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Blache: 'It's Always Good to See' Springs

Redskins defensive coordinator Greg Blache shares a strong bond with Shawn Springs, who was the Redskins' top cornerback for five seasons and joined the New England Patriots as a free agent in March.

With the Redskins playing host to the Patriots tonight at FedEx Field, Blache said he's looking forward to catching up with Springs, known as "Blue" to his closest friends, before the game.

"It's always good to see him. He's one of my all-time favorite people," Blache said during his weekly interview session with reporters at Redskins Park. "And I mean that. Guys often say that, but Blue is one of the guys that I'm very, very proud to have been associated with.

"It'll be good to see him. He's got a good heart. He's a good football player. He's a good man. It'll be good. I'm going to go over and give him a big hug and make sure everything is good."

Blache and secondary coach Jerry Gray give Springs a lot of credit for the success of the defensive backfield during their time with the team. Some fans, and people in the organization, were down on Springs last season because of the calf and shin injuries that often kept him out of the lineup. Springs, however, drew the toughest assignment each week when he was physically sound.

No matter what anyone thinks of Springs, the cat requested to cover the best receivers the Redskins faced and won a lot of those battles. That counts a lot with me.

By Jason Reid  |  August 28, 2009; 11:00 AM ET
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Comments

Orakpwnt is about to eviscerate Tom Brady...

Posted by: jmicrodoc | August 28, 2009 11:07 AM | Report abuse

"And I agree that Yoder might be released. Sorry Yoder."

Dude. I caught just as many TD passes as Cooooley last year.

P.S. I don't want to have to come up with a new name....

Posted by: Yoder-lay-hee-who | August 28, 2009 11:04 AM

Posted by: Yoder-lay-hee-who | August 28, 2009 11:09 AM | Report abuse

Let's get a well-played game tonite.

The pats are a good measuring stick.

If we're good, we'll stick it to them.

If we're bad, they'll stick it up our, well, you know.....

Posted by: MistaMoe | August 28, 2009 11:09 AM | Report abuse

1st! Sean has always been a beast wasn't quite what he was in his early years when we got him but still a top db when he was on the field. We've been complaining about a lot of things since snyder bought the team and Sean was just a victim of fan bitterness. I would rather have him as our nickle or starter when Los gets hurt (which he will)

Posted by: murphyz | August 28, 2009 11:12 AM | Report abuse

Were the Panthers a good "measuring stick" last year, Moe?

Posted by: Yoder-lay-hee-who | August 28, 2009 11:13 AM | Report abuse

You all may remember how much I love Shawn Springs - and that I was devastated that he was cut :(

Malcolm Kelly said yesterday that Shawn mentored him last year and that he is really looking forward to seeing "Blue."

I don't think Shawn will be playing, though.

Posted by: Lisa_R | August 28, 2009 11:14 AM | Report abuse

And can we officially drop the 'new offense' card? Anyone notice that Cutler is picking up his new offense pretty well after a few months? He also has worse WRs and just as questionable an O-line. If we had Cutler right now Vegas would be putting us at 11-5 at worst.

Posted by: Sheriff_Gonna_Getcha | August 28, 2009 9:58 AM

The word of the day: pre-season. Let's see what Cutler does in September before his supporters (or Campbell's detractors) start crowing "Mission Accomplished".

Posted by: Alan4 | August 28, 2009 11:16 AM | Report abuse

P.S. I don't want to have to come up with a new name....

Posted by: Yoder-lay-hee-who | August 28, 2009 11:04 AM | Report abuse
How about "Sleepy leader ho"

Posted by: frediefritz | August 28, 2009 11:20 AM | Report abuse

The Bengals 1s put a good deal of pressure on Brady last week. I am thinking it may not be pretty for Bridget's baby's daddy.

Posted by: learnedhand1 | August 28, 2009 11:20 AM | Report abuse

Well, injuries should be kept to a minimum because of %100 chance of mud, but I doubt we'll get a good barometer of the offense.. This'll moer'n likely be Riggo weather, not a Moss track..

Posted by: frak | August 28, 2009 11:20 AM | Report abuse

I would rather have him as our nickle or starter when Los gets hurt (which he will)

Posted by: murphyz | August 28, 2009 11:12 AM | Report abuse
Not for $6-8 mill.

Posted by: frediefritz | August 28, 2009 11:22 AM | Report abuse

How about "Sleepy leader ho"

Posted by: frediefritz

Consider it done, IF Yodes gets the boot.


Posted by: Yoder-lay-hee-who | August 28, 2009 11:24 AM | Report abuse

yoder

"Were the Panthers a good "measuring stick" last year,..."


This year is not last year.

The most important issue facing the franchise is if the 1st round draft pick quarterback in the 2nd year of the same system is a bust.

Plain and simple.

And every game from here on out that Jason Campbell plays in stands as evidence for extending his contract or 'going in a new direction'.

Campbell should see the game as another opportunity to prove his critics wrong, because for right now, they're beating him across the back with a stick that says he's not measuring up.

Posted by: MistaMoe | August 28, 2009 11:24 AM | Report abuse

Springs was one of the best corners in the NFL when healthy, the problem is he was never healthy.

That has nothing to do with "who" he is as a person.

- Ray

Posted by: rmcazz | August 28, 2009 11:26 AM | Report abuse

JC is not anyones franchise QB. The guy does not have the "instincts" to put a team on his back and carry or will them to a win. His career is going to be along the lines of Todd Collins. I am a JC optimist and hope his 2 shots down field against the steelers ate something he plans on doing more of. I can't watch another season of him hitting cooley short or a back in the flats.

Posted by: murphyz | August 28, 2009 11:27 AM | Report abuse

moe, nicely put, its up to him whether he stays or goes....I've said before 3600 yards, and about 25 td, gets him extended in my mind. Nothing crazy, I mean, thats only roughly 400 more yards, but he needs to really jump his TD passes up there...

Posted by: BeantownGreg1 | August 28, 2009 11:28 AM | Report abuse

"Campbell should see the game as another opportunity to prove his critics wrong..."

That "game" will be on the 13th. Preseason is for young guys to show they're worthy of a roster spot.

It's not Campbell's fault that fans go willy nilly over meaningless practices that are in a "game" format.

I choose to go willy nilly over games that actually count...but hey, that's just me.

Posted by: Yoder-lay-hee-who | August 28, 2009 11:29 AM | Report abuse

I hate to ruffle feathers, but there may be a Skins trade in the works:

I’m not trying to start any controversy, but I’ve just heard that the Skins have talked to the Bucs. The trade would send Jason Campbell and Devin Thomas to Tampa in exchange for Jeremy Trueblood, Geno Hayes, and possibly a 2nd round pick in next year’s draft. It is strictly a rumor. But my friend knows a credible sportswriter, who did verify this.

Posted by: cj658 | August 28, 2009 11:30 AM | Report abuse

Re: the conniving 'b'

LOL, bean.

I'll just say she opened up my eyes about the mysterious creatures we know as 'women'.

From her I learned to act, act like you don't give two s***s about them, what they do, and what they say. In other words act like an pompous a-hole to women.

From my experience since her I find that women literally cream over dudes like that.

Women say they want a "loving man" a "caring man" LMBAO -- B***s**t! They want you to act like they don't exist and half-ass dog 'em out.

I must say, she was one of the few women to school a dude like that!

Posted by: RedDMV | August 28, 2009 11:31 AM | Report abuse

JReid,

It doesn't matter if Springs is a cross between Champ Bailey and Darrell Green. What did you want them to do? Hes always hurt, I'd take Hall over Springs even if he stays healthy anyway.

Posted by: drewkinnear | August 28, 2009 11:32 AM | Report abuse

P.S. I like the phrase "willy nilly"

AND

Brandon Marshall just got suspended by the Broncos according to ESPN 980

Posted by: Yoder-lay-hee-who | August 28, 2009 11:33 AM | Report abuse

ESPNRadio980BREAKING NEWS: The Denver Broncos have suspended Pro Bowl receiver Brandon Marshall for unspecified ``detrimental'' conduct.

Posted by: Yoder-lay-hee-who | August 28, 2009 11:33 AM | Report abuse

red, yeah, some women are like that, and I've found that the one's who are, aren't worth the time you spend/spent with them.

"Mike Florio of PFT is reporting that cj658 is so full of crap, that his eye's are brown".....

Posted by: BeantownGreg1 | August 28, 2009 11:38 AM | Report abuse

RedDMV:

I roll with that. Yesterday's dead and gone. Let's kick azz tonight and take names. Time for HAYNESWORTH to begin earning the nickname "Moneysworth." Let's see that o-line making holes for CP and protecting JC. Lets see DEVIN THOMAS show why he's worth THE pick. Time for some money-ball. it's gameday.

Posted by: glawrence007 | August 28, 2009 11:38 AM | Report abuse

I don't know why, but I'm finding humor in cj658's trade rumor.

Posted by: RedDMV | August 28, 2009 11:40 AM | Report abuse

Women say they want a "loving man" a "caring man" LMBAO -- B***s**t! They want you to act like they don't exist and half-ass dog 'em out.

Posted by: RedDMV | August 28, 2009 11:31 AM

*** Stepping up on old man soapbox ***

That's what "girls" want, Red...they want "boys".

"Women" want "men". Huge difference. When you meet a "woman", you'll know what I'm talking about.

*** Off the old man soapbox ***

Posted by: 4-12 | August 28, 2009 11:42 AM | Report abuse

Marshall certainly creates drama, but how has the short Josh McDaniels rein as HC of Broncos not been an epic fail????? And its only going to get worse once they actually start playing.

So glad we didnt hire that fool. They can't all be Mike Tomlin, some cats are to young to be HC.

Posted by: chrislarry | August 28, 2009 11:42 AM | Report abuse

Playing JC is all part of Big Dan's master plan to get a fair shot at Tim Tebow in next year's draft. Last draft, when he couldn't trade for Cuttler or move up for Sanchez, it dawned on Big Dan that the Skins record was "too good" to draft that low. So now he figures to pay and play JC for another season -- and drop about 12 or 13 games -- and then move up to pick 2nd or 3rd in the next draft. See, it will all work out in the end. All it takes is a little patience...

Posted by: Vic1 | August 28, 2009 11:42 AM | Report abuse

Haynesworth = Moneysworth?

I likes..

Posted by: RedDMV | August 28, 2009 11:43 AM | Report abuse

Honestly, it makes sense for both teams. The Bucs just spent a first rounder on a QB, and therefore find it prudent to use another second rounder on a guy who'll be a free agent in a year's time. The Skins inked $200 million in free agents this offseason, so it follows that Snyder would like to enter the season without a QB. Win, win for both sides.

Posted by: psps23 | August 28, 2009 11:44 AM | Report abuse

SOAP:

Well, you gotta' meet one first, "woman" that is. Instead you mostly run into the types RED was describing.

Posted by: glawrence007 | August 28, 2009 11:44 AM | Report abuse

I want orakpo to blow up those cheaters if albert can somehow run out of bounce and roll over that hoodie wearing f*g's leg that would be awesome, karma comes back a**hole.

Posted by: drewkinnear | August 28, 2009 11:44 AM | Report abuse

I really root for leftwhich ever since college, but he looked mad shaky last night for Bucs...one great pass...the next one would have been over Manute Bol's head.

Posted by: chrislarry | August 28, 2009 11:45 AM | Report abuse

i went to miami of ohio and it was fun to see big ben and him battle

Posted by: drewkinnear | August 28, 2009 11:47 AM | Report abuse

I have a question.

I can see why they called him "Blue" Springs.

But why didn't they call him "Silver"?

Posted by: Samson151 | August 28, 2009 11:47 AM | Report abuse

Bond...glawrence Bond- No doubt. Takes a while to meet one. That's why I didn't get married until I was almost 34.

Posted by: 4-12 | August 28, 2009 11:47 AM | Report abuse

cl, thats a good point, but if he's able to finagle a high draft pick in trading Marshall, then I think he's putting his own stamp on that team. I mean, 2 firsts for Cutler was a great move, if he gets a first for Marshall as well, then he'll have potentially had 5 first round picks in the first 2 years of running the team....thats a good way to start getting the players you want...

Posted by: BeantownGreg1 | August 28, 2009 11:48 AM | Report abuse

yoder

"I choose to go willy nilly over games that actually count...but hey, that's just me."


The third preseason game is typically used as a 'regular' season game by most teams as the coaches game plan, let the starters play into the third quarter, and hope for an extended look at their number 1s against another teams' number 1s.

So let's discount, as you say, the 1st and 2nd preseason games from this preseason.

In fact, let's also erase the end of last season from our minds.

Let's watch tonite and hope for a well-played, productive night from the redskins' offense.

If the team can move the ball against what looks like a good Pats' defense, we're cooking.

In not, Zorn and the Gang ain't cooking, just blowing a lot of gas.

Posted by: MistaMoe | August 28, 2009 11:50 AM | Report abuse

"I really root for leftwhich ever since college, but he looked mad shaky last night for Bucs...one great pass...the next one would have been over Manute Bol's head.
Posted by: chrislarry"

I like him too, but he's 'mad' inconsistent. Has that looping windup that gives the rush an extra half-second to get in his face. His proudest moment may have been last year in the second half against the Skins -- a game that folks forget Washington could have won if Byron hadn't gotten 'mad' hot...

Posted by: Samson151 | August 28, 2009 11:50 AM | Report abuse

Beam time will tell certainly....but he seems like a total azz. also if acts like a petulant dueche, goes 3-13 and loses the team he might not be around to reap the rewards of the drafts picks.

Posted by: chrislarry | August 28, 2009 11:51 AM | Report abuse

Brandon Marshall is a super receiver, and I don't know how his absence (if he's not with Denver) will affect Eddie Royal. Eddie may not be the sort of WR to deal with double coverage. Nevertheless, I'd be surprised if the Broncs can get any more than a second-rounder for Marshall -- he's salted the earth a bit with his recent conduct.

Posted by: Samson151 | August 28, 2009 11:53 AM | Report abuse

Samson I guess you dont like my use of the word Mad...when you work with urban kids ages 8-17 constantly....you pick up things.

Posted by: chrislarry | August 28, 2009 11:53 AM | Report abuse

Marshall traded to the Cowgirls!! sike..

Posted by: frak | August 28, 2009 11:54 AM | Report abuse

cl, the acting like an azz is how his teacher taught him to conduct himself...and picking Moreno at #12, did nothing for him either....

Posted by: BeantownGreg1 | August 28, 2009 11:54 AM | Report abuse

i think the MNF against the steelers and leftwich really magnified the lack of pass rush, if they couldnt get to a plodder like leftwich....

Posted by: drewkinnear | August 28, 2009 11:54 AM | Report abuse

hate to ruffle feathers, but there may be a Skins trade in the works:

I’m not trying to start any controversy, but I’ve just heard that the Skins have talked to the Bucs. The trade would send Jason Campbell and Devin Thomas to Tampa in exchange for Jeremy Trueblood, Geno Hayes, and possibly a 2nd round pick in next year’s draft. It is strictly a rumor. But my friend knows a credible sportswriter, who did verify this.


Posted by: cj658 | August 28, 2009 11:30 AM | Report abuse


Bucs are trying to trade away QBs.

This would leave Skins with a QB roster consisting of Todd Collins, Chase Daniel and Colt Brennan.

Sorry, but this smells like a diaper that needs to be changed...

Posted by: p1funk | August 28, 2009 11:55 AM | Report abuse

regardless of what Mcdaniels gets in return, he has taken a good offense in Denver and dismantled it. The team had one of the better offensive units in the league and a terrible defense and now its going to have a terrible defense again with a terrible offense... He alienates his players, especially his star players and acts like he is God's gift to coaching, much like the other Bill Belichick disciples, Eric Mangenius, Romeo Crennel and Charlie Weis.

If we look at their current track records we can clearly see that NONE of them have been remotely successful in the nfl or college.. and so I am going to jump on the wagon and say that Mcdaniels will fail too...

Posted by: peoplearestupid1 | August 28, 2009 11:56 AM | Report abuse

Shawn "The Well Runneth Dry" Springs" was a great player, without question.

I'm happy for Shawn that he's landed with the Patriots, the team most adept at pumping the last drops of productivity from veteran (a.k.a old) players.

Posted by: Chia_Pet | August 28, 2009 11:56 AM | Report abuse

Hey, peeps:

What time is the game on tonight?

It will be nationally broadcast, correct? (and no I don't mean the NFL network.)

Good, old fashioned cable TV will suffice?

Posted by: Chia_Pet | August 28, 2009 11:59 AM | Report abuse

"The third preseason game is typically used as a 'regular' season game by most teams as the coaches game plan, let the starters play into the third quarter, and hope for an extended look at their number 1s against another teams' number 1s."

I'm aware of this Moe...that's why I brought up the Panthers game from last preseason.

They got demolished. They started 6-2 in the regular season.

Would I like for the 1's to look good in preseason? Of course. But I'm not making proclamations, either way, after a preseason practice.

Posted by: Yoder-lay-hee-who | August 28, 2009 12:00 PM | Report abuse

I believe its an 8 o'clock start.....

Posted by: BeantownGreg1 | August 28, 2009 12:00 PM | Report abuse

Tim Tebow has Heath Shuler painted all over him..

Posted by: frak | August 28, 2009 12:01 PM | Report abuse

tebow has 4th round, and fullback written all over him as well...

Posted by: BeantownGreg1 | August 28, 2009 12:03 PM | Report abuse

Heath Shuler?

Anyone know what his rookie card is worth these days?

Posted by: Chia_Pet | August 28, 2009 12:03 PM | Report abuse

"Good, old fashioned cable TV will suffice?"

CBS...ughhh.

Posted by: Yoder-lay-hee-who | August 28, 2009 12:04 PM | Report abuse

Always listen to those who played "the game" before I, however, where ever you played it. Good stuff 4-12 and bean, good stuff.

But it's cool globe-trottin' for now though. Besides, gives me a chance to work on and focus on things and who are really important.

Me.


I like the dude Morris from Tampa as well, cL. He's a Tomlin clone.

Dungy coaching tree:

Lovie Smith
Herman Edwards
Mike Tomlin
Rod Marinelli
Jim Caldwell


I dig how mostly all the coaches are connected. I see why they call it a fraternity.

Posted by: RedDMV | August 28, 2009 12:04 PM | Report abuse

We get it jreid, you like springs. But he was always hurt. for all the talk about us needing to get younger, we don't let the old guys go easy. Enough.
He's quickly becoming the new Leigh Torrence.

Posted by: AdamCr | August 28, 2009 12:08 PM | Report abuse

Fraternities.

For dudes with no imagination and a strong desire to pluck easy tail feather.

Posted by: Chia_Pet | August 28, 2009 12:08 PM | Report abuse

Now, why don't you go back and look at what Cutler did against real defenses and not those scrubs in the AFC West. He was useless when playing anyone not ranked in the bottom 10 on defense. Cutler made his numbers last year beating up crappy secondaries and playing catchup in garbage time. If you think Cutler is good then you are in for a rude awakening. BTW, they have the same completion percentage so to say that Cutler is more accurate is a false statement. Cutler also had better receivers and the best offensive line in football last year.

Posted by: PAskinsfan17 | August 28, 2009 10:33 AM | Report abuse

PA -- Campbell undoubtedly played against better competition last year (8 games against top 10 passing defenses). Compared to Cutler's 3 games against top D passing D. But in those games Campbell had 188yd/gm with 5TD(6INT). In Cutler's 3 games he had 244yd/gm 3TD(1INT). It's not like Cutler crumbled against great defense.
JC & Cutler only faced two of the same teams -- CLE & NOR. Those seem like good games to compare (both opponents offered terrible Pass defense).
JC17 vs CLE: 14-23, 164yd, TD
JC17 vs NOR: 24-36, 321yd, TD
Cutler vs CLE: 24-42, 447yd, 3TD, INT
Cutler vs NOR: 21-34, 264yd, 2TD, INT
JC17 had good stats for sure (and his greatest play of the season in the NOR game) but he's still just managing games against these terrible pass-defenses. We didn't spend 3 2nd Rd picks on pass-catchers to have someone check down and throw the ball out of bounds. The argument is that a team with a great defense and running game (I think we can have both) only needs a QB 'manager' who won't turn over the ball. But that's not true. If your QB doesn't scare anyone (or take any chances) then defenses will stack the box. And your QB may not throw a pick, but you won't pick up a first down either (or score any points).

And I'd say this about your point that they had the same Completion %: Cutler was still more accurate because while he had the same % as JC17, Cutler was throwing down the field. He threw more difficult passes than campbell did. So yes, he is more accurate if he completes the same % of intermediate passes as Campbell does short-yardage passes for example. Just look at their net-yards/attempt score (one of the best stats Football reference provides). Campbell scored an 88. The league average is 100. Cutler scored a 118. This works out to Cutler averaging about 1.6ny/a more than campbell. Or plays where Cutler passes average over 7yd whereas Campbell's avg 5.5yd. This shows he is completing the same percentage of passes but FARTHER down the field.

Anyway, I don't mean to bash campbell. I think he can be a good QB. But I think anyone who believes we're better off with him than Cutler is delusional (except for the PR/community side of it).

Posted by: Sheriff_Gonna_Getcha | August 28, 2009 12:08 PM | Report abuse

"I like the dude Morris from Tampa as well, cL. He's a Tomlin clone."

Agreed Red

Posted by: chrislarry | August 28, 2009 12:08 PM | Report abuse

O
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gonna get ya!

Posted by: Chia_Pet | August 28, 2009 12:13 PM | Report abuse

But my friend knows a credible sportswriter, who did verify this.


Posted by: cj658

The young starting OT would be awesome!! But the bird that told the frog that told the dog told me different..

Posted by: frak | August 28, 2009 12:13 PM | Report abuse

The Eagles are much more concerned with the offensive line than the quarterback. Philadelphia has committed $100 million to an offensive line to protect McNabb. They haven't been on the field all together yet and have had no chance to build chemistry. Left tackle Jason Peters, right guard Stacy Andrews and center Jamaal Jackson played on Thursday, but left guard Todd Heremans and right tackle Shawn Andrews were out. McNabb wasn't sacked on Thursday, although the Jags did get close several times.

Shawn Andrews drew some attention away from Vick today in Philly because of his bizarre YouTube video. The injured former first-round pick rapped an original called "Getting My Michael Phelps On." With Andrews' history of emotional problems, few are convinced he can stay focused for an entire season, even if he does recover fully from back surgery.

Posted by: BeantownGreg1 | August 28, 2009 12:17 PM | Report abuse

Washington hasn’t given us much to go by as far as what to expect tonight, but if the first two games are any indication the 'Skins could be in for a long night against Bill Belichick’s team. Last week, the Redskins didn’t even attempt a field goal, let alone find the end zone, in an embarrassing 23-0 setback in Baltimore. Campbell in particular was horrible going 1-of-7 for 10 yards. There wasn’t much to be happy about either on the other side of the ball as the Skin’s defense was torched for 500 total yards by a mediocre Ravens offense.

- By some dude named Bob Harvey

Posted by: Chia_Pet | August 28, 2009 12:17 PM | Report abuse

"Getting My Michael Phelps On?"

Excuse me?

Posted by: Chia_Pet | August 28, 2009 12:19 PM | Report abuse

About that passer personality profile from pro-football-reference.com -- The Meyers-Briggs-ish dimensions are:
1. Bombers versus Completers [B/C]: compares performance in YPA versus completion percentage. If a passer is better at yards per attempt, he is a Bomber. If a passer is better at completion percentage, he is a Completer (and if he is really bad at yards per attempt while completing an okay amount, he is a Captain Checkdown).
2. Fun versus Safe [F/S]: A passer who is better at throwing TDS than avoiding INTs is “Fun”, while one who is better at avoiding INTs is “Safe".
3. Vulture versus Yard Eater [V/Y]: Vultures are passers who perform better at TD percent than YPA. Yard Eaters perform better at YPA while others scored the touchdowns.
4. Gambler versus Holder [G/H]: combines the completion percentage and interception indexes, and compares them to the sack rate index. A passer who avoids sacks at the expense of throwing a few more incompletions and INTs is a Gambler. A passer who will take the sack rather than risk the INT is a Holder.

Jason Campbell comes out as Completer-Safe-Yard Eater-Holder. That's the game manager type. Here's a partial list from the article:
Greg Landry
David Carr
Bernie Kosar
Neil Lomax
Tony Eason
Ken Anderson
David Garrard
Jim Harbaugh
Chad Pennington
Neil O'Donnell
Mark Brunell
Archie Manning
Jason Campbell
Troy Aikman
Gary Danielson
Jim McMahon

Not such bad company. Now Jim Zorn as a QB was in the Bomber-Safe-YardEater-Gambler group along with Kerry Collins, Jim Hart, Doug Flutie, and Stan Humphries.

Don't forget this is about style, not quality. You get successful and less successful in all categories.

Posted by: Samson151 | August 28, 2009 12:21 PM | Report abuse

It is Friday:
10 TCCL's - The Mayor, for having some good posts this week.
12 TCCL's - Kelly's knee.
50 TCCL's - Soup, for putting up with all this offseason foolishness.
-50 TCCL's - Souphaters.
-92 TCCL's - The trainers, for giving Haynesworth a jersy that was too small.

Posted by: 4skinz | August 28, 2009 12:22 PM | Report abuse

I did watch the 1 hour of the Michael Vick show on NFLnetwork last night. And the Eggles starting O-line did look awful. McNabb played well but he was constantly on the run early on. Winston Justice canNOT play against starters. And Philly got away with at least 4 obvious holds too. If their O-line is that bad during the Regular season then Haynesworth/Orakpo/Carter are going to have a lot of fun. And McNabb won't have time to find DeSean Jackson deep.

Posted by: Sheriff_Gonna_Getcha | August 28, 2009 12:23 PM | Report abuse

Washington hasn’t given us much to go by as far as what to expect tonight, but if the first two games are any indication the 'Skins could be in for a long night against Bill Belichick’s team. Last week, the Redskins didn’t even attempt a field goal, let alone find the end zone, in an embarrassing 23-0 setback in Baltimore. Campbell in particular was horrible going 1-of-7 for 10 yards. There wasn’t much to be happy about either on the other side of the ball as the Skin’s defense was torched for 500 total yards by a mediocre Ravens offense.

- By some dude named Bob Harvey

Posted by: Chia_Pet | August 28, 2009 12:17 PM


Bob Harvey....AKA Jason La Canfora

Posted by: drewkinnear | August 28, 2009 12:25 PM | Report abuse

Leftwich also lit it up in that Jags OT loss in FedEx a few years back...

The 'skins scored 36, I say THIRTY-SIX points that game!


Tebow is a Florida QB, nuff said.

Posted by: RedDMV | August 28, 2009 12:26 PM | Report abuse

I did watch the 1 hour of the Michael Vick show on NFLnetwork last night. And the Eggles starting O-line did look awful. McNabb played well but he was constantly on the run early on. Winston Justice canNOT play against starters. And Philly got away with at least 4 obvious holds too. If their O-line is that bad during the Regular season then Haynesworth/Orakpo/Carter are going to have a lot of fun. And McNabb won't have time to find DeSean Jackson deep.

Posted by: Sheriff_Gonna_Getcha | August 28, 2009 12:23 PM

Interesting observations - I agree, but a lot of folks are saying this is the beagles year. I hope we take it to 'em twice like last year (McNabb was such a crybaby).

Posted by: 4skinz | August 28, 2009 12:26 PM | Report abuse

And can we officially drop the 'new offense' card? Anyone notice that Cutler is picking up his new offense pretty well after a few months? He also has worse WRs and just as questionable an O-line. If we had Cutler right now Vegas would be putting us at 11-5 at worst.

Posted by: Sheriff_Gonna_Getcha | August 28, 2009 9:58 AM

The word of the day: pre-season. Let's see what Cutler does in September before his supporters (or Campbell's detractors) start crowing "Mission Accomplished".

Posted by: Alan4 | August 28, 2009 11:16 AM | Report abuse

Football ability aside, what a whiny little weasel Cutler is. To throw McDaniels under the bus when he was trying to get traded, and then come out and say what a great offensive mind he is and what a great coach he'll be? Please. Maybe Cutler was more of the reason that Vanderbilt lost all of those games while he was quarterbacking than he would like you to think.

Posted by: rbpalmer | August 28, 2009 12:27 PM | Report abuse

"the best team didnt win"-McNabb after they lost to the skins

Posted by: drewkinnear | August 28, 2009 12:28 PM | Report abuse

From the Patriots, expect to see:

A plethora of personnel groupings. Unlike last week, when the Patriots’ first offense worked mostly on its four-receiver attack, this should be a game in which all groupings are utilized. Players figure to be shuffled in and out, which should provide a chance to see the Patriots’ top three running backs - Fred Taylor, Laurence Maroney, and Kevin Faulk - and how they complement each other.

- Boston Globe

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Good test for our defense.

Posted by: Chia_Pet | August 28, 2009 12:29 PM | Report abuse

I've floated this trade many posts ago, but I'll throw it out there again like red meat:

Kid n Play (aka Kelly and Thomas) plus a 3rd rounder to Denver for B Marshall.

Posted by: Kenbeatrizz | August 28, 2009 12:30 PM | Report abuse

Fred Taylor, Lawrence Maroney, Kevin Faulk

Clinton Portis, Ladell Betts, Rock Cartwright

Hmmmmm....

Posted by: Chia_Pet | August 28, 2009 12:31 PM | Report abuse

B. Marsh not worth more than a 2nd rounder. Injuries, arrests, childish antics, giant mouth= TO level cancer.

Posted by: scampbell1975 | August 28, 2009 12:32 PM | Report abuse

Kid n Play (aka Kelly and Thomas) plus a 3rd rounder to Denver for B Marshall.

Posted by: Kenbeatrizz |

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You try raising someone else's problem child.

No thanks!

Posted by: Chia_Pet | August 28, 2009 12:33 PM | Report abuse

MMMKAY is gonna be somebody in this league.

We keep the talent we have.

We build up from there.

Posted by: Chia_Pet | August 28, 2009 12:35 PM | Report abuse

"Getting My Michael Phelps On?"

Depending on who said it, it could mean that you're about to do laps in the pool.

It could also mean that you're about to dominate whomever and whatever.

But it could mean you're about to whip out "Billy Bong Thornton" and chief it up.

If i were to say it... it would be the first one.

Definitely.

Posted by: RedDMV | August 28, 2009 12:35 PM | Report abuse

"Getting My Michael Phelps On?"

Excuse me?

Posted by: Chia_Pet | August 28, 2009 12:19 PM

He tried to buff and polish the inspiration for the song (a swim dance? GOH) but my Spidey senses tell me it's really a weed anthem.

Posted by: learnedhand1 | August 28, 2009 12:35 PM | Report abuse

Is it me or is Jason Reid just reaching for stuff to talk about nowadays? I mean yesterday it was what food was served at the luncheon and now this is about how Coach Blache is always happy to see Sean Springs. S&#ts weak man.. At least roly poly LaCanfora kept it interesting and that's saying a lot about Reid because LaCanfora sucked.

Posted by: redshot84 | August 28, 2009 12:39 PM | Report abuse

Yeah, unfortunately just watched the Shawn Andrew's "rap" video.

The implication, to hear Sean Andrew's explain it, is that Phelps was able to dominate and puff the ganja at the same time, and so should any other pro athlete.

Posted by: Chia_Pet | August 28, 2009 12:44 PM | Report abuse

Brandon Marshall really made an ass out of himself yesterday with that footage of him acting really deuchebaggish during team warm-ups.

What's the point of showing up if you're going to do that. Stay away and take your daily fine like a man. At least no one would have footage of you acting like a turd.

Oh naw, hell naw on Brandon Marshall.

Owens is a prima donna jackass. Agreed. But you've never heard of T.O. getting into any trouble with the law at all. Brandon Marshall has had more than a few battery charges against him.

I have no respect for a man that puts his hands on a woman. It may have happened with someone in their past. If you learn from the mistake, that's one thing. But with him it's a recurring theme.

Posted by: RedDMV | August 28, 2009 12:47 PM | Report abuse

Tebow is a Florida QB, nuff said.

Posted by: RedDMV | August 28, 2009 12:26 PM | Report abuse

That he is, but in his time as a Gator he has provided me with numerous games of greatness a Heisman winner, and 2 National Championships. In the same time the Redskins have provided me with, uh Jason Campbell. I will take the Tebow years and enjoy them well into my old age. These years with Campbell will soon be a distant memory.

I wonder which of the two will provide me with a better year this year? I will put my money on the QB who has "it" according to Tom Brady's College QB coach. And it aint Campbell.

For all you busta's hatin on Tebow, you would all be hating on Brady coming out of college as well. And all of you would look like fools today. If he goes to the right organization that knows how to use him, he will be just fine. If he comes here, where we put round pegs in square holes, he will flounder. I pray that he doesnt come here, this organization would ruin him.

Posted by: gatorskinz2000 | August 28, 2009 12:50 PM | Report abuse

gs, channeling his inner Truth....

Posted by: BeantownGreg1 | August 28, 2009 12:54 PM | Report abuse

If he goes to the right organization that knows how to use him, he will be just fine. If he comes here, where we put round pegs in square holes, he will flounder. I pray that he doesnt come here, this organization would ruin him.

mmm one would think you would say the same thing about JC.

Posted by: jm220 | August 28, 2009 12:55 PM | Report abuse

Posted by: Sheriff_Gonna_Getcha | August 28, 2009 12:08 PM | Report abuse

You definitely didn't take into account that JC got sacked almost 40 times and Cutler only got sacked 11 times. I'll let you have the more accuracy because of longer throws if you give me the less accuracy because of being chased by the best DE's in the league. Jansen was less effective than a revolving door in slowing down the pass rushers. Either way it's a wash. Now, the CLE stats also don't factor in that Clinton Portis was wrecking the Browns so we had no reason to pass. The Broncos couldn't run against Cleveland and had to pass. Now, the top defenses you're counting are counting the Raiders and that first game Deangelo Hall was playing man on Eddie Royal and got toasted. That's the only saving grace Cutler has against top 10 defenses. You can't deny that the top 10 defenses JC played against were a lot closer to the top 5. Pitt, Bal, Philly, and Dallas are 1,2,3,5. That's 7 games against the top 5 and Cutler only had 1 top 5. The only other decent D that Cutler played was Tampa(#4). He threw for 227 and a TD. Campbell threw 3 TDs and a pick against Dallas(#5) in 2 games and averaged 200 yards. That's a good bit better than Cutler played against the #4 defense. Against Philly(#3) Campbell only average about 150 yards and no TDs. That's not too far away from 200 yards and 1 TD. Against Oakland round 2 Cutler threw for 200 yards and a pick. Cutler had an easy schedule last year. He'll be pouting and crying soon. The pass catchers last year were either injured or commiting so many penalties they had to ride the bench. DT still can't run a route. All defenses had to do last year was double Santana and Cooley. They didn't even have to cover ARE because even if the ball was thrown his way he dropped it. The skins gave up more sacks, played tougher teams, dropped more passes, and had less receivers and JC still managed the same completion percentage as Cutler. If you think Cutler is good then you are delusional.

Posted by: PAskinsfan17 | August 28, 2009 12:59 PM | Report abuse

Tebow's a dope college QB like Shuler was,and he will probably win another championship..Just sayin', just don't see him in the NFL mold..

Posted by: frak | August 28, 2009 1:01 PM | Report abuse

mmm one would think you would say the same thing about JC.

Posted by: jm220 | August 28, 2009 12:55 PM | Report abuse

I wouldnt, but you could. I was never high on him on college, and I am an SEC guy. He had Ronnie Brown and Cadillac Williams to take the pressure off him. He never had to do it himself. He generally dealt with one on one coverage in college because of that great running duo.

Posted by: gatorskinz2000 | August 28, 2009 1:01 PM | Report abuse

From ESPN
During Jay Cutler's first week of practice as the Bears' new quarterback, a rookie wide receiver dared to shag a few of his passes with just one hand. And even though this rookie, third-round pick Juaquin Iglesias, had been lectured a few times by coaches about the importance of proper technique, he was slow to break his annoying little habit. So when it happened again one afternoon, Cutler followed his pass upfield, darted toward Iglesias and screamed into his face mask: "If you ever do that again I will never throw another f--ing pass to you. EVER!"

0-3 and cost the team a spot in the playoff. Yeah that really shows he is so much better than JC

Posted by: jm220 | August 28, 2009 1:01 PM | Report abuse

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kYzDB5dXIIk
Shawn Andrews "Gettin My Michael Phelps On"

Think he needs to get his Prozac on & focus or he will be a former NFL lineman soon.

Posted by: will_ga | August 28, 2009 1:03 PM | Report abuse

JC is not anyones franchise QB. The guy does not have the "instincts" to put a team on his back and carry or will them to a win. His career is going to be along the lines of Todd Collins. I am a JC optimist and hope his 2 shots down field against the steelers ate something he plans on doing more of. I can't watch another season of him hitting cooley short or a back in the flats.

Posted by: murphyz | August 28, 2009 11:27 AM

Some may say you don't have the credentials to judge who's franchise QB or not

Posted by: redonmyskin | August 28, 2009 1:03 PM | Report abuse

Tebow's a dope college QB like Shuler was,and he will probably win another championship..Just sayin', just don't see him in the NFL mold..

Posted by: frak | August 28, 2009 1:01 PM | Report abuse

Not even close to being the same type of player though.

However, once he finally gets the business all of the pent up energy might disappear.

Posted by: gatorskinz2000 | August 28, 2009 1:05 PM | Report abuse

I will end my rant and get ready to leave work to go to FedEx. I will be enjoying this game. I hope Campbell does do well this year, as he goes, so go the skins.

HTTR!!

Posted by: gatorskinz2000 | August 28, 2009 1:07 PM | Report abuse

gatorskinz2000 so because you wasn't high on JC in college but high on te " I will be another gator bust QB" bs i mean bow. The round pegs in square holes doesn't apply to JC. Wow! Seems a little weak to me.

Posted by: jm220 | August 28, 2009 1:07 PM | Report abuse

I will end my rant and get ready to leave work to go to FedEx. I will be enjoying this game. I hope Campbell does do well this year, as he goes, so go the skins.

HTTR!!

Posted by: gatorskinz2000 | August 28, 2009 1:07 PM


You won't feel that way once hit it 95 !

Posted by: redonmyskin | August 28, 2009 1:12 PM | Report abuse

"Seems a little weak to me."

Because it is weak. Tebow has more than enough talent around him. Dude is a stud runner and leader. Passer? Don't think so.

Posted by: Yoder-lay-hee-who | August 28, 2009 1:15 PM | Report abuse

gatorskinz, I would reply in detail but looking at your screen name your biased view is squirting out of your Irises.

How come when you have an objective view, you gotta be a hater. No one is hating on your man, Tebow. I am a fan of his speech after the loss to Mississippi last year, liked how he put his hand to ear after scoring the TD taunting the fans and idiots who were prank calling his phone.

I don't hate on Tebow. But I'm not drinking the GATORade either. Tebow is not a prototypical NFL QB. He's Mike Vick minus the speed and arm accuracy.

And dog fighting charges.

You gotta understand there is a VAST difference between college football and the NFL. You really think he's going to run around like that on NFL defenders? With that speed? He ain't the fastest QB in the world.

And don't compare him to Tom Brady. Brady and Tebow were two completely different players in and coming out of college.

Posted by: RedDMV | August 28, 2009 1:17 PM | Report abuse

Re: Trade Rumor
Wasn't Jla down in Tampa for the NFLN this week? Is that your credible source?

Re: Trade for B. Marshall
You'd give three of our'n for 1 of their'n?
No likey

Re: TCCL
Yay! Return of TCCLS!
you forgot one -100,000 TCCLs to he who will not be named.

Posted by: JohnDinHouston | August 28, 2009 1:19 PM | Report abuse

The round pegs in square holes doesn't apply to JC. Wow! Seems a little weak to me.

Posted by: jm220 | August 28, 2009 1:07 PM | Report abuse

If you would have seen a scouting report I posted yesterday from cnnsi, he was rated as a good WCO QB. So based on his scouting report he fits this hole perfectly.

Posted by: gatorskinz2000 | August 28, 2009 1:19 PM | Report abuse

He's Mike Vick minus the speed and arm accuracy.
Posted by: RedDMV | August 28, 2009 1:17 PM | Report abuse


Check the stats on that one.
Tebow career 65.8 Comp% compared to Vick at his best year @58.8

Yes, I am biased I will be the first to admit. Based on the past Percy Harvin will be a bust too. But I dont think that will apply to him.

But I am also biased for the Redskins as well.

Posted by: gatorskinz2000 | August 28, 2009 1:26 PM | Report abuse

JM220,

Here is the article, so based on his scouting report, he is not a round peg in a square hole. He was scouted by people who do this for a living as a good fit for this offense.


Effective at the Senior Bowl in a West Coast timing offense.

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/football/2005/draft/players/65730.html

Posted by: gatorskinz2000 | August 27, 2009 2:55 PM | Report abuse

Posted by: gatorskinz2000 | August 28, 2009 1:27 PM | Report abuse

Don Banks on what marshall did to get suspended:

He walked as the rest of his teammates ran in pre-practice warm-ups. He booted the football skyward instead of handing it back to the team's ball boys. He knocked down passes instead of catching them in receiver drills. It's a wonder the team's management had time to act before Marshall's teammates decided enough was enough and meted out their own form of discipline or at least condemnation.

Posted by: BeantownGreg1 | August 28, 2009 1:28 PM | Report abuse

gator stop before you hurt yourself. The WCO is in it's second season here. You don't get any points for your last post about WCO and JC being a WCO coming out of college. How many systems he been in again since being here? So, base on your logic it was like you try to say about Tebow coming here which proves my point of double standards by you.

Posted by: jm220 | August 28, 2009 1:29 PM | Report abuse

What part of, "Get me the hell outta here, management" don't they understand?? Though, he probably damaged his trading PR by the tantrum..He a hothead..

Posted by: frak | August 28, 2009 1:32 PM | Report abuse

On the Culter vs JC comparison ... not sure it says much about Cutler being better. Cutler played ZERO games vs top 8 defenses, Campbell played 8 games vs top 8 defenses, including 6 against the top 5 defenses.

Sheriff, the difference, stat wise between Campbell and Cutler from your data is:

7-17 226yds 3TDs and 2INTs.

Sounds like mad bomber kind of stats to me. The kind of guy that keeps both teams in the game.

Of note, Campbell did bring us back from down 2 scores vs NO and put us up 11 with a 4th quarter TD vs Cle.

So I'm not sure there is much of a point about Cutler being better from this.

Posted by: zcezcest1 | August 28, 2009 1:32 PM | Report abuse

And don't compare him to Tom Brady. Brady and Tebow were two completely different players in and coming out of college.

Posted by: RedDMV | August 28, 2009 1:17 PM | Report abuse

Tebow now has the same College QB coach as Brady did, he was the one who made the comparison. Saying, they both have the "it" factor. I would say he might have a better inside track on that than we do.

"He has the 'It Factor' that I've experienced with guys I've coached," Loeffler said of Tebow. "There are a lot of guys who can throw the football. There are a lot of guys who are smart on the [white]board. But if you don't have that 'It Factor,' it's hard to accomplish what you want to accomplish at this position. Obviously, you see the 'It Factor' every Sunday up in New England."

http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/preview09/columns/story?columnist=maisel_ivan&id=4391994

Posted by: gatorskinz2000 | August 28, 2009 1:33 PM | Report abuse

beeps

Posted by: frediefritz | August 28, 2009 1:34 PM | Report abuse

"If you would have seen a scouting report I posted yesterday from cnnsi, he was rated as a good WCO QB. So based on his scouting report he fits this hole perfectly.
Posted by: gatorskinz2000"

The WCO runs best when the passer is both mobile and accurate on the short to medium routes. He needs to be able to throw deep, but after he's set the deep route up with sideline passes, slants, and runs. That way when he does throw it downfield, the receiver is behind the defense.

Jason is a little big and a little slow afoot for the WCO, but he's very accurate short and mid-range. That's why I'm always surprised to hear folks here criticize his accuracy. Even the most accurate passer will miss receivers on occasion, usually high or in the dirt. They correct for it.

So yeah, he's a good WCO fit. Not perfect, but good.

Posted by: Samson151 | August 28, 2009 2:37 PM | Report abuse

The Redskins will finish with a 4-12 record.

Jason Campbell, is definitely not an NFL Quarterback.

It's time to say goodbye to Vincent Cerrato.

Too bad, Danny Snyder.

Danny Snyder loves Penn State.

Maryland basketball will finish with a 15-16 record

No NCAA bid

No NIT bid

Maryland Football will finish with a 2-10 record.

Maryland's defensive line and linebacker corps are a joke --- no pass rush whatsoever and give up a ton of long yardage plays.

I have seen harder hitting teams in powder puff leagues.

The only hard hits the Terps make - are out of bound plays - which cost them an additional 15 yards - which are quite frequent.

California's running back - Best - will gain 296 yards in the opening game

I love it, when Maryland constantly gets embarrassed on national TV.

Prediction:

California -- 56
Maryland -- 10

It's hilarious to see Maryland win a game - and the very next week get clobbered by a Virginia Tech - Boston College.

It is great to see Maryland go down to a crushing defeat on the football recruiting front (the kids they have received commitments from - are a joke! - taking the bottom of the barrel)

Carolina Blue - Carolina WHITE - Go Tar Heels - Let's go Tar Heels !

Posted by: hclark1 | August 28, 2009 2:37 PM | Report abuse

Hunter should get a bonus if he can put a hole in Jerry Jone's gigantic screen. Suischem can forget it - he'd miss the thing.

Posted by: coparker5 | August 28, 2009 3:08 PM | Report abuse

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