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Quarterback Race in Capable Hands With Zorn

The battle between Colt Brennan and Chase Daniel for the No. 3 quarterback job could be decided on Coach Jim Zorn's long-term view of Daniel.

Regardless of what anyone thinks of Zorn's performance after one season as a head coach, he definitely is an expert at assessing the potential of quarterbacks and helping them to develop. Just ask Seattle Seahawks Pro Bowler Matt Hasselbeck, who credits Zorn with his rise.

The race is on for the Redskins' No. 3 gig because Daniel impressed during his sharp outing in last week's 17-13 victory over the Pittsburgh Steelers at FedEx Field. The rookie threw two touchdown passes in the second half to rally the Redskins, displaying accuracy, mobility and sound decision-making in his pro debut.


After stirring a buzz with his perfromance as a rookie in the 2008 preseaosn, Brennan has struggled to this point. If Brennan had shined in the first two games as Daniel did against Pittsburgh, I'm sure some fans would be rooting for Brennan to have a bigger role. And I'm not alluding to the backup quarterback job, which Zorn said this week Todd Collins still has a stranglehold on.

There has been so much angst about Jason Campbell's 1-for-7 against Pittsburgh, Brennan has missed an opportunity to increase his cult-hero status among fans. But I digress.

If Zorn believes Daniel could be no more than a No. 3 quarterback because of his height (he doesn't appear to be as tall as he's listed in the team media guide), then I guess it wouldn't make much sense to keep him over Brennan, who defintiely has ability but takes too many chances with the ball. He has thrown two interceptions in 17 attempts.

Some in the organization have been a bit put off by Brennan's swagger. They view him as a way too arrogant for a guy who hasn't accomplished a thing in this here league. I've always enjoyed my conversations with Brennan, in part because we have that California connection. I covered the high school he attended, Santa Ana Mater Dei, when I was a cub reporter at the Los Angeles Times. We also share a fondness for In-N-Out Burger (it's a West Coast thing).

Several people in the organization have told me they really think Daniel can play at this level despite being vertically challenged. And if he were to perform well Sept. 3 in the final preseason game against the Jacksonville Jaguars, another team might sign him if the Redskins did not include him on the opening 53-man roster. The Redskins also figure another team definitely would sign Brennan, who clearly has the potential to be more than a No. 3 quarterback.

Fortunately for the Redskins, their head coach knows a little something about the quarterback position.

By Jason Reid  |  August 27, 2009; 5:38 PM ET
Categories:  Jason Reid  
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Comments

In and Out Burger bumper stickers used to be among the most popular. Except people modified them slightly to read:
In and Out urge
filthy minds here in CA

Posted by: zcezcest1 | August 27, 2009 5:47 PM | Report abuse

I went to Mater Dei and also love In & Out..Good times

Posted by: ocskins | August 27, 2009 5:52 PM | Report abuse

We also share a fondness for In-N-Out Burger (it's a West Coast thing).

-Jason Reid

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Ewwwwwww.

Posted by: Chia_Pet | August 27, 2009 5:56 PM | Report abuse

if i am on the west coast i am going to grab an in and out burger.

Posted by: chrislarry | August 27, 2009 5:57 PM | Report abuse

"Some in the organization have been a bit put off by Brennan's swagger. They view him as a way too arrogant for a guy who hasn't accomplished a thing in this here league."

I share the same view. I have predicted Colt will owe $600 by the time preseason ends, alluding to his arrogant challenge given to his own defense during scrimmage; challenging them to $100 per interception, hence, I'm implying 6 interceptions in four games. My prediction is till holding.

Posted by: abxinc | August 27, 2009 6:05 PM | Report abuse

I suppose whacktard spammer boy has resorted to reporting other people's posts?

Posted by: Chia_Pet | August 27, 2009 6:08 PM | Report abuse

cant you do this to a Dallas Blog, you ass H*&

Posted by: ocskins | August 27, 2009 6:11 PM | Report abuse

Some in the organization have been a bit put off by Brennan's swagger. They view him as a way too arrogant for a guy who hasn't accomplished a thing in this here league.
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Seem to remember they use to say the same thing about Joe Theismann when he came to the Redskins... how'd he end working out???

Posted by: sovine08 | August 27, 2009 6:12 PM | Report abuse

I remember the first beef burrito I ever had at the Laguna Beach Taco Bell (before Taco Bell became McDonald's-esque), it was 'mungus compared to the thin wraps they serve nowadays..Even Jack-In -The_Box was better on the Left Coast..I easily could live in California (as I have a few times- I'm a sun worshipper like Carlin was..With enemies, like him)...
LA is simply the most decadent place I've EVER been (and I'm from D.C.)..

Vick should be interesting tonight.

Man, I tried to post a comment on Maske's "Favre is divisive in the locker room" article and it just VAPORIZED!! All I was saying, it's a non-story pumped up by ESPN/MSM, give the man a coupla weeks to settle in, watch what happens...But GB defense ain't gonna go pretty on him, that's for sure (I like that Raji)..

Posted by: frak | August 27, 2009 6:15 PM | Report abuse

cut colt and chase and go get tyler thigpen

Posted by: coparker5 | August 27, 2009 6:16 PM | Report abuse

Isn't a QB supposed to have swagger? What's the problem here?

Pick the best three guys and keep moving.

Posted by: edvar | August 27, 2009 6:16 PM | Report abuse

In-N-Out is Awesome!!!!!!!!! I live in L.A area and they have the best burgers anywere.

Posted by: TheJury | August 27, 2009 6:17 PM | Report abuse

LA is simply the most decadent place I've EVER been (and I'm from D.C.)..

Try San Francisco sometime. Awesome.

Posted by: edvar | August 27, 2009 6:18 PM | Report abuse

Get a life, go away
People have stopped posting here
your job is done
move on sad little man

Posted by: noonefromtampa | August 27, 2009 6:18 PM | Report abuse

cant you do this to a Dallas Blog, you ass H*&

Posted by: ocskins | August 27, 2009 6:11 PM

Dude, he is a Dallas fan, and his goal is to be a nuisance to our blog. The best is to ignore him. He is seeking attention, you know, the type he never gets from his mother and too bad his wife is too busy sucking b---s, She never gave him attention needed, and that is why he is sex deprived ,and that explains his recalcitrant posture.

Posted by: abxinc | August 27, 2009 6:20 PM | Report abuse

LA is simply the most decadent place I've EVER been (and I'm from D.C.)..

Try San Francisco sometime. Awesome.

Posted by: edvar | August 27, 2009 6:18 PM

Disagree there edvar, you can't beat LA. You have everything here. Weather, Babes, Hollywood, Babes, Beaches, Babes, Lakers, more hot Babes, Weather again, super hot Babes.

Posted by: TheJury | August 27, 2009 6:23 PM | Report abuse

What makes you think he's older than 14?

Posted by: edvar | August 27, 2009 6:24 PM | Report abuse

Try San Francisco sometime. Awesome.

Posted by: edvar

SF is a wild place, but HANDS DOWN, Smell-A is the raunchiest, most Imperial Roman place I've ever been..

Posted by: frak | August 27, 2009 6:24 PM | Report abuse

Sorry Jury, thought we were talking about food.

Posted by: edvar | August 27, 2009 6:25 PM | Report abuse

The one thing Sonny and Billy actually agreed on was their severe dislike of joey T!

ha, I love Joey T...ridiculusnes and all.

Posted by: chrislarry | August 27, 2009 6:28 PM | Report abuse

Sorry Jury, thought we were talking about food.

Posted by: edvar | August 27, 2009 6:25 PM

Yeah, you probabaly got me there. They do have great food.

Posted by: TheJury | August 27, 2009 6:29 PM | Report abuse

Would 5'10" versus 6' really make a difference? What's the cutoff on "too short"?

70 inches versus 72 inches: that's about 3% shorter. I'm not sure how to calculate how much worse that makes your field vision, but it's got to be in the single digits, percentwise, I would think.

But what if your brain works faster, you go from seeing things to releasing the ball faster, you react faster, and you've got nimble feet? Surely, if you're better in these areas, then at a certain point that overcomes the height problem. . . .

Posted by: farstriker | August 27, 2009 6:30 PM | Report abuse

Fortunately for the Redskins, their head coach knows a little something about the quarterback position.
By Jason Reid | August 27, 2009; 5:38 PM ET

What an understatement!
Thats like saying Jason Reid knows a little about food.
Relax people. We are in good hands

Posted by: mardiros | August 27, 2009 6:37 PM | Report abuse

Hopefully, you're right, and Zorn DOES "Know quarterbacks."
That being the case, he'll jettison J.C. after this next pre-season game, make Collins the starter, and keep the two young guns.....Go Skins!

Posted by: semperfi1973 | August 27, 2009 6:40 PM | Report abuse

..Maybe it was because of my affiliation with the Hollywood porno industry that I got such a jaded perspective..

Posted by: frak | August 27, 2009 6:40 PM | Report abuse

Tsunami in SF is the greatest sushi joint on earth, but you can't go wrong with the west coast in general. Just got back from LA, Redondo beach is racockulous.

Posted by: RomoLongballs | August 27, 2009 6:41 PM | Report abuse

I love both of these kids. Sure Colt has been roughed up some this pre season, but as someone mentioned, swagger goes w/ the territory. Colt will learn. Roster wise, we'll never be able to keep both of them, so I'd give Colt the nod now, from an invetment perspective-not the height thing at all. Chase will be a player in this league-you can count on it.

Posted by: bostskin | August 27, 2009 6:42 PM | Report abuse

Lot of West Coasters on here... I'm in Oxnard, CA, about an hour outside of LA. I guess by this time all the east coast guys are in traffic by now!

Oxnard is the former training camp home of some loser team out of Texas, can't remember which one.

Everyone out here is psyched about In -N- Out burger, but I like Jack in the Box better.

Posted by: dmorgan6617 | August 27, 2009 6:42 PM | Report abuse

Frak - you gotta go to Vegas. Talk about going Roman. Daaaam!

Posted by: edvar | August 27, 2009 6:43 PM | Report abuse

Just a couple minutes ago i was looking through all of these annoying posts by that freak and I thought to myself, just envision Sean Taylor decking him. Where is he when we need him now.

Posted by: mardiros | August 27, 2009 6:48 PM | Report abuse

The place is nicely decorated. There is abundant ketchup bottle on every table. The service is prompt yet friendly. Skip the appetizer if you wanna get to the meat before it gets too cold. The double-double is certainly the overwhelming choice amongst the regulars here, but I suggest the "protein-style" cheeseburger which comes wrapped in a large lettuce instead of the bun. The beverage list is extensive, but most costumer go for the safety of Barq Root Beer. For dessert, the chef prepared a vanilla shake a la mode

Jason Reid, the Food Sympathizer, Washington Post Food Section
Covering In and Out Burger

Posted by: peaceful2008 | August 27, 2009 6:48 PM | Report abuse

"Some in the organization have been a bit put off by Brennan's swagger. They view him as a way too arrogant for a guy who hasn't accomplished a thing in this here league."

I share the same view. I have predicted Colt will owe $600 by the time preseason ends, alluding to his arrogant challenge given to his own defense during scrimmage; challenging them to $100 per interception, hence, I'm implying 6 interceptions in four games. My prediction is till holding.

Posted by: abxinc | August 27, 2009 6:05 PM

I believe that Brett Favre has throw a couple of interceptions, too. How'd HE turn out???
Come on, Skins fans!
I'd rather have somebody rushing on to the field, motivated, buttin' heads with the linemen, who can throw on a rope, QUICKLY, than, well....what we've watched for the past several years.
I'd forgotten what ADRENALINE felt like, until watching the SKINS THIRD team move the ball last weekend against the steelers!!!
But some of you may say, "...it's pre-season..." blah, blah, blah....I AM desperate!!!
HAIL SKINS!!

Posted by: semperfi1973 | August 27, 2009 6:51 PM | Report abuse

Redskins Nation. From sea to shining sea and beyond!

(BTW As far as J Reid's lunch goes, right on!
When you're treated to a decent meal at a righteous price (freeeee), you gotta tell the world. And let's not forget Freakzilla's Arbys experience yesterday, was that some big time foreshadowing or what?)

Posted by: _Stumped_ | August 27, 2009 6:52 PM | Report abuse

In-N-Out is Awesome!!!!!!!!! I live in L.A area and they have the best burgers anywere.

Posted by: TheJury | August 27, 2009 6:17 PM

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Duude, have you tried Fathers Office in Santa Monica? Best Burger/draft beer i none place

Posted by: peaceful2008 | August 27, 2009 6:52 PM | Report abuse

The place is nicely decorated. There is abundant ketchup bottle on every table. The service is prompt yet friendly. Skip the appetizer if you wanna get to the meat before it gets too cold. The double-double is certainly the overwhelming choice amongst the regulars here, but I suggest the "protein-style" cheeseburger which comes wrapped in a large lettuce instead of the bun. The beverage list is extensive, but most costumer go for the safety of Barq Root Beer. For dessert, the chef prepared a vanilla shake a la mode

Jason Reid, the Food Sympathizer, Washington Post Food Section
Covering In and Out Burger

Posted by: peaceful2008 | August 27, 2009 6:48 PM

Stay tuned next week when Jason Reid takes on Randy Thomas in a competitive eating contest.

Posted by: mardiros | August 27, 2009 6:52 PM | Report abuse

They also have Maryland Crab Cake which is the all time best food ever. If I ever move back to Maryland, the crab cake will be among the top reasons!

Posted by: peaceful2008 | August 27, 2009 6:54 PM | Report abuse

It would be unforgivable to release Colt Brennan. He has all the variables to be a truly great quarterback - tremendous skill, drive, and leadership ability. He is a dynamic player, and there isn't one Redskin in my opinion who wants anyone else to be the starter, at least within a year, in their heart of hearts. Because everyone knows Colt Brennan would give this team the dynamic quarterback it hasn't had for so long.

Posted by: shane2229 | August 27, 2009 6:56 PM | Report abuse

I too have eaten at In-N-Out burger.... good, but not really that good..

anyways... height smeight... when you have 6'5" DL with their arms up you can be 9 feet tall and still get the ball knocked down... identifying the passing lanes is the key....

Posted by: oldnova | August 27, 2009 6:58 PM | Report abuse

"In and Out Burger" - I have a hard enough time trusting the Beavis and Buttheads at the Arby's , how you gonna tempt fate with a name like that??

Posted by: frak | August 27, 2009 6:58 PM | Report abuse

"Would 5'10" versus 6' really make a difference? What's the cutoff on "too short"?70 inches versus 72 inches: that's about 3% shorter. I'm not sure how to calculate how much worse that makes your field vision, but it's got to be in the single digits, percentwise, I would think.
But what if your brain works faster, you go from seeing things to releasing the ball faster, you react faster, and you've got nimble feet? Surely, if you're better in these areas, then at a certain point that overcomes the height problem. . . .
Posted by: farstriker"

Sure. It's a disadvantage, not a fatal one. But IMO in the NFL a QB who's 6' doesn't have much advantage on somebody who's 5'10" because they're both too short to see easily over a bunch of 6'5" linemen. On the other hand, a QB who's 6'4" has more of an advantage over a 6'2" QB, because he really can see over the line better than the shorter man.

You notice that a shorter QB like Flutie was a lot more effective out of the pocket than buried behind his 0-line.

The spread offense that you see in college really makes things easier for the height-challenged.

Posted by: Samson151 | August 27, 2009 6:59 PM | Report abuse

This is just for fun, but somebody over at pro-football-reference.com has used the Meyers-Briggs to type QBs by personality type. Here's the link http://www.pro-football-reference.com/blog/?p=3459

For those who just want the glamour, here's the list he made of modern QBs and their personality comparables from the past (our guy is last):

Peyton Manning = Dan Marino
Tom Brady = Fran Tarkenton
Ben Roethlisberger = Bob Berry
Kurt Warner = Danny White
Eli Manning = Joe Ferguson
Drew Brees = Dan Fouts
Tony Romo = Terry Bradshaw
Donovan McNabb = Rich Gannon
David Garrard= Neil O’Donnell
Jay Cutler = Joe Namath
Philip Rivers = Daryle Lamonica
Carson Palmer = Jim Kelly
Jake Delhomme = Boomer Esiason
Chad Pennington = Ken Anderson
Matt Hasselbeck =Jeff Hostetler
Kerry Collins = Jim Zorn
Marc Bulger = Craig Morton
Jason Campbell = Mike Livingston


Posted by: Samson151 | August 27, 2009 7:08 PM | Report abuse

How about using more than one QB more frequently? As it is, the defenses plan quite effectively for the starting QB and schemes. What would be the disadvantage of playing Todd, or Chase for a series here and a series there? It is nothing against the starting QB, it is just a scheme thing. How about ARE in the backfield?

Coach Zorn, we just think the offense is too predictable. What is the down side of variety?

Posted by: peaceful2008 | August 27, 2009 7:09 PM | Report abuse

Samson, who the hell is Mike Livingston?

Posted by: peaceful2008 | August 27, 2009 7:11 PM | Report abuse

Samson--You still saying Jarmon might start the season on the practice squad where 31 other teams can claim him?

Posted by: talent_evaluator | August 27, 2009 7:12 PM | Report abuse

double, double

Posted by: peaceful2008 | August 27, 2009 7:13 PM | Report abuse

And our head coach seems to be closest to Kerry Collins...

Posted by: Samson151 | August 27, 2009 7:14 PM | Report abuse

LA= not a good place to be married ;-(

Posted by: peaceful2008 | August 27, 2009 7:15 PM | Report abuse

"Fortunately for the Redskins, their head coach knows a little something about the quarterback position."

Too bad he doesn't know anything about play calling.

- Ray

Posted by: rmcazz | August 27, 2009 7:19 PM | Report abuse


"In and Out Burger" - I have a hard enough time trusting the Beavis and Buttheads at the Arby's , how you gonna tempt fate with a name like that??

Posted by: frak | August 27, 2009 6:58 PM

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We are getting into technicalities here.....but the kitchen at IN and OUT is wide open and exposed. the fries are made by....get this... pressing a peeled potato (or potatoe) into a shredder thingy, and into the boiling grease=organic fries!!


Posted by: peaceful2008 | August 27, 2009 7:22 PM | Report abuse

"Samson--You still saying Jarmon might start the season on the practice squad where 31 other teams can claim him?Posted by: talent_evaluator"

Oops - my mistake.

Posted by: Samson151 | August 27, 2009 7:26 PM | Report abuse

Beep Beep

Posted by: TheNewTruth | August 27, 2009 7:27 PM | Report abuse

"Samson, who the hell is Mike Livingston?
Posted by: peaceful2008"

Chiefs backup and part-time starter over 11 seasons ending in '79. The others in that very small category of atypically cautious QBs are Jack Trudeau and Steve McNair. But like I said, it's all in fun -- I mean, who takes the Meyers-Briggs seriously? This is something along those lines.

Posted by: Samson151 | August 27, 2009 7:30 PM | Report abuse

Zorn does seem to have a knack for identifying qb talent-- especially for the WC offense. Brennan and Daniel are suited perfectly for WCO-- Campbell and Collins are just retrofits. Why aren't we keeping Brennan AND Daniel-- both have shown the onfield moxie to be able to run this offense. With more reps and playing time they could both be awesome. Can you imagine where Brennan would be if he had the reps and playing time Campbell (or even Collins)has had?

Posted by: PaTGee | August 27, 2009 9:13 PM | Report abuse

We did not get to see much of either any of the QBs yet, however, based on what we did see, I prefer Daniels over Colt. Mostly because I did not see any change in Colt from last year. In fact, he played worse. Whereas I just like the way Daniels seemed so in control of him self, and he has good movement abilities, and accuracy and a nice touch on his throws.

Posted by: DrWho2 | August 27, 2009 9:25 PM | Report abuse

I wouldn't mind at all if Redskins release Colt. So that he'd have a chance to be picked up by a team that plays more vertical, plus a chance to get out of his skimpy 1.5 mil over 4 yr contract.

His contract is nothing to swagger about, but his HEART of GAME is.

Release Colt!!!

Posted by: GoSk1ns | August 27, 2009 10:45 PM | Report abuse

btw...Swagger, arrogance??? Give me a freking break, a NFL QB needs both.

Namath was a little arrogant, where did it get him??? HAHAHA

Posted by: GoSk1ns | August 27, 2009 11:02 PM | Report abuse

Jack in the Box is so much better than In-and-Out burger. Suck it, Trebek.

Posted by: BMACattack | August 27, 2009 11:22 PM | Report abuse

Burger at "The Counter" puts them all to shame. There's one in Va, and one in Santa Monaca about ten miles from my house. Also in Ireland, Australia and Hawaii as well as many other places.

It's build your own burger there, but it's a great burger.

Posted by: TheCork | August 28, 2009 2:52 AM | Report abuse

Swagger? PLEASE somebody at QB have some swagger. Jason C. has about as much personality as a rock.

Posted by: kls1 | August 28, 2009 8:39 AM | Report abuse

Oh my God. Can we PLEASE stop with the "release JC" crap after tonight's game? That's just what the franchise needs....to release the QB with the most experience running this offense and replace him with, what I can only describe and some people's "man crush" Colt Brennan or Chase Daniel. Like the saying goes, the most popular player on every team is the backup QB. That is, until they get on the field in a real, meaningful situation, and we're reminded of why they're back-ups.

Posted by: ywill316 | August 28, 2009 9:35 AM | Report abuse

First of all, Jason Reid, this the most journalistically challenged article I have ever read. If your story doesn't have a point, why write it?

AND to this retard:
We did not get to see much of either any of the QBs yet, however, based on what we did see, I prefer Daniels over Colt. Mostly because I did not see any change in Colt from last year. In fact, he played worse. Whereas I just like the way Daniels seemed so in control of him self, and he has good movement abilities, and accuracy and a nice touch on his throws.

Hello. First off its DANIEL. Not DANIELS. Get it right. Secondly, Daniel played ONE quarter (not even) of ONE preseason game and had great success. Tha being said, Colt also preformed well during his preseason debut and was considered to have great potential. Why would the Skins who took Brennan on a draft pick spend a year trying to get him into the system just to cut him the next year for another rookie who was in the exact same place as he was a year ago? It'd be a waste of time, money and resources for the Skins to let Colt go. Sign Chase to the practice squad, and keep Colt as a number three.

Posted by: supergrl63 | August 28, 2009 9:35 AM | Report abuse

In-N-Out is great cuz all they make is burgers, fries, and shakes.

.....and they make them well.

I prefer the 3x3! (Triple Meat and Cheese)

mmmmmm =p

If anyone goes to the Chargers game this year be sure to get yourself an In-N-Out Burger and of course a Carne Asada Burrito from any place that ends in erto's.

Posted by: filmchis | August 28, 2009 12:57 PM | Report abuse

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