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Cerrato: Roster was capable of reaching playoffs

Vinny Cerrato, Washington's executive vice president of football operations, addressed a variety of topics concerning the team's disappointing 2-5 start while briefly speaking with reporters this afternoon at Redskins Park.

When asked if he felt he provided Coach Jim Zorn with a roster capable of reaching the postseason, Cerrato said, "Yes." When asked to repeat that, Cerrato replied, "yes," again.

Cerrato described the first seven weeks of the season as "frustrating" and "disappointing," saying this "is not where we expected to be." Cerrato is in charge of planning and implementing every aspect of the team's football strategy the last two seasons and that includes assembling an offensive line that one longtime NFL executive on another team recently described as one of the worst in the league.

In an internal offseason evaluation of the roster, the Redskins determined the offensive line was the team's weakest unit because of age and injury concerns and was responsible, in large part, for the 2-6 second-half collapse of 2008. Washington brought back guard Derrick Dockery to replace left guard Pete Kendall and made a push to sign Seattle Seahawks tackle Ray Willis.

More, however, needed to be done for a team with playoff aspirations, especially considering that left tackle Chris Samuels and right guard Randy Thomas were coming off multiple surgeries. Many in the organization expected Samuels and Thomas to miss some, if not all, of the season.

Thomas's season ended in Week 2 because of triceps injury and Samuels suffered a severe neck injury in Week 5. "We got to address and get some depth," running back Clinton Portis said of the offensive line. "We went into the season, and we didn't address that issue and it came back to haunt us."

The Redskins tried, Cerrato said.

"We added Dockery, we added Mike Williams and we attempted to," Cerrato said. "In the draft there was nobody at 13 worthy of it. Are you having the results you want to be? No, we don't want to have sacks. If it was Chris Samuels and Randy Thomas in there, would it be better? Absolutely. If you lose a Pro Bowler, it's definitely going to drop off. I guess where we're standing right now, to have more depth would be great."

As for no one being worthy to be selected with the Redskins' No. 13 overall pick in the 2009 draft, that's a matter of opinion. The Baltimore Ravens have had a much better track record than the Redskins at drafting and developing offensive linemen, and they selected tackle Michael Oher with the 23rd overall pick. Oher has started six games, moving from right tackle to the left side to replace the injured Jared Gaither.

In fairness to Cerrato, there probably aren't many Pro Bowl-caliber tackles in backup roles around the league, which Cerrato quickly pointed out. "Look around the league. Nobody has a Pro Bowler to back up a Pro Bowl," he said. "When you lose some quality people, there is a drop-off. I'm not making excuses. We have to do better."

But the Redskins, as a practice, do not draft offensive linemen. It's a philosophy thing, and that's their choice, but the best teams in the league constantly replenish their offensive lines, the league executive said.

"With Randy, we anticipated not going 16 games," Cerrato said. "We anticipated that part."

Cerrato expressed satisfaction with the team's new play-caller, offensive consultant Sherman Lewis. The Redskins lost their third straight game and produced only 17 points (the Eagles had a 27-7 lead in the first half), "but I thought Sherm provided a spark and I think the offense did some good things. And I think Fred [Davis] and Devin [Thomas] got a chance to do some things offensively. So I think coming and having to face the third-ranked defense that blitzes all the time, I thought he did a good job with the amount of time that he had. I thought he did an excellent job."

Everything, and everyone, in the organization must be evaluated after the season -- Cerrato included, he said. "I got to look at myself, we got to look at everybody and we got to just go out now and you know what you got to do -- you got to get to better day to day, week to week," he said. "And that's what it's about, it's about improving each game. It's one game at a time, one day at a time."

Perhaps you're wondering if Cerrato expects to return in his current position next season. "I feel like my job's on the line all the time," he said. "It's not something that I really worry about. My job is to get us going, to fill these holes when guys get hurt. Things take care of themselves after the season. I don't worry about those things."

By Jason Reid and Rick Maese  |  October 27, 2009; 3:18 PM ET
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"Cerrato: Roster was capable of reaching playoffs"

The point being that the entire team would gather together at the local sports bar to watch in on multiple flatscreens.

Posted by: MistaMoe | October 27, 2009 3:33 PM | Report abuse

They can still go 11-5!

Posted by: REDneckSKINhead | October 27, 2009 3:35 PM | Report abuse

Cerrato is a loudmouthed punk who should be held responsible for his failures.

FIRE HIM. NOW.

Posted by: Vic1 | October 27, 2009 3:36 PM | Report abuse

Wow, he's really a stupid, stupid man isn't he?

Posted by: SnyderisaBornLoser | October 27, 2009 3:37 PM | Report abuse

Vinny made a joke thats funny.

Posted by: Flounder21 | October 27, 2009 3:37 PM | Report abuse

What a donkey

Posted by: mattylight | October 27, 2009 3:37 PM | Report abuse

My favorite line - "we just gotta keep fighting"

Posted by: REDneckSKINhead | October 27, 2009 3:38 PM | Report abuse

Paragraphs 4 and 5 are the most cut-n-pasted paragraphs in the history of cut-n-pasting...

Not that they're *wrong*, mind you...

Posted by: JohnnyRyde | October 27, 2009 3:39 PM | Report abuse

Cerrato sounds like a man who knows his job is definitely on the line this year. Yes no team has a pro bowler coming in to replace a pro bowler but to have no back up left tackle worthy of playing in the NFL is laughable. I for one would have thought they signed someone like Levi Jones by week 2. Oh well! Give the young buck some time so that next year they'll have adequate game experience.

Posted by: TWISI | October 27, 2009 3:41 PM | Report abuse

He's definitely delusional.

Posted by: mdflorals | October 27, 2009 3:41 PM | Report abuse

"What a donkey" Calling a Cerrato a donkey is not a compliment to the two donkeys we own. They are both very cute and lovable, which he is not!!

Posted by: Markin21132 | October 27, 2009 3:45 PM | Report abuse

Their solution to the problems is to ban signs in the stadium. See no evil.....

Posted by: rallenii | October 27, 2009 3:45 PM | Report abuse

A sphincter said 'what'?

Posted by: mikeysuperdons | October 27, 2009 3:45 PM | Report abuse

From PFT and the Bog:

Redskins rule: Fans can't bring signs to games
Posted by Michael David Smith on October 27, 2009 3:29 PM ET

The Washington Redskins haven't just stripped head coach Jim Zorn of the ability to call the plays. They've also stripped their fans of the ability to bring signs to FedEx Field.

Dan Steinberg of the Washington Post reports that the Redskins have issued a blanket policy that no fans are permitted to enter the stadium with signs of any kind. This is a new policy -- a few weeks ago the team banned only inappropriate and offensive signs -- but a Redskins spokesman told the Post he wasn't sure when or why the policy changed.

The official word from the team is that signs and banners can't be permitted in the stadium because they could obstruct fans' views, and the team even says spectators could be injured by signs. But it's hard not to think the Redskins made this policy because they anticipate large numbers of fans bringing signs to the stadium that criticize the team and owner Daniel Snyder.

Whatever the reasons for the policy, the result -- as Steinberg documents -- is that a number of fans who didn't know about the policy were forced to throw their signs away before they could enter Monday night's game against the Eagles. Among the signs that security personnel wouldn't allow in the stadium was one that said, "Hi to my husband in Afghanistan. Love you." Steinberg fished that one -- and several others -- out of a trash can outside FedEx Field.

Obviously, not every sign is going to be as heart warming as a message to a soldier overseas -- one fan was removed from the stadium for a decidedly more negative banner -- but the bottom line for the Redskins is that they've decided they don't want their fans expressing any opinion in a way that can easily be picked up by TV cameras. It's probably safe to say the Redskins wouldn't have a problem with signs in the stands if they didn't have so many problems on the field.


Posted by: mattylight | October 27, 2009 3:45 PM | Report abuse

I think Cerrato has been there long enough for everyone, well, almost everyone, to see that he obviously doesn't know what he's talking about. This situation has gone on too long. If multiple coaches and quarterbacks haven't helped, it can only point to, to, to, Vinny! I left out Snyder because it's futile to think about that.

Posted by: min7th | October 27, 2009 3:47 PM | Report abuse

These comments are a perfect illustration of why he should not be allowed to be in a position to evaluate football talent. He just doesn't understand what it takes to win at this level.

Posted by: will_ga | October 27, 2009 3:47 PM | Report abuse

Denial!

Posted by: skinswest | October 27, 2009 3:48 PM | Report abuse

call me crazy, but i'd guess maybe 70-80% of the time the eagles blitzed, i was able to know EXACTLY where the blitzes were coming from. why didn't Campbell call the blitzes to his linemen and adjust the blocking? at least 3 or 4 times the RB was lining up on the left side of a shotgun when the blitz was CLEARLY coming from the right, or vice versa!
if the blitz is picked up, there are 3 receivers getting open in single coverage.
I think that's 100% jason's fault. and on jason's fumble, he's running to the left and trying to THROW. is he crazy? only lefty QBs can do that because the ball is away from the rusher from behind. Jason can do that if he's running right because the D-linemen that are chasing cannot reach around and knock the ball away. it's just small things that WE CAN ALL SEE that this offense doesn't realize, mainly the QB. Add in the open Santana TD on the Slant n' Go pump fake and that's literally a 20 POINT SWING, cause the eagles scored immediately after that punt on Jackson's 2nd TD.
I can guarantee Todd Collins would not have made either of the first 2 Turnovers. Sacks, maybe, but i'd definitely take a punt over a turnover in our own red zone any day.

Posted by: kman2 | October 27, 2009 3:49 PM | Report abuse

Cerrato has to go... CERRATO HAS TO GO!

And that is the bottomline. If Dan doesn't decide after or during this season to restructure its Football Operations Leadership with a President or GM to lead this Franchise, its old hat...

And we are all so sick of the SOS!

Posted by: EinVB | October 27, 2009 3:49 PM | Report abuse

Boy, he's really out of touch with reality, isn't he? That said, with the "promise" of being around the rest of the season, Zorn needs to try to save his job and:

Remove ARE from punt returns.
Sit Portis if he doesn't practice.
Have Thomas return kickoffs.
Get Rhinehart and the rest of last years draft on the field to see if we want to keep them or what their trade value should be.

Lastly, I'm ok with Cooley being put on IR. Even if he can come back the last couple weeks of the season....why should he? We are going NOWHERE! Let Davis and Yoder get some playing time so we can see if we want to hold them for next year. Plus, Cooley will get a break, too.

Posted by: vegasskinsfan | October 27, 2009 3:49 PM | Report abuse

perhaps if Davis didn't get judged on a giggle he'd be better prepared, have gotten more reps

Posted by: BeantownGreg1 | October 27, 2009 3:26 PM | Report abuse

He's not getting judged on being a gigler, he's judged on getting truck'd all night by Trent Cole?

Perhaps if he had a better work ethic and ability to show up on time, he would be a little further along.

He wasn't thought to be a good blocker in college. This isn't new information, once again, Vinny didn't do the proper due diligence.

An All-American TE taken that high, should at least be able to block.

Posted by: ksquare | October 27, 2009 3:39 PM | Report abuse

Posted by: ksquare | October 27, 2009 3:50 PM | Report abuse

Cerrato said. "In the draft there was nobody at 13 worthy of it."

If you're thirsty, do you think it's worth the trip to the store to buy water, even if it might not be cold?

Vinny doesn't understand that beggars can't be chossy.

If he had been adding linemen along the way over a series of years, then he can make the assumption that "...there wasn't anyone worth it at 13...".

But he didn't, so he can't.

Posted by: MistaMoe | October 27, 2009 3:53 PM | Report abuse

"In the draft there was nobody at 13 worthy of it."

How is Oher not worthy of the #13 overall pick? He has been manning the LT spot and held his own against Jared Allen. He has been stellar at RT. Had the Redskins drafted him he could have played RT early in the season and now be the LT of the future.

Brilliant move taking Orakpo!

Posted by: srobert1117 | October 27, 2009 3:53 PM | Report abuse

Vinny is so clueless....in essense he and dan fail to grasp the most basic elements of team construction...have a vision and indenity you want to establish.... develope a solid foundation along the line (both sides) and most importantly have a leader(s) who direct the vision on the field, in the lockerroom and on the practice field.....that my friends is your coach and QB.....

Posted by: OriginalOldschool | October 27, 2009 3:56 PM | Report abuse

" improving day by day"

I hope he's on his last days!

FIRE CERRATO!

Posted by: redryan400 | October 27, 2009 3:56 PM | Report abuse

agree with vegasskinsfan:

def start thomas on kick returns
D-hall on punt returns.
cooley on IR is a good idea

kinda disagree with ksquare, but i see where u comin from:

Fred Davis might be better at blocking if he actually got reps. Lets give him a week or 2 of #1 reps in this offense to see if he can improve. Every time he's been on the field the past 23 games has been as a decoy or a last resort checkdown. He showed me a lot yesterday, and I have hope that can develop into a star on this team with Cooley.

Posted by: kman2 | October 27, 2009 3:57 PM | Report abuse

i want what he is on... what is he on???

Posted by: jimmy_the_crickett | October 27, 2009 3:58 PM | Report abuse

ok, so your roster was cabable of making the playoffs. so the fault then lies w/ the coaching staff right? the very coaching staff THAT YOU HIRED IN THE MOST BASSACKWARDS WAY POSSIBLE. so anyway you slice it, vinny is an epic FAIL.

so no good O lineman was available at 13. got it. orakpo is a good pick, no doubt. so how about you use your second round pick for an O Tackle...what, YOU traded that to miami for jason taylor...whoops

ok, third round pick. no, we need kevin barnes who doesnt even play.

round four...nope traded for 34 year old pete kendall.

round five- traded back to get cody glenn...CUT

maybe a gem of an O Linemen and round 6? nope, twitter happy inactive LB henson

ok, it's getting late, but maybe we find a project. remember that jacoby was undrafted FA. nope, another TE who is on the practice squad.

39 o linemen drafted this year, an average of over 1 per team. we got none. the area of biggest concern and you bring in one FA guard and a 500 lb tackle who hasn't played in 5 years....you look in that mirror vincent...it's a house of horrors.


Posted by: dcsportsfan1 | October 27, 2009 3:58 PM | Report abuse

I would fire Cerrato and Zorn today.

I would approach Tony Dungy and offer him the position of GM or Head Coach (whichever one he wanted, but not both).

Then start rebuilding now - like San Fran did with the Singletary last year. If Dungy wants to be GM, let Jerry Gray be the interim HC. Buges and Sherm can run the offense.

Dungy would bring an instant attitude change.

Posted by: Wemiss21 | October 27, 2009 3:59 PM | Report abuse

How could you possibly understand a single word that Cerrato ever says when his mouth is constantly filled with Dan $nyder's feces and semen?

Posted by: VeloStrummer | October 27, 2009 3:59 PM | Report abuse

i think yesterday D-Thomas would have had a couple of BIG kickoff returns if he was returning. Rock is consistently solid at being a mediocre kick returner. That 40 yard return with the philly personal foul had a huge cutback lane to the left that d-thomas could have hit cuz he's much faster than Rock.

Posted by: kman2 | October 27, 2009 4:00 PM | Report abuse

Yeah ok Oher wasn't worthy of 13 pick....that sums it up to me right there.

Denial is to weak I am going with delusion.

Posted by: chrislarry | October 27, 2009 4:00 PM | Report abuse

I think if Cerrato drafts Offensive lineman in the 1st and 2nd rounds next year then we have a good team. Campbell just needs to trust his line. Sherman Lewis actually called pass plays with Devin Thomas and Fred Davis as the primary receives. He did something Zorn was afraid to do. Sighhhh.

Posted by: narielnasl | October 27, 2009 4:01 PM | Report abuse

I'm in favor of firing Cerrato as much as any Skins fan, believe me - but this blog post is wayyyy too sensationalized. What the heck was Vinny supposed to answer, when asked if the team's roster was capable of making the playoffs? "No, from day 1 there was no way we were going to make the playoffs"??! Are you crazy? Of course he has to say that the team was capable of making the playoffs. No GM in his right mind would ever say otherwise.

Posted by: cali_snowboarder | October 27, 2009 4:01 PM | Report abuse

"I guess where we're standing right now, to have more depth would be great."

YOU GUESS???!!!!

Do you GUESS that given where we're standing right now it would be great to have a different person doing your job?!!??

Posted by: sfskin | October 27, 2009 4:01 PM | Report abuse

Judging from Cerrato's comments I am convinced that the Redskins do not have a drug free workplace policy for the front office.

Why didn't someone ask Vinny why the team didn't get a better backup option at left tackle when they knew Samuels was injury prone AND they knew the man had stenosis?

Why didn't someone ask Vinny how he found Levi Jones when just two weeks before he stated that "there's nobody out there" when asked why they had not signed another offensive lineman?

Why doesn't someone ask Vinny how many players he has worked out this season in his never ending quest to improve the talent level of the team and how that compares to other teams?

Vinny is the laziest, sorriest excuse for a GM that any professional sports team has ever had. I want to see him gone and the job given to a real GM who has the cajones to stand up to Snyder when he wants to go spending major bucks on some past-their-prime player. But, I don't wish Vinny any ill will. I hope Hollywood calls with a job offer on that remake of "Ben".

Posted by: RedSkinHead | October 27, 2009 4:01 PM | Report abuse

Now to be fair. It's tough to tell Vinny's tone. I have to believe he was utilizing what is know as sarcasm. It's the only acceptable rationale for his comments.

Posted by: Diesel44 | October 27, 2009 4:03 PM | Report abuse

The Redskins appear to be staffed with their very own "Baghdad Bob." What a maroon.

Posted by: acoberst1 | October 27, 2009 4:03 PM | Report abuse

Davis was prone to giggling in meetings as a rookie, league sources said, and has failed to inspire confidence or consistently demonstrate a command of the playbook.

ksquared, he's not getting judged on giggling?? really?? try again??

"and ability to show up on time" - awesome...guy oversleeps in training camp in 2008, and you STILL can't let it go...

How about, the first time Davis got run over they made note of it, and put Yoder in to block?? Wouldn't that have been more prudent...

Your not letting go of the alarm clock thing is just absolutely priceless...

Posted by: BeantownGreg1 | October 27, 2009 4:03 PM | Report abuse

AAAAAAAIIIIIIIIIYYYYYYYEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE!!!!!!

Posted by: TheCork | October 27, 2009 4:03 PM | Report abuse

This just goes to show how bad Vinny is at evaluating talent.

Let's examine this rationally. If we have playoff talent, than that means we have better talent than at least two other NFC East teams (at a minimum).

So, without further ado:

QB - No contest, even when JC was playing well, he does not have the ability of McNabb, Romo, or Manning. 4th

WRs - Moss, El vs.... Austen, Williams, vs Jackson, Maclin, vs Smith, Manningham. Maybe on paper we can get into 2nd, but no better. 2nd

Oline - even before all the injuries, Giants and Dallas were solid, and Iggles had some turnover but are HUUUUGE up front. 3rd (when healthy) at best.

RBs - Portis vs. Westbrook, Jacobs, and Barber, its hard to tell straight up. But Portis is oft injured, old, and not a bruiser. Love his heart, but even if he's #1 it aint by much. 1st just because

TE's - Cooley is great. No doubt. But he's not head and shoulders above Witten, Celek, or Boss, and markedly worse in the run game. 1st because I like the hairdo

Onto D:

D-line: Even with the upgrade, I think the Giants got us, Dallas' Ratliff is a beast, and the Eagles always seem to find good run stoppers. 2nd at best

LBs: This one is tough, but I'll put us 2nd, because the Cowgirls have Brooking and Ware. 2nd.

Corners: DHall and Rogers don't scare anyone. neither can make an argument to be better than Newman, Webster, or Samuel, so the group is already behind the chains. 4th.

Safeties: Horton and Landry are over rated. Period. Maybe we have a leg up on the Cowboys, and Eagles, but not the Giants. 2nd.

Special Teams: Do we even need to go here? This has been a problem for years.

On paper, we WERE no better than 4th offensively, maybe 2nd defensively. Enough to beat up on the dregs we have played thus far? Sure, we have talent to be 5-2. But playoffs? That would mean 5-4 the rest of the way? No chance. None. Zippo. Nada.

Posted by: mattsoundworld | October 27, 2009 4:03 PM | Report abuse

If everybody on the team - okay, at least every key player - had careeer years, yeah they're a playoff team. E.g., 9-7.

But you can say that about 2/3s of the teams in the league.

"If everything breaks right".....but it rarely if ever does.

Posted by: SteveMG | October 27, 2009 4:04 PM | Report abuse

"Brilliant move taking Orakpo!"

Well, Orakpo ain't no slouch, brother.

Dude might be Terrel Suggs in 3-4 seasons.

But the issue is denying what you want to get what you need: the team needed tackles, but wanted the 'sexy' strongside linebacker pick.

Chris Wilson might just as good as Orakpo at slb: so it begs why did they switch him to a position they intended to draft a player for when they needed a tackle?

If they'd taken either Phil Loadholdt or Micheal Oher at 13, folks would've snickered, but are outright laughing now that they didn't.

Posted by: MistaMoe | October 27, 2009 4:04 PM | Report abuse

Cerrato included, he said. "I got to look at myself, we got to look at everybody and we got to just go out now and you know what you got to do -- you got to get to better day to day, week to week," he said. "And that's what it's about, it's about improving each game. It's one game at a time, one day at a time."


Poor Grammar and cliches are expected from your RB maybe. But from your GM?

Posted by: Gweez | October 27, 2009 4:04 PM | Report abuse

The punt bouncing off of his face mask and the 4th and goal snap from hell reminded me of the Tyler Perry gasser, "I Can Do Bad All By Myself".

Posted by: LittleGreenBag | October 27, 2009 4:04 PM | Report abuse

scroll down for where the podcast is on zorn. this is a show host down here in NC

http://twitter.com/bomani_jones

Posted by: swalker5 | October 27, 2009 4:04 PM | Report abuse

If Fred Davis actually ***was*** Cerrato's pick. That was a good move on his part. This guy really can block, probably a lot better than Cooley, if given the chance. And he appears to be better at handling himself in a crowd. It was the only pick of the three that I considered reasonable.

As far as OL. C'mon, Vinny that's pretty frickin' ridiculous. You have to draft these lineman. They aren't going to be available any other way. Samuels was a 1st round draft pick. Yeah so Gibbs went out and got Thomas from the Jets. You also had Jansen who was another high draft pick on the other side. Dockery is a draft pick. In San Francisco they drafted OL they didn't sign them off the waiver wire. Vinny you now really sound like a idiot.

Posted by: periculum | October 27, 2009 4:05 PM | Report abuse

Cerrato must go, BUT...

There IS talent on this roster.

Enough so that - based on who they've played so far - they should be 4-3 right now at minimum, more likely 5-2.

The coaching and QBing sucks, and the injuries (Thomas and Samuels) to an already shaky O-line are what have them at 2-5.

Posted by: MrRedskin21 | October 27, 2009 4:06 PM | Report abuse

I think if you asked GM of Detroit they wouldn't declare their roster is hands down playoff caliber.

For crying out loud this isn't freaking kindergarten and we're not 5 years old. A good many of us didn't expect this team to make the playoffs this year. I don't think any preseason rankings and predictions had us there either.

Posted by: sfskin | October 27, 2009 4:07 PM | Report abuse

" No backup Pro Bowlers in this league"

Yes Vinny we know, that is why its the GM's job to evaluate talent and use his knowledge of the game to draft kids who will turn out to be pro bowlers or good players. Then you have backups of your own and you don't have these problems. Sadly, you have traded away our picks, haven't drafted well at key positions and now one of the proudest franchises in the NFL looks like a joke. FIRE CERRATO!

Posted by: redryan400 | October 27, 2009 4:07 PM | Report abuse

YOU LIE!!!

Posted by: LouLewis | October 27, 2009 4:07 PM | Report abuse

FIRE THIS IDIOT NOW!!!! HIRE A TRUE GM!!! SNYDER STAY OUT OF FOOTBALL OPERATIONS YOU LITTLE NERD!!! EVERYONE KNEW THE OFFENSIVE LINE WAS OLD WITH NO DEPTH!!! WHY DIDN'T THESE MORONS????

Posted by: BarackObama | October 27, 2009 4:08 PM | Report abuse

call me crazy, but i'd guess maybe 70-80% of the time the eagles blitzed, i was able to know EXACTLY where the blitzes were coming from. why didn't Campbell call the blitzes to his linemen and adjust the blocking? at least 3 or 4 times the RB was lining up on the left side of a shotgun when the blitz was CLEARLY coming from the right, or vice versa!

Posted by: kman2 | October 27, 2009 3:49 PM | Report abuse
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I got from the broadcast that the Skins DO NOT have an audible system (which surprised me). I don't get to see many games up here in CT, so what do I know? I figured every team above PeeWee has audibles. But not us.

Posted by: mattsoundworld | October 27, 2009 4:09 PM | Report abuse

Cerrato: Roster was capable of reaching playoffs

etrod: Cerrato is a f*cktard

Posted by: Original_etrod | October 27, 2009 4:09 PM | Report abuse

Yeah ok Oher wasn't worthy of 13 pick....that sums it up to me right there.

Denial is to weak I am going with delusion.

Posted by: chrislarry | October 27, 2009 4:00 PM | Report abuse

The truth is that we needed Orakpo and Barnes and the linemen. We just didn't have enough picks to fill our needs. we traded them away. This team kept trading picks to get better now instead of worrying about tomorrow. Well, guess what? It is tomorrow!!

Posted by: PAskinsfan17 | October 27, 2009 4:09 PM | Report abuse

"I feel like my job's on the line all the time," he said. "It's not something that I really worry about. My job is to get us going, to fill these holes when guys get hurt. Things take care of themselves after the season. I don't worry about those things."

How about you actually do your job and start worrying about things? Better yet, get the F out of DC and never come back.

Posted by: Moose33 | October 27, 2009 4:10 PM | Report abuse

"With Randy, we anticipated not going 16 games," Cerrato said. "We anticipated that part."


And what did you do in anticipation of this debacle? Rhino? Montgomery?

Whatevs.

Posted by: 4-12 | October 27, 2009 4:10 PM | Report abuse

Now to be fair. It's tough to tell Vinny's tone. I have to believe he was utilizing what is know as sarcasm. It's the only acceptable rationale for his comments.

Posted by: Diesel44


Good point. RI failed to acknowledge that Vinny's last words at the presser were "Waitresses work for tips. Try the veal."

Posted by: TheCork | October 27, 2009 4:11 PM | Report abuse

If Cerrato truly believes that the Redskins current roster was capable of making the playoffs, then he is even more clueless than I imagined.

Posted by: Storis38 | October 27, 2009 4:11 PM | Report abuse

At this point who do you think is a worse GM Vinny Cerrato or Matt Millen?

Posted by: PortisPocketsStr8 | October 27, 2009 4:12 PM | Report abuse

call me crazy, but i'd guess maybe 70-80% of the time the eagles blitzed, i was able to know EXACTLY where the blitzes were coming from. why didn't Campbell call the blitzes to his linemen and adjust the blocking? at least 3 or 4 times the RB was lining up on the left side
Posted by: kman2

Not sure you know what goes into blitz pickup or recognize what zone blitz schemes are. The protections were designed okay - but they don't account for Heyer whiffing on his man several times, Casey missing the LB up the middle on a three step drop or MW falling down before engaging his man etc. You sound like Vinny - the OL is not okay and no offensive scheme or collection of talent in the NFL can work without at least an average OL.

Posted by: geotherm21 | October 27, 2009 4:12 PM | Report abuse

Let's go Caps!

Posted by: chitownskinsfan1 | October 27, 2009 4:13 PM | Report abuse

I just ate lunch and then read the bull Cerrato said. Makes me want to throw up. What a bunch of junk, if he thinks there was any good that came out of that game last night. And he really is crazy to think he has given this team what it needs to win from an O-line standpoint. Whom ever the person was that said it's a philosophy of the the Redskins not to draft O-linemen apparently knows what they are talking about. I heard Vinny myself say they don't draft for needs, but they take the best player left on the board when they are up to pick. That's has worked out only once in ten years when they drafted Sean Taylor.
Remember they thought that punter was the best player on the board, the one they had to let go about midway through last season. By his own comments Vinny shows he is an incompentent jerk and that makes Danny boy even worse because he listens to what Vinny tells him and he acts on it. As long as Vinny is around and Danny is too full of ignorance and "PRIDE" the Skins are doomed. I'll be back on board as soon as Danny realizes he is selfish and has no football knowledge, then fires Vinny and hires a GM who knows how to build a team and let him do so. Until then I want have a NFL team if I'm not rooting for the Skins, so I'll be waiting. Something deep down inside tells me that I'll be waiting for a long, long, long time.

Posted by: rmilton | October 27, 2009 4:14 PM | Report abuse

The truth is that we needed Orakpo and Barnes and the linemen.

No, not really. Chris Wilson remember him? And they cut Rob Jackson because Cerrato drafted Jarmon. How many frickin' DL do you need? After signing Haynesworth? Not that many that's for damned sure. They needed two Offensive tackles a whole hell of a lot more as many of us stated on this blog. But like you Snyder had to have his 'beasts', his pass rush, not understanding Blache's 4-3 defense. Idiots!

Posted by: periculum | October 27, 2009 4:14 PM | Report abuse

Your not letting go of the alarm clock thing is just absolutely priceless...

Posted by: BeantownGreg1 | October 27, 2009 4:03 PM | Report abuse

Beaner, the alarm clock thing wasn't just a one time deal. He was regularly late to practices and meetings.

It's a fact his attitude and work ethic were a question mark, when he was drafted.

He's been here over a year now.

That he can't learn how to properly block or understand the importantance of blocking is what's absolutely priceless.

Posted by: ksquare | October 27, 2009 4:14 PM | Report abuse

Everything, and everyone, in the organization must be evaluated after the season -- Cerrato included, he said. "I got to look at myself..." he said.

POSTED BY RI

This is my favorite Alice in Wonderland moment. I wonder if Vinny will do a careful analysis and when all is said and done decide not to fire Vinny Cerrato.

Posted by: TheCork | October 27, 2009 4:15 PM | Report abuse

At this point who do you think is a worse GM Vinny Cerrato or Matt Millen?

Snyder.

Posted by: periculum | October 27, 2009 4:15 PM | Report abuse

CERRATO HAS BEEN SMOKING THAT SNYDER'S CRIZACK!!!!
REBUILDING IS NOW!!!
DANNY BOY...FIRE YES-MANRRATO!!! HIRE A REAL GM!!!

Posted by: dpena75 | October 27, 2009 4:16 PM | Report abuse

When you have 3 second round picks, you can re-make a team. Not saying you get 3 linemen, but maybe one pass catcher and 2 linemen. Instead of spending $100 million on Albert Haynesworth (not saying he's a bust at all...he's a force!), why not spend $30 million for Chris Canty (not a gamechanger per se, but still an upgrade)and get two more linemen? It's just a screwed up philosophy all around. Build depth.

I was playing Madden '00 and looking at the Redskins roster for the last year before Danny had input, and not coincidentally our last division championship year. We didn't have superstars on the offensive line, but we had several competent offensive linemen at every position. Even behind Stubby and Wilkinson, we had Marc Boutte, who was a decent tackle.

Posted by: DocHolliday1906 | October 27, 2009 4:16 PM | Report abuse

Good to see Our Dear Leader Kim Il Snyder is really focusing on what matters i.e. squashing free expression in FedEx.

Maybe they can hand out placards and train the fans to flip them over on cue and it will say "We provided you with a roster that can reach the postseason."

Posted by: sfskin | October 27, 2009 4:17 PM | Report abuse

I saw this posting started at 3:18. I thought since it was less than an hour old, I would only have to scroll down a little to place a message. HA! Vinny the village idiot surely draws a crowd! (never argue with a crazy person. Vinny or Danny)

Posted by: 1of9000 | October 27, 2009 4:17 PM | Report abuse

mattsoundworld - like that analysis, but you were overly generous at RB, LB and secondary. Portis and our duo of RBs are no where near Dallas' trio. Westbrook tends to beat teams by himself, and Jacobs and the small quick guy in NY tend to dominate too. Our secondary has better names, but our performance is poor. They never shut down in key moments and they tend to get lazy at times. last night philly easily exploited us. I like our LBs but Orakpo is out of position, he should be a true DE. Other than that they don't make plays like the other teams do be it fumbles, sacks, etc.

The key variable of why we are also not playoff caliber is coaching and management. We get out coached weekly. We've been getting out coached for most of the past 10-years too. Snyder and Cerrato should be seeing that 1st and foremost as tehy run this organization. Our mentality as an organization is inferior as well. No one our team fears their job. The way Carlos Rogers played last night, he should be cleaning his locker right now.

Posted by: oknow1 | October 27, 2009 4:17 PM | Report abuse

Beaner, the alarm clock thing wasn't just a one time deal. He was regularly late to practices and meetings.

Got something to back up this claim you've made??

Posted by: BeantownGreg1 | October 27, 2009 4:18 PM | Report abuse

No, not really. Chris Wilson remember him? And they cut Rob Jackson because Cerrato drafted Jarmon. How many frickin' DL do you need? After signing Haynesworth? Not that many that's for damned sure. They needed two Offensive tackles a whole hell of a lot more as many of us stated on this blog. But like you Snyder had to have his 'beasts', his pass rush, not understanding Blache's 4-3 defense. Idiots!

Posted by: periculum | October 27, 2009 4:14 PM | Report abuse

We didn't have Jarmon, Daniels, or wynn at that point and Wilson wasn't yet converted to linebacker.

Posted by: PAskinsfan17 | October 27, 2009 4:18 PM | Report abuse

Cerrato: kind of like if the Nats said they didn't need pitchers only a bunch of power hitters like Dunn. They would easily make up for the lack of pitching. Yeah, right Vinny ... sheesh. DL making up for the complete absence of OL. Cretin, imbecile.

Posted by: periculum | October 27, 2009 4:18 PM | Report abuse

Paragraphs 4 and 5 are the most cut-n-pasted paragraphs in the history of cut-n-pasting...

Not that they're *wrong*, mind you...

Posted by: JohnnyRyde
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It is pretty annoying how JReid writes every article as if people are reading about the Redskins for the first time. I think he aught to know the people that do read the blog probably do so every day and have seen him repeat things over and over.

Posted by: REXskins | October 27, 2009 4:19 PM | Report abuse

"When asked if he felt he provided Coach Jim Zorn with a roster capable of reaching the postseason, Cerrato said, "Yes." When asked to repeat that, Cerrato replied, "yes," again."

"Wha-wha-whaaaaaat?!?!?!?!"
-Marge Simpson

Posted by: gatorskinz2000 | October 27, 2009 4:20 PM | Report abuse

In all fairness, the vast majority of us here thought we were going to the playoffs this year - myself included.

But clearly we aren't. This offense has been outed as a colossal failure that has been poorly built from the foundation on up.

Heads should roll, and Vinny should be first in line. It's that simple.

Posted by: p1funk | October 27, 2009 4:20 PM | Report abuse

Cerrato: Roster was capable of reaching playoffs
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LOL, LOL, LOL, LOL, LOL, LOL, BIG LMAO.

Cerrato must really think the rest of us are stupid. Either that or he's living in La-La Land.

Posted by: sjcsando | October 27, 2009 4:20 PM | Report abuse

The problem was not the 13th pick, remember the 2nd round pick they threw away for Jason Taylor!!!

That's the BS that has this team in last place. One year for Jason Taylor, meanwhile that second round pick will be a multi-year contributor for them.

BTW, with the no cap year Cerrato stays. Snyder is buying a championship this offseason. Some OL are about to get paid to come to DC.

Posted by: oknow1 | October 27, 2009 4:22 PM | Report abuse

He thought this was a playoff roster, but told ESPN that he thought we would be 3-3 in the creampuff part of our schedule?

WTF?

Posted by: RedBee | October 27, 2009 4:23 PM | Report abuse

"That he (Fred Davis)can't learn how to properly block or understand the importance of blocking is what's absolutely priceless."

Who drafts a tight end with a second round pick hoping he's a great blocker?

I bet when Tony Gonzalez got traded to the Falcons, Matt Ryan though, "Great, another blocker!"

Todd Yoder, Mike Sellars: let them block.

Split Davis wide a la Witten/Clark and let a linebacker or strong safety try to run with him.

Then you'll see the value of Fred Davis.

Posted by: MistaMoe | October 27, 2009 4:23 PM | Report abuse

i think yesterday D-Thomas would have had a couple of BIG kickoff returns if he was returning. Rock is consistently solid at being a mediocre kick returner. That 40 yard return with the philly personal foul had a huge cutback lane to the left that d-thomas could have hit cuz he's much faster than Rock.

Posted by: kman2 | October 27, 2009 4:00 PM

Rock is underrated. Did you see his run down to the three yard line? He needs to get more of an opportunity at RB.

Posted by: skinfanman | October 27, 2009 4:24 PM | Report abuse

this is proof that cerrato doesn't have about was he's doing.this shows that Daniel Stalin needs to fire him and bring back beathard or casserly as GM.Ah hell just sell the team.

Posted by: xpac69 | October 27, 2009 4:24 PM | Report abuse

1. Roster is overrated and bloated with bad contracts.
2. Coaches are worse
3. The person picking the players and coaches is an incompetent, insufferable moron who deserves 90% of the blame.

Posted by: Diesel44 | October 27, 2009 4:25 PM | Report abuse

oops i meant cerrato doesn't have a clue about what he's doing.

Posted by: xpac69 | October 27, 2009 4:26 PM | Report abuse

In all fairness, the vast majority of us here thought we were going to the playoffs this year - myself included.

But clearly we aren't. This offense has been outed as a colossal failure that has been poorly built from the foundation on up.

Heads should roll, and Vinny should be first in line. It's that simple.

Posted by: p1funk | October 27, 2009 4:20 PM | Report abuse
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Certainly I wasn't down for 2-5 at this point, but I didn't think we were better than the Giants and Cowboys. The Eagles ripped apart their lines and blew up some veterans, so I expected them to be in the cellar, but any rational examination of the talent in the preseason would not make us favorites.

Once you compare our 'talent' to other teams, the luster starts to wear off.

Posted by: mattsoundworld | October 27, 2009 4:26 PM | Report abuse

Cerrato: Roster was capable of reaching playoffs

Was Vinny doing standup at the Improv when he said this.

Unbelievable.

Posted by: Predator48 | October 27, 2009 4:26 PM | Report abuse

If you haven't read the sportsbog posts on the signs at the stadium go because this is unbe-SJKIng-lievable.

http://voices.washingtonpost.com/dcsportsbog/2009/10/signs_banned_at_fedex_field.html#more

I wish oh wish oh wish 50,000 would show up at FedEx on 11/15 with shirts and signs all against Snyder and Cerrato.

ESPN showed the fans holding up "Unconditional Love" sign last night guess that sign isn't "dangerous" or won't "block fans view"

!@#_*$@)#(*$)@#(*$)@#*$)@#*$_)!@#*$_!@_!@*$_)!@#*$_!@*$_!@#(_@!*$!)#(@*$@_)#*$(!@_)$#(

Posted by: sfskin | October 27, 2009 4:26 PM | Report abuse

Cerrato is not realistic in his aspirations
of turning the Skins into a contender. His formula would be good it was used to play
in "Fantasy Football". If he is true to himself, he would know by now, that his plan is not working. Because some of the
players think he is a "Fluke" & wannabe GM,
with great ideas, but unfortunately, the ideas are going nowhere. Go Skins??

Posted by: madalao | October 27, 2009 4:27 PM | Report abuse

Yeah ok Oher wasn't worthy of 13 pick....that sums it up to me right there.

Denial is to weak I am going with delusion.

Posted by: chrislarry |

The truth is that we needed Orakpo and Barnes and the linemen. We just didn't have enough picks to fill our needs. we traded them away. This team kept trading picks to get better now instead of worrying about tomorrow. Well, guess what? It is tomorrow!!

Posted by: PAskinsfan17

no doubt paskins, but Cerratto should nut up and say we went with another need at 13, to claim you didn't view Oher as a legit 13 pick, even if you chose another way, retarted. Dude is legit and was graded top 5 by some people.

Posted by: chrislarry | October 27, 2009 4:27 PM | Report abuse

Last night the Eagles beat us playing with a rookie running back, rookie WR, second year WR, 3rd year TE, a LB that arrived on their team last week, and an O-line with multiple new faces...oh, and their long-time D-coordinator died right before the season began.

It irks me to not just habitually lose to our rivals, but to see how they build an organizational and team culture of competence and success.

Our operation, on the other hand, is a total joke from top to bottom.

Posted by: p1funk | October 27, 2009 4:27 PM | Report abuse

Thats why should be GONE

Posted by: LongTimeSkinsFan | October 27, 2009 4:29 PM | Report abuse

hey next game someone should wear a shirt that says Daniel Stalin must go.

Posted by: xpac69 | October 27, 2009 4:30 PM | Report abuse

I'll have to say that I really don't like Danny's boy as GM. He has made some bone headed moves (but then again so did Gibbs - seriously!!).

I'm sure in his mind he thought he upgraded the Oline by bringing in Dockery. He took a flyer on BMW which might pan out. But he obviously didn't shore it up enough especially if you consider that even when healthy we didn't have the greatest of lines...

The mistake was taking three receivers in the 2nd round last year. One - good choice, it was definitely needed. Two - wow, not sure that the one you just took would help you???. The third - a bit crazy (kinda like all the DL we have now).

He has made some good moves. I think the Jarmon pick will have been a good move. Same with Orakpo. But not finding a good OL in the past two drafts (and it's fair to say Rhinehart's a bust now) is definitely a BIG problem. Which will spill over to the future and tie the hands of the next GM....

Posted by: carocanesfan | October 27, 2009 4:30 PM | Report abuse

If you haven't gone over and read today's posts on Steinberg's D.C. Sports Bog today, you really need to.


Can we start referring to Snyder as Chairman Dan? Mao Tse Snyder, perhaps?

Posted by: freakzilla | October 27, 2009 4:30 PM | Report abuse

Last night the Eagles beat us playing with a rookie running back, rookie WR, second year WR, 3rd year TE, a LB that arrived on their team last week, and an O-line with multiple new faces...oh, and their long-time D-coordinator died right before the season began.

It irks me to not just habitually lose to our rivals, but to see how they build an organizational and team culture of competence and success.

Our operation, on the other hand, is a total joke from top to bottom.

Posted by: p1funk | October 27, 2009 4:27 PM

That's it that's the list...

Posted by: Diesel44 | October 27, 2009 4:31 PM | Report abuse

But clearly we aren't. This offense has been outed as a colossal failure that has been poorly built from the foundation on up.

Heads should roll, and Vinny should be first in line. It's that simple.

Posted by: p1funk | October 27, 2009 4:20 PM | Report abuse
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I wouldn't say that the offense was poorly built from the foundation. It was built for a completely different system, not the WCO, and on top of that, those personnel have now gotten old and brittle. These players are for the most part good, talented players, but 3 years ago and not for the WCO. Gibbs brought all of the skill position players in for an offense that relied on the power run to set up the long ball downfield. You can't let those type of players get old and then throw them into the WCO, which is totally different. As we all know, Cerrato is at fault - he's obviously too stupid to recognize this (among many other things he's failed at). Just my (respectful) opinion.

Posted by: skinsfan713 | October 27, 2009 4:31 PM | Report abuse

"i think yesterday D-Thomas would have had a couple of BIG kickoff returns if he was returning. Rock is consistently solid at being a mediocre kick returner. That 40 yard return with the philly personal foul had a huge cutback lane to the left that d-thomas could have hit cuz he's much faster than Rock.

Posted by: kman2 | October 27, 2009 4:00 PM

Rock is underrated. Did you see his run down to the three yard line? He needs to get more of an opportunity at RB."

I actually agree with both y'all less Rock on KO (as in none) and more carries at RB.

Posted by: chrislarry | October 27, 2009 4:32 PM | Report abuse

no call him Daniel Stalin cause hes like a little dictator.

Posted by: xpac69 | October 27, 2009 4:32 PM | Report abuse

no doubt paskins, but Cerratto should nut up and say we went with another need at 13, to claim you didn't view Oher as a legit 13 pick, even if you chose another way, retarted. Dude is legit and was graded top 5 by some people.

Posted by: chrislarry | October 27, 2009 4:27 PM | Report abuse

I agree, let's face it. If Orakpo didn't fall to #13 then we better have picked Oher. There would have been a riot if we didn't. we liked the Orakpo pick because it filled 2 needs at once. We needed a legit DE and a SLB. The Barnes pick was obviously a replacement for carlos rogers. We need more picks. we traded the picks away that we could have used to draft Phil Loadholt and Duke Robinson. That's the real issue. Past bad trades have left us crippling. We mortgaged the future to make a couple crappy playoff appearences. This is why you only make those trades if you truly are only a player or two away.

Posted by: PAskinsfan17 | October 27, 2009 4:32 PM | Report abuse

I am officially pirating a good thing and referring to the present owner as 'Dear Leader' or Dan Snyd-il. The VP of FO shall continue to be referred to, where possible, as Chief Wiener Locker.

Posted by: mattsoundworld | October 27, 2009 4:32 PM | Report abuse

Any 'dcsween' sightings today? Wondering how it went for him at the game with his "Jasno was rite Vinie, your an idiot" sign.

Posted by: 4-12 | October 27, 2009 4:35 PM | Report abuse

beep beep

Posted by: mattylight | October 27, 2009 4:35 PM | Report abuse

In all fairness, the vast majority of us here thought we were going to the playoffs this year - myself included.

But clearly we aren't. This offense has been outed as a colossal failure that has been poorly built from the foundation on up.

Heads should roll, and Vinny should be first in line. It's that simple.

Posted by: p1funk | October 27, 2009 4:20 PM | Report abuse
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Certainly I wasn't down for 2-5 at this point, but I didn't think we were better than the Giants and Cowboys. The Eagles ripped apart their lines and blew up some veterans, so I expected them to be in the cellar, but any rational examination of the talent in the preseason would not make us favorites.

Once you compare our 'talent' to other teams, the luster starts to wear off.

Posted by: mattsoundworld | October 27, 2009 4:26 PM | Report abuse


We were 8-8 last year, and we improved the defense.

We figured that simply being in year 2 of the same offense would give us a boost.

When we coupled this with a weak/favorable schedule alot of folks were up here saying 10-6 and 11-5.

It was all Fool's gold and we bought it.

Our cognitive dissonance kicked into full gear, even though we knew our O-line was seriously faulty.

We knew deep down that Portis was finished, but few of us acknowledged it.

We hoped, with little actual reason to do so, that our young pass catchers would blossom.

We bought the Fool's Gold...now it's time for our broke-arses to pull a possee together and take down the clown that sold it to us...

Posted by: p1funk | October 27, 2009 4:36 PM | Report abuse

CerRATo is easily the worst GM to have ever disgraced the NFL. Oher was/is worthy of a pick at #13 and given the skins o-line problems an obvious pick. Ok, so they hate taking o-linemen in the draft (why I don't know). I can understand (not really)that but to say this was a playoff roster is insulting to every Skins fan. We know this team sucks, the national media knows this team sucks, how is it that you don't Vinny? Because YOU SUCK.

Posted by: MississippiSkinsFan | October 27, 2009 4:37 PM | Report abuse

"...the best teams in the league constantly replenish their offensive lines," the league executive said.

So is Vinnie Goombatz saying that it's OK to have a philosophy to not draft Offensive Linemen, even if it's wrong?

Danny, please get him out of there and hire a Coach/GM with the cajones to stand up to you and make good football decisions.

Posted by: StevefromSacto | October 27, 2009 4:38 PM | Report abuse

I blame the Racquetball Partner's Union. Without them Snyder would have canned Vinny long go.

Posted by: mack1 | October 27, 2009 4:38 PM | Report abuse

I absolutely hate this guy, the more he talks the more I do, and when I saw him on ESPN for the game it mad me violently angry, I really would love to meet him once just so I could punch square on the nose, it'd be worth the assault charge.

Posted by: zjfr2 | October 27, 2009 4:39 PM | Report abuse

What in the world has Cerrato been smoking? An NFL team is as good as its backups. Is he telling us that Stephon Heyer, Mike Williams, Will Montgomery, Edwin Williams, et al, are good enough to take a team to the playoffs. Please, Mr. Snyder, you have to do what is right and replace your Vice President of Football Operations with a football man. Cerrato at the helm will be more embarrasing for you in future years.

Posted by: getitritegov | October 27, 2009 4:39 PM | Report abuse

Cerrato described the first seven weeks of the season as "frustrating" and "disappointing," saying this "is not where we expected to be." Cerrato is in charge of planning and implementing every aspect of the team's football strategy the last two seasons and that includes assembling an offensive line that one longtime NFL executive on another team recently described as one of the worst in the league

Did this executive point out to you he has built a top 5 deffense and a solid special teams?


At this point who do you think is a worse GM Vinny Cerrato or Matt Millen?

Posted by: PortisPocketsStr8 | October 27, 2009 4:12 PM | Report abuse

You're stupid

Posted by: jumbo5383 | October 27, 2009 4:42 PM | Report abuse

Of course, what VC fails to mention are the numerous draft picks they've given away over the years in trades that have not panned out, his own poor drafing the past few seasons and the myriad FA signings that have gone splat. The ship has hit the iceberg and Synderatto are like Billy Zane tossing orphans and women out of the way trying to get on one of the life boats.

As a lifelong fan it saddens me to see the gestapo tactics of tearing up signs and forcing fans (at the threat of expulsion) to flip their t-shirts inside out. The fan base will not tolerate this kind of stuff indefinitely.

Posted by: terrapin31590us | October 27, 2009 4:45 PM | Report abuse

did you see where steinburg said they took a ladies sign that said to my husband in afghanistan.i love you and threw it away.Daniel Stalin is a real deusche.

Posted by: xpac69 | October 27, 2009 4:46 PM | Report abuse

Posted by: tdskinz | October 27, 2009 4:49 PM | Report abuse

pardon the language,but thats proof that the nfl has to step in and do something,cause thats heartless.

Posted by: xpac69 | October 27, 2009 4:50 PM | Report abuse

OK, Where have you been Burritos...are you watching the same game as everyone else? Come out of the closest...

Posted by: MYPOST10 | October 27, 2009 4:54 PM | Report abuse

just curious...can anyone tell me how many actual scouts this team has? it's not tough to scout the big name as vinny has shown. coming out of school EVERYONE knew that kelly's knee was balky, thomas was a head case and davis had the work ethic of a sloth. most of vinny's draft picks can't get on the field...and the 'skins are 2-5!!! bye bye vin man..espn won't even hire you back....

Posted by: natman19 | October 27, 2009 4:56 PM | Report abuse

all i have to say is: adam archuletta, brandon lloyd, jason taylor, chad rinehart

Posted by: hezbollaskins | October 27, 2009 5:01 PM | Report abuse

If Samuels goes on IR they should sign Runyan and move BMW to RG...Heyer and Montgomery to the bench...

Posted by: jcnjcnj | October 27, 2009 5:02 PM | Report abuse

you forgot stewart schweigert

Posted by: xpac69 | October 27, 2009 5:02 PM | Report abuse

oh yeah and deion and then the bailey for portis trade.

Posted by: xpac69 | October 27, 2009 5:04 PM | Report abuse

Hell, I'm capable of reaching the playoffs, too. I've got air miles and government ID and besides, Boston and New York are on the Chinatown bus routes.

Posted by: osiuerer | October 27, 2009 5:05 PM | Report abuse

Boycott all advertisers and sponsors of redskin games. and tell them why. we will not support those that trample on free speech rights.

Posted by: californicationdude | October 27, 2009 5:05 PM | Report abuse

How is Oher not worthy of the #13 overall pick? He has been manning the LT spot and held his own against Jared Allen...

You must have been reading Oher's comments...he was trashed by Allen

Posted by: jcnjcnj | October 27, 2009 5:06 PM | Report abuse

the only thing they got right was london fletcher andre carter and santana moss.

Posted by: xpac69 | October 27, 2009 5:06 PM | Report abuse

Cerrato clearly lacks the talent necessary to be a good let alone great GM. His thinking is irretrievably cloudy, which is why he's illogical and inarticulate. Brains matter. Let's see if Snyder has enough to hire a smart GM. My guess is that Snyder is way too stupid.

Posted by: chris_zz | October 27, 2009 5:10 PM | Report abuse

"We added Dockery, we added Mike Williams and we attempted to," Cerrato said. "In the draft there was nobody at 13 worthy of it.
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Dockery = good move.

Mike Williams = act of utter desperation.

I tend to disagree with Vinny that there were no O-linemen worthy of the 13th pick in the 2009 draft. Regardless, what about O-linemen in the early rounds(rounds 1 - 3)of the 2001, 2002, 2003, 2004, 2005, 2006, 2007 (other than busted/wasted pick Chad Rinehart out of 1AA Northern Iowa) and 2008? The only O-linemen that the Redskins have taken in the first 3 rounds since 2000 have been Samuels and 1AA Chad Rinehart.

Posted by: SkinsKen | October 27, 2009 5:12 PM | Report abuse

The whole organization is clueless, and this numb skull is a perfect example of it. What? Not linemen worthy of number 13? Trade down dummy.

Here's a question, how bad must Rheinhardt be that he can't crack this line up?

Go CAPS! That's an organization with a plan of action and leadership in the front office and the owners suite.

Posted by: tkoho | October 27, 2009 5:13 PM | Report abuse

"but I thought Sherm provided a spark and I think the offense did some good things".

What the $*&# is he talking about?!!! We looked like $h!%

Posted by: 550iDC | October 27, 2009 5:18 PM | Report abuse

what an idiot!

Posted by: Phillip258 | October 27, 2009 5:26 PM | Report abuse

OMG - I just saw this posting...

OMG he thinks the roster could make the playoffs? With that offensive line.

What an idiot.

Oh no. We are cursed. Red Sox / Cubs type of curse.

Hail to the memory of the Redskins I love.

Boo to the Snyderrato team. Move away so we can get an expansion franchise.

BOOOOOOOOOOOO

Posted by: rsskinsfan | October 27, 2009 5:28 PM | Report abuse

still cant belive this posting.

BOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

Posted by: rsskinsfan | October 27, 2009 5:30 PM | Report abuse

I wonder what would be if they would have kept Jeremy Bridges and signed Levi Jones after Randy Thomas got injured instead of signing more running backs and Renaldo Wynn.. I would take Jeremy Bridges over Montgomery anyday! And Levi Jones over Stephone Heyer anyday as well!!!

Posted by: WilliamsJohn1666 | October 27, 2009 5:32 PM | Report abuse

You have got to be kinding me. How many bombs can these moron's drop for christ's sakes.

Posted by: hessone | October 27, 2009 5:45 PM | Report abuse

You have got to be kidding me. How many bombs can these moron's drop for christ's sakes.

Posted by: hessone | October 27, 2009 5:46 PM | Report abuse

Dude is on some serious crack.

OMFG!

- Ray

Posted by: rmcazz | October 27, 2009 5:47 PM | Report abuse

Obama needs to INTERVENE and FIX this mess.....

Posted by: iamasofaking | October 27, 2009 5:56 PM | Report abuse

Vinny continually reinforces the notion that he is indeed, the village idiot.

Posted by: dashriprock | October 27, 2009 5:57 PM | Report abuse

Vinny continually reinforces the notion that he is indeed, the village idiot.

Posted by: dashriprock | October 27, 2009 5:58 PM | Report abuse

Mr.$nyder,
You can't prohibit what I am going to post right here and right now. Freedom of Speech is something our brave men and women from every brach of our military have and will defend with their lives. So if you have a beef with someones opinion and you disagree remember the only reason you're capable of making that choice is God and country. So don't try to strip a fellow American of his/her rights. I suggest you hold a press conference and apologize to all Americans for your feeble attempt to censor our true feelings. You are a cowardly man that hides from the truth.

BOYCOTT SNYDER-SEMPER FIDELIS

Posted by: hessone | October 27, 2009 6:05 PM | Report abuse

you. must. be. kidding. me.

Posted by: bacaje | October 27, 2009 6:05 PM | Report abuse

BOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

Posted by: rsskinsfan | October 27, 2009 6:19 PM | Report abuse

Ol'Vinny needs to strap on a helmut, get Sonny to let him wear #9, and play quarterback for a couple series' - or until he's beat into the ground ala Jason Campbell. Maybe he'll "get it" then.

Posted by: hounddog1 | October 27, 2009 6:24 PM | Report abuse

I wonder what would be if they would have kept Jeremy Bridges and signed Levi Jones after Randy Thomas got injured instead of signing more running backs and Renaldo Wynn.. I would take Jeremy Bridges over Montgomery anyday! And Levi Jones over Stephone Heyer anyday as well!!!
Posted by: WilliamsJohn1666

Good point...excellent

Posted by: jcnjcnj | October 27, 2009 6:38 PM | Report abuse

Lil Dan must have dropped a safe on Vinny the Team Destroyer's head. He is out of his dadgummed mind.

Posted by: jnsbear | October 27, 2009 6:49 PM | Report abuse

lmao, what a circus!

What is really sad is all the holes this team has with nary a draft pick to fill them.

It's going to be years before this team can be relevant again and that is if Snyder starts doing the right things which is highly unlikely. I don't really care what Cerrato does or says bc he is just Snyder's lackey and nothing more. That has to change, period.

I suspect if Shottenheimer was still running the show we would be a very solid team by now. Year in and year out. One can only dream at what could have been at this point.

Posted by: rphilli721 | October 27, 2009 8:13 PM | Report abuse

Vinny - are you freakin kidding me? Dan, you need another set of eyes. You have been struggling. Please dump bug-eyes now!

Posted by: donsilvester | October 28, 2009 7:03 AM | Report abuse

Vinny - are you freakin kidding me? Dan, you need another set of eyes. You have been struggling. Please dump bug-eyes now!

Posted by: donsilvester | October 28, 2009 7:05 AM | Report abuse

is Cerrato really been on some type of heavy drugs such as valume or he thinks we are or does he think himself and snyder know more about football operation than anyone of us and some without college education, i have another question as long as Cerrato has this job with snyder are they in bed together or is lynda synder is just a stand by for dan something iam just trying to figure out.

Posted by: rmnkevorkian | October 28, 2009 3:11 PM | Report abuse

I still don't understand the
"whole uprising" thing here.
The redskins have had a HORRIBLE offense for years,they didnt do anything in the offseason to improve that area and it shows.
Everyone picked us to finish 4th
(How funny is it that they cant say LAST but 4th?)

Vinny has done a much better job at Draft Picks than what Charley Casserly did,we just don't ever seem to get that BIG name for the offense.
http://www.nfl.com/draft/history/fulldraft?teamId=5110&type=team

Not many people seem to say how much Joe Gibbs2.0 mortgaged our future with his win now approach by giving away our draft picks.

What I really dont understand is how does our offense practice against a top 10 D for the past few years and still SUCK?
What are they doing when they practice?

Posted by: Long-Time-Fan | October 28, 2009 7:29 PM | Report abuse

Jesh,
I hope thats not too bad a foul word?
If so sorry,I should have proof read my post.

Sorry

Posted by: Long-Time-Fan | October 28, 2009 7:32 PM | Report abuse

The clear plan has and always has been to trash this season, dump the players in an uncapped year and start over. To Vinny's defense, he had only one option; upgrade the D because he didn't have the money to adequately upgrade the O-line thanks to his mentor Danny Warbucks. In his case, he has to say that he thought the O-line would hold. He's a proud man and he's not going to just admit that he assembled a bad team. The plan was to somehow try to compete with what he had. Conventional wisdom states that when you play a contact sport, guys are going to get hurt. Sure, had the Skins not been thinking of gutting the team after this year and actually had some cap room, they would have probably done something different. As it stands now, they will probably lose the rest of their games this year. Have a high draft pick slot which they could trade or keep and get some added players. Cerrato of course will not be involved in this because he's going to get canned or he should get canned. Snyder has to get someone in here that knows what he's doing and that person cannot have the interference of Napoleon in trying to build this team. Good thing is the bulk of the additions will only be on the offense where they will likely replace 4 of the O-line positions, the QB, the RB who doesn't practice, the slot receiver who drops punts and possibly the WR who never gets the ball thrown to him even if he's 15 yards wide open down the sidelines.

Posted by: JWPinCHI | October 28, 2009 9:59 PM | Report abuse

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