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Campbell felt rushed into snap decisions

Quarterback Jason Campbell acknowledged that his concern about pass protection adversely affected his performance in the first half of the 14-6 loss to the Kansas City Chiefs at FedEx Field.

"It was tough at first," he said. "If you think back to the Carolina game, when Chris [Samuels] went down, we were getting hit a lot back there. Coming into [the Kansas City] game, you didn't know where we were going to be with the protection and everything that goes around it. Sometimes it causes you to think otherwise, or to think you have to do things a little faster than normal. That's where I got in trouble."

Coach Jim Zorn benched Campbell at halftime in favor of backup Todd Collins, who provided an early spark but also struggled in the Redskins' fourth loss to a previously winless team. Campbell said he would trust his linemen more during Monday night's game against the Philadelphia Eagles at FedEx.

"I had pre-thought some things in my head and it distracted me," said Campbell, who is completing 65.6 percent of his passes and has an 84.3 passer rating. "I was thinking that with a lot of young guys on the offensive line, and new faces, I felt like I had to make quicker decisions than usual, and sometimes that gets you in trouble. Instead of trying to do those things, I've got to just trust the guys and let them do their job, and I've got to do my job."

Chat with John Kent Cooke and Mike Wise today

John Kent Cooke and Mike Wise will take your questions in a chat at 2:15 p.m. today. Wise wrote about Cooke's failed bid for the Redskins on Wednesday.

Wilbon on Sherman Lewis

Enough with the Bingo jokes already; Mike Wilbon writes about why Sherman Lewis deserves respect for so much more than being a community volunteer.

By Jason Reid  |  October 22, 2009; 6:23 AM ET
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get rid of Cerrato not zorn!!!!!

Posted by: skinsfan0524 | October 22, 2009 6:29 AM | Report abuse

Campbell said he would trust his linemen more during Monday night's game against the Philadelphia Eagles at FedEx

I wouldn't trust Heyer at all.

Posted by: jm220 | October 22, 2009 7:01 AM | Report abuse

HUH??? He can’t be serious. This Dude is far from convincing when he claims to think too much.

In this casual fan's opinion, I think the problem is just the opposite -- in that he thinks too little of such things as the scoreboard, his teammates, the time on the clock, the blocking and protection schemes, the distances he needs to throw, the number of yards he needs for a first down, the routes his receivers are running, the defensive coverages and the like.

The evidence to date shows that while JC "just playing" the game -- the rest of those around him are trying to do their best to professionally compete and win.

The sooner this psychologically impaired headcase is gone, the better!!

Posted by: Vic1 | October 22, 2009 7:18 AM | Report abuse

"They went to the point of pulling out his contract and said, 'You have to do whatever the owner tells you to do,' " Largent told KJR radio in Seattle. "His choice was either to resign or to continue on under the current scenario." Beware of Danny and Vinnie.........they are snakes in the grass. No Head Coach will come here unless they have never coached before. Look at Oakland. They are the model the Redskins are building themselves to be. They are making great progress.

Posted by: donsilvester | October 22, 2009 7:19 AM | Report abuse

I liked the Wilbon column on Sherman Lewis. Lewis has (or, maybe, had) a lot to offer.

I would feel a lot better about the whole thing if Lewis were reporting to Jim Zorn instead of to Dan Snyder. Only one word describes this mess: Shabingus!

ESPN is going to be all over it on Monday night. They're going to expose Snyder for what he is.

Posted by: League-Source | October 22, 2009 7:26 AM | Report abuse

Look at Oakland. They are the model the Redskins are building themselves to be. They are making great progress.

Posted by: donsilvester | October 22, 2009 7:19 AM

Hey, I'll take it. Oakland beat Philly last Sunday. Don't think the 'Skins will be able to match that.

Posted by: League-Source | October 22, 2009 7:28 AM | Report abuse

MIKE WISE ARTICLE was AWESOME! Snyder loves money,...... What if JKC offered Snyder $1.6 Billion for the team,... would Snyder's love for the team over take his love for the dollar?????? It would be a 100% ROI in 10 years.... Not too bad!

CLEGG

Posted by: michael_b_clegg | October 22, 2009 7:39 AM | Report abuse

MIKE WISE ARTICLE was AWESOME! Snyder loves money,...... What if JKC offered Snyder $1.6 Billion for the team,... would Snyder's love for the team over take his love for the dollar?????? It would be a 100% ROI in 10 years.... Not too bad!

CLEGG

Posted by: michael_b_clegg | October 22, 2009 7:39 AM |

First problem is JKC does have any where near that much money.

Second Snyder is not selling the team, he will make way more money by owning the team for the next 35-40 years then he will for selling it now.

Posted by: Flounder21 | October 22, 2009 7:45 AM | Report abuse

"This team has a lot of talent"= power rankings

Posted by: Gweez | October 22, 2009 7:54 AM | Report abuse

In some ways you can't blame Campbell because human nature=self preservation. However he should have had more confidence in his teammates to do their jobs. Maybe the benching will have a positive effect on him and the team as a hole..if so this would be in my opinion Zorn's best coaching move...

Posted by: jcnjcnj | October 22, 2009 7:58 AM | Report abuse

This may be the end for me as a Skins fan. Seeing that video of Snyder on the day he bought the team sickened me. I felt physically ill. It was like walking in on your girlfriend and finding Dan's junk in her mouth. Would any self respecting dude still be dating her after 10 years of being defiled by Dan Snyder?

Posted by: Kenbeatrizz | October 22, 2009 7:58 AM | Report abuse

F*ck Snyder and all his riches. The more his antics get reported on, and the more he shows his true self to all the potential candidates out there, no one will want this job. All this nonsense has put a tarnish on this franchise that will take maybe even another decade to clean off. Thats if he changes his personality and ideology of how things should be done. I love the team but I hate this guy. We are the joke of the league and this dude continues to do the most outlandish, stupid sh*t. I think there may be darker days ahead.

Posted by: FedorEm | October 22, 2009 7:59 AM | Report abuse

All QB's get hit... you would have though he knew that, he is supposed to be a football player.

Posted by: Burrasta1 | October 22, 2009 8:00 AM | Report abuse

In some ways you can't blame Campbell because human nature=self preservation. However he should have had more confidence in his teammates to do their jobs. Maybe the benching will have a positive effect on him and the team as a hole..if so this would be in my opinion Zorn's best coaching move...

Posted by: jcnjcnj | October 22, 2009 7:58 AM |

He only got sacked once and he wasn't hurried very often, he was scared you can't play that way.

When the o-line push the ends up the field past you, you step up in the pocket and make a throw. JC gets scared at this point and has problems completing a pass.

Posted by: Flounder21 | October 22, 2009 8:02 AM | Report abuse

Yeh, Campbell's problem has always been mis-interpreting the pocket collapse.

He needed to watch more Marino & Cunningham.

Posted by: DikShuttle | October 22, 2009 8:05 AM | Report abuse

I agree jcnj. To quote MJ, "When thy say, "Why, why, tell em that it's human nature."

No? Too soon?

Posted by: Gweez | October 22, 2009 8:09 AM | Report abuse

He rushed his passes, didn't step into them and this made him inaccurate. I could see it happening. He was throwing in a phone booth. I don't blame the guy, but I expect more out of a QB with experience. He's got to get up there in the pocket, make quick decisions, and get the ball out in a hurry. Now, more than ever, he needs to use that timer in his head: 1-2-3, and once he gets past three he should be looking to dump it off, pull it down and run with it, or throw it away. He does not have the luxury of waiting.

Something I have noticed with the blocking of this offensive line is they have a tendency of bunching up. The tackles should be trying to take more of the outside shoulder of their defender and let the guards take the stuff coming inside. This is just an observation, but it seems like they get beat more to the outside than in. Maybe they even need to line up just a smidge or two wider.

Posted by: RedSkinHead | October 22, 2009 8:10 AM | Report abuse

so because JC 'thought' he was going to get hit, he was rushing his throws?? Not that he was getting hit, but he thought he was going to get hit...

um....are you kidding me with this?? Yikes....thats just....wow...

Posted by: BeantownGreg1 | October 22, 2009 8:18 AM | Report abuse

I'm not sure where all this Zorn love is coming from. I mean, sure, it kinda smarts to see the unic walking around. But remember this is the guy who calls I formation in the end zone.

And he is responsible for the putrid play calling AFTER he threw Collins in there.

There is no explaining away this guy's horribleness. Bingo Lewis may not be the answer, but that's no reason to exonorate (sp?!>?) Zoron the Moron.

Posted by: DikShuttle | October 22, 2009 8:21 AM | Report abuse

In some ways you can't blame Campbell because human nature=self preservation. However he should have had more confidence in his teammates to do their jobs. Maybe the benching will have a positive effect on him and the team as a hole..if so this would be in my opinion Zorn's best coaching move...

Posted by: jcnjcnj | October 22, 2009 7:58 AM

Fair enough, and maybe in the short-term this might work a little (I remain skeptical, though).

But the team's problems go way beyond this stuff. The way the front office has handled everything this season has just been an absolute farce. You have reporters like Matt Mosely saying they have never seen anything like this (referring to bringing in a long-retired coach to call plays). You have Tony Dungy saying he does not remember anything like this happening in his NFL experience, anywhere. All that is a pretty good indication that this front office (including Snyder) has no idea what it is doing, and is not following any kind of long-term plan (at least not one that makes any sense, anyway).

My point? Don't get your hopes up for the season, the franchise remains broken.

Posted by: hithere1 | October 22, 2009 8:21 AM | Report abuse

Greg,

You can't play this game scared, A. Rogers has been sacked 25 times and hit many more but he still puts up points and yards because he is not scared.

Posted by: Flounder21 | October 22, 2009 8:22 AM | Report abuse

Not the most knowledgeable guy on College Football but I was looking at this list of prospects....Not too many OL on here. Vinny was saying last years OL class was week. According to this guy, this years is week too.

http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/news;_ylt=AoUDQizolgJzFSoCPvMC7L5DubYF?slug=ys-nfpsuper30102109&prov=yhoo&type=lgns

Posted by: FedorEm | October 22, 2009 8:22 AM | Report abuse

This may be the end for me as a Skins fan. Seeing that video of Snyder on the day he bought the team sickened me. I felt physically ill. It was like walking in on your girlfriend and finding Dan's junk in her mouth. Would any self respecting dude still be dating her after 10 years of being defiled by Dan Snyder?

Posted by: Kenbeatrizz | October 22, 2009 7:58 AM

I did not expect you to take that there. That was weird.

Don't ask, don't tell bro.

Posted by: hithere1 | October 22, 2009 8:26 AM | Report abuse

Two things:

Maybe we should put a dress on JC when he goes out on the field and;

for all those going to the game, they should chant "WE WANT COOKE!" "WE WANT COOKE!" for the entire game.

Posted by: Ireland2 | October 22, 2009 8:27 AM | Report abuse

You know what? I thoroughly enjoyed Tony McGee's show last night with Gary Clark, charles Mann and Jim Brown (JB). It was so laid back and funny and the most enjoyable thing related to the Skins that I have seen in quite a while. Their assessments of the situation were acute, and lets face it - as pros they are unassailable in this town. Gary talked about the fact that the 3 amigos are being given the chance to "develop." He scoffed at it - back in the day, the team had depth, so the players HAD to deliver at their position or the guy behind them would. Were Alvin Garrett, charlie Brown, Art Monk, GC and Ricky Sanders given the chance to develop? Uh, no. Virgil Seay never did deliver and was quickly shown the door. Malcolm Barnwell lasted a year. Charles Mann (a 2nd rounder) pointed out that beyond the great drafts of 81 & 82, every year linemen were taken in the first few rounds - even though we all know those teams were stacked. As Mann stated (paraphrased) - "Even though Dexter and I were near the tops of our games, there was always a young talented DE waiting to take our jobs." tony MGee pointed out that in 82 & 83 - years that he had 10+ sacks, Mann was brought in to replace him (he left out that mendenhall had left unders ome weird circumstances to become a carpenter in Canada). They talked about the 83 draft being a draft where the addressed needs - DG to replace Jeris White, C. Mann to replace Mendenhall, etc.

Its a nice laid back, not terribly professionally produced show - the audience questions were comical. But I think I'll keep watching. the universal agreement was that addressing the lines - both O & D, masks all kinds of sins. The FO addressed the Dline but neglected (for years) the o-line. And that is why all of this silliness is happening.

regards -

-hgr

Posted by: HughGRection | October 22, 2009 8:29 AM | Report abuse

flound, yeah, thats pretty much it in a nutshell, he was beaten before he even took the field....he was so up in his own mind, that no matter what happened he wasn't going to be effective.

fedor, way too early to tell who is gonna be there at the end, the Combine/pro-days are a long way's off, 4 months at least. There could be some juniors who jump ship....

Posted by: BeantownGreg1 | October 22, 2009 8:30 AM | Report abuse

"...get rid of Cerrato not Zorn!"

Actually, they both should go.

Zorn has been undermined and will never cover whatever authority he didn't have in the first place.

Cerrato, on the otherhand, has failed massively, and should be sent packing.

Posted by: MistaMoe | October 22, 2009 8:34 AM | Report abuse

Fellow long suffering Redskins Fans, I have a proposal: let’s set aside the week of 25-31 October, 2009 as Redskins Rage days. These days should be set aside for brooding over the miserable depths into which Dan Snyder has driven the Redskins. Further, proactive community action is suggested; for those who, in protest to our feckless owner, chose not to go the Eagles game on the 26th, drive by Dan Snyder’s mansion @ 17000 block, River Road, Potomac, MD*. It will take much less time than suffering through the abysmal traffic jams Snyder has created @ FedEx Field. Blowing the car’s horn in three loud beeps, signifying “Sell the Team” is highly recommended; if possible travel in convoy and blow horns in unison! For those unable to participate on the 26th , pick another day next week and join the fun. Hopefully massive traffic jams will be created allowing Snyder to experience some of the enjoyment of a day at FedEx!

Please forward this suggestion to fellow fans and other websites/blogs/facebook/twitter. Lets all do our part!

*virtual map @ http://virtualglobetrotting.com/map/dan-snyders-mansion/view/?service=0

Posted by: rudymr | October 22, 2009 8:36 AM | Report abuse

MOE! where ya been? grats on the ALCS...lets hope for a good WS...

Posted by: BeantownGreg1 | October 22, 2009 8:36 AM | Report abuse

When the o-line push the ends up the field past you, you step up in the pocket and make a throw. JC gets scared at this point and has problems completing a pass.


Posted by: Flounder21 | October 22, 2009 8:02 AM | Report abuse

What pocket is he stepping up into? Montgomery and Rabach get pushed into the backfield on every play. Why do you think Todd kept getting his passes knocked down? Nobody is going to be good with this line. We're boned until we fix it.

Posted by: PAskinsfan17 | October 22, 2009 8:40 AM | Report abuse

"A. Rogers has been sacked 25 times and hit many more but he still puts up points and yards because he is not scared."


If he's scared, then he--Jason Campbell--needs to take the Patrick Ramsey route out of town as well.

I've watched the replay of the Falcons v. Bear and Saints v. Jints games twice, and Brees, Cutler, Ryan, and Manning are hit in some kind of way on just about every other passing play.

Giving the amount of blitzing that goes on, no quarterback is going to have a 'free' shot.

If Campbell is afraid to step up in the pocket and deliver the ball in the face of pressure, well, he's done in this league as that's what it takes to succeed.


Posted by: MistaMoe | October 22, 2009 8:41 AM | Report abuse

What pocket is he stepping up into? Montgomery and Rabach get pushed into the backfield on every play. Why do you think Todd kept getting his passes knocked down? Nobody is going to be good with this line. We're boned until we fix it.

Posted by: PAskinsfan17 | October 22, 2009 8:40 AM |

Give me a break he had great pockets on the two throws he missed.

How do you explain what Rogers does in GB with a worse O-Line?

Posted by: Flounder21 | October 22, 2009 8:43 AM | Report abuse

mista,

Manning was getting crushed but he just stays in there and throws bullets.

Posted by: Flounder21 | October 22, 2009 8:44 AM | Report abuse

"If Campbell is afraid to step up in the pocket and deliver the ball in the face of pressure, well, he's done in this league as that's what it takes to succeed"

This is what seperates the goods/journeymen from the greats. Going into the Super Bowl Brady KNEW he was in for a pounding, he knew that the ONLY way the Giants beat them is to absolutely demolish him on every play. Can't play scared, just can't...can't win with a guy like that...

Posted by: BeantownGreg1 | October 22, 2009 8:45 AM | Report abuse

If, Moe? If?

fork 'im.

Posted by: DikShuttle | October 22, 2009 8:46 AM | Report abuse

bean

"MOE! where ya been?"


I battled 'swine flu' for about seven days.

Then, in the middle of it all, my computer crashed, so now I've got to go and replace the harddrive.

Thanks for the ALCS nod...but the Phillies are "The Truth".

Phils v. Yanks will be a 'steelcage' match of nothing but the best players at so many positions from Jeter to Rollins to Howard to A-Rod.

We'll see what happens.

Posted by: MistaMoe | October 22, 2009 8:48 AM | Report abuse

What pocket is he stepping up into? Montgomery and Rabach get pushed into the backfield on every play. Why do you think Todd kept getting his passes knocked down? Nobody is going to be good with this line. We're boned until we fix it.

Posted by: PAskinsfan17 | October 22, 2009 8:40 AM |

Give me a break he had great pockets on the two throws he missed.

How do you explain what Rogers does in GB with a worse O-Line?

Posted by: Flounder21

I agree with the Flounder on this one. He had time, but he was hearing footsteps. When a QB is thinking more about getting hit than delivering the football, that's bad news. I think they can help him by putting him in the shotgun or rolling him out, but there will be plays when he has to stand in the pocket and get hit.

Posted by: RedSkinHead | October 22, 2009 8:51 AM | Report abuse

Ya Campbell that's the problem. That's why you miss wide open guys...........

FIRE ALL OF THEM!

Posted by: gixxer998 | October 22, 2009 8:53 AM | Report abuse

Redskin,

I was thinking the same thing if your o-line is not that great, design plays to get the ball out quicker and use the shotgun.

Posted by: Flounder21 | October 22, 2009 8:53 AM | Report abuse

a-rod seems to have somewhat figured out how to hit in the playoffs...agreed, should be a good show.....sigh....

Posted by: BeantownGreg1 | October 22, 2009 8:55 AM | Report abuse

flounder21

"Manning was getting crushed, but he just stays in there and throws bullets."

And that's the nature of quarterbacking the modern NFL.

Zorn could've helped Campbell by using more 'max protection' or 'unbalanced' line formations to give him extra blocking, but Campbell just seems shellshocked.

And a gun shy gunslinger never shoots straight.

Posted by: MistaMoe | October 22, 2009 8:56 AM | Report abuse

I did not expect you to take that there. That was weird.

Don't ask, don't tell bro.

Posted by: hithere1 | October 22, 2009 8:26 AM | Report abuse

Block it out all you want, but every time you pay $35 for a parking pass or $10 for a beer, every time we lose a Ryan Clark and replace with an Adam Archuleta, Snyder is essentially saying, "How my D taste?"

Posted by: Kenbeatrizz | October 22, 2009 8:56 AM | Report abuse

What's the word on the Levi Jones signing?

Let me guess?: they somehow found money to sign a guy who could've been in the house from day one?

The comedy with this team kills.

Posted by: MistaMoe | October 22, 2009 8:59 AM | Report abuse

FIRE ALL OF THEM!

Posted by: gixxer998 | October 22, 2009 8:53 AM

gixxer = Dan Snyder

Posted by: League-Source | October 22, 2009 9:00 AM | Report abuse

What's the word on the Levi Jones signing?

Let me guess?: they somehow found money to sign a guy who could've been in the house from day one?

The comedy with this team kills.

Posted by: MistaMoe | October 22, 2009 8:59

If they'd had him on the team when the season opened, he'd be injured by now. Good that they waited until they actually needed him. With him on board, we'll tear Philly apart.

Posted by: League-Source | October 22, 2009 9:03 AM | Report abuse

Block it out all you want, but every time you pay $35 for a parking pass or $10 for a beer, every time we lose a Ryan Clark and replace with an Adam Archuleta, Snyder is essentially saying, "How my D taste?"

Posted by: Kenbeatrizz | October 22, 2009 8:56 AM

As in, "How my Defense taste?"

Posted by: hithere1 | October 22, 2009 9:03 AM | Report abuse

ken, are you being forced to attend the games, and drink the beer? is someone holding your arm behind your back??

Posted by: BeantownGreg1 | October 22, 2009 9:06 AM | Report abuse

This may be the end for me as a Skins fan. Seeing that video of Snyder on the day he bought the team sickened me. I felt physically ill. It was like walking in on your girlfriend and finding Dan's junk in her mouth. Would any self respecting dude still be dating her after 10 years of being defiled by Dan Snyder?

Posted by: Kenbeatrizz | October 22, 2009 7:58 AM | Report abuse
_______________________________
"If ifs and buts were candy and nuts, oh, what a Christmas we'd have."

Well played, Ken.

Posted by: InRealAmerica | October 22, 2009 9:07 AM | Report abuse

"I had pre-thought some things in my head and it distracted me,"

Translation: "I was scared to death and I was running fior my life."

What a WIMP Campbell is!

Posted by: whatyoutalkinboutman | October 22, 2009 9:09 AM | Report abuse

This may be the end for me as a Skins fan. Seeing that video of Snyder on the day he bought the team sickened me. I felt physically ill. It was like walking in on your girlfriend and finding Dan's junk in her mouth. Would any self respecting dude still be dating her after 10 years of being defiled by Dan Snyder?

Posted by: Kenbeatrizz | October 22, 2009 7:58 AM

It's times like this that I say, hey, just a game bro. When you start seeing images of Dan Snyder having sexual relations with your significant other, time to step back from the edge. Of the ledge. And the crackpipe, it should be put down as well.

Posted by: hithere1 | October 22, 2009 9:11 AM | Report abuse

a-rod seems to have somewhat figured out how to hit in the playoffs...agreed, should be a good show.....sigh....

Posted by: BeantownGreg1

beantown you like the Yanks?...

Posted by: jcnjcnj | October 22, 2009 9:12 AM | Report abuse

What's the word on the Levi Jones signing?

Let me guess?: they somehow found money to sign a guy who could've been in the house from day one?

The comedy with this team kills.

Posted by: MistaMoe | October 22, 2009 8:59 A

It's strange that there hasn't been news on this yet. I figured that Jones has been available so long to an extent because of his contract demands.

Also, I would like to know how much Jone's signing was on the recommendation of Sherm Lewis?

Posted by: TWISI | October 22, 2009 9:14 AM | Report abuse

no...sox fan...can't stand that bloated payroll of a club...j/k moe....actually appreciate jeter, and how he plays it....

Posted by: BeantownGreg1 | October 22, 2009 9:16 AM | Report abuse

Also, I would like to know how much Jone's signing was on the recommendation of Sherm Lewis?

Posted by: TWISI

I think the Jones signing was out of necessity...

Posted by: jcnjcnj | October 22, 2009 9:18 AM | Report abuse

This is what seperates the goods/journeymen from the greats. Going into the Super Bowl Brady KNEW he was in for a pounding, he knew that the ONLY way the Giants beat them is to absolutely demolish him on every play. Can't play scared, just can't...can't win with a guy like that...

Posted by: BeantownGreg1 | October 22, 2009 8:45 AM

Then what happened Bean?

Posted by: mack1 | October 22, 2009 9:18 AM | Report abuse

no...sox fan...can't stand that bloated payroll of a club...j/k moe....actually appreciate jeter, and how he plays it....

Posted by: BeantownGreg1 |

OK..fair enough, cause i was gonna say be careful up there they are tough on Yankees fans here in the Apple we give Sox fans much grief...

Posted by: jcnjcnj | October 22, 2009 9:21 AM | Report abuse

mack, brady turtled and played scared....just like jc admitted to doing above..

Brady stood in the pocket got pounded, ALL GAME LONG..thats what QB's are supposed to do in the face of a rush...remember what Gibbs used to say about Joey T, he's seen him get his teeth literally knocked out, and lead the team to victory...I don't see that with jc....

that clear things up?

Posted by: BeantownGreg1 | October 22, 2009 9:22 AM | Report abuse

Then what happened Bean?
Posted by: mack1 |

The Giants got lucky...

Posted by: jcnjcnj | October 22, 2009 9:24 AM | Report abuse

The problem with all this is that the problems which are most visible are never the ones at the top of the priority list. So here is my list of problems, roughly ranked in order from most pressing to least pressing.

1. Dan "Mr. Burns" Snyder - the organization, or lack of it, is a reflection on the owner
2. Vinny "Smithers" Cerrato - Cerrato may be an ok talent evaluator, but he can't run a football organization. Period.
3. The Structure - Cerrato's position is, on paper, equivalent to Bill Parcells. Bill elected to bring in a well regarded GM, something that the Skins have failed to emulate.
4. Jim Zorn - like him or not, he is responsible for holding his staff accountable, and right now no one can convince me that the coaching staff is as good as it should be. (You've got a DC who might get passed over for the HC position? What? And when is the Devil finally going to cash in his deal with Danny Smith?)
5. The Players - sure, its a losing organization, but you are compensated to perform, not to get the warm fuzzies about your team. So do it.

Posted by: mattsoundworld | October 22, 2009 9:26 AM | Report abuse


What's the word on the Levi Jones signing?

Let me guess?: they somehow found money to sign a guy who could've been in the house from day one?

The comedy with this team kills.

Posted by: MistaMoe | October 22, 2009 8:59

If they'd had him on the team when the season opened, he'd be injured by now. Good that they waited until they actually needed him. With him on board, we'll tear Philly apart.

Posted by: League-Source

I hope that was said tongue-in-cheek, or else you need to discontinue the medication right away. Jones won't even play on Monday night. You think they pull an offensive lineman off his living room sofa and put him in the starting lineup with less than a week of practice under his belt? If we're lucky, he's in good enough shape to contribute after the bye. As for his salary, I would imagine the slary is kind of prorated, so he is only being paid for the weeks of the season he is with the team: 10 weeks.

Posted by: RedSkinHead | October 22, 2009 9:27 AM | Report abuse

I hope that was said tongue-in-cheek, or else you need to discontinue the medication right away. Jones won't even play on Monday night. You think they pull an offensive lineman off his living room sofa and put him in the starting lineup with less than a week of practice under his belt?

Posted by: RedSkinHead | October 22, 2009 9:27 AM |

I'll save this naive post and we'll discuss next Tuesday. But do you think a team would pull a guy out of a bingo parlor and have him call plays in two weeks?

Posted by: League-Source | October 22, 2009 9:34 AM | Report abuse

Peyton Manning has superior protection, but if he doesn't go to the line and change the play, he'll often get creamed.

You depend on your line for that one second of set-up time, when you drop back to take a look at the field. After that, it's all you. And if you don't get that time to drop back and view the field, and you don't view the vield very well, you're sacked.

It's everybody's fault, from the Danny and the Vinny down to Jason Campbell. Campbell, the players, Coach Zorn freely admit that, and own up to that. The Danny and the Vinny? With those two jokers, I don't think it sinks in.

Posted by: Meepo | October 22, 2009 9:40 AM | Report abuse

Man, what a circus. More thoughts on what it will take to have Snyder keep his nose out of things and hire a real GM:
It’s pretty obvious that Zorn is on his way out (barring some sort of miraculous 10 game win streak). Unless he fires Vinny and promises to let a new GM (not just a yes man to Danny) run things, he’s going to continue to see that any coach with any amount of experience and self respect will turn down any sort of job offer. He will end up finding someone though if he throws out enough money. The next thing that could wake him up could be the draft. Looks like we are setting things up for another top 5 pick….I am guessing that whoever they take could end up pulling an Elway or Eli Manning and just flat out say “Nope! I will not play for your team. Thanks but no thanks….I will sit out a year end re-enter the next draft or play baseball or something. Your team is a joke and I won’t kill my career for you”. I can just see Snyder drooling over Tebow or Bradford and having them say no thanks. I think I could applaud that if it would wake Snyder up. So you heard it here first – my doom and gloom draft prediction; no first rounders will agree to play for Snyder!

Posted by: dlhaze1 | October 22, 2009 9:41 AM | Report abuse

JC has an excuse rolodex. I used to like the guy, now he is a mediocre QB that will have the career arc of Patrick Ramsey. So F him along with the front office. You'd think these losers would get along, they deserve each other.

Posted by: ToddStinkston | October 22, 2009 9:42 AM | Report abuse

What's the word on the Levi Jones signing?

Let me guess?: they somehow found money to sign a guy who could've been in the house from day one?

The comedy with this team kills.

Posted by: MistaMoe | October 22, 2009 8:59

They only signed Levi Jones because they know Chris Samuels is done for the season -and probably retiring.

Posted by: Lisa_R | October 22, 2009 9:43 AM | Report abuse

"I can just see Snyder drooling over Tebow or Bradford and having them say no thanks"

How did that work out for Crabtree....how is his plan on re-entering the draft next year going...oh wait...

Posted by: BeantownGreg1 | October 22, 2009 9:43 AM | Report abuse

Actually, they both should go.

Zorn has been undermined and will never cover whatever authority he didn't have in the first place.

Cerrato, on the otherhand, has failed massively, and should be sent packing.

Posted by: MistaMoe


Agree on both but the timing with Zorn is not good timing...let a new GM determine who and when comes in and goes.

Posted by: skinsfan0524 | October 22, 2009 9:44 AM | Report abuse

Joe Gibbs could be taking a Tuna-style role in D.C.
Posted by Mike Florio on October 22, 2009 9:40 AM ET
As the Washington Redskins continue to quickly unravel, the man who delivered the team's only three Super Bowl trophies could soon be coming back.

Again.

There's a rumor making the rounds that two-time former head coach Joe Gibbs could be returning in a role similar to the one occupied by Bill Parcells in Miami. Gibbs would be responsible for hiring a G.M. and a head coach, and otherwise stabilizing the franchise without grinding away as a head coach.

We reported earlier this month that owner Daniel Snyder still consults with Gibbs, and that the two men had dinner in Charlotte the night before the Redskins' loss to the Panthers.

For now, it's just a rumor. And it possibly flows from the fact that it makes a lot of sense.

Then again, the fact that it makes so much sense probably means it won't happen

Posted by: 4thFloor | October 22, 2009 9:46 AM | Report abuse

Posted by: leevi98 | October 22, 2009 9:46 AM | Report abuse

Joe Gibbs could be taking a Tuna-style role in D.C.
Posted by Mike Florio on October 22, 2009 9:40 AM ET
As the Washington Redskins continue to quickly unravel, the man who delivered the team's only three Super Bowl trophies could soon be coming back.

Again.

There's a rumor making the rounds that two-time former head coach Joe Gibbs could be returning in a role similar to the one occupied by Bill Parcells in Miami. Gibbs would be responsible for hiring a G.M. and a head coach, and otherwise stabilizing the franchise without grinding away as a head coach.

We reported earlier this month that owner Daniel Snyder still consults with Gibbs, and that the two men had dinner in Charlotte the night before the Redskins' loss to the Panthers.

For now, it's just a rumor. And it possibly flows from the fact that it makes a lot of sense.

Then again, the fact that it makes so much sense probably means it won't happen.

Posted by: TWISI | October 22, 2009 9:46 AM | Report abuse

"WWWWAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!"

Way to be a leader JC

Posted by: ThatGuy2 | October 22, 2009 9:47 AM | Report abuse

It’s pretty obvious that Zorn is on his way out (barring some sort of miraculous 10 game win streak). Unless he fires Vinny and promises to let a new GM (not just a yes man to Danny) run things, he’s going to continue to see that any coach with any amount of experience and self respect will turn down any sort of job offer. He will end up finding someone though if he throws out enough money. The next thing that could wake him up could be the draft. Looks like we are setting things up for another top 5 pick….I am guessing that whoever they take could end up pulling an Elway or Eli Manning and just flat out say “Nope! I will not play for your team. Thanks but no thanks….I will sit out a year end re-enter the next draft or play baseball or something. Your team is a joke and I won’t kill my career for you”. I can just see Snyder drooling over Tebow or Bradford and having them say no thanks. I think I could applaud that if it would wake Snyder up. So you heard it here first – my doom and gloom draft prediction; no first rounders will agree to play for Snyder!

Posted by: dlhaze1 | October 22, 2009 9:41 AM

Well, your "doom and gloom" is actually a rosy scenario. He has lost all credibility: he tried the first approach when he hired Marty. But he fired him after a year. And now with trying to screw Zorn out of his salary, no one is really going to want to come here "for the money." Snyder's now known for bait and switch.

As for the first rounder, the NFL has the draft so stacked against the players that Snyder will get whoever he drafts. Even Crabtree couldn't buck the system.

Posted by: League-Source | October 22, 2009 9:48 AM | Report abuse

How did that work out for Crabtree....how is his plan on re-entering the draft next year going...oh wait...
Posted by: BeantownGreg1 | October 22, 2009 9:43 AM

Bit different Greg….Niners aren’t a circus, and he just wanted more money….wasn’t worried about playing for a cr@ppy team or killing his chances for a decent career…..

Posted by: dlhaze1 | October 22, 2009 9:48 AM | Report abuse

Hmmm...not sure if I would get excited about this or not just yet.

Posted by: will_ga | October 22, 2009 9:49 AM | Report abuse

bean

"a-rod seems to have somewhat figured out how to hit in the playoffs..."

Yeah, but I think the Phils are incredibly good.

They and the Ynanks match up very evenly at every position but closer.

And what any fan should hope for is a championship game featuring stars v. stars.

Hopefully, the Evil Empire will get it done tonite.

Posted by: MistaMoe | October 22, 2009 9:50 AM | Report abuse

So you heard it here first – my doom and gloom draft prediction; no first rounders will agree to play for Snyder!

Posted by: dlhaze1

That's BS...1st rounders only $ee Dollar$...they all feel they are the best and what happen to the others won't happen to me..that called youth bravdo..in the end money will rule...

Posted by: jcnjcnj | October 22, 2009 9:50 AM | Report abuse

I would be pro gibbs in tuna role....its what should have happened 5 years ago.

Posted by: chrislarry | October 22, 2009 9:50 AM | Report abuse

JC has an excuse rolodex. I used to like the guy, now he is a mediocre QB that will have the career arc of Patrick Ramsey. So F him along with the front office. You'd think these losers would get along, they deserve each other.

Posted by: ToddStinkston | October 22, 2009 9:42 AM

Excuse rolodex. Nice image, but so Twentieth Century. Today he has them on speed dial.

Posted by: League-Source | October 22, 2009 9:53 AM | Report abuse

Hi guys.

I heard Chucky Gruden on Mikex2 this morning on my drive in to work and they gave him numerous opportunities to talk about Redskins dysfunction and it's explicit link to the Danny. He evaded them all.

I think you know who wants the job, now you're just haggling about the price!

Posted by: Redcoat | October 22, 2009 9:54 AM | Report abuse

Hopefully, the Evil Empire will get it done tonite.

No doubt....

Posted by: jcnjcnj | October 22, 2009 9:54 AM | Report abuse

agreed on gibbs....

I have a feeling that Snyder has had his eye's opened to the REALITY of this franchise...Tony K, and Rich Gannon, basically shoving his face in the shti that this team is, I think Snyder isn't going to ignore it.....

Posted by: BeantownGreg1 | October 22, 2009 9:54 AM | Report abuse

I would be pro gibbs in tuna role....its what should have happened 5 years ago.


Exactly...

Posted by: jcnjcnj | October 22, 2009 9:56 AM | Report abuse

Im pro 'anyone-with-a-pulse-not-named-Vinny-Cerrato-who-will-hire-a-GM' for our Football Operations Guy.

Posted by: mattsoundworld | October 22, 2009 9:56 AM | Report abuse

so because JC 'thought' he was going to get hit, he was rushing his throws?? Not that he was getting hit, but he thought he was going to get hit...

um....are you kidding me with this?? Yikes....thats just....wow...

Posted by: BeantownGreg1 | October 22, 2009 8:18 AM


Seriously...you watch the games and you can see Campbell's eyes go to his feet when he is being rushed, he is worrying about taking that hit to the knee...cant have that with our starting QB, watch Big Ben, Favre, HELL even Matt Cassell, they step up deliver the ball and take the hit like men...Completion!

Posted by: mhartz1 | October 22, 2009 9:58 AM | Report abuse

I would be pro Gibbs in a Snyder role and pro Snyder in a Cooke (Jr.) role.

Posted by: League-Source | October 22, 2009 9:58 AM | Report abuse

Joe Gibbs could be taking a Tuna-style role in D.C.
Posted by Mike Florio on October 22, 2009 9:40 AM ET
As the Washington Redskins continue to quickly unravel, the man who delivered the team's only three Super Bowl trophies could soon be coming back.

Again.

There's a rumor making the rounds that two-time former head coach Joe Gibbs could be returning in a role similar to the one occupied by Bill Parcells in Miami. Gibbs would be responsible for hiring a G.M. and a head coach, and otherwise stabilizing the franchise without grinding away as a head coach.

We reported earlier this month that owner Daniel Snyder still consults with Gibbs, and that the two men had dinner in Charlotte the night before the Redskins' loss to the Panthers.

For now, it's just a rumor. And it possibly flows from the fact that it makes a lot of sense.

Then again, the fact that it makes so much sense probably means it won't happen.

Posted by: michaelr1171 | October 22, 2009 9:59 AM | Report abuse

Fellow long suffering Redskins Fans, I have a proposal: let’s set aside the week of 25-31 October, 2009 as Redskins Rage days. These days should be set aside for brooding over the miserable depths into which Dan Snyder has driven the Redskins. Further, proactive community action is suggested; for those who, in protest to our feckless owner, chose not to go the Eagles game on the 26th, drive by Dan Snyder’s mansion @ 17000 block, River Road, Potomac, MD*. It will take much less time than suffering through the abysmal traffic jams Snyder has created @ FedEx Field. Blowing the car’s horn in three loud beeps, signifying “Sell the Team” is highly recommended; if possible travel in convoy and blow horns in unison! For those unable to participate on the 26th , pick another day next week and join the fun. Hopefully massive traffic jams will be created allowing Snyder to experience some of the enjoyment of a day at FedEx!

Please forward this suggestion to fellow fans and other websites/blogs/facebook/twitter. Lets all do our part!

-----------------------------------

This may be a good idea on a local level, but it's small potatoes compared to a stadium chanting "WE WANT COOKE" or "SNYDER MUST GO" on national TV reaching millions. Imagine how that would look??

Posted by: Ireland2 | October 22, 2009 9:59 AM | Report abuse

if you think about it, the only way change was going to happen with this franchise was Gibbs round III. He's the only one who can tell DS to back off, go market something, somewhere else. He's the only one with the cache to pull this off. This was the only way that 'real change' was going to happen...everything else would have been lather rinse repeat of Snyder meddling....this is something to hope happens...

Posted by: BeantownGreg1 | October 22, 2009 10:00 AM | Report abuse

Hi guys.

I heard Chucky Gruden on Mikex2 this morning on my drive in to work and they gave him numerous opportunities to talk about Redskins dysfunction and it's explicit link to the Danny. He evaded them all.

I think you know who wants the job, now you're just haggling about the price!

Posted by: Redcoat | October 22, 2009 9:54 AM

Interesting. Along with the PFT rumor, if can link Gibbs to Gruden it a done deal. If this pans out, then we can start to paint the picture of the possible structure for the skins going forward. I suppose Gibbs would be the go between the GM, HC and Snyder.

Posted by: TWISI | October 22, 2009 10:00 AM | Report abuse

When I posted my long screed about the 'best possible' sequence of events, I hadn't thought of Gibbs in the role of franchise rebuilder, but that makes perfect sense, and I think he's the one and only person to whom Snyder might defer...

I was thinking Parcells or Ron Wolf, but Gibbs should be on that list, and maybe Ernie Accorsi, whom someone mentioned last night up here and who also was off my radar. Any of those solid older dudes who've been around real franchises, winning cultures, and built one or more teams...

If Snyder gets one of those guys in and agrees to give him full control of the franchise, starting with hiring a GM who will then lead the search for a new head coach, and Snyder recedes into the background where an NFL owner belongs, and Vinny Cerrato is forever banished from the premises, I'll be shocked, but I'll feel that there is finally hope for our beloved Redskins.

Posted by: NateinthePDX | October 22, 2009 10:02 AM | Report abuse

Oh I know…..just trying to be a little facetious when I say “no 1st rounders will play for Snyder”. But it actually wouldn’t surprise me if one of the top QBs were to pull that if the Skins pick ‘em.

On the Gibbs thing…wouldn’t mind him helping to pick a new GM, but you have to then let the new GM pick a new coach, so it’s “his guy”….otherwise it’s still Snyder using Gibbs as his yes man. And IMO, Gibbs was a great coach, but didn’t necessarily thrive in his presidential duties, or whatever they called it.

Posted by: dlhaze1 | October 22, 2009 10:02 AM | Report abuse

ugh, if Gibbs comes back to hire a GM and coach I'm ok with that, if Gibbs comes back as the GM I'm not, Mark Brunel, Arch Deluxe, Lloyd, Duckett, Campbell, and the list goes on.......

Posted by: zjfr2 | October 22, 2009 10:02 AM | Report abuse

I heard Chucky Gruden on Mikex2 this morning on my drive in to work and they gave him numerous opportunities to talk about Redskins dysfunction and it's explicit link to the Danny. He evaded them all.

I think you know who wants the job, now you're just haggling about the price!

Posted by: Redcoat

You don't have to kiss up to Synder to get the job..you have to kiss up to keep it...
Marty ripped Synder repeatedly on ESPN..he did it so much that when he was hired i couldn't believe it..I was saying each time I heard Marty talk that he'll never be the HC of the Skins..that's how bad he dogged Synder...maybe someone can find it on you tube it would be interesting to view Marty ripping Synder...

Posted by: jcnjcnj | October 22, 2009 10:02 AM | Report abuse

The Chucky to the Redskins rumor was also in Peter King's Monday Morning QB. Peter King warned Chucky to think twice.

Posted by: League-Source | October 22, 2009 10:03 AM | Report abuse

If JC was worried about the protection, then use your legs and RUN!!!!! If he would of sustain some of those drives by using his legs instead of his arms, the Redskins would have easily won the game with just field goals alone! That is where the excuses and the ineptitude of JC keeps frustrating me! Just do it instead of "woulda, shoulda, of coulda" excuses all the time!

Posted by: JohnWWW | October 22, 2009 10:03 AM | Report abuse

I have a feeling that Snyder has had his eye's opened to the REALITY of this franchise...Tony K, and Rich Gannon, basically shoving his face in the shti that this team is, I think Snyder isn't going to ignore it.....

Posted by: BeantownGreg1 | October 22, 2009 9:54 AM

It's the empty seats at the stadium as well.

Posted by: TWISI | October 22, 2009 10:03 AM | Report abuse

if john cooke still owned the skins we would still be losers because turner would still be here. gibbs is not a very good talent evaluater but can run an organization very well. he likes to overpay used up players like brunell.

Posted by: rls1041 | October 22, 2009 10:04 AM | Report abuse

Gibbs in a tuna roll? I'd have to have lots of wasabi. He'd probably be a little tough... kinda old...

Posted by: VaBeachBlitz | October 22, 2009 10:04 AM | Report abuse

Interesting. Along with the PFT rumor, if can link Gibbs to Gruden it a done deal. If this pans out, then we can start to paint the picture of the possible structure for the skins going forward. I suppose Gibbs would be the go between the GM, HC and Snyder.

Posted by: TWISI | October 22, 2009 10:00 AM |

I believe thats how it works in Miami, the GM reports to Parcells and Parcells reports to the owner. The owner signs checks which is all he should do.

Posted by: Flounder21 | October 22, 2009 10:05 AM | Report abuse

When I posted my long screed about the 'best possible' sequence of events, I hadn't thought of Gibbs in the role of franchise rebuilder, but that makes perfect sense, and I think he's the one and only person to whom Snyder might defer...

Posted by: NateinthePDX | October 22, 2009 10:02 AM

I bet he'd defer to RedDMV.

Posted by: League-Source | October 22, 2009 10:05 AM | Report abuse

beep beep

Posted by: League-Source | October 22, 2009 10:06 AM | Report abuse

Nate, I may be in the minority here, but I'd put Jimmy Johnson on that list of potential candidates as well. I know he's a former cowboy, but he's also proven to be successful at building a team.

Feel free to throw fruit at me, but I'd prefer if it weren't canned.

Posted by: Original_etrod | October 22, 2009 10:07 AM | Report abuse

You don't have to kiss up to Synder to get the job..you have to kiss up to keep it...

Posted by: jcnjcnj | October 22, 2009 10:02 AM | Report abuse

I guess what I took from the interview was Chucky saying "call me" to Snyder. He did say Zorn should be fired rather than treated this way but then segued straight into the "Dan is prepared to spend money" meme and seemed to have no opinion on management at all.

I got teh distinct impression he was saying he would take the job with the CURRENT management structure. Ugh.

Posted by: Redcoat | October 22, 2009 10:08 AM | Report abuse

"...can't stand that bloated payroll of a club..."

It ain't what you pay them, it's how they fit together when they play for pay.

Ask the '03 Marlins about being a low rent champion.

Ask the 2000 Washington Redskins about being a high rent failure.

Whomever takes charge of the redskins' franchise re-building must not see it as some kind of 'fantasy league' team but rather a collection of pieces that fit and play well together.

I'd like to see the team hire away a young personnel guy from the pats, saints, jints, broncos--anybody who has a sense of what it takes to re-start this team.

Any redskin fan who doubts the tream can't quickly recover should study how the Atlanta Falcons went from the futility of Vick to the success of Matty Ice.

But for that to happen, the most significant firing must take place between a wealthy racquetball player and his failing partner Vinny Cerrato.

Silencing Zorn is one thing.

But firing Cerrato is the only thing that matters.

Posted by: MistaMoe | October 22, 2009 10:09 AM | Report abuse

Empty seats are the only thing that matter right now -- please make sure your seat is empty!

Posted by: Pepper5 | October 22, 2009 10:09 AM | Report abuse

If Snyder is smart, he would look at the Yankee franchise history under Steinbrenner. The years he meddled, the Yankees were over-paid and perennial losers, while the years he let his GM and Coaches alone were when the Yankees became more stable and powerful. Snyder can continue to overpay, but just under the right guidance. Like what NateinthePDX mentioned, let Gibbs run the whole thing for several years and get the fan base back, and then Snyder can come in later once everything is all in place and running like a real football team. One can only hope!

Posted by: JohnWWW | October 22, 2009 10:10 AM | Report abuse

Does Campbell ever run out of EXCUSES???

Posted by: sovine08 | October 22, 2009 10:12 AM | Report abuse

No Chucky Please...

Posted by: jcnjcnj | October 22, 2009 10:13 AM | Report abuse

this dude won't have a job next year. he needs to start acting more humble to have any chance on landing a 3rd string job. what a cluster f this dude is.

as far as this teams goes anything less than vinny's head on a platter will be pointless.

Posted by: dealer1 | October 22, 2009 10:17 AM | Report abuse

beep beep

Posted by: dealer1 | October 22, 2009 10:18 AM | Report abuse

If Snyder is smart, he would look at the Yankee franchise history under Steinbrenner. The years he meddled, the Yankees were over-paid and perennial losers, while the years he let his GM and Coaches alone were when the Yankees became more stable and powerful.

The Boss never let anyone alone..He's retired and still has something to say..It just that they're winning..if they don't win they Worls Series..you see..

Posted by: jcnjcnj | October 22, 2009 10:18 AM | Report abuse

Campbell was worried about the KC pass rush??? Does KC have a pas rush?? Philly does and JC just announced to them he's afriaid to get hit.. Well that's like waving a red cape in front of a bull.. Philly will be blitzing JC coming off the bus...

Posted by: sovine08 | October 22, 2009 10:19 AM | Report abuse

As many have said, it will be hard to get a reputable coach to come coach us. That is because Football coaches want to coach, not go join the circus!

Posted by: klangley69 | October 22, 2009 10:21 AM | Report abuse

Gibbs' return would only work if Cerrato goes away -- and Dan stays away from the sidelines and practice fields. If Vinny stays -- and Dan cannot stay away -- then we can only expect more of the same and worse.

Remember that Gibbs had a pretty good succession plan in place when he stepped aside last time, but Dan and Vinny puked all over it.

A more likely and nightmarish outcome with same players could see Gibbs acting as another set of eyes for the other set of eyes (Sherm Lewis) brought in to help patch over the coaching deficit -- while enabling Dan and Vinny to continue to ignore the obvious deficiencies in their front office and overall approach to team ownership.

It might also be helpful if Dan would flush his toilet on occasion... CP seems to have mistaken it for the team jacuzzi.

Posted by: Vic1 | October 22, 2009 10:32 AM | Report abuse

Anyone who knows anything about football can easily see that it's not the QB. I'm glad they put TC in the game to reveal that. I wish TC was starting this week so that all the haters who were calling for JC's head can be put in their place. LOL!! Sonny had the nerve to say that "This team would've been 4-0 if TC was the starter"...LMAO!!

Posted by: chicoexcell | October 22, 2009 11:12 AM | Report abuse

JC plays like a scared QB. He rushes his throws, misses open receivers because he doesnt improvise well and basically looks like its still his first season back there. He looks very uncomfortable and timid. He could use some of the toughness Ramsey used to have when our line really sucked, but we somehow managed to score alot more then didnt we? JC is the best QB on this tean right now but we have no future with this guy. That being said we need to focus on the O Line before we worry about who the QB is gonna be. I'd feel better with an explosive RB behind a good O Line with an AVG QB than I would with a great QB and sorry O LINE and CP and his BS. Blow up the so called leaders of this team and change the dynamics now. Build with quality guys on the OLINE with a good work ethic...something CP lacks and JC isnt a leader anyway.

Posted by: scottmando | October 22, 2009 11:14 AM | Report abuse

As much as this whole mess falls on Vinny Cerrato and Danny Snyder, I just cannot exclude Jim Zorn as equal responsible part of this debaucle.

Yes, I know it all starts at the Top, but IMO once you blow the whistle for gametime, the Owner, The GM, and the HC have an equal share.

To me the whole domain of preparing the Team to play football is the domain of the Coach. The Offseason workouts, training Camp, Preseason, are HC AOR's that determine the Football shape of the Team.

The personnel packages, position choices, starters vs sub's are all HCing AOR's.

Playing hurt, not practicing, ecetera all all HCing AOR's.

If the Owner and GM have input in these areas and/or meddles in these AOR's, then disagreements should be resolved fairly by the three of them.

Any HC that does not demand this for his Team is already headed for disaster.

Jim Zorn has not done a good job at the AOR's that he has chosen to put his stamp on, the Offensive side of the ball.

If it were true that VC and DS were a cancer and nothing good can come as long as they are in control, then it does not follow that our Defense keeps the Offense in every game we have played. Even with the bad individual play of some on the Defensive Team, our Defensive Team is actually playing Winning Football.

I know that sounds oxy-moronic, because we are not winning, but you can make a clear case that we are not winning because of just piss poor inept offensive play.

For sure VC should be replaced as GM, but for sure JZ should be replace as HC. The Owner ain't going nowhere.

As the HC of the Team Jim Zorn as failed miserably and I can see clearly where his failure is due in large part to his own ineptitude.

Zorn is not working as the HC and I would not have given Greg Blache a choice to not accept the HC position when it was offered to him.

If Synder offered the job to Blauche and Blauche turned him down, then it was Synder's error for allowing him to do so.

Zorn took over a playoff Team least we forget and we have been spiraling down...6-2, 2-6, 2-4, get the picture.

Danny Synder has performed badly as owner, but Jim Zorn is not a Head Coach.

LarryInClintonMD.

Posted by: LarryInClintonMD | October 22, 2009 11:32 AM | Report abuse

Campbell sees that his window of opportunity in the league is closing. I think that he is crumbling under that pressure more than anything else. I've always supported Campbell but I don't like his excuse making.

Posted by: coparker5 | October 22, 2009 11:43 AM | Report abuse

scottmando says....JC plays like a scared QB. He rushes his throws, misses open receivers because he doesnt improvise well and basically looks like its still his first season back there. He looks very uncomfortable and timid.

You would look scared and timid too if once you got the snap you only had 2 seconds to get in your drop, plant, find a receiver, and throw!! What Jason is saying is the truth With the way the O Line is looking, who can blame him. Don't blame JC for Snyder and Cerrato's failures to put together a decent line. The run game and the passing game is hurting because of the O-Line.

Posted by: chicoexcell | October 22, 2009 11:49 AM | Report abuse

I blame Snyder/Ceratto for being horrible talent evaluators.

I blame Campbell for not being able to throw the deep ball accurately and fumbling as many times.

I do not blame Campbell for having a sucky O-line.

The reality is even when he has time to throw he still can't accurately throw a deep pass. Campbell is just not a starter in the NFL.

- Ray

Posted by: rmcazz | October 22, 2009 12:18 PM | Report abuse

Who cannot hit the open receivers? Campbell. Who cannot score more than 17 points in a game this season? The players. Who cannot develop a game plan to maximize the teams strengths? The coaches. Who drafted players who cannot see the field or make plays when they are on the field? Cerrato. Who decided against drafting linemen in recent drafts? Cerrato. Who was responsible for making Cerrato the VP? Snyder. This is systemic and the whole freaking lot of them need to go.

Posted by: authorofpoetry | October 22, 2009 12:28 PM | Report abuse

An invasion of sweatpants and white sneaker clad, hair jell slathered drunken oark offensiveness that surpasses typical Skins fan belligerence is about to descend on Fedex field. I generalize, of course, but I also speak from first hand experience.

Dan Snyder, in his inability transcend his ego and delegate to a proper GM, has bent the Redskins over a sofa for these cretins from NJ and Philly.

Vinny works for Saruman (Jerry Jones)

Wormtongue (Vinny) to Theodan (Snyder) - A wise decision to have Sherman Smith translate the plays through his headset to Jason Campbell who stands behind the worst OL in the league after receiving them from Sherman Lewis who has been here two weeks my liege.

How sweet would it be to upset the Eagles though, how typically Redskins to lose to the Chiefs and beat Philly the next week. Alas! We have turned the page on those days - those unpredictable 8-8 pre-collapse Redskins when Chris Samuels and Randy Thomas were still good for a few games.

Posted by: BrooklynSkins | October 22, 2009 2:04 PM | Report abuse

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Posted by: BrooklynSkins | October 22, 2009 2:06 PM | Report abuse

"I had pre-thought some things ... in my head ... and it distracted me," said Campbell.

What an idiot. Don't strain yourself Jason! I'm certain somebody has told you this before -- don't think, read and react!

Posted by: tkoho | October 22, 2009 6:44 PM | Report abuse

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