.

Posted by: King Anonymous the Greater | July 10, 2008 11:35 AM | Report abuse

I haven't had it with Favre.....at least he's not pulling a Strahan who obviously just didn't feel like doing training camp. If anything, it gives a good NFC team more questions/distractions heading into the season. That can't be all bad....Anyway, I think that if we don't see him with a TV job lined up by August, he'll play again this year.....

Posted by: dlhaze | July 10, 2008 11:37 AM | Report abuse

And you won't reach it by shooting your mouth off, either.

Posted by: King Anonymous the Greater | July 10, 2008 11:35 AM

True enough one has to know when to do what thing. But Arrogance is best ballanced out by intelegance.

Posted by: Alex35332 | July 10, 2008 11:40 AM | Report abuse

I don't know Alex, it seems to me like a classy exit would be one where he's not holding the team by the nuts on an annual basis. It's a Packer soap opera every year with this guy and GB needs to just trade him and be done with it.

Posted by: brownwood26 | July 10, 2008 11:40 AM | Report abuse

I am not saying he isn't being a dink for it. Just that we have seen worse.

Posted by: Alex35332 | July 10, 2008 11:44 AM | Report abuse

jeeze these people are still obessed with "anons"


get over it, my god, I've never seen so many people cry over something so irrelevant in one place!

Posted by: Anonymous | July 10, 2008 11:45 AM | Report abuse

Oh the irony of an anon crying about crying about anons.

Posted by: Alex35332 | July 10, 2008 11:47 AM | Report abuse

I'm tired of all the Favre coverage and the gushing way in which commentators talk about him. All this I should point out has little to do with Favre.

As for Favre playing, I'm not tired of it at all. Anyway, I'm retiring from discussing this.....for now.

Posted by: Skinz | July 10, 2008 11:48 AM | Report abuse

I haven't had it with Favre.....at least he's not pulling a Strahan who obviously just didn't feel like doing training camp.

Posted by: dlhaze | July 10, 2008 11:37 AM

I think he's actually worse than Strahan. Strahan just wanted out of training camp. Favre wanted out of everything except the games on Sunday. What he said at his press conference was, "I just don't think I can give anything else, aside from the three hours on Sundays, and in football you can't do that. It's a total commitment, and up to this point I have been totally committed....As I looked at this upcoming season, I said, I probably could get myself prepared to play. That really didn't have that much of a bearing on my decision. It's tough on everybody. But it was more the in-season strain."

Posted by: talent evaluator | July 10, 2008 11:52 AM | Report abuse

I know how no4 can only go 3 hours a week in football. He can be a fan like all of us.

Posted by: Alex35332 | July 10, 2008 11:59 AM | Report abuse

I liked the post that suggested anons "person up" and come up with a fake name.

Posted by: Cindy | July 10, 2008 11:59 AM | Report abuse

I know how no4 can only go 3 hours a week in football. He can be a fan like all of us.

Posted by: Alex35332 | July 10, 2008 11:59 AM

Or he can take his dumb ass to Game Stop and buy the damn video game that now bears his likeness. Then he can play all day and night if he wants!

Posted by: brownwood26 | July 10, 2008 12:02 PM | Report abuse

I like that Madden left the option of putting him in the season too. That way Farve can continue to play with himself. They should do that the next 3-4 seasons just in case.

Posted by: Alex35332 | July 10, 2008 12:05 PM | Report abuse

I like that Madden left the option of putting him in the season too. That way Farve can continue to play with himself. They should do that the next 3-4 seasons just in case.

Posted by: Alex35332 | July 10, 2008 12:05 PM

Did they really do that? I didn't see him on the Packers roster on IGN.com.

Posted by: brownwood26 | July 10, 2008 12:10 PM | Report abuse

That way Farve can continue to play with himself.

Posted by: Alex35332 | July 10, 2008 12:05 PM


That's what she said.

Posted by: Michael Scott | July 10, 2008 12:12 PM | Report abuse

RC, I think you have to ask fair but relevant questions and let him illustrate his strengths but maybe more importantly his weaknesses. Let him show what he knows but also make him show what he does not. is the depth of his knowledge worth the time and energy it will take to bring the rest of his game up to par? If he's straight up lying, you should be able to make him step on his own dick.

Posted by: scampbell1975 | July 10, 2008 12:16 PM | Report abuse

RC - has anyone asked what might be an obvious question...why in the SJK are they asking YOU to interview someone for a job that you are currently filling - being close to the Talent Evaluator modus operandi at work, I would step up to the plate and do the best I could when I'm asked to interview -

To answer your question - distilling what other people have said - Ask tough questions that will expose any and all weakensses in his experience, regardless if it's puffed up or not - it's not fair to your company to hire someone who can't do the job

Posted by: John D in Houston | July 10, 2008 12:28 PM | Report abuse

If I come back, I promise to play every game like it's a playoff game.

Posted by: Brett Favre | July 10, 2008 12:29 PM | Report abuse

I am not going to reach my goal by keeping my mouth shut.

Posted by: Alex35332 | July 10, 2008 11:30 AM

And you won't reach it by shooting your mouth off, either.

Posted by: King Anonymous the Greater | July 10, 2008 11:35 AM

I prefer someone to "shoot off at the mouth" with valuable input than an invertebrate.

But you are right.....personal aspirations should always be taken into consideration. There are places at most businesses for the invertebrates as well, and those positions do need to be filled. Kind of the "non-value added" but necessary activities.

Posted by: Sir Anonymous the Great | July 10, 2008 12:37 PM | Report abuse

Ah - Sir Anonymous the Great has the answer to everything, I see - his workplace is perfect, filled with people that have spirited debate regarding any and all issues without any personal rancor or retribution.

As a manager, I encourage everyone who works with me to share their thoughts regarding what's going on. My director overheard a spirited discussion one day and asked me why I let people argue with me. - I told him that that was the way I found out what was going on, and he still didn't agree - my point being, if only the working world was just as picture perfect as SATG made it out to be, it would be just swell.

Of course, maybe if you are you just having a discussion with yourself, you can say whatever the heck you want.

Posted by: John D in Houston | July 10, 2008 12:50 PM | Report abuse

it's a matter of expectations, John D. I prefer to keep mine high of my people.

Others may not choose to do so.

Posted by: Sir Anonymous the Great | July 10, 2008 12:51 PM | Report abuse

and getting back to the point at hand......if I had an interviewer ignore a fraudulent resume, I would have him take his toys and play in someone else's sandbox.

And if I were the one, for some reason asking him to ignore a fraudulent resume, I would hope that he would have the personal conviction to proactively take his toys and play in someone else's sandbox.

Posted by: Sir Anonymous the Great | July 10, 2008 12:57 PM | Report abuse

"Ah - Sir Anonymous the Great has the answer to everything, I see - his workplace is perfect, filled with people that have spirited debate regarding any and all issues without any personal rancor or retribution."

And it is not "any and all issues". It's any and all issues pertaining to the enhancement of the organization vision, goals, and strategies. Anyone making an honest effort to support these are encouraged to provide spirited debate and input.

Posted by: Sir Anonymous the Great | July 10, 2008 1:01 PM | Report abuse

if I had an interviewer ignore a fraudulent resume, I would have him take his toys and play in someone else's sandbox.

Posted by: Sir Anonymous the Great | July 10, 2008 12:57 PM

I thought you worked at a Pizza Hut, but now it looks like you're at a pre-school. Where do you work?

Posted by: King Anonymous the Greater | July 10, 2008 1:01 PM | Report abuse

Agreed

Posted by: John D in Houston | July 10, 2008 1:02 PM | Report abuse

my philosophies are applicable to any business...from pre-schools to fortune 500 entities.

Even talent_evaluating.

Posted by: Anonymous | July 10, 2008 1:04 PM | Report abuse

sorry....yet again I have forgotten to appease the masses by attaching my "name" to my previous post.

Posted by: Sir Anonymous the Great | July 10, 2008 1:05 PM | Report abuse

my philosophies are applicable to any business...from pre-schools to fortune 500 entities.

Posted by: Sir Anonymous the Great | July 10, 2008 1:05 PM

So, you're "between jobs" at the moment?

Posted by: King Anonymous the Greater | July 10, 2008 1:10 PM | Report abuse

wow, you got me there, t_e.

That's some funny stuff!

Posted by: Sir Anonymous the Great | July 10, 2008 1:13 PM | Report abuse

Sir Anonymous,

You are a worthy knight. Let your liege assist you in your time of need.

Listed here -- http://www.usajobs.gov/ -- are 49,817 jobs with the federal government. Each is worthy of a knight, although a few pay more than the rest. My advice is to seek out those with the greater salaries. Remain loyal and you shall prevail.

Posted by: King Anonymous the Greater | July 10, 2008 1:26 PM | Report abuse

Did they really do that? I didn't see him on the Packers roster on IGN.com.

Posted by: brownwood26 | July 10, 2008 12:10 PM

Brown, its an optional team they installed that you can use. look at the Madden Blog on ea's sight, they added in the 2008 Packers roster with names and such as maps.

Posted by: Anonymous | July 10, 2008 1:26 PM | Report abuse

Ya, that too is weird BS to me. Did you want the job RC?

Posted by: Alex35332 | July 10, 2008 10:39 AM

Thankyou all for your input. I'll be meeting with the guy in while and I'll let you know how it goes, maybe.

To answer the above question, all the management in the teams I deal are all puzzled as to why they're being asked to meet the guy, quote-unquote "but you're already doing this role and it's working, isn't it?".

We do have an 'SVP' who doesn;t like me because I embarrassed him in a meeting by explaining carefully how a particular statement he made was not fact-based in any way and was actually 180 degrees inaccurate. He's probably at back of this because in the absence of my former boss, I notionally report to him (although he never speaks to me).

The candidate concerned is exaggerating some key claims in his resume that underpin his suitability for the role. I spent an hour talking with a good friend who is a recent former colleague of his and he has validated all that I had heard separately.

Irregardless (sorry cload) of all this, I've decided to give the guy a chance (my friend says he's a good guy but "VERY full of himself") but I'll ask questions that he will need to answer well to prove that he can back up what he's claiming even if it wasn't him that did those things before. If he can do that he'll prove at least that he can glom knowledge from other people and reuse it correctly in context.

I don't have the luxury of 'walking away' on this one, although my CV has some of those in the past. Age has somewhat dimmed my fiery streak and replaced it instead with Macchiavellian revenge-based plotting ALWAYS 'served cold'.

Thanks all!

Posted by: Redcoat | July 10, 2008 1:38 PM | Report abuse

Btw isn't that the best example of special treatment of Farve. No the packers were not one of 2 superbowl teams that year,which usually qualifies past teams for staying in a Madden series. But they leave him in anyway. Yet I don't think you can find a team with Dan Mareno on it in the great teams.

Posted by: Alex35332 | July 10, 2008 1:38 PM | Report abuse

We do have an 'SVP' who doesn;t like me because I embarrassed him in a meeting by explaining carefully how a particular statement he made was not fact-based in any way and was actually 180 degrees inaccurate.

Posted by: Redcoat | July 10, 2008 1:38 PM

You do this to me all the time here on RI, but I'd still consider you for a promotion. Maybe it's something else -- your looks? bad breath?

Posted by: talent evaluator | July 10, 2008 1:45 PM | Report abuse

Do you wear your Dolphins Jersey every day at work?

Posted by: Alex35332 | July 10, 2008 1:48 PM | Report abuse

Maybe the time spent "wasted" on here?

Posted by: Karen | July 10, 2008 1:48 PM | Report abuse

Maybe it's the ennui talking, but I'm thinking about a blog ultimatum....we need another goal.

Posted by: Cindy | July 10, 2008 1:48 PM | Report abuse

Can the new blog ultimatum be. 1. Get registration back. 2. have over 1000 participants on the blog?

Posted by: Alex35332 | July 10, 2008 1:51 PM | Report abuse

Btw isn't that the best example of special treatment of Farve. No the packers were not one of 2 superbowl teams that year,which usually qualifies past teams for staying in a Madden series. But they leave him in anyway. Yet I don't think you can find a team with Dan Mareno on it in the great teams.
Posted by: Alex35332 | July 10, 2008 1:38 PM

I have'nt bought a new Madden game in a while, but it always ticked me off that the past great teams were all fouled up in terms of players numbers. I can understand that they don't want to pay royalties to former players and not use their names, but to have the starting qb on the 82 skins (Thiesmann) have the number 6, and the starting RB (Riggins) have no. 22 or whatever, etc, was just awful. At least do some research and get the numbers right.....Everyone knows if you are playing the 84 Dolphins, the QB should be no. 13, not whatever made up number they use. Doesn't even really feel like you are playing the guys you remember at all. Don't get me started on their player rankings/stats/scores/whatever.....Does anyone know if they have fixed this since Madden 2005?

Posted by: dlhaze | July 10, 2008 1:54 PM | Report abuse

Can the new blog ultimatum be. 1. Get registration back. 2. have over 1000 participants on the blog?

Posted by: Alex35332 | July 10, 2008 1:51 PM

I like #1. Without it, #2 would be easy -- but it would include about 400 Nate in the PDX and another 30 Nate with the PMS. You know, we have 59 people registered on the Wiki.

Posted by: Anonymous | July 10, 2008 2:00 PM | Report abuse

That was me @ 2:00. Time for a nap.

Posted by: talent evaluator | July 10, 2008 2:01 PM | Report abuse

Dlhaze,
I don't know about on 08 or the PS3/xbox360 games but the 2007 did not have the right names and stuff either. Than again, I stoped playing with HOF teams once they stoped putting them in the classic stadiums. I loved taking the 91 skins as my team because they played in RFK. Its not right to play as the Oilers in Tenn., the original Texans in K.C. Or the LA Rams in Stl.

Posted by: Alex35332 | July 10, 2008 2:02 PM | Report abuse

Has anyone posted espn's top 10 list of TE units in the league? It's an insider article, and clearly I'm too cheap to pay for espn insider access, though I'd like to see where the skins rank on that.

Posted by: psps23 | July 10, 2008 2:02 PM | Report abuse

I hope if registration ever returns, I can maintain my name. I have grown quite fond of it.

Unfortunately, having arrived after this highly touted registration went away, I have no way of knowing the logistics of it.

Posted by: Sir Anonymous the Great | July 10, 2008 2:04 PM | Report abuse

Just say no to Registration.

Posted by: Skinz | July 10, 2008 2:06 PM | Report abuse

Sir,
There are ways to "trick" registraton. Not that I think its a good thing to do.

Posted by: Alex35332 | July 10, 2008 2:06 PM | Report abuse

That was me @ 2:00. Time for a nap.

Posted by: talent evaluator | July 10, 2008 2:01 PM


Darn...and I thought it was King Anonymous the Greatest. We definately need the return of the ever famous registration. Split personalities are too confusing.

Posted by: Sir Anonymous the Great | July 10, 2008 2:06 PM | Report abuse

I hope if registration ever returns, I can maintain my name. I have grown quite fond of it.

Unfortunately, having arrived after this highly touted registration went away, I have no way of knowing the logistics of it.

Posted by: Sir Anonymous the Great | July 10, 2008 2:04 PM

No problem. It was basically a land rush, but I don't think many people will try to beat you to this particular stake.

Even if they do, there were lots of ways to foil the system and we still had multiple Nate in the PDX's.

Posted by: talent evaluator | July 10, 2008 2:08 PM | Report abuse

The Skins are 8th on the TE list.....

8. Washington Redskins
Chris Cooley has quietly become one of the more productive players at his position during the past three seasons. Cooley has an excellent combination of size, strength and athleticism, with deceptive speed and agility as a route-runner and decent speed after the catch. He is great in the red zone and uses his strength and experience to get separation. Cooley is also a solid blocker who can set the edge in the running game and stays connected to defenders with aggression. The Redskins also drafted Fred Davis, an athletic, powerful player who will give QB Jason Campbell another fine target in the short and intermediate areas.

Posted by: zjfr2 | July 10, 2008 2:09 PM | Report abuse

Alex...I have no intentions of "tricking" anything. I just wondered since none of the other "names" on here were unique identifiers (like SSN's, etc), anyone can be anything that they want to be. Which brings me to the question of what value registrations brings. But you guys just love it, so it must be some kind of good.

Posted by: Sir Anonymous the Great | July 10, 2008 2:10 PM | Report abuse

And wr's ranking is......

21. Washington Redskins
New head coach Jim Zorn's offense will be similar to the one Mike Holmgren runs in Seattle, but look for the Redskins to emphasize the running game due to Zorn's lack of experience calling plays. Last year's starting wide receivers, Santana Moss and Antwaan Randle El, are short, undersized players who rely on experience, speed and quickness. Moss is an injury waiting to happen but he makes explosive plays and has a lot of big-play flair. If healthy, he is a big-time threat. Randle El is fast and dangerous in open space but struggles against big, physical corners and is at his best in the slot. The Redskins added two big receivers in the 2008 draft with the additions of Devin Thomas and Malcolm Kelly, and James Thrash has been a reliable role player during his career.

Posted by: zjfr2 | July 10, 2008 2:11 PM | Report abuse

Not that it matters, but zj, who did they have ranked ahead of the skins?

If they ranked shockey ahead of him, I'll probably throw up in my mouth a little...

Posted by: Greg | July 10, 2008 2:12 PM | Report abuse

"We do have an 'SVP' who doesn;t like me because I embarrassed him in a meeting by explaining carefully how a particular statement he made was not fact-based in any way and was actually 180 degrees inaccurate. He's probably at back of this because in the absence of my former boss, I notionally report to him (although he never speaks to me)." Redcoat

Also typically known as corporate political suicide.

Posted by: Anonymous | July 10, 2008 2:13 PM | Report abuse

thanks zjfr2.

Posted by: psps23 | July 10, 2008 2:14 PM | Report abuse

uh, we didnt have a WR score a TD till november last year. at it was james thrash for christ sake. need to earn respect first.

Posted by: Anonymous | July 10, 2008 2:20 PM | Report abuse

In order:

1. San Diego
2. Dallas
3. Cleveland
4. K.C.
5. New York Giants
The Giants won the Super Bowl even though Jeremy Shockey, one of the better tight ends in the league, was sidelined with an injury. Virtual unknown Kevin Boss stepped up in Shockey's absence and made several key receptions down the stretch and during the playoffs. Boss showed reliable hands and deceptive speed when he finally got the chance to play. As for Shockey, though he's one of the most outspoken players in the league, he's also one of the most productive tight ends in the league. He is a tough matchup for most linebackers and safeties; he can use his speed and athleticism to outmaneuver the linebackers and his strength to separate from defensive backs. Together, he and Boss form one of the best duos in the league.

6. Indy
7. Tennessee

The only one I have an issue with is TN. Crumpler is done and Scaife is mediocre at best, to rank them ahead of us is ludicrous.

Posted by: zjfr2 | July 10, 2008 2:20 PM | Report abuse

Candy is dandy. Anybody got a straw or dollar bill?

Posted by: Matt Jones | July 10, 2008 2:21 PM | Report abuse

lets just say they were a more peaceful time. When children of the blog would play in the blog streets and blog neighbors would come over and sip blog lemonaid.

Posted by: Alex35332 | July 10, 2008 2:21 PM | Report abuse

The Truth thinks it is stupid that people are crying about "anons". The Truth has never seen this many people cry about something so irrelevant, and yes, it was The Truth who posted this exact same post already.


The Truth wonders how old these people are.

Posted by: The Truth | July 10, 2008 2:27 PM | Report abuse

But you guys just love it, so it must be some kind of good.

Posted by: Sir Anonymous the Great | July 10, 2008 2:10 PM

It wasn't "real" registration where you gave them an e/m address and they verified it. You could register as "troll@troll.com" and you'd have the name troll. And you could come back tomorrow and register as "boob@boob.com." etc. It wasn't perfect, but it was better than what we have now.

Posted by: talent evaluator | July 10, 2008 2:27 PM | Report abuse

The same age as people who throw tantrums saying how everyone on the blog are "losers" and then says he's not coming back....only to come back.

Posted by: Skinz | July 10, 2008 2:28 PM | Report abuse

Classic ESPN. Boss had 9 catches last year, but suddenly he and Shock are one of the best duo's in the NFL. This is all because of his catch and run against a 37 year old safety Rodney Harrison in the super bowl. Geez.

Matt Jones, I actually wanted the skins to take a chance on this guy, if he were cut loose during the off-season. Not so much now...

Posted by: Greg | July 10, 2008 2:30 PM | Report abuse

I loved hearing a Eagles fan (not Adam) try and say recently, that the Eagles TE's were at the same level of the Skins Cowpies and Giants.

Posted by: Alex35332 | July 10, 2008 2:34 PM | Report abuse

It wasn't "real" registration where you gave them an e/m address and they verified it. You could register as "troll@troll.com" and you'd have the name troll. And you could come back tomorrow and register as "boob@boob.com." etc. It wasn't perfect, but it was better than what we have now.
Posted by: talent evaluator | July 10, 2008 2:27 PM

But, if you registered, nobody else could copy your exact name (I think).....I was dlhaze at work, and when registered again from home, for some reason I had to become dlhaze1 (different URL's maybe?)......so there SHOULD only be one nate in the PDX, if he was the first to sign it up.....

Posted by: dlhaze | July 10, 2008 2:36 PM | Report abuse

Dexter Manley did pretty good on powdery highs for us, I could care less what I guy does off the field if he produces on it and is a good team guy. If they don't throw Jones in jail I hope we take a chance on him.

Posted by: zjfr2 | July 10, 2008 2:36 PM | Report abuse

zjfr2 you dont think we have enough recievers?

Posted by: Riot905 | July 10, 2008 2:38 PM | Report abuse

zjfr2 you dont think we have enough recievers?


Posted by: Riot905 | July 10, 2008 2:38 PM

And won't the cowboys outbid us?

Posted by: dlhaze | July 10, 2008 2:40 PM | Report abuse

Also, registration kept enough random a-holes from just doing a hit and run.

Posted by: Alex35332 | July 10, 2008 2:40 PM | Report abuse

And won't the cowboys outbid us?

Posted by: dlhaze | July 10, 2008 2:40 PM
They definitely will because they are still looking for a WR. But with Moss,Randle El,Devin Thomas,Malcolm Kelly,James Thrash, and Anthony Mix almost certainly locking the spots down it highly unlikely we would get Jones

Posted by: Riot905 | July 10, 2008 2:44 PM | Report abuse

Registration added nothing in terms of security or validation (just come around tonight when the blog is slow and ask Nate about that one) and took away one of the more fun aspects of blogging -- using the name field as a persona (MSTC, notguy being prime examples, such as). It was still possible to fake the name, but often more trouble than it was worth.

If registration did anything, I'd be all for it. In the meantime, to quote bankokben, "Dude grow some stone's and put a fake name there."

Posted by: cload & daggar | July 10, 2008 2:50 PM | Report abuse

btw, theCyn obviously has some pull with the new boss:

"Officials Add Jalapeños to Salmonella Warning"

Posted by: cload & daggar | July 10, 2008 2:52 PM | Report abuse

The problem with Registration is that all the bigtime SJK's will find a way to beat it and it will inhibit normal people from chiming in.

If everyone was really that annoyed by anon posts they would ignore them and they'd go away. The copying of someones name is almost impossible to control as someone will put a "." or an extra space in a name or something.

Posted by: Skinz | July 10, 2008 2:53 PM | Report abuse

What do you guys think about our defense. Are there any significant holes that need to be addressed?

Posted by: Riot905 | July 10, 2008 2:53 PM | Report abuse

I think our D will get 1 shutout this year.

Posted by: Alex35332 | July 10, 2008 2:58 PM | Report abuse

"lets just say they were a more peaceful time. When children of the blog would play in the blog streets and blog neighbors would come over and sip blog lemonaid."

Posted by: Alex35332 | July 10, 2008 2:21 PM

This reminds me of the intro to Ice-T's "Body Count."

What happened?!?!?! I'm gone for a few days and actual life breaks out up here. Took me three hours to catch up.

Randoms: Hang in there BKben ... also, I'm thinking your little one is going to be the one who will be delivering the best medicine -- hilariousness.

cL has been up to the devil's bidniz!?!?! Way to go!

Redcoat ... I DID register my team, i.e., huh?

Grape Nuts. No grapes. No nuts. Just fiber. Delivers what they call in the toilet paper department: one and done.

Welcome back, Cynderful. Sorry about not winning the Vegetable-in-Chief job ... but it IS better for the constitution to eeeeease back into work after a long time away.

Also, I read something about how the NFLPA is trying to get a read on the new CBA from a Special Master* about how the rookie salary pool works in capped vs. uncapped years, such as. I figure the wait to get this answer might be delaying some of the first/second round guys.

* to random anon: "Special Master" would be a fine screen name. Yes, everyone is technically an anon, but having a name differentiates one anon from another in this chatroom for the insane called the RI.

Posted by: dcsween | July 10, 2008 3:00 PM | Report abuse

What do you guys think about our defense. Are there any significant holes that need to be addressed?

Posted by: Riot905 | July 10, 2008 2:53 PM

Another reliable corner ... they should plan on putting Rogers on the IR for the SEASON ... having both ligaments pop (can't remember which one is the two season recovery one) means trouble ... and too tempting to risk bringing him back too soon.

Posted by: dcsween | July 10, 2008 3:04 PM | Report abuse

So with this years draft being very O heavy on the front end does anyone else see us getting the D covered next season? I would not mind seeing us trade back again and get 3 D guys in the 2nd round next draft.

Posted by: Alex35332 | July 10, 2008 3:06 PM | Report abuse

Hey Sween! Welcome back! I hope you've learned that it never ever pays to venture too far from Insider nation. I thought I was over losing out on the big job thing, but I cried a little when I read your note, so I guess I'm not.

Posted by: Cindy | July 10, 2008 3:07 PM | Report abuse

"... It looked like such a simple move when Gibbs went back to his eponymous racing company ..."

Also, can someone help me understand the relationship btwn either "JGR" or "eponymous" and the definition of "alembic"?

My only previous association with Alembic is the maker of the fabled bass guitar.

Posted by: dcsween | July 10, 2008 3:08 PM | Report abuse

Another reliable corner ... they should plan on putting Rogers on the IR for the SEASON ... having both ligaments pop (can't remember which one is the two season recovery one) means trouble ... and too tempting to risk bringing him back too soon.

Posted by: dcsween | July 10, 2008 3:04 PM

I agree, last time I read they said Rogers was making great strides and they were aiming for him to get limited practice in training camp, but be ready for season opener have you heard anything different?

Posted by: Riot905 | July 10, 2008 3:09 PM | Report abuse

...being very O heavy on the front end...

Why did you bring me into this?

Posted by: Pam Anderson | July 10, 2008 3:10 PM | Report abuse

I agree with Alex and Sween...I am a little concerned about the defense, specifically the secondary. And I agree on Rogers; shut him down, get him good and healthy.

Posted by: Cindy | July 10, 2008 3:10 PM | Report abuse

In next years draft I believe they will concentrate on d-line, o-line, and linebackers. If you look at all the other positions we are pretty set

Posted by: Riot905 | July 10, 2008 3:12 PM | Report abuse

I think I said the D was going to be okay. Not sure however I am between this and the Nader Q&A and work so little distracted.

Posted by: Alex35332 | July 10, 2008 3:14 PM | Report abuse

Next year, they will concentrate on 'Best Player Available'. It is their tao.

Posted by: cload & daggar | July 10, 2008 3:14 PM | Report abuse

I like the addition of Sweiggert, but I definitely would have loved to see them get another vet. corner especially dealing with how Springs health is uncertain year to year

Posted by: Riot905 | July 10, 2008 3:16 PM | Report abuse

Cyn(thesizer), sorry if I made you cry ... again ... I know that yesterday must have been a little soul crushing ... having to think about Herm Edwards and all.

Riot905, as of today, my only prediction/thought about the next draft/free agency would be focused on players approaching the end of their careers and/or end of big contracts. I figure (that the Skins figure) that Springs falls into both categories. Kendall in the first category (though all the scout sites projected Chad Reinhart as a pro guard rather than tackle, so maybe that is covered). Phillip Daniels is nearing the end of his career with no obvious heir apparent. Finally, I'm dubious about whether they will extend Washington and/or Cornelius based on the size of their current respective contracts. So ... your guesses are probably the same as mine, but maybe for different reasons.

Posted by: dcsween | July 10, 2008 3:18 PM | Report abuse

I was dlhaze at work, and when registered again from home, for some reason I had to become dlhaze1 (different URL's maybe?)

Posted by: dlhaze | July 10, 2008 2:36 PM

You lack a criminal mind. You could have registered at home as dlhaze@troll.com or dlhaze@boob.com or .... I think all it needed to see was @ and .com.

Posted by: talent evaluator | July 10, 2008 3:19 PM | Report abuse

I'd love it if they could shut down Double move for a year but I don't think the reality of the NFL these days is people can't be kept on the shelf. Besides even though I suspect he'll have a bad year I think part of the process is the mental side of recovery. He has to learn to trust the knees again.

Posted by: Skinz | July 10, 2008 3:19 PM | Report abuse

I think that the defense, rather I should say, I hope that the defense tries to put a little more pressure on the opposing qb, than was done last year. And hopefully that pressure translates into sacks, as well as turnovers.

I think we'll see something very similar to last year.

Posted by: Greg | July 10, 2008 3:20 PM | Report abuse

Signing Jones just to keep him away from Dallas wouldn't hurt my feelings even if we cut him in training camp, hey, tampa has 47 qb's we can have 7 wr's through the preseason. I too want to see us add another legit vet at safety and corner, and one at LB too wouldn't hurt. Tired of the Stoutmire/Fox revolving door at backup safety and we need a corner, Rogers is out for the year whether the team is ready to admit it or not. I don't want to it turn into the Springs saga from two years ago where he was a gametime decision every week yet never played. We need another corner period.

Posted by: zjfr2 | July 10, 2008 3:22 PM | Report abuse

Maybe one of the four (it was four, right?) defensive backs they drafted in the late rounds will be firecracker, so that might be good (or Torrence).

Ideally, H.B. Blades will be able to transition seamless if/when London Fletcher, who hasn't missed a game in ten (nine?) seasons, hangs up his cleats (after ten (nine?) season).

Team still feels a little light at OLB. Maybe the draft, maybe free agency ... maybe additional needs arise if/when additional starters suffer season ending injuries ... wait a second ... we still have some playoff games to play!

Posted by: dcsween | July 10, 2008 3:23 PM | Report abuse

The key this year will be keeping our players healthy because last year we had an unreal season when it came to our starters being injured. Rogers, Rocky, Randy, Jansen, SEAN TAYLOR RIP, Campbell,and not even talking about the other starters who would play one week and be injured the next. We were good to get as far as we did last season

Posted by: Riot905 | July 10, 2008 3:24 PM | Report abuse

I'm with Cload on best player available and I like Sween's end-of-career, overpriced-guy approach. But my question is whether they do like they did this year -- trade down for more picks -- or attempt to trade up to make "the big plash." Or, worst, trade the picks for next year's Chad Johnson.

Posted by: talent evaluator | July 10, 2008 3:25 PM | Report abuse

I think they go all D in the draft next year. The facts are:

Springs - gone
Smoot - a year older
Washington - more than likely gone
Griffin - more than likely gone
Fletcher - a year older
McIntosh - how does he come back from the injury to already bad knees?
Rogers - how does he come back from his knee?
Safety - Landry is a stud but do we get a solid year from Doughty/Schweigert?

Lots and lots of holes there. I think unless James pans out we finally draft an end next year in the first or second round and then we add youth to the LB and Corner positions. Safety is easy to fix in FA and DT is actually not that bad off with Golston, Monty, and Alexander there maybe you just sign a solid vet to put in the rotation.

Posted by: zjfr2 | July 10, 2008 3:28 PM | Report abuse

I think they go all D in the draft next year. The facts are:

Springs - gone
Smoot - a year older
Washington - more than likely gone
Griffin - more than likely gone
Fletcher - a year older
McIntosh - how does he come back from the injury to already bad knees?
Rogers - how does he come back from his knee?
Safety - Landry is a stud but do we get a solid year from Doughty/Schweigert?

Lots and lots of holes there. I think unless James pans out we finally draft an end next year in the first or second round and then we add youth to the LB and Corner positions. Safety is easy to fix in FA and DT is actually not that bad off with Golston, Monty, and Alexander there maybe you just sign a solid vet to put in the rotation.

Posted by: zjfr2 | July 10, 2008 3:28 PM

Your right we are gonna have to get on the ball if we plan on filling those holes. But it probably wouldnt be in our best interest to overhaul, we would have to do it gradually or we would be in rebuild mode like San Fran

Posted by: Riot905 | July 10, 2008 3:35 PM | Report abuse

I can see Washington and or Griff resigning ah'la Jansen. Big bonus to bring down the contract

Posted by: Alex35332 | July 10, 2008 3:36 PM | Report abuse

Some kudos to the Skins for their offseason. The biggest "problem" headlines were Santana hung over for a day after overdoing a b-day bash ... a rookie TE oversleeping (yeah right) and Shawn Springs doing exactly what he did last year (which worked out fine).

Look at all the teams with real problems headlines;
Cincy (naturally)
Jax (Matt Jones busted for coke)
NYG (Burress, Shockey, etc)
GB (Favre, will he or won't he)
Pats (Faulk pleads to marijuana charge)
Raiders (naturally)

... and about 15 more

Skins did very well this offseason. Maybe that character thing does have some real value ...

Posted by: AL Zeke etc | July 10, 2008 3:39 PM | Report abuse

I think to write both Rocky, and Rogers off, is somewhat premature. Lets see how things pan out, before we throw them to the curb.

Posted by: Greg | July 10, 2008 3:40 PM | Report abuse

Maybe it's the ennui talking, but I'm thinking about a blog ultimatum....we need another goal.

Posted by: Cindy | July 10, 2008 1:48 PM

I personally believe that when you have something talking 'in-you-eye', like such as, that you should help the blog ultimatum by, uh, providing maps for the U.S. American blog childern.

Posted by: MsTeenSouthCarolina | July 10, 2008 3:44 PM | Report abuse

You wanted a signing, you've got a signing. Beep such as beep.

Posted by: Cindy | July 10, 2008 3:45 PM | Report abuse

Well, I met the guy and he seems pretty much straight up. I asked some 'pointed' questions and got surprisingly straight answers. He was invited in to interview by 'the SVP' (see my oilier post) so mayhap that 'corporate suicide' is what I committed, I'm just dying slowly.

Still all may not be lost, and you should never gamble with a Sicilian with death on the line!

Funny thing was when he asked me "what would you do with this business" by the time I finished he just said. "Oh, that's exactly the right thing to do. So why aren't you doing that?" to which I answered "Jim (the SVP) won't let me".

Was that the sound of soil on a (corporate) coffin lid I hear?

Posted by: Redcoat | July 10, 2008 3:45 PM | Report abuse

1) The Truth says, duh, a big hole is the loss of Sean Taylor.

2) The Truth says that anyone who really cares about The Truth pretending to get mad and pretending to leave forever only to come back the next day is questionable. The Truth says seriously, he doesn't care and was joking the whole time. The Truth also kept posting while he was "mad" and "gone". The Truth does not take this place seriously.

Posted by: The Truth | July 10, 2008 4:18 PM | Report abuse

What losers other than wrestlers refer to themselves in the third person. Oh yeah losers on blogs!!!!!!

Posted by: Anonymous | July 10, 2008 4:30 PM | Report abuse

1) The Truth says, duh, a big hole is the loss of Sean Taylor.

2) The Truth says that anyone who really cares about The Truth pretending to get mad and pretending to leave forever only to come back the next day is questionable. The Truth says seriously, he doesn't care and was joking the whole time. The Truth also kept posting while he was "mad" and "gone". The Truth does not take this place seriously.

Posted by: The Truth | July 10, 2008 4:18 PM

What losers other than wrestlers refer to themselves in the third person. Oh yeah losers on blogs!!!!!!

Posted by: | July 10, 2008 4:30 PM

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