Betts limited by foot injury but expects to play

Worst!!

REPOST:

Whats with the crazy NFL fines this year?

http://blog.theredzone.org/ViewItem.asp?Entry=4087

Cutler fined $20K for "abuse" of official

Ocho Cinco fined $20K For joke $1 bribe of official

Atlanta head coach laying hands on an opposing player $15K (this would seem to be the biggest infraction, yet the cheapest fine?)

Who do we have that isn't hurt?

Anyone?

be nice if, after the game, McDaniels was wondering why he wanted Orton over Campbell...

Supposed to be 70 and sunny here on Sunday! Good day to be outside not watching this football team, unless of course you've already bought tickets and absolutely HAVE to go. Either way, have a good weekend! Lets go CAPS!

"Zorn, however, is prepared to have a running game "by committee unless Ladell feels great."

sigh.....nothing....n/m....just hurts...

Maybe getting an offensive line is as easy as selling Snyder on the greater marketing potential of "HOGS 2.0" versus the marketing potential of a McCoy, Bradford or Tebow. I could envision all kinds of charts and diagrams showing the correlation between winning and marketing revenue. Maybe when they fire Vinny they should get someone with better PowerPoint skills so they can sell their plans to the big boss.

Posted by: RedSkinHead | November 13, 2009 2:12 PM | Report abuse

Did anyone else see the nasty theoretical redesign of the Redskins helmet?

Why do I feel like it is a Redskins version of the Eagles?

http://www.examiner.com/x-450-Washington-Redskins-Examiner~y2009m11d12-A-new-Redskins-helmet-design

be nice if, after the game, McDaniels was wondering why he wanted Orton over Campbell...

Posted by: zcezcest1 | November 13, 2009 2:09 PM | Report abuse
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And then he will remember he got Robert Ayers out of the deal and laugh himself to sleep

"Zorn, however, is prepared to have a running game "by committee unless Ladell feels great."

sigh.....nothing....n/m....just hurts...

Posted by: BeantownGreg1 | November 13, 2009 2:13 PM | Report abuse
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Like nailing jello to a wall, no?

Sorry Red, can't roll with you on this one.

Once CP26 single-handedly delivers us a Superbowl victory, maybe I'll start mentioning them in the same sentence and excusing some of his prima-donna antics.

Posted by: p1funk | November 13, 2009 1:43 PM |

Riggo was Riggo. With Portis you had all these strange alter egos like Southeast Jerome, Coach Janky Spanky ...

J Reid: "Betts rushed for a team-high 70 yards (he had a 4.7-yard average) and his first touchdown."

It seems like you have posted this at least 12 times so far. Why not post another 12 times just to make sure Martians see it?

Sorry Red, can't roll with you on this one.

Once CP26 single-handedly delivers us a Superbowl victory, maybe I'll start mentioning them in the same sentence and excusing some of his prima-donna antics.

Posted by: p1funk | November 13, 2009 1:43 PM |

Riggo was Riggo. With Portis you had all these strange alter egos like Southeast Jerome, Coach Janky Spanky ...

Posted by: ElDrano | November 13, 2009 2:19 PM

IMO, big difference with Riggo and CP and why some don't give the same love to CP is Wins and SBs. Winning helps people put up with things they don't while losing. SBs help even more.

Both played hard on game day...

Maybe getting an offensive line is as easy as selling Snyder on the greater marketing potential of "HOGS 2.0" versus the marketing potential of a McCoy, Bradford or Tebow. I could envision all kinds of charts and diagrams showing the correlation between winning and marketing revenue. Maybe when they fire Vinny they should get someone with better PowerPoint skills so they can sell their plans to the big boss.

Posted by: RedSkinHead | November 13, 2009 2:12 PM | Report abuse

Love it. How about the hogs 2.0 not wear dresses though? Let's make them wart hogs instead. We can get tusks and those legion of doom spikey shoulder pads.

Riggo was Riggo. With Portis you had all these strange alter egos like Southeast Jerome, Coach Janky Spanky ...

Posted by: ElDrano | November 13, 2009 2:19 PM | Report abuse
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Those were genuinely funny. The mysterious disappearance of Southeast Jerome after appearing before a blowout loss to the Giants? Priceless. And coach Janky Spanky, 'Gimme 12 Sean Taylors and Portis is stopped'? Comedic gold.

Maybe getting an offensive line is as easy as selling Snyder on the greater marketing potential of "HOGS 2.0" versus the marketing potential of a McCoy, Bradford or Tebow. I could envision all kinds of charts and diagrams showing the correlation between winning and marketing revenue. Maybe when they fire Vinny they should get someone with better PowerPoint skills so they can sell their plans to the big boss.

Posted by: RedSkinHead | November 13, 2009 2:12 PM | Report abuse

Posted by: RedSkinHead |

Whats funny is that the OL guys are big time among Skins fans. Skins fans love blue collar players. Even with a HOF like Monk, fans speak about his blocking, the way he hit DBs, etc.

As a fan base, we've never gravitated to flash.

Having one star, that is for a different NFC East team, and just for the record, f-em.

Smith, Betts, Heyer should play

http://washingtontimes.com/weblogs/redskins/2009/nov/13/smith-betts-heyer-should-play/

Interesting article ... an all time NFL record held by a Redskin might fall this year ...

http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2009/11/12/SPMO1AJJ5L.DTL

Smith, Betts, Heyer should play

http://washingtontimes.com/weblogs/redskins/2009/nov/13/smith-betts-heyer-should-play/

Posted by: Curzon417 | November 13, 2009 2:28 PM | Report abuse

So a guy that hasn't taken an NFL snap this year will be going against the guy tied for the NFL lead in sacks.

A guy who is a half sack shy of the league lead in sacks given up will be defending the other side?

A guy that played 2 NFL games in his career will be starting at right guard.

I really really think we need a third QB on the active roster this weekend.

"And then he will remember he got Robert Ayers out of the deal and laugh himself to sleep

Posted by: mattsoundworld"

And then he'll remember he selected Knowshon Moreno instead of Brian Orakpo and return to bashing his head.

Whats funny is that the OL guys are big time among Skins fans. Skins fans love blue collar players. Even with a HOF like Monk, fans speak about his blocking, the way he hit DBs, etc.

As a fan base, we've never gravitated to flash.

Having one star, that is for a different NFC East team, and just for the record, f-em.

Posted by: zcezcest1 | November 13, 2009 2:27 PM | Report abuse
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Which is why you would want to bring the WCO to the Skins, right? Cause Danny Boy grew up watching smash mouth and now suddenly thinks Twinkle Toes is gonna get it done.

Which is why you would want to bring the WCO to the Skins, right? Cause Danny Boy grew up watching smash mouth and now suddenly thinks Twinkle Toes is gonna get it done.

Posted by: mattsoundworld | November 13, 2009 2:34 PM

The problem there is not bringing in the WCO, it's that what Zorn brought is not any version of a WCO.

roger craig = twinkle toes?

"And then he will remember he got Robert Ayers out of the deal and laugh himself to sleep

Posted by: mattsoundworld"

And then he'll remember he selected Knowshon Moreno instead of Brian Orakpo and return to bashing his head.

Posted by: psps23 | November 13, 2009 2:34 PM | Report abuse
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Orton + Knowshown + Ayers > JC + Orakpo... I seem to remember reading a post about the Redskins starting RB being out and their backup being nicked. Oh wait...

I'm just sayin' (and the record backs me up) Im not cryin if Im in McDaniels shoes, even with a loss Sunday.

mattsoundworld,
Good point. If Snyder really grew up watching and admiring the Redskins, then wouldn't he want more of the smash-mouth play-action offense that Gibbs brought to town? Maybe Vinny is a better salesman than I thought if he was able to convince Snyder that is what the fans wanted... or maybe Snyder really doesn't know jack shiz about football...

And then he'll remember he selected Knowshon Moreno instead of Brian Orakpo and return to bashing his head.

Posted by: psps23 | November 13, 2009 2:34 PM

I takes shon to knowshon. Been waiting three years to bust that out. Sorry, people. I'll be at the airport holiday inn for the midnight show....

MistMoe, say it weren't you.

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Police: Man called five times, said he had run out of cell phone minutes

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/33907396/ns/us_news-weird_news/

Curzon417,
"Do, or do not - there is no try." - Yoda.

You either go WCO or you don't. Personally, I think what Zorn is running is WCO, only his version of it. Sherm Lewis is a disciple of the WCO and I have not heard him once say that this is not a West Coast Offense. In my opinon, if it ain't what we used to run, and the coach is a WCO coach, it must be his idea of the WCO.

You either go WCO or you don't. Personally, I think what Zorn is running is WCO, only his version of it. Sherm Lewis is a disciple of the WCO and I have not heard him once say that this is not a West Coast Offense. In my opinon, if it ain't what we used to run, and the coach is a WCO coach, it must be his idea of the WCO.

Posted by: RedSkinHead | November 13, 2009 2:48 PM | Report abuse

The WCO is supposed to spread the defense horizontally from sideline to sideline in the shallow part of the field. This should open up some running lanes and it should also set up a deep pass. Our problem is that we don't use out patterns or quick outs or slants. We don't spread the defense horizontally. We don't use the sidelines. I would love to see Malcolm Kelly and Marko Mitchell used to do this.

It

I takes shon to knowshon. Been waiting three years to bust that out. Sorry, people. I'll be at the airport holiday inn for the midnight show....

Posted by: Realness1

Opening for Murph and the Magictones?

mattsoundworld,
Good point. If Snyder really grew up watching and admiring the Redskins, then wouldn't he want more of the smash-mouth play-action offense that Gibbs brought to town? Maybe Vinny is a better salesman than I thought if he was able to convince Snyder that is what the fans wanted... or maybe Snyder really doesn't know jack shiz about football...

Posted by: RedSkinHead | November 13, 2009 2:43 PM | Report abuse
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Thank you for catching my alley-oop there.

I understand that the WCO is not necessarily 'twinkly', but the Niners were loaded thanks to the pre-FA era, so they could have run whatever they wanted and been successful with it.

But now we can look at the teams that have tried to replicate the Walsh formula: The Eagles have been the most consistent with it, as the Niners, Packers, Seahawks, Bucs, and Raiders have all fallen back into the pack after brief trips to the mountain top. But even the Eagles don't have a SB to show for it.

The 'dynasties' of the FA era (Cowboys, Steelers, Pats, Broncos) were all pretty much built to get in your face for 60 minutes. The Bucs and Ravens basically won sans offense, so you gotta chalk that up to smash mouth D.

The only exception I can think of was the Rams, which managed to luck out with at least 4 HOFers, possibly 5 (Pace, Warner, Holt, Faulk, Bruce being the wild card), just on one side of the ball.

"Orton + Knowshown + Ayers > JC + Orakpo..."

I wouldn't go that far. Orton isn't taking Denver to any titles, just like JC isn't taking us. Right now, both are holdovers. They're just enjoying more short-term success, but in the end, it means nothing. We'll both need new QBs.

Ayers has shown nothing so far, Knowshon has shown flashes, Orakpo is already an impact player. Ayers may turn into a solid player, but Orakpo could be on his way to stardom.

Orakpo > Knowshon + Ayers

Believe that.

It's one of the few solaces we can take out of this miserable season.

Opening for Murph and the Magictones?

Posted by: zcezcest1 | November 13, 2009 3:03 PM

I wish.

You either go WCO or you don't. Personally, I think what Zorn is running is WCO, only his version of it. Sherm Lewis is a disciple of the WCO and I have not heard him once say that this is not a West Coast Offense. In my opinon, if it ain't what we used to run, and the coach is a WCO coach, it must be his idea of the WCO.

Posted by: RedSkinHead |

Vinny sold Danny on the WCO. It was perhaps Vinny's biggest move of all. Toss out all the Gibbs 2.0 stuff. Then Vinny brought in Zorn specifically to run the WCO and develop Campbell.

Its the reason Zorn and Vinny are so tightly tied together.

Danny bought the package and its been a disaster. Meanwhile, its interesting in a train wreck kind of way to see how Vinny and Zorn are trying to unhitch themselves from each other ... as if its only one guy who is the problem.

So Mike Smith, Big Al and Dirty Thirty are fined $15,000, $7,500, and $5,000 respectively for an altercation after a play and out of bounds, but Chad Ochocinco is fined $20,000 for a $1 "bribe" that EVERYONE knew was a joke.

Not saying Chad shouldn't have been fined, but....

Goodell is an idiot.

I long for the days of Pete Rozelle.

Orakpo > Knowshon + Ayers

Posted by: psps23 | November 13, 2009 3:05 PM | Report abuse
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That's 1 starter for 2, and we need help at DE and RB.

This is an interesting debate, because you are probably exactly right that Orakpo is the better draft pick in a vacuum, but did we need a DE? Apparently not as much as we needed a LB.

I'm not opposed to picking Orakpo, and if I'm sitting at the draft board I do it 100 out of 100 times. But in terms of building a TEAM, the Broncos obviously played their cards correctly.

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In Betts We trust!

Betts Pockets Strait!

I think all offense should follow the timeless advice of Nathan Bedford Forrest:

"Get there firstest with the mostest men and don't tell nobody yousa comin'!

I'll call it the NFB offense.

"That's 1 starter for 2, and we need help at DE and RB."

Ayers doesn't start for them. He may in the future, but he doesn't right now (he also may not start for them in future, and just be a bust).

I think Denver did an excellent job remaking their team (7 new starters on defense), but I do not think they played their cards well early in the draft. They could have had Brian Orakpo and LeSean McCoy (DE and RB), but instead took Moreno and Ayers. Not exactly a home run there. Neither of Denver's selections have shown that their worth their slot thus far in their very early NFL careers.

Meanwhile, I think we did hit a home run with our one and only option early in the draft, which again is one of the few solaces we can take out of this season.

Posted by: Curzon417
IMO, big difference with Riggo and CP and why some don't give the same love to CP is Wins and SBs. Winning helps people put up with things they don't while losing. SBs help even more.

Both played hard on game day...

Been watching video of Riggo Running the football on youtube back in the 80's. The difference between him and Portis and a lot of todays backs is Riggo always finished. By that I mean he didn't run out of bounds. Instead he stayed in bounds, running people over. Stiff - arm or a shoulder, Riggo truely was the Diesel.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wGI0U1DDT4E

Let's not forget Riggo's little buddie!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kBkpfWrGATg&feature=related

WHO CARES?!!!!!!!!

WHO CARES?!!!!!!!!

Posted by: lylewimbledon

You do because you are reading what's on this board. Go back to bed and start over.

I would like to see, the rookie fullback Eddie Williams get a shot at running/ catching out of the backfield.

Lets see what the young man has !

My glass is half full, but maybe the Redskins are playing possum with Betts' foot injury?

Go Betts! Go Skins! F-K Dallas!

I have every Tony Kornheiser from the 1991 - 1992 series "The Bandwagon" This sorry excuse for a football team should should check it out. It was the last Suberbowl we won, TOO MANY moons ago.

I just read in this column that Betts, is tied with the team leaders in rushing touchdowns. The GOD FORSAKEN PUNTER with one and our star running back, Clinton "who.. me practice?" Portis. Heck, at this rate Zorn has the opportunity to beat them all out as he runs off the field. It goes to show you the safest place to go when there is a tornado in town...go to FEDEX Field...There is never a TOUCHDOWN there.

Been watching video of Riggo Running the football on youtube back in the 80's. The difference between him and Portis and a lot of todays backs is Riggo always finished. By that I mean he didn't run out of bounds. Instead he stayed in bounds, running people over. Stiff - arm or a shoulder, Riggo truely was the Diesel.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wGI0U1DDT4E

Posted by: hessone | November 13, 2009 3:38 PM

For our younger viewers, please watch a running back that never goes backwards, or sideways, and a line that crushes the enemy.

A man who, upon seeing a linebacker or defensive back, sees an opportunity to drop the shoulder and pulverize someone, not a reason to run out of bounds.

Please watch a man who took the offensive load on his back and destroyed opposition in the playoffs. A man who won a Superbowl MVP and scored the winning touchdown.

The Hogs, and their honorary No. 44, who had no regard for their own safety, let alone the safety of the other team.

Clinton, you're a great athlete, but this is why we'll always love Riggo.

Varlamov added through an interpreter: "I have to concede that it was an easy goal. I blame myself. But it's vital to forget those goals and concentrate on the game."

Even through an interpreter, Varlamov has better grammer than Portis and Moss. And he excepts responsibility for his bad play and doesn't make lame excuses.

grammar not grammer - It was the pencils fault.

sign marcus mason back?

sign marcus mason back?

WE NEED TO SIGN LARRY JOHNSON HE IS A BRUISER WHO IS NOT SCARED TO TRUCK PEOPLE OVER

WE NEED TO SIGN LARRY JOHNSON HE IS A BRUISER WHO IS NOT SCARED TO TRUCK PEOPLE OVER

here's the deal, nothing against portis, but when you have a back who practices during the week and is a little more mild manneredthen clinton portis. I think it helps the whole offense. A. you can run better because the guy practices, the offensive line is more in sync with the guy, it's less pressure on campbell when you run, it opens up the pass attack, and you keep our defense fresh...people like Big Al and co...So I say run it, stuff it down denvers throat and keep their offense on the sidelines if you can....