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NFL's Speed Catches Up to Orakpo

Although rookie defensive end/strong-side linebacker Brian Orakpo impressed in the preseason, he was not prepared for the speed of play in an NFL season opener, defensive coordinator Greg Blache said.

"He had no issues in coverage. His coverage wasn't the issue," Blache said. "The thing that happened to Brian, and happens to any rookie in that first ballgame, [is] the speed of it is 10 times more than you ever imagined. You play in the preseason, you say, 'I can play in this league.' On Sunday in the opener, the intensity level, the speed, is at a whole different dimension he's never dreamed of before. He's nervous. He's antsy.

"But I thought for a rookie it's good he got it out of the way. He'll play better this week. But at the same time, he wasn't bad last week. He played better before, but in the first ballgame, you know that's going to happen. That's part of his maturity process. That's part of him becoming a great pro. Brian's going to have a great rookie season. He'll be better this week because he's been baptized through the fire."

Orakpo was credited two unassisted tackles.

By Jason Reid  |  September 17, 2009; 4:12 PM ET
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Comments

First, Always wanted to do this!

Posted by: coop2401 | September 17, 2009 4:15 PM | Report abuse

He will be a beast, his play is the least of my concerns. Now if we start to pass to set up the run instead of trying to run to set up the pass, we might be better off.

Posted by: tomdchancar | September 17, 2009 4:19 PM | Report abuse

He will be a beast, his play is the least of my concerns. Now if we start to pass to set up the run instead of trying to run to set up the pass, we might be better off.

Posted by: tomdchancar | September 17, 2009 4:20 PM | Report abuse

I know I'm ready for some Orakpwnage

Posted by: Daspig | September 17, 2009 4:21 PM | Report abuse

You guys aren't falling for one of Gregs fake PFT stories are you?

Posted by: Flounder21 | September 17, 2009 4:23 PM | Report abuse

This is good because now it slows down.

Orakpo (yes Orakpo), Cooley, Fletcher are like #'s: 496, 484, and 489 on the top 500 "worries me" list with the 'skins.

Posted by: RedDMV | September 17, 2009 4:25 PM | Report abuse

I knew the preseason was just a mirage...

Posted by: McMetal | September 17, 2009 4:27 PM | Report abuse

SHHHHHHH.....flound...come on man....

Posted by: BeantownGreg1 | September 17, 2009 4:28 PM | Report abuse

I got had. But Samuels has been hurt so much I think it's only a question of when, not if.

Posted by: pgugino | September 17, 2009 4:30 PM | Report abuse

Can only hope we switch to a 3-4 scheme next season. Orak will become THE beast!

Posted by: shanteefamilee | September 17, 2009 4:30 PM | Report abuse

Way to stir the pot, Bean.

Posted by: _Stumped_ | September 17, 2009 4:30 PM | Report abuse

Does BoDog take bets on whether players get injured during the season?

Posted by: pgugino | September 17, 2009 4:32 PM | Report abuse

I haven't seen Berry play yet, but I've heard about him. I think they play Florida this Saturday, so I'll tune in.
Posted by: RedDMV | September 17, 2009 3:44 PM | Report abuse

While you are at it, watch Florida's safety, Major Wright. He is pretty good himself, not that I am biased or anything. He is the one who crushed Oklahoma's receiver in the National Championship game.

Google Major Wright hit, you'll see it there.

You can youtube it as well.

Posted by: gatorskinz2000 | September 17, 2009 4:33 PM | Report abuse

Posted by: will_ga | September 17, 2009 4:33 PM | Report abuse

I don't have access to sites such as PFT, so someone is gonna have to confirm/deny that...

Posted by: BeantownGreg1 | September 17, 2009 4:39 PM | Report abuse

Watch Orakpo closely. I think the Giants did.
Can we get the WR's Baptisted by Fire LL aka MM Fred Davis MK or DT. Can we? Can we please?
Dancing Queen reference was truly disturbing. But True. LOL.

Posted by: zariah | September 17, 2009 4:40 PM | Report abuse

I think they play Florida this Saturday, so I'll tune in.
Posted by: RedDMV | September 17, 2009 3:44

I rarely pull for Florida but I hope they crush Tenn. Lane Kiffin is the slimy puddle left after a doosh inserts a doosh into his doosh & then bends over & pushes real hard. Lord, I just don't like him at all.

Posted by: will_ga | September 17, 2009 4:41 PM | Report abuse

I know most of the people on the blog has been talking about how the offense didn't do much but I am more disappointed in our defense. They just couldn’t stop them when it counted. I think the Giants were 5 for 7 on 3rd down efficiency in the first half. We did do a good job on Jacobs but Ahmad Bradshaw ran for 60 yards. More yards than Jacobs on 4 less carries. Boss and Manningham combind for 6 catches for 120 yards. Average of 20 yards per catch. I thought our defense was suppose to be much better than last year.

Posted by: TheJury | September 17, 2009 4:43 PM | Report abuse

I don't have access to sites such as PFT, so someone is gonna have to confirm/deny that...

Posted by: BeantownGreg1 | September 17,

I can confirm that its not been denied. I also would deny that it has been confirmed.

Posted by: will_ga | September 17, 2009 4:44 PM | Report abuse

Washington Mystics playoff game tonight starts @ 7 pm in Comcast Center!

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2009/09/16/AR2009091602562.html

Posted by: RedCherokee | September 17, 2009 4:45 PM | Report abuse

Posted by: zcezcest1 | September 17, 2009 4:45 PM | Report abuse

Lane Kiffin is the slimy puddle left after a doosh inserts a doosh into his doosh & then bends over & pushes real hard. Lord, I just don't like him at all.

Posted by: will_ga | September 17, 2009 4:41 PM | Report abuse

Isnt this what Al Davis said at the press Conference about Lane Kiffin and why he fired him?

Posted by: gatorskinz2000 | September 17, 2009 4:47 PM | Report abuse

Yeah seriously, what's really to be disappointing with when looking at the offense. We topped our average point total of last year, which was 16.6 points. Better than average!!!

Posted by: rexforab | September 17, 2009 4:47 PM | Report abuse

I rarely pull for Florida but I hope they crush Tenn. Lane Kiffin is the slimy puddle left after a doosh inserts a doosh into his doosh & then bends over & pushes real hard. Lord, I just don't like him at all.

Posted by: will_ga

Couldn't agree more. And it couldn't happen to a better coach either. I've been pondering what would be most embarrassing for Tennessee in the fourth quarter:

-Kneeldowns from backup Florida QB with 8 minutes still left?

Posted by: pgugino | September 17, 2009 4:50 PM | Report abuse

Keep your eyes peeled for an out of work OT

Posted by: BrooklynSkins | September 17, 2009 4:51 PM | Report abuse

Posted by: alex35332 | September 17, 2009 4:52 PM | Report abuse

Come on guys! If you're going to post bogus links, at least Rick Roll us.

F*ckn amatures.

Posted by: Original_etrod | September 17, 2009 4:54 PM | Report abuse

LaCanfora also has a biting rip on the skins front office and player conditioning, based off the criticism of the teams physical condition last weeks game.

http://blogs.nfl.com/category/jason-la-canfora/Snyders-head-medical-expert-never-finished-highschool

Posted by: alex35332 | September 17, 2009 4:56 PM | Report abuse

O_E
Rick rolling is so lame that MIT guys rick rolled their own school. Thus no longer is it cool.

Posted by: alex35332 | September 17, 2009 4:57 PM | Report abuse

Posted by: alex35332 | September 17, 2009 4:59 PM | Report abuse

I would love to draft Taylor Mays out of USC to play alongside Landry.

To early for this?

Posted by: supuradam | September 17, 2009 5:02 PM | Report abuse

Yeah seriously, what's really to be disappointing with when looking at the offense. We topped our average point total of last year, which was 16.6 points. Better than average!!!

Posted by: rexforab | September 17, 2009 4:47 PM | Report abuse


Except that special teams scored on the fake field goal, so we only got 10 points from the offense.

Posted by: Rusty6392 | September 17, 2009 5:03 PM | Report abuse

All I get is an error message when I click on those links.

Posted by: Chia_Pet | September 17, 2009 5:05 PM | Report abuse

LaCanfora also has a biting rip on the skins front office and player conditioning, based off the criticism of the teams physical condition last weeks game.

http://blogs.nfl.com/category/jason-la-canfora/Snyders-head-medical-expert-never-finished-highschool


Posted by: alex35332 | September 17, 2009 4:56 PM | Report abuse

Don't know if that was supposed to be a real link, but I got a 404 error when I clicked on it.

Posted by: Rusty6392 | September 17, 2009 5:08 PM | Report abuse

Orakpo is probably going to be the next big waste of talent for the Skins. He'll be a good linebacker, but he could have been a great DE.

the fact hes is playing LB, when his skills are to rush the passer crazy.

its a classic case of getting the positions for the players, instead of the players for the positions.

Posted by: scottherbert5 | September 17, 2009 5:09 PM | Report abuse

Rusty did you read the link?

Posted by: alex35332 | September 17, 2009 5:09 PM | Report abuse

Chia, you're clicking too hard and passing by the link.Just lightly caress the mouse & see if that helps.

Posted by: will_ga | September 17, 2009 5:11 PM | Report abuse

I would love to draft Taylor Mays out of USC to play alongside Landry.

To early for this?

Posted by: supuradam | September 17, 2009 5:02 PM | Report abuse

___________________________

If Campbell doesn't improve they'll probably use that pick on Snead, McCoy or trade up for Bradford.

But if they do go for a safety, the dude from Tennessee will be a better pro than Mays.

Posted by: dfbovey | September 17, 2009 5:11 PM | Report abuse

Yeah seriously, what's really to be disappointing with when looking at the offense. We topped our average point total of last year, which was 16.6 points. Better than average!!!

Posted by: rexforab | September 17, 2009 4:47 PM | Report abuse


Except that special teams scored on the fake field goal, so we only got 10 points from the offense.

Posted by: Rusty6392
_________________________

And 7 of those were in garbage/desparation time, when we actually took some shots (and playing against a prevent D). So we really scored 3. Just kidding, sort of. Yecchh. Open it up Zorny.

Posted by: chasgiffen | September 17, 2009 5:12 PM | Report abuse

http://languagelog.ldc.upenn.edu/nll/?p=1246

and double click on the cartoon image

Then, name the

1. Shadow figure
2. Cowering figure
3. Splat on the wall

Posted by: zcezcest1 | September 17, 2009 5:13 PM | Report abuse

At 12:21 PM, I post this about Albert Haynesworth:

Great effort, and he will be a boon to this team, one of the few bright spots...

Posted by: Chia_Pet | September 17, 2009 12:21 PM

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2 hours and 21 minutes later, Jason Reid posts this:

Haynesworth's strong performance was among the Redskins' few bright spots

By Jason Reid | September 17, 2009; 2:42 PM ET

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Ahem, Mista Mayor...

Posted by: Chia_Pet | September 17, 2009 5:14 PM | Report abuse

If Campbell doesn't improve they'll probably use that pick on Snead, McCoy or trade up for Bradford.

Posted by: dfbovey
______________________

And this is what I want to see.

Posted by: chasgiffen | September 17, 2009 5:15 PM | Report abuse

There are many words in the English language Mista Mayor, why do you always have to choose the same exact words I do?

Some "journalist!"

Posted by: Chia_Pet | September 17, 2009 5:16 PM | Report abuse

What's your point chia? That Reid can compose a better sentence than you? It ain't exactly stop the presses info.

Posted by: mack1 | September 17, 2009 5:18 PM | Report abuse

Will,

Tried lightly caressing the mouse as you suggested.

Same result.

Error message.

My computer must be chippy.

Posted by: Chia_Pet | September 17, 2009 5:19 PM | Report abuse

Chia, do you hear the fishing line whirring?

Posted by: chasgiffen | September 17, 2009 5:22 PM | Report abuse

Mack1,

I was joking.

Sorry you didn't get it.

My bad.

Posted by: Chia_Pet | September 17, 2009 5:22 PM | Report abuse

Feel the hook in your mouth?

Posted by: chasgiffen | September 17, 2009 5:23 PM | Report abuse

Chas,

Huh?

All I hear is the garbage man right now.

Posted by: Chia_Pet | September 17, 2009 5:23 PM | Report abuse

then there was that one play dunno if u all rem....where landry was two steps behind the receiver but manning just overthrew it

Posted by: jasonma1 | September 17, 2009 5:24 PM | Report abuse

Just how highly regarded (for the NFL) are Snead, McCoy, or Bradford considered to be by top evaluators? Any other good NFL-prospect QB's coming out in the 2010 draft?

Posted by: chasgiffen | September 17, 2009 5:27 PM | Report abuse

Yep,

Manning, he ain't perfect either.

Good thing for us he overthrew the ball on the play LL was too steps behind.

When all else fails, just whack the guy out of bounds.

Posted by: Chia_Pet | September 17, 2009 5:28 PM | Report abuse

look for FL to hang a 49-0 game on TENN this weekend, esp. after all the trash talking Kiffin did during the off season

It will be brutal, kind of like when Meyer called time out twice on GA at the end of the game after the had stomped on the Gator logo the previous year

Posted by: noonefromtampa | September 17, 2009 5:28 PM | Report abuse

This thing about NFL speed/game speed, I remember a quote frrom Gregg Williams in RockyMac's second year that his mental processes had caught up to game speed and that he hadn't gotten there in his first season ... which makes it kind of exciting that Orakpo might already be there by Week Two.

[The non-Skins offenses around the league are hoping to catch up to Laron speed by the end of this season.]

Posted by: dcsween | September 17, 2009 5:30 PM | Report abuse

Wait a sec, I didn't see these intervening posts before I hit submit.

Are you guys actually pooping on Landry?

Posted by: dcsween | September 17, 2009 5:32 PM | Report abuse

Any other good NFL-prospect QB's coming out in the 2010 draft?

Posted by: chasgiffen | September 17, 2009 5:27 PM

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We don't have to look far; just across the Bay Bridge we have a sleeper:

Bobby Sheahin, the senior QB (6'1", 215) from Salisbury State University will be available. He's sportin' a 120 QB rating.

Plus the Gulls have a receiver by the name of William Midgette that we could bring in at the same time.

Posted by: Chia_Pet | September 17, 2009 5:36 PM | Report abuse

Are you guys actually pooping on Landry?

Posted by: dcsween | September 17, 2009 5:32 PM

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Yes we are.

plus cL's not here to defend him.

Posted by: Chia_Pet | September 17, 2009 5:40 PM | Report abuse

the D held em to 3 on first drive, hard to do, must be considered a success by reasonable people.

The O looked like they were going to dominate on the 1st play, then Zorn crapped in the bed on the 2nd play.

By the end of the 1st the TOP was so skewed, its unfair to question the D, given the FACTS.

We really needed to score on the first drive, at least 3

Posted by: pabrian2003 | September 17, 2009 5:41 PM | Report abuse

Orakpo caused that interception by leaping into Manning's face.

Jay-z and metallica? no wonder we have issues...Can you O-ver-rated? Maybe the DJ Premier Mix

As for Metallica, paleeze...redneck noise

Posted by: boricuabopper | September 17, 2009 5:44 PM | Report abuse

really surprised they cut Bridges. Let's not talk about next years draft. Mmmm k?!

Posted by: pabrian2003 | September 17, 2009 5:45 PM | Report abuse

then Zorn crapped in the bed on the 2nd play.

Posted by: pabrian2003 | September 17, 2009 5:41 PM

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Yes he did, but ARE, by not throwing the ball away, laid in the poopie and smeared it all over the bed.

and as we all know this one bed crap of a play cost us the game against the New York Giants.

Posted by: Chia_Pet | September 17, 2009 5:46 PM | Report abuse

the 3 white guys on the team should get to hear metallica.....ok?

Posted by: pabrian2003 | September 17, 2009 5:49 PM | Report abuse

Only the friggin' Deadskins would draft one of the best pass rushing DE's in college over the last couple of years and put him at a position he's never played.
I used to get tired of all the moaning about Snyder, but it's finally sunk in on me. He doesn't know sjk about how to build a team, he only knows how to make money. And since he makes money hand over fist, there's no reason for him to sell the team. We are doomed, fellow Skins fans. D O O M E D
See ya at the game Sunday. Sigh....

Posted by: RedskinWillie | September 17, 2009 5:50 PM | Report abuse

Only the friggin' Deadskins would draft one of the best pass rushing DE's in college over the last couple of years and put him at a position he's never played.

Posted by: RedskinWillie | September 17, 2009 5:50 PM

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In all seriousness, which ain't much these days, I could not agree more.

Orakpo needs to do what he does best: get after the QB. He needs to do it on 1st down, on 2nd down, AND, on third down.

We already have one project in Chris Wilson. Why do we need two?

and I don't wanna hear how Orakpo is too small to hold up at DE in the NFC East.

Man is a beast.

Play him at DE.

Posted by: Chia_Pet | September 17, 2009 5:55 PM | Report abuse

We are doomed, fellow Skins fans. D O O M E D
See ya at the game Sunday.

Post of the week!

Posted by: daggar | September 17, 2009 5:56 PM | Report abuse

Blame it on ARE. That was a 'suicide mission' if the best possible outcome was throwing it away, then it shouldn't have been called.

It was a terrible call, especially from a coach who preaches about rhythm.

How many times have you watched the replay? Did he have time to get rid of it? Did he have a safe place to throw it away? How far would the ball have to travel to get out of bounds and beyond the line of scrimmage?

Did you study all of that or just say, " he should have thrown it away " like every other Monday morning QB

Posted by: pabrian2003 | September 17, 2009 5:58 PM | Report abuse

Things would look a whole heck uv a lot better if Oher were in a Redskins uni instead of a Ravens uni.

Posted by: periculum | September 17, 2009 6:02 PM | Report abuse

Did he have time to get rid of it?

Posted by: pabrian2003 | September 17, 2009 5:58 PM

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In the time it takes me to key this post he could have thrown the ball away three times, and changed the sheets.

Posted by: Chia_Pet | September 17, 2009 6:02 PM | Report abuse

Did he have a safe place to throw it away?

Posted by: pabrian2003 | September 17, 2009 5:58 PM

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Out of bounds.

As he's a former QB, trust me, he has the arm to get it to the sideline.

Posted by: Chia_Pet | September 17, 2009 6:05 PM | Report abuse

Man is a beast.
Play him at DE.
Posted by: Chia_Pet | September 17, 2009

After he was drafted Blache put him MWash's old position. That's saying a lot dude.

Now, are you also going to say Suggs should play DE. That guy is ***excellent*** with two hands down in the rush. HE IS AN ALL-PRO BEAST. Probably a potential MVP. Would you put him at DE?

I am really tired of beast this and Orapko Beast DE that ... Orapko HAD PROBLEMS in his first game. We note that Oher didn't. Does that make Oher the better "beast"? He certain is one the Skins desperately need at this point.

Let Blache coach the defense he seems to know what he is doing.

Posted by: periculum | September 17, 2009 6:07 PM | Report abuse

Today's Best Bumper Sticker:

"I see your mouth and can already imagine the duct tape on it."

Analysis:

Subtle...and somewhat mean-spirited.

And yet when swished around in the mind, it passive-agressively redeems itself with the promise of silence from someone who won't shut up.

Posted by: MistaMoe | September 17, 2009 6:08 PM | Report abuse

It's called a contingency plan.

When the play breaks down, you throw the ball away.

Simple enough for ya?

Posted by: Chia_Pet | September 17, 2009 6:08 PM | Report abuse

As noted, Orakpo had problems against the Giants, because it was his first game in the NFL, and he's playing a completely new position.

Oher?

Not so much.

Continue comparing apples to oranges in your posts, and once again, bold type ain't helpin' ya in that regard.

Posted by: Chia_Pet | September 17, 2009 6:12 PM | Report abuse

"Only the friggin' Deadskins would draft one of the best pass rushing DE's in college over the last couple of years and put him at a position he's never played."

I 100% agree with this. Just stick the kid at DE and try him at LB next year or something. He would never get double teamed with Big Al in the middle. Instead, they have two washed up DE's who can't pass rush even with the best DT in the game in the middle.

You're only taking Orakpo out of the play if he can't play the position and screwing up his head at the same time.

- Ray

Posted by: rmcazz | September 17, 2009 6:12 PM | Report abuse

"Let Blache coach the defense he seems to know what he is doing."

No he doesn't.

All you have to do to beat the Skins is throw it over the middle.

God knows it was open to Manning the whole game.

- Ray

Posted by: rmcazz | September 17, 2009 6:14 PM | Report abuse

And periculum, when I say continue comparing apples to oranges in your posts, I don't mean how they're both fruit and how both grow on trees.

Posted by: Chia_Pet | September 17, 2009 6:16 PM | Report abuse

DeMarcus Ware should also be playing hand-on-the-ground, he's terrible.

Posted by: dc-nc | September 17, 2009 6:17 PM | Report abuse

Ware was considered a perfect fit as rush linebacker in 3-4 defense prior the 2005 NFL Draft. However, then-Cowboys head coach Bill Parcells, attempting to switch Dallas′ base defense from a 4-3 to a 3-4, decided to pick Ware with the 11th pick overall.

-wiki

Posted by: Chia_Pet | September 17, 2009 6:27 PM | Report abuse

I think wikipedia got in wrong, in that Ware was considered a perfect fit as a pass rushing end coming out of Troy State, but the Cowboys, in their transition to a 3-4 defense, converted him to OLB.

The Redskins ain't runnin' no 3-4.


Posted by: Chia_Pet | September 17, 2009 6:31 PM | Report abuse

Chia_Pet,
You're absolutely spot on about Orakpo. I know it's not Blache's style to be applying constant qb pressure... but that's why we got him, and not so that he can be a cover olb. Blache already puts 8 in the box often already. But at the same time he says Orakpo is too small to stop the run. BS. Plently of DEs his size playing in the league. And, we need pressure off the edge on every play, NOT just 3rd and long.

Posted by: pgugino | September 17, 2009 6:37 PM | Report abuse

Eventually, the Skins will realize that they need to let Orakpo do what he does best, which is rush the passer. Any prospects in the 2010 draft for strong-side LB & OL?

Posted by: JinxMan | September 17, 2009 6:42 PM | Report abuse

Are we really talking about the 2010 draft already?

Now that is depressing.

Posted by: Chia_Pet | September 17, 2009 6:48 PM | Report abuse

DeMarcus Ware should also be playing hand-on-the-ground, he's terrible.

Posted by: dc-nc | September 17, 2009 6:17 PM


I love when dummies compare 3-4 OLBs to 4-3 OLBs...completely different positions. If the Skins ran a 3-4, I would LOVE Orakpo there. But in a 4-3 he should be a DE, end of story. Playing him at LB is dumb, I've always thought so.

And I'm with you PGugino...how 255 pound Andre Carter is big enough to handle the run and 263 pound Orakpo is too small to do it is beyond me. The last few years of Michael Strahan's career, he was playing LDE at under 260 and was dominant. If they didn't think Orakpo could to that, they should have taken Oher and called it a day. Seems like no matter how great the talent here, the Skins find a way to misuse it.

Posted by: brownwood26 | September 17, 2009 7:00 PM | Report abuse

I definitely share most of the concerns being expressed on this blog all week. But I am not among the "All is lost after Week 1" camp. Look, we've got a gift of a schedule the next month. I fully expect this team to take advantage of it. JC should be able to get some confidence and rhythym, CP will run hard, the D will be solid as usual. I think we have a good shot to be 4-1 in one month's time. But all that really matters right now is the Rams.

31-14 Skins. First time over 30 under JZ.

HAIL

Posted by: Notorious_LMG | September 17, 2009 7:01 PM | Report abuse

Look, we've got a gift of a schedule the next month.

Posted by: Notorious_LMG | September 17, 2009 7:01 PM

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You've heard of the gift horse and where not to look?

Posted by: Chia_Pet | September 17, 2009 7:05 PM | Report abuse

Gotta love totally irrelevant metaphors! I make my living off 'em.

Posted by: chasgiffen | September 17, 2009 7:24 PM | Report abuse

We were the LAST place team in our division. We're supposed to catch a break on the scheduling. Started off dammed mean if you ask me. Everybody hates SNYDER, even the schedule-makers.

Posted by: glawrence007 | September 17, 2009 7:25 PM | Report abuse

Just how highly regarded (for the NFL) are Snead, McCoy, or Bradford considered to be by top evaluators? Any other good NFL-prospect QB's coming out in the 2010 draft?

Posted by: chasgiffen | September 17, 2009 5:27 PM | Report abuse

I heard there is a junior at Aliquipa HS, outside Pittsburgh, probable Heismann winner in 2012. We should start accumulating draft picks for the 2013 draft, so we can grab him, if he comes out early. It's never too early to plan for the draft.

Posted by: frediefritz | September 17, 2009 7:33 PM | Report abuse

Just how highly regarded (for the NFL) are Snead, McCoy, or Bradford considered to be by top evaluators? Any other good NFL-prospect QB's coming out in the 2010 draft?

Posted by: chasgiffen | September 17, 2009 5:27 PM | Report abuse

I heard there is a junior at Aliquipa HS, outside Pittsburgh, probable Heismann winner in 2012. We should start accumulating draft picks for the 2013 draft, so we can grab him, if he comes out early. It's never too early to plan for the draft.

Posted by: frediefritz | September 17, 2009 7:33 PM

My 3 year old nephew can already cast his spider man fishing rod 20 yards. He's got a hell of an arm, let's make sure we have the first pick in the 2027 draft

Posted by: scampbell1975 | September 17, 2009 7:40 PM | Report abuse

Now, are you also going to say Suggs should play DE. That guy is ***excellent*** with two hands down in the rush. HE IS AN ALL-PRO BEAST. Probably a potential MVP. Would you put him at DE?

I am really tired of beast this and Orapko Beast DE that ... Orapko HAD PROBLEMS in his first game. We note that Oher didn't. Does that make Oher the better "beast"? He certain is one the Skins desperately need at this point.

Let Blache coach the defense he seems to know what he is doing.

Posted by: periculum | September 17, 2009 6:07 PM |

periculum,

Get serious the position Suggs plays is technically called OLB but in reality he plays DE. 3-4 and 4-3 defenses are a little different. Suggs rushes the passer on every play Orakpo doesn't.

Posted by: Flounder21 | September 17, 2009 7:44 PM | Report abuse

My 3 year old nephew can already cast his spider man fishing rod 20 yards. He's got a hell of an arm, let's make sure we have the first pick in the 2027 draft

Posted by: scampbell1975
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Can we genetically design / manufacture one, from Montana/Brady/Manning DNA?

Brady's DNA should be easy to get, it's everywhere.

Posted by: chasgiffen | September 17, 2009 7:49 PM | Report abuse

Brady's DNA should be easy to get, it's everywhere.

Posted by: chasgiffen

LMAO!!! Reminded my of the bumper sticker that some up here might recall. "Honk if you had Steve Garvey's baby"

Posted by: zcezcest1 | September 17, 2009 7:52 PM | Report abuse

Hellz, Brady's DNA is probably found in every crime scene investigation.

Posted by: chasgiffen | September 17, 2009 7:55 PM | Report abuse

fwiw, there is only 1 team in the entire NFL that is all alone in last place in its division. Ladies and Gentlemen, your 2009 Washington Redskins.

Posted by: zcezcest1 | September 17, 2009 7:55 PM | Report abuse

fwiw, there is only 1 team in the entire NFL that is all alone in last place in its division. Ladies and Gentlemen, your 2009 Washington Redskins.

Posted by: zcezcest1 | September 17, 2009 7:55 PM

Boy thats reaching for sh!t to b!tch about.

Posted by: scampbell1975 | September 17, 2009 7:57 PM | Report abuse

Look, we've got a gift of a schedule the next month.

Posted by: Notorious_LMG | September 17, 2009 7:01 PM

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You've heard of the gift horse and where not to look?

Posted by: Chia_Pet | September 17, 2009 7:05 PM | Report abuse

The Trojan Ram?

Posted by: Notorious_LMG | September 17, 2009 8:01 PM | Report abuse

Umm new Staples commercial..

Dallas won
Eagles won
Giants won
Skins Lost

Skins last place after first game of the season...

That was easy..

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fwiw, there is only 1 team in the entire NFL that is all alone in last place in its division. Ladies and Gentlemen, your 2009 Washington Redskins.

Posted by: zcezcest1 | September 17, 2009 7:55 PM

Posted by: SkinsneedaGM | September 17, 2009 8:21 PM | Report abuse

The Trojan Ram

How did you find my real name? Are you one of my ladies?

Posted by: daggar | September 17, 2009 8:21 PM | Report abuse

fwiw, there is only 1 team in the entire NFL that is all alone in last place in its division. Ladies and Gentlemen, your 2009 Washington Redskins.

Posted by: zcezcest1 | September 17, 2009 7:55 PM

Boy thats reaching for sh!t to b!tch about.

Posted by: scampbell1975

Nice use of the '!' symbol.

there is also only 1 team all alone in 1st place ... the Colts.

Posted by: zcezcest1 | September 17, 2009 8:29 PM | Report abuse

Thank you, ! pr!de myself at the use of !'s

Posted by: scampbell1975 | September 17, 2009 8:31 PM | Report abuse

"Trend Analysis with Single Data Points: an RI Blogger Perspective"

New this month in the Journal of Irreproducible Results...

Posted by: daggar | September 17, 2009 8:35 PM | Report abuse

I'm not worried about him. By the tme the season is over, other teams will have Orakpophobia...the fear of Brian Orakpo.

Posted by: Alvin_Walton | September 17, 2009 8:36 PM | Report abuse

Ref this write up..
First time I have read a reference to Preseason speed versus Actual Regular Season speed.. It is hugely different..

Good reason Skins should of played Colt and Chase at least once with the first team up against the opposing first team Defense in the preseason. Better evaluation.

Maybe also why JC looks great in the preseason and perennial bottom third QB ranking in the regular season.

Posted by: SkinsneedaGM | September 17, 2009 8:39 PM | Report abuse

Maybe also why JC looks great in the preseason and perennial bottom third QB ranking in the regular season.

Posted by: SkinsneedaGM

Ummmm, JC hasn't really looked good in the preseason either.

Posted by: Kenbeatrizz | September 17, 2009 9:04 PM | Report abuse

BTW, regarding the previous thread, if Samuels goes down, the sky will actually be falling.

Posted by: Kenbeatrizz | September 17, 2009 9:06 PM | Report abuse

By the tme the season is over, other teams will have Orakpophobia...the fear of Brian Orakpo.

Posted by: Alvin_Walton
________________

OK, you get points for that

Posted by: chasgiffen | September 17, 2009 9:22 PM | Report abuse

Yo Kenbeatrizz, I love your handle. Ken Beatrice was the man when I was growing up. Still the most intellectual sports call in host I have ever heard and a true pioneer. His Skins and Caps breakdowns were amazing.

Anyway, just thought I'd share.

Posted by: chrislarry | September 17, 2009 9:25 PM | Report abuse

"Look, we've got a gift of a schedule the next month."

And like in the old Charlie Brown cartoon, we'll take our gift of a lump of coal, look at the three teams above us and scream, "Rats!!"

Posted by: MistaMoe | September 17, 2009 9:39 PM | Report abuse

"On Sunday in the opener, the intensity level, the speed, is at a whole different dimension he's (Orakpo) never dreamed of before."

This dream wasn't a nightmare for Percy Harvin, Mark Sanchez, or the three tackles Vinny said weren't NFL worthy.

So why is it different for a guy coming out of the Big 12 and a stellar D 1 program?

Posted by: MistaMoe | September 17, 2009 9:42 PM | Report abuse

Haynesworth had a pretty good game Sunday he stopped big Jacobs right in his tracks and ripped his helmet off preventing a first down, he tied up blockers, and did his thing, so what if he went to the sideline a few times, the man is about 350lbs and when he's out there he appears to be going all out, no way he can go more than 75% of the plays.

Zorn needs to start calling plays to win the game, not to lose the game, be more aggressive, if we're backed up in our own territory, throw the dam ball! Other teams do it. Get somebody else other than the usual Moss, ARE, Cooley, and Portis involved in this offense. Get D.Thomas, M.Kelley, F.Davis, AND M.Mitchell on the field and USE these people. Didn't the Giants use their rookie WRs Sunday? Don't other teams? I don't understand Zorn and his reluctance to get some fresh young talent on the field for this team?

Why don't we have a change of pace Back? Other successful teams do. Aldridge seemed fumble prone but dam, he was fast and explosive, so was Dorsey. Now once again this team doesn't have that.

Is there some reason why our corners can't jam receivers at the line and not just let them run their routes unabated? Stop playing off the receivers a country mile and disrupt their routes. Also, tackle like you learned in rec league, wrap up.

Can we blitz some more?

Will somebody please just let Orakpo play DE?

We lost to a good team last week, but other than their defensive front, NY is a little overated and we could have beat them. Having said that, this team needs to step up, man up, focus, and come out and play aggressive, DISCIPLINED, violent football. Coach Zorn needs to "Let It Whip", and the players need to prove to the fans that their not, "soft, and overpaid". The Rams are ripe to receive #ss whipping number two, if we fail to give it to them Sunday, lord help us, to lose to these bums at home 2 years in a row, would be about as low as this franchise can go.

Posted by: 72Redskins | September 17, 2009 9:43 PM | Report abuse

"I would love to draft Taylor Mays out of USC to play alongside Landry."

No.

We don't need to add another 1st round pick defensive player, especially a safety.

How 'bout a speedy running back who can return kicks/punts and catch the ball like CJ Spiller?

How 'bout two beefy offensive tackle types?

How 'bout taking a top quarterback if JC this season flops like a Jay-Z album?

The skins are a team that needs to shed itself of the offensive debris of coaches who came in and wanted guys who'd, "..make my system work..".

We got run blocking o-linemen on a roster full of young pass catchers?

Wazzup wid dat?

Well, some of those guys need to be gone, they've outlived their doubly re-worked contract.

And if Zorn doesn't get the right mix of pieces to make his system work, he'll be gone, too.

And there's no safety in that.

Posted by: MistaMoe | September 17, 2009 9:51 PM | Report abuse

This team not only needs to win Sunday, but win big, just have an old fashioned, "field day". To struggle and just get a "W" by winning, 10-7, 17-14, 21-17,... will not be enough. It's ashame it's been a million years since we've scored 30 or more points on somebody, and just mopped up the field with their a##. If Seatlle can shut these bums out 28-0, surely we can do likewise.

Posted by: 72Redskins | September 17, 2009 10:00 PM | Report abuse

forgot he never had to compete for his job..
thanks..
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Maybe also why JC looks great in the preseason and perennial bottom third QB ranking in the regular season.

Posted by: SkinsneedaGM

Ummmm, JC hasn't really looked good in the preseason either.

Posted by: Kenbeatrizz | September 17, 2009 9:04 PM

Posted by: SkinsneedaGM | September 17, 2009 10:11 PM | Report abuse

Landry is not very fast, plus he hasn't lit anyone up in a while...........Oh and forgot, he is good for at least 1 15 yard penalty a game. So, at this point, he hasn't done very much in his tenure here if you ask.

Posted by: joeboggs | September 17, 2009 10:56 PM | Report abuse

Yo Kenbeatrizz, I love your handle. Ken Beatrice was the man when I was growing up. Still the most intellectual sports call in host I have ever heard and a true pioneer. His Skins and Caps breakdowns were amazing.

Anyway, just thought I'd share.

Posted by: chrislarry

Thanks for the shout out cL. Ken was definitely the man. Not too many people recognize the handle these days.

Posted by: Kenbeatrizz | September 17, 2009 10:56 PM | Report abuse

did anyone else notice the number of play stopping injuries the Giants had in our game. If this is a sign of conditioning on our part, atleast we won something for a change. I will be rooting for Dallas this week against the Giants because I think they are the weaker team and will help us more (did I just say that?). There is a good chance, though slim, that Philly will fall to N Orleans this weak. That will make things more manageable for us. Barring injuries, we should be 5-1 when we face McNabb & company. Though I have no faith in Zorn's play calling, I feel our D will really get after STL this week. C Rogers needs to be running pass routes as a reciever as extra work in prep for his CB position. Hopefully we can come out of week 2 with no major injuries again. HAIL SKINS!

Posted by: jenksredskins | September 17, 2009 11:55 PM | Report abuse

Hats off to 72Redskins for his succinct analysis of the 2009 Washington Redskins. Way to hit the nail on the head!

I've also been thinking about my blind devotion / puppy love for Coach Jim Zen and I realize how misguided, how stooopid I've become.

Maybe it was his spikey hair, his charming exuberance, the fanciful games of dodge ball in training camp, that he's a former QB from the Pacific NW, that he seems like he would be a good teacher, a mentor; everything I always wanted as kid growing up, but never got.

but I just don't know anymore about Jim Zen.

It's like all this talk about how much he stinks has gotten to me: cL and RedDMV and all you other rain on my parade types. Plus, there's some truth to it, about the craptastic play calling and all.

What you say 72, about going balls out, makes sense to me. Put the kids in there and throw them the darn ball. Better to go out with a blaze than to go out with a whimper.

And I apologize to Jason Reid for snapping at him, telling him to take the attitude back to So. Cal and to grab an IN n Out burger while he's there.

Reid, you're all right. Thanks for the hard work.

And I'm sorry to anyone else I've offended on da blog; Periculum, peaceful2008, whomever. I know you're all asleep, tucked into your little beds, but hopefully you read this in the morning.

Sincerely,
Chia Pet

HTTR and HTTB

Posted by: Chia_Pet | September 18, 2009 12:15 AM | Report abuse

Why play Orakpo at OLB?

On the Manning interception, Orakpo was lunging straight into his face. The play was lined up with Daniels, Griffin, Haynesworth, and Carter on the line -- and Orakpo matched up one-on-one with TE Kevin Boss coming off the edge.

I'll take that match up any day of the week.

Posted by: psps23 | September 18, 2009 12:35 AM | Report abuse

I've seen several posts this week commenting on Landry not being productive.

Criticism about the late hit is fair, but he also made quite a few good plays against the run on Sunday, coming up to make stops.

Heck, I was even talking with my dad about it during one of our phone calls during the game.

Posted by: freakzilla | September 18, 2009 12:50 AM | Report abuse

I've said it b4 and i'll say it again if we can land Snead or Colt this West Coast Offense would fly I'm praying for Snead, and if we land Taylor Mays I could see Blache playing him at the WLB then moving Rocky and Orakpo to position better suited for their skill sets,and b4 anyone says why not jus take a LB which LB in the college football has legit 4.4 possibly 4.3 speed at 230 pds and can cover pass catching TE's and slot WR with no safety help and hold their own also why keep a guy like Horton off the field when u could possibly have Mays,Landry and Horton on the field with Carlos and D.Hall with our D-Line that would be killer!!!!

Posted by: robbkels | September 18, 2009 12:57 AM | Report abuse

I recall this board had a discussion after the opening game beat down last year ... and we were looking for right spots in an ugly game. I think Alex and myself noticed that Campbell seemed lots more effective when he lined up in the shotgun.

Well, here we are, a year later, and its the same darn discussion. Boswell already ran the stats on it and the 20 or so plays that were run out of the shotgun were incredibly effective. The 30 plays not in the shotgun were very mediocre.

Heck, if the people on this board can figure it out, why can't Jom Zorn?

Posted by: zcezcest1 | September 18, 2009 2:00 AM | Report abuse

Heck, if the people on this board can figure it out, why can't Jom Zorn?

Posted by: zcezcest1 | September 18, 2009 2:00 AM


Because we just want our team to win...he's got his ego all tied into it.

Posted by: brownwood26 | September 18, 2009 5:58 AM | Report abuse

Orakpo was playing in a two point stance off the line of scrimmage. Which everyone but T_E knows isn't where he's best utilized. He may get LB down pat, but he won't have the same impact there that he would at DE.

Posted by: brownwood26 | September 17, 2009 5:48 AM


Blache said .... "Brian's going to have a great rookie season. He'll be better this week because he's been baptized through the fire."

By Jason Reid | September 17, 2009; 4:12 PM ET


Well, maybe not the only one, Brownwood. Greg Blache agrees he's going to have a big year. You're ready to put the guy on the practice squad after his first game and give him some "training wheels," but Blache and I are willing to let him get up to speed in the NFL.

Posted by: talent_evaluator | September 18, 2009 6:16 AM | Report abuse

Greg Blache agrees he's going to have a big year. You're ready to put the guy on the practice squad after his first game and give him some "training wheels," but Blache and I are willing to let him get up to speed in the NFL.

Posted by: talent_evaluator | September 18, 2009 6:16 AM


Yeah, NFL coaches are certainly the most honest people in the world.

(eye roll)

I know it doesn't make for the compelling argument you're looking for, but I clearly said "he may get LB down pat, but he won't have the same impact there that he would at DE."

Posted by: brownwood26 | September 18, 2009 6:45 AM | Report abuse

Just read Wise's column about the team name...I can't wait for the Supreme Court to throw this thing out on its @ss once and for all. Anybody who actually looked up the history of the word 'Redskin' would know its not even close to a derrogatory term.

Posted by: brownwood26 | September 18, 2009 6:52 AM | Report abuse

Yeah, NFL coaches are certainly the most honest people in the world.

Posted by: brownwood26 | September 18, 2009 6:45 AM

What an absurd statement. The most honest -- and best informed -- are always the early morning bloggers.

Posted by: talent_evaluator | September 18, 2009 7:29 AM | Report abuse

beep beep

Posted by: talent_evaluator | September 18, 2009 7:47 AM | Report abuse

What an absurd statement. The most honest -- and best informed -- are always the early morning bloggers.

Posted by: talent_evaluator | September 18, 2009 7:29 AM


Don't be an idiot...if Orakpo was a total bum, do you think Blache would say anything different from what he said above? He's paid to tell the media and the fans what they want to hear. All I'm saying is taking an NFL coach completely at his word is naive at best, stupid at worst.

Posted by: brownwood26 | September 18, 2009 7:48 AM | Report abuse

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