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McNabb on Campbell: 'No one wants to be benched'

Philadelphia Eagles quarterback Donovan McNabb has been among Jason Campbell's mentors since Campbell entered the league in 2005.

During difficult times, of which Campbell has experienced plenty with the Redskins, he often has reached out to McNabb for advice and guidance. Campbell and McNabb have had many discussions about events this season, including Campbell having been benched for the first time in his NFL career after halftime in the Week 6 loss to the Kansas City Chiefs.

"What we discussed kinda is just between the both of us, but no one wants to be benched," McNabb said today in a conference call with reporters who cover the Redskins. "No one wants to be benched when you're really just not the full problem. There's a lot of things that's going on and a lot of things that can honestly be cleaned up, but I think he handled it well. He did a great job of standing up, chin high, and really just staying focused on his job."

McNabb has encouraged Campbell to focus on doing his job as well as he can because that's the best approach, McNabb said.

"In this particular situation for him it's just, after the benching, what you can control. The focus for him has to be just one game at a time, and not worry about what will happen at the end. One thing that he can do is just continue to put good football play and great focus in on film, and if a decision has to be made, make it hard on 'em."

It's all about remaining confident, McNabb said.

"Some people can take it in a way that the next mistake they make they'll get benched again," McNabb said. "Some can approach it in a way that, 'Hey, I'm just going to go out here and have fun, sling the ball around, put the ball in position for these guys to make plays and just do my job. ' "

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Campbell said that McNabb and Vick wanted to have a long talk with him.

I wonder what about.

Posted by: RedDMV | November 25, 2009 1:17 PM | Report abuse

Im getting more and more care-LESS about reading these blog post... I wonder is that how the skins practices feel?

Posted by: cocodc1 | November 25, 2009 1:19 PM | Report abuse

I wonder if Reid has helped to mentor Zorn.

"Hold your chin up. Just because they brought in a new set of eyes, that doesn't mean they won't let you call your own plays."

"Oh. Well, just because you're not calling plays, that doesn't mean they still won't have you back next year."

Posted by: League-Source | November 25, 2009 1:20 PM | Report abuse

I imagine McNabb's advice includes "don't worry about throwing accurately. I constantly miss the broad side of barns, and look where it's gotten me."

Posted by: daggar | November 25, 2009 1:20 PM | Report abuse

I know I feel better our QB is taking career advice from McNabb.

Posted by: peterandmeredith | November 25, 2009 1:22 PM | Report abuse

Bean,

You probably couldn't click through to the Miami Herald article, but one of the things they said was

"The move makes some sense when considering the past two years of decision-making: The Dolphins, under the current regime, have been an organization that doesn't delay the inevitable when it is financially sound to act.

Roth, for instance, is scheduled to become a free agent after this season. If the Dolphins did not expect to sign him to a new contract -- and they also were not getting an adequate performance from him -- the team would rather begin developing and evaluating players who have potential to fit into a long-term plan."

This is sort of the opposite of what we're seeing here in Washington with the team holding roster spots open for injured veterans when they ought to be taking a look at every guy on every practice team in the league. So Roth would make sense for the Redskins in place of Wynn -- IF Roth wants to play DE in a 4-3.

Posted by: League-Source | November 25, 2009 1:22 PM | Report abuse

I know I feel better our QB is taking career advice from McNabb.

Posted by: peterandmeredith | November 25, 2009 1:22 PM

He's probably getting his best career advice from Collins. "Look at me. I've been in the league a thousand years. You'll love it at backup."

Posted by: League-Source | November 25, 2009 1:23 PM | Report abuse

'Hey, I'm just going to go out here and have fun, sling the ball around, put the ball in position for these guys to make plays and just do my job. ' "

Sling the ball around? LOL. I haven't seen JC sling the ball around in a loonngg time. Check downs and overthrows are his forte.

Posted by: ga8085 | November 25, 2009 1:25 PM | Report abuse

Over the last 10 years I would take McNabb over more than half of the starting QBs in the NFL.

Way more than half.

He's a winner. Period.

Posted by: RedDMV | November 25, 2009 1:26 PM | Report abuse

ls, yeah, I don't get it, get Roth in here, because wynn, and daniels are likely gone after this year...young, talented and possibly cheap...whats not to like.....

red, agreed, on mcnuggets, he gets a bad rap, but he's been winning for a LONG time in philly...I'd really hate to have that success in DC...yuck...

Posted by: BeantownGreg1 | November 25, 2009 1:30 PM | Report abuse

McNabb has been benched enough to know how it feels but JC should not look to McNabb as a mentor. McNabb is inconsistent and so is JC. Think about it!

Posted by: ladyredskins | November 25, 2009 1:30 PM | Report abuse

McNabb is inconsistent and so is JC. Think about it!

Posted by: ladyredskins | November 25, 2009 1:30 PM

McNabb and JC are both consistent in what counts most: McNabb's been a consistent winner (on a team with no run game and weak receivers) and JC a consistent loser.

Posted by: League-Source | November 25, 2009 1:33 PM | Report abuse

Over the last 10 years I would take McNabb over more than half of the starting QBs in the NFL.

Way more than half.

He's a winner. Period.

Posted by: RedDMV | November 25, 2009 1:26 PM

Heck yeah. Didn't he lead [F] Philly to, like, 12 NFC title games in a row earlier this decade? Never understood the bad rap he gets. If anything, Reid should get the bad rap for calling 55 passes versus 12 runs half the time**.

**By half the time, I'm saying it sure looks like they abandon the run a lot, but I don't have concrete proof, aka a link, to prove this.

Posted by: 4-12 | November 25, 2009 1:35 PM | Report abuse

lady, mcnabb wins....period...not much else matters, sure he's erratic at times but in the end, wins are all that matters, winning makes a lot of sins go away. Look at this past weekend, Romo was statistically outplayed by JC all game long, except for at the end, and in the W-L column....

Posted by: BeantownGreg1 | November 25, 2009 1:35 PM | Report abuse

Reid and mcNabb the most prolific coach QB combo in the history of the NFL, I hope danny boy is taking notes

Get a friggin system, danny. One that works in the NFL

Posted by: pabrian2003 | November 25, 2009 1:36 PM | Report abuse

FF Update

Wow and Wow again. Turn Wow upside down and it becomes Mom. Ironic, as this week's ride in the Hamsters league had at least a few teams screaming for Mom.

Zornskins (7-4) overcame Ham Stweengs (4-7) in a tight game, 99-91. 20 points from Sidney Rice and a surprising 16 from the Charger defense keyed the win. In the loss, Stweengs had 5 players in double digits.

Suzanne's Trippin Billies (8-3) continued to roll, with a win over Alpa Chino (3-8). Strong performances from Kevin Smith, Hines Ward and the Pats defense led a balanced effort for the Billies. With the 118-70 win, not only did the Billies clinch a playoff appearance, but the Billies have been in 1st place every week this entire season. In part, it is because the Billies are the second highest scoring team in the league. In part, it is because the Billies opponents have produced the 3rd lowest 'points against' total.

Stump's Copro (6-5) team leads the league in 'points for', but has the highest 'points against' total ... and the most misfortune. Copro's expected shootout took place vs 4th's Realskins (7-4), with the Realskins winning, 134-99. The game snapped CoPro's 3 game win streak. Ricky Williams and Calvin Johnson combined for 59 points for Realskins. Of note, Copro has won every game in which he has scored 100 or more points, and lost every game when scoring 99 or less. Tough luck, as only 3 teams in the entire league even average 90 points per game.

The closest game was also a high scoring affair. cL's F Bombers (6-5) vying for a playoff spot, came from behind in dramatic fashion, as desean jackson's big second half on Sunday night proved just enough to fend of the Koolaid Kids (3-8), 100-96. Wes Welker had 21 and Ryan Grant had 20 for the Kids.

Dealer (6-5) enhanced his playoff hopes with a 92-43 win over Butz (2-9). Terrell Owens' 29 points led Dealer.

My Cal Salmon (8-3) team had 22 point efforts from former teammates Brett Favre and Greg Jennings in a 106-52 win over the injury devastated E Funk All Stars (6-5). While the Salmon are 3rd in total points scored, they are also the most fortunate, having the fewest 'points against' of any team.

The playoff situation is coming into focus. 6 teams make it and the top 2 get a first round bye. The Billies and Salmon, tied for the lead, are in strong positions to get the byes, as both teams need only 1 win in the final 2 games to get it done. Realskins and Zornskins are tied for 3rd place at 7-4, very close to clinching a playoff spot. Of note, the top 4 teams are also the 4 teams with the fewest points scored against them. Copro, F Bombers, Dealer and E Funk are all 6-5. CoPro has the edge, since total points scored is a tiebreaker.

Among the matchups with two teams in the playoff mix next week, Copro and E Funk, both at 6-5 go at it, while the 8-3 Billies take on the 7-4 Realskins.

Posted by: zcezcest1 | November 25, 2009 1:37 PM | Report abuse

I think Mcnabb and JC have a lot in common, both of them should have a sleep over and talk about boys, gosip and what its like to have all the potential in the world and never living up to it, while blaming everyone else for their problems.

Posted by: redskin8128 | November 25, 2009 1:37 PM | Report abuse

Over in the Peeps league, life at the top was, as always, challenging.

In a battle of two teams tied for the league lead, my Futaleufu Swimmers (8-3) took on the Houston Buffaloes (7-4). Going into Monday night, the Buffaloes held a 3 point lead, which wasn't likely to stand up to the Futa's Chris Johnson. It didn't, and the Swimmers won, 112-99.

Also at the top at the start of the week, the Jackalopes (7-4) took on the East Coast Shaft (5-6). The Shaft led by 35 points going into Monday night, though the Jackalopes had Matt Schaub and Kevin Walter going in the comeback attempt. Not enough. ECS pulled the upset, 77-63. Unfortunately for the Jackalopes, they chose this week to bench Terrell Owens, whose 29 points went unused. Big Ben led the Shaft with 21 points.

Alex's Zombie Hord (6-5) edged closer to the playoffs with a 113-90 victory over Nate. Alex used a balanced attack, with 5 players scoring between 17 and 20 points.

4-12 (4-7) and the Steers (4-7) went at it, with Monday night holding the key to this one as well. 4-12, trying to keep his playoff hopes alive, led by 15. 4-12, however, had Andre Johnson. With under a minute to go, the Steers still led by 2. But the Texans didn't throw it to Johnson in the final drive and the Steers claimed the win, 96-94.

Future Winners (5-6) fell to Redcoat's Fins (7-4) by a 110-100 final. Future had traded Brady and Fitzgerald for Collie, Heath Miller and Aaron Rodgers. On Sunday, that trade paid off ... or would have If only he had played all 3 guys. He left Heath Miller on the bench. Instead of Miller's 15, he got just 2 from Fred Davis. The heartbreak ...

Tampa, the other Florida-esque team in this league, joined Fins and the group at 7-4, with a 105-67 win over the South Hill Skulls. Tampa's WRs did the damage, with Calvin Johnson and Sidney Rice both having 20+ point efforts.

The playoff picture is clearing up with 2 games left. At 8-3, the Futaleufu Swimmers are alone at the top, though 2 tough games remain. One game back are the Jackalopes, Buffaloes, Tampa and Fins. Fins is the leader to claim the #2 spot by having the most points in the group tied for 2nd place. The final playoff spot is currently held by the 6-5 Zombie Hord. But just one game back are Future Winners and East Coast Shaft.

The two longest winning streaks meet next week when the 8-3 Futa, winners of 4 straight, takes on 7-4 Tampa and their 3 game win streak. A pair of 7-4 teams battle as the son takes on the father when the Buffaloes and Jackalopes meet. In what amounts to an elimination game, the two 5-6 teams, ECS and Future play, with the winner having a shot at the playoffs.

Posted by: zcezcest1 | November 25, 2009 1:38 PM | Report abuse

McNabb and JC are both consistent in what counts most: McNabb's been a consistent winner (on a team with no run game and weak receivers) and JC a consistent loser.

Posted by: League-Source | November 25, 2009 1:33 PM | Report abuse

The Eagles actually have a good line. They always have. They draft a lot of linemen. We don't. You can win without a line or a run game but you can't win without both.

Posted by: PAskinsfan17 | November 25, 2009 1:39 PM | Report abuse

I'd hate to be eating dinner at your Thanksgiving table tomorrow.

Posted by: LibertyValence | November 25, 2009 11:57 AM

Do I know you? I don't think you were invited were you? But thanks for letting me know and I won't save a place for you.

Posted by: League-Source | November 25, 2009 12:03 PM


Ooops! My wife just phoned to say that Liberty Valence is her boss and she's invited you, your wife, and cousins. I forgot about that. You can have my turkey and I'll be eating crow. Dark meat or light? Red wine or white?

Posted by: League-Source | November 25, 2009 1:40 PM | Report abuse

well run smart football organizations see players for what they are commodities...there is no room for sympathy or sentiment when it comes to constructing a winner...you use players when they are productive and trade or cut them when they begin or perhaps just before they decline...the key is always be evaluating and developing talent to replace the "player" ...I suggest the RI hamsters adopt the same attitudes toward the current 53 on our roster...don't fall in love with any of these guys cause most will be gone in the next 2 yrs...then don't fall in love with about 95% of the next group because they to will be gone before long... root for the uniforms ....

Posted by: OriginalOldschool | November 25, 2009 1:42 PM | Report abuse

Posted by: zcezcest1

Wow and Wow again. Turn Wow upside down and it becomes Mom. Ironic, as this week's ride in the Hamsters league had at least a few teams screaming for Mom.
=======================================

Funny how it's sometimes hard to tell the difference between good comedy and a thought disorder.

Posted by: atidwell | November 25, 2009 1:43 PM | Report abuse

McNabb is proof that a QB like JC can have a successful career in the NFL, with a good system and continuity in the coaching staff.

Posted by: Curzon417 | November 25, 2009 1:43 PM | Report abuse

why are people asking Mcnabb about Campbell? Is it because he's Black?

Campbell might not be the ENTIRE problem with the offense, but he's the biggest problem. When our O-line does give him time, he either completes a 5 yard pass on 3rd and 6, or he waits for his 6th option to open up and gets sacked because there is no 6th option.

Posted by: wewbank1 | November 25, 2009 1:43 PM | Report abuse

You can win without a line or a run game but you can't win without both.

Posted by: PAskinsfan17 | November 25, 2009 1:39 PM

Helps to have receivers and before now McNabb has been starved for them. Remember when the Eagles grabbed Thrash to be their #2? And when they saddled McNabb with TO? McNabb has not operated under the best of circumstances.

It's true that JC did well the first half of last year before the line fell apart on him. I think, also, in the second half that the league had figured out Zorn and that Zorn has never figured out the league.

Posted by: League-Source | November 25, 2009 1:43 PM | Report abuse

why are people asking Mcnabb about Campbell? Is it because he's Black?

Posted by: wewbank1 | November 25, 2009 1:43 PM

Read the post. It's because McNabb has been a mentor to Campbell. Eli Manning, Tony Romo, Tom Brady, haven't been mentors so no one asks them about Campbell.

Posted by: League-Source | November 25, 2009 1:45 PM | Report abuse

Mcnabb is a playmaker Campell is not.......

Posted by: OriginalOldschool | November 25, 2009 1:50 PM | Report abuse

People paint their conclusions of McNabb from what they hear "analyst" and "experts" on TV, and those d-bag Philly fans say about him. People just eat the f-ing negativity up constantly -- it's the only thing that hold credence with them. It's a disease.

As Bean and 4-12 pointed out the guy has been to more than a few NFC title games and one super bowl appearance. Also he has a TD/INT ratio of 208:95

Yeah, I'm soooooo friggin' glad we don't have QB play like THAT in D.C.

Posted by: RedDMV | November 25, 2009 1:52 PM | Report abuse

Why is Mcnabb JCs mentor? Is it because he's Black? Why does a starting QB in the NFL need a mentor anyway?

Posted by: wewbank1 | November 25, 2009 1:52 PM | Report abuse

lady, mcnabb wins....period...not much else matters, sure he's erratic at times but in the end, wins are all that matters, winning makes a lot of sins go away. Look at this past weekend, Romo was statistically outplayed by JC all game long, except for at the end, and in the W-L column....

Posted by: BeantownGreg1 |

And this was JCs fault? JC had an infinitely better game than Romo.

Posted by: Rypien11 | November 25, 2009 1:52 PM | Report abuse

How is 6 total points a good game for ANYBODY????????

Posted by: wewbank1 | November 25, 2009 1:54 PM | Report abuse

And this was JCs fault? JC had an infinitely better game than Romo.

Posted by: Rypien11 | November 25, 2009 1:52 PM | Report abuse
Yeah, but as usual, JC couldn't make plays when it counted..at the end of the game when they were down. That's where stats don't mean anything. JC's stats looked better then Romo's..yet it was Romo who pulled out the win.

Posted by: ga8085 | November 25, 2009 1:56 PM | Report abuse

"...the cowboys are my daddy" - daniel snyder

Posted by: coparker5 | November 25, 2009 1:57 PM | Report abuse

ryp, you're kind of missing the point, I was trying to point out that Mcnabb wins. Period. He might be erratic at times, he might be a lot of things, but he wins....

Posted by: BeantownGreg1 | November 25, 2009 1:57 PM | Report abuse

McNabb to Campbell:

"You're not the only problem, so don't sweat it! Just go out and sling the ball around and have fun. It's not a big deal. Interception, incompletion - whatever! Win? Lose? That's not what's important - just be yourself out there on Sunday against us. Just do what you've been doing, eh? OK, then, see you at game time!"

Posted by: p1funk | November 25, 2009 1:58 PM | Report abuse

Why is Mcnabb JCs mentor? Is it because he's Black? Why does a starting QB in the NFL need a mentor anyway?

Posted by: wewbank1


Ugh...


Maybe it has NOTHING to do with race and just due to the fact that McNabb has been playing going on ELEVEN years and has had success in the NFL.

Please s*** can the race crap. Just because two QBs who happen to be black talk, people automatically think it's a damn conspiracy.

WTF!?!?!

Posted by: RedDMV | November 25, 2009 2:00 PM | Report abuse

red, i was waiting for you to tear him a new one for that....tame by your standards...haha...

Posted by: BeantownGreg1 | November 25, 2009 2:04 PM | Report abuse

McNabb spent a long time talking to Cutler after the Eagles/Bears game last Sunday. Obviously trying to boast Cutler up - which is commendable.

Posted by: Lisa_R | November 25, 2009 2:04 PM | Report abuse

Ignorant people should just be ignored on a site like this Red.

Posted by: Skins930 | November 25, 2009 2:05 PM | Report abuse

I can't speak for the rest of the blog, but two black guys talking always makes me nervous.

Posted by: Original_etrod | November 25, 2009 2:06 PM | Report abuse

Why does a starting QB in the NFL need a mentor anyway?

Posted by: wewbank1

You know, your probably need a mentor up here on RI (if not in life), because you don't seem to have a clue. I'm going to ask RedDMV to be your mentor. Red, can you have this cracker over for Thanksgiving tomorrow and help him understand from a true master?

It would be good for you wewbank1. A new experience. Red's an African American and you seem to be an alien. Unfortunately, I don't see what's in it for Red.

Posted by: League-Source | November 25, 2009 2:09 PM | Report abuse

Hey etrod... Do u have a pointy hat on?

Posted by: cocodc1 | November 25, 2009 2:09 PM | Report abuse

yet it was Romo who pulled out the win.

Posted by: ga8085 | November 25, 2009 1:56 PM | Report abuse

I don't think you can site sunday's game to prove that Romo is a winner and JC isn't.

If Suisham hits either one of those field goals Romo takes the loss that he deserved.

150yds 1td 1int is rarely a winning stat line.

Posted by: PortisPocketsStr8 | November 25, 2009 2:09 PM | Report abuse

Only when I'm pretending to be Merlin.

Posted by: Original_etrod | November 25, 2009 2:11 PM | Report abuse

I have no problem with McNabb, he's good. And I have a hard time placing the blame on JC for "not coming through when it mattered" when he was running for his life all day and his INT came on a tipped pick.

If SS makes a kick, theres no discussion.

Every minute of the game matters and Romo sucked for 55 minutes, while JC was great.

If JZ doesn't call a terrible play on 3rd and 2, or SS makes one of two kicks, these things aren't even an issue.

Posted by: Rypien11 | November 25, 2009 2:14 PM | Report abuse

Gruden wants the Eagles job after fat-boy Reid hangs it up, or decides to go coach BYU or something. He is not even going to listen to the Bills or Redskins or any such sorry-ass franchises.

Posted by: Political_Stratgst | November 25, 2009 2:14 PM | Report abuse

I don't think you can site sunday's game to prove that Romo is a winner and JC isn't.

If Suisham hits either one of those field goals Romo takes the loss that he deserved.

150yds 1td 1int is rarely a winning stat line.

Posted by: PortisPocketsStr8 | November 25, 2009 2:09 PM | Report abuse

Yeah, but the point is, that when Romo needed a TD, he got it, no matter how crappy he looked all game. When JC needed less then that..game over.

Posted by: ga8085 | November 25, 2009 2:14 PM | Report abuse

Yeah, but the point is, that when Romo needed a TD, he got it, no matter how crappy he looked all game. When JC needed less then that..game over.

Posted by: ga8085 | November 25, 2009 2:14 PM | Report abuse

Fair enough. I won't argue that JC is clutch just that you can't put that loss all on him.

Posted by: PortisPocketsStr8 | November 25, 2009 2:20 PM | Report abuse

Hey, maybe they can swap places next season... as it appears the only way the Redskins are ever going to beat the Eagles over the next few seasons is to have JC17 suiting up for the City of Brother-lee Luv... while the Skins are sure to overpay top dollar for another tired and washed up verteran a few seasons beyond their prime.

Posted by: Vic1 | November 25, 2009 2:21 PM | Report abuse

Bringing in this Bartel guy is the ultimate oddity. He has to stay on the active roster for a couple of weeks minimum now, and it's not like we've got our o-line settled for next year yet.
Maybe he's a Romo clone, and we figure he can run the scout team in a desperate attempt to beat Dallas.
If so, I'm for it!

Posted by: daggar | November 25, 2009 2:24 PM | Report abuse

Orton, Cutler, Schaub, Campbell they are all the same player really. They need players around them, good coaching and play calling to be successful. The QB position in the NFL is really lacking in elite talent.

Posted by: TWISI | November 25, 2009 2:28 PM | Report abuse

enough with masturbating Romo there jessica, is this a cowboys blog. Romo sucks campbell is great

Posted by: pabrian2003 | November 25, 2009 2:28 PM | Report abuse

LOL...smh...;)

Posted by: cocodc1 | November 25, 2009 2:32 PM | Report abuse

McNabb throws an occasional clunker game and creates divets with some of his passes but I am pretty sure we would have been a hell of a lot happier if he was our QB the past 10 years. He is a bit of a cry baby and excuse maker at times but we already have plenty of those. Zorn, Carlos Rogers, JC etc.

Posted by: ToddStinkston | November 25, 2009 2:33 PM | Report abuse

win as a team lose as a team. We were destined to lose SS was 100% going in, there was a 6 minute delay before his first miss. BS on the refs.

It wasn't Campbell Rodgers portis the O lines fault, it was snyders karma

Should have let Hunter fake a punt

Did anyone read that portis said he doesn't know our bread and butter plays because we don't have any? No QB would succeed in this scenario

Campbell and Zorn in 2010, why not who cares

Posted by: pabrian2003 | November 25, 2009 2:36 PM | Report abuse

Helps to have receivers and before now McNabb has been starved for them. Remember when the Eagles grabbed Thrash to be their #2? And when they saddled McNabb with TO? McNabb has not operated under the best of circumstances.

It's true that JC did well the first half of last year before the line fell apart on him. I think, also, in the second half that the league had figured out Zorn and that Zorn has never figured out the league.

Posted by: League-Source | November 25, 2009 1:43 PM | Report abuse

There are a lot of factors as to why our offense is so bad now compared to the first 6 games last year.

#1 pass protection - We are getting sacked and pressured far too much and we are not getting enough time to let plays develop.

#2 no pocket - Our interior line is getting pushed back too far. The QB does not have enough room to step into their throws. This is why we are seeing tipped passes and innaccuracy from both Todd Collins and Jason Campbell.

#3 no run game - without a legit run threat teams can blitz and drop extra guys into coverage without worrying about getting beaten on the ground. This causes the QB to get pressured more often and causes him to have to throw into tighter coverage with more defenders.

#4 Bad Design for personnel - Our offense does not fit our personnel. JC has a slow release and a slow read progression. He belongs in a play action/deep throw coryell type offense. Santana Moss is under 6 foot tall and gets open by running by defenders. He should not be our primary receiver. He is too short. Randy Moss, Larry Fitzgerald, Andre Johnson, Sidney Rice, and Marques Colston are all on great passig teams and are over 6 foot tall. Devin Thomas was very raw coming out of college. He should not be expected to run the precise timed routes that come with the WCO.

No one will be good here until we fix the line and get a real running back. We could be good this Sunday though with BMW at right guard, Levi at left tackle, and someone not collecting social security checks as the running back.

Posted by: PAskinsfan17 | November 25, 2009 2:36 PM | Report abuse

Posted by: zcezcest1

Wow and Wow again. Turn Wow upside down and it becomes Mom. Ironic, as this week's ride in the Hamsters league had at least a few teams screaming for Mom.
=======================================

Funny how it's sometimes hard to tell the difference between good comedy and a thought disorder.

Posted by: atidwell

Always said that if you play FF, its best to check your sanity at the door WOW ... MOM

Posted by: zcezcest1 | November 25, 2009 2:38 PM | Report abuse

paskins, I was feeling you until the RB comment, Rock is 30 too.

We need an O line first, then we need a gosh darn system that we can stick to for more than 2 seasons.

mcnabb didn't need great receivers because he's great and their system works and when they bring in a new guy the vets know the system.

Posted by: pabrian2003 | November 25, 2009 2:51 PM | Report abuse

Leave Campbell alone now peeps. He isn't the cause of your angst. The great bail-out begins with Jerry Gray. More will be opening their multi-colored parachutes before too long.

Get ready for a long winter and spring of discontent. Or you can root for the Natinals. The latter is a much more positive way of approaching the current Redskins crisis.

Posted by: periculum | November 25, 2009 2:58 PM | Report abuse

We need an O line first, then we need a gosh darn system that we can stick to for more than 2 seasons.

mcnabb didn't need great receivers because he's great and their system works and when they bring in a new guy the vets know the system.

Posted by: pabrian2003 | November 25, 2009 2:51 PM | Report abuse

We also have Mason and Ganther this week. I expect 1 or both of them to be effective. I'd like to see Mason get a lot of carries just so we can make an actual assessment on the guy.

The Eagles also throw 55 times a game. They are bound to land a few sooner or later. They basically have these small burners going deep every pay. McNabb has attempted more deep passes in 1 game than we've attempted all year. We need to throw deep more often but the issue is protection. We can't get enough protection to throw deep. The other thing the Eagles always had was Westbrook. Westbrook could block, run a pass route, catch out of the backfield, and run between the tackles. He was a guy that always had to be accounted for. Accounting for him usually meant dropping a guy out of coverage to watch him. If we had a guy like that then it would ease JC's job and everybody else's. The thing I don't like about the Eagles offense is that the deep pass is their bread and butter. It's a low percentage play to begin with and revolving your offense around it can be disasteous in bad weather. I think this is one of the reasons they never win the super bowl. They lay an egg about every 4th game they play.

Posted by: PAskinsfan17 | November 25, 2009 3:02 PM | Report abuse

seems to me that the benching had a positive effect upon Campbell, just like it seems to have done for McNabb couple years ago.

some days you just can't make it happen and need to get sat for the good of your soul.

and some players know how to work with it.

Posted by: 2Pass | November 25, 2009 3:04 PM | Report abuse

PA

all valid points ...the fact of the matter is we have been a bad offensive team for 10 years...the primary reason is below average QB's....this problem has existed long before JC was at the helm ...he is just the latest in long line of has beens or never will be's...many of us defend him because of the circumstances he has had to endure... the reality is he is only a decent NFL QB ( kind of like Ferrotte) actually he is just slightly above him in my book...i'm sure he will get a chance somewhere and probbaly have a 10 yr + nfl career... I just doubt he will win anywhere....plain and simple he is not a playmaker and we are in desparate need to find a QB who is ...once that is solved most of our problems disapear, you can contend with real good QB play and being just good to ok everwhere else

Posted by: OriginalOldschool | November 25, 2009 3:06 PM | Report abuse

McNabb throws an occasional clunker game and creates divets with some of his passes but I am pretty sure we would have been a hell of a lot happier if he was our QB the past 10 years. He is a bit of a cry baby and excuse maker at times but we already have plenty of those. Zorn, Carlos Rogers, JC etc.

Posted by: ToddStinkston

His treatment in DC was only be slightly better than the way he has been treated by iggles fans.

Posted by: dcwun | November 25, 2009 3:23 PM | Report abuse

tweet tweet

Posted by: Curzon417 | November 25, 2009 3:25 PM | Report abuse

Yeah, but the point is, that when Romo needed a TD, he got it, no matter how crappy he looked all game. When JC needed less then that..game over.

Posted by: ga8085

Romo a winner? Thats until the calendar says December. After that, its ALL down hill and this year won't be any different.

Posted by: dcwun | November 25, 2009 3:27 PM | Report abuse

McNabb on Campbell: "I hope he stays with the Skins because I'll never be the worst QB in the division."

Posted by: peterandmeredith | November 25, 2009 3:33 PM | Report abuse

Philadelphia Eagles quarterback Donovan McNabb has been among Jason Campbell's mentors since Campbell entered the league in 2005. During difficult times, of which Campbell has experienced plenty with the Redskins, he often has reached out to McNabb for advice and guidance.
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Really?? Does anyone else find it strange that a QB on a RIVAL TEAM would be the other QB's mentor??? Was Roger Staubach Joe Theismann's mentor?? How about Phil Simms being Troy Aikman's mentor??? This is just strange.. and kinda disturbing.

Posted by: sovine08 | November 25, 2009 3:37 PM | Report abuse

McNabb strikes me as the type of guy who probably mocks Campbell behind his back.

And Campbell's too stupid to figure it out.

Posted by: peterandmeredith | November 25, 2009 3:43 PM | Report abuse

Hey since Campbell and McNabb are such good buds.. I say when Vick leaves the Eagles after the season they should pick up Campbell.. McNabb happy, Campbell happy.. the Skins REAL HAPPY!!!

Posted by: sovine08 | November 25, 2009 3:45 PM | Report abuse

"No one wants to be benched..."
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Yeah I'm sure Collins thought the same thing after the 2007 season after he won 4 games in a row, had a 106 QB rating and got the Skins in the playoffs only to be told he was going back to the bench.. He didn't like it either but he didn't go CRY on the shoulder of the opposing team's QB about it...

Posted by: sovine08 | November 25, 2009 3:53 PM | Report abuse

maybe mcnabb who is black offers some advice to campbell because this is america..built and constructed on racism always has always will be. suiSHAM blew the game sunday he CHOKED he should have been replaced after training camp this season the other kicker he supposedly beat out had a stronger leg. this guy missed many kicks last year and not alot of uproar about him..is it because he is white? I saw mcnabb throw a deep touchdown last week and he had 3-4 seconds to throw no one was close to him does washingtons line offer that kind of protection?

Posted by: wathu19 | November 25, 2009 6:06 PM | Report abuse

everyone's making a big deal about campbell befriending another qb. it has nothing to do w/ their common ethnicity and if you think that, you're a fuqqin idiot. when you see that someone has some measure of success, it's a good idea to share that information. i'm not saying campbell is perfect but to think that he's the root cause of the problems on the team is stupid. of the 4 skill positions on the offense (te, wr, rb, qb) it's funny how people look at the qb when the tight end may not block if that's their assignment, receivers may not catch when the ball is right in there hand or the running back doesn't hit the hole when it's there. how many times have you seen randle el catch the ball and start dancing laterally instead of driving for the first down all the defenders are closing on him? if campbell should leave the team, he'll go somewhere w/ more stability than the redskins have and he'll flourish. it's easy for any of us to give our take on how to fix the problem but i bet none of us including myself could step in and do anywhere as good as he could. face it...there's a reason why we sit here ranting and saying stupid shyt while the real big boys play the game.

Posted by: charronegro1971 | November 26, 2009 3:00 AM | Report abuse

RFK-ROX; Week 14 vs the Bears 2007.

Starting QB Jason Campbell (10/16 for 100 yards) left the game in the second quarter with a dislocated left knee cap.
After a scoreless first quarter, the Redskins scored first as QB Todd Collins completed a 21-yard TD pass to TE Todd Yoder for the only score of the second quarter. Redskins went on to win this game. Although Campbell started the game it was Collin that got the win.

That gives Campbell 18 wins and not 19.

Posted by: hessone | November 26, 2009 9:17 AM | Report abuse

lots of good points.

1.collins should have kept his job in 2008.

2.campbell is bad.

3.best friends with your competition???? maybe the eagles can trade for campbell.

4. campbell in inacurate, slow to react, fumbles too easily and geneally is a bad quarterback and the main reason the redskins don't score more.

Posted by: cavalieri10 | November 26, 2009 10:33 AM | Report abuse

lots of good points.

1.collins should have kept his job in 2008.

2.campbell is bad.

3.best friends with your competition???? maybe the eagles can trade for campbell.

4. campbell in inacurate, slow to react, fumbles too easily and geneally is a bad quarterback and the main reason the redskins don't score more.

Posted by: cavalieri10

More Points:

Use capitilization, spell check and better grammer in your next post. Leave JC alone.

Posted by: SPUD2 | November 26, 2009 12:56 PM | Report abuse

To all JC fans,

Blaming Jason's rather pedestrian quarterback numbers on the o-line has gotten old and it is really pathetic. Jason Campbell lacks the necessary leadership skills, confidence, intelligence (in terms of reading defenses and decision making), and the playmaking ability to be an elite quarterback in this league. NTM the obvious, he plays scared. Great quarterbacks or even moderately competent high school QB's don't make excuses or point fingers. They don't whine about all the yellow terrible towels being waved in the stands while they are supposed to be reading the defensive blitz so they can recognize their hot read or audible to a better play. The Pittsburgh game last season really exposed JC - he cannot win a game without a successful running game. (Remember, JC was successful at Auburn b/c he had both Ronnie Brown and Cadillac Williams in the back field.)

For the record, Aaron Rodgers has the league's worst o-line, please compare their stats especially that really insignificant one - number of TD's thrown (22 vs. 10). QB's are paid to throw TD's,they are not paid to throw the least amount of INT's, which he was lauded for the entire first half of last season. In four seasons as the starting QB, Jason has a pathetic 45 TD passes, that's just a little over 11 TD's per season. (I heard that some really good QB's in the NFL throw that many in one season but that might be one of those urban legends.) And we wonder why we cannot score more than 17 points a game. How many times did Jason throw a pass even close to the end zone last week? NONE. WHAT WAS THE EXCUSE FOR THAT????? AND HE HAD A GOOD GAME, YEAH RIGHT!!!!!! That's retarded. So, let's stop celebrating mediocrity.

Here is a prediction, Jason will be the next Byron Leftwich if he is lucky which is unfortunate b/c he has been given every opportunity to be successful. There was no excuse to start a QB who is unable or unwilling to even take chances in order to throw TD's and score points.

Finally, he has demonstrated on numerous occasions that he cannot be counted on in the clutch. This is third game he has failed to lead a game winning drive against Dallas (@Dallas '07, @Home '08 and last week). I AM DIE HARD SKINS FAN, SO YOU DON"T LOSE TO DALLAS EVERRRRRR!!!!!! There is no excuse for that. So, unless he dramatically improves during these final six games of this season, the Jason Campbell Experiment in DC needs to come to a much needed conclusion.

Posted by: returntoglory | November 26, 2009 8:23 PM | Report abuse

returntoglory, i'm not one to be vague so i won't bullshyt at all and say "to all the jc haters...." i'll just call you out because i can and i will. you implied that campbell makes excuses or points fingers. at what point have you ever seen or heard campbell do such a thing? it hasn't happened because he spends more time holding himself accountable for how he plays to worry about how his other team mates play. as far as playing scared, i guess you're an empath and can feel what campbell feels? i'll take a shot in the dark and say you've never played quarterback on any level besides madden football so you wouldn't know what it's like for someone running at full speed to hit you from various directions. also consider that fact that zorn (er, sherm lewis/smith) doesn't really allow campbell to audible plays. comparing campbell to rodgers is asinine because rogers has more proven weapons to throw to. donald driver has 5 tds, greg jennings has 3, donald lee has 1, james jones has 4, jordy nelson has 2, spencer havner has 4 and john kuhn has 2. on the ground ryan grant has 5 tds, rodgers himself has 3 and john kuhn has 1. for the redskins passing, moss has 2 tds, cooley has 2, davis has 1, thomas has 1, sellers has 1 (courtesy of the smith), portis has 1, cartwright has 1 and yoder has 2 while on the ground, portis has 1 td, betts has 2 and smith has 1. the redskins are supposed to be a run first team and the lack of production on the ground has made the team very one dimensional. qb's may be paid to throw tds but they're not paid to catch their own passes which means someone else has to catch them. qb's are also expected to not turn the ball over which campbell hasn't done much this season. as for your question about campbell throwing into the end zone during the dallas game, how many play calls afforded him the opportunity? even before the first half ended and there was still time on the clock as well as 3rd down, was campbell supposed to tell the punting unit to come off the field for one shot to score? by your account, that was his decision to stay on the sideline, right? for you to say that the skins aren't supposed to lose to dallas ever means you really do play alot of madden football. what do you have? xbox 360? ps3? pc? we went a stint of 12 straight losses to them. it's time you "returntoreality". finally, has campbell really been given the opportunity to be successful? as a pro, he hasn't have more than 3 consistent seasons w/ the same offensive system ever. both manning and favre have had several coaches but played under the same or similar system for their career. if you tried to make a point in your rant, you made it. you've proven that you don't know shyt about football.

Posted by: charronegro1971 | November 26, 2009 10:27 PM | Report abuse

Charronegro1971,

I'll have to tone down this response so they will actually allow me to post it this time. You called it correctly, I have never played QB but based on your response it is obvious that you have never played the position or any other position either.

First, your incoherent rant exemplifies my very point. The GB receivers are more proven b/c Rodgers (I spelled his name correctly for you) throws a more accurate pass which allows his receivers to make plays after the catch- it is called Yards After the Catch. He also takes numerous shots down field, did you look at the Lions game (granted it was the Lions but we lost to them this season)? In all of your pro experience, have you ever seen a QB throw so few passes down field. Every QB in the league takes a shot whenever possible b/c they want to score not get in FG range.

Second, when you have a porous o-line, can't call audibles, and play scared, you should really learn how to read defenses. As an ex-boys club bench warming QB, you of all ex-players should know that.

Third, every starting QB with exception of JC would have been fighting like hell to get back on the field last Sunday to take a shot at the end zone before the end of the half. Where do starting QB's voluntarily take themselves out of the game when they have the opportunity to step on the neck of their arch-rivals? You may want that loser mentality and cowardice in your starting QB but I don't.

Fourth, here is an interesting fact -Hunter Smith and JC have the same number of TD's (ONE) in the last two games. Yup, that stat exudes a lot of confidence in the ability of our starting QB to throw TD's.

Finally, as a true Redskins fan, I will never concede that losing to Dallas is acceptable. I grew up during the glory years (hence the user id name) of the '80s when the Redskins players and fans took pride in hating and beating their arch-rivals. I am not sure where the f you are from or what team you are a fan of but fake fair weather fans like you should sit down and shut up. Maybe if the players of the last fifteen years played with that same sense of pride, then maybe and just maybe, we would have not lost "12 straight games in a row" to them. The Cowgirls organization made sure to sweep us every year despite what type of season they were having. Wouldn't that be nice if Redskins players of today had the same pride and urgency in what it means to be not just a football player but a true Redskins player?

P.S. - I am grown and like most other grown men, I don't play video games any more or live vicariously through them . Here is a reality check-38 year old men should not be bragging about playing video games or comparing every real NFL play to them.

Posted by: returntoglory | November 27, 2009 9:37 AM | Report abuse

No wonder Campbell is screwed up - taking advice from a quarterback that chokes in big games - who is sloppy with the ball - who isn't particularly bright, and who hasn't gotten better despite being in the league for a decade. I've never been impressed with McNubb. His Super Bowl performance was the clincher for me - under prepared, easily rattled, and out of shape.

Posted by: laserwizard | November 27, 2009 3:46 PM | Report abuse

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