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Campbell Takes the Long View

From the reaction on the Internet and sports-talk radio, it seems many Redskins fans are ready to give up on the season after a Week 1 loss to the New York Giants. But quarterback Jason Campbell still plans to play in the remaining 15 regular-season games.

"I understand people being disappointed we didn't win, but the way some people get down so quickly, it's just crazy," Campbell said. "We all wanted to go out and get off to a good start, it wasn't like we didn't want to win, but it was our first game against a really good team.

"We still can accomplish the things we want to as a team as long as everyone just takes responsibility for themselves and does their job. That's a big thing we've been talking about [since camp]: Just do your job and don't worry about what anyone else is doing. That's what we have to do. Just do your job."

Campbell was critical of himself for committing two turnovers - including one returned for a touchdown - in Sunday's 23-17 loss at Giants Stadium. Trying to make a play late in the first half, Campbell held the ball too long in the pocket and defensive end Osi Umenyiora forced a fumble, recovered the ball and returned it 37 yards to extend the Giants' lead to 17-0.

Campbell - who faced much more pressure than Giants quarterback Eli Manning - also threw an interception. He completed 19 of 26 passes for 211 yards and teamed with tight end Chris Cooley on a late 17-yard touchdown pass. For the game, Campbell had a 93.6 passer rating. Manning had a 93.5 rating.

During his first full season as a starter in 2007, Campbell had major problems with ball security and opponents recovered eight of his 13 fumbles in 13 games. With the help of Coach Jim Zorn's ball-security drills, Campbell committed only one turnover among seven fumbles last season.

Campbell takes great pride in his improvement in that area "but I just held the ball too long there. It wasn't because of anything like that [a fumbling problem]; I just needed to get rid of the ball sooner. He [Umenyiora] is a great player and he made a great play.

"We have some plays that take longer to develop than others, some of the routes, and I always want to give our guys a chance to get open. I don't ever want to give up on a play. But as a quarterback, you have to understand you just need to get rid of the ball sometimes. That was one of those times, so I got on myself about that."

And Campbell was critical of some of his teammates for their mistakes, too. In keeping with his more-vocal approach this season, Campbell, in his second season as a team captain, expressed his feelings to teammates on a few occasions when mental and physical miscues contributed to stalled drives.

TV cameras did not show Campbell admonishing teammates often, "but it's not about doing it for TV. It's about everyone doing what we have to do to be successful as a team. People say I'm not vocal because they don't see my saying something and they don't know what I do [in the privacy of the locker room].

"That's fine. I'm not doing it just so people think I'm doing something. Whatever I do, I'm doing because that's what I feel is needed from me as the quarterback of this team. We just didn't play the way we're capable of playing, and I said what I needed to say about myself and some other things."

Campbell declined to provide specifics about what disappointed him most against the Giants, but he stressed "we all have to look at what we did out there and be honest with ourselves. If guys look at it and say they played great, then they're just not being honest. We can all do better - players, coaches, everyone. I'm talking about myself, too. But we've got to be honest at take responsibility. If we do that, we'll be fine."

By Jason Reid  |  September 15, 2009; 10:46 AM ET
Categories:  Jason Reid  
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Comments

flounder21

I have moved on.

In fact, as a long-term thinker, check out the schedule:

9/13 @ Giants L 17 - 23
9/20 VS Rams
9/27 @ Lions
10/4 VS Buccaneers
10/11 @ Panthers
10/18 VS Chiefs


With some improved offense, the skins could go into the bye 5-2 or 4-3.

Prince Al's issues aside, improvement in the passing game is the biggest issue facing the team.

I don't hate this team.

I hate that it looks like the team that ended last season 8-8.

Posted by: MistaMoe | September 15, 2009 10:59 AM | Report abuse

you guys got the breakfast thing all wrong -

need some egg beaters, some soy sausage patties, and some steel-cut oatmeal (not the instant kind).

Posted by: RITCA

Posted by: RITCA | September 15, 2009 11:00 AM | Report abuse

Let's get our FIRST win on Sumday

Posted by: frediefritz | September 15, 2009 11:00 AM | Report abuse

C'mon, Soup... I believe in ya...

Posted by: NateinthePDX | September 15, 2009 11:00 AM | Report abuse

mista,

I agree it looked very bad on Sunday, hopefully they will win atleast 4 of the next 5.

Posted by: Flounder21 | September 15, 2009 11:03 AM | Report abuse

"Campbell Takes the Long View"


His view notwithstanding, Campbell should be on an 8 game leash.

If Reid can bench McNabb to add a spark to the iggles O, why can't Campbell be benched if he can't be an offensive leader?

Posted by: MistaMoe | September 15, 2009 11:03 AM | Report abuse

"...Campbell, in his second season as a team captain, expressed his feelings to teammates on a few occasions when mental and physical miscues contributed to stalled drives."

LOL. I just get the impression that he went back into the huddle and said, "Gosh darn it! Ladell, please hold on to the ball when I throw it to you. Gee whiz, I apologize for getting so spun up."

Posted by: RedSkinHead | September 15, 2009 11:05 AM | Report abuse

When season is done, we will be happy with 9-7, say we were correct with 8-8, and be disappointed with a 7-9.

We will end up with one of the three above possibilities.

And as usual, we will be on the fringe of the playoffs and probably watching on TV.

Funny how the good teams always managed to pull off a victory. See Pats, Chargers, Ravens, and Steelers. Not so much for the Cardinals though.

Posted by: fearturtle44 | September 15, 2009 11:05 AM | Report abuse

We can easily be 5-1 but we will be 3-3. I still say 9-7 on the season but it will be a late run.

The Redskins will lose to Detroit. Book it.

Posted by: Original_etrod | September 15, 2009 11:07 AM | Report abuse

Jason Campbell: the huddle whisperer...

Posted by: RedSkinHead | September 15, 2009 11:08 AM | Report abuse

I hate seeing all of the negative people on these boards. What's the point of being a fan without any optimism at all? I know you'll say that makes you even more of a fan because you want what's best for the team. Well, let's be optimistic about what we have already and root for the team that is already set for the rest of the year. We lost to a definite super bowl contender, and even though we didn't look great, we kept it close. I don't want to hear about what the score could/should have been. I do think that the play calling needs to be more dynamic. But other than that, we've got some great players. Moss and the WRs have a lot of potential. All of you ARE haters... Where are you now? He was excellent on Sunday! We've got a very favorable schedule this year. Let's enjoy these next winnable games and see how the confidence builds after notching some wins!! Come on people!! Let's go Skins!!

Posted by: johntaylor2 | September 15, 2009 11:08 AM | Report abuse

I haven't given up on the season or the team.. I have however given up on Campbell.

Posted by: sovine08 | September 15, 2009 11:09 AM | Report abuse

His view notwithstanding, Campbell should be on an 8 game leash.

If Reid can bench McNabb to add a spark to the iggles O, why can't Campbell be benched if he can't be an offensive leader?


Posted by: MistaMoe


You think that if we're sitting at 4-4 or 3-5, pulling Campbell for Todd is going to save our season, given our 2nd half schedule?

JC had a better QB rating than Eli. He was not our biggest problem. He made TWO bad plays. One, Moss could have prevented. The other, Osi made a great play.

If youre going to bench JC, you better bench Landry and Hall for having as many or more bad plays. Bench Sherm Smith for awful playcalling. Bench CP for not having the wheels anymore.

We will right the ship.

Posted by: Rypien11 | September 15, 2009 11:10 AM | Report abuse

Step up in the f'ing pocket and you don't fumble. Holding the ball too long there had nothing to do with it.

Posted by: ToddStinkston | September 15, 2009 11:12 AM | Report abuse

I disagree that Campbell was under more pressure than Eli.

Our D-line put pressure on Eli, it's just that Eli knows how to step up in the pocket, not panic, and get rid of the ball quickly.
Campbell isn't so good at that.

Our O-line did great pass pro against the best D-line in the NFL (run blocking was a different story). But let's not use the O-line as a scapegoat for Campbell's problems.

Also, comparing Campbell's passer rating to Eli's is extremely misleading.
Take away the garbage Campbell picked up in the last 2 mins of the game and let me know what his passer rating is?
As far as I'm concerned, anytime a 5th year NFL QB throws a ball 5 yards past the line of scrimmage and get it picked off, that's an automatic 50 points deducted from your passer rating!

Look, Campbell had a lousy game. Our entire team, coaches included, had a lousy game and we all know we're lucky that we didn't get blown out.

But it's just Game 1. Long ways to go... unless we lose to the Rams, then I call DirecTv and cancel my NFL package.

Posted by: jgarrisn | September 15, 2009 11:12 AM | Report abuse

Blah, blah, blah. Saying the right thing isn't going to get it done. This team lacks vision, professionalism and heart.

Posted by: peterandmeredith | September 15, 2009 11:13 AM | Report abuse

People are upset with Campbell because this is his 5th season and he has NO SENSE OF URGENCY! We are all tired of waiting for him to step up and deliver...I think we all KNOW he is not capable of producing at a high level. He is Mark Rypien LITE. Cheers

Posted by: MPNangle | September 15, 2009 11:14 AM | Report abuse

LOL. I just get the impression that he went back into the huddle and said, "Gosh darn it! Ladell, please hold on to the ball when I throw it to you. Gee whiz, I apologize for getting so spun up."

Posted by: RedSkinHead | September 15, 2009 11:05 AM

Jason Campbell: the huddle whisperer...

Posted by: RedSkinHead | September 15, 2009 11:08 AM

You weren't funny the first time. No need to keep trying.

Posted by: TWISI | September 15, 2009 11:14 AM | Report abuse

It irritates me to hear Campbell complaining about how people are getting down on the team after one game. That's happening because we've seen what happened in recent years, and this game looked just like more of the same.

Posted by: tomtildrum | September 15, 2009 11:14 AM | Report abuse

If Reid can bench McNabb to add a spark to the iggles O, why can't Campbell be benched if he can't be an offensive leader?


Posted by: MistaMoe | September 15, 2009 11:03 AM


Because Reid can go to a guy the team invested a high 2nd rounder on (Kolb), Michael Vick or Jeff Garcia. If the Skins bench JC, you've got Collins without the Saunders mojo and literally nothing else.

The Eagles have options at that spot, the Skins don't.

Posted by: brownwood26 | September 15, 2009 11:16 AM | Report abuse

"

I hate seeing all of the negative people on these boards. What's the point of being a fan without any optimism at all? I know you'll say that makes you even more of a fan because you want what's best for the team. Well, let's be optimistic about what we have already and root for the team that is already set for the rest of the year. We lost to a definite super bowl contender, and even though we didn't look great, we kept it close. I don't want to hear about what the score could/should have been. I do think that the play calling needs to be more dynamic. But other than that, we've got some great players. Moss and the WRs have a lot of potential. All of you ARE haters... Where are you now? He was excellent on Sunday! We've got a very favorable schedule this year. Let's enjoy these next winnable games and see how the confidence builds after notching some wins!! Come on people!! Let's go Skins!!"

Posted by: johntaylor2 | September 15, 2009 11:08 AM | Report abuse

_______________________________________

People want to be optimistic about this team, but lets face it... over the last 10-15 years this fanbase has been programed to expect that things aren't going to work out. This team constantly crushes our hopes.

At some point they'll need to give us a reason to cheer.

Posted by: dfbovey | September 15, 2009 11:16 AM | Report abuse

"All of you ARE haters... Where are you now? He was excellent on Sunday!"

johntaylor2, I wouldn't say he was excellent, he was terrific playing where he belongs, in the slot, but on the second play from scrimmage he made a humongo mistake that took the wind out of our sails. Notwithstanding the true opinion that our team should have the character to withstand a setback like that, that mistake was ARE's alone... and it cost us big.

Posted by: NateinthePDX | September 15, 2009 11:17 AM | Report abuse

JohnTaylor I dont know how many ARE haters there are here... I think the issue was that we had to play him at #2 out of the position he is best suited for "slot". I think he will have a good season problem is when you move him to the slot that means your #2 receiver needs to step it up... Where in the h#ll was Malcolm Kelly? One thing I was pondering as we tried to pound it in three straight times with no success where in the SJK is the fade route to the back of the endzone?? Is that not part of the WCO Bible?

Posted by: BenchCampbell | September 15, 2009 11:17 AM | Report abuse

***Food & Health Post***

A Kings Breakfast:

Two Fried Eggs
Corned Beef Hash
One Hashbrown
One Cheese Egg Patty
One Piece of Scrapple
One Biscuit Covered With Sausage Gravy
A "Tall" Glass of Water

I eat this probably about three out of seven days... And I can't even push over the 200 pound mark.. plus I have at minimum three beers a day. Vodka is the drink on most weekends... And can be found gorging on other fattening foods such as cakes (Hostess and Tastykakes BABY!), drinking sugar water (gatorade, kool-aid, and other fruit drinks).

I think dude to a high metabolism, and a constant intake of water, I can't eclipse 200.

Oh, and water is vastly underrated. Nothing like ice cold water when you're really thirsty. I drink A LOT of water, which reminds me..

Posted by: RedDMV | September 15, 2009 11:18 AM | Report abuse

JC and the rest don't take each game seriously enough IMO. "we can still meet our goals etc, etc, etc." Shouldn't your goals make you reach higher than being average? JC says, "we wanted to win, but they were a good team, and tough" WTF happened to standing up and demanding better.
BTW, stats are for kids that don't know any better.

Posted by: 1965skinsfan | September 15, 2009 11:20 AM | Report abuse

"Campbell - who faced much more pressure than Giants quarterback Eli Manning."

Please stop the nonsense. If anything, Eli was under more pressure. Dude got hit hard several times. He also completed two huge third downs while getting smacked.

I mean, come on. I like Campbell too and want him to succeed, but the pass protection was one of the few positive things about the Giants game.

Posted by: MylesMonroe | September 15, 2009 11:22 AM | Report abuse

You weren't funny the first time. No need to keep trying.

Posted by: TWISI

Thank you. Thank you. I'll be here all week...

Posted by: RedSkinHead | September 15, 2009 11:22 AM | Report abuse

***Food & Health Post***

A Kings Breakfast:

Two Fried Eggs
Corned Beef Hash
One Hashbrown
One Cheese Egg Patty
One Piece of Scrapple
One Biscuit Covered With Sausage Gravy
A "Tall" Glass of Water

Posted by: RedDMV

Does anyone have cardiologist EMAIL ADD?

Posted by: Kenbeatrizz | September 15, 2009 11:22 AM | Report abuse

"We've got a very favorable schedule this year. Let's enjoy these next winnable games..."

Posted by: johntaylor2

Let's guts out cheer for a single victory this Sunday. Non-medium, swinging souls, punch 'em in the mouth, Hail to being 1-1, and go from there...

Posted by: 4-12 | September 15, 2009 11:23 AM | Report abuse

RedDMV,

I don't know how old your are, but that diet will eventually catch up to you.

I used to be able to eat a 12 pack of tacos a day from Taco Bell until I pushed into my mid 30s. Before that I always hovered around 175 no matter what I ate. Not any more!

Posted by: dfbovey | September 15, 2009 11:23 AM | Report abuse

Where in the h#ll was Malcolm Kelly? One thing I was pondering as we tried to pound it in three straight times with no success where in the SJK is the fade route to the back of the endzone?? Is that not part of the WCO Bible?

Posted by: BenchCampbell | September 15, 2009 11:17 AM

I completely agree with that. I was wondering the same thing about the fade route on both of those red zone series. Kelly had at least 6 inches on the DB. Another play that I am really starting to hate is the WR quick screen. It has worked in the past. Don't think it will work anymore since we use it all the time. They used it to Moss when there were a bunch of defenders on that side. Kelly could have been open on that same play.

Posted by: johntaylor2 | September 15, 2009 11:23 AM | Report abuse

Red - Philadelphia Cheese Steak place here in Houston sells Tastycakes - I guess they import them specially - I just happened to see them when we were getting lunch the other day - gave my kids each a package of the Peanut Butter things - they couldn't believe how good they were - wanted special orders sent to their schools.

Posted by: JohnDinHouston | September 15, 2009 11:27 AM | Report abuse

2nd play on the first possession against the Giants:

On Zorn > ARE

Not. Even. Debatable.

Any coach with the least bit of sense would not have called a play like that until you develop a steady tempo.

Based on history of how this offense has performed under Zorn, tempo, or lack thereof, has been a big problem for the 'skins.

You rip off a 34 yard run by Portis, here's a stab-in-the-dark-hair-brain-idea:

RUN IT AGAIN!

Posted by: RedDMV | September 15, 2009 11:28 AM | Report abuse

etrod's breakfast of champions:

3 egg omlette with ham, green peppers and tomatoes topped off with some Texas Pete hot sauce.

Posted by: Original_etrod | September 15, 2009 11:28 AM | Report abuse

red, lol, water ain't gonna save you from that heart attack...that scrapple will go right to your hips....seriously, have you gotten your cholestol checked lately...

once I hit 33/34, it all slows down...

Posted by: BeantownGreg1 | September 15, 2009 11:29 AM | Report abuse

Rypien11, Sherm Smith is not the play caller. It's that guy with the spikey hair holding the play sheet. I think his name is Jim Zorn.

Second of all, the problem with Campbell's fumble was not that he held the ball too long, it was that he failed to slide forward into the pocket, which was created by his o-line.

Posted by: ZardsFan1 | September 15, 2009 11:30 AM | Report abuse

I swear to God, if I hear one more person cite Campbell's "qb rating" as some kind of indicator of success, I'm going to go crazy. QB rating is easily the most worthless and unreliable "stat" in all of football.

Also, do the people who cite JC's "93-whatever" rating realize that that's 93/158, and not 93/100?

Posted by: redskins459 | September 15, 2009 11:35 AM | Report abuse

Top Tier Skins, bring it every game when healthy:
these are the Skins i enjoy watching and rooting for:
London Fletcher, Rocky McIntosh, Chris Horton, Mike Sellers, Clinton Portis, Chris Samuels, Chris Cooley


Landry and Rogers are right there, close, they play great most of the time, Rogers dropped another pick I think on the 1st drive, but he and Landry come to play ball, but they could be better

Golston and Cartwright are tough football players too
i truly want Campbell to succeed, im rooting for you, but let's get it together

Posted by: retroskins14 | September 15, 2009 11:36 AM | Report abuse

WTF happened to standing up and demanding better.

1965skinsfan

You must have missed:

"Campbell was critical of himself for committing two turnovers"

and this

"And Campbell was critical of some of his teammates for their mistakes, too." he "expressed his feelings to teammates on a few occasions when mental and physical miscues contributed to stalled drives."

Posted by: TWISI | September 15, 2009 11:36 AM | Report abuse

Has anyone noticed that Campbell has to hold the ball back there when he thinks he's about to throw, because his wind up is so exaggerated. By holding it the way he was, it makes the motion faster when he does actually throw it.
You see most QB's holding the ball more securely until they decide to throw, and their motion is faster. This is an unfortunate trait of Campbell, and I hope he has better pocket awareness in the future to avoid strips like Osi's.

Posted by: rexforab | September 15, 2009 11:36 AM | Report abuse

LOL... screw you guys hating on my diet.

Geez, I said I ate it about three times a week, and that's a stretch. Probably more like one or two.

I know I can't eat like this forever, but I'm in my mid twenties...

Pastries are what happening. What y'all know about the bearclaws (the cinnamon and butter ones), the cinnamon roll joint in the mall, cinnamon pretzels, cheesecake, and krispy kream doughnuts?

Best Krispy Kream doughnut? The plain glazed doughnuts. Hot.

Posted by: RedDMV | September 15, 2009 11:39 AM | Report abuse

breakfast of the healthy (with jobs like cabbies or computer folks...can't think of the word...)
steel cut oatmeal with water or milk top it off with tiny bit of brown sugar, golden raisins, and some walnuts.

w/tea or mild coffee.

Posted by: dealer1 | September 15, 2009 11:40 AM | Report abuse

This programmer's typical breakfast: mini spooners (cheap miniwheats) with blueberries or bandannas, coffee.

Posted by: rexforab | September 15, 2009 11:42 AM | Report abuse

one of these day's we'll get the following post from red talking about what a great breakfast he had, followed by:


hhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh........................................

and thats when we'll know he's had a massive heart attack, and his head fell on his keyboard.....

Posted by: BeantownGreg1 | September 15, 2009 11:43 AM | Report abuse

retroskins14 has a point.

For all the McIntosh dissing, you never hear them call his name during the game like that.

I don't know if that's a good thing or bad thing.

No news is good news?

Posted by: RedDMV | September 15, 2009 11:45 AM | Report abuse

yes Twisi, I'd read that elsewhere but it doesn't seem to match up to the action on the field IMO.
With all the JC concerns (I think are valid) I think there is another problem with the team at RB. Clinton Portis looked a step slow to me and Betts has always been slow. Slow QB, slow RB's, below average WR's even Moss looked a step slower, equal average team. The league has implemented rules to open up the offense and encourage more scoring. The Skins need to figure that out some decade.

Posted by: 1965skinsfan | September 15, 2009 11:48 AM | Report abuse

McIntosh is the unsung hero of this defense, and has been for the last two years. His ONLY problem is the injury issue (which really hasn't been an issue, considering he's missed a grand total of 2 games in 4 years). Not a big play guy...just a guy that gets the job done.

Posted by: psps23 | September 15, 2009 11:48 AM | Report abuse

Those of you with small kids should get a kick out of this...I know I got a laugh out of it:

http://deadspin.com/5359100/the-best-and-worst-shows-kids-force-you-to-watch

Posted by: brownwood26 | September 15, 2009 11:51 AM | Report abuse

LMAO...

F you beantown...lol

At 25, I don't think so. I'd assume when I become at risk for heart attack the Redskins will by then have won a super bowl.

Then there would be no reason to post on this blog anymore because everyone would be too damn peachy and chipper all the time.

You'd call someone an a-hole and the response they'll give is "SB CHAMPS! WOO-HOO!!!"

Posted by: RedDMV | September 15, 2009 11:51 AM | Report abuse

JohnTaylor totally agree on that quick out is I think the other teams have that one read at this point.. where is the button hook why cant JC hit someone on a quick slant in stride.

Posted by: BenchCampbell | September 15, 2009 11:52 AM | Report abuse

dealer! Where you been?

Healthy breakfast of choice...Kashi Heart to Heart cereal, mixed w/ Trader Joes Golden Flax cereal, topped w/ blueberries.
And a STRONG cup of coffee.
And lots of water all day at work.

Posted by: 4-12 | September 15, 2009 11:53 AM | Report abuse

Oh JC, quit whining. You think people are negative NOW? Wait until next Monday after you have stunk up the joint against the Ramns and lost to yet another inferior team. People will be SCREAMING for Collins.

I really think this season is going to get ugly for him and Jim. By the end of it, they will likely be glad to be out of here.

I don't eat breakfast, except on Sundays. Wasted calories...no point in eating if you're not hungry.

Posted by: McMetal | September 15, 2009 11:53 AM | Report abuse

red, haha, thats funny....

You'd talk about the great breakfast you had.....followed by this weird pain in your arm....followed by some jibberish written by your forehead.......

Posted by: BeantownGreg1 | September 15, 2009 11:54 AM | Report abuse

With all the JC concerns (I think are valid) I think there is another problem with the team at RB. Clinton Portis looked a step slow to me and Betts has always been slow. Slow QB, slow RB's, below average WR's even Moss looked a step slower, equal average team. The league has implemented rules to open up the offense and encourage more scoring. The Skins need to figure that out some decade.

Posted by: 1965skinsfan | September 15, 2009 11:48 AM

Now this I can get behind. This offense isn't dynamic..yet. Which is why I'm hoping that JZ gets the younins involved more by opening the offense up. Get JC in the shotgun, he's a much better QB back there. Get DT, Kelly, Davis, Mitchell some touches, their speed should help with big plays.

Posted by: TWISI | September 15, 2009 11:55 AM | Report abuse

This is a 7-9 caliber team. Just accept it. Jason Campbell never has been and never will be a great, or even good, NHL quarterback. He's simply ok. How many seasons will the Skins waste (and Campbell apologists) before they realize that? This season is already done.

Posted by: bigeugene | September 15, 2009 11:56 AM | Report abuse

On the play that Campbell fumbled, it looked to me like he had all the time in world to make the play. All he had to do was step up into the pocket. It wasn't a matter of throwing the ball away or taking a sack/fumble. The interior of the line did a great job, and the outside tackles created plenty of space to step up into the pocket.

Posted by: SirAnonymoustheGreat | September 15, 2009 11:57 AM | Report abuse

4-12, deals been on the lions blog....

Posted by: BeantownGreg1 | September 15, 2009 11:57 AM | Report abuse

I agree Jason...you all should just "do your job".

Make tackles. Catch interceptions.

Understand the point is to stop the other team from progressing further down the field preferably before you ride him forward through the first down marker, not merely deliver the hardest possible knockout blow.

Line up in a manner that suggests you might actually want to prevent the opposing receiver from catching a 20 yard pass in front of you before you then whiff on the tackle.

Know where you are on the field and when to step up in the pocket.

Call plays that may actually work and give the team a chance to score touchdowns.

The reason I am so pissed off about this Giants game is because the Redskins collectively had their heads up their ass, played like tarted wu$$ies, and we get more of the same old excuse making.

Screw Excuses!!! Just STFU, make the simple plays, and win the game. Period.

Posted by: SkinsfaninKaneohe | September 15, 2009 11:58 AM | Report abuse

This team has only scored more then 32 points once in the last 50 games they've played (three seasons). I think we know what kind of offense we're going to get, i'm not sure why people thought it would be different this year with no significant additions. We have an ok offense which can put up in the 20's against crappy D's, and thats on a good day.

And for everyone who assumes we will stomp the rams, we only put up 17 points on probably the second or third worst team in the league last year.. and that was in the beginning of the season, before any meltdown.

Posted by: djnune03 | September 15, 2009 11:59 AM | Report abuse

This is a 7-9 caliber team. Just accept it.

Posted by: bigeugene

There are some things you should never accept.

1) Tofu as meat alternative.
2) The chick who replaced Chrissy on Three's Company.
3) That if the glove doesn't fit, you must acquit.
4) Mediocrity from my NFL team.

Posted by: Kenbeatrizz | September 15, 2009 12:01 PM | Report abuse

Agreed Sir Campbell shouldnt be thinking throw the ball away! how about step up and if you dont dont see someone breaking open RUN for it!!! Why does Campbell refuse to run? In Campbells last year of college when he went undefeated he made some great plays with his feet. Is someone telling him not to run and if so why??

Posted by: BenchCampbell | September 15, 2009 12:01 PM | Report abuse

"...no point in eating if you're not hungry."

Posted by: McMetal


What's your excuse? Coke, alcohol, or ecstasy?

I don't think you do crack.

Seriously, I don't know how anyone says they're not hungry in the morning. If I don't eat the King's Breakfast aka "coronary artery disease on a platter", then I at least have to have a bowl of cereal.

Posted by: RedDMV | September 15, 2009 12:02 PM | Report abuse

Also, I am sickened by what the NFL competition committee has done to the game of football. That hit by Wilfork on Edwards was textbook fundamental tackling, and he gets a penalty for a "low hit on the quarterback." I wish Laron Landry and others on the Skins who insist on hitting high and not wrapping up would follow Wilforks example. Oh wait....he was penalized.

Posted by: SirAnonymoustheGreat | September 15, 2009 12:03 PM | Report abuse

On the play that Campbell fumbled, it looked to me like he had all the time in world to make the play. All he had to do was step up into the pocket. It wasn't a matter of throwing the ball away or taking a sack/fumble. The interior of the line did a great job, and the outside tackles created plenty of space to step up into the pocket.

Posted by: SirAnonymoustheGreat | September 15, 2009 11:57 AM

You are partially correct. He DID have a lot of time and just needed to step up BUT he did also hold the ball too long AND he held the ball down at his side instead of with 2 hands on the ball in front of him.

Posted by: scampbell1975 | September 15, 2009 12:04 PM | Report abuse

"...but the way some people get down so quickly, it's just crazy." So quickly?! It's been FOUR EFF'N YEARS! WE'VE SEEN THE SAME SH!TSHOW EVERY WEEK FOR OVER FOUR YEARS! At best, JC, your career is already HALF-OVER and not one week of this has been "quick", it's all been very slow. What WOULD be "quick" is your career highlight reel.

It's a shame we have to watch JC bury his career completely, and maybe other's!, before a change is made.

Posted by: DCV1 | September 15, 2009 12:05 PM | Report abuse

maybe JC will twist an ankle and Collins will come in. I'd like to see how good/bad he'd be in the starting role. Can't be much worse.

Posted by: 1965skinsfan | September 15, 2009 12:05 PM | Report abuse

Jason C.

You are going to get most of the blame when the Skins loose & too much of the credit when they win. That is the nauture of the QB position. Period!!

Posted by: dc4life | September 15, 2009 12:06 PM | Report abuse

Those of you with small kids should get a kick out of this...I know I got a laugh out of it:

http://deadspin.com/5359100/the-best-and-worst-shows-kids-force-you-to-watch
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Dude, that was awesome. I have a 2 and 3 year old so I totally get it.

The writer is WAY wrong on Yo Gabba Gabba though - that is the best kid's show EVER.

Wow Wow Wubbzy is a close second. That show is AWESOME. I can watch either of these with my kids and be totally entertained.

WORST shows: Dragontales - insipid and horribly animated
Wonderpets - just bizarre and stupid

I fully agree, Steve >>> Joel as far as Blue's Clues.

I also had to laugh about the guy's comment that his wife didn't want the kids to watch SpongeBob because she thought it was inappropriate. My wife has the same crazy opinion - WTF? IT'S A KID'S SHOW! It's not Ren & Stimpy, give me a break already.

Posted by: McMetal | September 15, 2009 12:06 PM | Report abuse

You are partially correct. He DID have a lot of time and just needed to step up BUT he did also hold the ball too long AND he held the ball down at his side instead of with 2 hands on the ball in front of him.

Posted by: scampbell1975 | September 15, 2009 12:04 PM | Report abuse

What good would it have been to step up into the pocket without the football?

Posted by: SirAnonymoustheGreat | September 15, 2009 12:06 PM | Report abuse

We need a White QB. Hate to say it, but ain't going nowhere without one.

Posted by: tjhall1 | September 15, 2009 12:06 PM | Report abuse

Campbell, you drone! It is not the loss, but how the Redskins lost! Ofcourse you are going to show up for the rest of the 15 games in order to continue to collect your paycheck, but if you are going to continue not showing any "skills" or "instincts" as a starting QB, you might as well stay at the sidelines to collect your checks. You took the Redskins out of a potential field goal situation with that inane "crossing over the line interception" and then you help the Giants score another TD with lousy pocket presence. That is a 10 - 17 point swing against the Redskins you created! The defense only gave up 16 points, so the 17 total points the Redskins scored may have been enough for an upset win. I will not even mention all the behind the receiver or miscommunication passes that you threw in the game despite all the OTAs in the Summer. When will you start showing us something?

Posted by: JohnWWW | September 15, 2009 12:06 PM | Report abuse

Is someone telling him not to run and if so why??

Posted by: BenchCampbell


It's Simple:

College Football ≠ Pro Football

Posted by: RedDMV | September 15, 2009 12:07 PM | Report abuse

Ha, forgot about dealer "becoming" a Lions fan. I'll wait for his Jon Jansen report.

Posted by: 4-12 | September 15, 2009 12:07 PM | Report abuse

Someone already said it but lets take a quit vote if we lose even 2 of the next 3...

Would anyone be opposed to firing up the Toddwagon???

Another good point made here earlier if McNabb can get benched why can Campbell?

Posted by: BenchCampbell | September 15, 2009 12:08 PM | Report abuse

Anyone have the clip of the fumble on the web. I stand by what I said about all his receivers being double covered.

Posted by: alex35332 | September 15, 2009 12:08 PM | Report abuse

Did he admonish Zorn's disgusting play calling? Or for that matter, at least try to get Zorn to change it up?

Posted by: ga8085 | September 15, 2009 12:08 PM | Report abuse

Not being negative just being honest. Campbell had a terrible game early and probably very well lost us the game. I understand everything that went down during the offseason and thte fact that it has created a heavy burden for Campbell to bear BUT. He drops back straight into Osi who should not have even been in the play at all. It was a great block by Samuels on the play. I thought one of the fundamentals of being a qb is to drop back and then step up into the pocket. Also the interception he threw wasn't his fault. Moss should ahve come back for the ball but I guess it was more important for Santana to get into fights instead of running his routes properly. One other thing that really bothered me about this game maybe more than anything else was the defense. Poor tackling to say the least and no intensity at all! The play calling by GB was terrible. With the big guys we have in the middle all you have to do is sent the blitz straight up the middle and you will get instant pressure everytime. I look to see improvement with each passing game. I hope.

Posted by: MaxnDC | September 15, 2009 12:10 PM | Report abuse

At this point in his career, J.C. has got to feel the pass rush with that Osi play. That play should have been set up to gain lots of yards because the Giants secondary could not hold coverage for that long. Let's hope that he can somehow figure that pocket pressence thing out before he gets benched for good.

Posted by: joeboggs | September 15, 2009 12:10 PM | Report abuse

We need a White QB. Hate to say it, but ain't going nowhere without one.

Posted by: tjhall1


I was hoping Pat White, the QB from West Virginia, didn't go as high as he did in the draft.

Posted by: RedDMV | September 15, 2009 12:10 PM | Report abuse

bean, rember now etrod was the first one to say skins will be destroyed by the lions...not me. i'll just second that.

4-12, i had #3...so been pretty crazy...

i'm a lions fan in bean's george bush like head. but if i had a choice i'd be a raider fan. same dysfunction as the skins but more hope (that davis will be gone soon)! :)

Posted by: dealer1 | September 15, 2009 12:12 PM | Report abuse

We need a White QB. Hate to say it, but ain't going nowhere without one.

Posted by: tjhall1 | September 15, 2009 12:06 PM | Report abuse

Least intelligent statement in awhile on here.

How would Ryan Leaf work for you?

Posted by: PortisPocketsStr8 | September 15, 2009 12:12 PM | Report abuse

As long as it's not Danny White... ugh...

Posted by: NateinthePDX | September 15, 2009 12:13 PM | Report abuse

The Philadelphia Eagles have placed two-time Pro Bowl offensive lineman Shawn Andrews on the injured reserve list due to his persistent back problem in order to make room for quarterback Jeff Garcia, who was signed Monday.

The decision to put Andrews on season-ending IR means the team is thin at offensive tackle, and may have to seek another tackle in the coming weeks. More roster moves will be made by the Eagles once Michael Vick is put on the active roster in preparation for Week 3. Vick is eligible to play again that week, when the Eagles are home against the Chiefs.

"It's disappointing to lose any player for the entire season, but we have full confidence in the other lineman we have on this roster to help this team succeed," Eagles coach Andy Reid said. "We wish Shawn all the best as he recovers and rehabilitates from this injury."

Andrews missed the entire preseason and season opener with a back injury. He briefly returned to practice, but his surgically repaired back flared up again.

Andrews practiced early last week in preparation for Philadelphia's game against Carolina. He called himself a "beast" and seemed excited about trying to block Julius Peppers. But Andrews tweaked his back Wednesday, sat out the next two days and couldn't play.

Posted by: dmorgan6617 | September 15, 2009 12:13 PM | Report abuse

RED you mean to tell me when a play breaks down that there is no place in the NFL to try and create some positive yardage with his legs??

Posted by: BenchCampbell | September 15, 2009 12:13 PM | Report abuse

tjhall1,
Is this the redneck who gets shot at the end of "three kings"?

Posted by: alex35332 | September 15, 2009 12:13 PM | Report abuse

deal is wearing his stafford jersey, and pretending to care about Redskin related issues.....its a total facade...

siranon, Wilfork has a rep as a dirty player, deservedly, which is what lead to that penalty on the take down of Edwards, anything around the knees, and they're going to call it....

Posted by: BeantownGreg1 | September 15, 2009 12:13 PM | Report abuse

"'I understand people being disappointed we didn't win, but the way some people get down so quickly, it's just crazy," Campbell said. "We all wanted to go out and get off to a good start, it wasn't like we didn't want to win, but it was our first game against a really good team.'"

What bothered me, and probably most fans, was not simply that the Redskins lost to the Giants, but instead that this loss looked so much like last season's loss to the Giants in the Meadowlands. And so much like the losses over the second half of the season. Anemic offense (10 points this game) focusing on what the defense gives instead of dictating the pace of the game. Where are last season's wide receivers? Why does Campbell seem to lock in one one receiver? Defense is pretty good, but not great; able to make some big stops, but not able to dominate the game by itself despite 1st round talent across the board.

So Jason Campbell should understand that fans are disappointed at the prospect of watching a rerun of next season.

Posted by: hithere1 | September 15, 2009 12:14 PM | Report abuse

You know when Al Davis dies the odds of the Raiders moving back to LA are like 70/30.

Posted by: alex35332 | September 15, 2009 12:15 PM | Report abuse

Seriously, I don't know how anyone says they're not hungry in the morning. If I don't eat the King's Breakfast aka "coronary artery disease on a platter", then I at least have to have a bowl of cereal.

Posted by: RedDMV |

Yeah, just never really been big on breakfast. My stomach is usually upset in the morning or still full from the night before.

I understand all the logic of why it is important to eat a regular, healthy, balanced breakfast, just not my thing.

Plus I'd have to wake up earlier, etc etc and it's already chaotic enough in the mornings trying to navigate the wife and kids. Not worth the effort.

And none if your options are my drug of choice. ;)

Posted by: McMetal | September 15, 2009 12:15 PM | Report abuse

"...but the way some people get down so quickly, it's just crazy." So quickly?! It's been FOUR EFF'N YEARS! WE'VE SEEN THE SAME SH!TSHOW EVERY WEEK FOR OVER FOUR YEARS!

Posted by: DCV1 | September 15, 2009 12:05 PM |

It's been much more than 4 years but I get what you're saying.

What good would it have been to step up into the pocket without the football?

Posted by: SirAnonymoustheGreat | September 15, 2009 12:06 PM |

I believe that was part of the point. If he would have held the ball where he was supposed to or gotten rid of the ball when he was supposed to he wouldn't have had to step up in the pocket.

Posted by: scampbell1975 | September 15, 2009 12:15 PM | Report abuse

Seriously, I don't know how anyone says they're not hungry in the morning. If I don't eat the King's Breakfast aka "coronary artery disease on a platter", then I at least have to have a bowl of cereal.

Posted by: RedDMV |

Yeah, just never really been big on breakfast. My stomach is usually upset in the morning or still full from the night before.

I understand all the logic of why it is important to eat a regular, healthy, balanced breakfast, just not my thing.

Plus I'd have to wake up earlier, etc etc and it's already chaotic enough in the mornings trying to navigate the wife and kids. Not worth the effort.

And none of your options are my drug of choice. ;)

Posted by: McMetal | September 15, 2009 12:16 PM | Report abuse

siranon, Wilfork has a rep as a dirty player, deservedly, which is what lead to that penalty on the take down of Edwards, anything around the knees, and they're going to call it....

Posted by: BeantownGreg1 | September 15, 2009 12:13 PM | Report abuse

I really couldn't care less about his reputation, and still wish the Skins would learn to tackle like him. The NFL has made this into a glorified flag football game.

Posted by: SirAnonymoustheGreat | September 15, 2009 12:16 PM | Report abuse

"From the reaction on the Internet and sports-talk radio, it seems many Redskins fans are ready to give up on the season after a Week 1 loss to the New York Giants"

Jason, what are you doing listening to the Internet and sports-talk radio? Shame on you.

Turn off the damn TV, too.

Posted by: Samson151 | September 15, 2009 12:17 PM | Report abuse

and by the way.....the belt is no where near the knees.

Posted by: SirAnonymoustheGreat | September 15, 2009 12:17 PM | Report abuse

SkinsFan is right...
The most frustrating thing about this team is just how poorly they execute the fundamentals. Seriously, if they don't give up stupid big plays, they were in a great position to win, even if it was a 9-6 game.

Now, I feel pretty good about our front 7 on defense. How great if we had a madman d-coordinator like buddy ryan who was aggressive.

Posted by: geehosophat | September 15, 2009 12:18 PM | Report abuse

So we have to save our "Andrews Sisters" jabs for next season... ah well.

Those Andrews boys came out of Camden, Arkansaw, a little town in the middle of nowhere that I called home for seven long years, through the end of high school. So I have something in common with them. The other thing I have in common with Shawn is that I don't expect to play a single down in the NFL this season.

Posted by: NateinthePDX | September 15, 2009 12:18 PM | Report abuse

We aren't disapointed because we lost JC. This article sums up why we are disappointed:

" season-opening loss was awfully familiar. Another bad opener in the Meadowlands. A so-so game from Jason Campbell. Mixed results from the big defensive acquisition. Wasted timeouts. Curious play-calling. Not much from the young receivers.

There was even another dropped interception from Carlos Rogers, who says he lost this one in the sun.

The start of Jim Zorn's second season was as disappointing, if not more so, than the start of his first. For the Redskins, the best thing to draw from Sunday's 23-17 loss to the New York Giants is that they recovered well after receiving a similar thumping in 2008."


Same ol' story.

Posted by: Gweez | September 15, 2009 12:18 PM | Report abuse

benchJC, all I'm saying is that Campbell doesn't have the speed to get away.

Someone compared Campbell to Tony Banks the other day, and while it sounds crazy as s***, it really isn't all that off.

Both could run when they had to, but preferred to stand in the pocket to make throws.

Besides, expecting Jason to move around outside the pocket is asking a lot.

He can't even shift his feet in the pocket.

Hey, JASON! Step the f up!

Posted by: RedDMV | September 15, 2009 12:19 PM | Report abuse

Definitely a lot of negativity here but I understand that after years of hope and promise only to end in disappointment, this is the end result. That being said, I only saw a couple of plays that went the Giants way (the fumble recovery TD and D.Hall's poor excuse for a tackle against Manningham as I don't think a TD was a given based on our D having already shut down their O on 4th down previously) versus a game of total domination by the Giants. They dominated time of possession because we couldn't get off the field on 3rd down which has always been a flaw but we also saw the strength of our team which is the Defensive front 7. We're better than our next five opponents and if we can squeeze out a couple of wins within the division, 11-5 or 10-6 with a shot at the post-season is a definite possibility. Remember this post folks

Posted by: j_rocksdaparty | September 15, 2009 12:19 PM | Report abuse

"What bothered me, and probably most fans, was not simply that the Redskins lost to the Giants, but instead that this loss looked so much like last season's loss to the Giants in the Meadowlands."Posted by: hithere1"

Like the sage said: all losses are alike. It's the victories that have a unique character.

Posted by: Samson151 | September 15, 2009 12:19 PM | Report abuse

Major congrats on #3 dealer!

Posted by: 4-12 | September 15, 2009 12:20 PM | Report abuse

11-5 j_ what is your drug of choice!??

Posted by: BenchCampbell | September 15, 2009 12:21 PM | Report abuse

We need a White QB. Hate to say it, but ain't going nowhere without one.

Posted by: tjhall1 | September 15, 2009 12:06 PM |

What? Pat White? Danny Whit? Major Applewhite?

You're a retard. Oops, I mean "tard"

Posted by: scampbell1975 | September 15, 2009 12:21 PM | Report abuse

Leave Jason alone. You should be lucky he even plays for you bastards.......

Posted by: dcwun | September 15, 2009 12:22 PM | Report abuse

11-5 j_ what is your drug of choice!??

Posted by: BenchCampbell | September 15, 2009 12:21 PM | Report abuse

Well, what have you got?

Posted by: Gweez | September 15, 2009 12:22 PM | Report abuse

J_ Show me 11 wins on our schedule...

Posted by: BenchCampbell | September 15, 2009 12:23 PM | Report abuse

LUNCH TIME, How bout a Soup Sandwitch!

Posted by: Spanglerg | September 15, 2009 12:23 PM | Report abuse

Campbell has to learn to conserve time outs for the last 2 minutes of the half or the game. Why do we always burn the timeouts? Audible to a different play if we're lined up wrong. Makes you wonder what they work on in all of those practice sessions. Campbell should be working overtime learning to throw a proper fade route to a TALL receiver in the endzone. Chase Daniel knew how to lob it up, Campbell throws the line drive ball there.

Posted by: VegasJim | September 15, 2009 12:24 PM | Report abuse

Nate- I believe I set an all-time low record with 54 fantasy points this week. I'll trade you my entire team for AP...

Posted by: 4-12 | September 15, 2009 12:24 PM | Report abuse

Red, what's your BMI or body fat percentage?

Posted by: learnedhand1 | September 15, 2009 12:26 PM | Report abuse

Am I the only one more concerned about the play calling than the QB?

Posted by: dcwun | September 15, 2009 12:26 PM | Report abuse

dc, no you're definetly not alone....

Posted by: BeantownGreg1 | September 15, 2009 12:28 PM | Report abuse

Nope dcwun.

I asked the question yesterday. When was the last time you watched a game and though, "Wow we really outschemed them today" on O or D? On D i remember a few Grilliams games. On O maybe Norv? Maybe Gibbs 1.0?

Posted by: Gweez | September 15, 2009 12:29 PM | Report abuse

Actually, I'm most concerned about Red's BMI

Posted by: JohnDinHouston | September 15, 2009 12:29 PM | Report abuse

Eli was NOT pressured more than Campbell. Eli just has something called pocket awareness and knows when to step up or to the side to avoid the pressue.

Also, fans are NOT upset that they lost. It's the way the lost. The Bills lost to a good team, but at least they put up a fight. Sure they lost on a boneheaded play, but they actually LEAD for most of the game and put it to the Pats until the very end. I'd be encouraged if I were a Bills fan.

The Skins rolled over and died against the Giants. The 93.6 passer rating is an illusion. Look at Campbell's stats before the last drive. They were pathetic!

Reid needs to get a clue.

Posted by: saqster | September 15, 2009 12:30 PM | Report abuse

http://deadspin.com/5359100/the-best-and-worst-shows-kids-force-you-to-watch

Posted by: brownwood26 | September 15, 2009 11:51 AM | Report abuse


No Phineas and Ferb on the 'best' list? I question that.

Posted by: Original_etrod | September 15, 2009 12:35 PM | Report abuse

DCWUN I am extremely concerned with the play calling... The offense is and has been IMO under Zorns watch. I was trying to remember the last time we had a solid win

Posted by: BenchCampbell | September 15, 2009 12:36 PM | Report abuse

Good to know that fellas. I'm wondering when "the Mayor" will disect and breakdown Zorn's poor play calling (going back to last year) and not worry about ruining any relationship.

Posted by: dcwun | September 15, 2009 12:37 PM | Report abuse

Oh JC; see Sanchez or the 2 rookie quaterbacks from last season that took their teams to the play-offs. It's about on the field intensity; not ear whispering on the sidelines. You want nice, no one has time for that, you almost lost your job with that 'no one sees how hard I try' stuff last yeat. Man get up and fight or move over and chill

Posted by: aypub | September 15, 2009 12:37 PM | Report abuse

I think the biggest prob with the skins is rhythm. Campbell and Zorn don't got it - and I blame that on communication - they'd get a good thing going and then everyone would lose focus and drives would stall. You'd have a nice play, then there would be the standard shot of Campbell staring off into the space while he listens to Zorn call in the the play and everyone else on the team mills around waiting to huddle up. And then on the next play you get a dropped ball or a mistake on a route.

When you watch good teams play, there's a rhythm that gets developed and carries over into the whole team... you saw it when they finally went no huddle at the end - I know the giants secondary was tired and lazy, but it also felt like the first time Campbell maintained focus straight through a drive.

Anyone who's ever played a sport knows that too much time to think can be as bad as too little... Campbell and Zorn need to get their @#$% together so Zorn isn't popping Campbells head out of the game every down.

Posted by: chrisb34 | September 15, 2009 12:38 PM | Report abuse

Is Zorn too stubborn to play to the strengths of his players?

I want to see Campbell in the shotgun more, perhaps some no-huddle when it's not needed. Seems to me JC is at his best in these situations. But I'm just another guy who knows absolutely nothing about NFL football...

Posted by: Yoder-lay-hee-who | September 15, 2009 12:43 PM | Report abuse

BEPPE, BEPPE

Posted by: BeantownGreg1 | September 15, 2009 12:43 PM | Report abuse

DCWUN I am extremely concerned with the play calling... The offense is and has been IMO under Zorns watch. I was trying to remember the last time we had a solid win

Posted by: BenchCampbell | September 15, 2009 12:36 PM | Report abuse

I think that has some to do with Zorn and some to do with our personnel...everyone knows the Skins major threats are CP, Moss, and Cooley...and have been since 2005. CP, Moss, Cooley...rinse and repeat. We need the younger guys -- MK12, DT11 and Sleepy Davis to step up or it'll be more of the same thing...scrapping and clawing for 17 points...

Posted by: mattylight | September 15, 2009 12:47 PM | Report abuse

Zorn and Campbell are done after 2009.

Bet on it.

This team didn't approve at all on offense from the Giants opener last year to the opener this year.

Let's recap:

1. 7 points scored last year, 3 points scored this year on offense until garbage time in the fourth quarter. The other TD was by the PUNTER.

2. A year later the team is still depending upon Portis, Moss and Cooley even with all the draft picks and talk by Zorn about how Kelly and Davis have matured, etc. 1 catch for 6 yards for Kelly? That's a contribution? If he was so new and improved why not play him more?

3. Zorn still does not trust Campbell in the game even though he defends and supports him during the week. Two-faced Jim still runs the ball on third down and calls for option passes by the WRs instead of having Campbell throw the ball down the field. Where is the improvement in Campbell, Jim? If he is improved why not trust him with the football more?

4. This team commits WAY too many penalties and seems to still come out flat in key games like Sunday's. The Giants came out and passed the ball crisply from the start and while they were not perfect, they didn't turn the ball over or make any glaring mistakes while they waited successfully for the Redskins to eventually implode. This is a safe strategy for teams on the Redskins schedule - allow Washington to shoot itself in the foot with turnovers and penalties and then reap the reward.

And THAT as much as anything is why the era of Zorn is in its twilight.

Posted by: leopard09 | September 15, 2009 12:48 PM | Report abuse

"Also, fans are NOT upset that they lost. It's the way the lost. The Bills lost to a good team, but at least they put up a fight. Sure they lost on a boneheaded play, but they actually LEAD for most of the game and put it to the Pats until the very end. I'd be encouraged if I were a Bills fan.

The Skins rolled over and died against the Giants. The 93.6 passer rating is an illusion. Look at Campbell's stats before the last drive. They were pathetic!"

Totally, totally agree. And this is what reminds me of last year's loss.

No, not all losses are alike, Sampson. Only most of the Redskins' losses of the last two seasons are. If I am a Bills fan, I am encouraged after last night. As a Redkins fan, I am discouraged about the WAY the Redskins lost.

Posted by: hithere1 | September 15, 2009 12:48 PM | Report abuse

"Also, fans are NOT upset that they lost. It's the way the lost. The Bills lost to a good team, but at least they put up a fight. Sure they lost on a boneheaded play, but they actually LEAD for most of the game and put it to the Pats until the very end. I'd be encouraged if I were a Bills fan.

The Skins rolled over and died against the Giants. The 93.6 passer rating is an illusion. Look at Campbell's stats before the last drive. They were pathetic!"

Totally, totally agree. And this is what reminds me of last year's loss.

No, not all losses are alike, Sampson. Only most of the Redskins' losses of the last two seasons are. If I am a Bills fan, I am encouraged after last night. As a Redskins fan, I am discouraged about the WAY the Redskins lost.

Posted by: hithere1 | September 15, 2009 12:48 PM | Report abuse

drink that koolade johntaylor2, it sure tastes good

Posted by: atidwell | September 15, 2009 12:49 PM | Report abuse

Man, this is even WORSE. Soup et al screw the pooch and now the FANS are off?!

The guy just doesn't understand. It's sad. He should be indignant, take responsibility, get PO'd and promise to fix what he did wrong.

Instead he wants to float on, like he always has.

Get it together, or get packin' Soup.

Posted by: DikShuttle | September 15, 2009 12:58 PM | Report abuse

Good coaches will take advantage of a teams weakness and will keep taking advantage of until the other team STOPS THEM. I guarantee that the Cowgirls will have more than 19 passes at the halfway point of the 4th quarter. Zorn should allow his "offensive coordinator to take over play calling. You are way too conservation Gibbs ( I mean Zorn)

Posted by: pennstate1 | September 15, 2009 12:59 PM | Report abuse

What's w/ the potshots at Gibbs?! He's the only coach to make the playoffs on this team in ages.

sukkards.

Posted by: DikShuttle | September 15, 2009 1:02 PM | Report abuse

Yeah he held the ball too long. How many Skins fans admired and felt envy over Big Ben holding the ball and making plays?

Listen, you pass: mistakes happen.

Posted by: OrganicWater | September 15, 2009 1:02 PM | Report abuse

Its not so much that I wanted the team to win rather I just wanted Campbell to show he progressed in the off season. Jason just doesn't get it.

Posted by: sjp879 | September 15, 2009 1:03 PM | Report abuse

Zorn does not have faith in his QB because he knows how limited he is. A fighting QB in a losing game would not accept a run play or 3rd and long and the coach wouldn't dare call it. JC is scared and Zorn by extension has been too

Posted by: aypub | September 15, 2009 1:03 PM | Report abuse

The Skins should have signed Jeff Garcia. He has experience in the West Coast offense and give them a whole lot better chance to win than JC.

Posted by: DodgerDog | September 15, 2009 1:04 PM | Report abuse

You are way too conservative "ZORN"

Posted by: pennstate1 | September 15, 2009 1:06 PM | Report abuse

people seem to not understand that jason campbell didnt lose this game. I understand the haters and fact we didnt win but let start 1st half. First drive we had faultered when Zorn wanted to get fancy and Randle EL didnt throw away the football, 2nd are defense didnt step up on 3rd downs Its hard to win football games when it 36 to 22 in time of possession when defense cant get off the field. Our corners need to be looked at more then Campbell. Yeah the had 2 turnovers but where was the pass rush, the tackling and open recievers. Campbell had the same stats as eli with qb rating .1 higher, but more plays into this then campbell who was sacked 4 time to eli 1

Posted by: cjdwolfpack | September 15, 2009 1:16 PM | Report abuse

Bottom line with JC. He has been in how many games for how many years and still to this day has not won a game for the Skins. Not one time has he had the ball with the game on the line, and WON. You give many quarterbacks in the league the ball with 2 minutes to go with a chance to win, they find a way to win. Don't care what his rating is - HE HAS NEVER WON A GAME FOR US. He plays well in some games up until the game is on the line - then he never delivers

Posted by: ScrapGV | September 15, 2009 1:18 PM | Report abuse

Bottom line with JC. He has been in how many games for how many years and still to this day has not won a game for the Skins. Not one time has he had the ball with the game on the line, and WON. You give many quarterbacks in the league the ball with 2 minutes to go with a chance to win, they find a way to win. Don't care what his rating is - HE HAS NEVER WON A GAME FOR US. He plays well in some games up until the game is on the line - then he never delivers

Posted by: ScrapGV | September 15, 2009 1:18 PM | Report abuse

where was orakpo? didn't see him in on a single play. 2 tackles on the stat line, don't remember them. i was expecting far greater impact coming from him...

Posted by: macleod5000 | September 15, 2009 1:29 PM | Report abuse

Campbell might be the least of the Redskins problems. I think they ought to be really concerned about the running game. Ever since the middle of last season it's dissapeared. Guess when the slide started. That's right, in the middle of last season. The focus needs to shift to to Portis and the execution of their running plays. This is really whats killing the offense.

Posted by: richs91 | September 15, 2009 1:38 PM | Report abuse

I am a fan of JC's...my concern is and has been that this "team" plays with NO emotion. It's all business on Sunday and excuses all week. We've got planty of good talent ON PAPER and a lot of good coaches. Yeah, there's is "I" in win, but not in TEAM. Last year back-to-back over Dallas/Philly was huge. That's the team I'm looking for.

Posted by: aginsburg | September 15, 2009 1:46 PM | Report abuse

Campbell declined to provide specifics about what disappointed him most against the Giants, but he stressed "we all have to look at what we did out there and be honest with ourselves. If guys look at it and say they played great, then they're just not being honest. We can all do better - players, coaches, everyone. I'm talking about myself, too. But we've got to be honest at take responsibility. If we do that, we'll be fine."

I definately agree with you on that one....but I'm a little confused because Jason said "we played right there with them" in another quote. Anyway...I like the accountability and honesty about his play...I still think he's not a good NFL qb, but I do respect honesty.

Posted by: kdofour2000 | September 15, 2009 1:47 PM | Report abuse

I like Campbell but he has absolutely no pocket awareness. The problem with the fumble wasn't him holding onto the ball too long but that he didn't step up in the pocket. He did the same thing in the preseason against the Steelers. For some reason he always tends to drift backwards and he never feels anyone coming.

Posted by: fj8152001 | September 15, 2009 1:52 PM | Report abuse

We sure have a lot of crying in Skins Nation these days.

Campbell is OUR QB, Zorn is OUR coach, Haynesworth is OUR million dollar baby and most importantly - the Redskins are OUR team - DEAL WITH IT. Too many unqualified GM's on this board. Give it a break. Do you watch the game with a box of tissues? Because you should!

GO SKINS!

Posted by: JBuss | September 15, 2009 2:38 PM | Report abuse

The problem johntaylor2 is that I don't see the Giants as a "definite Super Bowl contender". They have a good D-line, a veteran O-line and a decent QB. Jacobs is one-dimensional, they have rookie / green WRs and in that game were missing 2 CBs. That game should not have been one to approach squeamishly like the play-calling indicated. There's where the real problem is and that's not something you just fix in one week. Confidence is something you get from your coach and I'm not sure he's capable of doing that right now.

Posted by: vlad21311 | September 15, 2009 2:47 PM | Report abuse

I'm not sure he will but if he does, I hope he takes this to heart. Jason talk is cheap, your talk, the fans talk, the sports writers and anyone else. You want love baby, win, win, win> Redskin fans are loyal, but not automatoms. If we don't like something we will say so. We support you. But we are not you. If you win you'll get praise. If you lose you get criticized. You may not like it but its the nature of your profession. Shut us up with wins. We don't control that you do.

Posted by: my2cars | September 15, 2009 2:56 PM | Report abuse

I have been a redskins fan ever since my grandmother turned on the tv one sunday afternoon. I love the skins and have loved them all my life. I can understand the frustration that most "real fans" have with this team, however, what I can't understand is how this team so easily gets written off after one game. My goodness, how can any keep a level head in this hostile enviornment. We never back our team up through the ups and the downs. Think about it, if you got fired from your job after making one mistake how would you feel. This team will right the ship. I believe in them and I know my real fans believe in them. How in the world can we sit up here on our high horses and say that we deserve better. With the way that some of you are reacting to "one" loss, we don't deserve S*%T!!!!!! Zorn's playcalling will improve, Jason will learn how to step up more in the pocket, Moss will learn to attack the football and blast off the route, and the defense (some players) will learn how to wrap up and tackle. This was a rude awakening to a team that is destined for better. Stay the course Skins!!! We will get it right this week! HAIL!!!!

Posted by: myeldell | September 15, 2009 2:59 PM | Report abuse

I remember years ago when the Redskins were Super Bowl contenders year after year. With a highly combustible ego-maniac midget running the team, does anyone really believe the Skins are going to win with Napoleon running the show?

Posted by: nativedc | September 15, 2009 3:09 PM | Report abuse

Campbell might be the least of the Redskins problems. I think they ought to be really concerned about the running game. Ever since the middle of last season it's dissapeared. Guess when the slide started. That's right, in the middle of last season. The focus needs to shift to to Portis and the execution of their running plays. This is really whats killing the offense.

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I normaly don't post here but this is getting riduculous.

First I love how the JC defenders are now sayith the problem is Portis. I see no problem with Portis , yeah maybe he has lost a step but he is still a top back. He still hits the hole hard(when one is their) and can pass block better then any other back in the league(a wonder why he isn't their on 3rd downs?) . The problem with Portis and this offenses is that they can not get a defense to respect them enough not to stack 8 men in the box. The reason why they can't is JC throws the worst deep ball in the leaugue.

The problem with JC is he is not a good QB, maybe average , but he will never be good. He has two flaws that can never be corrected and we saw both of these flaws on his turnovers.

1) No pocket presence what so ever. On the Osi fumble/TD he had great protection and a solid pocket develope for him to step into. Instead JC sits back, never feels the pressure form Osi, and we all saw what happened next. If JC step ups, like he is supposed to, taht never happens.

2) His windup delivery is just to slow. The NFL game is fast, your WR's are only open for a quick second and the WCO needs a QB that can get rid of the ball quickly. JC with that long slow windup can't. On the play to Moss , Moss was open on the sideline , but JC just couldn't get their quick enough. By the time the defense sees his long exaggerated windup, the CB has time to make a break on the ball. Yeah Maybe Moss should have stepped up, but the point is, if he had even a average release time, their would be no need for Moss to make a play.

These are two of JC biggest flaws and could not be corrected. He is not the future QB of this team and needs to go after this season.

Posted by: thegreatgrexican | September 15, 2009 3:25 PM | Report abuse

JC is a good guy but he hasn't improved that much from last year. One game was enough to see that the same basic mistakes are being made. Its not a loyalty thing or overreacting after a loss. This is not a matter of faith but an issue of evidence. It is JC who has to prove he is worthy of being a franchise qb.

Posted by: SKINSPR | September 15, 2009 3:29 PM | Report abuse

johntaylor2

These posters overreact either way. Had the skins beat the giants fans would be predicting 7-0 and winning the division after week one. They are already counting the next 5 games as wins. Realistically in the NFL you can only look at one game at a time. The skins look at the Rams, skins fans are already 5 games into the season.

Posted by: ged0386 | September 15, 2009 3:30 PM | Report abuse

Blah, blah, blah. Saying the right thing isn't going to get it done. This team lacks vision, professionalism and heart.

Posted by: peterandmeredith | September 15, 2009 11:13 AM | Report abuse

How do they lack professionalism? that's the one thing they don't lack. They're all gentleman, maybe that's the problem. But don't say they lack professionalism, you're ridiculous.

Posted by: mwalk1 | September 15, 2009 3:31 PM | Report abuse

But it's just Game 1. Long ways to go... unless we lose to the Rams, then I call DirecTv and cancel my NFL package.

Posted by: jgarrisn |

This poster is the perfect example of a typical redskins fan that post on these blogs. Its only week one if they lose in week 2, then I am giving up on them. But then if they win 4 straight and be 4-2, I am getting my NFL package back. But then if they lose to Dallas, I canceling it again. But if they win 3 in a row again they would be 7-3 and I am calling direct TV back!! How about being a fan, regardless. One thing I can say about the skins that I cant say about skins fans is the team does not give up. The team has way more heart than its fans.

Posted by: ged0386 | September 15, 2009 3:37 PM | Report abuse

This is a 7-9 caliber team. Just accept it. Jason Campbell never has been and never will be a great, or even good, NHL quarterback. He's simply ok. How many seasons will the Skins waste (and Campbell apologists) before they realize that? This season is already done.

Posted by: bigeugene

Lets replace him with colt. Oh, thats right. He is no longer the fan favorite.

Posted by: ged0386 | September 15, 2009 3:39 PM | Report abuse

Right now JC (with his productivity or lack thereof) is not the biggest issue facing the Redskins, it is the pitiful defense they have shown on third down. Until that is fixed, JC could throw for 300 yards a game and it won't matter. JC is an average quarterback in this league (As is Jay Cutler - see 4 int's)right now and fans need to stop trying to compare him to the elite or above average QBs. If the defense can hold their end of the bargain and get themselves off the field on third downs, then the offense will have more possessions and have an opportunity to establish a consistent running game which can make the passing game better (especially for the young receivers who need to learn how to create separation from DBs). Also, the zone defense the Skins played in that game and during the preseason has been terrible. Opposing quarterbacks have huge windows to throw into (and receivers have free rein in the secondary) as CBs are not being aggressive enough at the line (Hall) and when they are they are not effectively passing them off to the second level LBs or DBs(limited synchronization there). The team could finish 10-6 or 6-10 based on their defense (zone has been like Charmin) no matter how well the offense plays.

Posted by: dabwilldo40 | September 15, 2009 3:46 PM | Report abuse

Right now JC (with his productivity or lack thereof) is not the biggest issue facing the Redskins, it is the pitiful defense they have shown on third down. Until that is fixed, JC could throw for 300 yards a game and it won't matter. JC is an average quarterback in this league (As is Jay Cutler - see 4 int's)right now and fans need to stop trying to compare him to the elite or above average QBs. If the defense can hold their end of the bargain and get themselves off the field on third downs, then the offense will have more possessions and have an opportunity to establish a consistent running game which can make the passing game better (especially for the young receivers who need to learn how to create separation from DBs). Also, the zone defense the Skins played in that game and during the preseason has been terrible. Opposing quarterbacks have huge windows to throw into (and receivers have free rein in the secondary) as CBs are not being aggressive enough at the line (Hall) and when they are they are not effectively passing them off to the second level LBs or DBs(limited synchronization there). The team could finish 10-6 or 6-10 based on their defense (zone has been like Charmin) no matter how well the offense plays.

Posted by: dabwilldo40 | September 15, 2009 3:46 PM | Report abuse

Are the Redskins still suing little old ladies who can't afford their season tickets? What happened to that case anyway?

Posted by: logcabin1836 | September 15, 2009 3:47 PM | Report abuse

The DEADskins are now running a 0-51 point deficit in the FIRST QTR's of the last 7 games .....

What the he11 are ZORN and the offensive "braintrust" doing in the game planning room.... the week before every game.....?

The moment Campbell takes the field for the first possession, the yell of "3 and OUT" can be heard in every household throughout the Mid Atlantic states that are not drunk with koolade....

Posted by: unc1dmo | September 15, 2009 4:14 PM | Report abuse

wash. d-linemen did NOT put enough pressure on the giants and manning the one sack they had and fumble recovery after the qb took a hit(I see the eagles do that regularly to the giants forcing turnovers)and maybe 2-3 other times was about it as far as pressuring the qb was concerned. daniels is too slow to play DE he should play tackle only, bring back DE r. johnson from the practice squad release DE wynn,activate moore this week and sit down smoot or hall. I have seen campbell step up in the pocket many times why on that play he didnt is beyond me.

Posted by: wathu19 | September 15, 2009 4:16 PM | Report abuse

I like the post of asking why be a hater... have some optimism... Have you ever heard of the boy who cried wolf ???? No translate that into the Skins. Every year we hear how talented this team is... whow improved things are but when it counts we see and hear the same things, year in and year out! Soon, people don't care and your thoughts instantly become negative. The offense runs the same 6 plays.... our prevent defense from the word go stops nobody. Reason why are Defense was ranked 4th or 6th ??? Because the other teams offense always had the ball on our side of the field !!!!! If you do not create TO or sacks or even wreak havoc.... your not that good. To the defense of Campbell.. statistically, he had a 95 passer rating.... unfortunately, Two plays over shadow that.

Posted by: rvanags | September 15, 2009 5:03 PM | Report abuse

I was at the game and yes it was disappointing, but all the negative talk after one game against a very good team is just plan stupid.

Campbell knows what he has to improve on.

In my opinion the focus should be on the poor tackling by several of the defensive players. Tha 32 yard TD was a joke. At best it was a 3-4 yard completion, and they try a fied goal.

D Hall better step up . He was horrible.

Posted by: martinem | September 15, 2009 5:14 PM | Report abuse

Skins fans have become a bunch of whiney yuppie punks who probably prefer wine over beer during game time. Gets some balls skins fans and stick with your team for gods sakes!! You bail after one game for crying out loud!!

Posted by: ged0386 | September 15, 2009 5:21 PM | Report abuse

You people have donald trump syndrome. Your fired is your favorite answer to every problem. To skins fans, if you aren't already great from day one then you should be replaced by day two. Meanwhile how many of you were great at what you do for a living from day one? Some of you still aren't any good at what you do yet you still have your jobs.

Posted by: ged0386 | September 15, 2009 5:25 PM | Report abuse

No way in the world will a west coast offense EVER work in the NFC East! There is only one team that ran the west coast offense that could beat the Giants and that was the 49ers of the 80`s! The Redskins will never be in the same class as the Giants as long as they keep trying to shove the west coast offense down our throats! Now they want to count on an easy schedule to start winning? I say Bullsh#t ,If you cannot win in your division agianst a good team like the Giants , dont count on winning with an easy schedule! Like last year it will not happen! I also would like to know why is GREG BLACHE being out coached by KEVIN GILBRIDE or any other off. coordinater for that matter? I thought he was such a good coach? Why does he not study and anticipate what the other team is going to do? What ever happen to halftime ADJUSTMENTS!!!!!!

Posted by: vexed50verizonnet | September 15, 2009 5:32 PM | Report abuse

I agree with D Hall to step it up. All he needed to do was push the WR out of bounds and there is no TD. Also true skins fans will stick with their team. At least the Skins have some hope. Look where they stand after week six.

Posted by: DCLASKINS26 | September 15, 2009 5:34 PM | Report abuse

Blah, blah, blah. Saying the right thing isn't going to get it done. This team lacks vision, professionalism and heart.

Posted by: peterandmeredith


And so does its fans. You are a prime example. No heart. Bail on them after ever loss, back on the bandwagon after a couple of wins, then bail again if they lose.

Posted by: ged0386 | September 15, 2009 5:43 PM | Report abuse

Everyone is talking about that one fumble but how about that fumbled snap. It hit him right in the hands.. If the OL didn't do a great job it would have been a sack maybe a turnover. Instead he pitched it to a running back standing next to him who ran for 23 yards. Campbell longest completion of the day was a broken play were he tossed the ball about a foot.. Well it helped his QB rating.. but it was nothing but pure luck...

Posted by: sovine08 | September 15, 2009 5:49 PM | Report abuse

Almost 20 years since the Redskins have won anything!Dont tell me not to get down on this team after just one game!! I love the REDSKINS, but they SUCK!!!!!!

Posted by: vexed50verizonnet | September 15, 2009 6:02 PM | Report abuse

It was the first game people, why are people so up in arms about a game the skins weren't supposed to win anyway. The skin will make the playoff and all this will be forgotten

Posted by: gentlestep | September 15, 2009 6:19 PM | Report abuse

It was the first game people, why are people so up in arms about a game the skins weren't supposed to win anyway. The skin will make the playoff and all this will be forgotten

Posted by: gentlestep | September 15, 2009 6:19 PM | Report abuse

"Campbell held the ball too long in the pocket"

not true, was not in the pocket because the moron doesnt know where that is

Posted by: BMACattack | September 15, 2009 6:22 PM | Report abuse

im tired of his poor performance, yes is only one game, but i feel that he has an excuse for every bad performance. Last year he stated that if he's not starting he would want to get traded. DO SOMETHINg

Posted by: jonathanchu76 | September 15, 2009 7:20 PM | Report abuse

COACH ZORN...PLEASE!!! PLEASE PUT CAMPBELL IN A SHOTGUN FORMATION WHEN PASSING. THE GUY HAVING SUCCESS IN THAT FORMATION. IF YOU PUT CAMPBELL IN A FORMATION THAT MAKES HIM FEEL LIKE HE HAS MORE TIME TO THROW YOU WILL GET RESULTS.

Posted by: taylormade218 | September 15, 2009 7:21 PM | Report abuse

why have the skins not been able to replace Mann, Manly, Butz and Grant? Remember those guys? Remember QB's literally running for their lives, or constantly looking over their shoulder because they were scared out of their minds? That was a long ass time ago and we have not had anything close to that kind of domimant front four since. WHY?? I just don't get it..you have to win the battle in the trenches, otherwise even the best cornerbacks will get repeatedly burned.

Posted by: ralston21 | September 15, 2009 7:24 PM | Report abuse

"Also, comparing Campbell's passer rating to Eli's is extremely misleading.
Take away the garbage Campbell picked up in the last 2 mins of the game and let me know what his passer rating is?"

Did you see Tom Brady last night? Take away his last few minutes and what kind of game did he have? U-G-L-Y he didn't have any alibi.

Personally, I like the fact that our QB's last few minutes looked a heckuva lot like Tom Brady's last few minutes. Long drive ending in a score.

I call it a plus that you can lead a drive ending with a score with almost no time on the clock to keep your team in the game. That's the MONEY drive. And for all that folks criticize Campbell, that's one thing he undeniably shares with some really good qbs. He's a fourth quarter clutch guy when he's not running for his life.

The only difference between our game and the Pats game? The Pats got a lucky turnover after their long drive for a score. We didn't.

The ball just bounced their way. But Brady threw a pik 6 to a defensive end to put his team in a hole early on, same as Jason's fumble for 6 to Umenyioura.

Maybe we should look at what Jason has IN COMMON with winning qb's some of the time.

Posted by: 20yrskinfan | September 15, 2009 7:31 PM | Report abuse

im tired of his poor performance, yes is only one game, but i feel that he has an excuse for every bad performance. Last year he stated that if he's not starting he would want to get traded. DO SOMETHINg

Posted by: jonathanchu76


NO SOUP FOR YOU!

Posted by: Spanglerg | September 15, 2009 7:57 PM | Report abuse

oh no! someone just compared Campbell to Tom Brady. I just puked on my keyboard, thank you for that!

Posted by: ralston21 | September 15, 2009 8:02 PM | Report abuse

dang.. I hate these stat talkers..
Jason had 4 worthless passes completed before the 1st down marker. Then he had 5 completions that meant nothing, in the last drive (last 90 seconds of the game). The Gints were giving away yardage at that point. It was a two score game and they just wanted to run out the clock. The Gints left the middle wide open and thus the worthless TD by the Skins. But that TD will be in Jason's stats!!! argh
When the game mattered, Jason played like a backup QB.
++++++++++++++++++++
JC had a better QB rating than Eli. He was not our biggest problem. He made TWO bad plays. One, Moss could have prevented. The other, Osi made a great play.

If youre going to bench JC, you better bench Landry and Hall for having as many or more bad plays. Bench Sherm Smith for awful playcalling. Bench CP for not having the wheels anymore.

We will right the ship.

Posted by: Rypien11 | September 15, 2009 11:10 AM

Posted by: SkinsneedaGM | September 15, 2009 8:04 PM | Report abuse

if y'all want to blame this on just one man, blame it on Snyder, not Campbell. This is his third year with a terrible o-line, what do you expect? I'm sure all you haters could do better. If Campbell goes to another team, he will almost certainly come back and beat the Skins. Gotta love how Snyder continually sets up his team for failure. He didn't even look for o-line improvements in the off season, but he tries to replace the QB. It doesn't matter who you put back there when the o-line is terrible. Snyder should just stick to suing the fans and selling out the franchise, let the football people mess up the football team.

Posted by: ZeroHero0 | September 15, 2009 8:04 PM | Report abuse

How do you think I feel? I live in San Antonio, Texas but grew up in Rockville, Maryland. I have been catching h e double hockey sticks from these frigging Cowboy fans for eight years now. Jim Zorn please release me from my agony and abuse and have a winning season so I can get some REVENGE!

Posted by: SKINSFAN13 | September 15, 2009 8:21 PM | Report abuse

It was the giants, a solid superbowl contender and they have probably the best Dline in the league and one of the best overall defenses. We played terribly and they played a very good game, and we still managed to hang around with them. Jesus some of you need to refill your valium prescription.

Posted by: bogardp | September 15, 2009 8:26 PM | Report abuse

Let's face it; optimist or pessimist, we're not goint to the playoffs, much less superbowl, this season once again. I don't see anything changing till we get a new owner. The skins could clearly be a great team, but the reality is they kinda suck.

Posted by: pbonta1 | September 15, 2009 8:35 PM | Report abuse

You can be a fan ( which I am of course ) and still express negativity. It's called concern. Let's face the music: the offense has more problems and holes than swiss cheese. The O line is old, and PREDICTABLE. There is nothing new in what they do now over what they did last year. Buges is a great motivator but you have to teach technique. I think the D-coordinators around the NFC have his number. The film rooms around the league look upon our offense as a mirror of last year. That mirror cracked about halfway through last year didn't it? Just ask Coughlin. With a few of the numbers on the backs of our few players now changed ( James Thrash now gone for instance ) otherwise same old same old. ( I think Cooley said this in an inteview this week...) Zorn knows this, otherwise why would he pull out some trick play ( stupid ) that was supposed to spark the offense? I amfraid Mr. Zorn has fewer ideas on how to run AN OFFENSE than the coach at W & L. Maybe he just has few options. And by the way, Campbell is NOT the reincarnation of Doug Williams, and that is not necessarily a bad thing anyway. Doug was immobile but so is Jason. Doug had a better long ball. Jason gets stripped before the recievers get deep...can't move his feet or get out of the way of defensive ends. ( How about some AWARENESS in and of the pocket? )Without someone like Cam Cameron to build this guy up, it could take years. With a week O-Line we need a quarterback that can EXTEND the play, is MOBILE, and stout enough to take a hit when he runs ( he should be a THREAT to run even if he rarely does it for example McNabb). IMHO Zorn ain't the answer at least for this quarterback, this team, with these coaches, this owner and these players. A nice guy a bad fit. And it will be interesting to see who Snyder and Cerrato wine and dine at the end of the season, if they are not already doing it. Maybe Pepper Rodgers can help them out in the decision making process....LOL.

Posted by: Blueslegend | September 15, 2009 9:15 PM | Report abuse

You can be a fan ( which I am of course ) and still express negativity. It's called concern. Let's face the music: the offense has more problems and holes than swiss cheese. The O line is old, and PREDICTABLE. There is nothing new in what they do now over what they did last year. Buges is a great motivator but you have to teach technique. I think the D-coordinators around the NFC have his number. The film rooms around the league look upon our offense as a mirror of last year. That mirror cracked about halfway through last year didn't it? Just ask Coughlin. With a few of the numbers on the backs of our few players now changed ( James Thrash now gone for instance ) otherwise same old same old. ( I think Cooley said this in an inteview this week...) Zorn knows this, otherwise why would he pull out some trick play ( stupid ) that was supposed to spark the offense? I amfraid Mr. Zorn has fewer ideas on how to run AN OFFENSE than the coach at W & L. Maybe he just has few options. And by the way, Campbell is NOT the reincarnation of Doug Williams, and that is not necessarily a bad thing anyway. Doug was immobile but so is Jason. Doug had a better long ball. Jason gets stripped before the recievers get deep...can't move his feet or get out of the way of defensive ends. ( How about some AWARENESS in and of the pocket? )Without someone like Cam Cameron to build this guy up, it could take years. With a week O-Line we need a quarterback that can EXTEND the play, is MOBILE, and stout enough to take a hit when he runs ( he should be a THREAT to run even if he rarely does it for example McNabb). IMHO Zorn ain't the answer at least for this quarterback, this team, with these coaches, this owner and these players. A nice guy a bad fit. And it will be interesting to see who Snyder and Cerrato wine and dine at the end of the season, if they are not already doing it. Maybe Pepper Rodgers can help them out in the decision making process....LOL.

Posted by: Blueslegend | September 15, 2009 9:17 PM | Report abuse

oh no! someone just compared Campbell to Tom Brady. I just puked on my keyboard, thank you for that!

Posted by: ralston21 | September 15, 2009 8:02 PM | Report abuse
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Yup.

Both had pretty crappy games all around until the last 5 minutes. Both gave the ball away for 6 points to put their teams in a hole. Both led a late drive for a score to keep their teams in the game. Both touchdowns, after a long drive, were over the middle 18-25 yard passes splitting the soft zones of the defenses.

I'm comparing the games that they played - pretty similar dont'cha think? Glad you took the bait. No Pats fans were calling for Brady's head even though he played a crappy game. (With a better Moss and a better o-line...and I'd take Welker over Randle El too).

Sometimes the truth can make you puke. You should watch more football than just one game a weekend. You'll see a lot more and probably be a little less queasy.

Posted by: 20yrskinfan | September 15, 2009 9:22 PM | Report abuse

CAMPBELL IS DUNSKI...he looked so scared in the pocket, which he technically wasn't in, which is why 72 forced a fumble, which was then returned for a touchdown, which was right after he threw an interception where he wasn't even behind the line of scrimmage, which is technically an illegal throw, which is what his highlights were in the first game of the season, which was eerily similar to the same crappy game he had last year in which i conclude...CAMPBELL IS DUNSKI.

Posted by: BMACattack | September 15, 2009 9:40 PM | Report abuse

Stick a fork in them, their done.Next year Zorn and Campbell are gone.Danny the ultimate responsibility starts at the top. Washington deserves better.I've been a skins fan for 50 years and we have hit bottom. We need a new coach,quarterback and a good GM Wake up a smell what their shoveling, we stink.

Posted by: chulaivet65 | September 15, 2009 10:07 PM | Report abuse

zardsfan1 said "Rypien11: Sherm Smith is not the play caller. It's that guy with the spikey hair holding the play sheet. I think his name is Jim Zorn.

"Second of all, the problem with Campbell's fumble was not that he held the ball too long, it was that he failed to slide forward into the pocket, which was created by his o-line..."

i agree wholeheartedly that he should have stepped up. i'm willing to give him a 1-game pass... maybe he's become so used to the pocket breaking down in front of him that he didn't trust it. he'll man up this week.

Posted by: dcjazzman | September 15, 2009 10:07 PM | Report abuse

If the Redskins lose to or squeak by the Rams, I will consider the season lost. If they win, it would have to be at least a two touchdown victory for me to hold out the slightest hope for a good season. Anything less than that at this point in the season would prove that the Redskins are just not there yet. The Rams are horrible. There's no reason why the 'Skins should'nt pound them.

Posted by: conservativemaverick | September 15, 2009 10:08 PM | Report abuse

Collins. Now. If he plays bad, he's out. Last time he went undefeated. Give him the chance. He earned it.

Posted by: kls1 | September 15, 2009 10:26 PM | Report abuse

We are a team that went to the superbowl with Mark Rypien at quarteback, big arm, no wheels. Jason seems like the same kind of quarteback with slightly better mobility. Why are we not keeping more guys in to block like we did back then. Why not coach to are players strenghts, instaed of trying to mold them into a system they meay not be suited for. I don't feel Jason is the problem. Why does Zorn keep saying the option( second play sunday) was a good call, when it was covered, and resulted in lost yards. The play calling in the redzone was sad, wide reciever screen, handoff; about throw something into the endzone. and where is Marko Mithchell, if Devon Thomas had Marko's preseason, they would be raving, this guy has earned a shot. Lets play the guys that are hungry AND WANT TO PRACTICE. Canj't wait for Cowher next year.

Posted by: antho77420 | September 15, 2009 10:31 PM | Report abuse

does the nfl measure and keep stats for 'windup time?' what is the median or average release time for 'all pro,' top-tier, average and less than average qb's (based on yardage and tds per x-number of passes)? how abt timing the various different 'spots' that each qb starts from? question: aren't windups like golf swings? strictly individual? or is there a norm? in any event, if this stat is NOT being monitored, i'm petitioning the post to hire ME to track this stat. i think it would be just peachy if the post hired me to keep track and publish this stat on a weekly basis.

Posted by: dcjazzman | September 15, 2009 10:52 PM | Report abuse

I don't hate any of the players. But yes, I have given up on this team. Players will be the first to tell you, as Campbell does above -- "just do your job and don't worry about what anyone else is doing." Interesting team concept....

Anyway, the players didn't choose themselves, or assemble to coaching staff, or pick the system etc. That's all on Dan Snyder and Vincent Cerrato. I do not care for either of those two and they are the reason I gave up on this team a long time ago.

Posted by: Pepper5 | September 15, 2009 11:16 PM | Report abuse

Do I Have to make this point time-after-time? Fact is, Jason Campbell's stats BEFORE THE MEANINGLESS DRIVE at the end of the game were as follows:

143 yards, 1 INT, 1 Fumble (returned for TD), 61.2 QB rating - WHEN THE GAME MATTERED!

When will the Post's MORONIC writers and Campbell supporters STOP pointing to his padded stats and padded QB rating, both of which benefit from yardage gained in GARBAGE TIME?!?!

Posted by: jsmith33351 | September 15, 2009 11:27 PM | Report abuse

jsmith33351: So you are saying that because we didn't get the onside kick, the last drive didn't matter? really?

So would you have rather had Jay Cutler, because he threw 4 INTs on Sunday and the Bears only scored 15 points in a loss to the friggin Packers. Even if you excuse his 4 picks, he would have still had a worse completion percentage than JC.

When you are only down by two scores its not garbage minutes.

Posted by: ProfessorWrightBSU | September 16, 2009 12:05 AM | Report abuse

You think that if we're sitting at 4-4 or 3-5, pulling Campbell for Todd is going to save our season, given our 2nd half schedule?

JC had a better QB rating than Eli. He was not our biggest problem. He made TWO bad plays. One, Moss could have prevented. The other, Osi made a great play.

If youre going to bench JC, you better bench Landry and Hall for having as many or more bad plays. Bench Sherm Smith for awful playcalling. Bench CP for not having the wheels anymore.

We will right the ship.

Posted by Rypen11

Are you kidding? The only reason Campbell had the rating he did, is that he was able to pad his stats in the final minutes of the game. The Giants had the game locked down and played zone, up until that point his rating was only around 72%. Numbers don't tell what really happened on the field.

Posted by: Hail2TheSquire | September 16, 2009 12:21 AM | Report abuse

I don't hate any of the players. But yes, I have given up on this team. Players will be the first to tell you, as Campbell does above -- "just do your job and don't worry about what anyone else is doing." Interesting team concept....

Anyway, the players didn't choose themselves, or assemble to coaching staff, or pick the system etc. That's all on Dan Snyder and Vincent Cerrato. I do not care for either of those two and they are the reason I gave up on this team a long time ago.

Posted by: Pepper5 | September 15, 2009 11:16 PM

Listen buddy, i've been with the 'skins for the last 17 years and since their last win in superbowl xxvi, they have not had a season you could truly say was a winning season. but if you're a true fan, and i hope you are, you'll remember that they started their '83 season wiht a loss to dem cowboys but went on to win the next 14 games before losing their last game of the regular season. That team went on to the super bowl. So let's keep rooting for the home team. if anyone deserves to have his ass kicked, it has to be danny the mouth who thinks he's coach, gm and owner all rolled into one.

Posted by: eddypotomac | September 16, 2009 12:21 AM | Report abuse

Sometimes I feel like I'm watching a different game then others. I didn't think Campbell played any worse or better than Eli Manning. He definitely made mistakes BUT even with his mistakes we could and should have won. The big problem was trying to run again and again against the best defensive line in the NFL. This stupid play calling is even more moronic when you know going in that the gints cornerbacks are out for the game. When we did pass the ball in the middle of the field we had success. Glad to see ARE in the slot and see 47 do what he does. I'm still supporting Campbell (for now!) BUT I'M MOS DEF OFF THE ZORN TRAIN. Zorn gives me no confidence that he knows what he is doing.

Posted by: redlotparty | September 16, 2009 12:49 AM | Report abuse

put up. or shut up. end of story.

Posted by: terpcentral1 | September 16, 2009 1:21 AM | Report abuse

"No Pats fans were calling for Brady's head even though he played a crappy game."

Didn't Brady throw for almost 40 completions and 400 yards including the two 4th quarter game winning TD's?

Geeze... and here I was thinking Campbell played crappy...

Posted by: hender_22 | September 16, 2009 2:18 AM | Report abuse

It's sad that as armchair quarterbacks, some of us fans don't look at the big picture. Can we really blame Jason everytime we lose? Hardly. When you consider that Portis is being asked to constantly run to the left and get tackled in the backfield, who's to blame there? To me I see a lack of confidence with how Heyer is maintaining his blocking schemes. How about the fact that Chris Samuel (who somehow always gets a Pro Bowl vote) tends to struggle against quicker pass rushers? To some degree, he allowed Ueminyora to get by him to strip Jason of the ball. If the O-Line can't open holes for Portise, how well do you think they can protect their own qb? Sure, Jason should've felt the pressure but he's trying to stay in the pocket. Of course, we'd all like to see him tuck and run but he didn't do horrible in the game. And let's not forget about the highly touted defense. How that we have Hayneworth, we can't even see him work his magic because by the time he gets to the qb, the ball has already been thrown. Perhaps if Blache abandons the "Bend But Don't Break" philosophy and demands the corners to press at the line of scrimmage, maybe our D-Line can look as dominant as any other team like the Steelers or the Giants. Just look at all the cushion our corners give..I'd swear they work in a furniture store! Had Fred Smoot jammed Manningham, that TD would've never occured. You can believe our defense will struggle getting to Matt Stafford simply because our corners will give him time to throw the ball with all the cushion. Marc Bulger will pick the corners apart just like he did last season when we lost to the "winless" Rams. How embarrassing. Through all this, it was only one game. Let's stop flushing the season down the drain and start acting like real fuggin fans. I'd expect the negativity from Cowboy fans because after only one win, they're calling for the Super Bowl already. We lost to a real defensive team. Let's enjoy when the Cowboys lose to them as well.

Posted by: charronegro1971 | September 16, 2009 4:11 AM | Report abuse

The fans need to relax a little bit. Everybody is so negative on the team and key character after only 1 game. If that is all you can stomach as a fan, I think that New England would be a better place for your soft hearted allegiance.

Posted by: gallegos32 | September 16, 2009 5:52 AM | Report abuse

gotta have "big boy" mentality to fulfill "big boy" dreams. when you play with fear, teams sniff that like bacon and eggs cooking in the morning. the 'skins have no focus and it shows. you want to be a champion, you have to give 100% effort for 4 quarters. stop falling victim to goofball antics and play the game smart. i've been waiting for this for so long and i can't help but wonder if during training camp and seeing how "light hearted" and "easygoing" the players made it seem will be the outcome of this season. Hey Zorn!! This isn't a Broadway production. Hey Campbell!! Stop acting like a little girl who just skinned her knee.

Posted by: KNNTHMORRIS | September 16, 2009 6:16 AM | Report abuse

My god, he sounded like Joe Gibbs, trying to put a positive spin on a dismal performance. Yes they should be honest and take responsibility AND realize that if they played the Giants tomorrow that the same thing would probably happen. That's the sad part.

Posted by: keedrow | September 16, 2009 6:57 AM | Report abuse

I am a die hard Skins fan.I am out the country and was not able to see the game against the Giants.I won't see my first game until 10/04/2009.We will be 2/1 by then.For you people that are Skins fans sometimes,either be a Skins fan or not at all.There are 15 more games this season,so we lost,get over it.Things will get better from this point on.From what I have read from the players and I believe they know why they lost the season opener and are disappointed at the way they lost.They will crush the Rams in the Home Opener,mark my words and past this on to the Hater:Wilbon!!

Posted by: joeyjust4u2 | September 16, 2009 7:20 AM | Report abuse

Jason Campbell needs to be able to connect with his receivers on the long ball. Everytime he reachs back to heave a long one, all I anticipate is an imcompletion, and I am never disappointed. He's got arm strength, but that is all I can say positive about his long throws. Arm strength means nothing if there are no completions.

Posted by: DrWho2 | September 16, 2009 8:43 AM | Report abuse

Who was the last good quarterback Washington had? Brad Johnson for a year?? Ten years ago at that. One constant is the team.
I would like to know why Campbell gets judged so harshly. I admit he his average at best right now but you can win with that. Be honest and admit that there are other fundamental problems with the organization.

Posted by: millineumman | September 16, 2009 8:48 AM | Report abuse

When is the last time the Redskins defense scored a touchdown?

Posted by: clandestinetomcat | September 16, 2009 8:55 AM | Report abuse

Jason needs to stop concerning himself so much with what people are saying about him. That within itself is added pressure he does not need at this time.

Jason as the QB has to lead by example and make the kind of decisions that capture the respect of his teammates, Two bad decisions in Sundays' game were critical.

Posted by: MHEDRLT | September 16, 2009 9:11 AM | Report abuse

Look around at the NFC East and compare to the Skins. What do they have/do that we dont? They have playmakers and make plays and they know how to move the chains.
Cowboys - Tampa game they exploited blown coverages and got long touchdown plays. When is the last time you saw a blown coverage by a defense the Redskins play and the Skins take advantage of it for a long TD?
Eagles - They play solid D and have playmakers on offense (Westbrook never seems to have a BAD game and more often has great games).
Giants - They play outstanding D and make plays on D (fumble return for TD) and know how to wear you down with their ball-control offense.

The SKINS have NONE of these.

Campbell - When is the last time he had a 300 yard game?
Moss - He gives up on too many balls and lacks sure hands. He's inconsistent.
Portis - A quick back would have taken that first run to the house. Portis is OLD and SLOW.
O-Line - Pass protection wasn't that bad, but they can't run/pass block effective consistently.
Defense - Solid most of the time, but when they blitz, do they ever fool anybody? They line all their guys up on the line of scrimmage and say "here we come". They never disguise blitzes. Hence, they don't ever seem to get to the QB on blitzes either.

All the talk, chip on the shoulder, feel good articles don't make a good team. They just make fans "feel" better. Bottom line is Skins don't have the players and don't have the coaches to compete with their NFC East counterparts. PERIOD.

Posted by: bamaboy1 | September 16, 2009 10:04 AM | Report abuse

You think that if we're sitting at 4-4 or 3-5, pulling Campbell for Todd is going to save our season, given our 2nd half schedule?
Posted by Rypen11
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Why am I guessing back in 2007 when the Skins were 5-7, after losing the last 4 games you were also making excuses for Campbell then? And I'm guessing you weren't thinking we should bench Campbell and put in Collins to save the season back then either. Well Campbell wasn't benched but he was hurt Collins came in won the next 4 games (including the NY Giants in NY) with a 106 QB rating (second highest to Tom Brady) and was named NFC Offensive player of the Month)getting the Skins in the playoffs thereby saving the season. And yeah i know it was Saunders system.. but back then Gibbs didn't think that made a difference otherwise he would have bench Campbell sooner.. no? Bottomline Collins has never had a shot since that time.. why not consider giving him another one this season??? You never know.

Posted by: sovine08 | September 16, 2009 10:11 AM | Report abuse

Folks,

Let's all stay "MEDIUM". Which is translated into 8-8 seasons-In the middle of the pack. That is Coach Zorn's philosophy. No. Our QB is medium and so are our coaches...If that is what u strive for than this is what you should be satisfied with..So please stay "MEDIUM".

On a different note, I think there is a communication problem with our secondary/lineman/coaches. Because the only way a CB gives WR 10 yards cushion is if he doesn't know that we are going to bring additional pressure via blitz...So CBs always change the cushion as to not give away what the defense is about to do...Our CB just do the same cushion evertime and I think it is because they don't know what the DL and LB are doing...otherwise, they would definitely get closer to receivers knowing that the QB will have 2-3 seconds to get rid of the ball...

We have a coach who has never won any championships, as a QB, QB coach, so basically has had a "MEDIUM" career so why should we expect anything better than "MEDIUM"...we can all help ourselves by having "medium" expectation. Even DSnyder is "Medium" height and built...so why not just go along and be "MEDIUM" fans...c'mon folks who needs greatness and excellence and high expectations...NOT us Redskins fans...

Posted by: chakboy | September 16, 2009 10:21 AM | Report abuse

I'm comparing the games that they played - pretty similar dont'cha think? Glad you took the bait. No Pats fans were calling for Brady's head even though he played a crappy game. (With a better Moss and a better o-line...and I'd take Welker over Randle El too).
Posted by: 20yrskinfan
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You mean no fans were calling for Brady's head.. a guy who has taken the Pats to 4 Super Bowls winning 3 of them. And he won the last game throwing 2 TD passes??? Ummm Brady is like Campbell how again??? Look here's some news IF Campbell had won 3 Super Bowls yet he had a bad game Sunday no one would be calling for his head either.. It's just that Campbell hasn't won ANYTHING!!!

Posted by: sovine08 | September 16, 2009 10:23 AM | Report abuse

I'm so damn sick of Jason Campbell. Step up in the pocket make your throws, get away from pressure, be a leader! Stop sitting there with your mouth open and stop talking about patience. Games are played each week and you take them one at a time. Go out there and compete and win! I'm so sick of hearing about this guy, he needs to win or go. Period!

Posted by: jrbell84 | September 16, 2009 10:32 AM | Report abuse

As a fan you take the good with the bad.As I wish that the Skins had beat the Giants, it's on to the next game. Short term memory. Get Behind J Campbell and the rest of this team. Thats whats needed. I am and will forever be a REDSKINS FAN

Posted by: DCN8TVE | September 16, 2009 10:32 AM | Report abuse

Skins need a smarter qB. Aging O-Line is healthy for now. Portis is blocking. Holding the ball too long means lack of brainpower. Better go on a losing streak so we can draft the next Matt Ryan.

Posted by: jercha | September 16, 2009 10:34 AM | Report abuse

JC is the problem. Period!! Plenty of time from the O-line. Plenty of open recievers. Decent defense backing them up (not aggressive enough however) No skins fans, it IS JC at QB slowing down and killing our offense PERIOD. He is sooooo slow and lanky, like a giant praying mantis holding the ball out there forever. He looks totally lost, do you see that look in his eyes coming out of the huddle?? How about that 1, ONE!!! long pass, or should I say blind chuck the ball 70 yeads and see where it comes down? Not even close to Moss, I dont think he even knew where Moss was going to. How about the nice check audible to a hand off on the blantant fake blitz? How about the way off mark, behind the reciever throws. OR lets run 3 or 4 yards past the line of scrimmage then trow an INT? Give him all the excuses in the world about the system and new coaches and new offenses BS... I say again BS!! He has limited, at best, skills as a QB and should not be in the Pro's. Let me ask a question, why did Zorn keep calling running plays??? Because he knows JC can not hit the side of a barn more than 10 yards away. JC SUCKS!! Let me say again JC SUCKS. He is our biggest problems.

Posted by: MikeOFW | September 16, 2009 10:53 AM | Report abuse

The entire Skins organization needs to understand the reason for our concern. Parcells said correctly, "a team IS as bad as its record." What I saw Sunday was more of the same old ways. It doesn't matter how much we spend on free agents, who coaches, or where we play. We will still be inept on offense, commit untimely mistakes and play without passion. Compare Campbell's performance Sunday with Brady's. That's a lesson in leadership! Brady stunk it up for three quarters, and then found a way to win. Campbell was bemoaning the fact that they played a good team. So, are the fans to only expect quality when we play sub-par teams? Look at last year's results. It was the sub-par teams that kept us out of the playoffs--Again! We have every reason to be impatient. Until we see a change. A little swagger, and a lot more effot coming from the Skins we have every right to show our impatience!

Posted by: stevesuders | September 16, 2009 10:59 AM | Report abuse

I have defended Campbell and been "patient" for going on five years. He still looks confused, can't get rid of the ball and makes stupid mistakes. Against the Giants, either he had no open receivers or is not mentaly capable of being a pro quarterback which requies quick decision making!

I hope I am wrong and Cambell makes me eat some crow but I doubt it? If he struggles against the lambs it's time to give Collins a shot before the whole season goes down the toilet!

Posted by: donmac1 | September 16, 2009 11:15 AM | Report abuse

Like it or not,fans,"MikeOFW" hit it dead smack on the head with his comments!
Jason Campbell is as close to being incompetent as you can be and still suit up on Sundays. If that huddle doesn't look like Mayberry R.F.D. nothing ever will!
The problem is that the pro JC fans will not conceed his inabilities until they see another dozen interceptions and the same number of fumbles, and God help us that they don't happen in the same game.
Jason Campbell is MOST assuredly a VERY FINE individual of OUTSTANDING CHARACTER and MORAL QUALITIES, BUT, he is not an N.F.L. Quarterback. REPEAT, "HE IS NOT AN N.F.L. QUARTERBACK"
The bottom line is that the Redskins will not be remotely in contention for another Championship until we get a STAR behind center. But alas, Snyder doesn't deserve a Lombardi anyway so what else is new......

The Rams will win on Sunday, and the casket maker will start drawing overtime pay. Skins will not win more than "4" this season.

Posted by: burro2 | September 16, 2009 11:18 AM | Report abuse

Will someone please tell me why we have the only corners in the league that you can't see even on a wide screen? I can throw a slant against our corners. Its painful to think that it takes an errand throw on 3rd and less than ten to stop an offense.

Posted by: Luvdanappy | September 16, 2009 11:20 AM | Report abuse

"We still can accomplish the things we want to as a team as long as everyone just takes responsibility for themselves and does their job. That's a big thing we've been talking about [since camp]: Just do your job and don't worry about what anyone else is doing. That's what we have to do. Just do your job."

He is probably talking about the rest of the league, but it's also the crux of the Deadskins problems. No one cares what the other person is doing - this why they don't play like a team and just collect paychecks as individuals. There is no passion for winning on this team.

Posted by: lylewimbledon | September 16, 2009 11:46 AM | Report abuse

LOL! all of these Xbox abd PS3 QB's on here...I bet most of you with these detailed "how to be a QB in the NFL" posts never even played the game at any level outside of Madden...all you haters suck as Redskin fans and your comments show a true lack of football knowledge...your comments about throwing motion and stepping up in the pocket are nothing but watered down regurgitations of what you hear on NFL Live and NFL Network, but because you don't really know the game beyond the perspective of a whining fan you can't even poach the words you hear on the tv correctly. Every QB gets caught hanging the ball low or not stepping up in the pocket at times...If JC's mechanics were as flawed as many of you say, his turnover ratio would be way higher than it is...in fact, Brady got caught not stepping up in the pocket Monday night and got sacked as a result...Rivers did the same thing and guess what? he got sacked as a result...Eli did something simliar and guess what? he fumbled...not making excuses for JC but he didn't lose that game alone...funny how i don't hear much about the missed tackles, poor coverage...poor run D...lack of reciever separation...all of that...OUR ENTIRE TEAM needs to step up...Put some pads on or shut ya mouths...you sound like a bunch of little girls anyway...

HAIL Skins!!

Posted by: tejr3575 | September 16, 2009 11:49 AM | Report abuse

The game has been dissected a great deal. I think the overall most concerning thing I saw on Sunday is this team still plays with no confidence. From the coach, to the QB, through the rest of the team, this is a team that plays scared most of the time. Playing that way does not win football games. Buffalo and the Raider by contrast played winning football against their very talented opponents and almost pulled out upsets. Had we played like them, I would have a lot more hope than I have now for the remainder of the season.

Posted by: rphilli721 | September 16, 2009 12:04 PM | Report abuse

We don't give up so fast, we have seen this year after year. It is easy to say have patients, but not when you are one of the problems.

Posted by: curb1 | September 16, 2009 12:04 PM | Report abuse

Two Names:
Flacco and Ryan. JC has had 4 years to learn to get rid of the ball. I wince every time he drops back to pass. JC is a great guy but it is time to go in another direction. Now.

Posted by: chopin224 | September 16, 2009 12:15 PM | Report abuse

"I understand people being disappointed we didn't win, but the way some people get down so quickly, it's just crazy,"

My dear Jason....

Ummm, NO!

This is the problem in Washington, there is NO sense of urgency.

The Giants have it.

The Eagles have it.

Dallas doesn't hasn't had it since Parcells left.

One thing that I give Joe Gibbs credit for is he knew that in order to be anything you HAVE to win the division. These Redskins do not get it.

I don't blame the players however, I blame the coaches. The coaches here are not very good. Look what happend in NY. They finally got a good coach and they won a SB. Your coaches have to instill it in the players and Zorn and company do not know how to do that.

Snyder only wants to hire someone who cowers to his needs.

Jason. I hope you enjoyed your time here because this is your last season in the Bugandy and Gold.

- Ray

PS - You still don't get it.

Posted by: rmcazz | September 16, 2009 12:28 PM | Report abuse

I never hear Zorn blaming himself. At least JC has some honor.

Posted by: whughes1 | September 16, 2009 12:44 PM | Report abuse

I never hear Zorn blaming himself. At least JC has some honor.

Posted by: whughes1 | September 16, 2009 12:44 PM | Report abuse

The thing that kills me is that you see rookie head coaches with rookie QBs (Jets this year and Falcons last year) gel as a team quickly on offense. I am not sure what holds us back on game day with all the "progress" we make in OTAs and practice, but it seems like we are lacking the "it" factor that Smith has in Atlanta and what presumably Ryan has in New York. Not sure if you saw it but the Jets played on the road and their Offense and Defense were TIGHT!

Posted by: dwninit71 | September 16, 2009 1:06 PM | Report abuse

Campbell coming out and saying, "I am 100% to blame, I am too mentally slow, I quit" was really what I was hoping to read in this article. His reaction time stinks!! If I'm driving through an intersection and getting ready to be "T"-boned, Campbell is the last one I want behind the wheel of the other car! The emergency rescue folks would arrive before it would occur to JC to apply the brakes!!!

Posted by: brianjames1 | September 16, 2009 1:16 PM | Report abuse

long ago folks had 'EYES' and a FEEL for the game, they didn't need QB ratings to tell if someone was on their game or not ... don't give 'rates' give wins. JC says don't be scared - WOW he's the one that's scaring folks with flashback images of years past.

Posted by: aypub | September 16, 2009 1:20 PM | Report abuse

Vinny Cerrato needs to be fired and Daniel Synder needs to sell the team...then the Skins will be back on the warpath!!!

Posted by: meximala | September 16, 2009 1:22 PM | Report abuse

"There are some things you should never accept.

1) Tofu as meat alternative.
2) The chick who replaced Chrissy on Three's Company.
3) That if the glove doesn't fit, you must acquit.
4) Mediocrity from my NFL team."

Posted by: Kenbeatrizz | September 15, 2009 12:01 PM

Okay, on 1 absolutely not...Tofu is bean CURD, nnot even something good like baked beans, but bean curd...some kind of bean leavins. That's just gross.

on 2...If you're talking Jenilee Harrison, the FIRST replacement for Chrissy...I'd agree. Dumb as a box of rocka on and off screen. How-EV-er Priscilla Barnes the SECOND replacement for Chrissy, was a FOX in the 80's and is was STILL a cougar until about 3-4 years ago. Plus she can actually act, too.

on 3...no comment...too easy

and four, I'll except it from any team OTHER than the Washington Redskins (or whatever they eventually get bullied or bribed into changing the team name to).

BTW-if this name change is that critical an issue, why not just rename the team the Washington Warriors...keeping all the other logos intact? Or is that TOO easy?

Hail to the Reskins.

Posted by: ThinkingMan | September 16, 2009 1:26 PM | Report abuse

"The thing that kills me is that you see rookie head coaches with rookie QBs (Jets this year and Falcons last year) gel as a team quickly on offense. I am not sure what holds us back on game day with all the "progress" we make in OTAs and practice, but it seems like we are lacking the "it" factor that Smith has in Atlanta and what presumably Ryan has in New York. Not sure if you saw it but the Jets played on the road and their Offense and Defense were TIGHT!"

My feel's exactly.......and don't forget Flacco & The Ravens.....they contended mightily for the AFC championship for crying out loud!! Like Zorn & Campbell....nice guys.....but you know what they say about nice guys......after last year and now seeing more of the same: I have seen enough. If JasonC DOES NOT produce big this week--and every week--darn right he should be benched....not fair to the team and us dumb-assed fans to do anything else........YOU PLAY TO WIN THE GAME (I'll take Herm anyday as HC at this point).....we messed up not signing Garcia BTW......more BS...

Posted by: tabtool | September 16, 2009 1:27 PM | Report abuse

I was a Campbell supporter but I'm starting to waiver a little bit. I don't understand how a veteran cornerback can make an illegal forward pass and throw a pick on the same play. I personally think he should run the ball atleast 3 times a game. This would help with what I feel is the biggest offensive issue. The receivers never get open downfield. How many deep balls do other teams connect on every game. Even receivers that draw double coverage every week either still catch long passes or they draw enough attention to allow someone else to get one. If we can fix this problem we'll be straight.

Posted by: tywill28 | September 16, 2009 1:44 PM | Report abuse

JC is fine, he'll be fine. Mediocre recievers that do not seem to get any separation. why? we run the same slant routes and screen passses TOO OFTEN, and we have a bunch of old midgets, we need one possession reciever! the entire nfl knows us. West coast my a$$....i havent seen anything different from when joe gibbs was here. Everybody wants to always put it on JC... and while yes he is the QB the leader, but that loss was not entirely on him. Missed tackles, Giving up plays on 3rd down. HORRIBLE PLAY CALLIN IN THE RED ZONE! As for the person who made the comment as to JC not winning any games for us. what about N.O last season, game winning td pass to moss i believe. or what bout San Fran @ end of last year...drove us down the field to score for the lead, and the decent let them walk down the field in TD Prevention when they only needed 3 for the win? or what bout the TD pass drop by moss against DAL last season in the final minutes that hit moss on the hands. JC is a good quarterback, he just needs to be more vocal and take more control. WE ALSO NEED TO SEE COMBOS OF PORTIS and MASON in the backfield! we did keep him right?

Posted by: scurtis4 | September 16, 2009 1:50 PM | Report abuse

defense** not decent

Posted by: scurtis4 | September 16, 2009 1:51 PM | Report abuse

It all come down to coaching and clock management. If the coaches can't get the plays in on time and fail to open up the offence until the end of the game then we're looking at a long season. I understand that this was the first game of the season , but we needed to make a statement that we have confidence in Jason to throw the long ball. Coach Zorn, open up the offence and allow Jason to throw the long ball. What do you have to lose, its your last year and Jason's anyway.

Posted by: biggriff5 | September 16, 2009 1:57 PM | Report abuse

The problem with Campbell's comments is that he still doesn't get it. He didn't just hold on to the ball too long on the fumble. He failed to step up in the pocket. The oline created a huge pocket but he just keep fading back right into the rush. Samuels did his job on the play which was to ride his man out wide and behind the QB. Campbell was just unaware of what was going on and never stepped forward into the space that his line created. He's done this his entire career. He has no pocket presence whatsoever.

Posted by: brendan187 | September 16, 2009 2:06 PM | Report abuse

It's almost like Campbell is being dishonest with himself. He knows he didn't hold the ball too long on the play that he got stripped. He knows that the o-line gave him a good pocket on that play. He knows that HE didn't step up to avoid the DE's that Samuels and Heyer had pushed behind him. I wondered why Gibbs would not allow Campbell to extend plays. It is because Campbell lacks the ability to improvise.


Posted by: coparker5 | September 16, 2009 2:14 PM | Report abuse

The only person he should be admonishing is his sorry a** self. When will we be rid of this loser and get a real QB?

Posted by: rjclay | September 16, 2009 2:35 PM | Report abuse

At the core of it all, JC is just another overpaid and underperforming dimwit who does not give a damn about anything even remotely related to winning a football game. And I for one am fed up to the back teeth with his "don't worry, be happy" dismissal of any number of valid criticisms about his performance both on and off the field. The time to get rid of this bumbling embarrassment is long overdue!

Posted by: Vic1 | September 16, 2009 2:45 PM | Report abuse

campbell needs to take a long view from the bench where he belongs...this bums had 4 years to show if he can be an pro QB and hasn't shown any signs of improvement...does anyone think he would of helped us win them last 4 games a few years ago to get into the playoffs when he got hurt?no he wouldn't of because he sucks...thanks for draft this losing and leaving us stuck with him gibbs.

Posted by: HailSkins14 | September 16, 2009 2:51 PM | Report abuse

The Cry babies NEW FANS:
SHUT UP!
The Skins Need Young Offensive lineman this was not address now you see the results.
You could put TOM BRADY behind the Skins line and get the same results!

The same could be said about the defense line our DE are wothless and OLD! Our secondary are weak.

SAME STORY DIFFERNT YEAR!

Posted by: shamken | September 16, 2009 2:53 PM | Report abuse

Wow another poor Jason story. I will predict that the Redskins and particularly JC will struggle against the Rams. Three and out Campbell will be booed before the end of the first half. The Rams coach is the exGiant defensive dude. I'm sure he has already spoken to the Giants coaches as to how to defend the inept one. I'll also predict that after the Skins lose sunday the clueless Zorn will not make a change. He will most likely be fired by midseason.

Posted by: theBozyn | September 16, 2009 3:00 PM | Report abuse

zorn needs to stop being conservative and let campbell take shots down the field on 1st down and get into the no huddle offense more...zorn will be fired before the seasons over if he continues to take his conservative approach.

Posted by: HailSkins14 | September 16, 2009 3:12 PM | Report abuse

the fans "...get down SO QUICKLY, it's crazy."

ARE YOU KIDDING ME??? this offense has NOT been able to score the last several seasons, it's the same offensive garbage. this team hasn't scored over 30 points since 2007!!! it doesn't matter about Campbell's improving stats/qb rating, this team can't get TDs and can't win consistently.

i'm sick of Campbell's excuses (we didn't execute, they're a good team, etc...) we need to SCORE TDs!! that alone would've improved our record in the past/will improve our record in the future. this is not on the D, it's on the QB!

Posted by: criscila | September 16, 2009 3:31 PM | Report abuse

why didn't they try and get jeff garcia too?he's knows the west coast offense and would be great to come fill in if campbell gets benched...collins is a career back up who looked good on 07 because he spent most of his career in al saunders offense who isn't here anymore and brennan is out for the season.

Posted by: HailSkins14 | September 16, 2009 3:41 PM | Report abuse

Jason does not have a long view, he is a 5th year QB failing for the 3rd years as a starter. Every bad game brings his career closer to an end, and unless he improves significantly in the next 3 games that end, at least as a starter, is getting very close.

Posted by: edeshields | September 16, 2009 3:43 PM | Report abuse

Being a die hard REDSKIN fan living New York is tough. It's safe to say i'm tired of the abuse from co-workers and family. lol I'm not giving up on the season. Especially with the schedule in the early stage of the season. But unless D. Hall learns to tackle and Campbell finds time to throw the rock. It's going to be a long season. And if Zorn is not going to have confidence in Campbell and open up the offense. Please put in Collins. Time is running out on Campbell and Zorn. I hope they come thourgh this season.

Posted by: prjay120 | September 16, 2009 7:06 PM | Report abuse

Why am I guessing back in 2007 when the Skins were 5-7, after losing the last 4 games you were also making excuses for Campbell then? And I'm guessing you weren't thinking we should bench Campbell and put in Collins to save the season back then either. Well Campbell wasn't benched but he was hurt Collins came in won the next 4 games (including the NY Giants in NY) with a 106 QB rating (second highest to Tom Brady) and was named NFC Offensive player of the Month)getting the Skins in the playoffs thereby saving the season. And yeah i know it was Saunders system.. but back then Gibbs didn't think that made a difference otherwise he would have bench Campbell sooner.. no? Bottomline Collins has never had a shot since that time.. why not consider giving him another one this season??? You never know.

Posted by: jsmith33351 | September 16, 2009 7:12 PM | Report abuse

Until I see Campbell in a no huddle for a solid quarter of play, I'll never agree that this is on his shoulders. That last drive looked fine, and Zorn's uber conservative playcalling was nowhere to be found. C'mon, guys, let's give it a try. Campbell might manage the playcalling better than his coach, and we might even get to see a downfield pass. Yess! That thing where the ball goes more than 6 yards on 3rd and 7.

I know I've seen these. Art Monk used to do them.

Posted by: messykat | September 16, 2009 7:27 PM | Report abuse

I love the skins, but I have been frustrated being a fan (like many of you) during the last several years. I have never been sold on J.C. since he doesn't seem to have any confidence in the pocket. I am also skeptical of him having the ability to grasp the west coast offense in the NFL. The problem is personnel. Kelly has to step up this year and become that viable number 2 possession type of receiver to make this system work. Another obvious problem to point is the offensive line. The line has been broken for a few years. Why in the hell didn't we draft high caliber o-linemen? The problems will stick with this team all year, but it will not be the only reason for the skins not having any success. For instance, they could have stole that game last weekend if they would have played a clean game. Did you see the play that Hixon made? Tip-toeing down the line for like a 30yd td reception. How many miss tackles were there? The star cornerback that took boxing classes during the offseason got outsmarted by a youngster. It made me sick to watch that because those seven points cost us the game. Deangelo played like crap and hopefully he will play better this weekend. Also, Landry was a bonehead too....committing a 15 personal foul for hitting Jacobs out of bounds. That put the giants in the damn red zone if my memory is correct here. Considering these blunders, we only lost by 6 pts! No one gave us a chance and we lost by 6. Should we have lost by more? Probably, but we also could have stolen the game if Hall knew how to tackle less gifted receivers. Blache and Zorn need to hold that bum accountable for half-assing it out there.

Posted by: HeathShuler | September 16, 2009 9:38 PM | Report abuse

Jason Campbell cost the redskins the game.He plays with that deer in headlights look on his face,doesnt know how to step up in the pocket and makes bonehead plays which always seem to be the turning point in the game!Look there's way too much talent on that offense right now to be struggling scoring points.I want jason to succeed but Im getting really impatient and frustrated watching my boys go out every sunday and losing heart breakers.You guys cant blame the D either because besides Hall playing two hand touch with Manningham and Smoot proving once again he's finished they played well!!Remember the giants o line is the best if not 2nd best in the league.Also its hard to keep up in week 1 as it is but even harder when your offense goes 3 and out or 5 and turnover!!! Damn im frustrated!!!

Posted by: bhj181 | September 16, 2009 11:08 PM | Report abuse

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