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Campbell on Zorn firing: 'We all really expected it by now'

Quarterback Jason Campbell was not surprised to learn Coach Jim Zorn was fired early Monday morning after the team returned from its season finale at San Diego.

"We had been hearing in would happen for so long, I think it would have been a surprise if it didn't happen," Campbell said in a phone interview. "When something has been going on as long as this was, it really doesn't come as a shock. I mean, we all really expected it by now."

No player worked more closely with Zorn than Campbell. Owner Daniel Snyder, in large part, hired Zorn - first as offensive coordinator and then quickly promoted him to head coach - in an attempt to help Campbell become an elite quarterback. In Zorn, Snyder believed he had the right person to turn Campbell into the franchise quarterback Snyder eagerly sought since he bought the team.


To be sure, Campbell improved under Zorn's tutelage. Despite playing behind one of the league's worst offensive lines, the fifth-year player established personal-bests with 3,618 yards passing, 20 touchdowns, a 64.5 completion percentage and an 86.4 quarterback rating. He also was sacked a career-high 43 times and set an interception mark with 15.

But there was significant friction between Campbell and Zorn this season, several players said. Campbell believed Zorn was not as supportive of him as he could have been when things began to fall apart early this season. Asked last week if Campbell could become a franchise quarterback, Zorn paused for a long time and essentially said he doubted Campbell would reach that level.

"You know, you have teammates come to you and ask you why certain things were said," Campbell said. "They tell you things that they hear, but I tried not to focus on it. I just tried to block out that stuff and be professional. But, yeah, you do hear things that you think about."

The Redskins this week are expected to introduce former Denver Broncos coach Mike Shanahan as their next head coach, according to team sources. Shanahan, considered one of the game's best offensive tacticians and an excellent quarterbacks coach, wants to draft a young quarterback and "raise" him, according to a league source familiar with his plans. Campbell will be a restricted free agent after the season.

"I don't know what's going to happen or what it would be like to work with [Shanahan]," Campbell said. "You know, we don't have a new coach yet. No one has told me we've hired a new coach, so until I hear we have, I can't really comment on what it would be like to work with someone else.

"And being restricted, a lot of what's going to happen is out of my control. It's not like I can just leave. You have to see what direction the organization is going to go in and what they think about you. I know I can play the quarterback position in this league and that's what some of the top people in this league tell me. Now, I just have to wait."

By Jason Reid  |  January 4, 2010; 10:04 AM ET
Categories:  Jason Reid  | Tags: Jim Zorn  
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IF we get Sam Bradford, he will not start until year 2.

So, that means the Redskins have 2 years to get their line in order for him.

JAson Campbell will not go to another team, for less than a 3rd/2nd round pick, so more than likely...he'll stay. OR, we could start Todd Collins or Colt or soon to be named journeyman in his place until Bradford is ready to take over.

What's the problem with all this?

Posted by: 4thFloor | January 4, 2010 10:08 AM | Report abuse

Waiting for the 12:00 hour.

Posted by: glawrence007 | January 4, 2010 10:09 AM | Report abuse

This might be the most damning piece of evidence...


Not even Zorn supported this guy....And 80% of his pass attempts were 10 yards or under.....alot of different back ups in the NFL can do that.....

Posted by: 4thFloor | January 4, 2010 10:11 AM | Report abuse

Checking Zimmer's stats his Dallas defenses were very good almost always in the top 10.

The Bengals defense is 4th this year he could be a good fit here.

Posted by: Flounder21 | January 4, 2010 10:13 AM | Report abuse

On SI, Ross Tucker has a funny article about "footballisms".

This bit caught my eye and immediately I thought about all the Jason Campbell apologists:

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"Stats are for losers." This is one of my favorites. I was happy to hear Patriots coach Bill Belichick say this at one of his press conferences a couple of weeks back in reference to a question about Randy Moss and his lack of production against Carolina. This has long been one of the basic, behind the scene commandments of life in the NFL and I was delighted Belichick took it mainstream.

The point is that typically you really only hear a team that lost or fell short of their goals talking about the statistics.

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Pretty much sounds like the JC17 slurpers up here after every loss throwing out his completion % and his QB rating.

Posted by: p1funk | January 4, 2010 10:14 AM | Report abuse

4th, you are so right. Unless we get some draft picks, Campbell will be back. Would love to see us draft okung with the 4th pick, then see if a qb Shanahan likes drops to the 2nd rnd.then pick up a guard in the 4th and another linebacker.

Posted by: dolemite1 | January 4, 2010 10:14 AM | Report abuse

At least there are/should be 4 excellent games on Sat and Sunday…..really hope that the Eagles can bounce back in Dallas. Hopefully the Boys are getting pretty full of themselves and might be a bit too cocky. Although I couldn’t tell you the last team to post consecutive NFC East divisional shutouts….that’s pretty impressive. I guess we will see if Andy Reid can make the needed adjustments……someone on the Eagles needs to jackhammer Miles Austin early on in the game….his little celebrations are getting “Irvin-esque”……

Posted by: dlhaze1 | January 4, 2010 10:15 AM | Report abuse

A snap shot of the Skins season, yesterday - on the goal line - JC to Sellers for three yards...too bad the endzone was 4 yards away...sigh

Posted by: ssh1549 | January 4, 2010 10:16 AM | Report abuse

I did a quick check:
Switzer-offense (created the wishbone)
Gailey- offense
Campo-defensive

Posted by: alex35332 | January 4, 2010 10:15 AM | Report abuse

Posted by: alex35332 | January 4, 2010 10:17 AM | Report abuse

First round-LT

second round-rb

third round-X

fourth round-FS

fifth round-SL

sixth round-center or guard

seventh round-maybe cornerback

Posted by: lamarlamarwash | January 4, 2010 10:17 AM | Report abuse

All the little children ran with great anticipation, saved nickels clutched in their sweaty hands. Shrill voices carried down the neighborhood streets and across the open fields:

"The circus is back in town!"

"The circus is bak in town..."

Posted by: edvar | January 4, 2010 10:04 AM | Report abuse

LOL LOL LOL

Posted by: Keyskonnection | January 4, 2010 10:18 AM | Report abuse

1st to say Sam Bradford..

Posted by: 4thFloor | January 4, 2010 9:55 AM | Report abuse

Two significant injuries to his throwing shoulder and you want to draft him 4th overall? Why are you so enamored with him? Give me a break.
Hope Allen gives Blache his walking papers along with Bugel, Gray, and Smith. None of them deserve to stick around.

Posted by: ga8085 | January 4, 2010 10:19 AM | Report abuse

Jason,

I would really like to know where this part of your posting came from:

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I believe, Zorn was asked if Campbell WAS a franchise QB when he responded as you indicated. He was not responding to a query as to whether or not Campbell could become one. That is a huge difference. Wording it as you did creates the appearance of lack of support. Maybe Zorn did not support Campbell, but I do not think he said what you posted in response to the question you posed. In fact, I think Zorn said he thought Campbell possessed the ability to become such a QB. Really sad to see this type of thing; Zorn, if nothing else, is an upfront guy and to imply he said things is really not called for.

Posted by: Mountdrago | January 4, 2010 10:19 AM | Report abuse

Laron LAndry = Roy Williams

With this being true, than Zimmer would be good for this team, since that's when Roy was doing good (under Zimmer)....

Posted by: 4thFloor | January 4, 2010 10:20 AM | Report abuse

The only problem I have with Shanny drafting a QB and grooming him is that he has had no success doing this in the past. He inherited Elway, and didn’t put him over the top until Terrell Davis started lighting up the league. His success as the 49ers OC could arguably be attributed to what he had to work with there (Montana/Young, Rice, etc). Post Elway, his QB’s have not done jack squat. I don’t want to say he can’t do it with one of the QB’s in this draft, but I don’t want to see them “blow” a high pick on a risky QB……

Posted by: dlhaze1 | January 4, 2010 10:20 AM | Report abuse

no thanks on a rb with either of the first 2 picks....Is Willis McGahee going to be a free agent, anyone catch his 77 yrd td run yesterday??

Posted by: BeantownGreg1 | January 4, 2010 10:21 AM | Report abuse

No player worked more closely with Zorn than Campbell. Owner Daniel Snyder, in large part, hired Zorn - first as offensive coordinator and then quickly promoted him to head coach - in an attempt to help Campbell become an elite quarterback. In Zorn, Snyder believed he had the right person to turn Campbell into the franchise quarterback Snyder eagerly sought since he bought the team.
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In other words Campbell is a coach killer.. Gibbs quit because he had to know he couldn't win with Campbell. Saunders was dumped because Campbell couldn't figure out how to run his offense and now Zorn.. Cerrato, Zorn.. Campbell has to be the next to go...


Posted by: sovine08 | January 4, 2010 10:21 AM | Report abuse

@ lamarlamarwash
I hope the skins do not get a 2nd rnd rb unless Spiller falls that far. We need a lb so we can get Orakpo at DE full time.

Posted by: dolemite1 | January 4, 2010 10:21 AM | Report abuse

beeps

Posted by: BeantownGreg1 | January 4, 2010 10:22 AM | Report abuse

I don't think its fair to say that Gibbs and Suanders quit because he couldn't win with Campbell, Gibbs did because of his grandson and the death of Taylor, when he left so did Al.

Posted by: alex35332 | January 4, 2010 10:24 AM | Report abuse

4th, Jason Campbell gets the highest level tender, Clot gets traded to the Browns (where he travels with Browns' new OC, Jim Zorn), and The Todd's fate depends on whether anyone picks up Jason Campbell in RFA. If not, then The Todd retires. If yes, then The Todd stays as the #2 guy till the new QB is ready (or, if Pennington or Garcia are available, the Skins dump The Todd for one of those two as interim QBs).

Also, beep beep

Posted by: dcsween | January 4, 2010 10:25 AM | Report abuse

So people think Synder is classless for not supporting Zorn, who clearly was over his head.

Zorn, when offered the opportunity, did not support his QB -- who might also be in over his head. This happened several times during the season.

Synder is classless, while Zorn is a great guy? Yeah right.

When Campbell had time to throw the ball this season, he did well. When he didn't, he didn't.

As for Shanahan, raising up a QB, let's think about this. Griese, Plummer. Cutler.

Posted by: dpc2003 | January 4, 2010 10:27 AM | Report abuse

sovine, im glad to see the conspiracy theories are back, by the way, did you know the cia set up the hit on JFK? David Stern rigged the 1985 draft so the knicks got Ewing?

Posted by: gtstang9t3 | January 4, 2010 10:30 AM | Report abuse

Follow up to my previous post. In this article in the WP

(http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2009/12/30/AR2009123002532.html

the Post indicates Zorn said Campbell WAS not a franchise QB but specifically said he could become one (though, he did pause in responding).

So, Jason Reid's statement above the Zorn said Campbell could not become a franchise QB is incorrect or the WP's previous article had incorrect quotes. Given all the garbage Zorn and Campbell have had to endure, an apology and correction would be in order.

Posted by: Mountdrago | January 4, 2010 10:33 AM | Report abuse

Two significant injuries to his throwing shoulder and you want to draft him 4th overall? Why are you so enamored with him? Give me a break.
Hope Allen gives Blache his walking papers along with Bugel, Gray, and Smith. None of them deserve to stick around.

Posted by: ga8085 | January 4, 2010 10:19 AM

Dree Brees

Posted by: 4thFloor | January 4, 2010 10:36 AM | Report abuse

sovine08,

Nonsense.

Posted by: FloridaCapsFan | January 4, 2010 10:36 AM | Report abuse

Pretty much sounds like the JC17 slurpers up here after every loss throwing out his completion % and his QB rating.

Posted by: p1funk | January 4, 2010 10:14 AM | Report abuse

Well, see when you need to rebuild the entire team you tend to look at individual players and statistics help you do that but you and the rest of the 1 player away tards don't realize that. You think that intangibles are going to turn Stephon Heyer into an NLF starting caliber lineman. You tards think that leading a scoring 4th quarter drive with less than 10 seconds on the clock during a blue moon on a Thursday with runners in scoring position is going to make Levi Jones last a whole season. You tards are too dumb to realize that all the good teams built the oline first then got their QBs. You guys want to go out and get another QB without realizing that all that would accomplish is removing all doubt that we are the Detroit Lions with different colors. How did Matt Stafford do this season? I believe he had a leg and shoulder injury. That seems like a smart way to develop a $50 milion quarterback. The only one slurping around here are you tards trying to swallow your own spit.

Posted by: PAskinsfan17 | January 4, 2010 10:39 AM | Report abuse

If Cerrato's future was tied to Zorn's success, AND Zorn's future was tied to Campbell's success, I think the writting is also on the wall for Jason Campbell.
To use JC's words, I will be surprised if he returns next year.

Posted by: JeanJak | January 4, 2010 10:44 AM | Report abuse

Sure, let's get a young gun QB and then let him get slaughtered because there is no protection. Great plan!

Posted by: InTheMiddle | January 4, 2010 10:45 AM | Report abuse

First of all, I love how nothing is EVER Campbell's fault. The guy never accepts any role in the team's failures. Nor do his supporters. It's always, "He's had to learn so many systems, not enough time in the system ..." Favre never played for Childress, and he didn't even show up for camp, and he had an MVP season. Sanchez made the jump to the pros after only one year starting in college, and he had an excellent year for a rookie, leading his team to a playoff berth.

Campbell is an awful quarterback (see the Hail Mary at the end of yesterday's game when he threw the ball 30 yards out of bounds, or all of the passes to moss that were three feet over his head), he has terrible mechanics and is simply incapable anticipating the action and making quick decisions. However, since this will be an uncapped year, and Campbell will be a restricted free agent, the team should make the lowest one-year tender necessary to ensure compensation if another team picks him up. 2011 will be a lockout year, so the team could draft a second/third-rounder like Tony Pike and develop him over that two-year period, or just wait until the 2012 draft.

Either way, they only need Campbell for one more season. Then he can go off to live out his career in obscurity as a perennial back-up.

Posted by: tkoho | January 4, 2010 10:56 AM | Report abuse

Did Drew Brees operate out of a spread formation in college? Bradford scares me because he is 1.in a spread offense, 2. injury prone (which is great news because we have a stellar o line), 3. Has'nt played football in a year, 4. He is not a left tackle

Posted by: gtstang9t3 | January 4, 2010 10:58 AM | Report abuse

Justin Tryon drops sure interception on Chargers final drive that would have sealed victory, Sean S. misses late field goal against N.O. that would have all but assurred victory.....the list goes on and on. Good defense but can't make big play/stop when needed, good kicker except in clutch against N.O. & Dallas, some decent offensive players but just can't make the critical play - sorry, but everything needs to be changed - enough with mediocrity.

Posted by: dhbrown52 | January 4, 2010 11:14 AM | Report abuse

I think it sucks that Jason Campbell will not be the QB moving forward for a number of reasons. Can someone name QB's under 30 for me that pass for over 3600 yards, 20 TD's, and 4rd among QB's in rushing and wasn't considered the franchise QB?

Then it is one thing to part ways and feel like you just don't want JC as your QB but to be considering Sam Bradford as the replacement?!?!?! Are you kidding me?? A kid with suspect arm strength(before the shoulder injury mind you) and he practically never took a snap from under center. How many of those QB's turn into franchise players?!?!?!

This draft features a boat load of talented offensive lineman. Why waste your first round pick on a QB when you already have one? Why not address the real need and build up the line? They can attempt to trade their top 5 or 6 pick for a later first round pick and an additional second round pick. They would then be more than able to address the REAL issues of this team.

Posted by: eazy413 | January 4, 2010 11:24 AM | Report abuse

Jason,

I would really like to know where this part of your posting came from:

>

I believe, Zorn was asked if Campbell WAS a franchise QB when he responded as you indicated. He was not responding to a query as to whether or not Campbell could become one. That is a huge difference. Wording it as you did creates the appearance of lack of support. Maybe Zorn did not support Campbell, but I do not think he said what you posted in response to the question you posed. In fact, I think Zorn said he thought Campbell possessed the ability to become such a QB. Really sad to see this type of thing; Zorn, if nothing else, is an upfront guy and to imply he said things is really not called for.

Posted by: Mountdrago
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You are absolutely correct in your post on Zorn, Mountdrago. I was kind of surprised to see Reid's misrepresentation of Zorn's comments. He said that Jason could be that kind of QB with his work ethic, but hasn't reached that point yet--which is a fair assessment of Jason. Zorn has not issued any disparaging remarks about Campbell or anyone else and has been a standup guy throughout this whole circus act, so there's no need for Reid to be making up stuff.

Posted by: postwell1 | January 4, 2010 11:59 AM | Report abuse

bradford is another great white hope with a mediorce arm and injury prone..think he will stand up for a season behind this o-line? this team needs to draft down they need more than a QB. I understand the next HC will want his own QB if so draft one in the 3-4th round. LT RB RT are the first 2 picks.

Posted by: wathu19 | January 4, 2010 12:04 PM | Report abuse

First of all, I love how nothing is EVER Campbell's fault. The guy never accepts any role in the team's failures. Nor do his supporters. It's always, "He's had to learn so many systems, not enough time in the system ..." Favre never played for Childress, and he didn't even show up for camp, and he had an MVP season. Sanchez made the jump to the pros after only one year starting in college, and he had an excellent year for a rookie, leading his team to a playoff berth.

Campbell is an awful quarterback (see the Hail Mary at the end of yesterday's game when he threw the ball 30 yards out of bounds, or all of the passes to moss that were three feet over his head), he has terrible mechanics and is simply incapable anticipating the action and making quick decisions. However, since this will be an uncapped year, and Campbell will be a restricted free agent, the team should make the lowest one-year tender necessary to ensure compensation if another team picks him up. 2011 will be a lockout year, so the team could draft a second/third-rounder like Tony Pike and develop him over that two-year period, or just wait until the 2012 draft.

Either way, they only need Campbell for one more season. Then he can go off to live out his career in obscurity as a perennial back-up.

Posted by: tkoho | January 4, 2010 10:56 AM | Report abuse
Farve may have never played for Chilly, but it's the same offense he was in his whole career in Green Bay. And someone please name me 10 no doubt about it QB's better then Campbell

Posted by: I_95 | January 4, 2010 12:04 PM | Report abuse

I think it sucks that Jason Campbell will not be the QB moving forward for a number of reasons. Can someone name QB's under 30 for me that pass for over 3600 yards, 20 TD's, and 4rd among QB's in rushing and wasn't considered the franchise QB? ...

Posted by: eazy413
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And to add to what has been said, Jason accomplished this after he lost virtually his entire offense: his pro-bowl o-linemen, TE, and RB--not to mention that Sellers went down at the end and Moss and the other receivers weren't as effective as they could be. On top of all that, the skins changed play callers at midseason, and Jason played under a HC who was learning as he go. Despite all of the things he had to endure, Jason still kept his composure and put up good numbers; and that's many are confident that he's going to be a great QB for some organization that knows how to build a team.

Posted by: postwell1 | January 4, 2010 12:24 PM | Report abuse

I don't know why some people are so eager to get rid of Campbell. I could understand is Brady, Manning, or Breese were trying to come to Washington. Instead, some people are talking about drafting someone out of college who hasn't proven he can play on the NFL level and who hasn't shown that he will be an "elite" quaterback at the NFL level. While Campbell is not elite, he is more than capable of playing and winning in this league. He's proven that when given the right pieces (by the way all the elite quaterbacks had the right pieces: wide recievers, running backs, and good offensive lines) he's able to be successfull. You think Bradford will be successful behind this awful line? You think any quaterback coming out of college would be successful throwing to any of these recievers not named Moss? Do any of these Quaterbacks have the respect of the team like Campbell has? The answer to all those questions is NO! Get off his back and look at the situation fairly.

This ear was the first year Campbell had the same offensive scheme for more than a year, the offensive line has been horrible for two years and falling apart for four years, the running back has been injury prone and aging the last three years, the recievers have been slow to develop thus making it easier for Moss to be contained by special coverages. The only bright spot has been Cooley and the rookie tight end. Who available is a better quaterback than Campbell? Nobody! Say what you want about how someone dominates college, the NFL is full of stories about players who were the NEXT BIG THING and turned about to be just HYPE.

Posted by: poeticfire | January 4, 2010 1:11 PM | Report abuse

Jason,
I cannot protest strongly enough your flagrant misinterpretation of Zorn's remark as to wether JC is a franchise QB or not. The question was not actually put to him, he simply said it was a commonly asked question, and he didn't think JC was there yet, but went along to say other positive things about JC.Your statement suggests Zorn believes JC could never be a Franchise qb, he may well never be but Zorn never said or implied that. Please retract and renounce your statement.

Posted by: kayboye | January 4, 2010 2:04 PM | Report abuse

we stink - ive been a skins fan ever since i learned how to walk. i vividly remember the 87 and 91 superbowl champs.

i think its about time to face the facts. we're the new Cardinals of the nfc east. only difference is, we spend money

Posted by: Nats1924 | January 4, 2010 2:23 PM | Report abuse

Can't believe the number of people who want back a QB who is 6-18 in his last 24 games. Yeah I know it's all the OL fault or Zorns fault or all Snyders fault or what George Bush's fault??? Campbell lost to the Lions when his OL was mainly heathly. Beat the Rams by only 2 points at the same time.. Lost to the Chiefs almost lost to Tampa when Josh Jonson was QB.. these are not teams that put on a great pass rush no matter who is blocking!!! Couldn't score a TD vs Dal, got crushed by the Giants (a team that a week later were crushed by the Panthers) and couldn't beat the 2nd stringers in SD in a meaningless game for them.. It's simple good QB's can read defenses to avoid sacks, good QB's can complete big plays down field, good QB's can perform a winning drive at the end of a game to lock up a win or get a win.. Campbell can't do any of these things.. Good QBs are LEADERS... Good QB's make the team around them better all you Campbell supporters are complaining about the same thing.... the 10 guys on the field with Campbell can't make him better... Campbell has to go.. and you watch he might get a shot to start somewhere else but he will end up on the bench like most middle of the road QB's do.. Losing JC will be as damaging to the Redskins as when they got rid of Tony Banks...

Posted by: sovine08 | January 4, 2010 4:12 PM | Report abuse

As sovine08 said well: Jason Campbell is THE definition of a coach killer.

Many people don't understand what that term means.

A "coach killer" isn't a guy who flat-out sucks. If the guy just totally sucked, he would be gone and the coach wouldn't be "killed" by him, so to speak.

A coach killer is a player who shows some talent, enough talent that someone in the organization and/or media/fanbase thinks you can win with that player. The coach and/or the organization knows better, but they understand that others feel the guy can play, so they are reluctant to just let the player walk or be cut.

This is exactly what happened to the 'Skins with Campbell. And it "killed" Zorn as it may have with Gibbs, etc.

The 'Skins tried to let Campbell go last offseason but they couldn't get Sanchez or Cutler. They understood then that the team wasn't going anywhere with JC at the helm.

One 4-12 season later, someone has to take the fall. That person is Zorn, who was "coach killed" by Campbell. And several people in the media and some fans still think that Campbell is the solution at QB.

Thankfully, Mike Shanahan is going to come in and run things his own way and will be given the leeway to do so as you would expect for a 2-time Super Bowl winner.

Shanahan runs the West Coast Offense. Everyone knows Campbell is a bad fit for that scheme. So, don't expect to see JC around next year, and if he is hear, he'll probably be toting the clipboard and rocking the headset.

Posted by: Truth6 | January 4, 2010 4:24 PM | Report abuse

The only bad thing about being a Redskins fan, is being a part of a fanbase that even remotely thinks like Daniel "Richie Rich" Snyder. JC was not the problem last year and was not the problem this year. The problem with this team has been the front office, since the day that the ink on the deal dried.

Snyder is a meddler. And what's worse, is he's a meddler with absolutely no football IQ whatsoever. Secondly, he's a terrible businessman. TERRIBLE!!! Rule #1, if you have no clue how to operate an organization you now own... the smart thing to do is go spend money on bringing in someone who knows how to build said organization. Not spend money in an asinine way. That's all he's done since he's been here. With the exception of the year we brought in London Fletcher. That was the one smart offseason we've had under Snyder. We lost some key guys, but we plugged with solid acquisitions. But I digress.

I have no clue as to why a coach of Shanahan's ilk would agree to work for Dan Snyder. Unless he just wants to get paid, I don't see why he'd do it. Now if he gets to "buy the groceries," then fine, that would easily be understandable. Otherwise, no, I'm sorry. I wouldn't stake my name in football on working for an egomaniac. I'm a huge fan of Russ Grimm and would love to pluck him from Arizona (his Redskins and Steelers ties, speak volumes... along with being a man whose held a clipboard, not just coached QB's, no slight to QB coaches intended). Snyder could quite possibly be the worst owner ever. And the only reason ppl can defend him, is because he spends money. So what if it's the wrong expenditures 80% of the time. I wish we could fast forward to after the super bowl, just so we can get a handle on what we can look forward to next season. If we keep the 1st rd pick (which we shouldn't do... we should trade it back for a late first and second), we need to go after one position... OLINE!!! Regardless of the QB, if the Redskins draft a QB with the #4 pick, we better be drafting that player for another team. Because it will all but doom any chance of positive improvement for the next 2-3 years at the least.

Zorn got a raw deal from day one. Should have never agreed to interview to be the HC

JC has improved. JC haters can like it or not, he has. And did someone really use Brett Favre and Sanchez as QB's in new situations to compare JC to? Favre... a first ballot hall of famer, whose playing in the same offense. And Sanchez, a 1st rounder who plays for one of the top 5 rushing teams in the league. Oh and here's the kicker: what do both of those teams have in common -- they both built up their offensive lines before either of those QB's arrived.

Posted by: LIKWID | January 4, 2010 4:25 PM | Report abuse

as far as the redskins I have always been a die hard fan,I think they need a new quarterback too Jason Campbell just isn't getting the job done.

Posted by: perkie1pattypoops | January 4, 2010 4:37 PM | Report abuse

sovine wrote:

In other words Campbell is a coach killer.. Gibbs quit because he had to know he couldn't win with Campbell. Saunders was dumped because Campbell couldn't figure out how to run his offense and now Zorn.. Cerrato, Zorn.. Campbell has to be the next to go...

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Indeed, at the mere Gibbs suggestion that Collins would compete with Campbell for the starting slot at QB following the 2007 season, Snyder threw a fit.

That fit probably didn't sit well with Gibbs who also probably decided that he'd had enough of the Boy King and his childish antics, at which point he decided "he needed to spend more time with the family."

In turn, I've heard thru sources that Gregg Williams said that "Campbell is a coach killer" and when Snyder heard this, he passed on hiring him for head coaching duties.

Campbell = loser + coach killer.

Posted by: jsmith33351 | January 5, 2010 12:00 AM | Report abuse

sovine wrote:

Losing JC will be as damaging to the Redskins as when they got rid of Tony Banks...

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Hey! That's an insult to Tony Banks! I liked Tony Banks! (LMAO)

Posted by: jsmith33351 | January 5, 2010 12:17 AM | Report abuse

As sovine08 said well: Jason Campbell is THE definition of a coach killer.

Many people don't understand what that term means.

A "coach killer" isn't a guy who flat-out sucks. If the guy just totally sucked, he would be gone and the coach wouldn't be "killed" by him, so to speak.

A coach killer is a player who shows some talent, enough talent that someone in the organization and/or media/fanbase thinks you can win with that player. The coach and/or the organization knows better, but they understand that others feel the guy can play, so they are reluctant to just let the player walk or be cut.

This is exactly what happened to the 'Skins with Campbell. And it "killed" Zorn as it may have with Gibbs, etc.

The 'Skins tried to let Campbell go last offseason but they couldn't get Sanchez or Cutler. They understood then that the team wasn't going anywhere with JC at the helm.

One 4-12 season later, someone has to take the fall. That person is Zorn, who was "coach killed" by Campbell. And several people in the media and some fans still think that Campbell is the solution at QB.

Thankfully, Mike Shanahan is going to come in and run things his own way and will be given the leeway to do so as you would expect for a 2-time Super Bowl winner.

Shanahan runs the West Coast Offense. Everyone knows Campbell is a bad fit for that scheme. So, don't expect to see JC around next year, and if he is hear, he'll probably be toting the clipboard and rocking the headset.

Posted by: Truth6 | January 4, 2010 4:24 PM | Report abuse

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Agreed. If Campbell is still around as starting QB at the beginning of next season and the Skins go 0-2 or 1-3 to start the season, he might be axed and not just benched. He could be released and a younger QB may be given his slot.

Can't wait to see how Shanny rules the sidelines with the Skins.

Posted by: jsmith33351 | January 5, 2010 12:26 AM | Report abuse

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