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D. Thomas, Kelly Learning How to Handle Injury

Devin Thomas and Malcolm Kelly returned to the field today after taking a couple of days to rest their hamstrings. Then Thomas tweaked his hamstring during 11-on-11 drills and missed about the last 20 minutes of practice.

With his hamstring wrapped again, Thomas walked back slowly to the field and watched his teammates finish their work in the rain. The Skins still have more than five weeks until their regular-season opener against the Giants, and Thomas's lingering hamstring injury could fade from memory.

Of course, it seems Thomas has been injured/ineffective from the moment the Skins took him with their first pick in the 2008 draft. I've written that some in the organization are pleased with the improved work ethic and maturity Thomas has exhibited, and Coach Jim Zorn recently acknowledged Thomas was ahead of second-year wideout Malcolm Kelly for the starting flanker spot opposite split end Santana Moss.

With so much time remaining in the preseason, though, nothing has been decided. The wideout position battle could be a tight race for a while, especially if Thomas continues to take things slowly.

"Right at the end, things tightened up a little bit on Devin, so we pulled him back out," Zorn said. "It's not pulled, it's just sore, and based on what happened to him last year, he's a little nervous to try to just work through it. I don't want him to pull it either. We're just being cautious with him."

Thomas's hamstring problems and Kelly's knee issues have prompted the Skins to manage them carefully. Because of the team's long search for a productive receiver to team with Moss, Thomas and Kelly are the most important draft picks in Vinny Cerrato's first draft class as the head of Washington's football operation.

"We need Devin and Malcolm," quarterback Jason Campbell said. "We need everybody, but we have to count on them this season for our offense to do the things we want to do. That's just the way it is."

Zorn has continued to preach patience, but everything has its limits.

"The younger guys, they're kind of feeling their way," he said. "And when you get injured and actually have a lot of down time, it's something that makes you nervous about the next time. As they get older, they'll know more about how their bodies feel, how they prepare, what they can push through and what they can't.

"And I think that's the issue. Is it a setback? I don't know if it's a setback, but it's a learning situation. They've got to know the difference from [an] injury and just being sore. That's something that they're working out and we're talking about a lot. ... How hard can they push to get back?"

By Jason Reid  |  August 6, 2009; 1:03 PM ET
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Posted by: REDneckSKINhead | August 6, 2009 1:08 PM | Report abuse

Will these guys ever get healthy?

Posted by: jjd72079 | August 6, 2009 1:11 PM | Report abuse

In terms of Heyer...it is called progression...You know it is what usually happens when a young player works hard during the off season and gains more experience...For an undrafted rook to even start in his second year is usually unheard of. I think he will be a legit starter this year (save for injuries)...

In terms of depth...I agree with you completely. We need to go sign someone like runyan. Granted he is old, but he is a vet w/ starting experience (esp. in the nfc east). He would be an upgrade at tackle better then anyone else we have on the 2nd string.

Posted by: merajc86 | August 6, 2009 12:36 PM | Report abuse

I completely get that Heyer has probably improved and given what was/is on our roster should be the starter. Even if Jansen was still here he would be, I get that, support that, agree with that and blah blah blah....but to expect that he is suddenly a major upgrade and an above average RT in this league is expecting a lot. And while I hated watching Jansen at times last year he still would have been half decent depth behind Samuels and Heyer in case one or both got hurt. Right now we have no depth behind them besides out of position Bridges and some guy named Burley. I have to believe/hope that a move will be made soon, they can't really be thinking this is good enough for a 16 game season....Jonas Jennings, Mark Columbo, Mark Tauscher, Runyan any of these guys or any two of these guys would be cheap additions to give us a little bit of depth behind Samuels and Heyer. I want Levi Jones but he will get paid starter money, personally I think we need a starter at RT and since we refuse to draft lineman we should go ahead and sign a starter, but if we want the cheap route any of those four would be better than what we have. A legit tackle to be the backup and then Rhino and Bridges at guard and Bridges at tackle if necessary in a calamity situation of both Samuels and Heyer hurt makes so much more sense than what we have now.

Posted by: zjfr2 | August 6, 2009 1:05 PM | Report abuse

Posted by: zjfr2 | August 6, 2009 1:08 PM | Report abuse

Posted by: zjfr2 | August 6, 2009 1:16 PM | Report abuse

for those wondering about the line on light skin blacks being smarter than dark skin blacks ... Julian Bond to Garrett Morris on Saturday Night Live ... dlhaze got 2/3 of it ...

which, I'm guessing is going to send some people to look up who those guys are ...

Posted by: zcezcest1 | August 6, 2009 1:16 PM | Report abuse

comment just heard on talk radio ...

people are standing around the water cooler this morning saying "My twitter is down"

not that there's anything wrong with that ...

Posted by: zcezcest1 | August 6, 2009 1:18 PM | Report abuse

Jonas Jennings, Mark Columbo, Mark Tauscher, Runyan

Funny how those guys have all but been ignored by all 32 teams in the NFL.

Also, I believe Mark Columbo is still employed by the Cowboys....

Posted by: BeantownGreg1 | August 6, 2009 1:19 PM | Report abuse

Since these guys roster spots are gaurenteed, they can take days off.

If they were in the bottom 20/30, I bet a gazillion dollars those dudes would be on the field practicing.....

Posted by: 4thFloor | August 6, 2009 1:21 PM | Report abuse

zjfr2 what you talking about makes sense. However given the inexperience of Bridges and the other OT on the roster, signing someone on will steal their reps. There are fives weeks to the start of the regular season. A vet OT of the caliber you're talking about can be signed in 2-3 weeks and still be up to speed to be a back up OT.

Posted by: TWISI | August 6, 2009 1:22 PM | Report abuse

Garrett Morris-- From the time when SNL was really good.

I wish I had fans like his:

In 1994, he was shot in an apparent robbery attempt but went on to make a full recovery. In a radio interview, he mentioned that the robber who shot him was eventually incarcerated, and in prison some fans of Garrett's who happened to be inmates there teamed up and beat up the robber in revenge.

Posted by: gatorskinz2000 | August 6, 2009 1:25 PM | Report abuse

Same with Carlos. I am surprised no one is talking bout Los. He has ONLY practiced one time. It seems like he is 'Holding Out' from the hard activities since he is in a contract year. Too worried about getting injured during training camp?

Me says yes....

Posted by: 4thFloor | August 6, 2009 1:27 PM | Report abuse

"Thomas's hamstring problems and Kelly's knee issues have prompted the Skins to manage them carefully."-_RI DUH MAYOR

Does managing them "carefully" include bringing Thomas back too soon from his hamstring tweak to practice on a slick field on a rainy day, and hurt himself again?

Yeah, I know it's fubball, and guys need to practice when they can, but try not to kid the kidders on this blog. Putting Thomas and Kelly and their delicate bodies out there on a lousy weather day when they're still recovering from leg injuries strikes me as either desperation or questionable judgment.

Posted by: TheCork | August 6, 2009 1:32 PM | Report abuse

"Zorn has continued to preach patience, but everything has its limits" That train of thought will have shanny in here before camp is shut down.

Posted by: whitepeopleareafraidtotalkaboutracialissues | August 6, 2009 1:33 PM | Report abuse

"Zorn has continued to preach patience, but everything has its limits" That train of thought will have shanny in here before camp is shut down.

Posted by: whitepeopleareafraidtotalkaboutracialissues | August 6, 2009 1:33 PM | Report abuse

From the Times:

Chris Samuels was throwing up on the sideline during practice

Posted by: BeantownGreg1 | August 6, 2009 1:34 PM | Report abuse

Cork

I cannot agree more. A Pulled hammy, and these guys a down 2-4 weeks. It's better to have them sit 4-5 days and get their legs back, so they can get 2-3 preseason games in.

Posted by: TWISI | August 6, 2009 1:38 PM | Report abuse

Jonas Jennings, Mark Columbo, Mark Tauscher, Runyan

Funny how those guys have all but been ignored by all 32 teams in the NFL.

Also, I believe Mark Columbo is still employed by the Cowboys....

Posted by: BeantownGreg1 | August 6, 2009 1:19 PM | Report abuse

Still Greg, you're following along and grasping the concept right? Nevermind, I forgot, everything we need is already on the roster, every noname undrafted free agent we have is a stud, Mike Williams is just playing around by not being able to block anyone, and it is realistic to expect perfect health from this line anyway......wait and see right?

Posted by: zjfr2 | August 6, 2009 1:39 PM | Report abuse

Last but not least, This is a No NEws is No News post with a few misleading items.

Why must the reporters keep including Kelly? He has not missed a scheduled practice to date? Everytime he works on the side is because the Skins Medical Staff and NOT MK12 wanted him to take it easy....

Why are the reporters not up in arms at CR22 the same way? He has practiced the least out of all 80 players in camp. He seems to be suffering from the same thing that kept Springs out for half the season....???...

Posted by: 4thFloor | August 6, 2009 1:40 PM | Report abuse

actually yeah, wait and see. Or would you prefer knee-jerk, like last training camp??

Lets actually use the assets that are ALREADY on the roster, see what they can do, THEN assess the situation, then react. Because I mean, its not like anyone else has signed these guys.....

You know...ready....fire.....aim...is probably never the proper way to do it....

Posted by: BeantownGreg1 | August 6, 2009 1:43 PM | Report abuse

Bean, once again you're proving your moronic level, signing a cheap veteran as insurance to have during training camp and the preseason who is infinitely cutable if any of the so called "assets" you refer to can actually play is not the same thing as a knee-jerk trading of a 2nd and 5th for a small finesse end when you already have 3 similarly bodied guys on your roster (Wilson, Jackson, Carter) at the time. I'm not advocating giving up any value, I'm just saying sign some cheap insurance. Adam Terry just went on IR for the Ravens, Kalif Barnes is our 6-8 weeks for the Raiders, as more injuries mount what little quality is on the scrap heap will either be gone or more expensive if we keep waiting. Signing a guys like Kendal and Runyan would be cheap smart and they are so old and experienced you can still let the kids have the reps to keep them fresh and cause after 15 years they know what they're doing. Are they great options? No, but they are good enough for some insurance if nobody develops through camp and if somebody does you can let them go its actually safe, smart, and prudent, not knee-jerk.....or for that matter stupid like the plan we have now which is two injury prone starters at tackle and one at guard with only a second year 3rd round guy who didn't show much last year and a Bridges and then just a bunch of hopes and prayers.

Posted by: zjfr2 | August 6, 2009 1:53 PM | Report abuse

From the Times:

Chris Samuels was throwing up on the sideline during practice

Posted by: BeantownGreg1 | August 6, 2009 1:34 PM | Report abuse

Wait, did Kevin Barnes hit him or something?

Posted by: TDawg1 | August 6, 2009 1:54 PM | Report abuse

From TFP.con

Snoop dog was at ravens camp today watching from the sidelines. after practice he got in the huddle and led a couple of chants.

It is reported that he will be at redskins park on Friday where he and Carlos Rogers will be performing his hit song "Drop it like it's hot"

Posted by: GreatOne1 | August 6, 2009 1:56 PM | Report abuse

that was funny greatone

Posted by: zjfr2 | August 6, 2009 1:58 PM | Report abuse

Snoop ft. Rogers and Brandon Lloyd

Posted by: merajc86 | August 6, 2009 1:59 PM | Report abuse

My mistake zcezcest1. I was thinking it was Andrew Young, but you're right, it was Julian Bond. Garrett Morris played Andrew Young in another skit on the same episode.

Posted by: drfunknsoul | August 6, 2009 2:02 PM | Report abuse

Posted by: zjfr2 | August 6, 2009 1:53 PM

Your post has a lot of good points ... a lot.

Posted by: zcezcest1 | August 6, 2009 2:05 PM | Report abuse

Ive got an important question:

Does anyone know if we can BOOZE this saturday at training camp?

Posted by: jeffco01 | August 6, 2009 2:06 PM | Report abuse

and in keeping with the musical theme on Monday, Will Ferrel and John C Reiley will be performing their hit, "Boats N Hoes" w/ special guest appearance by Captain Fred Smoot.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o8T095mFdW8

Posted by: skins1110 | August 6, 2009 2:08 PM | Report abuse

"Why are the reporters not up in arms at CR22 the same way?"

Because Carlos Rogers starts, produces, and has come back effectively from injury before. Devin Thomas has not done any of those things. Night and Day.

Posted by: psps23 | August 6, 2009 2:08 PM | Report abuse

From TFP.con

Snoop dog was at ravens camp today watching from the sidelines. after practice he got in the huddle and led a couple of chants.

It is reported that he will be at redskins park on Friday where he and Carlos Rogers will be performing his hit song "Drop it like it's hot"


Posted by: GreatOne1 | August 6, 2009 1:56 PM

Well, Snoop dog must be doing one of those training camp tours, like 20 camps in 20 days, cuz it sounds like he was at Lehigh with some of the Eagles the other day.........thank you....

Posted by: dlhaze1 | August 6, 2009 2:10 PM | Report abuse

My mistake zcezcest1. I was thinking it was Andrew Young, but you're right, it was Julian Bond. Garrett Morris played Andrew Young in another skit on the same episode.

Posted by: drfunknsoul

always good to know when my memory functions properly -- its not that common

Posted by: zcezcest1 | August 6, 2009 2:11 PM | Report abuse

You know, cuz that guy on the Eagles got busted with pot? Get it? Is this on?

Posted by: dlhaze1 | August 6, 2009 2:12 PM | Report abuse

Twitter and Facebook are under attack, if you do not already know this.

Anyone else think BBM got $97M because JC17 is still unsigned and Danny might be shopping for a new QB next year? Philip Rivers should be happy too... if he is able to sign a new deal

Posted by: noonefromtampa | August 6, 2009 1:08 PM

Posted by: noonefromtampa | August 6, 2009 2:18 PM | Report abuse

You know, cuz that guy on the Eagles got busted with pot? Get it? Is this on?

Posted by: dlhaze1 | August 6, 2009 2:12 PM | Report abuse

I thought it was pretty funny...lol

Posted by: skinsnwiz | August 6, 2009 2:18 PM | Report abuse

Garrett Morris: Now, Julian, perhaps you could explain something to me. In all these studies comparing black I.Q. to white I.Q., what kind of test is used to measure I.Q.'s in the first place?

Julian Bond: Well, this is the major problem with these studies. The measurements of I.Q. which form the basis of comparison come from tests composed by whites for whites. The tests are culturally biased; it's not surprising that whites would score better than blacks.

Garrett Morris: Could you give us an example of what you're talking about?

Julian Bond: Certainly. Here are some questions that have appeared on recent I.Q. tests. Number one: "You have been invited over for cocktails by the officer of your trust fund. Cocktails begin at 4:30, but you must make an appearance at a 6:00 formal dinner at the Yacht Club. What do you do about dress?
A. Wear your blue-striped seersucker suit to cocktails and change into your tuxedo in the bathroom, apologizing to your host for the inconvenience.
B. Wear your tuxedo to cocktails, apologizing to your host for wearing a dinner jacket before 6:00 PM.
C. Walk to the subway at Columbus Circle and take the "A" Train uptown."

Garrett Morris: Uh.. I guess I'd choose the last one.

Julian Bond: I'm sorry, that's incorrect.

Garrett Morris: Damn.

Julian Bond: Here's another: "When waxing your skis for a cross-country run, you should..."

funny stuff

Posted by: learnedhand1 | August 6, 2009 2:18 PM | Report abuse

Anyone else think BBM got $97M because JC17 is still unsigned and Danny might be shopping for a new QB next year? Philip Rivers should be happy too... if he is able to sign a new deal

Posted by: noonefromtampa | August 6, 2009 1:08

Don't think that is the reason eli got the massive $$$.

But ... your point is very real. JC17 probably coulda been signed to a long term deal in the $5-7mil/season range. Not expensive for a QB.

Now, Danny is likely to have to pay more ... and if eli's contract resets the standard pay for QBs, a whole lot more.

This may not be a serious issue if the salary cap goes ... but if it stays, the Skins won't be able to sign a guy like Rivers ... or even Campbell if he has a good year.

Posted by: zcezcest1 | August 6, 2009 2:30 PM | Report abuse

Are any other NFL teams experiencing as many injuries during training camp as the Skins? I know the Eagles lost their MLB, but just curious if other teams are having the same issues with injuries...

Posted by: jive_turkey | August 6, 2009 2:31 PM | Report abuse

jive_turkey Ravens have been hit hard with major injuries. I would think all teams have thses minor injuries that they are dealing with.

Posted by: TWISI | August 6, 2009 2:34 PM | Report abuse

zJack, Tauscher and Runyan are both still recovering from knee surgeries late in or after this past season.

Posted by: dcsween | August 6, 2009 2:34 PM | Report abuse

Classique Portis on the DC Cheese, er, Sports Bog, which also has a shoutout to chRis larRy. Steinz loves "check my paperwork." I'm partial to "look at my grind."

http://voices.washingtonpost.com/dcsportsbog/2009/08/portis_check_my_paperwork.html

Posted by: CindyBoren | August 6, 2009 2:43 PM | Report abuse

whitepeopleareafraidtotalkaboutracialissues, see http://stuffwhitepeoplelike.com/full-list-of-stuff-white-people-like/

This is a white guy who is not afraid to talk about whiteness. Not sure if that you mean by "racial."

For more whiteness, see 4-12 (I've met a person who claims to be 4-12, but I still believe that 4-12 is some sort of bot or artificial intelligence somewhere out there in the interwebgoogletubes ... who also likes the Skins).

Seems like there are a ton of receivers who could/should be benefitting from Kelly & Thomas not being on the field ... the roster spots for those two guys are assured if only based on Vinny's pride. Its every OTHER wide receiver that needs to get more reps and more film so that coaches (and the EVP and The Owner) can make the best decisions for roster spots.

That said, because he cost a draft pick, the #5 receiver is going to be Marko Mitchell and everyone else will be sent packing (but hey, leave us a number where we can reach you) ... unless one of Kelly or Thomas ends up on the PUP or IR list for the season, then Hackett gets to stay too.

Posted by: dcsween | August 6, 2009 2:45 PM | Report abuse

zJack, Tauscher and Runyan are both still recovering from knee surgeries late in or after this past season.

Posted by: dcsween | August 6, 2009 2:34 PM | Report abuse

Fine, Jonas Jennings and Kendall? It's not about the names, its about the concept.....some veteran insurance is all I'm saying, not knee-jerk big ticket moves, just one or two guys who have played in the league before with some real experience and some certainty of knowing what you've got with them. Not that that's going to be anything great at this point, but its better than just a bunch of we hope these guys get better behind our injury prone starters.

Posted by: zjfr2 | August 6, 2009 2:45 PM | Report abuse

"But ... your point is very real. JC17 probably coulda been signed to a long term deal in the $5-7mil/season range. Not expensive for a QB. "Posted by: zcezcest1


Sort of tips you off to their innermost thoughts, doesn't it?

Posted by: Samson151 | August 6, 2009 2:48 PM | Report abuse

I believe the correct usage is "F chRIs laRRy"

Posted by: 4-12 | August 6, 2009 2:46 PM

Kind of like F Scott FitzchRIs LaRRy?

Posted by: dcsween | August 6, 2009 2:49 PM | Report abuse

"Don't you forget about me..."

Signed DT's Hammy

PS R.Insider posts are not culturally biased

Posted by: ElYeah | August 6, 2009 2:50 PM | Report abuse

Kendall was right time, right place. It would have been knee jerk but for the fact he wanted out and the Jets wanted him out. [Todd Wade was a Wadn't.] Bottom line is that I agree with the basic concept ... and think the next go to guy should be Fabini.

Posted by: dcsween | August 6, 2009 2:51 PM | Report abuse

Because Carlos Rogers starts, produces, and has come back effectively from injury before. Devin Thomas has not done any of those things. Night and Day.

Posted by: psps23 | August 6, 2009 2:08 PM

I don't buy that for a second. This is his contract year....

Posted by: 4thFloor | August 6, 2009 2:52 PM | Report abuse

My grandmother aint as fragile as those 2 guys. Cut them please. Even if the skins replaced them with special team’s players, at least we would have somebody more reliable. I’m tried of hearing about their potential. The road to hell is paved with "potential"

Posted by: dc4life | August 6, 2009 3:02 PM | Report abuse

"Cut them please"

logical, and well thought out...nicely done...

Posted by: BeantownGreg1 | August 6, 2009 3:04 PM | Report abuse

From the Times:

Chris Samuels was throwing up on the sideline during practice

Posted by: BeantownGreg1 | August 6, 2009 1:34 PM | Report abuse

Is the offense that disgusting?

Posted by: ga8085 | August 6, 2009 3:05 PM | Report abuse

HEY! I am pro-portis!

Posted by: chrislarry | August 6, 2009 3:17 PM | Report abuse

I thought it was part of the team weight loss program

Posted by: alex35332 | August 6, 2009 3:21 PM | Report abuse

My grandmother aint as fragile as those 2 guys. Cut them please. Even if the skins replaced them with special team’s players, at least we would have somebody more reliable. I’m tried of hearing about their potential. The road to hell is paved with "potential"

Posted by: dc4life | August 6, 2009 3:02 PM | Report abuse

You don't cut second round draft picks in year two because they can't stay healthy. They'll have this whole year and next to see what's going on so just deal with it. The DJ signing was a really nice one though, if he stays healthy he could be huge for us, obviously that's a big if though.

Posted by: zjfr2 | August 6, 2009 3:21 PM | Report abuse

HEY! I am pro-portis!

Posted by: chrislarry

That's what I thought as well.

Posted by: jm220 | August 6, 2009 3:22 PM | Report abuse

WR: nice picture of DJ "Z" Hackett catching a pass in the Post this morning.

By TRAPPING IT AGAINST HIS BODY. Oi!

Maybe he saw Kevin "Doorbell" Barnes lining him up?

Dudes, I was watching the NFL Channel last night rerun the Stupor Bowl. Man Limas Sweed laid Corey Ivy out like a rug. Those UT guys can hit... hey isn't Orakpo from UT?

I like what the Skins did on defense, the guys they took in the draft really bring it, adding them to Dirty 30 et. al. I predict the rampant growth of alligator arms (see DJ "Z" above) in the NFC East this year when playing the Redskins.

Posted by: dpc2003 | August 6, 2009 3:25 PM | Report abuse

And I hear Portis is pro-chrislarry

Posted by: alex35332 | August 6, 2009 3:25 PM | Report abuse

And I hear Portis is pro-chrislarry

Posted by: alex35332 | August 6, 2009 3:25 PM

That would Associate Justice chRIs LarRymAYor to you.

Posted by: dcsween | August 6, 2009 3:36 PM | Report abuse

HEY! I am pro-portis!

Posted by: chrislarry | August 6, 2009 3:17 PM

Cold day in hell. Negativity King Chris Larry is pro something. Wow. Just wow.

Posted by: talent_evaluator | August 6, 2009 3:37 PM | Report abuse

I've decided to take a "glass half full" approach on this O-line thing. Frankly, the timing couldn't be better for Heyer and R. Thomas to sit it out and ice it out and such as. It has to be a good thing that Rhinehart and Bridges are playing against the first team defense, esp. at this point in the preseason, to get the extra work and film and technique training such as. You can't have "quality depth" unless you get the reps to build quality. If you want to run with the big dogs, you have to learn how to pee in the tall grass. Chemistry, schmemistry. The starting O-line will get that (and the timing) down in due time as the preseason ... after the D-line guys get their hardest, can't wait for live hitting to start, stuff out of their systems.

Glass half full! SHOMER SHABBOS!

Posted by: dcsween | August 6, 2009 3:44 PM | Report abuse

"And I hear Portis is pro-chrislarry

Posted by: alex35332 | August 6, 2009 3:25 PM | Report abuse"

who isn't? (getting under siht storm cover now)

Posted by: chrislarry | August 6, 2009 3:48 PM | Report abuse

u tell 'em sween!

Posted by: DikShuttle | August 6, 2009 3:49 PM | Report abuse

Glass half full!

Posted by: dcsween | August 6, 2009 3:44 PM

Your words say "glass half full" but your eyes say "glass three-quarters full."

Posted by: talent_evaluator | August 6, 2009 3:51 PM | Report abuse

I'm pro-cl....count me in....

I'm also pro-glass is half full....

Posted by: BeantownGreg1 | August 6, 2009 3:51 PM | Report abuse

I also hear Portis is gay (see Cisco pics for details), so that ought to tell you something...

Posted by: pgugino | August 6, 2009 3:54 PM | Report abuse

Sween - A good reason to be a GLassHalfFull (Whatever happened to him? Missing for 2 years), The Iggles, according to most media and expert bloggers from these parts have been annoited NFC Champs for the year. And their OLine is doing worse than ours. Peters isn't staying healthy and bith Andrews brothers can't get on the field.

Posted by: 4thFloor | August 6, 2009 3:55 PM | Report abuse

Crisco

Posted by: DikShuttle | August 6, 2009 3:56 PM | Report abuse

thanks BG, pro-u as well...the well earned respect of regular combatants!

Posted by: chrislarry | August 6, 2009 3:58 PM | Report abuse

Here's what Jasno just put up on NFL.com re his Eagles love:

"I was on the Philly bandwagon but I think the defense is going to have to overcome a lot now. Losing Jim Johnson, Brian Dawkins and Stewart Bradley - that's like the brain, spine and heart of that unit right there - is huge. Sean McDermott is going to be under fire right from the start, and Bradley was the QB of that defense, the guy to relay info and make changes and checks before the snap. Guess I'll still say Eagles for now, but the events of the past few weeks have certainly changed things there."

Posted by: talent_evaluator | August 6, 2009 3:59 PM | Report abuse

This is why you dont have family be your adviser. What a fool.

http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=4381335

Posted by: gatorskinz2000 | August 6, 2009 4:00 PM | Report abuse

te, I agree with him, losing those 3 presents an enormous obstacle to overcome. You sort of have to include in that Juqua Parker, because he's probably going to be facing a suspension of some sort for his recent arrest....

Posted by: BeantownGreg1 | August 6, 2009 4:02 PM | Report abuse

I dunno about the Iggles being anointed. Seems to me that Sporting News columnist predicted they'd finish out of the playoffs. ON the other hand, their GM thinks they've got the best talent in the NFL.

This just in: Tony Romo is challenging everybody in the huddle to "play at his level". Which means lights out in Sept, Oct & Nov (106 rating), gobsmacked in December (71.9 rating), and like he's had a stroke in December (0-2 in the playoff).

This is your team Tony -- you tell 'em!

Posted by: dpc2003 | August 6, 2009 4:04 PM | Report abuse

Nats Sweep the Fish! 12-8 win

Posted by: alex35332 | August 6, 2009 4:07 PM | Report abuse

Let's see dpc,

Does that mean the whole team should take their girlfriends to Cabo?

Posted by: _Stumped_ | August 6, 2009 4:08 PM | Report abuse

bg-I liked his "brain, heart, and spine" reference. But I couldn't see picking the Eagles before that and I sure can't see picking them now. I'd put them at the bottom -- the Least of the East.

Posted by: talent_evaluator | August 6, 2009 4:08 PM | Report abuse

Stumped -- Only if they get into the playoffs.

Posted by: dpc2003 | August 6, 2009 4:09 PM | Report abuse

Having your cousins manage your pro sports career is akin to having TE ghost write your RI blog comment posts....

Posted by: chrislarry | August 6, 2009 4:09 PM | Report abuse

I hear I don't care if portis is gay.

Posted by: alex35332 | August 6, 2009 4:11 PM | Report abuse

Nats Sweep the Fish! 12-8 win

Posted by: alex35332 | August 6, 2009 4:07 PM

Woo-hoo! Let's make a trade to get ready for the playoffs!

Posted by: talent_evaluator | August 6, 2009 4:11 PM | Report abuse

Does that mean the whole team should take their girlfriends to Cabo?

Posted by: _Stumped_ | August 6, 2009 4:08 PM |

No. Swear off girls to preserve their vital essences.

Posted by: talent_evaluator | August 6, 2009 4:12 PM | Report abuse

Does that mean the whole team should take their girlfriends to Cabo?

Posted by: _Stumped_ | August 6, 2009 4:08 PM

Not exactly. The whole team should take ROMO's (ex)girlfriend to Cabo.

Posted by: dcsween | August 6, 2009 4:14 PM | Report abuse

Cindy,
Can you swing the post to pay for me to go to Las Vegas for the first game of the UFL on October 8th, I mean yes it's the day before my birthday, but still. I spend enough time writing on the blogs, I think I deserve it.
:)

Posted by: alex35332 | August 6, 2009 4:21 PM | Report abuse

I don't buy that for a second. This is his contract year....

Posted by: 4thFloor |

Not sure how a guy with injury history enhances the value of his new contract by remaining injury prone or appearing unwilling to play through pain, as it appears you're implying.

Posted by: TheCork | August 6, 2009 4:22 PM | Report abuse

Alex - you're not getting paid per post like the rest of us?

Posted by: JohnDinHouston | August 6, 2009 4:22 PM | Report abuse

John,
Just saying that I think they should pay for travel.

Posted by: alex35332 | August 6, 2009 4:24 PM | Report abuse

Early afternoon Redskins practice update By JohnTaylor
Aug. 6, 2009
Redskins 360

(Intern Rachel Orland checking in with an early afternoon update)

The Redskins have taken the field for their afternoon workout; here's what we know.

- Guard Randy Thomas has a helmet on.

Injuries:

- Receiver Santana Moss is sitting out of practice with a hamstring injury.

- Also sitting out are receiver Devin Thomas (hamstring), CB Carlos Rogers (calf), linebacker Alfred Fincher (groin), G Rueben Riley (ankle), DL JD Skolnitsky (hamstring), and DT Lorenzo Alexander (foot).

More later.

Posted by: 4thFloor | August 6, 2009 4:24 PM | Report abuse

Does that mean the whole team should take their girlfriends to Cabo?

Posted by: _Stumped_ | August 6, 2009 4:08 PM |

No. Swear off girls to preserve their vital essences.

Posted by: talent_evaluator

General Turgidson would disagree. He's always said it was the Commies destroying our vital bodily essences.

Posted by: TheCork | August 6, 2009 4:25 PM | Report abuse

Chris Samuels was throwing up on the sideline during practice

Posted by: BeantownGreg1 | August 6, 2009 1:34 PM | Report abuse

Is the offense that disgusting?

Posted by: ga8085 | August 6, 2009 3:05 PM

Funny stuff ... and Learned ... thanks for the Julian Bond, Garrett Morris SNL dialogue. Twas a great skit ...

Posted by: zcezcest1 | August 6, 2009 4:25 PM | Report abuse

Ah, yes, good point - how can we effectively comment on various sporting events without being on the ground.

Posted by: JohnDinHouston | August 6, 2009 4:27 PM | Report abuse

TE

I prefer the term "Precious Bodily Essence" to "vital essence".

God willing, we will prevail, in peace and freedom from fear, and in true health, through the purity and essence of our natural... fluids.

Posted by: dpc2003 | August 6, 2009 4:27 PM | Report abuse

Thomas wasn't ineffective when he ran that TD, or when he shallaqued Cribbs the Browns gunner, and we drove down scored the game winner and almost gave up a KR TD until Thomas made his game saving tackle. 3 instances of effectiveness just off the top a me head

Posted by: pabrian2003 | August 6, 2009 4:28 PM | Report abuse

Not sure how a guy with injury history enhances the value of his new contract by remaining injury prone or appearing unwilling to play through pain, as it appears you're implying.

Posted by: TheCork | August 6, 2009 4:22 PM

Los's next contract is going to be based on what happens in the 16 regular season games, not the preseason. He's preserving his vital essences. You should have done the same when you had the chance.

Posted by: talent_evaluator | August 6, 2009 4:28 PM | Report abuse

The only thing I am implying is that the media is being too hard on MK12 and Devin to a lessor extent and no one is even looking in Carlos' direction, though he has only participated in one practice.... (cork)

Posted by: 4thFloor | August 6, 2009 4:29 PM | Report abuse

It was actually General Jack D. Ripper who was concerned with Precious Bodily Essence.

General "Buck" Turgidson was afraid the Commies would see the "Big Board"

Posted by: dpc2003 | August 6, 2009 4:29 PM | Report abuse

And what TE said. He looks like he is taking every precaution to not be injured during Training Camp/Preseason so he can play all 16 games and get paid like Asante Sameuls' Right Arm....

Posted by: 4thFloor | August 6, 2009 4:32 PM | Report abuse

Have to wonder if they will even have an offense this year with the OL looking the way it is.

Posted by: periculum | August 6, 2009 4:36 PM | Report abuse

It was actually General Jack D. Ripper who was concerned with Precious Bodily Essence.

General "Buck" Turgidson was afraid the Commies would see the "Big Board"

Posted by: dpc2003

Man I'm having a bad day...TWO entertainment references, and I'm wrong both times. Thats what happens when you don't Goggle or IMDB and depend on your slipping noodle. (And if you've ever had a slipping noodle, you'd know how painful it can be.)

I need a week in Maine to recharge my batteries.

Posted by: TheCork | August 6, 2009 4:40 PM | Report abuse

Devin Thomas is a goldbricker. That's not to say he isn't going to have a good year, I believe he will. Here's a guy that runs pass patterns for a living, and we’re told spent the entire off season honing his skills and improving his conditioning. Two weeks of camp and he’s a spectator just as I am.

I’m not throwing Devin Thomas under the bus, but I am calling him out. I’m hoping it’s a hamstring issue and not a heart condition.

Posted by: deshackleford | August 6, 2009 4:41 PM | Report abuse

And what TE said. He looks like he is taking every precaution to not be injured during Training Camp/Preseason so he can play all 16 games and get paid like Asante Sameuls' Right Arm....

Posted by: 4thFloor

If he plays all 16 games, I agree. But getting injured and/or dinged is cumulative particularly as far as perception goes. So, if he misses a game or two, it will recalled thoughts that "he was nicked up in preseason, too," and hurt him in the pocketbook.

Posted by: TheCork | August 6, 2009 4:45 PM | Report abuse

"And what TE said. He looks like he is taking every precaution to not be injured during Training Camp/Preseason so he can play all 16 games and get paid like Asante Sameuls' Right Arm....

Posted by: 4thFloor"

Right. But somehow, ensuring he's healthy for the regular season is a bad thing...

And, as a pre-emptive response, (1) Devin Thomas did not do the same, re-injuring himself on the first day back from his "sore" hamstring, thus setting himself back, and (2) Devin Thomas cannot afford the luxury of sitting out preseason for a lengthy period of time and be expected to perform at a high level.

Night and Day.

Posted by: psps23 | August 6, 2009 4:53 PM | Report abuse

everyone can be hurt the entire pre season as long as we go 10-6 and make the playoffs. Ever since Portis got hurt making a tackle on a Brunell interception, that most rookies know not to throw (all the way across the field) I hate the pre season.

Sure you need some reps, but they should start by cutting one game, and then cut another. 2 is enough

Posted by: pabrian2003 | August 6, 2009 4:55 PM | Report abuse

Chris Samuels was throwing up on the sideline during practice

Posted by: BeantownGreg1 | August 6, 2009 1:34 PM


I think it's time the NFL finally put a stop to player affiliation with gang culture.

Posted by: freakzilla | August 6, 2009 4:55 PM | Report abuse

Wouldn't he be "throwin' down" if he was in a gang?

Posted by: JohnDinHouston | August 6, 2009 4:56 PM | Report abuse

PSP - You got my 2 points mixed. Point 1 - Media. Point 2 - WTF is up wit Los?

Posted by: 4thFloor | August 6, 2009 5:00 PM | Report abuse

The throwing down is often preceded by the throwing up.

Posted by: freakzilla | August 6, 2009 5:00 PM | Report abuse

Just CUT these two clowns and get it over with already. Gee, thanks again Vinnie, great picks you made there. You must have really done your homework before that draft....geez.

Posted by: lt1z28 | August 6, 2009 5:04 PM | Report abuse

Have to wonder if they will even have an offense this year with the OL looking the way it is.

Posted by: periculum | August 6, 2009 4:36 PM

No offense. They're going to punt on first downs and let the defense win it for them. They're trying to trade Samuels for an elite DB and Portis for another LB.

Posted by: talent_evaluator | August 6, 2009 5:06 PM | Report abuse

Will they be allowed to play D with extra men on the field?

Posted by: JohnDinHouston | August 6, 2009 5:10 PM | Report abuse

Can Malcolm Kelly say a sentence without saying "you know"?

Posted by: jmy999 | August 6, 2009 5:12 PM | Report abuse

"...that guy on the Eagles got busted with pot?"

I don't see how that's a crime.

I mean, don't all birds fly high?

(INSERT rimshot audio to the backdrop of bored bloggas shouting, "See, I told you he wasn't funny or smart. He must be a dark-skinned negro.")

Posted by: MistaMoe | August 6, 2009 5:14 PM | Report abuse

"They've (M Kelly and D Thomas) got to know the difference from [an] injury and just being sore."

The difference is the dolla amount between a free agent and guaranteed contract.

Trust me: if them cats were two no name undrafted receivers, they'd practice naked in a Gay Pride Parade to make the team.

But because they got their pot o' gold on draft day, they perform like the rainbow symbolized all their efforts and everything else about them.

Posted by: MistaMoe | August 6, 2009 5:21 PM | Report abuse

From the Times:

Chris Samuels was throwing up on the sideline during practice


Boogie til you puke!! Drank with Root Boy at the Childe Harold Bar coupla times before he OD'ed ..Said he liked to go to NA meetings because the people there know where to score the best dope!! gablessim..

Posted by: frak | August 6, 2009 5:24 PM | Report abuse

whitepeopledonttalkaboutglacialissues or whitewomenloveblackmail or whatever your name is , you are a full-blown, ripe-for-the-pickin, Dumbass-Deluxe LOSE-SORE!!! Go gargle some Draino..

Posted by: frak | August 6, 2009 5:30 PM | Report abuse

No offense. They're going to punt on first downs and let the defense win it for them. They're trying to trade Samuels for an elite DB and Portis for another LB.

Posted by: talent_evaluator | August 6, 2009 5:06 PM

Comical.

Posted by: abxinc | August 6, 2009 5:37 PM | Report abuse

beeps.

RIP John Hughes :(

Posted by: Original_etrod | August 6, 2009 5:44 PM | Report abuse

Common Guys,

Why all you panicing so much. Let's wait till couple of pre-season games then we will worry about it. At this point everyone has a chance to get to that Lambardi Trophie...


Posted by: capitolteacher | August 6, 2009 2:33 PM

What is it that you teach exactly...misspelling 101?

Posted by: tripz | August 6, 2009 6:16 PM | Report abuse

I am imagining that a timing offense (what most of the sheep call a west coast O) doesn't require a great O line, since its about getting rid of the ball quickly

I also imagine we will be drafting multiple OL next year. The m.o. Has been taking multiple players to fill the same void. Need a WR draft 2 and a TE. Need a pass rusher, draft 2 and bring in a FA. Need OL.....

Posted by: pabrian2003 | August 6, 2009 6:21 PM | Report abuse

Thomas wasn't ineffective when he ran that TD

Posted by: pabrian2003

I couldn't agree more. After looking at his college highlights, he's got that one-step burst and shiftiness to make a few peeps miss in traffic, which he displayed on said TD. RemInds me of #89 a bit, but if I see another WR screen I'm going to puke my f-ing mustache off!

Quite a flash of promise if you ask me, just needs to stay healthy.

Posted by: RomoLongballs | August 6, 2009 7:54 PM | Report abuse

"The younger guys, they're kind of feeling their way," he said. "And when you get injured and actually have a lot of down time, it's something that makes you nervous about the next time. As they get older, they'll know more about how their bodies feel, how they prepare, what they can push through and what they can't."

Isn't that what the training staff is for??

Posted by: swalker5 | August 7, 2009 7:45 AM | Report abuse

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