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Quick Take on Mike Williams

I know he's the feel-good story of training camp, but it has been painful to watch tackle Mike Williams in pass protection since camp opened, and I really don't expect him to improve much today or anytime soon.

His long layoff from football (he last played in a regular season game in 2005) and rapid weight loss have not been a good combination. It seems as if every defensive end in camp has beaten him regularly while Williams struggles to relearn proper footwork. He's going to need a lot of time in the weight room to rebuild strength, and you don't need to be a player, scout or coach to know he doesn't belong on a football field right now in a competitive environment.

By Jason Reid  |  August 5, 2009; 8:18 AM ET
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First to say, fat camp ain't the same a training camp

Posted by: KingME1 | August 5, 2009 8:23 AM | Report abuse

I'm not surprised at this, given the layoff, and weight loss, you couldn't help but come to this conclusion, just curious if perhaps moving him to Guard might be the answer...I think this was tried in Buffalo, or was tried another time with him, and it failed, but just thinking perhaps with a T to his right or left, he'd be better off.....

Posted by: BeantownGreg1 | August 5, 2009 8:29 AM | Report abuse

While I'd like to see Big Mike succeed, I wonder how long this experiment will last. Will the Skins take up a roster spot on him solely to work his way (maybe) into competitive football spot? Not too many backups on the roster currently as it is at right tackle to be guessing or wishing here. My hope is that if indeed he's not cutting it, they cut bait quickly early in the preseason to bring someone in that is ready to fill that backup spot.

Posted by: torqued21 | August 5, 2009 8:30 AM | Report abuse

I'm not surprised to hear this. Few activities stress the body more than really rapid weight loss, especially at the 100 pound level. He needs a good six months to get fully in shape, and of course, he'll have to battle regaining the weight.

Still, the prognosis is probably fairly good for the long term. If he stays around his present weight and focuses on conditioning, he could be ready to play at some point later this season. Or early next.

This was a gamble that cost the team little or nothing. Several folks here have compared it with Erasmus James, but James was recuperating from a severe injury and his prognosis is likely not as good as Williams.

So maybe it's Heyer at tackle and Bridges backing up both positions on the right side.

Posted by: Samson151 | August 5, 2009 8:30 AM | Report abuse

Wow...that's a damning evaluation. Puts a helluva dent in that "youth movement" with him destined for the waiver wire and Heyer on the mend.

Posted by: brownwood26 | August 5, 2009 8:30 AM | Report abuse

The emperor has no clothes.

Posted by: DikShuttle | August 5, 2009 8:31 AM | Report abuse

A reporter's honest observations:

"...but it has been painful to watch tackle Mike Williams in pass protection since camp opened, and I really don't expect him to improve much today or any time soon."

So if this is what a sports reporter thinks, what was on the mind of the skins FO people on draft day when they looked at the likes of Oher, Britton, Loadholt, Monroe, Robinson, and collectively said, "We don't need those guys, 'cuz we got Mike Williams."?

And when you remember the defensive linemen and linebackers the team will face this season--Ratliff, Canty, Ware, Osi, Cofield, Merriman--you have to really wonder, "What were they thinking?"

Posted by: MistaMoe | August 5, 2009 8:32 AM | Report abuse

beep beep

Posted by: torqued21 | August 5, 2009 8:32 AM | Report abuse

But "youth movement" says to me you're putting in younger guys who lack experience but have an upside. I associate that term with taking your lumps today in the name of being really good there tomorrow. You can't say that about anyone on the Redskins line, save for Heyer.

Say what you will about the likes of Dockery, Bridges, and Williams...those guys are nothing more than stop-gaps.

Besides, the Redskins seldom have enough draft picks to have have a true "youth movement".

Posted by: brownwood26 | August 5, 2009 7:37 AM | Report abuse

next up Brownwood (known aliases: Debbie Downer, Prince of Pessimism, Doctor Dictionary, King of the English Language) will debate Bill Clinton, himself and all foolish takers on what the real definition of "is" is. Jesus, we're a week from our first preseason game and you want to play dueling thesauruses.

Cindy, Jason- any updates on AH/Malcolm Kelly's knees, Kevin Barnes and the 4th/5th WR battles (i.e., Mitchell, Eloi, Hagans, Shelton) would be most bumptious. I'm sure brownwood will let me know that was used out of context but it sounds cool.

HAIL

Posted by: Notorious_LMG | August 5, 2009 8:33 AM | Report abuse

Well ofcourse it will take some time for his body to adjust to being back in football, that's just common sense. Maybe he should be a practice squad player and used as insurance that way...but i agree that he's not going to be a real contributor THIS season. But hopefully some other young guy will step up his game.

***NOTE TO VINNY..NEXT YEAR'S DRAFT SHOULD ATLEAST HAVE 2 LINEMAN IN THE FIRST 4 PICKS AND SIGN A DECENT FREE AGENT AS WELL***

If they were smart, alot of the preseason scouting would be directed at finding those O-Lineman that are getting cut from other teams.

Posted by: impervious99 | August 5, 2009 8:35 AM | Report abuse

Once I heard the news about Williams's comeback attempt, I figured him to be a long shot to make the team, much less to make a meaningful contribution this year. I also figured that it was a no-lose situation for the 'Skins, given their o-line issues and (I'm guessing) his vet's minimum salary.

What I'm wondering now is whether his groin injury will keep him from showing enough to convince the 'Skins to keep him around for a year, to see if he can gain strength and knock off the rust of his two years away from the game. Age-wise, he's still in his prime, and even if he can return to the less-than-dominating form that he displayed in Buffalo, he could help us.

Posted by: rbpalmer | August 5, 2009 8:41 AM | Report abuse

I understand Phil Daniels looks really good. Of course, that might be misleading.

Posted by: Samson151 | August 5, 2009 8:46 AM | Report abuse

Well ofcourse it will take some time for his body to adjust to being back in football, that's just common sense. Maybe he should be a practice squad player and used as insurance that way...

Posted by: impervious99 | August 5, 2009 8:35 AM | Report abuse

Williams isn't eligible for the practice squad because he has been in the NFL for more than one season and on an active roster for more than eight games. Too bad, though, as that might be the ideal place for him this year.

Posted by: rbpalmer | August 5, 2009 8:53 AM | Report abuse

Hope they put him on the practice squad. Insurance for the O-Line is a good thing.

LarryInClintonMD.

Posted by: LarryInClintonMD | August 5, 2009 8:55 AM | Report abuse

By the way, I see Adam Terry (sp?) is down for the year in Baltimore -- guess they were right to take Oher in that spot. The reviews on the Internet on Oher's performance to date are predictably mixed -- great raw talent, some deficits in skills.

Posted by: Samson151 | August 5, 2009 8:56 AM | Report abuse

Mike Williams may be a big factor next season. Maybe we should find a way to put him on injured reserve. A year in the weight room and getting back into a football mindset will really help him. He's already done the hard part, loosing 100 plus pounds.

Posted by: RedskinJim1 | August 5, 2009 9:08 AM | Report abuse

Any word on Levi Jones, will we look into signing him???

Posted by: ccohen2 | August 5, 2009 9:11 AM | Report abuse

He's going to need a lot of time in the weight room to rebuild strength, and you don't need to be a player, scout or coach to know he doesn't belong on a football field right now in a competitive environment.

By Jason Reid | August 5, 2009; 8:18 AM ET

So tell us how you really feel about Big Mike

Posted by: scottmando | August 5, 2009 9:29 AM | Report abuse

I say sign whoever you can with some starting experience on the OL for this year. Don't give away the farm for em but get em. Otherwise, we won't have any idea after 2 seasons whether its JZ's offense or JC or the 2nd year receivers not stepping up. we need to have the pass protection to see what we have in the other areas.

Posted by: scottmando | August 5, 2009 9:36 AM | Report abuse

Has Rinehart just completely sucked? We dont ever hear anything about this guy and I thought we drafted him, somewhat middle rounds if not higher - what is wrong with him that he cant play or even be considered, if he cant, why are we constantly taking on projects???

I know it is early, but we need this time to build cohesion!

Posted by: mhartz1 | August 5, 2009 9:39 AM | Report abuse

Nice to free up Jansen's spot (with no serious salary cap savings, right?) for a guy who isn't game ready.

I can't not love Buges, but this is how many times he's over committed to projects? Todd Wade's shift, Heyer (say what you will, he wasn't as good as Jansen last year), and now Williams.

Whose decision is it to keep the line so ragtag? I've seen it rumored that Zorn told Snyder/Cerrato that he didn't need a better line this year, but then just saw that he didn't have JC run "slow-developing pass plays" last year b/c he didn't have good protection.

Dockery for Kendall, good. Everywhere else they're at best a year old.

Thanks for the straight report, Mr. Mayor.

Posted by: WorstSeat | August 5, 2009 9:59 AM | Report abuse

Great!! Our "starting" right tackle is well, not a starter, and he's hurt. And, our backup is a pedestrian. Yayy!!! Meanwhile, Levi Jones and John Runyan are unsigned and we aren't interested Yippee!!

Seriously, for a dismall offense with a battered line, we might NEED Michael Vick. Anyone who can't run is gonna get brutalized out there. GEEZ

Posted by: MadeRED | August 5, 2009 10:05 AM | Report abuse

was mike williams good at any time in his career in the NFL? I realize he was a 4th pick overall, but he wouldn't be the first bust to be drafted in the top 5. If he was never destined to be a good player in the league, then losing 100 pounds isn't going to suddenly into a starter or even a quality back-up.

Posted by: ZardsFan1 | August 5, 2009 10:51 AM | Report abuse

I am disappointed but if he's cut, its an opportunity for some other guys. Also, Mike Williams is a good guy and this is going to be good for his health long-term even if he's not a Skin going forward.

Heyer away!

Posted by: ElYeah | August 5, 2009 11:44 AM | Report abuse

...and as a GM you're supposed to be a competent talent evaluator, which Vinnie obviously is not. Danny, how much longer are you going to suffer this fool???

Posted by: oddjob1 | August 5, 2009 2:02 PM | Report abuse

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