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Four quarters, two guys, two predictions

By Cindy Boren  |  December 5, 2009; 2:29 PM ET
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I'd rather have a poll than these videos. When I'm looking for video, RI does not come to mind.

Posted by: League-Source | December 5, 2009 2:41 PM | Report abuse

Wise -- Saints 35 Redskins 24
Reid -- Saints 42 Redskins 7
Brownwood -- Saints 55 Redskins 0
League-Source -- Saints 27 Redskins 13

They can't all be right, can they? In fact, I'm saying none of them will be right. That's not only why they play the games, it's also why people bet money on them!!


Posted by: League-Source | December 5, 2009 2:55 PM | Report abuse

Looks like Grilliams has been enjoying that New Orleans cuisine.

Posted by: Diesel44 | December 5, 2009 2:55 PM | Report abuse

Redskins 38 Saints 35
ARE takes a PR to the house
22 has 2 picks and 1 TD
Marko has 2 TD's
Suisham makes a 53yd FG for the win.

Posted by: Diesel44 | December 5, 2009 3:04 PM | Report abuse

My prediction is that, while WAS may exceed expectations, a stupid play like a fumble or interception costs the team the game. They'll find a way to keep it somewhat close, but will give it away in the end.

Posted by: jiacinto | December 5, 2009 3:23 PM | Report abuse

Deisel44, I want a little of what your taking.

Posted by: edvar | December 5, 2009 3:25 PM | Report abuse

When will JReid learn....

He is horrendous at picking Skins game....He may hae just jinxed the Saints.....

Posted by: 4thFloor | December 5, 2009 3:52 PM | Report abuse

If you're bored Charles Brown #71 from USC is one of the top left tackle prospects.

Posted by: PAskinsfan17 | December 5, 2009 4:00 PM | Report abuse

Deisel44, I want a little of what your taking.

Posted by: edvar | December 5, 2009 3:25 PM

A heavy dose of sarcasm. I thought maybe the score or one of the four player predictions would have given that away.

Posted by: Diesel44 | December 5, 2009 4:01 PM | Report abuse

So here's an interesting way to think about AH and his contract.
From Football Outsiders, here is Matt Stafford's contract:

Year-by-year totals (accrued totals year-by-year):
Year 1: $41.7 million
Year 2: $41.7 million
Year 3: $41.7 million
Year 4: $49.5 million
Year 5: $61 million
Year 6: $72 million
So in short, Stafford is guaranteed to make at least $41.7 million over the first 3 years of his contract. If he were to be cut after Year 4 he would have made at least $49.5 million.

So, do you pay AH that kind of money, or pay what the market bears for your guess at what a good pro QB is worth?
Because if we use our top-ten pick on a QB, that's the kind of money you'll need to pay. In fact, that's probably the kind of moeny you'll pay to any top-ten pick at any position. It's little wonder that so many OL/DL get picked so high, you can start them almost immediately and you can often hide them if they aren't as dominant as you hoped.

Posted by: daggar | December 5, 2009 4:07 PM | Report abuse

Edvar,
I don't dispute that Haynesworth is a great defensive tackle, but I think what they paid too much. Players in the NFL usually peak around 26-27 years of age. They gave Haynesworth a seven year contract when he was 28. There's no way he will be able to fulfill the length of the contract. With the money they signed him for they could have upgraded a few key positions instead of just the one. It's just silly.

Earlier this week they were talking about the restructured contract Portis got. For a running back with over 2000 carries - the drop off point for many running backs - that was just an insane amount of guaranteed money.

For the amount of money paid, I think Dan Snyder should expect these guys to be out there earning it. The problem is, at least in Portis' case, they aren't. Then you also have to deal with the reality that you have these multi-millionaire players who coaches have to treat with kid gloves for fear of them developing mysterious injuries that keep them out of practice, or who can disrupt the team by dressing down the coach in the media with no fear of repercussion.

I am for team unity and everyone doing their part. I don't believe that any one player should place themselves higher than anyone else. I think these humongous salaries have to lead to special accomodations that break down team unity. A rational team would set limits on spending so that no one player could break the bank, and no one player's salary could influence who is playing. There are teams who really do practice this methodology and I think it serves them well.

Posted by: RedSkinHead | December 5, 2009 4:33 PM | Report abuse

Saints 41, Skins 13

Posted by: coparker5 | December 5, 2009 4:47 PM | Report abuse

Edvar,
I don't dispute that Haynesworth is a great defensive tackle, but I think what they paid too much. Players in the NFL usually peak around 26-27 years of age. They gave Haynesworth a seven year contract when he was 28. There's no way he will be able to fulfill the length of the contract. With the money they signed him for they could have upgraded a few key positions instead of just the one. It's just silly.

Earlier this week they were talking about the restructured contract Portis got. For a running back with over 2000 carries - the drop off point for many running backs - that was just an insane amount of guaranteed money.

For the amount of money paid, I think Dan Snyder should expect these guys to be out there earning it. The problem is, at least in Portis' case, they aren't. Then you also have to deal with the reality that you have these multi-millionaire players who coaches have to treat with kid gloves for fear of them developing mysterious injuries that keep them out of practice, or who can disrupt the team by dressing down the coach in the media with no fear of repercussion.

I am for team unity and everyone doing their part. I don't believe that any one player should place themselves higher than anyone else. I think these humongous salaries have to lead to special accomodations that break down team unity. A rational team would set limits on spending so that no one player could break the bank, and no one player's salary could influence who is playing. There are teams who really do practice this methodology and I think it serves them well.

Posted by: RedSkinHead | December 5, 2009 4:33 PM

Actually, you did dispute it, RSH. You called him a bum.

Posted by: League-Source | December 5, 2009 4:49 PM | Report abuse

diesel 44...marko scoring a touchdown or 2 is possible if he gets to play but the other predictions will not happen. I would be shocked just to see rogers get an interception and suisham to kick a 33yd field goal. (rogers does have a interception vs. the saints and he almost dropped it.)

Posted by: wathu19 | December 5, 2009 5:29 PM | Report abuse

Lets see how the Aints play us in nasty conditions. Good possibility of a let-down game for NO.
This will be the Skin's Superbowl. No predictions on score, will be close with Skins maybe pulling it off.


Go get IT Skins!!!

Posted by: bhoang888 | December 5, 2009 5:32 PM | Report abuse

diesel 44...marko scoring a touchdown or 2 is possible if he gets to play but the other predictions will not happen. I would be shocked just to see rogers get an interception and suisham to kick a 33yd field goal. (rogers does have a interception vs. the saints and he almost dropped it.)

Posted by: wathu19 | December 5, 2009 5:29 PM

Sarcasm my redskin junkies, sarcasm.

The only MOCK prediction that would ever be possible would be Marko. Having said that (Larry David) he will never get the snaps to have a chance.

We all know that starters are set in stone and aren't based off of performance.

Thank god for injuries because the O hasn't looked this good all year and it's long overdue to see if the kids can play.

Posted by: Diesel44 | December 5, 2009 5:45 PM | Report abuse

Hopefully the Skins left the tarp off of the field and let the snow pile up!!!!! Boy I miss Va when it snows..... although in Texas we are colder than Va.

CLEGG

Posted by: michael_b_clegg | December 5, 2009 5:51 PM | Report abuse

Anyone watching Ingram? He is changing my mind. I say draft him first round and then all other picks OL. He is to special to pass up

Posted by: rupertpupkin | December 5, 2009 6:54 PM | Report abuse

Yes. Ingram looks good, but it still depends on which LT is available when the Skins draft.

Best case is for them to trade back and get one or two extra picks.

Posted by: Curzon417 | December 5, 2009 7:02 PM | Report abuse

What does it matter?

The Redskins and the Raiders have the same predicament.

But Dan Snyder is much younger than Al Davis.

So there we go, or more precisely, don't go.
~

Posted by: ifthethunderdontgetya | December 5, 2009 7:08 PM | Report abuse

HEY JREID, WHAT WAS YOUR PREDICTION FOR THE USC GAME???

Posted by: AdamCr | December 5, 2009 7:11 PM | Report abuse

It matters because as a fan I usually root w/my heart regardless of what my head tells me.

Gotta have hope, even when it seems pointless.

Posted by: Curzon417 | December 5, 2009 7:13 PM | Report abuse

Posted by: Curzon417 | December 5, 2009 7:02 PM

Only problem...Okung is the only guy worth a top 10 and we are gonna be sitting in the 5-10 range. No way Okung gets past Detriot.

Skins need to trade back and collect picks. No way do I want Bradford, McCoy, or reach for another LT.

Posted by: Diesel44 | December 5, 2009 7:15 PM | Report abuse

Agreed Diesel. But if no trade partners, and Okung is gone, who do you pick?

The smart money may be DT.

Posted by: Curzon417 | December 5, 2009 7:19 PM | Report abuse

DT is the deepest position in the draft but I'd say we are set @ DT.

Since Okung will be gone and if there are no trade partners with let's say the 7th pick.

Go best player
Eric Berry S
Joe Haden CB
CJ Spiller RB
Buluga LT
Taylor Mays S
Rolando McClain MLB
T. Williams LT

I hope no problem going for an impact player on D instead of reaching for an offensive player that early in the 1st.

If you're gonna be a bear on D then you might as well be a grizzly....

Posted by: Diesel44 | December 5, 2009 7:35 PM | Report abuse

Yeah, I'd be happy with the skins spending another top 10 first round pick on a safety.

Posted by: coparker5 | December 5, 2009 7:51 PM | Report abuse

Posted by: coparker5 | December 5, 2009 7:51 PM

What's your pick with the 7th pick in the draft?

Posted by: Diesel44 | December 5, 2009 7:56 PM | Report abuse

Eric Berry is on the board at 7, most likely will be gone, and there isn't a LT worth a top 10 pick....you wouldn't take the next Ed Reed and move LL to ss?

Posted by: Diesel44 | December 5, 2009 7:59 PM | Report abuse

depends on who is available - hard to say 5 months before the draft. I'd probably trade down before I take a safety though

Posted by: coparker5 | December 5, 2009 8:10 PM | Report abuse

Posted by: coparker5 | December 5, 2009 8:10 PM

I prefaced this by saying there wasn't anyone willing to trade up and it's never too early to discuss the draft.

Now you're on the clock and Okung is off the board...

Posted by: Diesel44 | December 5, 2009 8:17 PM | Report abuse

fwiw, RedSkinHead, you make some very good and very sound points. When we first signed AH, I said it was too many eggs in too few baskets.

As for unity being hurt when the pay structure and accomodations get out of whack, it happens in organizations all the time, but it wouldn't surprise me if its more problematic with this team. Hall and Portis, in particular, stand out as two guys with huge paychecks that really have underachieved.

Posted by: zcezcest1 | December 5, 2009 8:26 PM | Report abuse

Not sure we are set at DT. Griffin is on his last leg and the two young DT have not shown that they can get the job done, but are great for depth.

Again, hard to say who will be there, but if no trade partner and instead of reaching, DT may be the money pick at 5-7.

Posted by: Curzon417 | December 5, 2009 8:26 PM | Report abuse

Now if Nebraska can take care of Texas, TCU will show what a non BCS school can do in the Championship game.

Urban Meyer would have shown it first when he coached Utah to an undefeated season, but never got the chance.

Go Cornhuskers!

Posted by: Curzon417 | December 5, 2009 8:32 PM | Report abuse

I do know this - tomorrow's game won't be close. There won't be any let down by the Saints. Vikings are right on their heels.
Gregg Williams has plenty motivation to embarass Snyder. Brees gets to have his way against our secondary.

Posted by: coparker5 | December 5, 2009 8:43 PM | Report abuse

Posted by: Curzon417 | December 5, 2009 8:26 PM

This should be griff's last year and Monty and Golston are servicable but with AH's contract I can't justify it unless the impossible happens and Suh slips to us.

Posted by: Diesel44 | December 5, 2009 8:46 PM | Report abuse

Now ESPN has two of the premier RB in college football tonight. Johnathon Dwyer and CJ Spiller.

I would prefer Dwyer* myself but CJ may be the one that Dan wants.

If he comes out. And w/the rumor out there that there might be a rookie salary cap in 2011, then he may.

Posted by: Curzon417 | December 5, 2009 8:50 PM | Report abuse

Suh will be 1st or 2nd player taken. W/the DTs availavle (and safest picks IMO) Okung may fall to the Skins. It happened w/Orakpo but won't be holding my breath.

Still hoping that there is a trade partner for more picks.

Posted by: Curzon417 | December 5, 2009 8:59 PM | Report abuse

is the suspended wr out of Oklahoma State worth a 7th round pick? I'd take him.

Posted by: coparker5 | December 5, 2009 9:04 PM | Report abuse

Suh definitely goes 1 or 2 and Okung goes to the lions.

Best case scenario is to trade back and collect picks and then make a run on OL.

Given the choice I would take Spiller over Dwyer. Speed kills and we have no speed.

Posted by: Diesel44 | December 5, 2009 9:09 PM | Report abuse

is the suspended wr out of Oklahoma State worth a 7th round pick? I'd take him.

Posted by: coparker5 | December 5, 2009 9:04 PM

Dez Bryant will be gone in the 1st.

Posted by: Diesel44 | December 5, 2009 9:19 PM | Report abuse

is the suspended wr out of Oklahoma State worth a 7th round pick? I'd take him.

Posted by: coparker5 | December 5, 2009 9:04 PM | Report abuse

Dez Bryant? You mean 7th overall? He's special, a la Crabtree. But the only guy we need from okst is Okung.

Posted by: AdamCr | December 5, 2009 9:23 PM | Report abuse

Diesel44 another OT that's has top 10 potential if he come out is Anthony Davis. The good thing about Davis is that he's played 3 positions on the line B4 (both tackles spots, and LG).

Posted by: TWISI | December 5, 2009 9:35 PM | Report abuse

Posted by: TWISI | December 5, 2009 9:35 PM

He's a stud but only a junior @ Rutgers. I hope he comes out because that will give us more options.

We need to come away from this draft with a starter at OT or it's a failure.

Posted by: Diesel44 | December 5, 2009 9:55 PM | Report abuse

We need to come away from this draft with a starter at OT or it's a failure.

Posted by: Diesel44 | December 5, 2009 9:55 PM

We may have some disagreement on AH, but not with this statement. Absolutely need a starter at OT and would be nice to come away with two OL starters from this draft.

Posted by: Curzon417 | December 5, 2009 10:01 PM | Report abuse

Crap, I've been offline all day... did the snowcam make an appearance?

Posted by: NateinthePDX | December 5, 2009 11:06 PM | Report abuse

"...is the suspended wr out of Oklahoma State worth a 7th round pick? I'd take him."

Dez Bryant is a baller.

And you could justify drafting him by saying S Moss will eventually have to be replaced.

But a dynamic back who changes what a defense does is also needed.

Spiller fits the bill in the 1st round.

Dwyer in the second.

Posted by: MistaMoe | December 5, 2009 11:08 PM | Report abuse

diesel44

"We need to come away from this draft with a starter at OT or it's a failure."


Actually, the failure will be not realizing that top linemen must be drafted every year, not just in one draft.

It's going to take two or three drafts to fix the o-line.

The skins need to give up the philosophy that offensive linemen can be groomed up out of undrafted guys and 6th and 7th round picks.

Posted by: MistaMoe | December 5, 2009 11:11 PM | Report abuse

As I said earlier and as Spiller runs for 230 and 4 TDs. Spiller over Dwyer.

Posted by: Diesel44 | December 5, 2009 11:20 PM | Report abuse

Today's Best Headline:

"Man arrested for leaving 8-month-old baby in vehicle while drinking in suburban West Palm Beach strip club"

Analysis: Obviously, this is a man with his priorities in order.

As for me, I don't really see nuthin' wrong with a little bump and grind.

If he had told the police it was Take Your Daughter to Work Day, he'd have a reason to have the child at the strip club in the first place.

His job?: He's a moron.

Isn't it obvious?

Posted by: MistaMoe | December 5, 2009 11:22 PM | Report abuse

Moe-

Agreed. However, we have a lot of catching up do w/ the OL. So OL early and often, unless we can trade back and grab spiller in the mid 1st and and still grab a starting OL in the 2nd.

Posted by: Diesel44 | December 5, 2009 11:23 PM | Report abuse

"As I said earlier and as Spiller runs for 230 and 4 TDs. Spiller over Dwyer."

Agreed.

Moe has been on the Spiller Bandwagon and since the 1st GaTech v. Tigers game this year.

But you can't have Spiller and Okung.

Pick one.

I take Spiller in round one, and Ciron Black in 2.

I make Black my starting right tackle.

You either make your bed with L Jones or find a free agent.

Heyer is not the answer at LT.

But he probably will be.

Posted by: MistaMoe | December 5, 2009 11:26 PM | Report abuse

Okung will be gone. I want to trade back and collect picks.

If both are on the board then Okung.

I think Spiller is the next Chris Johnson with return skills Johnson only dreamed of.

Black will be gone by the time we draft in the 2nd. Maybe Bruce Campbell from MD.

If I was guaranteed a starting caliber OT in the 2nd I would definitely grab Spiller.

Posted by: Diesel44 | December 5, 2009 11:39 PM | Report abuse

Everyone is talking about trading back, what about trading up to get Suh,Okung, or McCoy? What would it take to move from #5 to say #2 or #3?

Posted by: TWISI | December 5, 2009 11:41 PM | Report abuse

"Everyone is talking about trading back, what about trading up to get Suh,Okung, or McCoy? What would it take to move from #5 to say #2 or #3?"


I'd rather trade away the '11 number one pick to acquire another 2nd and 3rd in '10.

That would give the team 4 picks in the top 3 rounds.

4 players from rounds 1 thru 3 is what you need when you're 3-13 and old and slow and lack linemen.

Posted by: MistaMoe | December 5, 2009 11:50 PM | Report abuse

Has Tebow stopped crying yet?

I wonder how he'll cry when he's on the outside looking in on draft day.

'Bama came at him NFL-style with press coverage on his receivers and a big 250 pound spying linebacker to shut down the scramble.

I can't see Tebow getting drafted.

But the 'Bama middle linebacker McClain is a playa.

Posted by: MistaMoe | December 5, 2009 11:57 PM | Report abuse

I'd rather trade away the '11 number one pick to acquire another 2nd and 3rd in '10.

Posted by: MistaMoe | December 5, 2009 11:50 PM

That would be the best way to go. 4 of the top 100 picks in this draft would be an incredible haul for this team.

Posted by: TWISI | December 5, 2009 11:58 PM | Report abuse

Next year's 1st is usually only worth this year's 2nd. That's how we got Rocky.

Rebuilding takes patience and this team isn't a early 2nd rd pick from being a contender.

No team is gonna give you a 2 & 3 for an '11 1st.

BTW..there is no one on our team worthy of a 2nd rd'er either if that's your plan as well. Not Cooley, Davis, JC, Portis, Moss, nobody...

Posted by: Diesel44 | December 6, 2009 12:11 AM | Report abuse

Twisi

"That would be the best way to go. 4 of the top 100 picks in this draft would be an incredible haul for this team."

If it happens, yeah, it would be.

And if it does, those players need time on the field from day one.

If you notice, teams like the iggles and pats load up on 2nd and 3rd rounders.

That keeps them from the money issue that comes from drafting a top 15 kid who gets a boatload of money and bombs.

Posted by: MistaMoe | December 6, 2009 12:12 AM | Report abuse

diesel44

"No team is gonna give you a 2 & 3 for an '11 1st."

I'd toss up a pick and a player to get additional picks in the top 3 rounds.

I'm trying to rebuild by drafting a core now that matures in 2-3 years.

We already see that the '08 receivers are starting to make something happen.

The FO should work to continue loading up on young, fast, athletic offensive players.

Posted by: MistaMoe | December 6, 2009 12:22 AM | Report abuse

Moe-

We agree on a lot. I'd take 2 early 2nd's over the 7th pick in the draft.

Just go back and look at the draft history from the last ten years, it's scary. If you miss on a top 10 guy, you're screwed.

Good teams can get starters between the 2nd and 3rd rounds and if you don't redshirt them they usually contribute.

Notice I said good teams...

Posted by: Diesel44 | December 6, 2009 12:22 AM | Report abuse

1. Need a GM.
2. GM hires a coach.
3. GM has no loyalties and blows this team up to eliminate bad contracts, non-performers, etc.
4. GM accumulates as many draft picks as possible.
5. GM drafts a team that fits the coaches system and gets younger, much faster, and hungrier.

Pretty simple actually...

Posted by: Diesel44 | December 6, 2009 12:29 AM | Report abuse

diesel44

"We agree on a lot. I'd take 2 early 2nd's over the 7th pick in the draft."

No question here.

Sounds like a plan.

Let's go fire Vinny and put it in place.

Posted by: MistaMoe | December 6, 2009 12:33 AM | Report abuse

Diesel, the first move needs to be a President of Football operations to take all football related activities out of Dan's hands. The PFO hires the GM.

With you from there.

Posted by: Curzon417 | December 6, 2009 12:33 AM | Report abuse

Nice performance by Spiller. Going to be hard not to select him if Okung is already taken.

If no changes are made to the FO, look for a Safety in the top ten.

Posted by: Curzon417 | December 6, 2009 12:35 AM | Report abuse

Curz-

I guess allowing Dan to hire the GM would be counterproductive as well.

We all know Dan is the problem...can we get a RI poll to determine the next President of Football Operations so Dan doesn’t screw that up?

Get on that Cindy or JR.

Posted by: Diesel44 | December 6, 2009 12:39 AM | Report abuse

That's the problem,it all starts at the top. I would rather see him hire an PFO and step back rather that him hiring a GM and still be involved.

Yes, I'm a dreamer.

Posted by: Curzon417 | December 6, 2009 12:46 AM | Report abuse

"3. GM has no loyalties and blows this team up to eliminate bad contracts, non-performers, etc."

Does this team really need to be 'blown up'?

Or does it need the o-line rebuilt on the fly, some speed out of the backfield,the '08 receivers to continue to gain confidence, and Jason Campbell to have a Vince Young moment where he 'gets it'?

Posted by: MistaMoe | December 6, 2009 12:47 AM | Report abuse

Again, The problem is that Dan is going to have to be a part of either the PFO of the GM hiring process.

Even after ten plus years of failure, I'm not convinced that he has come to the conclusion that he is the only person to blame. After all the changes he is the only person that remains and needs to step aside if he wants to win.

Posted by: Diesel44 | December 6, 2009 12:57 AM | Report abuse

1. OL rebuilt...no chance w/o this.
2. JC...not sure if he will ever "get it". An OL would help though
3. definitely need some speed ala Spiller or Jevan Best
4. '08 guys can play, too bad we redshirted them last year.

Posted by: Diesel44 | December 6, 2009 1:08 AM | Report abuse

Posted by: MistaMoe | December 6, 2009 12:47 AM

This team is on pace for it's worst finish in our lifetime and you don't want is blown up?

Posted by: Diesel44 | December 6, 2009 1:14 AM | Report abuse

AH was (too) expensive, but you can't argue he's at worst in the top 3 for most effective at his postion. I'll even give you Fletch as our MVP, but #92 has the highest impact on how others around him elevate their game. Hard to argue highest impact player vs. heart and soul of the defensive unit for MVP, though. Regardless, AH is not a bum.

Posted by: RomoShortball

He is what we thought he was. He even missed a few games, as predicted. As he gets older, and more poorly conditioned, expect those numbers to go up.

Nebraska's Suh looked oretty good today. Top 3, mebbe #1 overall.

Posted by: TheCork | December 6, 2009 2:17 AM | Report abuse

This team is on pace for it's worst finish in our lifetime and you don't want is blown up?

Posted by: Diesel44

This team is also on pace for the most players on IR that we've seen in our lifetime. While a few changes need to be made, I don't need any knee jerk reactions.

Posted by: dcwun | December 6, 2009 2:24 AM | Report abuse

He is what we thought he was. He even missed a few games, as predicted. As he gets older, and more poorly conditioned, expect those numbers to go up.

Nebraska's Suh looked oretty good today. Top 3, mebbe #1 overall.

Posted by: TheCork

Yeah, we knew he would miss a few. I will say that AH is THE most dominant DDT in the game. Suh is good, but AH is THE guy at the position.

Posted by: dcwun | December 6, 2009 2:28 AM | Report abuse

Well....that video was very uplifting....thanks for posting....

Posted by: leevi98 | December 6, 2009 2:39 AM | Report abuse

This team is also on pace for the most players on IR that we've seen in our lifetime. While a few changes need to be made, I don't need any knee jerk reactions.

Posted by: dcwun | December 6, 2009 2:24 AM

Even if this team was injury free and no team is...So instead of 3-8 maybe 4-7.

Is that what you wanted.

Posted by: Diesel44 | December 6, 2009 3:10 AM | Report abuse

League Source,
You are right, I did call Haynesworth a bum and then I did turn around and call him a great defensive tackle. So, he's an enigma to me, okay? On one hand, he's this great play maker. On the other hand he's this guy who is taking up enormous salary cap space. On one hand, he's made Carter look like a pro bowl caliber defense end. On the other hand, he's undisciplined at times having been out of position with a running back burning through the gap he was supposed to fill. So, yes, he's a great defensive tackle who is a bum.

Posted by: RedSkinHead | December 6, 2009 7:54 AM | Report abuse

The Deadskins are a joke, like Danny boy and his high price stadium. Throw the bums out, Danny boy first

Posted by: Ohreally2 | December 6, 2009 8:06 AM | Report abuse

Dexter McCluster over Spiller and Dwyer, He's going to be a stud maybe the next LT can catch a caryy the ball with equal dexterity..

nobody can Say the Skins aren't playing hard I say Skins 30 Saints 24.......

Posted by: skinztattoo89 | December 6, 2009 9:18 AM | Report abuse

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