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Expect to See Rogers Start, Jarmon on Active List

Just got a text from a source who had a few interesting tidbits about the Redskins' plans for the team's active roster against the Giants.

First, the most important news: cornerback Carlos Rogers will start, according to the source. Although everyone was saying late in the week that Rogers had fully recovered from the lingering calf injury that sidelined him for much of the preseason, the reality is that sometimes recoveries regress. But I was told to expect to see Rogers in the opening lineup.

Also, defensive tackle Anthony Montgomery is not expected to be active. With the arrival of defensive tackle Albert Haynesworth, Montgomery has been pushed down the depth chart.

Barring last-minute changes, there figures to be one surprising development with the inactive list: Rookie defensive end Jeremy Jarmon is expected to be active instead of veteran end Renaldo Wynn.

When I received the text about the roster, the first thing I thought was that my source must be wrong about this one. I mean, I know Vinny Cerrato, Washington's executive vice president of football operations, and coaches are excited about Jarmon's potential, but the Redskins have said they would take it slowly with the kid. And then he's active in Week 1 against an NFC East rival on the road?

Also, the Redskins brought back Wynn, I was told, to provide veteran leadership in the locker room and depth at both end positions on game days. Jarmon does not play both sides. And the main reason for having Wynn active, I would think, is because he played for the Giants last season.

Wouldn't the potential of having someone on the field, albeit briefly, with his experience and knowledge only benefit the team? But as soon as my source told me where he got the information, I was convinced.

Of course, anything could change between now and when the list must be submitted before kickoff. But based on what the source told me, this is what I'm expecting.

By Jason Reid  |  September 13, 2009; 10:04 AM ET
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I'm ready for the first game. And for the next 18!

Posted by: talent_evaluator | September 13, 2009 10:18 AM | Report abuse

Good signs all around. It was obvious last year that Zorn and Blache don't gift snaps and games to rookies, so if he's out there, he's earned it.

Posted by: psps23 | September 13, 2009 10:25 AM | Report abuse

I think management is making a mistake as far as Montgomerey is concerned,the kid can flat out ball,yeah i know they have depth but the kid is a monster(size wise) and never takes a play off when he gets the chance.Jason needs to stay upright for the DC11 to have a shot today the defense will keep Eli under wraps but THEY MUST STOP BRANDON JACOBS(he is the key) and we are going to need special teams to step up PREDICTION- WASH.24 NY16!!. LETS GO DC11!.

Posted by: dargregmag | September 13, 2009 10:26 AM | Report abuse

MY keys to the game:
1. Can the O-line hold up long enough to give JC time to throw?
2. Can the O-line open holes for Portis, Betts, etc?
3. Can the O get in a rythem early and sustain it?
4. Can the d-line put pressure on Eli and force turnovers?
5. Can LL step his game up please?

Quite the early test for our Skins, it would be great to see them click on all cylinders. Let's see some fire today boys, cause I'm fired up.......

Posted by: lurgee5177 | September 13, 2009 10:35 AM | Report abuse

My key to the game:

If we're within the 5 yard line, DON'T GIVE THE BALL TO BETTS!

Posted by: Dorf | September 13, 2009 10:43 AM | Report abuse

MY keys to the game:
1. Can the O-line hold up long enough to give JC time to throw?
2. Can the O-line open holes for Portis, Betts, etc?
3. Can the O get in a rythem early and sustain it?
4. Can the d-line put pressure on Eli and force turnovers?
5. Can LL step his game up please?

Quite the early test for our Skins, it would be great to see them click on all cylinders. Let's see some fire today boys, cause I'm fired up.......

Posted by: lurgee5177


1) Yes, if JC has learned to read defenses faster and shorten his long wind-up and delivery.

2) Yes, they've always been able to do that, but we need RB's that hit the holes quicker.

3) We'll see.

4) That's the $100,000,000 dollar question.....

5) Hmmm, I thought he was very good already? Guess I missed something there.

Posted by: 1965skinsfan | September 13, 2009 10:52 AM | Report abuse

Get the first stop, get the first score, and get after Eli.
~

Posted by: ifthethunderdontgetya | September 13, 2009 10:55 AM | Report abuse

I second that psp3! If Jarmon is active, he must have impressed the coaches. We have a good mix of grizzled vets in Griffin and Daniels and some young guns in Jarmon and Orakpo.

Stop trying to start stuff Jason

Posted by: rickyroge | September 13, 2009 11:00 AM | Report abuse

Jarmon played well in the preseason and deserves to be active.

Posted by: iseyij | September 13, 2009 11:03 AM | Report abuse

My key to the game:

If we're within the 5 yard line, DON'T GIVE THE BALL TO BETTS!

Posted by: Dorf | September 13, 2009 10:43 AM

My key? Get to the 5 yard line often.

Posted by: talent_evaluator | September 13, 2009 11:04 AM | Report abuse

To 1965SkinsFan;
Thats the frustrating part of JC.. He has many athletic skills.. But, even with 2-3 seconds to throw.. His windup and slow release allows a mediocre DB to recover his cover of the WR. A telegraphing windup is better than reading a QB's eyes... Thus the abysmal 40+ yards record for JC.. 3 all of last year.

Look at the Favre's, Garcia's and even Todd Collins etc.. They have a quick release that does not allow a DB to recover the separation they gave up to the WR.

It will be interesting if JC struggles and the only Redskin QB to last beat the Giants (and in the meadowlands.) a year and half ago.. is sitting on the bench (collins, 20 yards/completion, Eli 10 yards/per).

Does Zorn play to win and replace JC before the game is out of hand??.. Or does Zorn let JC stay in the game to protect his confidence and ego, regardless of the outcome?
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

1) Yes, if JC has learned to read defenses faster and shorten his long wind-up and delivery.
Posted by: 1965skinsfan | September 13, 2009 10:52 AM

Posted by: SkinsneedaGM | September 13, 2009 11:05 AM | Report abuse

To all the fake, unsteady Skins fans, again, and I repeat, the Skins will beat the Giants.
Granted, no one and no, so called TV analyst, is giving this group a chance, but they will all be disappointed because the Skins will beat the crap out of the Giants.

HAil!

Posted by: abxinc | September 13, 2009 11:07 AM | Report abuse

My prediction for today...... A pounding of the Ginas in a totally non sexual way

Posted by: iH8dallas | September 13, 2009 11:10 AM | Report abuse

As listed above, Oline and Dline play dictates all games. We are overmatched today when we have have the ball AND its true when we don't have it. QB play will be key, and the turnover/special teams factor looks like the difference.

Every year one or two teams emerges as an unexpected winner (see Titans 2008) -why not us?

Where are ya Moe? TE and Moe are why I check here...

Posted by: gufinufi | September 13, 2009 11:16 AM | Report abuse

My key? Get to the 5 yard line often.

Posted by: talent_evaluator
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If Suisham can't hack it from that close, maybe they should draft Maryland's freshman kicker.

Posted by: Dorf | September 13, 2009 11:20 AM | Report abuse

Mayor everyone blast the team about old players and not giving the young guys a chance and then when they do you think it is a bad idea. It's not Wynn is all pro or something. I like the move.

Posted by: jm220 | September 13, 2009 11:27 AM | Report abuse

What a great day.... There are some Analysts that have picked us...

Warren Sapp
Chris Mortenson
Adam Schefter

Tom Waddle on NFL Network basically laughed at even the thought that it would be close...... I'd like to beat that dude down! Happy Day...

HTTR,

CLEGG

Posted by: michael_b_clegg | September 13, 2009 11:28 AM | Report abuse

skins do.. problem is thats the red zone and more often that not it was 3 and out, last year. Hope they've (Zorn and JC) figured it out this year.
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My key? Get to the 5 yard line often.

Posted by: talent_evaluator

Posted by: SkinsneedaGM | September 13, 2009 11:29 AM | Report abuse

It was close score-wise last year (we only lost by 7 or 9 points last year), and we are better while the Giants have more weaknesses. Therefore, it's ludicrous to believe the game won't be close this year.

Posted by: JesusFreakKaren | September 13, 2009 11:32 AM | Report abuse

Damn if we do...damn if we don't

If we play the young guys, it's a surprise we don't stick with the veteran.


If we go with the veteran, we look slow and old and lack youth and depth.

Posted by: rickyroge | September 13, 2009 11:34 AM | Report abuse

Many reasons the Soups didn't hit the 40+ ball......
1. Broke OL
2. Only 1 target, Moss who was often doubled
3. See #1 and #2

CLEGG

Posted by: michael_b_clegg | September 13, 2009 11:34 AM | Report abuse

I'm really pleased to hear that Jarmon might be active this game. It bodes well for the team in the future to have two rookies in the front 7 with a high ceiling. Jarmon should help the pass rush.

Posted by: TWISI | September 13, 2009 11:35 AM | Report abuse

Aloha and Good AM. I'm LOVING that the Redskins are flying under the national radar and everybody is totally blowing the Giants and Eagles. Shawn Andrews is still in Philly...he won't play. Could get real sporty for Westbrook and Donovan. Who is Elisha gonna throw to? Remains to be seen whether one of the seven on their roster can step up and strike fear in a defense.

I really think the Redskins have addressed and improved the 3 areas that were holding them back last year: Dline, WR, and of course Oline.

Dline additions: Haynesworth, Philip Daniels, and this kid Jarmon. Great move there Vinny. This Dline is by all accounts better than last year, and I haven't even mentioned one Mr Orakpo. I think they will a) bring the heat and stuff the run, and b) have the depth to rotate for freshness and schemes.

WR: I look for MK12 to be a break out young star this year. He is healthy and along with DT11 give JC17 credible red zone targets with athleticism and size. ARE goes to the slot where he has always belonged.

Oline: Needs to stay healthy, but is better across the starting 5 than any unit containing the aging warriors Kendall and Jansen. Depth is still a concern, but is also improved albeit it slightly.

Lets get it on... Really looking forward to this Giants game to see if my theses can be proven. I am very quietly optimistic... I think many are overlooking the improvements the Redskins have made. We'll see...and that's why they play the games.

HAIL.

Posted by: SkinsfaninKaneohe | September 13, 2009 11:39 AM | Report abuse

clegg...you summed it up well. If you double Moss, who would have beat you...James Thrash?

We've got weapons now...we can go...

Moss, Kelly, Thomas ARE

Moss, Kelly, Thomas

Moss, Kelly, Mitchell

Moss, ARE, Cooley, Davis

What else?

Posted by: rickyroge | September 13, 2009 11:40 AM | Report abuse

Ricky,

Thank you sir! More importantly, that "big windup" doesn't matter if you don't have time for a 5 or 7 step drop... Besides, his big wind up is a little overrated, unless he starts doing the hesitation "pump",.... if we see that today, start hiding your eyes b/c that means he's confused...

CLEGG

Posted by: michael_b_clegg | September 13, 2009 11:46 AM | Report abuse

Skins 24-10

Posted by: wattsicon | September 13, 2009 11:50 AM | Report abuse

Skins 24-10

Posted by: wattsicon

co sign

Posted by: jm220 | September 13, 2009 11:51 AM | Report abuse

Is Langston Walker a Redskin next week?? Are they set on Mike Williams? Really?
These are the posts that i'd like to see more of... A lot of Vets on the street that are going to get signed next week since they aren't going to be "vested" since they were not on a Week 1 Roster.

CLEGG

Posted by: michael_b_clegg | September 13, 2009 11:51 AM | Report abuse

And BTW..

F!!! tom coughlin and F the giants!!!!!!

Posted by: SkinsfaninKaneohe | September 13, 2009 11:54 AM | Report abuse

HAIL Skins' Fans!!! HTTR!!

Skins score 31 points today!!

HAIL Victory!

Posted by: Curzon417 | September 13, 2009 11:56 AM | Report abuse

Keyshawn just said, "Cowboys won't make the playoffs and likely last in the division."

Wow! Nice to finally hear that about someone other than us. ( Not that it means a whole lot to me )

CLEGG

Posted by: michael_b_clegg | September 13, 2009 11:57 AM | Report abuse

thong panties

Posted by: noonefromtampa | September 13, 2009 11:58 AM | Report abuse

for sale on nflshop.com, but they don't come in my size

there are just what I needed to complete my game day outfit

darn it!

Posted by: noonefromtampa | September 13, 2009 11:59 AM | Report abuse

Skins 24-10

Posted by: wattsicon

co sign

Posted by: jm220 | September 13, 2009 11:51 AM |
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Hold on, I got 'em by more than 14.

Would you believe 26-11?

/Agent 86
~

Posted by: ifthethunderdontgetya | September 13, 2009 12:00 PM | Report abuse

I'll have to stick with the boxers

Posted by: noonefromtampa | September 13, 2009 12:01 PM | Report abuse

Jason -

Disagree with your Wynn/Jarmon discussion. Didn't see all the preseason games but when tuned in I mostly saw Wynn lying on his back. I'm all for the locker room stuff and knowing your opponent but the Skins need some new blood. The status quo will get us no better than 8-8, we've already proved that. The whole league is getting faster, faster, and faster. We need young legs in there just to keep pace. I'm all for the speed we've picked up on defense, just wish our offense had done the same. GO Skins!

Posted by: bones21 | September 13, 2009 12:04 PM | Report abuse

Wynn? What's the big deal if he's not active? He still travels and is on the sidelines. Is he not allowed to talk on the sidelines if he's not on the active 45? Really? Come on, that's silly. He can share any Giants knowledge active/inactive.

CLEGG

Posted by: michael_b_clegg | September 13, 2009 12:08 PM | Report abuse

Tom Waddle on NFL Network basically laughed at even the thought that it would be close...... I'd like to beat that dude down! Happy Day...

Posted by: michael_b_clegg | September 13, 2009 11:28 AM | Report abuse

Waddle is probably half brain dead from all the concussions his slow butt suffered when he was playing.
Wow, if Montgomery is inactive, isn't time to attempt to trade him for a draft pick to a team in need like the Panthers?

Posted by: ga8085 | September 13, 2009 12:09 PM | Report abuse

Skins ahead 10-7 at the half.
Giants win 24-17. Redskins D cant stop Jacobs in the 4th Qtr after continuous 3 and outs by the offense wears down the Skins D in the second half.. Hate to say it but, this was the problem last year (both losses).. And no major improvements in the O this year. Kelly has strong preseason stats... But, regular season game speed is far different.

All bets off though, if Collins has to come in... He was a Giant killer a year and half ago in the Meadowlands (20 yards per completion vs Eli at 10 yrds/per).

Posted by: SkinsneedaGM | September 13, 2009 12:13 PM | Report abuse

Keyshawn = maps

Posted by: Dorf | September 13, 2009 12:14 PM | Report abuse

If Jarmon plays Special Teams, then thats the difference. We have the DLine depth, we need guys who can contribute on STs

Posted by: gufinufi | September 13, 2009 12:15 PM | Report abuse

Landry or Horton will need a pick today to win this game. They will take their shots with Nicks. That kid is going to be great!

CLEGG

Posted by: michael_b_clegg | September 13, 2009 12:21 PM | Report abuse

This game is almost all upside for the Skins.

By any reasonable measure, THIS IS THE TOUGHEST GAME ON THE SCHEDULE. This jints are the best team the Skins face, beat them 2x last year. Plus its on the road and its the season opener.

A loss is not a season killer. It would actually have a very limited impact. Last year, the Skins lost the opener to ny and went on to win 6 of the next 7.

An upset win IS entirely possible. An upset win would be a huge statement about this team and its potential.

The Skins are capable of this upset, but I don't think this team is as ready for opening day as it could be.

Today's result has little downside, but a world of upside.

And, happy b-day to ME. My b-day wish: Skins 41, jints 0.

Posted by: zcezcest1 | September 13, 2009 12:30 PM | Report abuse

Happy B-Day Zeke!

Posted by: Curzon417 | September 13, 2009 12:35 PM | Report abuse

ZCE,

Happy bday,... however, teams that win the opening game are twice as likely (statistically) to make the playoffs as those that don't win.... I say we win instead of trying to find the bright spot! I do get the point of your post and agree, it's not season over if we lose.

CLEGG

Posted by: michael_b_clegg | September 13, 2009 12:35 PM | Report abuse

I think Jarmon will play teams and be in the rotation.

Key to the game is Redskins getting a lead with the new improved WR corps and forcing the giants to play from behind.

Whoever has the lead, particularly if its tow scores as the 4th opens will have the tactical and strategic advantage. That is admittedly a huge DUH type statement.

Redskins having the lead completely invalidates the Giants grind down the clock with Jacobs strategy. I would rather force elisha to beat us with an unproven WR corps while Blache is unleashing the hounds.

Posted by: SkinsfaninKaneohe | September 13, 2009 12:35 PM | Report abuse

beeps

Posted by: Curzon417 | September 13, 2009 12:37 PM | Report abuse

hope you get a "happy ending" for your birthday..
+++++++++++++++++++
Today's result has little downside, but a world of upside.

And, happy b-day to ME. My b-day wish: Skins 41, jints 0.

Posted by: zcezcest1 | September 13, 2009 12:30 PM

Posted by: SkinsneedaGM | September 13, 2009 12:39 PM | Report abuse

if Skins are behind 17-0 at the half.. (hopefully not) and the OLine cannot give JC more than 2 seconds.. Do you put in Collins with a quicker release?
Conundrum for Zorn.. He was hired as Head Coach to take a QB in the bottom 3rd of rankings into the top 3rd...
But, he is also in a Contract year and needs to win to remain HC.

Posted by: SkinsneedaGM | September 13, 2009 12:45 PM | Report abuse

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