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Portis officially ruled out; Smith may go on IR (updated)

Top running back Clinton Portis (concussion) will not play against the Denver Broncos on Sunday at FedEx Field, Coach Jim Zorn said today after practice.

"We kept Clinton at home just to get rest," Zorn said. "That was kind of the doctor's orders."

With Portis ruled out this week, Ladell Betts is expected to start against Denver. But Betts, who provided a spark after Portis was injured against Atlanta, left practice early because of an ankle injury.

"Ladell Betts tried to go early," Zorn said. "Really couldn't finish. His ankle's still getting better."

Running backs Rock Cartwright and Quinton Ganther are behind Betts, who rushed for 70 yards (he had a 4.7-yard average) and a touchdown against the Falcons. "I suspect he's going to go" against Denver, Zorn said of Betts. "He was actually looking like he was going to be able to go [in practice] and we just pulled back on him to give him another day."

Punter Hunter Smith (groin) could be placed on the season-ending injured-reserve list if he struggles Friday punting during practice.

"Well, we're going to try to punt him tomorrow," Zorn said. "Just try to go full go and see what he could do; see if his leg can hold up. If it does, great. If it can't, then we'll decide what we need to do then.

"Well, yeah, it's a possibility [going on injured reserve] if he continues re-aggravate this thing. That's why I'm trying to give it as much [time] as I can. But tomorrow is kind of an important day."

Presumably referring to the fracas last Sunday against the Falcons, DeAngelo Hall, via Twitter, says: Just want to Thank the fans, my teammates and Organization for supporting me! Ive tried to keep my nose clean n play the game the right way.

Lessons from the Ravens, Falcons and Dolphins

Many readers have emailed me requesting copies of a story I wrote in the offseason with Jason La Canfora before he bolted for the big bucks and bright lights of the NFL Network. We took a detailed look at three franchises that turned things around in one year and compared and contrasted the Redskins' situation. With the Redskins struggling in a 2-6 season and the potential for major change in the offseason, I guess a lot of you thought our story still has relevance.

By Jason Reid  |  November 12, 2009; 3:05 PM ET
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DeAngelo Hall, via Twitter, says: Just want to Thank the fans, my teammates and Organization for supporting me! Ive tried to keep my nose clean n play the game the right way.

By Jason Reid | November 12, 2009; 3:05 PM ET

I'm behind you all the way. You drew the Falcons coaches into fines and didn't even draw one yourself. You the man!

Posted by: League-Source | November 12, 2009 3:33 PM | Report abuse

I think one of the big problems with having a coach who is always on the hot seat is that he is afraid to play any of the untested guys, e.g Barnes. He's so worried about winning two or three games to save his job that he will only put out vets. If the coach was confident he would be returning next year, he could accept that this is a transition year and start DT and MK at wideouts and puts Barnes in their too, maybe HB Blades at linebacker and Jarmon and Orakpo at ends.

Snyder is worst thing to happen to DC since the War of 1812.

Posted by: Salinas1 | November 12, 2009 3:36 PM | Report abuse

ls, you're welcome and I think that did answer your question....7 starters out of 32 teams right?

My point....I think CR was a reach. During draft coverage, he wasn't rated that high by Kiper or Mayock.

Time will tell.

Posted by: ksquare | November 12, 2009 3:37 PM | Report abuse

For all that crap people like to throw at Hall, how much of it is really legit?

* T.O. did spit in his face, right?

* The thing with Steve Smith was simply about him losing his cool, that was something that was going both ways. Every knows about Steve Smith and his d-baggery.

* Bobby Petrino? Please, that dude bailed on his own team, and many of the players said that he did something a lot of them would have done as well.

* Oakland? Next question.

Posted by: RedDMV | November 12, 2009 3:38 PM | Report abuse

"We knew we were getting older on the offensive line, no question about it," said Eric DeCosta, the Ravens' director of college scouting. "But instead of making wholesale changes in one year, we decided we were going to address it through several drafts. Our feeling as an organization is that you win up front on the offensive and defensive lines, and in general we'll always address those positions in the draft.

Forget QB, forget Spiller, already have 5 young (under 30) defensive lineman, they need to do this now. And then continue to draft lineman every single draft. No more prima-donna quarterbacks, receivers, and running backs. Lineman.
However, Taylor Mays, may be a horse of a different color ...

Posted by: periculum | November 12, 2009 3:39 PM | Report abuse

However, Taylor Mays, may be a horse of a different color ...
Posted by: periculum | November 12, 2009 3:39 PM | Report abuse

Denim Blue?....oh wait that was Billy Mays

Posted by: RedBaron2008 | November 12, 2009 3:45 PM | Report abuse

For all that crap people like to throw at Hall, how much of it is really legit?

* T.O. did spit in his face, right?

* The thing with Steve Smith was simply about him losing his cool, that was something that was going both ways. Every knows about Steve Smith and his d-baggery.

* Bobby Petrino? Please, that dude bailed on his own team, and many of the players said that he did something a lot of them would have done as well.

* Oakland? Next question.

Posted by: RedDMV | November 12, 2009 3:38 PM | Report abuse

Yeah I pretty much agree with that. Just wish the guy could tackle. Maybe LL should stay away from him -- he might be contagious...

Posted by: mattylight | November 12, 2009 3:45 PM | Report abuse

Just thought I'd drop by because the WaPo blogosphere's resident dbag Poopy McPoop is over on the DC Sports Bog accusing me of not showing my face over at RI anymore. Nevermind the fact I posted a comment or two here in the past week, and responded at length to his 48 hour copy/paste binge in the wake of the Chiefs loss.

Of course, when I drop in here there happens to be a reference to JLC's reporting in JReid's most recent entry. Ugh...

Anywho....prediction time:

Redskins are going to win out and be 10-6 and qualify for the playoffs! (Ok, everyone needed a laugh)

Posted by: Barno1 | November 12, 2009 3:45 PM | Report abuse

However, Taylor Mays, may be a horse of a different color ...

Posted by: periculum | November 12, 2009 3:39 PM | Report abuse

Would be nice to get someone in the mold of ST playing free safety for us, but using 3 top 10 picks on safeties in 6 drafts is ridiculous.

Posted by: PortisPocketsStr8 | November 12, 2009 3:48 PM | Report abuse

There's an interesting 3 part series on PBS Nova about how the humanity experiment started. Many of the human attributes we have today were present when the species first emerged. Even back then, dudes who couldn't checkdown real quick to identify where the lions were blitzing from got eaten alive.

Posted by: SpecialOps | November 12, 2009 3:02 AM |

Good one, dude. BTW, how's things in your part of the ops world? Ever since W left office, govt contracts for black bag jobs have disappeared quicker than a fart in a hurricane. Heh, heh.

Posted by: BlackBagOps | November 12, 2009 3:35 AM |

Ops dudes posting on RI ... Wow ... Just Wow ... UFB ... FUB ... Just Wow ... Wow

Posted by: ElDrano | November 12, 2009 3:48 PM | Report abuse

but using 3 top 10 picks on safeties in 6 drafts is ridiculous.

Posted by: PortisPocketsStr8 | November 12, 2009 3:48 PM |

It is also ridiculum too.

Posted by: ElDrano | November 12, 2009 3:52 PM | Report abuse

Posted by: RedDMV | November 12, 2009 3:38 PM | Report abuse

Don't forget the game for the Falcons where he got 60 yards of personal fouls called on himself on one play for running his mouth and taunting.

And don't forget his stellar VT career with lots of similar personal fouls and ejections. I have a family member who played with him at VT and said he was the biggest horse's you know what in the world and his own teammates can't stand him....fairly evident I would say by the long delay in any of his current teammates coming to help him on Sunday.

Posted by: zjfr2 | November 12, 2009 3:52 PM | Report abuse

Cindy, we already know Portis isn't playing but there's still not a peep on Betts, who apparently didn't practice yesterday because of an ankle. Is it just me or is an injury to the now-starting tailback more newsworthy than some irrelevant story on Jason Taylor?

Posted by: RambleOn | November 12, 2009 3:52 PM | Report abuse

JLC took off for the "big bucks and bright lights?"

Isn't the NFL Network still only available in about 35% of US households?

I know why Adam Schefter left NFL Network for ESPN. He's now on a network that is available from EVERY cable/satellite provider.

I just wish Time-Warner would settle their differences with NFL Network. I'd like to watch tonight's game.

Posted by: MrRedskin21 | November 12, 2009 3:53 PM | Report abuse

please quit it with the Taylor Mays talk, he has been getting abused in pass coverage the last several weeks and is playing poorly. Physically talented? Yes! but no way should we be spending high draft picks on safeties, especially when we have living proof on our roster already that its not worth it. Look around the league and name me the safeties you'd spend a high pick to get right now:

Adrian Wilson
Troy
Ed Reed
Bob Sanders
maybe Dawkins

and that's it, its not worth a top 5 pick, truly elite game changers at that position are like unicorns and we need soooooooooooo much more before we need to worry about getting a safety.

Posted by: zjfr2 | November 12, 2009 3:56 PM | Report abuse

Presumably referring to the fracas last Sunday against the Falcons, DeAngelo Hall, via Twitter, says: Just want to Thank the fans, my teammates and Organization for supporting me! Ive tried to keep my nose clean n play the game the right way. - D. Hall

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Maybe he should try to keep his nose less clean and start tackling guys in the dirt. I like D. Hall but the guy's tackling is horrible.

Posted by: RedSkinHead | November 12, 2009 3:57 PM | Report abuse

I guess a lot of you thought our story still has relevance.

By Jason Reid | November 12, 2009; 3:05 PM ET

And a lot of us don't. Notice your butthole buddy now has his ugly mug plashed on the lead NFL.com screen along with the other losers that pose as "expert analysts" for the website. Fits right in with all the other suckjobs over there.

Posted by: ElDrano | November 12, 2009 3:57 PM | Report abuse

RedD,

Me likey Hall. Don't want him to tackle, tho... hehe.

Posted by: DikShuttle | November 12, 2009 3:59 PM | Report abuse

"Don't forget the game for the Falcons where he got 60 yards of personal fouls called on himself on one play for running his mouth and taunting."

I mentioned this. This was when the Falcons were playing the Panthers and Steve Smith was being Steve Smith -- a straight up a-hole.

"And don't forget his stellar VT career with lots of similar personal fouls and ejections."

And while I don't think your family members have incorrect info on Hall's career at Tech, is it possible you can provide some actual occurrences?

Posted by: RedDMV | November 12, 2009 4:00 PM | Report abuse

Clinton Portis won't play this week because of his concussion. He still has double vision, which really scares him as he now has two practice fields to avoid...

Posted by: RedSkinHead | November 12, 2009 4:08 PM | Report abuse

Isn't the NFL Network still only available in about 35% of US households? I just wish Time-Warner would settle their differences with NFL Network. I'd like to watch tonight's game.

Posted by: MrRedskin21 | November 12, 2009 3:53 PM |

Comcast settled with them recently and they are the biggest cable co so NFL Net is avail on basic tier in more places than not. Comcast waited to settle with them until they could fold the NFL Net $$$ charge into their annual dick the customer rate increase. But Comcast has to be careful. They may be the biggest cable co but they have Verizon with FIOS, DirecTV and Cablevision (NYC) breathing down their neck.

Posted by: ElDrano | November 12, 2009 4:11 PM | Report abuse

Cindy, we already know Portis isn't playing but there's still not a peep on Betts, who apparently didn't practice yesterday because of an ankle. Is it just me or is an injury to the now-starting tailback more newsworthy than some irrelevant story on Jason Taylor?

Posted by: RambleOn | November 12, 2009 3:52 PM

Cindy heard you. It's in the update above.

Posted by: League-Source | November 12, 2009 4:12 PM | Report abuse

However, Taylor Mays, may be a horse of a different color ...
Posted by: periculum | November 12, 2009 3:39 PM | Report abuse


I got blog slapped for this last night but I stand by it. Not saying they should take him but I woudn't hate it if they did.

Posted by: Original_etrod | November 12, 2009 4:12 PM | Report abuse

good god this team has the worst luck with punters/kickers...

Posted by: The_Spear | November 12, 2009 4:14 PM | Report abuse

"Well, we're going to try to punt him tomorrow," Zorn said.

Oooohhh, would love to see how far out Smith would land. I'm guessing about 7 yards...

Posted by: nojunk4me | November 12, 2009 4:16 PM | Report abuse

Cindy heard you. It's in the update above.

Posted by: League-Source | November 12, 2009 4:12 PM


Cindy -- you still listening? You'd promised me an incentive payment of $350 if I hit 800 posts in October. My count was 914. Please send the check soon, or I may have to step back and let talent_evaluator post again.

Posted by: League-Source | November 12, 2009 4:16 PM | Report abuse

FWIW, i've had NFL Network on Comcast since last season; on the other hand, Comcast took over Time Warner here, and I think the NFL Network was grandfathered in.

Posted by: JohnDinHouston | November 12, 2009 4:16 PM | Report abuse

Hit refresh...thanks!

Posted by: Cindy Boren | November 12, 2009 4:17 PM | Report abuse

So, with 26 out, maybe we can get a running game going...

Posted by: AWWNats | November 12, 2009 4:18 PM | Report abuse

the WaPo blogosphere's resident dbag Poopy McPoop is over on the DC Sports Bog accusing me of not showing my face over at RI anymore.

Posted by: Barno1 | November 12, 2009 3:45 PM

Sheesh, what a whiner. Go back over there and take you medicine like a man.

Posted by: League-Source | November 12, 2009 4:19 PM | Report abuse

Well, we're going to try to punt him tomorrow," Zorn said.

Oooohhh, would love to see how far out Smith would land. I'm guessing about 7 yards...

Posted by: nojunk4me | November 12, 2009 4:16 PM | Report abuse


..Well, with your bad knee, Jim, you shouldn't try to punt anybody.

It's true.

Posted by: Original_etrod | November 12, 2009 4:20 PM | Report abuse

"Well, we're going to try to punt him tomorrow," Zorn said.

Oooohhh, would love to see how far out Smith would land. I'm guessing about 7 yards...

Posted by: nojunk4me | November 12, 2009 4:16 PM | Report abuse

I could see that as a great rebok commercial.

Video of Zorn saying "we are gonna try and punt him tomorrow"
Cut to a nervous closup of Smith.
Zorn walks up and pats him on the shoulder.
"Ready?"
Smith puts on goggles. A giant wood trebuche looking thing is behind him. It has start turning and we see a big shoe come down and kick Smith. Smith goes flying, and the trebuche settles and we see the shoe with the logo on it.

Posted by: alex35332 | November 12, 2009 4:22 PM | Report abuse

theCork

"Call me wacky, but I have a feeling that on most pro teams--admittedly the 'skins are excepted in that area--1st, 2nd and 3rd rounders should play their rookie year."

There is applause following this post.

Posted by: MistaMoe | November 12, 2009 4:22 PM | Report abuse

step back and let talent_evaluator post again....

NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

Posted by: BeantownGreg1 | November 12, 2009 4:25 PM | Report abuse

Alex is directing YouTube shorts. hehe.

Posted by: DikShuttle | November 12, 2009 4:25 PM | Report abuse

meep meep

Posted by: Curzon417 | November 12, 2009 4:25 PM | Report abuse

beeps UFB with this guy not being able to make a decision...

Posted by: BeantownGreg1 | November 12, 2009 4:27 PM | Report abuse

Zorn really has a knack for saying stupid things. Is there like a Dan Quayle aware for something like that? I mean he says he's going to punt his punter this week. Last week, he said he wasn't going to put him down quite yet. There's always the maroon and black comment, and then the unforgettable "stay medium". It's no wonder he can't motivate his team - they probably can't understand what he's saying most of the time...

Posted by: RedSkinHead | November 12, 2009 4:28 PM | Report abuse

"Don't forget the game for the Falcons where he got 60 yards of personal fouls called on himself on one play for running his mouth and taunting."

I mentioned this. This was when the Falcons were playing the Panthers and Steve Smith was being Steve Smith -- a straight up a-hole.

"And don't forget his stellar VT career with lots of similar personal fouls and ejections."

And while I don't think your family members have incorrect info on Hall's career at Tech, is it possible you can provide some actual occurrences?

Posted by: RedDMV | November 12, 2009 4:00 PM | Report abuse

sophomore year he was "benched" in the middle of the year for poor attitude and then returned to the starting lineup after the formidable Temple Owls game....

junior year he threw a punch on the sidelines and got ejected in the Miami game and was suspended for a half against pittsburgh

In case you don't believe me:

Byline: Omar Kelly

CORAL GABLES, Fla. _ Miami will be without its top cornerback for Saturday's game against Tennessee.

Antrel Rolle, a junior who has started 20 games in two years, was suspended Monday for one game by the Big East for fighting with Virginia Tech's DeAngelo Hall in the Hokies' 31-7 win Saturday.

Hall, who appeared to have initiated the fight in the final five minutes, was also suspended, but only for half of the Hokies' game against Pittsburgh on Saturday.

Hall was in the game at the time of the incident, which took place on Miami's sideline. Because Rolle was on the sideline he received a full game's suspension, which ...

Posted by: zjfr2 | November 12, 2009 4:29 PM | Report abuse

Portis Should just hang it up for the season. The guy has been inefective for the most part. Watch Betts have a good day against Denver.

Posted by: sjp879 | November 12, 2009 4:37 PM | Report abuse

"Look around the league and name me the safeties you'd spend a high pick to get right now:

Adrian Wilson
Troy
Ed Reed
Bob Sanders
maybe Dawkins

and that's it, its not worth a top 5 pick, truly elite game changers at that position are like unicorns and we need soooooooooooo much more before we need to worry about getting a safety.

Posted by: zjfr2"


Not that I want a safety in the first round (which I don't), but your evidence here is not helping your argument. Every one of these safeties was a first round draft pick. Two have won defensive player of the year. Two of them have won Super Bowls (one of them twice), four of them have been to Super Bowls, and four of them have played on perennial top 10 defenses for nearly their entire career. In fact, there isn't a single perennial top tier defense this decade that has NOT had a safety of their caliber on the field (the Bucs had John Lynch in his prime, we had Sean Taylor, and the Bears' best seasons came when Mike Brown was healthy).

Basically, by listing these players, you're saying you have to spend a first round draft selection to get a guy of their caliber, and you need a guy of their caliber at the safety spot to be a truly elite defense.

So maybe it isn't that dumb to invest heavily at the safety spot.

But I agree with, there are way too many needs for the Skins to worry about that right now.

Posted by: psps23 | November 12, 2009 4:40 PM | Report abuse

Can Taylor Mays play OL?

Just asking.

Signed,

Chris, Ret.

Posted by: ElYeah | November 12, 2009 4:43 PM | Report abuse

"Well, we're going to try to punt him tomorrow," Zorn said.

Oooohhh, would love to see how far out Smith would land. I'm guessing about 7 yards...

Posted by: nojunk4me | November 12, 2009 4:16 PM | Report abuse
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The end result would be Zorn's foot up the players' @$$...which coincidentally, will be the first time that has happened this season despite all the horrid play.

Posted by: walkdwalk | November 12, 2009 5:22 PM | Report abuse

what a beating the Skin's are going to take.

Posted by: affirmativeactionpresident | November 12, 2009 5:40 PM | Report abuse

I just love how all these bloggers can sit there and criticize the writers for telling you the truth. Jason LaCanfora knew exactly what he was talking about. He had no negative angle. He just reported what was going on. Jason Reid does the same thing, why would you put a negative spin on a story for no reason. What do they get out of it. The bloggers get upset when people tell you things you don't want to hear. It's ridiculous. You want to listen to a bunch of spin watch Redskins Nation or go to the Skins website. Now the positive spin they put on everything is enough to make you vomit. People get your heads together. The team is a disaster and they have brought all this on to themselves. With a complete overhaul its going to take 2 - 3 seasons minimum to turn this thing around if we are lucky. I will be there to support a rebuilding team with fresh, exciting, young players, new staff, and front office.

Posted by: natsfan007 | November 12, 2009 5:55 PM | Report abuse

Daniel Snyder gives me a case of the Hebe Jeebies! Yikes!

Shalom Beeeeeeeeeeeeeeyotch!

Posted by: ElBigChroizo | November 12, 2009 6:05 PM | Report abuse

ok so when the season ends there should word of the day should be fire. so fire VC. the next day the word of the day should be trade. as skin fans we all know who they should trade need i say more.

Posted by: MGDMaster21 | November 12, 2009 8:25 PM | Report abuse

Portis is hurt! Best news all year! IR or release, please!

Posted by: iubiquity | November 12, 2009 9:30 PM | Report abuse

One comment and one question for everyone. Regarding the safeties previously discussed, I believe three have won Super Bowls Troy P (2 with Steelers), Sanders (1 with Colts) and E Reed (1 with Ravens), and I believe that both A Wilson (Cardinals) and Dawkins (Eagles) have both been to the Super Bowl but lost.

Please correct me if I am wrong as I did not go back to check whether they were on the field for the Super Bowl but believe that they were with their respective teams during their Super Bowl seasons.

Question for Redskin fans re: the running back situation; I do not see Marcus Mason on the roster? I recall seeing him getting a few carries early in the season, but is he still on the team or is he gone? thx

Posted by: Terminator3 | November 12, 2009 11:48 PM | Report abuse

"We knew we were getting older on the offensive line, no question about it," said Eric DeCosta, the Ravens' director of college scouting. "But instead of making wholesale changes in one year, we decided we were going to address it through several drafts. Our feeling as an organization is that you win up front on the offensive and defensive lines, and in general we'll always address those positions in the draft.

Wow I would give my left nut to have this guy making the decisions for our team!

Posted by: dwninit71 | November 13, 2009 2:38 PM | Report abuse

Go Broncos !!!

Skins get a beat down today... get ready !

Here it comes ..... 48 - 10 Bronco Victory

Posted by: truthwilltell | November 15, 2009 10:12 AM | Report abuse

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