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McCoy, Clausen draw Redskins' attention

Owner Daniel Snyder and Vinny Cerrato, Washington's executive vice president of football operations, recently attended a University of Texas game to scout quarterback Colt McCoy, according to sources within the organization. Cerrato also made a trip to conduct an in-person evaluation of Notre Dame junior quarterback Jimmy Clausen, who this week declared for the draft.

The belief among some at Redskins Park is that Snyder and Cerrato plan to use the team's first draft pick this year in their quest to find the Redskins' next franchise quarterback, which could signal the end of Jason Campbell's tenure with the team. He will be a restricted free agent at the end of the season, which means the Redskins could match any offers he received.

"Whatever's out there I don't even listen to it," Campbell said. "If people try to talk to me about that stuff, I just tell them I don't want to hear it. I don't want to take anything like that with me into a game. I just want to finish this season on a strong note and let the offseason take care of itself. I just feel they'll be plenty of time in the offseason for that stuff to be worked out."

The Redskins would have to tender Campbell a contract to receive draft compensation if he signed elsewhere. Washington also could place the franchise or transition tags on Campbell instead of tendering him, but they are not expected to make either of those moves.

Campbell's minimum tender amount would be $3.14 million, according to a league source familiar with his contract situation. If the Redskins increased the offer to $3.268 million, they would first- and third-round compensation. Campbell has a salary of a little more than $2.857 million this season.

The good news for Campbell is that he is having the best season of his career as Washington's starter despite playing behind one of the league's worst offensive lines. The five-year veteran ranks 14th in the league with a personal-best 87.7 passer rating. He has the league's seventh-highest completion at 65.9 percent, is 15th in yards at 2,724 and has a career-high 15 touchdown passes.

Campbell has a high interception total of 12, which is tied for fifth in the league. But given the pressure he has faced this season (only three quarterbacks have been sacked more than Campbell), that number isn't so surprising. And under the circumstances, Campbell, who was benched after halftime in the Week 6 loss to the Kansas City Chiefs, has been among the main reasons the Redskins (3-9) have had any success this season.

"Jason is a starter in this league," offensive coordinator Sherman Smith said. "He makes all the throws, he makes plays and he's a big reason for the success we've hard. We rely on Jason."

In the offseason, Snyder and Cerrato attempted to acquire quarterback Jay Cutler, who was traded from the Denver Broncos to the Chicago Bears. Cutler is tied for the league lead with 20 interceptions and has a 75.3 passer rating. Snyder and Cerrato also considered trading for Mark Sanchez, who was drafted by the New York Jets. Sanchez is fourth with 17 interceptions and has a 63.7 rating.

"I'm not about looking in the past," Campbell said. "I know what I can do, I think there are people in this league who see some of the things I've done, and I just want to try to win as many games as we can with what we have left. Then when the offseason comes, everything will take care of itself."

Campbell in the clutch

Over at the D.C. Sports Bog, Dan Steinberg finds Campbell to be a decidedly non-money player.

By Jason Reid  |  December 9, 2009; 2:00 PM ET
Categories:  Jason Reid  
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Comments

Please God, no.

QB is #10 on the list of positions we should take in the first round.

Posted by: Rypien11 | December 9, 2009 2:04 PM | Report abuse

First to say Campbell is not the problem ... draft a rookie QB, but keep JC 17 for at least another year!!!

Posted by: DenverdoesDalls | December 9, 2009 2:06 PM | Report abuse

Posted by: RedDMV | December 9, 2009 1:48 PM

Red is it fair to say that most of the guys playing in college won't be playing in the NFL. C'Mon with that agruement.

D Jack is also small of stature and it hasn't stopped him from being a game changer. Well- Until 59 caught him.

Spiller is bigger than Portis was coming out of the U and his resume is more impressive.

This should be our draft board if we don't trade back.

1. Okung
2. Suh
3. Berry
4. Spiller
5. Trent Williams

Posted by: Diesel44 | December 9, 2009 2:02 PM

Posted by: Diesel44 | December 9, 2009 2:07 PM | Report abuse

Colt Mccoy? He has a noodle arm.

Posted by: markjd1 | December 9, 2009 2:08 PM | Report abuse

The belief among some at Redskins Park is that Snyder and Cerrato plan to use the team's first draft pick this year in their quest to find the Redskins' next franchise quarterback
JReid

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Shankham told JReid this before he left.

Posted by: Curzon417 | December 9, 2009 2:11 PM | Report abuse

ANYBODY GOING TO THE GAME IN OAKLAND THIS WEEKEND? i live here, so im going and will be showing some Redskins love. Holler if you are too! Also, please god no on the 2 QBs above. As funny as it would be to watch them come into the league and get tossed around like rag dolls and never develop id prefer it happen on some other team. o gawd!

Posted by: SkinsInSichuan | December 9, 2009 2:12 PM | Report abuse

If we draft a QB we are done. This FO is absolutely the worst in the league. O line, O line, O line, is screaming at them in the face and they want a glamour QB. he stupidity amazes me.

Posted by: FedorEm | December 9, 2009 2:12 PM | Report abuse

Campbell has a high interception total of 12, which is tied for fifth in the league. But given the pressure he has faced this season (only three quarterbacks have been sacked more than Campbell), that number isn't so surprising.
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Isn't it?

Aaron Rodgers (sacked 45 times) has faced more pressure, and has 25 TDs to only 7 INTs.

Posted by: MrRedskin21 | December 9, 2009 2:15 PM | Report abuse

Got beeped:

“Is Haynesworth's contract a ripoff?”

I think the more important question here is to try and settle an argument from way back in early September:

Does Brownwood still “smell Stubblefield v2.0”?

IMO, Big Al is playing way better than Stubby did…..meeting all of the expectations of impact/performance/snap count. Living up to the actual contract? Possibly….just need to look past his soccer injuries (he usually goes back into the game) and look at all of the double/triple teams that he draws, and especially look at all of the 3rd/4th and 1’s that he has been a big part of shutting down this year. For me, that’s the biggest thing since he joined the team. I now 90% EXPECT them to stop teams every time there is a 3rd or 4th and 1. I don’t have the actual stats, but they are considerably better in this area, as well as sacks this year. I am happy that they have him, despite the inflated contract.


Posted by: dlhaze1 | December 9, 2009 2:10 PM

Posted by: dlhaze1 | December 9, 2009 2:15 PM | Report abuse

This shows you how Dan Snyder does not get it. How are the Redskins going to rebuild the offensive line if they draft a quarterback in the first round? Jason Campbell is a better qb than either. Having this offensive line would make any quarterback stink. Same stuff different day. It is going to have to get worse before it gets better. It will get a lot worse with this type of thinking.

Posted by: HelloNewman1 | December 9, 2009 2:15 PM | Report abuse

If I wanted Okung to fall to #5, then I would be telling the world that I'm going to draft McCoy or Clausen. Of course, Cnyder and Serrato are not the most subtle knives in the drawer.

Posted by: League-Source | December 9, 2009 2:16 PM | Report abuse

J.R.'s latest effort has made me extremely angry. F Snyder and F Vinny.

Need a four game win streak and hope that these two franchise killing draftees will be off the board.

Posted by: Diesel44 | December 9, 2009 2:17 PM | Report abuse

And here we go. Welcome to the offseason on nothing but the norm.

Posted by: TWISI | December 9, 2009 2:17 PM | Report abuse

Just when Campbell is showing you something these stupid ass bamas want to gas up these classic poster boy BUSTS!

I'd take Bradford over any of these guys. And I don't even want Bradford.

Posted by: RedDMV | December 9, 2009 2:17 PM | Report abuse

I don't know whether they're serious about drafting a QB in the first round or not, but either way you can't fault Cerrato for making in-person evaluations of McCoy or Clausen. He's doing his job.

Hopefully, Vinny won't be here after the 16th game, but I can't hate on him for scouting college players until then.

Posted by: MrRedskin21 | December 9, 2009 2:19 PM | Report abuse

CAMPBELL is the burr under SNYDER's saddle. And DANO is willing to explore any end to scratch the itch it leaves. BLING, bling,bling. Damm, isn't having a fantasy league NFL team to root for great?

This is a mistake IMHO. Solidify the d-backfield and the 0-line first. It only requires another year and a few good men, about four FA's(LT, K, SS-OLB, CB) and five draftees, only two of which absolutely need to be good enough to make immediate impacts, ERIC BERRY and a solid RT.

But when have SNYDER and "Bag-man" VINNIE ever put horses before carts in D.C. I swear, I think they suffer from ADD. Foolish, and infantile thinking or rather lack of. Instant gratification personified.

Posted by: glawrence007 | December 9, 2009 2:19 PM | Report abuse

I think Danny is just taking Vin places to look for a new job.

Posted by: ITouchdownThere | December 9, 2009 2:20 PM | Report abuse

theCork

"I'm with PARCELLS. Don't draft an RB and his 3-5 year career expectancy in the first round. Take Big uglies when you can."

His dolphins' team features two 1st round running backs--Ronnie Brown/Ricky Williams.

But I get your point.

Posted by: MistaMoe | December 9, 2009 2:20 PM | Report abuse

It is so funny how some go nuts over what JReid or someone from the WaPo posts on RI.

This does not mean that the FO is going in this direction. WaPo knows they get more hits with this kind of drivel than writing about the year Rocky is having or any of the other young players on this team.

Posted by: Curzon417 | December 9, 2009 2:20 PM | Report abuse

ANYBODY GOING TO THE GAME IN OAKLAND THIS WEEKEND? i live here, so im going and will be showing some Redskins love.

Posted by: SkinsInSichuan | December 9, 2009 2:12 PM

Oakland = Sichuan? Man, there's something wrong with my maps (and such).

NateinthePDX will be down for the game. He'll buy you all the beer you can drink, and will choose a better label than you would have selected. Can't beat it with a stick.

Posted by: League-Source | December 9, 2009 2:20 PM | Report abuse

Good news about Ganther, and then this...ugh...2001/2002/2003/2004/ called, they said they've seen this movie, and it doesn't end well.....

Posted by: BeantownGreg1 | December 9, 2009 2:21 PM | Report abuse

Posted by: League-Source | December 9, 2009 2:16 PM

It would be nice to think that this FO could run a little misdirection, but they've always been transparent.

I would love to play a little poker with these dopes.

Posted by: Diesel44 | December 9, 2009 2:22 PM | Report abuse

I'm saying: If the Redskins draft either of these guys in the first I'm NOT FOLLWING THEM during 2010.

I WOULDN'T want them to lose, but I wouldn't be able to follow them anymore.

Not until Cerrato was fired and a real GM was brought in and LEFT ALONE to do his job.

Posted by: RedDMV | December 9, 2009 2:22 PM | Report abuse

I not going to get too worked up because it's early in the process. However, if JC continues to play well over the last 4 games, I think it would be stupid to give up on him, when other positions are needed.

Posted by: TWISI | December 9, 2009 2:22 PM | Report abuse

Taking a QB in the second round might not be a bad idea, but I don't see a QB out there that is worthy of the 'skins first pick. I don't see McCoy being a quality pro QB. If there is, I don't trust either Cerrato or Danny to make that determination.

Posted by: ZardsFan1 | December 9, 2009 2:25 PM | Report abuse

I'm saying: If the Redskins draft either of these guys in the first I'm NOT FOLLWING THEM during 2010.

I WOULDN'T want them to lose, but I wouldn't be able to follow them anymore.

Not until Cerrato was fired and a real GM was brought in and LEFT ALONE to do his job.

Posted by: RedDMV | December 9, 2009 2:22 PM

In your case, Red, I really don't give a ratz azz whether you follow them or not, just as long as you keep posting up here.

Posted by: League-Source | December 9, 2009 2:25 PM | Report abuse

How about Vinny and Co. look at the Outland Trophy (top college lineman) candidates to see if they could help get any QB to stay upright first? Instead of the next Health Shuler?

Outland Trophy Finalists for 2009
http://www.sportswriters.net/fwaa/news/2009/outland091123.html

I realize that's moot too since competent NFL GMs find OL gems lower in the draft every year. But it would be nice for our 'Skins to spend a 1st round pick on a lineman for change.

Posted by: blackjack65 | December 9, 2009 2:26 PM | Report abuse

Aaron Rodgers (sacked 45 times) has faced more pressure, and has 25 TDs to only 7 INTs.

Posted by: MrRedskin21 | December 9, 2009 2:15 PM | Report abuse

Sweet let's draft Aaron Rodgers....O wait he's already on a team.

Posted by: PAskinsfan17 | December 9, 2009 2:27 PM | Report abuse

yeh I moved to oakland, a journey long and strange. so I didnt update my name-thingy. sue me.

Posted by: SkinsInSichuan | December 9, 2009 2:27 PM | Report abuse

"McCoy, Clausen draw Redskins' attention"


Refresh my rememberies...which one is the LT and which one is the RT?

Also, Sichuan...Nate, our fine correspondent from Portland, will be there Sunday, along with the Redskins #1 fan from Down Under.

Posted by: 4-12 | December 9, 2009 2:28 PM | Report abuse

not getting worked up about this right now....serenity, and stuff..

Posted by: BeantownGreg1 | December 9, 2009 2:29 PM | Report abuse

Nothing wrong w/ finding a QB that wins more than 35% of his starts but Clausen (dumb loser) and Mccoy (system) or broken Bradford aren't the answer.

Posted by: Realness1 | December 9, 2009 2:29 PM | Report abuse

"I don't know whether they're serious about drafting a QB in the first round or not, but either way you can't fault Cerrato for making in-person evaluations of McCoy or Clausen. He's doing his job."

Posted by: MrRedskin21


Cerrato scouting players is a good thing. Him scouting these two BUSTS in waiting not so good.

If Cerrato wants to get kudos for scouting he should go scout some offensive lineman from a school most of us have heard of.

Then look at a few OLBs.

It's too early to explore trade back possibilities and scenarios.

Posted by: RedDMV | December 9, 2009 2:29 PM | Report abuse

No. I'm going to change his name to "MONEYSWORTH" after this season is over. "He's hurt, he's hurt, he's not playing every down. He's not earning what he's being paid."

And yet, when he's in games, I constantly see double and triple teams on him. You try pushing 1000 lbs around a football field at full speed. I'd have more than sore ankles, and so would you. ALBERT can't help it if SNYDER paid him the moon to come here, he's meeting expectations this year IMHO, and he will be a beast to behold once he's completely familiar with GREG BLATCH's system, and can count of the players around him doing what they do. Familiarity does not breed contempt on a football team. I apologize fror AH and pimp for ERIC BERRY. What can I say. I'm a sycophant where both are concerned.

Posted by: glawrence007 | December 9, 2009 2:32 PM | Report abuse

The anger is understandable.

But of course we'll all follow them in 2010.

After 7 months of no Redskins games, we will tune in even if they have Jeff George under center on opening day 2010.

Which all means one of two things:

A) We're noble creatures who display an admirable loyalty to the team.

or

B) We're suckers who just can't wait to be taken in and fleeced yet again.

Posted by: MrRedskin21 | December 9, 2009 2:32 PM | Report abuse

Ladies and Gentleman this offically confirms our worst possible nightmare. Cerrato will be back next year. This season went down the tubes for nothing. At this point I see them most likely bringing the staff back for one more year and the hierarchy will remain the same. Why would he be scouting QB's for next season if he was lame duck. This is absolutely the worst news I've heard all season. Now I understand why they are putting everyone on IR. Cerrato has told Snyder, "Look, Boss. I mean we got a Pro Bowl worth of players on IR that's why we have struggled so much". The only other option is Shanahan as Head Coach with his own staff, but with Snyder staying right where he is. What a f'in nightmare. So exactly how many Super Bowls did Shanny win without Elway? This franchise is cursed. They will never win. Not with Cerrato and Snyder continuing to call the shots.

Posted by: ElBigChroizo | December 9, 2009 2:33 PM | Report abuse

Let me also point out that this same FO once went to scout Winslow from the U and surprised everyone by taking the best player to wear a Skins uni in a long time.

WaPo stirring the pot.

Posted by: Curzon417 | December 9, 2009 2:33 PM | Report abuse

Clausen couldn't beat NAVY!!! FREAKIN NAVY!! WE TALKIN BOUT NAVY NOT USC BUT NAVY, NOT A REAL NCAA TEAM THAT CAN RECRIUT POOKEY AND RAY-RAY TO PLAY FOOTBALL BUT NAVY A SERVICE ACADEMY WITH DB'S THAT CAN'T COVER ME(i'm almost 60) AND HE DIDN'T BEAT EM THE NAVAL ACADEMY FOR GOD'S SAKE!!! AND COLT MCCOY LOOKED LIKE SH#T ON SATURDAY AND YOU WANT HIM TO DO WHAT HERE RUN FOR HIS LIFE? AND ALL OF YOU THAT THINK JOE FLACCO IS BETTER THAN JC THINK AGAIN!

Posted by: dargregmag | December 9, 2009 2:34 PM | Report abuse

Danny is personally scouting the next draft pick. And y'all think firing Vinny will solve the redskins problems.
Tsk Tsk..

Posted by: Predator48 | December 9, 2009 2:36 PM | Report abuse

Nothing wrong w/ finding a QB that wins more than 35% of his starts but Clausen (dumb loser) and Mccoy (system) or broken Bradford aren't the answer.

Posted by: Realness1 | December 9, 2009 2:29 PM | Report abuse

They should Rex Grossman. He wins 60% of his games.

Posted by: PAskinsfan17 | December 9, 2009 2:37 PM | Report abuse

It's both. Peyton has never had to deal with Stephon Heyer starting at left tackle and BMW starting at right tackle. They were only offering 2 seconds of protection. It takes Peyton 3 seconds to get rid of the ball. The Colts do have good tackles and Peyton does get rid of the ball faster. The point is that we don't have Peyton Manning. We have JC. Sometimes you have to love the one your with. JC requires a better line to be good so why not build him that better line? If we had a chance to get Peyton Manning then I'd understand the reasoning but we don't. We have a chance to get Jimmy Claussen. Quite frankly I don't think he's an upgrade. You may not like Campbell but he's our best option. Who is better AND attainable?

Posted by: PAskinsfan17 | December 9, 2009 1:57 PM | Report abuse

Who said anything about not building the line? I said its the #1 priority, I just don't think the answer is to draft Tackles in the 1st and 2nd round especially when you have Levi on your roster. Do your really think a second round rookie is better than Levi? I don't, I think we're in the market for one starting tackle. Heyer is quality depth but I'd still like to see them draft a young tackle late as well as a guard. For me the shopping list in order of priority of need is:

O Tackle
Running Back
Free Safety
Quarterback
SLB
Guard

We can find a free safety and a SLB in free agency, and I've come around on perhaps hanging on to JC but we have to add a real weapon at RB, not a late round Alridge or journeyman stopgaps like Mason and Ganther. We need a legit back.

Posted by: zjfr2 | December 9, 2009 2:15 PM | Report abuse

Posted by: zjfr2 | December 9, 2009 2:38 PM | Report abuse

Probably just doing their due diligence.

But....

If they take a QB in the 1st round, it's just the latest example of Snyder giving the fans the finger. No one here would be shocked at all if the current discussion at Redskins Park nowadays is something like this:

"Man, our offensive line is really gelling. Love the way the young guys are playing. And Levi and Mike Williams are really coming on. Maybe we don't need to upgrade there after all. Let's look into getting a stud QB or marquee RB instead."

Oh, well...

Posted by: mattylight | December 9, 2009 2:39 PM | Report abuse

Ladies and Gentleman this offically confirms our worst possible nightmare. Cerrato will be back next year.

Chorizo, it's all your fault. All that crap you wrote about underwear and circle jerking gave Vinny enough ideas on how to please the boss that he saved his job.

Posted by: daggar | December 9, 2009 2:39 PM | Report abuse

Im praying they don't take a qb in the first round. Did these two yahoo's see last weeks game, Campbell got time and made the saints pay when they tried to blitz. He is finally grasping this offense and it's showing and needs line help.. PLEASE KEEP CAMPBELL!!!!

Posted by: b145579 | December 9, 2009 2:40 PM | Report abuse

I'm still holding out hope that our FO will do the right thing and draft need, even if VC is still around. If we waste a pick on a QB it will be a long time before things improve.

Posted by: RLDRY | December 9, 2009 2:40 PM | Report abuse

It would be a shame if Dan Snyder's plane crashed with no survivors while flying to scout out the next "franchise quarterback". It would be a damned shame if Vinny weren't on the same plane.

Posted by: RedSkinHead | December 9, 2009 2:41 PM | Report abuse

McCoy....?

No.

Claussen...?

Only if its a pickle.

And if the team is considering drafting either, whither Colt Brennen?

Who drafts quarterbacks high so they can back up a back up?

Posted by: MistaMoe | December 9, 2009 2:41 PM | Report abuse

I have hope that this is Danny's way of having Vinny do something that APPEARS useful, on his way to firing him.

Oh crud, who am I kidding, we're gonna be just as f'd up again in 2010

Posted by: zcezcest1 | December 9, 2009 2:43 PM | Report abuse

If you make the assumptive leap that Snyderatto really wanted to address the Dline last year and were specifically targeting Orakpo in the draft all along, they played that hand of poker magnificently. They made the noise re Cutler, and then forced the Jets to leap up to 4 to get Sanchez. That move enabled Orakpo to fall to them at 13. Key words: Assumptive leap.

If Okung is gone (I assume Suh will be gone), I say get Berry OR trade back for the best deal you can get. Redskins need 1 stud OT to replace Heyer, they need a FS so they can put LL in the box where he belongs, they need an impact RB to replace CP, they need a LB, and they need a CB. They don't need a QB ~MORE~ than they need any of these other things. In my view, with the addition of the stud OT and an impact RB, they really don't need a new QB at all to be successful.

They also need a HC with brains AND balls. Zorn alternates being deficient in both.

Posted by: SkinsfaninKaneohe | December 9, 2009 2:43 PM | Report abuse

"Do your really think a second round rookie is better than Levi"

Levi had a good game versus NO, however prior to that, he had a lousy game versus Philly, so lets not make him out to be more than he is. The fact remains that the team needs both depth and youth on the OL, so spending a 1st and 2nd on the OL, is probably the best course of action.

If heyer goes down, you're back to BMW at the RT spot...

Spending a high pick on a RB is just a waste if you ask me....look at Pierre Thomas, get a guy like that, along with Ganther and Portis, and roll with that....

Its a passing league....get a great passing offense, and the run game will take care of itself...

Posted by: BeantownGreg1 | December 9, 2009 2:44 PM | Report abuse

And so it begins, I don't want either of these guys, especially where we'll be picking, their contracts are going to be huge and IMO there is nothing that clearly separates either of them from Bradford, Keenum, Pike, Locker, Snead, or even Tebow. If they end up with a top 8 pick and take either of these guys they're idiots, but I guess we already knew that.

on a side note, its comforting to hear that Snyder and Cerrato are scouting draft picks together, sounds like Vinny stays, and if so, I go. I can't take this anymore.

Posted by: zjfr2 | December 9, 2009 2:44 PM | Report abuse

Posted by: zjfr2 | December 9, 2009 2:15 PM | Report abuse

The problem with Levi is that he hasn't played 16 games since 2004. Only our FO would expect him to last the full season without a good backup plan(Stephon Heyer doesn't count). I'm saying two tackles because we can get great tackles this year at our draft position and because I'm anticipating an injury from Levi Jones.

As for running back we can get a good back this year in the later rounds. They are pretty stacked especially if you want to build a 2 back system. I'd rather bite the bullet on tackles now. Tackles need a little devleopment and time to gel with the rest of the line. Running backs can come in and have instant success. So why not give the line a year to gel and get a RB in 2011?

Posted by: PAskinsfan17 | December 9, 2009 2:45 PM | Report abuse

we need to go 3-13 and then let the new GM figure out who he's going to draft.

Posted by: Original_etrod | December 9, 2009 2:46 PM | Report abuse

zjfr2 is smoking crack. You must have fallen of the wagon my friend. Levi Jones is a washed up piece of garbage who is no more than a back up tackle. Heyer has zippy skills, he is perhaps the worst offensive lineman in the league. Mike "The Human Turnstile" Williams should be in the UFL, collecting towels for the wash. People here amaze me with what they are willing to settle for. You draft bookend franchise tackles if they are available, then draft another one to develop, then another one for depth, then another one for the practice squad. This team has drafted so terrible in the last 10 years that they are going to be able to fix the o-line in one year but when its as big a problem as it is here you've got to stock up on young talent to bring along. If Spiller is there and no tackles then you take Spiller and dedicate the rest of the draft to offensive line and fill in a couple of gaps. Just not the turnover you expect since we give away picks like Beantown Greg's mother gives out blow jobs left and right and League Source hands out candy to little kids on his block.

Posted by: ElBigChroizo | December 9, 2009 2:46 PM | Report abuse

Clausen couldn't beat NAVY!!! FREAKIN NAVY!! WE TALKIN BOUT NAVY NOT USC BUT NAVY, NOT A REAL NCAA TEAM THAT CAN RECRIUT POOKEY AND RAY-RAY TO PLAY FOOTBALL BUT NAVY A SERVICE ACADEMY WITH DB'S THAT CAN'T COVER ME(i'm almost 60) AND HE DIDN'T BEAT EM THE NAVAL ACADEMY FOR GOD'S SAKE!!! AND COLT MCCOY LOOKED LIKE SH#T ON SATURDAY AND YOU WANT HIM TO DO WHAT HERE RUN FOR HIS LIFE? AND ALL OF YOU THAT THINK JOE FLACCO IS BETTER THAN JC THINK AGAIN!
Posted by: dargregmag | December 9, 2009 2:34 PM

Joe Flacco beat Navy when he was at Delaware.

Just sayin.

I would still like to see Campbell in a skins uni next year…….

Posted by: dlhaze1 | December 9, 2009 2:47 PM | Report abuse

Alternative reason for this:

Keep in mind, if the Snyder has already gone to Shanny twice to ask him to coach the team (he was reportedly rebuffed twice), something might have been said during the convos to this extent:

"No, I'm not coaching right now, I want to come back in 2010. Now, for me to come to coach you guys, I need another QB. Can't roll with Campbell. Can't do it. I WANT WINNERS!" (Oh, crap, maybe that was Mike Singletary...)

Posted by: mattylight | December 9, 2009 2:51 PM | Report abuse

With their revanmped front office and consecutive #1 overall picks, the Washington Nationals are officially closer to being an annual competitor than the Skins... It's gonna be a looooong time for sustained winning football to return to DC.

Posted by: TheGreat8 | December 9, 2009 2:51 PM | Report abuse

Let's hope this is all showmanship and they really aren't seriously considering a QB with their first pick. It's kind of scary with Vinny traveling with Snyder making evaluations for next year. It kind of says Vinny is sticking around.

Wouldn't it be funny if the Redskins drafted a QB and then the QB refused to play for the Redskins ala John Elway when the Colts drafted him?

Posted by: RedSkinHead | December 9, 2009 2:52 PM | Report abuse

WalterFootball.com mock draft:

1. Cleveland - Jimmy Clausen
2. Tampa Bay - Ndamukong Suh
3. St. Louis - Jake Locker
4. Detroit - Gerald McCoy
5. Redskins - Sam Bradford
6. Kansas City - Russell Okung

I think if Okung is there at #5, we MUST take him.

Posted by: MrRedskin21 | December 9, 2009 2:52 PM | Report abuse

Daggar, its that circle jerk love that keeps Cerrato around. I heard Danny Boy is really excited after Cerrato showed him how to bukake him. My only question is, when Cerrato and Snyder are going at it with some hardcore dirty Sanchez action, who gets the moustache? Danny or Vinnie. I would assume Danny probably draws it right on Vinnie's face with his thumb and gives him a little goatie. Danny needs to get all R. Kelly on Vinnie and give him some golden shower juice all over his face. I would settle for Danny going Chris Brown and smacking his little boy Vinnie down.

Posted by: ElBigChroizo | December 9, 2009 2:53 PM | Report abuse

Baby Snyder and Cousin Vinny cant wait for the off season. While other teams are getting ready for the playoffs. Baby Snyder is gearing up for his superbowl, the offseason. Baby S. thinks he can buy a fan base with washed up stars and un-tested rookies.
If they draft a rookie QB that will set the team back 5 more years.
Fix the pieces to the puzzle, find some real soldiers to play not high paid babies. Solid Depth and a Coach that has a pair down below. (ps I dont blame Zorn, even though he is clueless. Blame the guy that hired him Cousin Vinny, for hiring an unproven coach.)
I for one vote for Campbell he fights to the end and has heart. That is far more than Baby Synder will ever have in this life time. Money wont buy Honor or Quality of Character!

Posted by: unknownsouljah | December 9, 2009 2:53 PM | Report abuse

I just want to say that I told you guys that Vinny wasn't going anywhere. I can't believe how damn dumb Dan is to keep listening to that clown.

Posted by: jm220 | December 9, 2009 2:53 PM | Report abuse

el, go over medicate yourself...

Posted by: BeantownGreg1 | December 9, 2009 2:54 PM | Report abuse

"WaPo stirring the pot."


I believe so, too.

I don't think either quarterback is 1st round, number 7-10 worthy.

A healthy Bradford would be.

So if a quarterback is what you want, snag him in the the second round.

Like the rapper, the whole thing is Ludicris.

Posted by: MistaMoe | December 9, 2009 2:55 PM | Report abuse

I'm still holding out hope that our FO will do the right thing and draft need, even if VC is still around. If we waste a pick on a QB it will be a long time before things improve.

Posted by: RLDRY

Sad to say, HOPE is all we got! Vinny always says he drafts the "best player available regardless of need." He's such an idiot! We don't need a QB! And neither of those guys would be the "best available."

Our long suffering QB Jason Campbell (WARRIOR!) is finally clicking with our young WR's and they want to screw things up and start over? Another year wasted!!!

Not to mention the best QB to go after (DEEP in the draft) would be Jake Locker.

Posted by: Lisa_R | December 9, 2009 2:56 PM | Report abuse

Real Simple.

Re-sign Campbell. Draft TEBOW. Sign a Vet QB. Keep Colt as wild card.

Posted by: filmchis | December 9, 2009 2:57 PM | Report abuse

You'll know Vinny is getting the "handshake" when we see him being sent to football games in Gaza, Afghanistan, Croatia, etc...

Posted by: RedSkinHead | December 9, 2009 2:57 PM | Report abuse

"Do your really think a second round rookie is better than Levi"

Levi had a good game versus NO, however prior to that, he had a lousy game versus Philly, so lets not make him out to be more than he is. The fact remains that the team needs both depth and youth on the OL, so spending a 1st and 2nd on the OL, is probably the best course of action.

If heyer goes down, you're back to BMW at the RT spot...

Spending a high pick on a RB is just a waste if you ask me....look at Pierre Thomas, get a guy like that, along with Ganther and Portis, and roll with that....

Its a passing league....get a great passing offense, and the run game will take care of itself...

Posted by: BeantownGreg1 | December 9, 2009 2:44 PM | Report abuse

he didn't have a "terrible" game, Jason got sacked one time the whole game on 37 attempts. Hardly terrible by anyone on that oline against a pressure defense like the Eagles. And it may be a "passing league" but we're not in a passing division. Defense and running the ball is still the best way to success in the NFC East. Campbell is good enough if we can establish that we're a real threat on the ground not just a plodding 4 yards a pop no explosiveness team on the ground. But if you really think its a "passing league" than you must be in the same boat with drafting a QB cause the one thing Campbell will never be is an elite QB he's too inaccurate and to slow in his reads.

Posted by: zjfr2 | December 9, 2009 2:58 PM | Report abuse

Danny - I promise I will buy a Suh or Okung jersey if you can manage to draft either.

Posted by: coparker5 | December 9, 2009 2:58 PM | Report abuse

Wouldn't it be funny if the Redskins drafted a QB and then the QB refused to play for the Redskins ala John Elway when the Colts drafted him?
Posted by: RedSkinHead | December 9, 2009 2:52 PM

I was saying the same thing a few weeks ago, as one of the things it might take for Danny to finally wise up and realize that he needs a real GM and needs to keep his own nose out of things.

Posted by: dlhaze1 | December 9, 2009 2:59 PM | Report abuse

Campbell in the clutch

Over at the D.C. Sports Bog, Dan Steinberg finds Campbell to be a decidedly non-money player.

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As good as Campbell looks at times, he's about as clutch as Suisham. (not good)

Posted by: filmchis | December 9, 2009 2:59 PM | Report abuse

McCoy and Clausen are both clutch. McCoy is a winner. Clausen would have been a winner if Notre Dame had any semblance of a defense. Clausen's my guy but QB is not that great a need here.

They are not going to do the right/smart thing and tender Campbell for a mere $3+ mil. Even though it's a win-win.

Posted by: learnedhand1 | December 9, 2009 3:00 PM | Report abuse

I hope this is another smoke screen. Now what actually happened last year? I hear conflicting reports.

#1 We really truly wanted Sanchez but did not have the resources to get him.

#2 Smoke screen we wanted Orakpo from day 1.

Posted by: PAskinsfan17 | December 9, 2009 3:00 PM | Report abuse

Has anybody herd of 'Due Dillegence'?

Posted by: 4thFloor | December 9, 2009 3:01 PM | Report abuse

It's the O - Line!! What a pair of dopes!!

Posted by: dph60 | December 9, 2009 3:01 PM | Report abuse

Danny - I promise I will buy a Suh or Okung jersey if you can manage to draft either.

Posted by: coparker5 | December 9, 2009 2:58 PM

Everyone order a Campbell jersey, right now.

Posted by: League-Source | December 9, 2009 3:03 PM | Report abuse

mrredskin

"I think if Okung is there at #5, we MUST take him."

If we take him, it's because we want to move him to right tackle.

Let Heyer and Jones fight over the left tackle spot.

Whatever their weakness, playing Sellars alongside the left tackle as a blocking tight end has been a fine move since Sherm Lewis came to town.

Posted by: MistaMoe | December 9, 2009 3:03 PM | Report abuse

i live in Washington state.. the word here is that if Locker doesnt get feedback that he is a certain top 10 pick, he is coming back to play for his senior year.
Sarkasian (his coach) is reportedly pressuring him to return.. the issues are possible injury, impact of the expiring cap and a possible rookie wage scale, so it is really complicated.

my guess is that Locker comes out, but i dont think he is going to make an early decision..

Posted by: shally | December 9, 2009 3:03 PM | Report abuse

Is drafting Suh worth trading up 4 spots to #1? Discuss.

Posted by: TWISI | December 9, 2009 3:04 PM | Report abuse

Has anybody herd of 'Due Dillegence'?

Posted by: 4thFloor | December 9, 2009 3:01 PM | Report abuse

No, but we are familiar with 'Mass Hysteria' 'Chicken Little.'

Posted by: Original_etrod | December 9, 2009 3:04 PM | Report abuse

as i suspected all along, snyder has no intention of moving aside or getting rid of ceRATto --- these two morons will continue running the franchise into the ground until the fans actually stop supporting this insanity

bloggers might make fun of all the calls for a boycott but in the end that's the only thing that will work, to force the dark one (snyder) to stop meddling

riggo had it right!

Posted by: bestmick1 | December 9, 2009 3:05 PM | Report abuse

I simply can not envision a miracle season for a rookie QB, if drafted by the Skins. Not with the patched O-Line. We're not Pittsburg or Baltimore or Atlanta; teams who build O-Line through drafting and then select a QB.

I doubt that current Skins' players would be highly motivated with a rookie first-round QB behind center.

It is pretty ironic that both Cutler and Sanchez are having horrible seasons.

Posted by: AllThatSkins | December 9, 2009 3:05 PM | Report abuse

OK, here we go -- the one season where Redskins shine, the Offseason. So let's get to it. My take: McCoy, good brain, weak arm. Clausen, big arm, no brain. Willing to wait and see how Bradford recovers. Think he's got the whole package.

Posted by: bones21 | December 9, 2009 3:06 PM | Report abuse

Let's draft McCoy, and then go win the Big 12!

Posted by: BrokenClipboard | December 9, 2009 3:06 PM | Report abuse

Let Heyer and Jones fight over the left tackle spot.

Whatever their weakness, playing Sellars alongside the left tackle as a blocking tight end has been a fine move since Sherm Lewis came to town.

Posted by: MistaMoe | December 9, 2009 3:03 PM | Report abuse

Moe that was a joke right?

Posted by: mattylight | December 9, 2009 3:06 PM | Report abuse

Another round of the Dboy and Cerr-not-o. It just won't end! This living nightmare just won't end... I don't know how much more of this disrespect of Skins fans I can take...

Posted by: harryrainbolt | December 9, 2009 3:07 PM | Report abuse

just want to say that I told you guys that Vinny wasn't going anywhere. I can't believe how damn dumb Dan is to keep listening to that clown.

Posted by: jm220 | December 9, 2009 2:53 PM | Report abuse

Maybe there REALLY is more to their relationship than meets the eye.

Posted by: glawrence007 | December 9, 2009 3:07 PM | Report abuse

zj, the eagles have scored 127 more points than the Redskins, and yet only have outrushed them by 90 yards...

the eagles who probably will win the division...

and who have won more division titles in the past 10 years that any other team....

but, keep beating that drum that we need to go back to running the counter trey in order to win.

What you're advocating is that we play to defeat our interdivisional opponents, which is 6 games total, while putting aside the rest of the games, which total 10...seems a little backwards doesn't it....

Posted by: BeantownGreg1 | December 9, 2009 3:07 PM | Report abuse

Ladies and Gentleman this offically confirms our worst possible nightmare. Cerrato will be back next year. This season went down the tubes for nothing. At this point I see them most likely bringing the staff back for one more year and the hierarchy will remain the same. Why would he be scouting QB's for next season if he was lame duck. This is absolutely the worst news I've heard all season. Now I understand why they are putting everyone on IR. Cerrato has told Snyder, "Look, Boss. I mean we got a Pro Bowl worth of players on IR that's why we have struggled so much". The only other option is Shanahan as Head Coach with his own staff, but with Snyder staying right where he is. What a f'in nightmare. So exactly how many Super Bowls did Shanny win without Elway? This franchise is cursed. They will never win. Not with Cerrato and Snyder continuing to call the shots.

Posted by: ElBigChroizo | December 9, 2009 2:33 PM | Report abuse

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DING DING DING DING DING WE HAVE A WINNER!

Posted by: BrokenClipboard | December 9, 2009 3:08 PM | Report abuse

AGH! I almost punched the computer screen when I saw this headline!! AGH!

I'm on the fence about Campbell, but wow - QB is so not on the top of the list of our needs.

Posted by: suzannepdc | December 9, 2009 3:09 PM | Report abuse

I just want to say that I told you guys that Vinny wasn't going anywhere. I can't believe how damn dumb Dan is to keep listening to that clown.
Posted by: jm220 | December 9, 2009 2:53 PM |

We should have listened to you. We were all so sure that he was going to fire Vinny by week 14……

Posted by: dlhaze1 | December 9, 2009 3:09 PM | Report abuse

And finally, the last group of people in the world who know what the Redskins are going to do in any situation is the group over at the WaPo.

Who was it that said no way Skins sign Haynesworth?

Posted by: Curzon417 | December 9, 2009 3:09 PM | Report abuse

Here we go again. These two buffoons can't get it right worth beans.

TRADE DOWN!!!!!!!

Tank the rest of the season. Take the #4 draft position and trade it down for a lower 1 and 2 or even a 1 and 3. Then get OL, OL, FS.

Trade Cooley for an OLB and a mid-to-low round draft pick.

re-sign JC (if he would even take the money) or elevate Colt to starter. any QB you get this season isn't going to be worth beans as a starter anyway, so we might as well find out once and for all if Colt can play.

Posted by: ProfessorWrightBSU | December 9, 2009 3:10 PM | Report abuse

curz, I was one who said that....didn't think they could get it done.....

Posted by: BeantownGreg1 | December 9, 2009 3:12 PM | Report abuse

=>Aaron Rodgers (sacked 45 times) has faced more pressure, and has 25 TDs to only 7 INTs.

Posted by: MrRedskin21

What's your point? Aaron Rodgers is in his 5th year in the same system. And he's better than JC. The article is pointing out that he has improved in spite of the circumstances and is much better than the guys we tried to replace him with.

Posted by: geotherm21 | December 9, 2009 3:12 PM | Report abuse

"Trade Cooley for an OLB and a mid-to-low round draft pick."
Posted by: ProfessorWrightBSU | December 9, 2009 3:10 PM |

Serious? Trade Cooley?

After that statement, you just made Vinny look like Bill Polian. No way we trade Captain Chaos.

Posted by: AllThatSkins | December 9, 2009 3:14 PM | Report abuse

Viny needs to go!!! draft a QB what a JOke, fix the O-line & get Jason some Help!!!!I can't believe how dumb snyder is...

Posted by: Tonyp316 | December 9, 2009 3:15 PM | Report abuse

These g*ddamn morons don't know what they're doing! The best QB draft pick these idiots could conjure is the next Ryan Leaf. Jimmy Clausen is a moron for entering the draft. He's immature and he SUCKS. As for Colt McCoy, it appears that these knuckleheads are enamored with the name "Colt".

What was their reasoning for getting Brennan and Daniels in the preseason if they're just going to draft more inexperienced young guys? We don't need a new QB, at least not for 1 more year. What's going to happen is that these idiots will get rid of Jason and probably Todd, and we'll have 0 experienced QBs. One of these young guys will be given way too much way too early and he'll end up like Stafford and throw bulls-eyes to the cornerbacks.

This season has made clear what we lack:

1) Offensive linemen
2) Secondary

Find these guys and fix it Sny-durr and Cerra-d'oh.

Posted by: MyPostIDisAfake | December 9, 2009 3:16 PM | Report abuse

We should start a petition to get Vinny Fired Just like Kansas did!!!!

Posted by: Tonyp316 | December 9, 2009 3:16 PM | Report abuse

Eventually Snyder & Cerrato will have exhausted all the wrong ways to build a team and the only thing left will be to do the right thing. Unfortunately, that might not happen for years to come. How can reasonably smart people never learn? If they don't focus on the o-line this offseason(like they did on the d-line this year), well...the proof is in the Saints game. Campbell wasn't sacked and he produced. He outplayed the most potent QB in the league. So what does that say about making keeping him upright our top priority?

Posted by: tundey | December 9, 2009 3:18 PM | Report abuse

Maybe drafting Clausen is the only way to get Charlie Weis to come to town...

Posted by: RedSkinHead | December 9, 2009 3:19 PM | Report abuse

What you're advocating is that we play to defeat our interdivisional opponents, which is 6 games total, while putting aside the rest of the games, which total 10...seems a little backwards doesn't it....

Posted by: BeantownGreg1 | December 9, 2009 3:07 PM | Report abuse

What I'm advocating is presently we have the least talented QB in our division. If we expect to compete for anything with him at the helm then we absolutely have to have a great defense and be able to legitimately run the ball on anybody anytime anywhere. If you want to scrap JC and start over then ok, I'm fine with that too, I think JC isn't a good QB so great. But right now I think we have the nucleus of a great defense that is a SLB and FS away from greatness, we have decent weapons for the passing game, and I think Levi has shown he can still be good in this league. You slide him back to his natural position at RT, you keep heyer as depth, you either draft or sign a legit LT and then you add a real weapon at RB and we can compete with anyone. That seems to me to be easier at this point then gambling on the messiah at QB. I still think QB is a need, but not in the top 10 and not as big a need is a running back. Matt Ryan looked pretty good with a healthy Turner, Vince Young looks pretty good with a dynamic Chris Johnson, Brett Favre is having the best season of his career with AP, and blah blah blah. For my money sign a FS and SLB, keep Levi, draft Spiller and take a tackle high in the second round. Then with the latter picks take a guard, another tackle and WR to replace Randel El.

Posted by: zjfr2 | December 9, 2009 3:20 PM | Report abuse

If we draft a QB #1

and get rid if JC

it would be the stupidest thing ever

this is worse than the B-Mitch thing

if fact.... Snyder may totally lose his fan base.

Unless VICK is available....keep JC

The skins brass will pick the best player in the top ten, even if it's a corner

your thoughts

Posted by: skinsbacker | December 9, 2009 3:21 PM | Report abuse

greg thanks for your honesty, but the correct answer was jasno. Canty was his choice as well.

My point being (to the hamsters running to the ledge) that just because RI posts it, does not mean it's true.

Posted by: Curzon417 | December 9, 2009 3:26 PM | Report abuse

I am not of the belief that JC is capable of taking us to the SB. HOWEVER, Jimmy Clausen is so clearly the second coming of Brady Quinn. Except, not as talented... Let OMS (Old Man Sherm) keep managing the offense for JC, tighten up the other holes at FS, SAM, OL, and RB...

Posted by: Club320 | December 9, 2009 3:28 PM | Report abuse

"in our division"

again, you're looking at 6 games, versus 10 games....you think the Colts care if they run the ball..you think the Pats care if they run the ball...you think the Saints care if they run the ball...

sure the titans look great with Johnson, but they're looking up at the Colts, who by the way have 160 fewer rushing yards than the redskins.....

The Redskins run game has looked its best with Ganther, 7th round pick, and Rock 7th round pick carrying the ball....

Posted by: BeantownGreg1 | December 9, 2009 3:28 PM | Report abuse

Danny and Vinny are idiots who will never learn. No quarterback living or dead can complete a pass while lying on his back. Draft some offensive linemen.

Posted by: michaelhoxie | December 9, 2009 3:28 PM | Report abuse

Not even Christmas and we are already hearing these rumors. If Dan and Vinny do this than they haven't learned a thing about football! We shouldn't even be hearing these rumors because the only scouting that should be going on is for o-line and running backs. Pathetic.

Posted by: authorofpoetry | December 9, 2009 3:28 PM | Report abuse

skinsbacker, we already have a qb with accuracy problems on mid to long passes, why would we want another in Vick?

No thanks to Vick and the two named on this post.

Posted by: Curzon417 | December 9, 2009 3:29 PM | Report abuse

So, when they call Anthony Alridge into the coaches office "and bring your playbook", do they refer to it as "cutting", or do they just tell him "we're fumbling you for a little while; we'll see if we make the recovery".

Posted by: daggar | December 9, 2009 3:29 PM | Report abuse

Vinny should be interviewing for media jobs at this point, instead of scouting players. The Skins should www.firevinny.com.

Posted by: Kenbeatrizz | December 9, 2009 3:30 PM | Report abuse

Not even Christmas and we are already hearing these rumors. If Dan and Vinny do this than they haven't learned a thing about football! We shouldn't even be hearing these rumors because the only scouting that should be going on is for o-line and running backs. Pathetic.

Posted by: authorofpoetry | December 9, 2009 3:28 PM | Report abuse

On the other hand if someone else wants Claussen and thinks we're taking him it may allow us to trade out of our pick.

Posted by: PAskinsfan17 | December 9, 2009 3:32 PM | Report abuse

Danny and Vinny are idiots who will never learn. No quarterback living or dead can complete a pass while lying on his back. Draft some offensive linemen.
Posted by: michaelhoxie | December 9, 2009 3:28 PM

Just being nit-picky here, but I think Doug Williams did it once when he was on the Bucs….threw a TD pass after he tripped over one of his lineman’s feet and fell flat on his back. It’s a nice old NFL Films clip…..

Posted by: dlhaze1 | December 9, 2009 3:32 PM | Report abuse

People used to draft players based on their divisional opponents strengths (ie the Packers drafting all those DB's when Moss was in their division). With all the player movements these days, it doesn't make sense to draft based on divisions, especially with such similar schemes around the league.

Posted by: authorofpoetry | December 9, 2009 3:32 PM | Report abuse

PASkins - True! Personally I would like to see us dump some older guys and get more draft picks...

Posted by: authorofpoetry | December 9, 2009 3:34 PM | Report abuse

So, when they call Anthony Alridge into the coaches office "and bring your playbook", do they refer to it as "cutting", or do they just tell him "we're fumbling you for a little while; we'll see if we make the recovery".

Posted by: daggar | December 9, 2009 3:29 PM
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Good one.

Posted by: RedSkinHead | December 9, 2009 3:37 PM | Report abuse

Oh that‘s just great, this sounds like Snyder has NO plans to even think about getting rid of Vinny. Vinny has to go I like the fact that Snyder wants to win and will spend a lot to do so. But why in the hell is he going on these scouting trips? If he is going to watch and observe great! But if he is giving input and making choices on these draft picks that's crazy and he is not qualified at all! Bottom line! I also don't want to hear that it's his team and he can do what he wants with it.

Posted by: fourj4 | December 9, 2009 3:37 PM | Report abuse

I'm saying: If the Redskins draft either of these guys in the first I'm NOT FOLLWING THEM during 2010.

I WOULDN'T want them to lose, but I wouldn't be able to follow them anymore.

Not until Cerrato was fired and a real GM was brought in and LEFT ALONE to do his job.

Posted by: RedDMV | December 9, 2009 2:22 PM | Report abuse

RED, man, you better hope for an untimely death of the owner then, cause short of SNYDER leaving, which he will never do voluntarily, the REDSKINS will continue to suffer from the same malaise - over management.

Posted by: glawrence007 | December 9, 2009 3:37 PM | Report abuse

I just like to see us draft a Tackle in round one.... Somebody to replace Chris Samuels. Levi move to RT. A Guard to compete for the void Randy Thomas has left.

What do we have? Picks in Rounds 1, 2, 4, 5, 6 and 7?

Posted by: AllThatSkins | December 9, 2009 3:41 PM | Report abuse

"in our division"

again, you're looking at 6 games, versus 10 games....you think the Colts care if they run the ball..you think the Pats care if they run the ball...you think the Saints care if they run the ball...

sure the titans look great with Johnson, but they're looking up at the Colts, who by the way have 160 fewer rushing yards than the redskins.....

The Redskins run game has looked its best with Ganther, 7th round pick, and Rock 7th round pick carrying the ball....

Posted by: BeantownGreg1 | December 9, 2009 3:28 PM | Report abuse

Bean your missing the point, fine you want to go out of the division?

QBs no argument that are better
1 Drew Brees
2 Brett Favre
3 Philip Rivers
4 Aaron Rodgers
5 Peyton Manning
6 Ben Roethlisberger
7 Matt Schaub
8 Kurt Warner
9 Tom Brady
10 Tony Romo
11 Donovan McNabb
12 Eli Manning
13 Carson Palmer
14 Matt Ryan
15 Matt Hasselbeck (when healthy)

QBs I think are better but are in the same neighborhood.

16 Joe Flacco
17 Jay Cutler
18 Vince Young
19 David Garrard
20 Kyle Orton

Young QBs off to good starts with the potential to be better

21 Matt Sanchez
22 Matt Stafford
23 Chad Henne
24 Josh Freeman

QBs he's definately better than

Russel, Alex Smith, Matt Cassel, Delhomme,
Edwards, Quinn etc.

So at absolute best if you concede every toss up on the list he's a middle of the pack QB, he needs a great defense and a great running back to win. Jason Campbell with an improved line isn't suddenly going to be an accurate, decisive passer who can carry a team. When we had good protection and a good running game we were 6-2 last year and he still averaged less than a TD a game. He's good enough to win with, he's not good enough to be the centerpiece of a pass first offense.

Posted by: zjfr2 | December 9, 2009 3:41 PM | Report abuse

what will be the the crowning moment of stupidity will be if they let JC walk and get nothing in return.....that will be stunningly dumb...

Posted by: BeantownGreg1 | December 9, 2009 3:41 PM | Report abuse

Not sure if this has been posted or true, but have not seen it anywhere else.

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ASHBURN, Va. - The Washington Redskins (web | news) are making yet another change in the backfield.

Quinton Ganther will start Sunday's game against Oakland. He becomes the team's fourth starting running back this season.
Ganther moves ahead of Rock Cartwright, who started the last two games.

http://www.news8.net/news/stories/1209/685854.html

Posted by: Curzon417 | December 9, 2009 3:42 PM | Report abuse

woops, that was Mark Sanchez

Posted by: zjfr2 | December 9, 2009 3:43 PM | Report abuse

The only QB stat that counts is the W-L ratio... and JC17's record is abysmal. Regardless of year, coach, supporting cast, cause, excuse or alibi -- the results of JC17's last 4 and half seasons with the Redskins show him to be a proven loser. I can't imagine why anyone would even consider keeping him around so much as a moment longer. Get rid of the bum!!

Posted by: Vic1 | December 9, 2009 3:43 PM | Report abuse

The belief among some at Redskins Park is that Snyder and Cerrato plan to use the team's first draft pick this year in their quest to find the Redskins' next franchise quarterback
JReid

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Shankham told JReid this before he left.

Posted by: Curzon417

BullSh!t..Harvey told him this...

Posted by: jcnjcnj | December 9, 2009 3:44 PM | Report abuse

Keep Campbell. Several options here: Draft a QB let the rook and Campbell compete OR match another teams contract offer to JC, then negotiate a deal that includes draft picks. Try to trade Portis for draft picks. Trade Carlos Rogers or match offer and negotiate draft picks to complete the trade. Draft O-linemen first! Draft a linebacker so we can move Orakpo to the DE position where he belongs. For the love of God do not draft Clausen! Clausen = Shuler! I'm not sold on McCoy either. Another scenerio: Maybe keep Campbell another year, match offers to Carlos and try to get Draft picks. Trade Portis for Draft picks 2010 or 2011 picks will do. Draft o-linemen 2010. Try to make a play for Jake Locker in 2011 Draft by trading some of the newly acquired draft picks received for Rogers or Portis....

Posted by: ljhartnett24 | December 9, 2009 3:44 PM | Report abuse

Two things wrong.. Cerrato and Snyder scouting ???? that is disaster right there. It means nothing will change and we will be debating the same thing next year. Napolean, this isn't madden 10!!! honestly, take your first pick and get Suh... this will shore up a mean, young pass rush happy D-line... which we lack then go into the 2-4 rounds and get you OL, RB then maybe a QB. They will never get it... I am slowly and slowly losing interest in the team that I have cheered on for my entire life. If this nonesense continues, I will disassociate myself as a fan ofthe skins and just be a fan of football.

Posted by: rvanags | December 9, 2009 3:45 PM | Report abuse

PASkins - True! Personally I would like to see us dump some older guys and get more draft picks...

Posted by: authorofpoetry | December 9, 2009 3:34 PM | Report abuse

Too bad we gave them all stupid long contracts worth way too much money. We couldn't dump ARE, Carter, Moss, or Portis if we tried. We'd have to pay someone to take them off our hands. I actually like having some of these vets around. I like Moss, Cooley, Phil Daniels, and Carter. Moss is the speedy slot guy. We don't have another Moss on the roster. Cooley is too good and too young to get rid of. Why not innovate with the 2 TE formation? Phil Daniels had a great work ethic and is a trmendous run stuffer. He's the guy you want Jarmon to learn from. Carter is another good vet leader. Wynn, ARE, Samuels, Thomas, Betts, and Rabach can go for all I care.

Posted by: PAskinsfan17 | December 9, 2009 3:45 PM | Report abuse

"Jason Campbell with an improved line isn't suddenly going to be an accurate, decisive passer who can carry a team"

Did you watch the NO game?? JC got protection, threw for a career high in yards, and the team was there right up until the end against one of the top teams in the league.....

Posted by: BeantownGreg1 | December 9, 2009 3:46 PM | Report abuse

Let me see if I have this right.

They won't tender Campbell, so no compensation for him.

They will use the #1 pick on a Jersey salesman, a rookie QB,

Because Campbell is gone, and Snyder wants to sell jerseys, the rook will start earlier rather than sooner behind a defective line with NO running attack.

Idiots.

Posted by: TheCork | December 9, 2009 3:46 PM | Report abuse

Scariest thing you can say to a Skins fan:

Dan Snyder and (fill in the blank) attend fill in the blank) to scout (fill in the blank).

Posted by: bozomoeman | December 9, 2009 3:46 PM | Report abuse

PA, if you move Moss to the slot, do you also make him the #1 punt returner?

Maybe something to think about.

Posted by: Curzon417 | December 9, 2009 3:49 PM | Report abuse

cork, what percent of revenue is from jersey sales??

Posted by: BeantownGreg1 | December 9, 2009 3:49 PM | Report abuse

Snyder to Vinny at Texas football game: "This kid McCoy looks good."

Vinny: "Yeah, I like the way he parts his hair."

Snyder: "No, I meant the face. He's photogenic. We could sell some posters with that face."

Vinny: "Oh. Yeah. I don't know, boss. He kind of reminds me of Opie."

Snyder: "Think of the marketing possibilities of having two guys named Colt on the same team. It'd be like the Westerns: the Redskins marched into town with two colts and an axe to grind..."

Vinny: "Uh, we have a player named axe?"

Snyder: "No. Vinny, go get me some popcorn, will you?"

Snyder puts cell phone to ear: "Hey, Ginger. Could you get me the demographics for jersey sales in Texas? That bad? What would it do to our sales if we drafted a QB from Texas? I see. Good. Negative response if we dump the guy from Louisana? Yeah. Who buys jerseys in swamp country any how, right?"

Posted by: RedSkinHead | December 9, 2009 3:49 PM | Report abuse

The only QB stat that counts is the W-L ratio... and JC17's record is abysmal. Regardless of year, coach, supporting cast, cause, excuse or alibi -- the results of JC17's last 4 and half seasons with the Redskins show him to be a proven loser. I can't imagine why anyone would even consider keeping him around so much as a moment longer. Get rid of the bum!!

Posted by: Vic1 | December 9, 2009 3:43 PM | Report abuse

So Rex Grossman is better than Sonny Jurgensen?

Posted by: PAskinsfan17 | December 9, 2009 3:49 PM | Report abuse

I prefer the Skins pick up a FA QB like David Carr and have him compete with Colt Brennan for the starting job.. and use the 1st round pick on a LT. But if drafting a QB is the only way to get rid of Campbell.. then please do it!! 5-17 last 22 games.. I'm tied of looking at Campbell's face when the Skins LOSE!!!

Posted by: sovine08 | December 9, 2009 3:49 PM | Report abuse

"So at absolute best if you concede every toss up on the list he's a middle of the pack QB, he needs a great defense and a great running back to win"
Posted by: zjfr2 | December 9, 2009 3:41 PM

The majority of those QBs that were listed on your silly list actually have good to great defenses to go along with outstanding line play, and RBs.

Haters gonna Hate

Posted by: AllThatSkins | December 9, 2009 3:50 PM | Report abuse

just the fact that the evil midget, Dan Snyder, and his hopelessly incompetent puppet, Vinny Cerrato are on the road scouting is sickening.

How many NFL teams have the owners "scouting" players?

Posted by: nativedc | December 9, 2009 3:52 PM | Report abuse

How many NFL teams have the owners "scouting" players?

Posted by: nativedc | December 9, 2009 3:52 PM

You mean besides Raiders and cowgirls?

Posted by: Curzon417 | December 9, 2009 3:54 PM | Report abuse

theCork

"I'm with PARCELLS. Don't draft an RB and his 3-5 year career expectancy in the first round. Take Big uglies when you can."

His dolphins' team features two 1st round running backs--Ronnie Brown/Ricky Williams.

But I get your point.

Posted by: MistaMoe | December 9, 2009 2:20 PM | Report abuse

Except that ricky wasn't a Phins pick, he was brought in as a Free Agent.
Clausen Might be worth picking that high, but Not McCoy, his size I believe is smaller than Henne Coming out, and I think henne was a better prospect.

Posted by: Veretax | December 9, 2009 3:54 PM | Report abuse

From RI:

McCoy, Clausen draw Redskins' attention

Owner Daniel Snyder and Vinny Cerrato, Washington's executive vice president of football operations, recently attended a University of Texas game to scout quarterback Colt McCoy, according to sources within the organization. Cerrato also made a trip to conduct an in-person evaluation of Notre Dame junior quarterback Jimmy Clausen, who this week declared for the draft.

After reading this post I feel like Tiger or Isiah must have felt after scarfing a bottle of Ambien (barbituate).

1. Snyder is going to be involved in making major personnel decisions going forward even though his past handiwork has producted a 3-9 record.

2. The Vinster is going to be right there as well.

3. They are scouting out questionable QB prospects as if they intend to blow a 1st round pick on one of them even though the OL is crumbly wumbly.

Posted by: ElevatorAl | December 9, 2009 3:54 PM | Report abuse

"Jason Campbell with an improved line isn't suddenly going to be an accurate, decisive passer who can carry a team"

Did you watch the NO game?? JC got protection, threw for a career high in yards, and the team was there right up until the end against one of the top teams in the league.....
Posted by: BeantownGreg1
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Yes I did and JC threw against a team with there 3 best DB's out. Alos NO came of a big win Monday night... Clearly the Skins caught them at the right time.. and still the Skins lost. Campbell had good numbers for THIS TIME.. but how about all the times he played like crap. Besides at the end of the end when the Skins needed Campbell to step up.. he threw a pick.. third week in a row Campbell had the ball in his hands at the end and couldn't get a win. Time to move on with someone else at QB.

Posted by: sovine08 | December 9, 2009 3:56 PM | Report abuse

Luxury Boxes and things of this nature = unshared revenue = 100 percent goes to the team selling the box...only 1 team gets access to this money

Jersey sales = shared revenue = all 32 NFL teams share in this money = jersey sales/32= redskins share

Can we puh-leeze put the moronic idea that the Redskins are only interested in selling jersey's to bed now....I mean, its just galactically stupid to suggest it...

Posted by: BeantownGreg1 | December 9, 2009 3:56 PM | Report abuse

"Jason Campbell with an improved line isn't suddenly going to be an accurate, decisive passer who can carry a team"

Did you watch the NO game?? JC got protection, threw for a career high in yards, and the team was there right up until the end against one of the top teams in the league.....

Posted by: BeantownGreg1 | December 9, 2009 3:46 PM | Report abuse

really bean? you of the wait and see variety after 5 seasons of inaccuracy and bad decisions assume one game and all of a sudden he's turned a corner and is an elite QB? I did watch the game, and I saw him hit a defender in the chest for a pick six that was dropped the play before DT's tip toe TD if that corner catches the ball its a totally different game. I watched him in the clutch with a chance to win the game 15 yards from field goal range throw a pick. And in overtime I watched him check down to a back who was one step from getting smacked by a defender, Sellers has to hold on to that ball that's his job, but still not the greatest decision. He's good enough to win with, he's not good enough to be the center of a pass first attack.

You wanna go pass first? I'm all for it, dump JC, draft a left tackle one and take Tony Pike or Case Keenum at the top of round two and lets throw it 45 times a game. I'm fine with it, but don't piss down my back and call it rain by saying all we need is a better oline with the running backs we have because Campbell by himself is good enough to make this team a contender. I promise you, give him 6 seconds to throw every throw, every game and if you have the backs we have now our ceiling is 9-7 and we'll never be a championship team, JC just isn't good enough.

Posted by: zjfr2 | December 9, 2009 3:56 PM | Report abuse

The only QB stat that counts is the W-L ratio... and JC17's record is abysmal. Regardless of year, coach, supporting cast, cause, excuse or alibi -- the results of JC17's last 4 and half seasons with the Redskins show him to be a proven loser. I can't imagine why anyone would even consider keeping him around so much as a moment longer. Get rid of the bum!!

Posted by: Vic1 | December 9, 2009 3:43 PM | Report abuse

You're right. A great QB would rise above our terrible owner and GM, dumb coach, porous offensive line, lack of a consistent running game, subpar secondary, and choker of a kicker, and win games. Not defending JC -- for sure he's not an elite QB, probably never will be, but c'mon...

Posted by: mattylight | December 9, 2009 3:58 PM | Report abuse

3 - 9. Nothing is changing. PATHETIC.

Posted by: BrokenClipboard | December 9, 2009 3:58 PM | Report abuse

We have to make a stand...DO SOMETHING....like picket Redskins Park.

Snyder may be an idiot but he does listen to the fans outrage....remember when he planned to bring in Fassel and the fans were livid and let it be known?

Posted by: Lisa_R | December 9, 2009 3:59 PM | Report abuse

So Rex Grossman is better than Sonny Jurgensen?

Posted by: PAskinsfan17 | December 9, 2009 3:49 PM
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Can Sonny start on Sunday? Get off it, will you? Campbell has looked a lot better over the last few games but he can't win them. Every week there is another excuse, but I think Vic1 and crew are on to something here. Maybe it's a lack of a competitive streak or maybe it's an inability to rally his teammates, but JC just can't seem to win games. I'd rather win ugly than lose pretty.

I don't think they should toss him in the street, but how much do you want the team to invest in a guy who can't win?

Posted by: RedSkinHead | December 9, 2009 3:59 PM | Report abuse

If we draft a QB in the first round, I'm done with the Redskins until Snyder sells the team.

Posted by: restonhoops | December 9, 2009 4:00 PM | Report abuse

cork, what percent of revenue is from jersey sales??

Posted by: BeantownGreg1 | December 9, 2009 3:49 PM | Report abuse

Danny takes home 1/32 of the licensing fees on every jersey sold.

I'd be surprised if more than 5% of Redskin's revenue comes from jersey sales.

Posted by: PortisPocketsStr8 | December 9, 2009 4:02 PM | Report abuse

"I did watch the game, and I saw him hit a defender in the chest for a pick six that was dropped the play before DT's tip toe TD if that corner catches the ball its a totally different game."

Woulda, shoulda, coulda -- that isn't a relative argument that someone "should have" caught an interception...he didn't.

Use other arguments to support your opinions, not ones that didn't happen.

Posted by: mattylight | December 9, 2009 4:03 PM | Report abuse

If the owner and his cousin are still doing the scouting, I guess this means Danny boy has no intention of listening to the fans and hiring a GM.

Posted by: JeanJak | December 9, 2009 4:04 PM | Report abuse

I don't think they should toss him in the street, but how much do you want the team to invest in a guy who can't win?

Posted by: RedSkinHead | December 9, 2009 3:59 PM | Report abuse

What 1 guy can win? None. If you don't understand the concept of team sports then we can't help you. You are as short sighted and simple minded as Snyderrato. You still think we're 1 player away. We're not. We have to fix the line and runnig game no matter hwo tales snaps. No one can win here until those are fixed.

Posted by: PAskinsfan17 | December 9, 2009 4:04 PM | Report abuse

Here it comes. Draft a QB first -- delaying far more important priorities, getting rid of the decent QB they already have, and assuring a few years development -- after which Snyder will undoubtedly become impatient and repeat the whole process, drafting a new QB every couple of years, thinking it'll change things.

In other words, we'll be the new Lions. Just when there's a glimmer of hope, let's just trash everything. Can't believe it.

Posted by: RIP-21 | December 9, 2009 4:05 PM | Report abuse

JC is good enough. It's a shame that he may not stick around DC long enough to prove how good is he really is.

But that's ok, A first round QB out of this years' draft is destined to go 16-0 and win the superbowl. Haha. That's believable.

People like to say that JC loses the game, but don't lie to yourselves; it's a lot more complicated than just one player or one play.

Posted by: AllThatSkins | December 9, 2009 4:07 PM | Report abuse

fools. The problem with this team has not been the quarterback. If they waste their 1st rounder on a quarterback gamble I'm done, I'll start wearing Ravens purple.

Posted by: fansince78 | December 9, 2009 4:07 PM | Report abuse

Luxury Boxes and things of this nature = unshared revenue = 100 percent goes to the team selling the box...only 1 team gets access to this money

Jersey sales = shared revenue = all 32 NFL teams share in this money = jersey sales/32= redskins share

Can we puh-leeze put the moronic idea that the Redskins are only interested in selling jersey's to bed now....I mean, its just galactically stupid to suggest it...

Posted by: BeantownGreg1 | December 9, 2009 3:56 PM
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In a significant move that could impact the flow of money to potential free agents and the competitive balance of teams, the NFL has notified the players' union that, effective next March, owners will pull the plug on the $100-million-per-year revenue-sharing program that has subsidized lower-revenue clubs, multiple sources said.

http://www.footballoutsiders.com/extra-points/2009/nfl-pulling-plug-revenue-sharing


Posted by: RedSkinHead | December 9, 2009 4:08 PM | Report abuse

rsh, thanks but that doesn't change the way that it works today....

in fact given his business acumen outside of footbal, why would snyder focus on jersey sales in any way shape or form?? Selling something that you only get a small percentage of?? Why would ANYONE for that matter focus on that??

Posted by: BeantownGreg1 | December 9, 2009 4:12 PM | Report abuse

"Ganther to start over Cartwright at RB"

mistamayor

We asked before to get some details about "Q" aka, Quinton Ganther and have been rebuffed.

Think about: dude is getting a chance to show his skills to a team searching for a sturdy, speedy back.

Ladell Betts might be gone.

Portis might be gone.

"Q" might be in the house starting with Rock 16 times next Fall for all we know.

Ganther might be for us what Ryan Grant or Derrick Ward was a couple for the Packers and Jints: a steady, cheap, speedy running back.

And just the thing this team needs.

And we've yet to get a thread about him.

Posted by: MistaMoe | December 9, 2009 4:12 PM | Report abuse

Here it comes. Draft a QB first -- delaying far more important priorities, getting rid of the decent QB they already have, and assuring a few years development -- after which Snyder will undoubtedly become impatient and repeat the whole process, drafting a new QB every couple of years, thinking it'll change things.

In other words, we'll be the new Lions. Just when there's a glimmer of hope, let's just trash everything. Can't believe it.

Posted by: RIP-21 | December 9, 2009 4:05 PM | Report abuse

Bingo. For anyone who wants the next Matt Ryan or Joe Flacco, consider....Matt Ryan and Joe Flacco. Both have hit the "sophomore slump" this season. Both of their teams are longshots to make the playoffs. Takes a while with new QB's -- so if we take one, get ready for another 3 years or so for them to develop.

Posted by: mattylight | December 9, 2009 4:13 PM | Report abuse

PEOPLE....... FORGET ABOUT THE DRAFT AND WHO TO PICK! THIS REPORT IS SUGGESTING THAT VINNY IS DOING A FINE JOB AND THAT HE'S BACK PRETENDING HE'S A GM MAKING THE PERSONEL DECISION WHEN REALLY SNYDER IS BEHIND IT ALL! After a season like this all the criticism, all the bashing all the fan dismay all the stadium no shows! Snyder is continuing on his do it his way approach. At the very least get rid of portis so we have some semblance of a team concept and bring in shannahan! then I'll have a glimmer of hope.

Posted by: sthai75 | December 9, 2009 4:14 PM | Report abuse

kicker beeps

Posted by: PortisPocketsStr8 | December 9, 2009 4:16 PM | Report abuse

Actually, Jason Campbell should leave as he has taken way too much crap for the failures of others. Watch him go to the Panthers or Raiders and become the player he could and should be here if only he had a line and an offense that suits his skills. JASON IS NOT A WEST COAST OFFENSE QB! PERIOD!! END OF DISCUSSION!! He is a vertical offense/power running game QB and for that you need a GOOD O-Line. Redskins should draft anyone under 330lbs. As for QBS to look at if you must, then once again the Redskins leadership shows that they are morons as anyone with eyeballs can plainly see that Jake Locker of Washington is THE best QB in college, but hopefully it won't come to that.

Posted by: Terrapinjoe56 | December 9, 2009 4:16 PM | Report abuse

I just can't believe how many fans think, similar to Snyder, that Campbell is the reason the Skins lose, and replacing him is the first step toward winning. Seriously, this is total delusion. How do you sit with your head that far up your butt?

Posted by: RIP-21 | December 9, 2009 4:16 PM | Report abuse

The only thing Cerrato should be scouting is another job.

Posted by: Dellis2 | December 9, 2009 4:17 PM | Report abuse

I don't think they should toss him in the street, but how much do you want the team to invest in a guy who can't win?

Posted by: RedSkinHead | December 9, 2009 3:59 PM | Report abuse

What 1 guy can win? None. If you don't understand the concept of team sports then we can't help you. You are as short sighted and simple minded as Snyderrato. You still think we're 1 player away. We're not. We have to fix the line and runnig game no matter hwo tales snaps. No one can win here until those are fixed.

Posted by: PAskinsfan17 | December 9, 2009 4:04 PM
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Jump off your high horse, there Lil' West Virginia. I have never said we are one player away. In agreement with you, I have even said I think we need to focus on the offensive line first before we even think about drafting a QB. What I have said is Campbell just isn't that good. If the team has to spend $3.0m to keep him, then, no thanks. There will be other, better options available by the time free agency ramps up. Heck, you don't even know who the coach is going to be next year and you think we should rush right out and re-sign Campbell? Would Shanahan, Holmgren or Weis even want Jason Campbell?

Posted by: RedSkinHead | December 9, 2009 4:19 PM | Report abuse

Re-posted due to typo.. sorry just too pissed to type straight

Actually, Jason Campbell should leave as he has taken way too much crap for the failures of others. Watch him go to the Panthers or Raiders and become the player he could and should be here if only he had a line and an offense that suits his skills. JASON IS NOT A WEST COAST OFFENSE QB! PERIOD!! END OF DISCUSSION!! He is a vertical offense/power running game QB and for that you need a GOOD O-Line. Redskins should NOT draft anyone under 330lbs. As for QBS to look at if you must, then once again the Redskins leadership shows that they are morons as anyone with eyeballs can plainly see that Jake Locker of Washington is THE best QB in college, but hopefully it won't come to that.

Posted by: Terrapinjoe56 | December 9, 2009 4:19 PM | Report abuse

Man, you guys are really running with this.

1) Vinny is still the GM or Executive VP of rimjobs or whatever the hell he is. He has to scout players until he's no longer in that job. It doesn't mean he's going to be doing it in the offseason, especially after we finish 3-13.

D) A Shanahan type big-name coach will want his own QB to mold and that is the most likely choice in the upcoming draft.

) Campbell will never reach his potential with this team. It would be in his best interest to go to Buffalo or Minnesota.

&) The Redskins will tender Campbell and trade him in the offseason. If he finishes the season strong, he could be worth a 3rd round pick in April, which can be used on an o-lineman.

Posted by: Original_etrod | December 9, 2009 4:21 PM | Report abuse

Aaron Rodgers this, Aaron Rodgers that...

Aaron Rodgers has beeen in the same offensive system since he canme in the league. Shoot, the Packers have been running the same offense for years which means the TEAM is very familiar with their system.
You guys act like AR running the offense in GB (the only ONE he had to learn) is akin to JC running our (multiple) offenses. As Ochocinco would say, 'child please!'.
Now I know the 'stop making excuses' crew will jump all over this but yall make excuses against JC when he plays well.
The grass is always greeener with the ownership and fickle fans.

Posted by: priceisright | December 9, 2009 4:29 PM | Report abuse

I think new QB is just the easy answer. You can just chalk it up to some intangible thing and not have to actually think about it. It's like blaming the devil for your crappy parenting. The rest of us acutally want to fix the team so we use a scientific approach.

We ask questions. What's wrong with the team?

Is it the play calling or is it the QB and receivers? We analyzed the playcalling and found it to be too predictable. You can go to NFL.com and read the play by play. (run run pass punt) We analyzed the plays and found them to be ineffective. They take too long to develop and the routes were not stretching the field. The plays were not counter-adjusting to defensive adjustments.

Solution was to strip Zorn of the play calling and have Sherm^2 redesign and call the plays.

Now we ask ourselves if it's the QB or the line? We analyzed our line. So far we know that our line averages less than 2.5 seconds of protection. The minimum amount for a line is around 2.7 seconds. We know that this indicates that we have a bad pass protection at the tackle position(ranked 26th in pass protection).

Solution-get new tackles

We also know that we can not run off left tackle or either end(ranked 22nd or 23rd) but can run between guard and center(ranked 10th and 5th). This indicates that we have poor run blocking at the tackle positions.

Soluton-We need new tackles.

We analyzed our QB and found that he is ranked 7th in completing his passes and he is ranked 12th in yards per attempt. He is doing his job. Solution-fix something else!!!

Posted by: PAskinsfan17 | December 9, 2009 4:30 PM | Report abuse

Who would have thought any differently of Lil Napoleon Snyder and Butt Munch Cerrato? Of course they want the big name quarterback even though the one we have has shown some signs of improving despite having an incredibly awful offensive line.

OUR FIRST NEED IS A COMPETENT GM.

OUR SECOND NEED IS A TALENTED AND YOUNG OFFENSIVE LINE.

Everything else is third level of need. I'm no real fan of Campbell, but he's taken hits and kept on going - he's been toughened up this year and has demonstrated a growing confidence in new receivers and is actually starting to make plays. He may not be THE ANSWER, but he is far better than most options we could pursue.

Spend the time rebuilding the offensive line and putting the defensive players in their TRUE spots, not ones where we NEED them to be. Then let's fill those holes of NEED and then move on.

Posted by: laserwizard | December 9, 2009 4:33 PM | Report abuse

Man, you guys are really running with this.

1) Vinny is still the GM or Executive VP of rimjobs or whatever the hell he is. He has to scout players until he's no longer in that job. It doesn't mean he's going to be doing it in the offseason, especially after we finish 3-13.

D) A Shanahan type big-name coach will want his own QB to mold and that is the most likely choice in the upcoming draft.

) Campbell will never reach his potential with this team. It would be in his best interest to go to Buffalo or Minnesota.

&) The Redskins will tender Campbell and trade him in the offseason. If he finishes the season strong, he could be worth a 3rd round pick in April, which can be used on an o-lineman.

Posted by: Original_etrod | December 9, 2009 4:21 PM
Dude I hope your 100% right in your assesment. I don't see any team trading for a Campbell after all that has transpired between management and him, shameful. as for Vinny, snyder is paying for him to personally fly to ND for a personal interview with Clausen with the intention of firing his ass after getting his professional opinion from him. One can only hope this is true. I do agree that Campbell is in the wrong system.

Posted by: sthai75 | December 9, 2009 4:34 PM | Report abuse

Danny wanted a little "mile high" action so he had to have somewhere to go. What better disguise that a scouting trip? The odds of winning the lottery are better than Vinny being fired.

Posted by: Keyskonnection | December 9, 2009 4:35 PM | Report abuse

This team cannot afford to use a high pick on a QB next year. You know what looks worse than Campbell running for his life? Clausen or McCoy running for their lives. The Skins' first two picks need to be o-linemen. Keep Campbell for another year and see if he works out. If not, look for the franchise guy in 2011.

Posted by: mhaslup1 | December 9, 2009 4:46 PM | Report abuse

Here is the complete "ND" solution to the Redskins problems---

Hire Charlie Weiss (Coach)
Draft Clausen (QB)
Draft Tate(WR)
Draft Olson (Center)
Draft Young (Offensive Tackle)

'cause the Irish have been so successful!!!

Long-Time "Disheartened Skins Fan"

Posted by: gpicks510 | December 9, 2009 4:48 PM | Report abuse

Hey that ND solution could be the ticket -- it sounds like something Vinny might come up with...no more bizarre than the "great" play-calling systems he devised or the lack of young O-line talent...shall I continue...please Dan fire Vinny and get someone who really knows football and then enjoy the success and bask in the glory that winning will bring!!!

Long-Time "Disheartened Skins Fan"

Posted by: gpicks510 | December 9, 2009 4:53 PM | Report abuse

I think RedSkinHead might be a closet Cowboys fan. He is against us keeping JC and also against tendering him enough to get anything back for him if he leaves. But he is for picking up some scrap QB to come learn a new system and throw away another year. If personal dislike of JC outweighs your desire to see the team do its best next year then go back to Texas.

Posted by: geotherm21 | December 9, 2009 5:02 PM | Report abuse

Campbell is not the worst quarterback in the league, but he looks the same today as he did when he started a couple years ago. We keep hearing that we need to wait for the improvement that never comes. He just needs better receivers or a bigger line or a better running back. When will the excuses end? Even Mark Brunell, who everyone said was awful had 23 TDs in the only 16 game season he had with the 'Skins. Soup doesn't even come close to that.

Keep him for another year if you must, but anyone who thinks he is a big time quarteback is kidding themselves.

Posted by: ggt546 | December 9, 2009 5:05 PM | Report abuse

I actually think this is a good move.

I am a huuuge Campbell supporter and would want him back. But let's consider the possibility of getting Clausen here.

I've tried to watch every one of Clausen's games this year, and I must say, I am very impressed by this young QB.

He played behind an atrocious line (sound familiar), had many injuries to key players at skill positions around him (also sound familiar), but yet, his numbers have improved year after year! And he's completing 68% of his passes!

He is extremely accurate, he reads defenses well as most of his passes aren't dump offs, but are in the mid range (10-20 yards) area, and he consistently hits receivers in stride and not afraid to "air it out" and actually completing it.

He has great tenacity. After being stuck behind a high-school offensive line for all 3 years at ND, he still has the gusto and the grit to keep fighting, keep improving, and keep competing. I think he would feel "right at home" with our porous o-line. But he is different from Jason in that the knock on Jason has been he has difficulty reading defenses, and adjusting the play, adjusting the protection before he snaps the ball. All these "pre-snap" reads are critical at the QB position. I think the ability to make "pre-snap" reads and adjust accordingly are what separates an "average, middle of the pack QB" from the elite "franchise qb."

Think about it for a minute, what makes Peyton, Brees, and Brady so good? Right after they snap the ball, it seems like they know exactly where to go with the ball. It's almost like they already know where they're throwing the ball before the snap...that's not the case with Jason. Jason has a strong arm, so he makes up some of his inability to make "pre-snap" reads, but nonetheless he is still limited.

Clausen has the ability and has shown the ability to make these "pre-snap" reads, thus I think he will be more successful than Jason.

Here's what I think will happen:
We draft Clausen, and we also tender Jason (in hopes of getting some compensation for him), if no other team claims him, we will sign jason to a 2-3 year contract. That way we will still start jason next year, and Clausen can learn from Jason and get take some time to learn the offense.

This is a WIN-WIN situation! 1) if jason leaves, we get compensated 2) if jason stays, we have a decent starting QB, and we also have someone to tutor Clausen...and we all know Jason will be great at that.

Then in the rest of the rounds and via FA, we'll draft Oline Oline Oline, and our other needs.

Posted by: Havemercyplz | December 9, 2009 5:08 PM | Report abuse

Aaron Rodgers this, Aaron Rodgers that...

F Aaron Rodgers

Posted by: jcnjcnj | December 9, 2009 5:09 PM | Report abuse

Clausen couldn't beat NAVY!!! FREAKIN NAVY!! WE TALKIN BOUT NAVY NOT USC BUT NAVY, NOT A REAL NCAA TEAM THAT CAN RECRIUT POOKEY AND RAY-RAY TO PLAY FOOTBALL BUT NAVY A SERVICE ACADEMY WITH DB'S THAT CAN'T COVER ME(i'm almost 60) AND HE DIDN'T BEAT EM THE NAVAL ACADEMY FOR GOD'S SAKE!!! AND COLT MCCOY LOOKED LIKE SH#T ON SATURDAY AND YOU WANT HIM TO DO WHAT HERE RUN FOR HIS LIFE? AND ALL OF YOU THAT THINK JOE FLACCO IS BETTER THAN JC THINK AGAIN!

Posted by: dargregmag | December 9, 2009 2:34 PM | Report abuse

This comment had me in tears......tooo funny

Posted by: VicDamone | December 9, 2009 5:17 PM | Report abuse

Ladies and Gentleman this offically confirms our worst possible nightmare. Cerrato will be back next year... Why would he be scouting QB's for next season if he was lame duck...

Posted by: ElBigChroizo

That was my first reaction. But, upon further reflection if Cerrato hasn't been fired wouldn't Snyder have to go through the motions? That's what I'm hoping for anyhow. Because if you're right yeah it is the worst news I've heard all season.

The reason I'm holding out hope is because I can't grasp how some one who has failed so badly can retain his job. Cerrato has had years to turn this around and it keeps getting worse. How does he retain his job?

Posted by: BetterOffWithFedorov | December 9, 2009 5:30 PM | Report abuse

im done as a skins fan if i see jimmy clausen in a burgundy and gold uniform , he accomplished nothing a notre dame. i dont care people say he was in a pro offense with wiess . I see him as a punk and nothing but a 3 rd string guy. Campbell is 5 times better then this guy. This is a sign that Synder is still not understanding what really needs to be fixed. Snyder wants a gun slinger not happening the next Brett Favre isnt around. Reason Keep Campbell is look what happen 10 years ago. Brad johnson took us to the playoff and a really legit shoot at a Super Bowl. The next year Brad got rid of for Jeff George. the next year Brad lead and managed the Tampa Bay to the Super Bowl. Campbell with a new team can do it as well.

Posted by: cjdwolfpack | December 9, 2009 5:48 PM | Report abuse

im done as a skins fan if i see jimmy clausen in a burgundy and gold uniform , he accomplished nothing a notre dame. i dont care people say he was in a pro offense with wiess . I see him as a punk and nothing but a 3 rd string guy. Campbell is 5 times better then this guy. This is a sign that Synder is still not understanding what really needs to be fixed. Snyder wants a gun slinger not happening the next Brett Favre isnt around. Reason Keep Campbell is look what happen 10 years ago. Brad johnson took us to the playoff and a really legit shoot at a Super Bowl. The next year Brad got rid of for Jeff George. the next year Brad lead and managed the Tampa Bay to the Super Bowl. Campbell with a new team can do it as well.

Posted by: cjdwolfpack | December 9, 2009 5:48 PM | Report abuse

MY SOURCES SAY THIS IS A LIE AND ONLY A REPORT TO CAUSE A DISTRACTION TO A QB WHO IS HOT.

Posted by: mastdark81 | December 9, 2009 7:26 PM | Report abuse

"The belief among some at Redskins Park is that Snyder and Cerrato plan to use the team's first draft pick this year in their quest to find the Redskins' next franchise quarterback.."

Stupid. Just plain stupid.

And this also signals Ceratto will be back next year.

Should we be surprised?

Well, looks like the Redskins will be losing next year also.

- Ray

Posted by: rmcazz | December 9, 2009 7:31 PM | Report abuse

MY SOURCES SAY THIS IS A LIE AND ONLY A REPORT TO CAUSE A DISTRACTION TO A QB WHO IS HOT.

Posted by: mastdark81 | December 9, 2009 7:31 PM | Report abuse

"Daggar, its that circle jerk love that keeps Cerrato around."

Sad to say I was thiking the very same thing.

He must give the best....(insert sexual reference here).

- Ray

Posted by: rmcazz | December 9, 2009 7:34 PM | Report abuse

Take a QB with the first pick. Maybe the Skins end up like the Chargers did a few years ago when they had Brees and Rivers on the roster together. Trade Cooley for some picks and use the draft and free agency to fix the O line and fill holes in the D. Even the worst teams can turn things around in a single season.

Posted by: saqster | December 9, 2009 8:00 PM | Report abuse

The Redskins will be lucky to draft Clausen. I have been a fan of him all season. As someone pointed out above, Clausen is smart and can make the reads. He wasn't rated the #1 overall player in the Rivals rankings for nothing. He had a cannon of an arm and was impressive in all the top QB camps. He can make all the throws. He comes from a football family and has had older brothers he learned from that played the position. This kid was born and bred to be a QB.

I still think Campbell could go somewhere and be successful, but it is not going to be here. Since Zorn and Campbell have been here I have never seen the 2 minute offense run efficiently, consistently, ever.

Draft Clausen, take a Tackle in the 2nd round, see ya in 2010.

Posted by: dominic10464 | December 9, 2009 8:01 PM | Report abuse

I'm trying to figure out how you could draft Colt McCoy ahead of Jimmy Clausen.

Nope, I can't do it.

Posted by: Samson151 | December 9, 2009 8:02 PM | Report abuse

No one has given any merit to my Notre Dame idea - see previous post...just came across this article about a possible Weiss/Clausen reunion in Washington here is the post:

Charlie Weis and Jimmy Clausen to Reunite with Redskins?
By Chuck Carroll
Football News Now Staff Writer
December 7, 2009

Jimmy Clausen and Charlie Weis
Former Notre Dame coach Charlie Weis and QB Jimmy Clausen could find themselves together again with the Washington Redskins next season.

It’s a possibility.

Monday morning on The Sports Junkies radio show on 106.7 The Fan in Washington, DC, Redskins beat report Chris Russell stated that Charlie Weis was a possibility to come to Washington next season.

Given the fact that Redskins GM Vinny Cerrato has a soft spot for Notre Dame, the move would make sense.

It was also reported that the Redskins – who in all likelihood will have a top 5 draft pick in April – are seriously interested in Jimmy Clausen who announced that he will skip his senior season and declare himself eligible for the NFL draft on Monday.

There is no denying that the pair have a special bond. In fact, despite being heavily recruited by USC, Clausen chose to attend Notre Dame simply because of Weis’ NFL coaching experience.

Although the Irish had a lackluster 6-6 season, Clausen had a banner year, passing for 3,722 yards, 28 touchdowns and only four interceptions.

Other teams interested in Clausen’s services include the St. Louis Rams and Cleveland Browns who have his predecessor Brady Quinn under center at the moment.

A lot of the reunion is contingent on whether or not Cerrato is retained by the Redskins next season. There is speculation that he and owner Daniel Snyder are on the outs.

http://www.footballnewsnow.com/2009/could-charlie-weis-and-jimmy-clausen-reunite-with-redskins/.

Posted by: gpicks510 | December 9, 2009 8:07 PM | Report abuse

No one has given any merit to my Notre Dame idea - see previous post...just came across this article about a possible Weiss/Clausen reunion in Washington here is the post:

Charlie Weis and Jimmy Clausen to Reunite with Redskins?
By Chuck Carroll
Football News Now Staff Writer
December 7, 2009

Jimmy Clausen and Charlie Weis
Former Notre Dame coach Charlie Weis and QB Jimmy Clausen could find themselves together again with the Washington Redskins next season.

It’s a possibility.

Monday morning on The Sports Junkies radio show on 106.7 The Fan in Washington, DC, Redskins beat report Chris Russell stated that Charlie Weis was a possibility to come to Washington next season.

Given the fact that Redskins GM Vinny Cerrato has a soft spot for Notre Dame, the move would make sense.

It was also reported that the Redskins – who in all likelihood will have a top 5 draft pick in April – are seriously interested in Jimmy Clausen who announced that he will skip his senior season and declare himself eligible for the NFL draft on Monday.

There is no denying that the pair have a special bond. In fact, despite being heavily recruited by USC, Clausen chose to attend Notre Dame simply because of Weis’ NFL coaching experience.

Although the Irish had a lackluster 6-6 season, Clausen had a banner year, passing for 3,722 yards, 28 touchdowns and only four interceptions.

Other teams interested in Clausen’s services include the St. Louis Rams and Cleveland Browns who have his predecessor Brady Quinn under center at the moment.

A lot of the reunion is contingent on whether or not Cerrato is retained by the Redskins next season. There is speculation that he and owner Daniel Snyder are on the outs.

http://www.footballnewsnow.com/2009/could-charlie-weis-and-jimmy-clausen-reunite-with-redskins/.

Posted by: gpicks510 | December 9, 2009 8:07 PM | Report abuse

No one has given any merit to my Notre Dame idea - see previous post...just came across this article about a possible Weiss/Clausen reunion in Washington here is the post:

Charlie Weis and Jimmy Clausen to Reunite with Redskins?
By Chuck Carroll
Football News Now Staff Writer
December 7, 2009

Jimmy Clausen and Charlie Weis
Former Notre Dame coach Charlie Weis and QB Jimmy Clausen could find themselves together again with the Washington Redskins next season.

It’s a possibility.

Monday morning on The Sports Junkies radio show on 106.7 The Fan in Washington, DC, Redskins beat report Chris Russell stated that Charlie Weis was a possibility to come to Washington next season.

Given the fact that Redskins GM Vinny Cerrato has a soft spot for Notre Dame, the move would make sense.

It was also reported that the Redskins – who in all likelihood will have a top 5 draft pick in April – are seriously interested in Jimmy Clausen who announced that he will skip his senior season and declare himself eligible for the NFL draft on Monday.

There is no denying that the pair have a special bond. In fact, despite being heavily recruited by USC, Clausen chose to attend Notre Dame simply because of Weis’ NFL coaching experience.

Although the Irish had a lackluster 6-6 season, Clausen had a banner year, passing for 3,722 yards, 28 touchdowns and only four interceptions.

Other teams interested in Clausen’s services include the St. Louis Rams and Cleveland Browns who have his predecessor Brady Quinn under center at the moment.

A lot of the reunion is contingent on whether or not Cerrato is retained by the Redskins next season. There is speculation that he and owner Daniel Snyder are on the outs.

http://www.footballnewsnow.com/2009/could-charlie-weis-and-jimmy-clausen-reunite-with-redskins/.

Posted by: gpicks510 | December 9, 2009 8:08 PM | Report abuse

Nah. Jason, I do not believe we could be so stupid. Spending our first round on a QB would be tragic for the 'Skins. We need to protect the QB. I think after the past few years of scrambling, Jason would be a pro-bowler if we give him an O-line. Someone please tell me this article is a spoof.

Vinny? Danny? You must be more in touch with your team than this.

Posted by: jighazelton | December 9, 2009 8:11 PM | Report abuse

Nah. Jason, I do not believe we could be so stupid. Spending our first round on a QB would be tragic for the 'Skins. We need to protect the QB. I think after the past few years of scrambling, Jason would be a pro-bowler if we give him an O-line. Someone please tell me this article is a spoof.

Vinny? Danny? You must be more in touch with your team than this.

Posted by: jighazelton | December 9, 2009 8:11 PM | Report abuse

Jason Reid...you are lying to me, man. Give JC an O-line and he is a pro-bowler.

You can't tell me that Danny and Vinnie are this out of touch with the team's needs. They'd be better off drafting a better trainer so people stay healthy.

Please tell me this article is a spoof.

Posted by: jighazelton | December 9, 2009 8:16 PM | Report abuse

Jason Reid...you are lying to me, man. Give JC an O-line and he is a pro-bowler.

You can't tell me that Danny and Vinnie are this out of touch with the team's needs. They'd be better off drafting a better trainer so people stay healthy.

Please tell me this article is a spoof.

Posted by: jighazelton | December 9, 2009 8:16 PM | Report abuse

Get a real GM , drafting either of these quarterbacks with a first round pick is a dam mistake..Build the offensive line, linebacker core and get a real free safety..This quarterback nonsense is ridiculous

Posted by: TheBeatDontStop | December 9, 2009 8:37 PM | Report abuse

Ever stop to think this is smoke and mirrors? To wit, perhaps Dumb & Dumber are only doing this to encourage those drafting behind them, who are in the market for a QB, to trade up with us.

Probable? No.

Possible. Ye...er...Maybe.

Posted by: eanderson4 | December 9, 2009 9:22 PM | Report abuse

YES YES YES
NOTHING WILL CHANGE !!!!
DANNY AND VINNY WILL RULE FOR EVER !!!


DANNY BOY RULES !!

NEXT YEAR WILL BE THE YEAR WE WIN IT ALL !!

Posted by: dannyboyrules | December 9, 2009 9:23 PM | Report abuse

We should not be looking or even entertaining a QB until they address the O-line first! And anybody from ND, much less coached by Weiss, is not worth the hassel. The last decent QB to make it to the pros from that program was Steve Beuerlein back in '86.

Posted by: clark202 | December 9, 2009 10:04 PM | Report abuse

Man some things never change ,theirs so much that goes into picking a QB for your team. You need a real general manager putting all the pieces together not this kinds bs

Posted by: thomasuras | December 9, 2009 10:41 PM | Report abuse

Man some things never change ,theirs so much that goes into picking a QB for your team. You need a real general manager putting all the pieces together not this kinds bs

Posted by: thomasuras | December 9, 2009 10:41 PM | Report abuse

Man some things never change ,theirs so much that goes into picking a QB for your team. You need a real general manager putting all the pieces together not this kinds bs

Posted by: thomasuras | December 9, 2009 10:41 PM | Report abuse

Man some things never change ,theirs so much that goes into picking a QB for your team. You need a real general manager putting all the pieces together not this kinds bs

Posted by: thomasuras | December 9, 2009 10:41 PM | Report abuse

It's almost as if...

they'll never learn.

I hate first round QBs, by the way. They stink, they're expensive, and they waste a draft pick that could have been used on the O Line.

But what if we had Colt McCoy and Colt Brennan?

That would be pretty cool. Aww, what the heck, go ahead!

It's just the Redskins!

Posted by: Thinker_ | December 9, 2009 11:52 PM | Report abuse

It baffles me to think they are still looking a new QBs and not at the offensive line for a first pick! Campbell is statistically having a better year behind a makeshift line, and they're still looking to replace him? When will our front office learn how to build a team!

Regardless of whether or not they feel Campbell is the man, they should not draft a QB first! Built a team from the line of scrimmage outward!! Pick the big uglies first, and either keep Campbell, or start Colt, pick up a free agent, whatever. But don't keep picking the DIVAS, pick a guy that will protect your QB (whoever that may be)!!!!

UGGGG! I hope they were actually scouting linemen, not QBS. . . hoping that there was some linemen there that they were looking at, but maybe the press just wanted to play it out as the same old stuff..

WWC&BD ..
(What would Cooke and Bethard do)

Posted by: mrchaotic247 | December 10, 2009 12:02 AM | Report abuse

Being a huge Texas fan along with being a huge Campbell fan, I certainly hope that the Skins don't draft McCoy. I would hate to see him get messed up and have his career ruined before it gets started good in the NFL. I hope that once the season is over, Campbell does not resign with the Skins for his own good, they have started the Arizona Cardinal- Jake Plummer rule of picking a good QB in the draft but not giving him an oline to help, allow him to get beat up Sunday after Sunday by defenses then draft someone else and keep the process going. Likewise I hope that Clausen or McCoy if they are drafted by the Skins pull the Eli Manning rule, refuse to go and waite a year for the next draft forcing them (Skns)to trade away their rights. Now if they (Skins) should draft,trade, or through free agency get some good olinemen then I hope Jason stays and there want be a need to draft a QB, but I bet they (Dan and Vinny) go after a QB in the first round of the draft. But I'm also hoping that Danny and Vinny get smart like Arizona did after a few years and draft olinemen to help thier QB, bad thing is it was way to late to help Plummer who had been beat down by opposing defenses way to much by that time and could not slavage his career.

Posted by: rmilton | December 10, 2009 12:07 AM | Report abuse

Either McCoy or Clausen would be a step in the fight direction but we need OL FIRST!

Posted by: ElYeah | December 10, 2009 1:01 AM | Report abuse

I guess this answers 3 questions i have...no vinny will not leave at the end of the season...no, we will not draft any OL and we have to go through this terribleness again...and no, we will never be good again

Posted by: kickass10101 | December 10, 2009 7:31 AM | Report abuse

I've heard it said by NFl coaches that it takes until the third year for a QB to master a west coast style offense. This is the end of his second season in the system and Campbell is playing the best football of his career behind an O line of understudies and the plan to improve the team is to get rid of him?

Posted by: kevin_rigsby19 | December 10, 2009 7:53 AM | Report abuse


How appropriate: Snyder and Cerrato together looking for ways to continue the downslide. When will THEY LOOK IN THE MIRROR?

If I was Jason I would be tickled to be off this disfuntional team.

Posted by: scottpapex | December 10, 2009 8:06 AM | Report abuse

IF CERRATO IS BACK TO EVEN MAKE THIS DECISION I WILL CANCEL MY SUNDAY TICKET NEXT YEAR. I LIVE IN CHARLOTTE AND LOVE THE SKINS, BUT WE ARE OFFICIALLY THE NEW OAKLAND RAIDERS WITH A MUCH YOUNGER AL DAVIS. SCREW VINNY.

Posted by: HogInCharlotte | December 10, 2009 9:02 AM | Report abuse

The New Era begins officially from the Gibbs situation and we need to bring in a new quarterback and start from scratch. When we hired Zorn as head coach I still felt this was a Gibbs run team with all of his coaches still on the staff. We still kept the run game the same which is not the west coast running scheme. Zorn was set up to fail from the start. When we hire Shanahan you will finally see the New Era of Redskins football. "Welcome Jimmy Clausen as your new Quarterback."

Posted by: Idealnupe | December 10, 2009 9:30 AM | Report abuse

"just the fact that the evil midget, Dan Snyder, and his hopelessly incompetent puppet, Vinny Cerrato are on the road scouting is sickening.

How many NFL teams have the owners "scouting" players?"

BEST POST OF THE DAY!

Posted by: bestmick1 | December 10, 2009 9:35 AM | Report abuse

I'd offer Campbel the offer that would give us a 1 and 3 pick because I believe a team with the right type of offense would make that deal, and we can use the picks.

If we lose Campbel, why not start Brennan? Especially if we concentrate on building the best O-Line in the East. Any decent QB and RB will look good with a great OL.

BUT WE MUST GET A REAL GM AND HAVE SNYNDER TURN IT ALL OVER TO HIM. THAT NEEDS TO BE REPEATED ALONG WITH ANY OFF-SEASON COMMENTS EVERY TIME THE SUBJECT COMES UP!

Posted by: Gibbs4Pres | December 10, 2009 10:00 AM | Report abuse

The Saints game proved that Campbell and the receivers have come a long way. I watched Tebow and McCoy last week and was singularly unimpressed. It is idiocy to throw away what has finally jelled and start over. Draft a lineman and a running back. Keep Zorn, if not as head coach, at least as OC. Best solution: get Holmgren as HC or GM. He wouldn't blow up the offense. Second best: get a good defensive-oriented HC and retain Zorn as OC.

Posted by: richardshaker | December 10, 2009 11:34 AM | Report abuse

Those two butt-darts are out scouting QBs?

Any chance there's a little-known NFL bylaw that allows fans to have their team management declared mentally incompetent?

The Skins should draft 3 or 4 linemen. Keep Soup or sign a veteran QB who can either (A) run for his life or (B) take a lot of hits. Suffer through the inevitable growing pains of a young OL. Then draft your golden boy QB in 2011.

It sucks, but 3-5 years from now this team might be competitive. But the Danny and Vinny way? It's got disaster written all over it.

Posted by: diesel_skins_ | December 10, 2009 11:34 AM | Report abuse

SUH, SUH, SUH!! We need draft Suh from Nebraska, number one, then start addressing the offensive line. This is not Rhodes Scholarship work here. Snyder and Cerrato are fools.

Posted by: honor82dc | December 10, 2009 1:21 PM | Report abuse

Suh will be gone at #1 or #2 and the skins will win two more games anyway, oak and one of the home games left.

RUSSELL OKUNG PLEASE!!!!!!!!!!!!

Campbell and zorn for one more year, (i know its a long shot). okung and a center or RT in the second (prob center) sign a decent FA RT if you don't draft one and live BWM at guard and you might MIGHT have something!!!

lop off samuels, r thomas, ARE, Griffin, smoot, and the team is suddenly young!!

Posted by: drewkinnear | December 10, 2009 1:41 PM | Report abuse

Here we go agian after the glamor and glitz. Not actually looking to improve the team.
How to improve the Redskins:
1. Fire Cerato
2. Butt out of personnel decisions
3. Hire a good GM that knows talent and let him make the decisions (see 2)
4. Get an offensive line
5. Do not draft a QB with a round higher than 4th
6. Let the coach coach
7. Pass on high priced has beens
8. Don't sign free agent just because he is a big name, ask does he fit into our organization

Posted by: goskins0 | December 10, 2009 2:08 PM | Report abuse

Like either one of them is qualified to judge football talent........ They don't get it and they never will!!!!!!!!!!

Posted by: RealConservative | December 10, 2009 2:53 PM | Report abuse

Here should be the draft order

RD 1 O line
Rd 2 O line
Rd 3 O line
Rd 4 O line
Rd 5 O line
Rd 6 O line
Rd 7 O line

Snyder do you understand? Or trade down and add more O line.

Posted by: dganderson13 | December 10, 2009 4:07 PM | Report abuse

Here we go agian after the glamor and glitz. Not actually looking to improve the team.
How to improve the Redskins:
1. Fire Cerato
2. Butt out of personnel decisions
3. Hire a good GM that knows talent and let him make the decisions (see 2)
4. Get an offensive line
5. Do not draft a QB with a round higher than 4th
6. Let the coach coach
7. Pass on high priced has beens
8. Don't sign free agent just because he is a big name, ask does he fit into our organization

Posted by: goskins0 | December 10, 2009 2:08 PM | Report abuse
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Yeah, Orakpo was nothing but a sexy pick!!! You sure nailed that one!!!
Which "has been" FA are you talking about?? Just curious.
Oh, and which high priced FA did the Skins recently sign that didn't fit into the system?? Just curious again!!
And could you give me the list of 4th round QB's (or lower rounds) that are starting and making a difference in the league?? Then compare that to the first three rounds!! This isn't WR or RB!!

Posted by: dkidwell61 | December 10, 2009 4:27 PM | Report abuse

WE NEED TO KEEP CAMPBELL!

He's a fantastic QB for a rebuilding team, which is what we are. He'd go a great job for us while we rebuild the O-line.

That said, if I were him I'd get out of Washington as fast as possible.

Posted by: lordtwang | December 10, 2009 5:10 PM | Report abuse

@ dkidwell61 - Dan Snyder, nice to meet you!!!!

Posted by: The_Spear | December 10, 2009 5:20 PM | Report abuse

@ dkidwell61 - Dan Snyder, nice to meet you!!!!

Posted by: The_Spear | December 10, 2009 5:20 PM | Report abuse
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Guess you didn't have an answer either!! Then again, no guessing to it!!

Posted by: dkidwell61 | December 10, 2009 5:24 PM | Report abuse

See what I mean?

See why you can't trust these morons?

Just when the furor was dying down, headeygo with this BS.

That Ravens' Purple looking better and better...at least they have the FO/Ownership in place to do what is necessary, recent losses aside.

Posted by: kahlua87 | December 10, 2009 5:27 PM | Report abuse

Don't Fire Campbell. He's been great this year despite all our team's shortcomings... Get a line, get a new RB, don't focus on QB, such a bad pick idea.

Posted by: DCXNTX | December 10, 2009 5:30 PM | Report abuse

Don't Fire Campbell. He's been great this year despite all our team's shortcomings... Get a line, get a new RB, don't focus on QB, such a bad pick idea.

Posted by: DCXNTX | December 10, 2009 5:30 PM | Report abuse

It's hard to believe how twisted some of your panties have gotten over this story!! Pathetic really!!!
Keep in mind that draft position is far from determined and that players will move up and down the draft board as underclassmen declare and after the combine and workouts.
Even after the season, once draft position has been established, the "experts" will change their draft boards on a steady basis since the dynamics of the NFL draft are so volatile. And that's before teams start playing liars poker amongst themselves.
RELAX FOLKS!!

Posted by: dkidwell61 | December 10, 2009 5:52 PM | Report abuse

If this means Dan is keeping that lap dog Vinny Cerrato another year I'm rooting for another team... Keep JC for now and spend the entire draft on linemen... This crap is getting so old...

Posted by: Spinaltapxx | December 10, 2009 6:09 PM | Report abuse

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