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Fletcher's Solution for Defense's Problems

These days, you hear a lot of different things in the Redskins' locker room.

One player recently said the team has lacked an identity during its 1-2 start. Another basically said some of the younger guys simply don't "get it" about what's important when you make it to the NFL. And there has been a lot of chatter about Washington's talent level.

When I want to hear a clear, reasoned assessment of what's really going on in the locker room, and on the field, I find my way to middle linebacker London Fletcher's dressing stall. Fletcher is about as dependable as they come on and off the field -- and he definitely "gets it."

"I know what our identity is," Fletcher said. "For us defensively, we want to be a hard-nosed, tough, physical defense. One that doesn't give up big plays. Run to the ball, gap responsible and just play sound, fundamental football.

"Now, we didn't do it this last game. When you lose, it's very easy to lose sight of that whole thing [and say], 'Now we're not this.' We looked at the film. We understand what we need to do to get back to being the way we need to be."

Earlier this week, Fletcher provided some perspective on the Redskins' performance in saying the organization hasn't a great season in a long, long time. As for this season and the problems on defense, "if a call is made defensively, let's go out and execute that call," Fletcher said. "You look at the film, we're not executing our calls. It's as simple as that.

"So I don't know about identity. If the call is made and you ain't executing, the identity is you ain't executing the call. Let's just get back to doing that."

Gameday Goes Interactive

This week's opponent, Tampa Bay, hasn't stopped anyone on defense and Gameday breaks down the breakdowns. ... Over at the new Redskins Tailgate Zone, Matt McFarland brings up the "B" word -- booing.

The Friday Chat, Etc.

Jason Reid takes your questions at 11. ... Dan Steinberg bogged the other day about Marty Fischer, a Redskins fan from way back and the son of former player Pat Fischer. ... Speaking of Steinberg, he reaches out to Mike Florio in a really affectionate way in this week's Redskins Insider podcast. (See the linkalicious box in the upper left corner for the link on our site, the iTunes download and RSS feed... Comedian and Redskins fan Danny Rouhier took the loss in Detroit reasonably well.

Pick Against Wilbon. You Know You Want To.

Mike Wilbon's Week 4 picks are up and you can jump into the Post Pick 'Em game.

Elsewhere in the NFL ...

The Giants have lost safety Kenny Phillips to microfracture knee surgery, Mark Maske reports. ... At The League, the question of the day concerns Michael Vick and product endorsements. Who would hire him as a spokesman and is it too soon?

By Jason Reid  |  October 2, 2009; 7:15 AM ET
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Comments

FIRST to say London is our only consistent defensive player

Posted by: Kenbeatrizz | October 2, 2009 7:49 AM | Report abuse

FIRST to say the solution is simple: play Orakpo at DE!

Posted by: brownwood26 | October 2, 2009 7:53 AM | Report abuse

London Fletcher ain't nothing but a football player. If the Redskins had eleven of him on defense then they'd have the NFL's shortest #1 defense in history.

Posted by: RedSkinHead | October 2, 2009 7:58 AM | Report abuse

I'm watching the WNBA game between Indy and the Phynx' and the crawl across the bottom of the screen goes Jerry Jones announces that his running back probably will be out for the next game.

And I'm saying, Damn, where did Dan Snyder go. These Fans and Pundits have punked him way back in the background and he never says nothing about his Team.

Not one mumbling word. Is that how we really want Dan Snyder to run this Team? I don't think so.

He made his mistakes starting out, and he listened to everybody saying he don't know nothing about football, and he needs to let the real football folks handle the Team, and Yada, yada, yada.

Well I am here to tell yawl that Dan Snyder needs to speak up about his Team. Is he running this Team in absentia or something, or what?

He needs to be up front and proactive and maybe this Team might have the guts to step up and be SOMEBODY!!!

RIGHT NOW, THE REDSKINS ARE PLAYING FOR A OWNER THAT MAKES NO PUBLIC ANNOUCEMENTS OR ANY OPINIONS ABOUT HIS TEAM THAT HE PAID 800 MILLIONS DOLLARS TO OWN AND RUN. IS IT ANY WONDER WE DON'T HAVE AN IDENTITY?

COME ON DAN SNYDER, SHOW SOME GUTS IN PUBLIC AND MAYBE YOUR TEAM WILL ON SUNDAYS. STOP LISTENING TO THESE FANS THAT SAY YOU DON'T HAVE A SAY IN THIS ORGANIZATION, BECAUSE THEY THINK YOU DON'T KNOW HOW TO RUN THIS FOOTBALL TEAM.

STAND UP AND PROVE THEM WRONG!!!

Does Daniel Synder even have a weekly press conference anymore that anyone is reporting on?

LarryInClintonMD.

Posted by: LarryInClintonMD | October 2, 2009 7:59 AM | Report abuse

Brownwood I agree with you. We got guys playing positons that are not natural to them and that includes Dirty Thirty. Not taking full advantage of the players we have is one of the biggest problems of this team. You have a 6'2, 6'4, and 6'4 WR on the team and in the read zone 9 out of 10 times you have all of them on the bench. Not smart or taking full advantage of the talent you have.

Posted by: jm220 | October 2, 2009 8:01 AM | Report abuse

"I'm watching the WNBA game"

Was this an attempt at humor...or were you being serious??

While I agree that guys are playing out of position, that doesn't excuse Landry's lack of ANYTHING contributing to this team...the missed tackles, the lack of big hits, big plays, he's gotta be next to get benched....

Posted by: BeantownGreg1 | October 2, 2009 8:11 AM | Report abuse

B It wasn't an excuse for Dirty Thirty. If I was the coach his as* would be still running for all the miss tackles.

Posted by: jm220 | October 2, 2009 8:14 AM | Report abuse

London Fletcher ain't nothing but a football player. If the Redskins had eleven of him on defense then they'd have the NFL's shortest #1 defense in history.

Posted by: RedSkinHead | October 2, 2009 7:58 AM | Report abuse

They would set records for fewest yards and points allowed all without having 1 single pro bowler.

Posted by: PAskinsfan17 | October 2, 2009 8:17 AM | Report abuse

jm, agreed, heck, I'd bench him along with horton, start doughty, and see if Kareem Moore can tackle.....

Posted by: BeantownGreg1 | October 2, 2009 8:19 AM | Report abuse

LaRon Landry is one safety asked to do the job of two safeties. In most other defenses you see both safeties deep. In
the majority of the plays the Redskins run, Landry is the only one deep. Remember Doughty's tackle for a loss in the game on Sunday? The only reason why Doughty could make it was because he is prowling close to the line of scrimmage. So, who you have the corners in man defense and the free safety playing deep prevent. That's the reason why you see Landry always running in after the catch. It is the corner that has lost his man. Guys like D. Hall are gambling, and guys like Fred Smoot are getting beat in a foot race. I don't think Blache is going to move Landry to strong safety because Landry is the only safety they have that can cover that much ground. Landry would look a lot better if the corners would do their jobs. He'd also look better if he had the company of another safety deep, but then Blache can't free a man to blitz or cover short.

Posted by: RedSkinHead | October 2, 2009 8:22 AM | Report abuse

Is now the time to move Orakpo back to DE?

I think so.

If LB depth is the issue, can't we play 5 DBs and move Landry or Doughty forward to play the run?

Isn't it time to give the kid Barnes a chance in a 5 DB package?

Or should I just start praying for Taylor Mays now?

Posted by: stevebeagrie | October 2, 2009 8:37 AM | Report abuse

Laron Landry is typically asked to do the work of two men.

"As long as one of them's not Chad Rinehart", he replies.

Posted by: daggar | October 2, 2009 8:37 AM | Report abuse

Red him being deep have nothng to do with basic tackling form. His form has suck this year and has nothing to with how far back he plays. We do agree that Blache has to move him up. F this bend don't break D.

Posted by: jm220 | October 2, 2009 8:39 AM | Report abuse

Hardcore BeanTown Hardcore!

Posted by: LarryInClintonMD | October 2, 2009 8:39 AM | Report abuse

Smoot gets beaten like a drum on every 3rd down. I think he might be the next guy benched, if they still can't get off the field on 3rd down.

Well...maybe not, considering there is nothing but unknowns behind him.

Tryon looked pretty terrible in preseason.

Has Barnes been active at all?

Posted by: Yoder-lay-hee-who | October 2, 2009 8:41 AM | Report abuse

d 30 has not been the same player he was since his brother was seriously injured in b more. he has to let that go and start being the player we all beleive he can be.

Posted by: rls1041 | October 2, 2009 8:41 AM | Report abuse

I keep hearing rave reviews about the Jets Defense.

What are they doing that we cannot do?

Posted by: LarryInClintonMD | October 2, 2009 8:43 AM | Report abuse

I keep hearing rave reviews about the Jets Defense.

What are they doing that we cannot do?

Posted by: LarryInClintonMD | October 2, 2009 8:43 AM | Report abuse

Stopping people on third down. Yes it's really that simple.

Put Karrem Moore in at Free safety, move Laron back to the line and let Barnes play for Smoot. Then, on third down blitz the ever loving dog crap out of the other team.

Posted by: PAskinsfan17 | October 2, 2009 8:46 AM | Report abuse

"I'm watching the WNBA game"

Was this an attempt at humor...or were you being serious??

Yep, BeanTownGreg1, I was actually watching the WNBA finals between Indiana and Phoenix. Games 1 & 2 have been great competitive games.

If the Redskins played with the fire those two Teams play with, we would be 3-0.

By the way, those two Teams have been prepared and in Game shape the entire season.

Can't say the same about our Redskins.

LarryInClintonMD.

Posted by: LarryInClintonMD | October 2, 2009 8:50 AM | Report abuse

Everybody see the high school play in Vermont where a potential game tying field goal attempt fell short at the gun, only the other team caught it, started celebrating, spiked it, and the kicking team picked it up and ran it in for the win?

That may happen to us this year.

Posted by: Rypien11 | October 2, 2009 8:50 AM | Report abuse

Don't get me wrong, I love Smoot. He's my favorite player Monday - Saturday.

Posted by: Yoder-lay-hee-who | October 2, 2009 8:54 AM | Report abuse

"I want Blache as my life coach."

I wouldn't.

If he looked around the NFL, he'd see the redskins' defensive issues come from runnning a scheme that been scouted-out.

The skins defense--in terms of scheme and alignment--looks the same game after game.

When you watch NFC/AFC Playbook on the NFL Network and see how other defenses create problems for opposing offenses by using 'confusion,' you see why the skins fail: they don't hide what they are trying to do.

The skins don't play hybrid looks even where they have the players to experiment with 3-4/4-3 shifts during a quarterback's cadence.

But the defense can be forgiven for its issues as it has at least carried the team for a few years.

The defense will wil improve the deeper we get into the season--the talent is too strong to continue failing.


Posted by: MistaMoe | October 2, 2009 8:58 AM | Report abuse

Greg Blache saying, "I'll dive under the bus" is Jim Zorn's way of saying, "Look, there's a duck!"

Posted by: RedSkinHead | October 2, 2009 9:00 AM | Report abuse

Greg, don't jump under that bus! I think Vinny is driving.

Posted by: RedSkinHead | October 2, 2009 9:02 AM | Report abuse

I keep hearing rave reviews about the Jets Defense.

What are they doing that we cannot do?

Posted by: LarryInClintonMD | October 2, 2009 8:43 AM | Report abuse


The Jets play defense with DISCIPLINE and blitz 63% of the time.

We cannot trust our players to be disciplined so even if we did blitz close to that much we would still give up the big plays. London hit the nail on the head (as he usually does) when he said they just need to get back to executing. In other words, do what you are paid millions of dollars to do. Nothing more, nothing less.

Posted by: NYSkinsFan1 | October 2, 2009 9:02 AM | Report abuse

I keep hearing rave reviews about the Jets Defense.
What are they doing that we cannot do?
Posted by: LarryInClintonMD | October 2, 2009 8:43 AM

The jets are playing “hard nosed” aggressive D, having taken on the personality of their new HC. Our defense is playing medium, bend but don’t break ball, with the medium personality of our HC…in other words, they have gotten soft.

Posted by: dlhaze1 | October 2, 2009 9:06 AM | Report abuse

"What are they doing that we cannot do?"

They run the confusion based 3-4/4-3 ravens defense that Ryan used while he was the coordinator there.

They stop people by hiding what they are trying to do.

It's easy to beat an NFL defense when the guys line up in the same spots and do the same things week after week for multiple years.

And the skins have been running the same scheme with the same personnel since the days of Grilliams--only Haynesworth, Orakpo, Horton are new starters.

That's why Blache must tinker with the scheme or get in an unemployment line.

If Zorn was managing the entire team and not just the offense, he could step into the defensive team's meetings and express this concern.

But he doesn't, so he can't.

Posted by: MistaMoe | October 2, 2009 9:07 AM | Report abuse

Yeah, the one thing that sticks in my craw about the situationally PC interview Fletch gave - while he's talking about executing, he's not talking about whether that's even executable by this D.

Comments about Jets D are right on.

Posted by: DikShuttle | October 2, 2009 9:09 AM | Report abuse

No Doubt MistaMoe.

They are way to predictable. Add that to the complete lack of discipline and you get what we've seen time and time again. Teams can't wait to get our D to third down. At least then they know exactly what to expect and even teams like the Lions can move up and down the field at will.

Posted by: NYSkinsFan1 | October 2, 2009 9:10 AM | Report abuse

The problem with our defense is we don't blitz enough. We can't just get pressure on the QB with one DE Andre Carter. Daniels is way too old to create a consistent rush. Orakpo may be the answer at DE.

Posted by: joeboggs | October 2, 2009 9:13 AM | Report abuse

Could we do a 3-4? I'd assume big Al would be the NT with Phil Daniels and Lorenzo Alexander as the DEs. Linebacker would be a mess to figure out. We'd want Orakpo and Carter on the outside with McIntosh and Fletcher inside. I think it could work.

Posted by: PAskinsfan17 | October 2, 2009 9:15 AM | Report abuse

Could we do a 3-4? I'd assume big Al would be the NT with Phil Daniels and Lorenzo Alexander as the DEs. Linebacker would be a mess to figure out. We'd want Orakpo and Carter on the outside with McIntosh and Fletcher inside. I think it could work.

Posted by: PAskinsfan17 | October 2, 2009 9:15 AM

Carter was not a good LB in San Fran. They tried him. We really don't have the personnel for a 3-4 (IMO). I think we should keep Orakpo at DE and let Wilson and Blades hold down that SLB position.

Posted by: scampbell1975 | October 2, 2009 9:19 AM | Report abuse

We don't have the personell for anything else we run, why not that, too...?

Posted by: DikShuttle | October 2, 2009 9:22 AM | Report abuse

We don't have the personell for anything else we run, why not that, too...?

Posted by: DikShuttle | October 2, 2009 9:22 AM |

If we can't effectively run the system we do know why would you want to change it to a system we don't know and didn't collect players for? Seems that makes something that is already not good very bad.

Posted by: scampbell1975 | October 2, 2009 9:24 AM | Report abuse

I am sick and tired or maybe tired and sick of everyone talking aout execution !!!

It does not matter if you execute the play perfectly !!! If you are running the wrong play for the defense or ofense that you are executing it against !!

If the other team has your lack of creative calls on offense and defense figured out in advance you limit your chances for success !!!!!

THE GOAL IS TO CALL A PLAY THAT THE OTHER TEAM IS NOT PREPARED FOR!!!

Posted by: LETJASONPASS | October 2, 2009 9:25 AM | Report abuse

News Update:

David Letterman has admitted to having 'improper' relations with various women on his show's production staff.

I guess that's why his company is called World Wide Pants--the thing inside is that big.

While begging the Olympic Committee to let Chicago host the 2016 games, President Obama stopped to hand the mic to Kanye West who stated that only retarded people perform in the olympics.

That's why the games are special.

The best Halloween costume this year reportedly is that of a kid dressed as process server who knocks on a door and hands you a foreclosure notice being shouting "Trick or treat"!

The sports world is aghast at the notion that something called the WNBA still exists.

We end with a short list of games that are must viewing for the weekend:

LSU V. Georgia

Jets v. Saints

Ravens v. Pats

Vikes v. Packers

Stillers v. Chargers

We are optimistic and see the skins winning 31-21 Sunday against the toothless Bucs.

Peace.

Posted by: MistaMoe | October 2, 2009 9:29 AM | Report abuse

Great, throw the new kid under the bus... Calling out Horton and benching him for 1 messed up play!?!?!?! How about the high priced CB's that are getting toasted eacha dn every week! Rogers got twisted around and burned for a TD. and had many missed tackles as did D Hall. THey get burned so much that Laundry has to cover for both of them!!!

Posted by: job22 | October 2, 2009 9:32 AM | Report abuse

If we can't effectively run the system we do know why would you want to change it to a system we don't know and didn't collect players for? Seems that makes something that is already not good very bad.

Posted by: scampbell1975 | October 2, 2009 9:24 AM | Report abuse

All we would want to do is try to disguise who is rushing the passer. The Steelers do this and so do the Jets and Ravens. We show 3-4 and 4-3 on the same play by having guys walk up to the line and then drop back. We aren't necassarily switching schemes as much as hiding pass rushers. They will know we are rushing 3 but they don't know who the other rusher(s) are.

Posted by: PAskinsfan17 | October 2, 2009 9:33 AM | Report abuse

I been saying for the longest why not use the 4 safeties b/c the secondary is the strongest on the team take out line backer and put in horton and landry at line backer kareem moore and doughty at safety on the field on third down long plays put orakpo on the end with hanesworth in middle carter and phillips in the game with smoot in the nickle in the game on third and long b/c they not gone run it on third and 10 and up that way u can have our best players on the field and u can blitz from any angle

Posted by: chinngy23 | October 2, 2009 9:34 AM | Report abuse

scampbell1975

"If we can't effectively run the system we do know why would you want to change it to a system we don't know and didn't collect players for?"


The talent level in the NFL is too strong for any team to think it can do the same things week in and week out.

I think the skins run their defensive system well.

But other teams have seen it so often, they know how to attack it just as well.

Posted by: MistaMoe | October 2, 2009 9:38 AM | Report abuse

Springs led the D one year in sacks with 6 I think. I see no reason why DHall couldn't be used in the same way. He's fast and a ballhawk, maybe he can get some sack/strip fumbles. His 10 yard cushion and lack of covering aren't doing much good anyway.

Posted by: ToddStinkston | October 2, 2009 9:42 AM | Report abuse

I still think that they should line Rak up on the outside shoulder of either the left or right DE, and give him a free run at the qb....move him around, don't let the offense key on where he is....make them take into account where he is on every play, don't just line him up in the same spot time and time again....

Posted by: BeantownGreg1 | October 2, 2009 9:50 AM | Report abuse

defensive systems don't work well when there are prima donnas in it trying to steal the show. And Blache, I'm sorry to say this, is playing a dated style of defense that is minimal on blitzing. Back in the day defenses went full coverage. Nowadays the best d's are those that bring constant pressure. The skins haven't had that since Mann/Manley

Posted by: pgugino | October 2, 2009 9:53 AM | Report abuse

I still think that they should line Rak up on the outside shoulder of either the left or right DE, and give him a free run at the qb....move him around, don't let the offense key on where he is....make them take into account where he is on every play, don't just line him up in the same spot time and time again....

Posted by: BeantownGreg1 | October 2, 2009 9:50 AM | Report abuse

Yeah Bean...I just want us to be aggressive and unpredictable again. I'd love to see a few all-out blitzes, leaving our corners with one-on-one matchups...after all if you are gonna put that kind of investment into DHall, you gotta trust him, right?

Posted by: mattylight | October 2, 2009 9:54 AM | Report abuse

every down Rak plays at OLB instead of DE is a waste to his development. News flash to Blache: teams don't throw the ball only on third & long.

Posted by: pgugino | October 2, 2009 9:55 AM | Report abuse

I still think that they should line Rak up on the outside shoulder of either the left or right DE, and give him a free run at the qb....move him around, don't let the offense key on where he is....make them take into account where he is on every play, don't just line him up in the same spot time and time again....

Posted by: BeantownGreg1 | October 2, 2009 9:50 AM | Report abuse

It also seems like he's the only one we blitz. I haven't seen McIntosh or any corner or safety blitzes. Send Laron on a delayed blitz. That should cause a young QB to evacuate his bowls.

Posted by: PAskinsfan17 | October 2, 2009 9:55 AM | Report abuse

I meant bowels not bowls.

Posted by: PAskinsfan17 | October 2, 2009 9:58 AM | Report abuse

Prediction time: The Redskins are not done toying with our emotions this year...Redskins win 34-10.

Posted by: mhaslup1 | October 2, 2009 10:02 AM | Report abuse

I think that in order to get pressure, you have to make the other team face instantaneous choices...the Tackle can either block Rak, or PD/AC, depending on what side he's on....make them start to think, instead of merely reacting...something just to get them out of the school of thought that they simply need to block the guy in front of them....twists, stunts...something..

Posted by: BeantownGreg1 | October 2, 2009 10:04 AM | Report abuse

It also seems like he's the only one we blitz. I haven't seen McIntosh or any corner or safety blitzes. Send Laron on a delayed blitz. That should cause a young QB to evacuate his bowls.

Posted by: PAskinsfan17 | October 2, 2009 9:55 AM | Report abuse

I've seen McIntosh blitz a couple times this year and I've seen Doughty blitz. Landry is a great blitzer, which is why we need a true free safety so we can move him back to strong safety. He needs to be up at the line of scrimmage.

Posted by: mhaslup1 | October 2, 2009 10:05 AM | Report abuse

I meant bowels not bowls.

Posted by: PAskinsfan17 | October 2, 2009 9:58 AM | Report abuse

Bowls is better.

Posted by: mhaslup1 | October 2, 2009 10:06 AM | Report abuse

I wouldn't mind having my emotional chain jerked in a positive direction for a change.

Here's to wishin' & hopin' you are right m-has...

Posted by: chrislarry | October 2, 2009 10:11 AM | Report abuse

That should cause a young QB to evacuate his bowls.

Posted by: PAskinsfan17 | October 2, 2009 9:55 AM |

Espc if they are bowls of Cap'n Crunch. Ummmmm! Scarf them babies down! I just evacuated several myself for breakfast. Pretty pretty pretty pretty pretty tasty.

Posted by: DukeNewkem | October 2, 2009 10:20 AM | Report abuse

SIX FLAGS TEAMS WITH REDSKINS FOR FRIGHT FEST PROMOTION

In a clever cross-marketing initiative designed to celebrate the Halloween season throughout the month of October, the Washington Redskins are teaming up with the Washington area Six Flags amusement park franchise to offer a month-long Fright Fest for Washington area football fans, friends and families.

Everyone attending the Redskin home games at FEDEX Field this October will be invited to enter the spirit of the Halloween season by shouting out loud, rousing and offensive BOOS and catcalls every time a Redskin player makes another boneheaded play. The most obnoxious fans will then be given an opportunity to text and tweet their sentiments to selected members of the Washington inactive player bench and practice squads – and earn free tickets to the nearby Six Flags amusement park to enjoy the park’s ongoing Fright Fest celebration.

The fun begins on October 4 when the Washington Redskins host the Tampa Bay Buccaneers in a battle for burial in the graveyard of the National Football League standings.

In keeping with the spirit of the season, the Redskins will dress several players in Halloween-themed costumes, including a dim candlelit pumpkin head of a quarterback (Jack O’Lantern Campbell), several zombies awkwardly shuffling their way through the final years of their contracts, a mere skeleton of a functional offensive line, and a defensive secondary that is said to be even more porous and wispy than the Ghostly Trio.

Also scheduled to appear (subject to availability) are Invisible Man Clinton Portis and Big Blobby Albert Haynesworth.

Posted by: Vic1 | October 2, 2009 10:21 AM | Report abuse

SIX FLAGS TEAMS WITH REDSKINS FOR FRIGHT FEST PROMOTION

Posted by: Vic1 | October 2, 2009 10:21 AM |

Here's a better idea. In order to draw more crowds SF should set up a "haunted house" guaranteed to scare customers silly with darkened rooms looping video clips from the Skins games. Guaranteed scream for mercy inducer - the three DB whiff on Mannigham's TD reception in the Giants game.

Posted by: DukeNewkem | October 2, 2009 10:35 AM | Report abuse

Back to my comment RE mis-diagnosing the porblems on D...

..The fact that they're using Durdy (Ugly?) Thurdy as a FS is fully indicative of the problem. Here's a guy who's full strength is hitting people and they want him to play coverage roles?

His speed makes him an asset when coverage is called for, but his force (IF he connects) is what defines him as a player. And while the secondary could use tackling lessons, I believe it's more role confusion that is causing the issue, as Fletch indicated.

Maybe this is what Blache (Blocky) is referring to when he takes responsibility?
It's understandable to point out the gaffes on gametape - but just noticing who missed the assignment isn't going to fix the problem.

I was working on some metaphor w/ different types of race cars... but my brain hurtz.

Rok Rok AUN!

...and HAIL!

btw-I'm full on rockin' the Maroon & Black taday.. eh... Burgundy & Gold... catching lots of flac.... worth it.

Posted by: DikShuttle | October 2, 2009 10:35 AM | Report abuse

....And I don't need a haunted house or themepark...

...I have enough bad dreams from the past 3 weeks...

Posted by: DikShuttle | October 2, 2009 10:37 AM | Report abuse

"Espc if they are bowls of Cap'n Crunch."

Cap’n Crunch's Crunch Berries.

Get it right.

Posted by: RedDMV | October 2, 2009 10:41 AM | Report abuse

look whose talkin....

Captain Crunch Scrapple Berries....get it right....

Posted by: BeantownGreg1 | October 2, 2009 10:43 AM | Report abuse

Vic1,
Halloween costumes on the defensive players? Ahhh, so that's how Blache is going to disguise his blitzes...

Posted by: RedSkinHead | October 2, 2009 10:46 AM | Report abuse

Vic - do you take the time to make up all of these things, or do you just copy and paste them from elsewhere?

Maybe you should find a job...

Posted by: Rypien11 | October 2, 2009 10:50 AM | Report abuse

Too many problems, same old problems for so many years. You can't pick out just one thing. But I can. THERE IS NO TEAM UNITY. Football is the ULTIMATE TEAM SPORT! There is NO ACCOUNTABILITY. YOU HAVE LEFT THE HIGH PROFLE PLAYERS CALLING THERE OWN GAPS AND CALLING THEIR OWN PRACTICE SCHEDULE. YOU HAVE COACHES THAT ARE POWERLESS. Look at this Zorn from no where pick as a HC. Not since Marty did we have a coach that ran this mental institution that we call the redskins. No role players everybody wants to be a star everybody wants the paycheck. Then the one thing you try to exhibit Discipline is bench HORTON for DOUGHTY! PLEASE........

Posted by: sthai75 | October 2, 2009 11:00 AM | Report abuse

LL has not been the same since B. Jacobs took his soul last season.

I miss ST.

Posted by: eanderson4 | October 2, 2009 11:05 AM | Report abuse

I think the Redskins could use this game to make some aggressive tweaks to their offensive and defensive playbooks. Tampa Bay is a great team to experiment on. They have a paper thin defense and they're starting a newbie at QB. I say unchain the dogs and get out of the box. I'm not talking about more of Jim Zorn's special trick plays, but maybe some stuff that doesn't quite fit into his imaginary west coast offense box. On defense, they can blitz like crazy. The only thing I worry about on defense is TB's QB is a scrambler and the Redskins were burned last week by some long QB scrambles. Somebody needs to spy on the QB and knock his block off if he dares run past the line of scrimmage. I also think it is a perfect time to rest Portis. Why subject him to more injury? Better to let him get better and be ready for the tougher games later in the season. AND maybe it is time to give Mike Williams the start at right tackle. That move will help the running game and maybe balance out the fact that Portis won't be playing...

Posted by: RedSkinHead | October 2, 2009 11:06 AM | Report abuse

Beantown, you are an Eeeeevil Geeeeeenious

I'm going to make Scrapple w/ Crunchberries... that's going to be

AWESMOE!!

Posted by: DikShuttle | October 2, 2009 11:07 AM | Report abuse

This sexy right here:

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/3/3c/Scrapple_1.jpg

All that's missing is a fried egg with cheese on it. Or scrambled cheese eggs.

Posted by: RedDMV | October 2, 2009 11:07 AM | Report abuse

Ryp --

Thanks for asking. I write my own material and already have a job, thanks.

Also don't mean to offend anyone who doesn't have a reason to take offense.

Likewise, am curious to know why you might be interested in anything that I might have to say.

Posted by: Vic1 | October 2, 2009 11:10 AM | Report abuse

We end with a short list of games that are must viewing for the weekend:

LSU V. Georgia
Jets v. Saints
Ravens v. Pats
Vikes v. Packers
Stillers v. Chargers

We are optimistic and see the skins winning 31-21 Sunday against the toothless Bucs.

Posted by: MistaMoe | October 2, 2009 9:29 AM

Yet Clemson v. Maryland (ESPNU), featuring the much ballyhooed C.J. Spiller, evades mention.

[For those in the area with cable, lemme know how this goes.]

Posted by: dcsween | October 2, 2009 11:14 AM | Report abuse

This sexy right here:

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/3/3c/Scrapple_1.jpg

All that's missing is a fried egg with cheese on it. Or scrambled cheese eggs.

Posted by: RedDMV | October 2, 2009 11:07 AM | Report abuse

you better get some maple syrup on that scrapple

Posted by: PAskinsfan17 | October 2, 2009 11:14 AM | Report abuse

This sexy right here:

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/3/3c/Scrapple_1.jpg

All that's missing is a fried egg with cheese on it. Or scrambled cheese eggs.

Posted by: RedDMV

Sounds good to me. How do you feel about soft shell crab sandwiches? That's another eastern shore delicacy that I miss now that I am in the great white North.

Posted by: RedSkinHead | October 2, 2009 11:18 AM | Report abuse

PASkins, that's what the pancakes are for.

Toast, scrambled cheese eggs, regular pancakes with maple syrup (Auntie J), with one or two pieces of scrapple, and OJ or milk to drink.

Championship.

Posted by: RedDMV | October 2, 2009 11:19 AM | Report abuse

Maintaining my "self imposed banishment"' from da blog is proving to be a challenge.

(quoting the man with the prophetic handle, 4-12)

Let me just say that Vic1 is a funny person and that I enjoy his material...

Posted by: Chia_Pet | October 2, 2009 11:21 AM | Report abuse

red, when it comes to maple syrup, its either the real stuff, or nothing at all.....

Posted by: BeantownGreg1 | October 2, 2009 11:23 AM | Report abuse

So.... basically my life sucks and da blog, even at it's worst, is still a bright shiny thing.

Posted by: Chia_Pet | October 2, 2009 11:23 AM | Report abuse

Never had a soft shell crab sandwich, but I like the sound of it for sure. Growing up in this area, it's mandatory that you eat seafood.

I'm thinking the bread should probably be lightly buttered.

I had salmon patties, crab cake, and teriyaki shrimp with rice for lunch the other day... The bomb diggity I tell you.

Posted by: RedDMV | October 2, 2009 11:24 AM | Report abuse

They need to lower the price of maple syrup.

I always put it back on the shelf.

Posted by: Chia_Pet | October 2, 2009 11:25 AM | Report abuse

Most definitely, bean. Never been a fan of exotic flavored syrup. No blueberry, strawberry, or whatever other syrup they have.

Same with pancakes. No chocolate chip, strawberry, blueberry, or banana pancakes.

They're just pancakes. Breakfast food. no need to reinvent the wheel with that.

Posted by: RedDMV | October 2, 2009 11:28 AM | Report abuse

Where is Mr. Shaun Sherman?

I need a rousing kick in the pants to snap me out of this funk...

Posted by: Chia_Pet | October 2, 2009 11:29 AM | Report abuse

Gee.

I wish I had a good job in computers so I could get paid to blog on RI.

No such luck, so off to earn my measly...

Posted by: Chia_Pet | October 2, 2009 11:31 AM | Report abuse

I live in Syracuse, New York and the maples syrup up here is straight from the source and not too pricey. AND you're right, that artificial stuff doesn't even come close...

Posted by: RedSkinHead | October 2, 2009 11:32 AM | Report abuse

Vic - not interested in the content, just the fact that every time I try to read through information on here I have to scroll through huge blocks of text from you.

Posted by: Rypien11 | October 2, 2009 11:32 AM | Report abuse

PASkins, that's what the pancakes are for.

Toast, scrambled cheese eggs, regular pancakes with maple syrup (Auntie J), with one or two pieces of scrapple, and OJ or milk to drink.

Championship.

Posted by: RedDMV | October 2, 2009 11:19 AM | Report abuse

Try sauteeing scrapple in grape jelly or maple syrup. This works well with sausage and little smokies too. The syrup/jelly carmelizes and omg I just ___ed in my pants.

Posted by: PAskinsfan17 | October 2, 2009 11:33 AM | Report abuse

Most definitely, bean. Never been a fan of exotic flavored syrup. No blueberry, strawberry, or whatever other syrup they have.

Same with pancakes. No chocolate chip, strawberry, blueberry, or banana pancakes.

They're just pancakes. Breakfast food. no need to reinvent the wheel with that.

Posted by: RedDMV | October 2, 2009 11:28 AM | Report abuse


I think bean might be referring to Real Maple Syrup, not fake Aunt J. syrup.

Posted by: gatorskinz2000 | October 2, 2009 11:33 AM | Report abuse

Actually, put some crunchy peanut butter (AND butter - very important) on the pancakes w/ the Maple Syrup!!! That's good too. (agreed on the special syrups.. why?)

My Fish-etarian mother makes a mean homemade strawberry yogurt that goes pretty good on pancakes, tho. So sometimes that...

But the scrapple rulez
Jimmy Dean droolz

Posted by: DikShuttle | October 2, 2009 11:34 AM | Report abuse

good call gator...yeah the real stuff is where its at....none of the Aunt J, Mrs. B, junk....gimme the real stuff right from the sugar shack...

Posted by: BeantownGreg1 | October 2, 2009 11:36 AM | Report abuse

I made whole wheat pancakes with real maple syrup and smoked bacon a few nights ago for dinner for the fam...

Breakfast, its not just for breakfast anymore...

(Please note that its week 4 and the RI faithful already in mid off-season jibba jabba form due to utter dullness and depressing Skins issues to discuss....will someone make a mutha luvin' play!)

Posted by: chrislarry | October 2, 2009 11:37 AM | Report abuse

I know this is a Skins blog so I will make this short and not so sweet:

1. Letterman. Sarah Palin's daughter and stupping his staff? The dude's in his sixties. This is something you would expect from a randy twenty-something.

2. Polanski. Never paid much attention until now. He had nonconsensual sex with a minor (i.e., rape) and was never seriously punished. Where were the girl's parents in all this? Him alone with her in Nicholson's pad. Jesus.

Posted by: DukeNewkem | October 2, 2009 11:38 AM | Report abuse

my opinion of letterman went up, if you have ever watched him with a hot female guest u know he is a dog....

plus have u seen his wife/long time gf? Yikes i would cheat too.

Posted by: chrislarry | October 2, 2009 11:42 AM | Report abuse

mmmmmmm....bacon....cl NAILED it however....for crying out loud, can someone step up versus the lowly bucs this weekend...don't get me wrong, I'm a big fan of the jibba-jabba, however I'd rather be talking about the offense scoring 4 td's.....bacon is good and all...

As far as RPolanski goes, according to Whoopi, it wasn't a 'rape-rape'...however according to court documents, it was a qualude/champagne induced assault on a minor......I'm going with the court records....

Posted by: BeantownGreg1 | October 2, 2009 11:45 AM | Report abuse


Derrick Ward expected to miss Redskins game
Posted by Gregg Rosenthal on October 2, 2009 11:22 AM ET
Tampa's offense has its work cut out for it against an angry Redskins team with first-time starting quarterback Josh Johnson at the helm.

On Friday, the team learned its job would be even tougher with running back Derrick Ward expected to miss the game after sitting out his third straight practice. Ward started at running back over Cadillac Williams last week, but Williams should get the nod Sunday.

Earnest Graham, battling a hamstring injury of his own, will back Williams up.

And even though losing to the Lions was embarrassing from a public relations standpoint, we'd argue that a home loss to Tampa would be a bigger crime. Detroit looks like a more competitive team than Tampa this year, that game was on the road, and Johnson doesn't have the same talent as Lions quarterback Matthew Stafford.

(Plus Florio's Super Bowl pick doesn't need to look any worse than it already does.)

Posted by: TWISI | October 2, 2009 11:47 AM | Report abuse

I don't really see how you put Letterman on any list involving Polanski.

Posted by: PortisPocketsStr8 | October 2, 2009 11:47 AM | Report abuse

good to hear about Ward missing the game.....good for us that is...

Posted by: BeantownGreg1 | October 2, 2009 11:51 AM | Report abuse

Hope we get to see Alridge have a chance to make some plays this weekend.

Any word on the Bucs new QB? Only saw one highlight of him rushing.

Posted by: PortisPocketsStr8 | October 2, 2009 11:51 AM | Report abuse

Moe, I'll be furious if the Skins give up 21 points to the Bucs, even if we win. Giving up that many points to this woe-begotten team would be yet another embarrassment...

Good grief, my disappointment-mitigating self-defense mechanism has already been triggered for this game, and it's only Friday.

Posted by: NateinthePDX | October 2, 2009 11:53 AM | Report abuse

The Smoking Gun has the court statement from the girl. It's awful. He's not a good person. You see HOllywood line up behind him... and the French... it's pretty horrible all the way around.

It wasn't statutory, imo, it was outright rape. And to top it all off, he ran from sentencing - you could lock him away for that too...

So who did Letterman stupp?

Posted by: DikShuttle | October 2, 2009 11:54 AM | Report abuse

Im hoping Aldridge gets some reps too.

Heard he may have an issue with holding onto the ball. Should not take long to figure out.

Posted by: CheyenneWY | October 2, 2009 11:55 AM | Report abuse

Ryp --

I suspect that's the trouble with most blogs... typically, there's lots of material on all sorts of topics and even an occasional nugget of worthwhile information.

If you're looking for a more focused or coherent discussion, suggest you find a moderated site with a defined point of view like http://blog.redskins.com/

Granted, anything posted there is pretty much in lockstep with the company line... sort of like only reading the team press office releases... but then again, you won't need to bother with scrolling through dissenting opinions... or any other content you might dislike.

Posted by: Vic1 | October 2, 2009 11:55 AM | Report abuse

Win or Lose I just want a clean game with no mistakes. If that happens, we beat the hel out of the Bucs. Anything less its a coin flip at best.

Dont know much about the Bucs QB though

Posted by: CheyenneWY | October 2, 2009 11:57 AM | Report abuse

Question: is anyone else in team colors today?

Posted by: DikShuttle | October 2, 2009 11:58 AM | Report abuse

for those just joining us, check out the photo's on this link:

http://www.extremeskins.com/showthread.php?t=301745

jc, needs to learn to look elsewhere.....like the open guy for example, that'd be a start....

Posted by: BeantownGreg1 | October 1, 2009 10:03 AM |

LOL. Mebbe JC can get some help from Mr. Magoo.

Posted by: DukeNewkem | October 2, 2009 11:59 AM | Report abuse

Bad thing about JC17 is the line is just good enough to give him one look. He is not able to go around and check his routes.

If the primary (Moss) is not open, which he usually isnt because of double teams, he doesnt have time to go through his progressions. Thats why its usually the check down receiver getting the balls.

We need the line to maintain some blocks and give JC17 a better opportunity.

Posted by: CheyenneWY | October 2, 2009 12:02 PM | Report abuse

I made bacon and eggs for the family this morning, but no pancakes and no maple syrup... I generally make pancakes on the weekend since it's a little more time-consuming.

My point is, doggone it, now I want some friggin' pancakes...

Posted by: NateinthePDX | October 2, 2009 12:03 PM | Report abuse

One - wearing my Cooley jersey today
Two - Polanski - actually, the girl's mom was involved in setting up the meeting. A bit of local trivia for some old timers - the girl's mom was the blonde that used to do the Ourisman Chevrolet ads in D.C. during the 1970's and 1980's

Posted by: JohnDinHouston | October 2, 2009 12:04 PM | Report abuse

the girl's mom was the blonde that used to do the Ourisman Chevrolet ads in D.C. during the 1970's and 1980's

Posted by: JohnDinHouston

I LOVED HER...at least I thought I did, I was only six or something.

Posted by: CheyenneWY | October 2, 2009 12:06 PM | Report abuse

dcsween

"Yet Clemson v. Maryland (ESPNU), featuring the much ballyhooed C.J. Spiller, evades mention."


Dear Mr. Sween,

We fail to mention the Clemson v. Maryland as, well, those teams suck.

Case closed.

But Spiller is high on my pre-, pre-, pre-, pre-draft board.

Dude's got track speed.

He can catch out of the backfield and return kicks.

Look at a short list of the top backs right now:

Cedric Benson
Chris Johnson
Maurice Jones Drew
Frank Gore
Adrian Petersen
Fred Jackson
Stephen Jackson

All these dudes 'take it to the house' when they get into the open field.

Right now, the skins don't have a starting running back who can do that.

Yes I said that.

Posted by: MistaMoe | October 2, 2009 12:10 PM | Report abuse

My point is, doggone it, now I want some friggin' pancakes...

Posted by: NateinthePDX | October 2, 2009 12:03 PM |

Hop on over to IHOP.

Posted by: DukeNewkem | October 2, 2009 12:15 PM | Report abuse

Waffles

Posted by: JohnDinHouston | October 2, 2009 12:18 PM | Report abuse

whhaaaaat?! I'll need some reference on our Ourisman girl being involved. Links please.

And yeah, if the mother was involved, she needs to go to jail too. Something tells me they would have gone after her, even in that day & age.

Posted by: DikShuttle | October 2, 2009 12:23 PM | Report abuse

Oh, sure, Duke, as if it were that simple.

Hmm... but soft! There IS a dynamite little cafe a few blocks away from my office... breakfast-all-day sort of place... I have a big chunk of available time around noon when I could get away... this is just crazy enough to work...

Note the "Buttermilk or Whole Wheat Man-Cakes" on this menu. These are plate-sized cakes, and I've never finished two in one sitting, but amazingly they don't sacrifice quality even with that absurd quantity. And they'll give you real maple syrup for a little extra.
http://www.steppingstonecafe.com/menu.html

Posted by: NateinthePDX | October 2, 2009 12:23 PM | Report abuse

Anyone recall Matt Stafford's scramble on 3rd and long?

This Josh Johnson kid is big and FAST.

Down-and-out-defense.

Young athletic QB who likes to scramble.

No tape on the guy.

Pressure on the Skins to beat a bad team that's not supposed to be good.


Why do I feel set up to be embarassed this weekend?

Posted by: p1funk | October 2, 2009 12:28 PM | Report abuse

"I'll be furious if the Skins give up 21 points to the Bucs, even if we win. Giving up that many points to this woe-begotten team would be yet another embarrassment..."


If you outscore a team by 1 or 40, you still win.

The skins need to bag up some victories.

Losing is a cancer.

It infects everything a guy tries to do.

It's like being so lonely that the ugly girl at the end of the bar looks good, and you're sober when you realize it.

After losing to the lions and going 0-4 in the preseason, and just beating the rams, this team needs to take any wins it can get.

Even if it means giving up 21 points to a team we might be drafting right after next spring.

'Cuz we, like the bucs, are a bad team.

And it's time to both understand and deal with it.

Posted by: MistaMoe | October 2, 2009 12:35 PM | Report abuse

Hey Barno1 - Tony Dungy is even saying the Redskins have an organizational problem. But there is no way Tony Dungy knows more about football than you; right Barno1?

BTW - Organizational means the entire organization, which starts at the very tippy top, as in the owner, Daniel Dysfunctional Synder.

Posted by: SkinsKen | October 1, 2009 2:43 PM


hahahahhahahahahahahahaha. post of the year.

take that barno.

Hey SkinsKen, ask barno about Terps football or basketball. He'll tell you everything is PERFECT in Fridge's and Gary's world, and that both coaches are Gods among men.

Posted by: Poopy_McPoop | October 1, 2009 5:54 PM | Report abuse

Anything BUT the post of the year. Pointing to others who agree with you as proof that the other side is wrong is the oldest and lamest form of trying to prove a point. Intelligent people can disagree, that's a fact.

I could point to Troy Aikman who believes just as I do that Jason Campbell is on the verge of becoming a star QB. Does that mean I am right about Campbell and all those who think he will never be a star are wrong? Of course not.

Yahoo! Sports lists Dan Snyder as one of the top 10 owners in the NFL, as do I, does that make me right and all those that think he's not a top 10 owner wrong? Of course not.

Bottom line is Poop is an infant who doesn't know any better, so I tend to give him a pass. But SkinsKen, you've got to come up with something more than the lame "Tony Dungy agrees with me, therefore you are wrong" defense of your argument. That's just intellectually lazy.

Posted by: Barno1 | October 2, 2009 12:37 PM | Report abuse

Dik - don't know exactly how strongly the Oursiman Chevy lady was involved at the exact moment of the crime, but she was trying to get her daughter into show business, and thus had a role in her being at Polanksi's house.

Here's a link:

http://voices.washingtonpost.com/reliable-source/2009/09/flashback_polanski_and_the_our.html

Posted by: JohnDinHouston | October 2, 2009 12:37 PM | Report abuse

I understand we're a bad team, Moe, and I understand a win is an unequivocally good and necessary thing, but I don't have to be rational in how I deal with it... it's my choice to be irrational, even fanatical, in my reactions to what this team does.

So winning and giving up a bunch of points to the terrible, terrible Bucs would be disappointing, just as winning and looking awful against the terrible, terrible Rams was disappointing.

Posted by: NateinthePDX | October 2, 2009 12:39 PM | Report abuse

Well, I guess it was Jack Nicholsan's house, actually -

Posted by: JohnDinHouston | October 2, 2009 12:39 PM | Report abuse

Wow - right here in our own fishwrapper:

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/06/17/AR2008061703227.html

And she didn't 'pimp her out' as many are suggesting... it was supposed to be for a photo shoot (I know, I know...) Still... REALLY bad decision on her part -

"Oh, the guy who's wife was murdered by the Manson cult? Yeah, go do a private shoot with him, sure!"

...ok, mebbe pimpin a little. gross.

Posted by: DikShuttle | October 2, 2009 12:39 PM | Report abuse

1. Letterman. Sarah Palin's daughter and stupping his staff? The dude's in his sixties. This is something you would expect from a randy twenty-something.

Posted by: DukeNewkem
_________________________

Obviously, you must be a twenty-something, otherwise you would know the randyness thing never ends for guys.

Posted by: chasgiffen | October 2, 2009 12:43 PM | Report abuse

you're right Dik - what stuns me, and I'm a pretty accepting guy, seeing things from both sides, is how anyone can see Polanski as being harrassed here. Dude did the crime and fled justice when he didn't like what the sentence was going to be.

Posted by: JohnDinHouston | October 2, 2009 12:45 PM | Report abuse

Anything BUT the post of the year. Pointing to others who agree with you as proof that the other side is wrong is the oldest and lamest form of trying to prove a point. Intelligent people can disagree, that's a fact.

I could point to Troy Aikman who believes just as I do that Jason Campbell is on the verge of becoming a star QB. Does that mean I am right about Campbell and all those who think he will never be a star are wrong? Of course not.

Yahoo! Sports lists Dan Snyder as one of the top 10 owners in the NFL, as do I, does that make me right and all those that think he's not a top 10 owner wrong? Of course not.

Bottom line is Poop is an infant who doesn't know any better, so I tend to give him a pass. But SkinsKen, you've got to come up with something more than the lame "Tony Dungy agrees with me, therefore you are wrong" defense of your argument. That's just intellectually lazy.

Posted by: Barno1 | October 2, 2009 12:37 PM |

Wow, I'd love to see your list of "top-10" sports owners if Snyder is in it. I'm guessing the Peter Angelos (O's), Robert Nutting (Pirates), and Donald Sterling (Clippers) are also on that list.

Of course your Troy Aikman strawman holds no water since he hasn't commented on how dysfunctional the Redskins management is.

But to Barno, Dan Synder is owner-of-the-year, Vinny-the-Bozo is GM-of-the-year, and Zorn is coach-of-the-century.

Gonna use more obscene language too Barno-the-dope? Like you did over on the Terps Insider.

Posted by: Poopy_McPoop | October 2, 2009 12:48 PM | Report abuse

Obviously, you must be a twenty-something, otherwise you would know the randyness thing never ends for guys.

Posted by: chasgiffen | October 2, 2009 12:43 PM | Report abuse

I thought the whole point of having your own tv show was so you could boink hot 20 year olds well into your 60s.

Posted by: PAskinsfan17 | October 2, 2009 12:49 PM | Report abuse

Thanks JohnD!

so sad. But I guess they're doing better now. I hope they put him away quickly and it's done with...

Posted by: DikShuttle | October 2, 2009 12:49 PM | Report abuse

F Polansk! He gave drugs and rape a 13 year old girl. Anyone that defends him is just as sick as he is.

Posted by: jm220 | October 2, 2009 12:50 PM | Report abuse

FIRST to say the solution is simple: play Orakpo at DE!

Posted by: brownwood26

Which DE? Replacing stud run-stuffer Phillips or overpaid pass rusher Coleman?

Look Blache admits he needs to get more aggressive. The answer isn't to put Orakpo's hand in the dirt but to send him more from his linebacker slot on first or second down.

Make a tackle choose between blocking him or Coleman, or loop him inside to take a double team off Haynesworth.

At times they could employ a 3-4, line Orakpo up at the weakest offensive point.

You don't improve pass pressure by taking one of your better pass rushers off the field. You don't improve run defense by taking one of your best run stuffers off the field.

All that's needed is a little more aggression and imagination.

Posted by: TheCork | October 2, 2009 12:50 PM | Report abuse

"I have to be more of a maverick, not necessarily a McCain-Palin maverick but a Bart and Bret Maverick and be more of a riverboat gambler," Blache said. "I can't worry about giving up a play; I have to worry about making a play. That's where I can help my guys a little bit more."

I hope he puts his money where his mouth is, I get tired of watching the defense being dictated to as opposed to doing the dictating.

Posted by: gatorskinz2000 | October 2, 2009 12:50 PM | Report abuse

Olympics will be in Rio!

Posted by: talent_evaluator | October 2, 2009 12:51 PM | Report abuse

All we would want to do is try to disguise who is rushing the passer. The Steelers do this and so do the Jets and Ravens. We show 3-4 and 4-3 on the same play by having guys walk up to the line and then drop back. We aren't necassarily switching schemes as much as hiding pass rushers. They will know we are rushing 3 but they don't know who the other rusher(s) are.

Posted by: PAskinsfan17 | October 2, 2009 9:33 AM | Report abuse


lol.did anyone else notice what's wrong with this theory?

Here's a hint,you can't show 3-4 and 4-3 on the same play.do you know the difference?

And not pickng on you,but these are the type of takes that emboldens the likes of jlc and czaban and others to say that the fans know what's going on and they're mad as heck when some of us don't know the difference between the 3-4 and 4-3.

The Steelers,Raven and Jets don't change shti.they play a 3-4 and they are gonna blitz you to death and smack you in the mouth period.should we do that?i sure as hell wish we would,but it's kinda like Fletchers take.you have to execute.

Posted by: jumbo5383 | October 2, 2009 12:52 PM | Report abuse

Today's Required Listening:

Bob Marley, Legend.

Analysis:

Sounds good no matter what you're smoking while listening to it.

"Redemption" is the best song with "Satisfy My Soul" coming in a close second.

Then, there's "Three Little Birds" and "Exodus".

And speaking of an exodus, let me make mine.

Posted by: MistaMoe | October 2, 2009 12:53 PM | Report abuse

TheCork,
I think you mean Carter and nto Coleman, but I get your drift.

Posted by: RedSkinHead | October 2, 2009 12:55 PM | Report abuse

Is Vinny Cerrato's problem really public relations?
Posted by Gregg Rosenthal on October 2, 2009 12:17 PM ET
In a wide-ranging interview transcribed by Dan Steinberg for D.C. Sports Bog of the Washington Post, D.C. media veteran George Michael gave his opinion on a number of Redskins-related topics on the Mike Wise radio show.

The entire transcript is fascinating and Michael has a unique viewpoint from his time around the team and his admittedly close relationship with owner Dan Snyder. But if Michael is a friend of Snyder's, he certainly said a few things that would make his friend/boss feel uncomfortable.

Asked if Vinny Cerrato was a capable talent evaluator, Michael said the following.

"Oh, there's no ifs buts or ands," Michael said. "I mean, I know that for a fact, I know that from other people around the league. Here's the problem Mike -- and God, I can't believe I'm telling all this truth -- Vinny Cerrato is a zero when it comes to public relations and building relationships with people in the world."

Wow.

"I'm sorry. My Good God," Michael continued. "[Cerrato] doesn't ask why don't people like me, but you've got to go out and you've got to do things . . . I feel bad that Cerrato has not gone out and tried to build these relationships."

The Redskins have a complicated relationship with the local media that others could speak more intelligently about, and it's hard to argue that their public relations is poor. The team's fanbase is predictably unhappy with the team's recent run of so-so play.

But it's also hard to argue that whoever is making personnel decisions for Washington is a great talent evaluator. Michael admits that Cerrato isn't always calling the shots.

"Let me tell you the truth: Dan [Snyder] does make I think most of those big-type decisions," Michael said. "He says 'Let's get this guy, let's get that guy.' And the guy that takes the heat for it -- and it's why I think he's never gotten fired -- is Vinny Cerrato."

Yikes. No matter how much Snyder wants to win, it seems pretty obvious that this is not a successful way to run a football operation in 2009. It rarely works for Mike Brown of the Bengals and his father was Paul freaking Brown, perhaps the greatest innovator in football history.

There seems to be a theory that the Washington roster is one of the league's most talented, but few outside of Redskins headquarters would agree with that sentiment. Most would say it's a mediocre roster with a quickly aging offensive line and very little depth.

And while it isn't fair to coach Jim Zorn, he'll ultimately be the one who takes the blame.

Posted by: zjfr2 | October 2, 2009 12:55 PM | Report abuse

1. Letterman. Sarah Palin's daughter and stupping his staff? The dude's in his sixties. This is something you would expect from a randy twenty-something.

Posted by: DukeNewkem
_________________________

Obviously, you must be a twenty-something, otherwise you would know the randyness thing never ends for guys.

Posted by: chasgiffen


Amen, Bro. Just less frequently.

Posted by: TheCork | October 2, 2009 12:59 PM | Report abuse

Poop, I never said Snyder was one of the 10 best owners in sports (just the NFL). And no, Peter Angelos would not be on any of my "top 10" lists, he's dead last. And why can't you ever make a point without resorting to extreme exaggeration? Snyder as owner of the year? Vinny as GM of the year? Puhlease. Never said anything like that.

Poop, just stick to Simpsons quotes. That's where you're a Viking.

Posted by: Barno1 | October 2, 2009 12:59 PM | Report abuse

If the other team has your lack of creative calls on offense and defense figured out in advance you limit your chances for success !!!!!

THE GOAL IS TO CALL A PLAY THAT THE OTHER TEAM IS NOT PREPARED FOR!!!

Posted by: LETJASONPASS

You confuse tackle football with flag football. The idea of tackle football is to bend the other team to your will. Coaches like Lombardi ran a half dozen or so plays again and again perfectly, and their guys knocked your guys out of the way.

Of course the skins guys aren't good at that these days, so I see your point in their instance.

But if you've never seen Riggo drill in it full fledged glory, you don't know what true enjoyment of football is.

Posted by: TheCork | October 2, 2009 1:04 PM | Report abuse

TheCork,
I think you mean Carter and nto Coleman, but I get your drift.

Posted by: RedSkinHead

Of course. I plead brainfart. Actually i was thinking randy thoughts and got distracted.

Posted by: TheCork | October 2, 2009 1:05 PM | Report abuse

Actually i was thinking randy thoughts and got distracted.

Posted by: TheCork | October 2, 2009 1:05 PM

Dude, stop thinking about Randy. He's done.

Posted by: talent_evaluator | October 2, 2009 1:08 PM | Report abuse

Who hasn't listened to Legend?!

completely tru, tho.

Friend of mine's wife is Jamaican - she insists: NO dancing to Bob Marley! Just listen.

Posted by: DikShuttle | October 2, 2009 1:09 PM | Report abuse

Randy Quaid
Randy Rhoads
Randy Newman
Randy "The Macho Man" Savage
The Amazing Randi

Posted by: NateinthePDX | October 2, 2009 1:12 PM | Report abuse

lol.did anyone else notice what's wrong with this theory?

Here's a hint,you can't show 3-4 and 4-3 on the same play.do you know the difference?

And not pickng on you,but these are the type of takes that emboldens the likes of jlc and czaban and others to say that the fans know what's going on and they're mad as heck when some of us don't know the difference between the 3-4 and 4-3.

The Steelers,Raven and Jets don't change shti.they play a 3-4 and they are gonna blitz you to death and smack you in the mouth period.should we do that?i sure as hell wish we would,but it's kinda like Fletchers take.you have to execute.

Posted by: jumbo5383 | October 2, 2009 12:52 PM | Report abuse

I'm not saying they are completely switching to a 4-3 defensive scheme on the play. They are just showing 4 down linemen and 3 linebackers. The Steelers and Ravens send a guy down to the line of scrimmage and then bring him back. They may send any of the linebackers down to the line before the snap. Sometimes they send multiple linebackers down to the line then bring them back. Sometimes they don't come back. You don't know who is going to rush.

Posted by: PAskinsfan17 | October 2, 2009 1:14 PM | Report abuse

"Really don't get all the hate for the Baltimore Ravens.

I guess it's jealousy and envy, them just moving to Baltimore in '96, a SB win, their contenders on the regular, their front office, their draft, their defense...

I get it.

But that doesn't make me hate them. Hell, I'm not going to lie, when they aren't playing the Redskins, I root for the Ravens to win.

The Steelers too.

I can appreciate and respect good football. Those mf'n teams knock the piss out of people all the time. They play hard all the time. How can you not appreciate that?

Posted by: RedDMV"


LMFAO

Another day, another chach fairy! You stinkin' traitor punk! I'm tired of your crap RedDepartmentofMotorVehicles! You flip flop like John Kerry in beach sandals! Not to mention you look like a goat with no testes!

I oughta punch your lights out. Where do you live?

Posted by: TheTruth11 | October 2, 2009 1:15 PM | Report abuse

Put Kareem Moore at FS and LL in the box. I know the con is that LL can cover more ground but you dont need a FS that can cover as much ground as LL if LL is hurrying or hitting the QB.

Posted by: GreatOne1 | October 2, 2009 1:16 PM | Report abuse

Ahhhhh this is the blog I remeber

Truth vs. RedDMV

Posted by: GreatOne1 | October 2, 2009 1:19 PM | Report abuse

Put Kareem Moore at FS and LL in the box. I know the con is that LL can cover more ground but you dont need a FS that can cover as much ground as LL if LL is hurrying or hitting the QB.

Posted by: GreatOne1 | October 2, 2009 1:16 PM | Report abuse

Agreed. And then sign a vet FS in the off season if Kareem sucks. Do not draft one. All draft picks are to be spend on O-linemen.

Posted by: mhaslup1 | October 2, 2009 1:20 PM | Report abuse

Is it me or has Dirty 30 been somewhat of a disappointment?

Posted by: joeboggs | October 2, 2009 1:22 PM | Report abuse

I'm not saying they are completely switching to a 4-3 defensive scheme on the play. They are just showing 4 down linemen and 3 linebackers. The Steelers and Ravens send a guy down to the line of scrimmage and then bring him back. They may send any of the linebackers down to the line before the snap. Sometimes they send multiple linebackers down to the line then bring them back. Sometimes they don't come back. You don't know who is going to rush.

Posted by: PAskinsfan17 | October 2, 2009 1:14 PM | Report abuse

OK if you say so,but i'm gonna have to tell you the steelers,raven and jets never use 4 down linemen..the 3-4 means 3 linemen and 4 linebackers,but i think i get where you're going

Posted by: jumbo5383 | October 2, 2009 1:24 PM | Report abuse

Is it me or has Dirty 30 been somewhat of a disappointment?

Posted by: joeboggs | October 2, 2009 1:22 PM | Report


yes he has,and so has Horton

Posted by: jumbo5383 | October 2, 2009 1:27 PM | Report abuse

RE: No Dancing to Bob Marley

I guess they should have let the people at the concert that I went to know about that...the audience was moving from note 1 and no one sat when I saw him.

Posted by: JohnDinHouston | October 2, 2009 1:29 PM | Report abuse

PAskinsfan

"Here's a hint,you can't show 3-4 and 4-3 on the same play. Do you know the difference?"

Well, yes you can.

Imagine the skins coming out of a defensive huddle with four linemen: Daniels, Golston, Haynesworth, and Carter.

The quarterback starts his cadence.

At the second command in the cadence, Haynesworth shifts to the nose, Carter stands upright, Golston moves to left end.

Your linebackers are Carter, Fletcher, McIntosh, Orakpo.

And you've shifted form the 4-3 to the 3-4.

So now, the offense doesn't know if Carter or Orakpo is blitzing or if they'll both drop back.

Maybe you blitz a safety and drop Golston back to cover in the way the team used D Evans last year.

The point is, you can make defensive alignment shifts during the cadence or even after the quarterback'center makes their pre-snap calls: that is what causes the confusion for the offense.

Those of us who know football know that.

Posted by: MistaMoe | October 2, 2009 1:32 PM | Report abuse

1. Letterman. Sarah Palin's daughter and stupping his staff? The dude's in his sixties. This is something you would expect from a randy twenty-something.

Posted by: DukeNewkem
_________________________

Obviously, you must be a twenty-something, otherwise you would know the randyness thing never ends for guys.

Posted by: chasgiffen | October 2, 2009 12:43 PM |

Is this the V1agra talkin?

Posted by: DukeNewkem | October 2, 2009 1:33 PM | Report abuse

Copy & paste a comment from RI from a few minutes ago = legit & understandable

Copy & Paste a comment from RI from a few hours ago = kinda pressed

Copy & Paste a comment from over 24 hours ago = lame, pathetic, loser type behavior

Hey Truth, you scrotum sack face, a few months ago you were relevant, but every since I took your lunch and milk money, and sent you packing, you've flamed out.

With ya suck-ass. You look like a damn goat... with testes... in your mouth.

Posted by: RedDMV | October 2, 2009 1:35 PM | Report abuse

Fletcher solution -- execute the play called -- makes excellent sense to me. I don't have TiVo, but I wonder whether Horton (and/or other guys in the secondary) executed something other than the play called.

Posted by: dcsween | October 2, 2009 1:37 PM | Report abuse

Couple things from the chat:

They are carrying five running backs on the 53-man roster, which is simply unheard of and downright ridiculous.

New England Patriots. - 5 RB, Faulk, Maroney, Morris, Taylor, Green-Ellis, the last 4 of which are pretty much tackle to tackle guys.

Reid also stated that Portis isn't in good shape, and that Rhino played ok, but had one big mistake....anyone know what the mistake was.??

Posted by: BeantownGreg1 | October 2, 2009 1:37 PM | Report abuse

Bob Marley v Jimmy Cliff

We like "They Harder They Come" as Cliff has a sweeter, pop-inflected style.

"Don't Worry, Be Happy" is nice as is the title track "The Harder They Come".

"By the Rivers of Babylon" is a nice Cliff track as well.

But Bob Marley sounds he's standing next to you posted up in some tropical 'hood with ideas, anger, and philosophy flying through his brain.

And that's why even it still resonates when hip hop anger/poetry does not.

Posted by: MistaMoe | October 2, 2009 1:39 PM | Report abuse

From the Times:
All of yesterday's walking wounded are on the field for today's light practice.

That includes running back Clinton Portis (calf), fullback Mike Sellers (quadricep), defensive tackles Albert Haynesworth (hip), Cornelius Griffin (thigh) and Anthony Montgomery (knee) and cornerback DeAngelo Hall (ankle).

Posted by: BeantownGreg1 | October 2, 2009 1:41 PM | Report abuse

well said, moe, well said

Posted by: JohnDinHouston | October 2, 2009 1:43 PM | Report abuse

Seems like everyone is just whistling past the graveyard when it comes to Portis.

He needs some time off...get one of the young guys going

Posted by: CheyenneWY | October 2, 2009 1:44 PM | Report abuse

"...but i'm gonna have to tell you the steelers,raven and jets never use 4 down linemen..the 3-4 means 3 linemen and 4 linebackers..."


These teams are 3-4 teams that attack with very athletic 'tweener types ends/linebackers and excellent safety play.

They are using what they have to get what they want.

No one is saying the skins should abandon ship with its defensive personnel.

But using some of the players--Wilson, Orakpo, Landry, Carter, Blades--in more creative ways would give an opposing offense something to think about.

And right now, when they see our defensive they must think, "Endzone, here we come!"

Posted by: MistaMoe | October 2, 2009 1:46 PM | Report abuse

At the second command in the cadence, Haynesworth shifts to the nose, Carter stands upright, Golston moves to left end.

Your linebackers are Carter, Fletcher, McIntosh, Orakpo.

And you've shifted form the 4-3 to the 3-4.

So now, the offense doesn't know if Carter or Orakpo is blitzing or if they'll both drop back.

Maybe you blitz a safety and drop Golston back to cover in the way the team used D Evans last year.

The point is, you can make defensive alignment shifts during the cadence or even after the quarterback'center makes their pre-snap calls: that is what causes the confusion for the offense.

Those of us who know football know that.

Posted by: MistaMoe | October 2, 2009 1:32 PM | Report abuse

and those of us who knows football knows that anyone of those LINEMEN that you just mentioned are LINEMEN and can't stay with a te or rb in coverage..

Is that disguising your coverage?yes is that switching from 4 linemen to 3?umm no...just because d-evans dropped back into coverage doesnt mean he's a linebacker.there's a reason we couldn't get off the field late last year

Posted by: jumbo5383 | October 2, 2009 1:49 PM | Report abuse

cheyenne

"Seems like everyone is just whistling past the graveyard when it comes to Portis."

Well, I'm not.

The redskin offense lacks speed at the running back sopt like it lacks size and athleticism on the offensive line.

If Campbell is signed to a low round incentive-laden deal (which might happen), the hope is the team takes the long view and snaps up a fast back with the first round pick.

There's this Clemson Tiger kid that I like named.....

Posted by: MistaMoe | October 2, 2009 1:51 PM | Report abuse

We fail to mention the Clemson v. Maryland as, well, those teams suck.

Posted by: MistaMoe | October 2, 2009 12:10 PM

Ralph Friedgen has eaten men for lesser insults.

Posted by: dcsween | October 2, 2009 1:51 PM | Report abuse

"...but i'm gonna have to tell you the steelers,raven and jets never use 4 down linemen..the 3-4 means 3 linemen and 4 linebackers..."


These teams are 3-4 teams that attack with very athletic 'tweener types ends/linebackers and excellent safety play.

They are using what they have to get what they want.

No one is saying the skins should abandon ship with its defensive personnel.

But using some of the players--Wilson, Orakpo, Landry, Carter, Blades--in more creative ways would give an opposing offense something to think about.

And right now, when they see our defensive they must think, "Endzone, here we come!"


Posted by: MistaMoe | October 2, 2009 1:46 PM | Report abuse

now that i can agree with

Posted by: jumbo5383 | October 2, 2009 1:52 PM | Report abuse

We fail to mention the Clemson v. Maryland as, well, those teams suck.

Posted by: MistaMoe | October 2, 2009 12:10 PM

And he'd be licking his chops knowing he'd get a mouthful of first person plural.

Posted by: dcsween | October 2, 2009 1:52 PM | Report abuse

portis is starting to piss me off...I have a feeling that his exit from the team is gonna go down the same way Lavar's did...that being everyone's fault but his....thats just crap on his part being out of shape.....

Posted by: BeantownGreg1 | October 2, 2009 1:53 PM | Report abuse

beeps

Posted by: BeantownGreg1 | October 2, 2009 1:54 PM | Report abuse

jumbo

"...just because d-evans dropped back into coverage doesnt mean he's a linebacker. There's a reason we couldn't get off the field late last year.."

I understand your confusion.

If you can find it, watch the game tape of the skins v. iggles late in the season last year.

What I've posted is what the skins did to shut the iggles done on the eve of their playoff run.

Thing is, the team alternated between blitzing Jason Taylor and Evans.

The skins beat a good offense that day.

So why, here with the issues we have this year, can't the team go back to that kind of creativity when it has Haynesworth to lock down the middle of the line and Orakpo/Wilson-- two young fast tweener backers--to blitz?

We well ardently await your response.

Posted by: MistaMoe | October 2, 2009 1:59 PM | Report abuse

It's cuz everyone's been playing up Portis' ego for so long now he doesn't know how to be humble. That's really what this entire team needs, a big ole bath of humility to unite the players as a team. Kinda hard to get everyone on that train, though, when the high priced players need the biggest slice of humble pie and their paychecks tell them otherwise.

Posted by: pgugino | October 2, 2009 1:59 PM | Report abuse

... and that Rhino played ok, but had one big mistake ... anyone know what the mistake was??

Posted by: BeantownGreg1 | October 2, 2009 1:37 PM

This sounds like the makings of an RI contest!

dcsween's first entry: Thinking he was only going to play special teams.

How many entries to I get?

Posted by: dcsween | October 2, 2009 2:00 PM | Report abuse

LaRon Landry is one safety asked to do the job of two safeties.

Maybe he should leave the monkey at home, and focus on tackling properly. Take out the wheels by wrapping up superman.
Something is def wrong with LL. Suppose to be his breakout year? thought he was hot stuff in the off season by being MIA and piercing his lip, and buying a pet monkey. Real tough stuff superman!

Posted by: bhoang888 | October 2, 2009 3:14 PM | Report abuse

Jason Campbell

Posted by: MrRedskin21 | October 4, 2009 2:16 PM | Report abuse

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