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Jarmon out for the season (updated)

Rookie defensive lineman Jeremy Jarmon will miss the last five games after tearing a knee ligament in Sunday's loss to the Philadelphia Eagles, and it appears that tight end Chris Cooley will be placed on the season-ending injured-reserve list because of a leg injury he suffered more than a month ago, Coach Jim Zorn said today during his news conference at Redskins Park.

Jarmon tore his left anterior cruciate ligament in the 27-24 loss and will undergo surgery, sidelining him for the remainder of the season. To take Jarmon's spot on the 53-man roster, the Redskins plan to sign linebacker Alvin Bowen from their practice squad.
In the supplemental draft, the Redskins used their 2010 third-round draft pick to select Jarmon from Kentucky. He impressed in training camp and the preseason and contributed from the outset this season while playing in every game.

Left tackle Chris Samuels, right guard Randy Thomas, running back Ladell Betts and strong safety Chris Horton are other key players on the injured-reserved list, and Cooley's name probably will be added this week. "I'm going to talk to Chris Cooley about his situation," Zorn said. "I want to work out, in my mind, the right way to do it [put Cooley on the list].

"I haven't talked to him today. He hasn't come in yet today. When I meet with him, we're going to have a conversation, and just kind of have a plan for what's to come. It's hard to write that when I'm not sure myself."

Barnes, Williams speak of Friedgen

Redskins rookies Kevin Barnes and Edwin Williams gave their former coach, Maryland's embattled Ralph Friedgen, a vote of confidence in the locker room at Redskins Park today. Rick Maese has the details at Terrapins Insider.

By Jason Reid  |  November 30, 2009; 12:41 PM ET
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Comments

1st say, say it ain't so Joe

Posted by: ThrowItToMyTeam | November 30, 2009 12:46 PM | Report abuse

if it weren't for bad news, there wouldn't be any....

Posted by: BeantownGreg1 | November 30, 2009 12:46 PM | Report abuse

Ugh. Hope hes ready for the start of next season. The kid was playing well.

Any chance well have NO injuries next year to balance out?

Posted by: Rypien11 | November 30, 2009 12:47 PM | Report abuse

WOW

Posted by: WRBD | November 30, 2009 12:47 PM | Report abuse

2nd to say , Sign an OL

Posted by: ThrowItToMyTeam | November 30, 2009 12:47 PM | Report abuse

Whats the recovery time for this?

Posted by: Rypien11 | November 30, 2009 12:48 PM | Report abuse

This just gets worse and worse.

The kid just started his career, not good. :(

- Ray

Posted by: rmcazz | November 30, 2009 12:49 PM | Report abuse

Anyone got Alex Boone email add?

Posted by: PAskinsfan17 | November 30, 2009 12:49 PM | Report abuse

That sucks...

Posted by: chrislarry | November 30, 2009 12:53 PM | Report abuse

Jarmons a young guy. He'll bounce back next season and hopefully be a starter.

Posted by: VaBeachBlitz | November 30, 2009 12:55 PM | Report abuse

They should try to audition as many young free agents as they can. Meanwhile, the young guys on the roster should start getting more playing time to gain experience. Here are a few other moves I think they should make:

-Let Wynn and Daniels go and elevate Jackson and Skolnitsky to the active roster. Neither one will be back next year and this gives the team to figure out if they have players or not.

Let Mike Williams go and elevate Oldenburg to the active roster. Mike Man-who-waves-in-defenders Williams should be called a failed project and allowed to move on. He has been injury prone and aside from one game at guard, has really not been too effective. Meanwhile, there are guys on the developmental roster that should be given a test drive. I am particularly intrigued by Oldenburg who seems to be a very athletic big man who might blossom with some playing time and coaching.

Cut Collins, sign another QB and give that guy, and Bartel, some reps in games. Look, Campbell may not be coming back and they need to start kicking the tires. Collins is not going to be back next year because he is just too old.

There are some other guys that could be cut, but the team is probably thinking of holding on to those players to put tags on them. With some holes on the developmental roster, I could see them grabbing offensive linemen and running backs for extended looks.

Posted by: RedSkinHead | November 30, 2009 12:39 PM | Report abuse

RedSkinHead--

In principle, you're right with your musical chairs. But most of it won't work because you have to pay any guys who were here on opening day if you cut them (Wynn, Daniels) plus their replacements. This team never has enough cap room for something like that. IR is already eating up much of the cap cushion.

Bringing in RBs? Well, we've already done that. Bringing in QBs? We've done that, plus how are they going to learn the offense well enough in a week so that you can tell what you've got?

Besides, at this point in the season there's not a lot of talent sitting around out there to add to the developmental squad or the roster.

Posted by: League-Source | November 30, 2009 12:55 PM | Report abuse

he's got youth on his side which will help with the rehab from this....ugh, its like bad news after bad news....depressing...

Posted by: BeantownGreg1 | November 30, 2009 12:55 PM | Report abuse

Greg,

Things are great I picked up some games for Christmas, I will have to go back and get that one.

He tore the ACL.

Posted by: Flounder21 | November 30, 2009 12:57 PM | Report abuse

Recovery for a standard ACL repair is 6 months.
What to watch out for is that the rehab process means you don't get the rest and recovery time most other players do in Mar-Apr-May-June, so you tend to wear out in December during the season.
That -- IMHO -- is why Rogers and RockyMac both had decreased minutes and decreased productivity last December.

Posted by: daggar | November 30, 2009 12:59 PM | Report abuse

floud, good to hear, don't be such a stranger around these parts....

From the Times:

The team has placed him on the injured reserve, and they have called up linebacker Alvin Bowen from the practice squad. Bowen, who signed with the Redskins in September, was drafted in the fourth round in 2008 by the Buffalo Bills.

Posted by: BeantownGreg1 | November 30, 2009 1:00 PM | Report abuse

The team has placed him on the injured reserve, and they have called up linebacker Alvin Bowen from the practice squad.

Posted by: BeantownGreg1 | November 30, 2009 1:00 PM

Who are they going to get for the practice squad? Who's left? Pete Kendall?

Posted by: League-Source | November 30, 2009 1:04 PM | Report abuse

Good news for Jarmon is that he should be back by June if all goes well in rehab and full strength for training camp. Unlike a CB or even a LB who are involved in coverage, any lost lateral ability in the first season post-surgery probably won't affect him as much. Let's hope he returns healthy as we already used a No. 3 for him in next year's draft!

Posted by: wizfan89 | November 30, 2009 1:04 PM | Report abuse

That -- IMHO -- is why Rogers and RockyMac both had decreased minutes and decreased productivity last December.

Posted by: daggar | November 30, 2009 12:59 PM

"IMHO"? Which of those four letters does not belong in reference to daggar? Of course, daggar has more right to the H than Periculump, CL, zfjr2, or beantowngreg, but still....

Posted by: League-Source | November 30, 2009 1:07 PM | Report abuse

theCork

statement:

"Let's get something straight: the defensive players in the NFL are the better athletes in the league."

"Let's get something else straight, that's a load of hooey. If a guy rushes the passer, say 35 times a game, and has one sack, does that make him a superior athlete to the Olineman blocking him?"


What would modern football look like if today's defensive player was allowed to maul receivers as they ran downfield like what used to happen in the 1970s?

Passing wouldn't be as important as it is now that the rules take away from defenders.

What you may not be aware of is the fact that most kids are recruited out of high school by top football programs as 'athletes'.

The better 'athletes' become linebackers, defensive ends, cornerbacks, safeties, and defensive tackle.

Speed and athleticism on defense counts more than size now that passing rules the day.

The idea is that you take a stud with undefined talent, train him up, get him in a weight room and boom: you've got a 'tweener 'backer or 220 pound strong safety.

The guys recruited to play on offense tend to be those kids who excelled at a particular position in high school.

On offense, quarterbacks who are athletic become wide receivers or cornerback/safeties.

Running backs become linebackers, tight ends defensive ends or moved inside to tackle.

In any event, today's football is so controlled by the outstanding athletes on the defensive side of the ball, that most rule changes attempt to negate the defense to help the offense.

And that's not a lot of hooooey.

Posted by: MistaMoe | November 30, 2009 1:07 PM | Report abuse

good to see Barnes get some pt finally....and it turns out he actually looks like he knows what he's doing....sigh....

Posted by: BeantownGreg1 | November 30, 2009 1:09 PM | Report abuse

I would not be so quick to write off Phil Daniels. That guy is a physical stud, and a complete professional. Wynn, definitely say Thanks and Well Done.

Posted by: SkinsfaninKaneohe | November 30, 2009 1:09 PM | Report abuse

Let's hope he returns healthy as we already used a No. 3 for him in next year's draft!

Posted by: wizfan89 | November 30, 2009 1:04 PM

And not just any #3. That number 3 will be so high in the order that people could mistake it for a slow #2. I remember thinking at the time that the #3 was going to be so low in the order that people would think it was a pre-mature #4. "Honey, my water broke already! We have to get to the hospital!"

Posted by: League-Source | November 30, 2009 1:11 PM | Report abuse

If I ever get the 'humble' tag removed, I want it to be for "hip hip whatever".

Posted by: daggar | November 30, 2009 1:13 PM | Report abuse

If I ever get the 'humble' tag removed, I want it to be for "hip hip whatever".

Posted by: daggar | November 30, 2009 1:13 PM

By the time that happens it will probably be "hip hip replacement." ;)

Posted by: League-Source | November 30, 2009 1:24 PM | Report abuse

That's bad news about Jarmon. The playing time was doing him good.

Let's get Marko Mitchel and Barnes on the field, get 'em some combat time.

Posted by: edvar | November 30, 2009 1:27 PM | Report abuse

punt the season. i am buying stock in ace bandages, surgical equipment, and body bags.

Posted by: goose33 | November 30, 2009 1:27 PM | Report abuse

By the time that happens it will probably be "hip hip replacement." ;)

Posted by: League-Source | November 30, 2009 1:24 PM | Report abuse
---------------------------------

Post of the Day. Unanimous Decision. Just take the trophy and enjoy an early Happy Hour.

Posted by: mattsoundworld | November 30, 2009 1:38 PM | Report abuse

We are sitting at #5 in next year's draft.

We can wrap that pick up with a loss to Oakland in a couple of weeks.

Plus, if Detroit can pull it's head out of it arse one more time this year, we'll move up to #4.

Posted by: Original_etrod | November 30, 2009 1:44 PM | Report abuse

whats the point of not putting Cooley on IR again?? I mean, I don't get it....jz once again showing why he's a failure....

Posted by: BeantownGreg1 | November 30, 2009 1:44 PM | Report abuse

We can wrap that pick up with a loss to Oakland in a couple of weeks.

Plus, if Detroit can pull it's head out of it arse one more time this year, we'll move up to #4.

Posted by: Original_etrod
Why the fascination with a high draft pick? This FO will only screw it up!

Posted by: 1965skinsfan | November 30, 2009 1:52 PM | Report abuse

"I'm going to talk to Chris Cooley about his situation," Zorn said. "I want to work out, in my mind, the right way to do it [put Cooley on the list].

= FAIL....

Posted by: BeantownGreg1 | November 30, 2009 1:56 PM | Report abuse

Here's my Jason Campbell analysis:

1) For those that think he'll go somewhere else and light it up....I doubt it. He reads defenses too slow, he's indecisive, and holds the ball too long.

2) Has he ever led us a game winning, last minute drive to win a game?

Posted by: rickyroge | November 30, 2009 1:58 PM | Report abuse

I just tore my acl reading about another injury to one more of the players on our team.

Posted by: kickass10101 | November 30, 2009 2:02 PM | Report abuse

some positive news

memphis hired someone else to be the Head Coach. gray isnt leaving

Posted by: follybeach | November 30, 2009 2:03 PM | Report abuse

"I'm going to talk to Chris Cooley about his situation," Zorn said. "I want to work out, in my mind, the right way to do it [put Cooley on the list]." - Zorn

See, this is what I'm talking about when it comes to this freakin' whack job.

Dammit Zorn, make a decision already. Either do it or don't. I mean f&*% man! What's the hold up? Bring Cooley back for what? What difference is he going to make at this point? I don't get it.

It's not like coaching an NFL team or something...

Posted by: RedDMV | November 30, 2009 2:03 PM | Report abuse

I just tore my acl reading about another injury to one more of the players on our team.

Posted by: kickass10101 | November 30, 2009 2:07 PM | Report abuse

What happened to Cody Glenn?Macho Harris from here in Richmond was still on the board and is playing cornerback on Sundays.

Posted by: mark65 | November 30, 2009 2:12 PM | Report abuse

When is Zorn going to go down with an injury? I'm tired of seeing this guy on the sidelines. "Promote" him to food and beverage manager and get him the hell out of here.

Posted by: ga8085 | November 30, 2009 2:14 PM | Report abuse

Bummer on Jarmon.

He should recover completely and not miss a beat.

But it's too bad b/c the last 5 games of the season are really shaping up to be throw-in-the-towel-and-let's-just-play-young-guys type of games.

Jarmon really could have gotten alot of valuable PT in meaningless games.

Posted by: p1funk | November 30, 2009 2:14 PM | Report abuse

What happened to Cody Glenn?Macho Harris from here in Richmond was still on the board and is playing cornerback on Sundays.

Posted by: mark65 | November 30, 2009 2:12 PM | Report abuse


Cody Glenn got cut.

Posted by: p1funk | November 30, 2009 2:15 PM | Report abuse

Shocker, another serious injury. It's a battle of attrition out there.

So much for the revelation Levi Jones was for his season-opening performance. Trent Cole owned him yesterday.

Marcus Mason needs more touches.

As does Marko Mitchell.

Haynesworth and Hall are clearly the two best defensive players on the team, and their presence was sorely missed (and yes, that includes Fletcher, Carter, and Orakpo).

Rocky Mac is the most underrated player on the team.

Who wants to bet Zorn called the plays late in the 4th quarter?

Posted by: psps23 | November 30, 2009 2:15 PM | Report abuse

psp, your thoughts on how Rogers played yesterday and what the team should do with him, going forward....

Posted by: BeantownGreg1 | November 30, 2009 2:19 PM | Report abuse

blip, blip

Posted by: BeantownGreg1 | November 30, 2009 2:20 PM | Report abuse

Rogers had a solid if unspectacular day yesterday. And his situation hasn't changed. Keep him until you can pick up someone better, or until you can offer him up in a trade.

Posted by: psps23 | November 30, 2009 2:23 PM | Report abuse

With Cooley and Jarmin out, maybe Skolnitsky will get his chance to play. I like that name Skol-nit-sky. Maybe he can get a patented move on the field that we can call the Skolnitsky. It'll have to be a nasty move - like ripping someone's jock off. I can hear the commentator now..."Oh my goodness, he just pulled a Skolnitsy on the quarterback. He ain't getting up from that."

Seriously though, is this injury thing just getting crazy or what? One wonders if it has anything to do with the losing season. Do guys try to do something beyond their abilities and get hurt? Well, when the end of the season house cleaning begins, I think the trainer should get the boot as well...

Posted by: RedSkinHead | November 30, 2009 2:35 PM | Report abuse

word

Posted by: gatorskinz2000 | November 30, 2009 2:38 PM | Report abuse

Eagles review: Studs and duds
By: John Keim
Examiner Staff Writer
11/30/09 1:24 PM EST

Studs

LB London Fletcher. Early in the game too many of his tackles came seven or eight yards downfield. But he finished with 12 tackles – 11 solo -- and several jarring hits. It’s fun to watch a guy play with the passion Fletcher exudes. It’s not fake. There’s a reason a guy with his size has lasted this long. He had one drive in which he made a couple explosive tackles, one that knocked DeSean Jackson from the game.

DE Phillip Daniels. He was active and did manage some pressure inside at times. Had a tipped pass; chased down some ballcarriers to prevent even longer gains.

WR Devin Thomas. He’s starting to get it, though it helped that his 35-yard catch came off a good play by Jason Campbell to get out of the pocket. But Thomas at least is contributing more. And he had a 35-yard kick return, showing some explosiveness. He’ll have a few more of those the rest of the season.

Posted by: TWISI | November 30, 2009 2:39 PM | Report abuse

studs cont.

RB Rock Cartwright (blitz protection). The running lanes weren’t there so he had rather poor numbers rushing the ball. But when the Eagles blitzed, Cartwright did a nice job picking it up. Philly did not blitz nearly as much as anticipated. They didn’t need to, not with a line that can’t protect on anything other than a three-step drop.

QB Jason Campbell. I know he threw two interceptions. He telegraphed one, hesitated and then Asante Samuel pounced for a good pick. And one series later he threw another interception. Samuel, like DeAngelo Hall, excels at reading the play and he broke off Santana Moss to cover the route. The receiver, Thomas, was not open on the play. And I know those plays led to points. But the main reason Washington was in the game was because of Campbell and his ability to make plays behind a line that features three guys who struggled to protect. The touchdown to Fred Davis came off a scramble; the 35-yard strike to Thomas resulted from the same and the scoring pass to Moss was a good read. Campbell was hit after most of his throws and many times had someone in his face.

LB/DE Chris Wilson. He is playing more and more and is doing a nice job. Wilson hit Donovan McNabb’s arm as he threw a pass that led to a flutter ball and easy Justin Tryon interception. What I liked on the play: as Wilson got around the edge, his arms immediately got into position to go at the ball. Had he waited another split second to get them in position, he would have hit McNabb, but would not have affected the pass. Wilson also did a nice job in coverage at the goal line on Brent Celek, forcing an incompletion. He even lined up as a DT on one snap, dropping into coverage.

Posted by: TWISI | November 30, 2009 2:41 PM | Report abuse

Duds

LT Levi Jones. Trent Cole owned him most of the day, on run downs and pass downs. Cole had a penchant for stepping inside, then moving back outside. Jones’ feet weren’t quick enough to handle such a move. Other times he lunged on a block or set up too wide. He also sets too high at times. Jones has yet to prove he’s anything other than a short-term fill-in.

RG Edwin Williams. The kid is trying and, in fairness to him, he’s out of position. Because of poor management with line depth and injuries, he’s forced to play. But Williams struggled, especially in the second half. On one series, he allowed his man to get free and prevent a cutback lane. Then, on three consecutive plays, he missed a block that led to a tackle; he allowed his man to break free for another tackle and he allowed pressure inside on the next play. Williams must work on staying lower; too often the defender was underneath his pads. Way too often.

RT Stephon Heyer. It’s not any one thing, but he allows too much pressure and just doesn’t move anyone in the run game. He had two costly penalties. And, once more, he gives away passes (or draws) based on his stance.

Posted by: TWISI | November 30, 2009 2:43 PM | Report abuse

duds cont.

FS LaRon Landry. He and Fred Smoot were badly beaten by Jeremy Maclin and were bailed out only by an underthrown pass. Landry also tried to shoulder tackle Jason Avant and failed to bring him down, leading to a 46-yard gain. He gained 22 extra yards after the missed attempt. He did have a nice tackle at the goal-line, when he got inside the center to team with Rocky McIntosh. But the missed tackle really hurt.

DT Cornelius Griffin. He was taking on double teams and was more effective in the second half at keeping both blockers occupied. But he was not as active in one-on-one situations as he normally is during games.

FB/TE Mike Sellers. Was OK, but the Redskins need him to be better than that. Lost his man a couple times at the line and did not drive his man as he has in the past. Did not get much push on one of his lead blocks out of I formation and was called for holding that wiped out a 15-yard run.


Posted by: TWISI | November 30, 2009 2:44 PM | Report abuse

I am concerned about the comments Zorn makes about injuries. Shouldn't someone give him a daily list of injuries and how the players are progressing ?? Shouldn't he say to Cooley ,hey player your season is done come back in the spring. No it is when he comes in were going to have a conversation and kind of have a plan set up. Sounds to me like these head coaches do not talk to the players whatsoever.

Posted by: jaylor50 | November 30, 2009 3:55 PM | Report abuse

The worse the season gets the more I'd hope to see Jarmon, Rinehart, etc. Too bad.

Posted by: chavez66 | November 30, 2009 4:40 PM | Report abuse

remember - it can always get worse.

Posted by: BrooklynSkins | November 30, 2009 6:15 PM | Report abuse

and it will

Posted by: BrooklynSkins | November 30, 2009 6:16 PM | Report abuse

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