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Proceeding cautiously, Redskins want Portis back

As expected, running back Clinton Portis will sit out his third consecutive game because of lingering affects from a concussion, but he still could return this season, Coach Jim Zorn said today.

"Clinton Portis is not going to play again for another week," Zorn said. "He is going to have another exam on Monday after our game against New Orleans. ... He may practice some this week, but he's going to be out for the game. We're going to try to get him going and try to see if we can get those symptoms to not continue to reoccur."

Portis has not played since suffering the concussion in the Nov. 8 loss to the Atlanta Falcons. As of last week, the eight-year veteran had continued to experience blurry vision. The Redskins at 3-8 and in last place in the NFC East. Even if Portis returns to full strength before the season ends, I can't see a compelling reason to bring him back for the final few games.

Zorn views the situation differently.

"He's a guy we want. We want him to participate. We want him to be a Redskin player. Absolutely," Zorn said. "And if he's healthy, he's gonna wanna go. And we're going to want him to go.

"So, yeah, I think all those things are compelling. Now, we're going to make sure his head's right. But that's why we're talking the precautions we are."

By Jason Reid  |  November 30, 2009; 1:57 PM ET
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The most compelling reason the Skins have for bringing Portis back, when the team is 3-8, is to showcase him for a blockbuster Trade.
We can only hope.

Posted by: SkinsneedaGM | November 30, 2009 2:15 PM | Report abuse

guess this means he won't practice either...wait

Posted by: drewredskins | November 30, 2009 2:16 PM | Report abuse

Ugh.

You know how politicians get up and say stuff that everyone knows are outright lies, but they basically crap-feed us the opposite b/c it is supposedly the "right" thing to say?

JZ has just given us a healthy serving of that crap-feed in football-style.

The truth is this:

Clinton Tortoise has had an atrocious season and he's not bringing much of anything to the team. He's not a lockerroom leader or a force for unity. He's not been productive on the field.

He most likely doesn't want to play. He knows the season is lost and he's not trying to get more banged up for a lost cause.

Not only does JZ probably not like CP personally, but JZ knows that CP has brought little-to-nothing to the offense this year and would like to run with some different guys.

Somehow, all of that has become:

"He's a guy we want. We want him to participate. We want him to be a Redskin player. Absolutely," Zorn said. "And if he's healthy, he's gonna wanna go. And we're going to want him to go."

Posted by: p1funk | November 30, 2009 2:22 PM | Report abuse

The most compelling reason the Skins have for bringing Portis back, when the team is 3-8, is to showcase him for a blockbuster Trade.
We can only hope.

Posted by: SkinsneedaGM | November 30, 2009 2:15 PM

How great would that be?? But unfortunately, he can't be used as a single player or even really the centerpiece of a blockbuster trade. Maybe I'm wrong. But he hasn't looked good at all this year. He looked great and everyone loved his blocking last year. I hope some team does decide they want him bad enough. But I doubt it. Speaking of trades. I do agree with what others on RI have said, that it may be smart to go ahead and trade Cooley while we can get most value for him. I think Fred Davis is going to be pretty good. I know Cooley is great on and off the field. But we need so much more to be good again. Davis is not a big drop-off from Cooley.

Posted by: johntaylor2 | November 30, 2009 2:24 PM | Report abuse

Clinton Portis doesn't want to play. The team is much better without him.

Posted by: richard_cranium | November 30, 2009 2:26 PM | Report abuse

j reid can't see a compelling reason to bring Portis back?? How about it's his job and he's a part of a team. If he's healthy he plays.

having him out there helps everyone else who has to be out there.

just more evidence that j reid doesn't get it.

Posted by: pabrian2003 | November 30, 2009 2:27 PM | Report abuse

Posted by: Original_etrod
Why the fascination with a high draft pick? This FO will only screw it up!

Posted by: 1965skinsfan | November 30, 2009 1:52 PM | Report abuse


It's not just the high draft pick.

Going 3-13 gives us the best chance of having Vinny & Zorn canned and hopefully getting someone else in there who might be able to right the ship.

If we go 3-13 then maybe the Dan Snyder won't think we're just a player or 2 away and realize that his franchise needs an overhaul.

Sorry, but right now losing is the best thing that can happen to this team.

Posted by: Original_etrod | November 30, 2009 2:28 PM | Report abuse

Why does JZ continue to hold roster spots for people who should just be IR'd and put away for the rest of the season?

I suspect it may have something to do with team finances -- in that Dan Snidely has already sunk several million guaranteed into CP26 and CC47 -- and must therefore pay them regardless of what happens elsewhere. And then if he also brings in replacement players, he would have to pay them too...


Posted by: Vic1 | November 30, 2009 2:28 PM | Report abuse

seems like Jim Zorn has a tough decision.

On one hand he doesn't like CP so he won't want him to get too many carries.

On the other he won't want to play Mason or Ganther because they are young and giggled one time.

In the end Zorn will give Rock majority of carries.

ARE will keep returning punts and Cooley won't be IR'd

Posted by: PortisPocketsStr8 | November 30, 2009 2:30 PM | Report abuse

How bout Portis and Montgomery to get our 3rd roud pick back?

1st round - Okung
2nd - Mike Johnson (G, Bama)
3rd - Center/RB

Unless we can find a way to land Spiller AND Okung, in which case Ill shart myself with happiness.

Posted by: Rypien11 | November 30, 2009 2:32 PM | Report abuse

vic, good points, not to mention that the greatest financial gains the team has are through jersey sales....its bad times indeed....

Posted by: BeantownGreg1 | November 30, 2009 2:33 PM | Report abuse

The most compelling reason the Skins have for bringing Portis back, when the team is 3-8, is to showcase him for a blockbuster Trade.
We can only hope.

Posted by: SkinsneedaGM | November 30, 2009 2:15 PM | Report abuse


We might as well hope for Stephon Heyer to wake up tomorrow morning as Joe Jacoby.

Clinton Portis is UNTRADEABLE.

Not only is he showing all the wear-tear signs of being broken down on the wrong side of his playing career, but he is due $7mill next season. No team is going to fit that number under their cap.

The only team that would be stupid enough to entertain such a "trade" for a largely washed-up, selfish, ex-star who used to be productive and grab headlines is the Washington Redskins...and we already have him.


Posted by: p1funk | November 30, 2009 2:33 PM | Report abuse

Sorry, but right now losing is the best thing that can happen to this team.

Posted by: Original_etrod | November 30, 2009 2:28 PM | Report abuse


Are you just realizing this?

I thought that was clearly apparent when we were 2-4 against the league's worst teams.

Posted by: p1funk | November 30, 2009 2:35 PM | Report abuse

With Cooley and Jarmin out, maybe Skolnitsky will get his chance to play. I like that name Skol-nit-sky. Maybe he can get a patented move on the field that we can call the Skolnitsky. It'll have to be a nasty move - like ripping someone's jock off. I can hear the commentator now..."Oh my goodness, he just pulled a Skolnitsy on the quarterback. He ain't getting up from that."

Seriously though, is this injury thing just getting crazy or what? One wonders if it has anything to do with the losing season. Do guys try to do something beyond their abilities and get hurt? Well, when the end of the season house cleaning begins, I think the trainer should get the boot as well...

Posted by: RedSkinHead | November 30, 2009 2:35 PM

Posted by: RedSkinHead | November 30, 2009 2:37 PM | Report abuse

Are you just realizing this?

I thought that was clearly apparent when we were 2-4 against the league's worst teams.

Posted by: p1funk | November 30, 2009 2:35 PM | Report abuse

Nope, I've been saying this since we lost to KC.

I was just answering 1965's question.

Posted by: Original_etrod | November 30, 2009 2:39 PM | Report abuse

j reid can't see a compelling reason to bring Portis back?? How about it's his job and he's a part of a team. If he's healthy he plays.

having him out there helps everyone else who has to be out there.

just more evidence that j reid doesn't get it.

Posted by: pabrian2003 | November 30, 2009 2:27 PM

More evidence that pabrian2003 doesn't get it.

Posted by: League-Source | November 30, 2009 2:39 PM | Report abuse

"PFT is reporting that the Washington Redskins might not fill the roster spot of Chris Cooley once he's placed on Injured Reserve. The team is in dire straights financially at this time due to misjudging the amounts of jersey sales they'd have had at this point from the Haynesworth, and Orakpo jerseys. The team has even gone so far as to list both the Lloyd jersey, and the Pierce jersey's at 50% off to drum up sales"

Posted by: BeantownGreg1 | November 30, 2009 2:39 PM | Report abuse

Buh-bye Charlie Weis. And please, stay far far away from Ashburn...

Posted by: 4-12 | November 30, 2009 2:40 PM | Report abuse

It'll have to be a nasty move - like ripping someone's jock off.

Posted by: RedSkinHead | November 30, 2009 2:35 PM

...through their throat.

Posted by: Original_etrod | November 30, 2009 2:41 PM | Report abuse


Posted by: Original_etrod | November 30, 2009 2:39 PM | Report abuse

Gotcha.

Posted by: p1funk | November 30, 2009 2:42 PM | Report abuse

I'd take Wiess as an OC. It would make sense if we drafted Claussen.

Posted by: Original_etrod | November 30, 2009 2:42 PM | Report abuse

I'll call Zoron BS on this one.

I don't think they want CPo anywhere near the field.

Posted by: DikShuttle | November 30, 2009 2:42 PM | Report abuse

Ugh.

You know how politicians get up and say stuff that everyone knows are outright lies, but they basically crap-feed us the opposite b/c it is supposedly the "right" thing to say?

JZ has just given us a healthy serving of that crap-feed in football-style.

The truth is this:

Clinton Tortoise has had an atrocious season and he's not bringing much of anything to the team. He's not a lockerroom leader or a force for unity. He's not been productive on the field.

He most likely doesn't want to play. He knows the season is lost and he's not trying to get more banged up for a lost cause.

Not only does JZ probably not like CP personally, but JZ knows that CP has brought little-to-nothing to the offense this year and would like to run with some different guys.

Somehow, all of that has become:

"He's a guy we want. We want him to participate. We want him to be a Redskin player. Absolutely," Zorn said. "And if he's healthy, he's gonna wanna go. And we're going to want him to go."


Posted by: p1funk | November 30, 2009 2:22 PM | Report abuse
Couldn't say it any better! Let's go get Beanie wells or jonathan stewart!

Posted by: sthai75 | November 30, 2009 2:43 PM | Report abuse

I'm not a Notre Dame fan, but You've gotta feel bad for the golden-domers.

They thought they were getting a legit top-notch coach when they hired CHarlie Weis.

Instead, they were actually getting a serial cheater who had the luxury of cheating with a Pro Bowl QB.

Weis should be arrested and charged with "fraud" and "impersonating a football coach".

Posted by: p1funk | November 30, 2009 2:45 PM | Report abuse

j reid can't see a compelling reason to bring Portis back?? How about it's his job and he's a part of a team. If he's healthy he plays.

having him out there helps everyone else who has to be out there.

just more evidence that j reid doesn't get it.

Posted by: pabrian2003 | November 30, 2009 2:27 PM

More evidence that pabrian2003 doesn't get it.

Posted by: League-Source

so if he's healthy you sit him and watch campbell get destroyed?? you don't get it either player hater

Posted by: pabrian2003 | November 30, 2009 2:47 PM | Report abuse

"Well, when the end of the season house cleaning begins, I think the trainer should get the boot as well..."

--

Of course, one would hope that the new GM and coach would be no-nonsense people who might even have the freedom to hire their own staffs -- to include personal trainers, player strength and conditioning coaches, and the like.

Trouble was, under JZ and co, the only "mandatory, must do" event in the whole off-season calendar was the free all you can eat buffet and BS cruise ship tour of the Carribean.

Posted by: Vic1 | November 30, 2009 2:48 PM | Report abuse

I'd take Wiess as an OC. It would make sense if we drafted Claussen.

Posted by: Original_etrod | November 30, 2009 2:42 PM | Report abuse


Really? Why? So they can bring that ever-so productive and successful Noter Dame offense to the Redskins?

Posted by: p1funk | November 30, 2009 2:48 PM | Report abuse

I still don't get all the trade talk for Cooley. The highest you'll possibly get for him is maybe a second rounder. And then what? Let's say you pick a RB or Olineman. And they're a bust. So you basically trade away a relatively young pro-bowler for someone who might or might not pan out. Don't think so. Cooley and Davis next yr on the field at the same time gives some exciting possibilities.

Posted by: ga8085 | November 30, 2009 2:49 PM | Report abuse

"He's a guy we want. We want him to participate. We want him to be a Redskin player. Absolutely," Zorn said.

Since when did 'participate' and 'redskins player' go hand in hand?

Posted by: 4thFloor | November 30, 2009 2:50 PM | Report abuse

yeah because when you lose your 2nd string back and are playing with your 3rd, 4th , & 5th string backs, AND your losing by 1 and 3 points...

why would you want your 1st string back to return to the lineup, unless your just a player hating self centered idgit

Posted by: pabrian2003 | November 30, 2009 2:51 PM | Report abuse

If Portis is healthy, you have no choice but to play him. He still offers the best choice at RB at this point. And blitz pickup would be very helpful to JC as well.

Posted by: ga8085 | November 30, 2009 2:53 PM | Report abuse

"I'd take Wiess as an OC. It would make sense if we drafted Claussen."

No.

Actually, the player you want is Golden Tate.

Posted by: MistaMoe | November 30, 2009 2:54 PM | Report abuse

I'd take Wiess as an OC. It would make sense if we drafted Claussen.

Posted by: Original_etrod | November 30, 2009 2:42 PM

No Thanks to BOTH. ND had a horrible year in what was supposed to be their comeback year.....

Posted by: 4thFloor | November 30, 2009 2:55 PM | Report abuse

Really? Why? So they can bring that ever-so productive and successful Noter Dame offense to the Redskins?

Posted by: p1funk | November 30, 2009 2:48 PM | Report abuse

He has a track record of being a good OC. Head coach, not so much.

Think Norv Turner.

Posted by: Original_etrod | November 30, 2009 2:55 PM | Report abuse

He has a track record of being a good OC. Head coach, not so much.

Think Norv Turner.

Posted by: Original_etrod | November 30, 2009 2:55 PM | Report abuse


If he's bringing Tom Brady, and we are allowed to steal signals and cheat, then I'd be happy to welcome Charlie Wies as part of Brady's carry-on luggage.

Posted by: p1funk | November 30, 2009 2:57 PM | Report abuse

What is this 1997?

Who the hell says "Player Hater" anymore?

Posted by: RedDMV | November 30, 2009 2:58 PM | Report abuse

Actually, the player you want is Golden Tate.

Posted by: MistaMoe | November 30, 2009 2:54 PM | Report abuse


I hear he's a real Warrior.

Posted by: Original_etrod | November 30, 2009 2:59 PM | Report abuse

yeah because when you lose your 2nd string back and are playing with your 3rd, 4th , & 5th string backs, AND your losing by 1 and 3 points...

why would you want your 1st string back to return to the lineup, unless your just a player hating self centered idgit

Posted by: pabrian2003 | November 30, 2009 2:51 PM | Report abuse

Portis has bone spurs in his ankles and has been shying away from contact and not hitting the hole with any intensity. He hasn't been practicing and isn't following his blockers. He is not playing like a #1 running back right now. The stats are a little misleading because they do not show the truth. Take away his 2 biggest runs and you'll see the truth. He has been ineffective this year. Most fans think he is done a la Shaun Alexander. I do not believe that. I think with a better line and time to get healthy he can come back next year and be good. I'd like to see him call it a season, get those bone spurs removed, work hard in the offseason, and come back next year. I'd draft a RB and platoon him with portis. I'd draft a few linemen to protect him. I'd also force him to practice so he knows where his blockers are going instead of diving head first into a LB.

Posted by: PAskinsfan17 | November 30, 2009 2:59 PM | Report abuse

Think Norv Turner.

Posted by: Original_etrod | November 30, 2009 2:55 PM

[Running from the room, thinking of Norv Turner] SWEET JEEBUS!!! NO!!!!!!!!!

Posted by: 4-12 | November 30, 2009 2:59 PM | Report abuse

"Clinton Portis doesn't want to play. The team is much better without him."

Portis is the elephant in the room no one wants to talk about.

And even if he is with the team next season, it still needs a solid, dynamic running back for the future--and not the journeymen types filling the spot now.

Posted by: MistaMoe | November 30, 2009 3:01 PM | Report abuse

Sorry. All better now. I was thinking of the Norv Turner from 4thFloor's glory days [well, Skins glory days anyway. Not 4th's playing days. You might not know this, but he went at it with Darnell Dockett!] of the mid-late 90s.

Posted by: 4-12 | November 30, 2009 3:02 PM | Report abuse

What is this 1997?

Who the hell says "Player Hater" anymore?

Posted by: RedDMV | November 30, 2009 2:58 PM | Report abuse


Our resident moron pabrian.

His presence on the RI blog is like the idiot-cousin everyone is embarassed about at the family gatherings:

I guess he has a right to be here, but you're best off by just avoiding him.

Posted by: p1funk | November 30, 2009 3:02 PM | Report abuse

You might not know this, but he went at it with Darnell Dockett!] of the mid-late 90s.

Posted by: 4-12 | November 30, 2009 3:02 PM | Report abuse


I think I heard that somewhere...once or twice

Posted by: Original_etrod | November 30, 2009 3:03 PM | Report abuse

You might not know this, but he went at it with Darnell Dockett!] of the mid-late 90s.

Posted by: 4-12 | November 30, 2009 3:02 PM | Report abuse


I think I heard that somewhere...once or twice

Posted by: Original_etrod | November 30, 2009 3:03 PM | Report abuse


Really? Is that a fact?

Hey 4th, care to divulge the details...

Posted by: p1funk | November 30, 2009 3:06 PM | Report abuse

Posted by: MistaMoe | November 30, 2009 3:01 PM | Report abuse

On the topic of RB's, I'm starting to become a big fan of ole boy from West Virginia: Devine. Guessing at this point, I think he could be had in the 4th round perhaps. Lot's of speedy big play backs could be coming out this yr.

Posted by: ga8085 | November 30, 2009 3:06 PM | Report abuse

I think they're gonna eat his contract next season and just let him go.

Seems to be how they're going...

Posted by: DikShuttle | November 30, 2009 3:06 PM | Report abuse

beeps

Posted by: BeantownGreg1 | November 30, 2009 3:07 PM | Report abuse

Snyder should hire Romeo Crennel as an inexpensive head coach and get Charlie Wiess to run the offense. Then Vinny could draft Clausen and the new direction begins.

Posted by: coparker5 | November 30, 2009 3:07 PM | Report abuse

The most compelling reason the Skins have for bringing Portis back, when the team is 3-8, is to showcase him for a blockbuster Trade.
We can only hope.

Posted by: SkinsneedaGM | November 30, 2009 2:15 PM | Report abuse

How much money does Portis have left on his contract? If it's a significant amount, that makes him untradeable because of his age, recent production level and injury history. In any event, any trade involving him won't be a blockbuster because of these factors -- more like CP for a mid-to-late round draft choice.

Posted by: rbpalmer | November 30, 2009 3:08 PM | Report abuse

I'd like to see him call it a season, get those bone spurs removed, work hard in the offseason, and come back next year.

Posted by: PAskinsfan17 | November 30, 2009 2:59 PM | Report abuse


Clinton Portis work hard in the offseason?

BWAHH-HAAA-HAAA!

That's a good one...

Posted by: p1funk | November 30, 2009 3:11 PM | Report abuse

I think the question with Portis will be the same that it is with Cooley - by the time he's recovered from his injury and back in game condition, will there be enough time left in the season for a comeback to make sense?

Posted by: rbpalmer | November 30, 2009 3:17 PM | Report abuse

PORTIS, STAY THE HELL HOME!!! YOU SUCK!!!

Posted by: BarackObama | November 30, 2009 3:37 PM | Report abuse

Redskins-Get an offensive line and then give me a call.

Posted by: HelloNewman1 | November 30, 2009 3:57 PM | Report abuse

Why would the Skins want Portis back, other than they are paying him TOOOOOOOO much! Since he has been out there finally is a hint of a running game! Thanks for the years, but stay on the sideline. Check out the comments by Ward on Rothlesberger!

Posted by: tom9 | November 30, 2009 4:29 PM | Report abuse

"Clinton Portis doesn't want to play. The team is much better without him."

Exactly.

And I think if you read between the lines they want him to be on the sidelines. It's not like you ever get a straight answer out of the Skins management anyway.

I hope he retires personally.

"On the topic of RB's, I'm starting to become a big fan of ole boy from West Virginia: Devine."

That guy was highly recruited, right behind Slaton. Devine has a world of speed but the Skins brass is too stupid to draft him.

- Ray

Posted by: rmcazz | November 30, 2009 6:14 PM | Report abuse

"Clinton Portis is UNTRADEABLE."

I don't think that's true actually.

They wouldn't get a top pick for the guy, but heck if I were the GM I would take 5th/6th rounder if someone offered it just to get rid if the guy.

- Ray

Posted by: rmcazz | November 30, 2009 6:17 PM | Report abuse

"Even if Portis returns to full strength before the season ends, I can't see a compelling reason to bring him back for the final few games."

I can see two:
1.) You're an NFL team, so your goal is to win games, and you feel Portis is your best RB.

2.) More cynical: What's the worst that can happen? He gets hurt and you give me a retirement settlement?

I still don't understand why people assume Portis will be around next season b/c of his salary -- won't it be uncapped? Deep Pockets Danny should be able to get rid of anyone Vinny, ur, the new coach wants to.

Posted by: WorstSeat | December 1, 2009 11:23 AM | Report abuse

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