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Randle El Remains a Force

Before the opener against the New York Giants, coaches and players told me they believed that Antwaan Randle El could lead the team in receptions in his new role as a slot receiver. They figured Randle El would win many battles while often matched up against linebackers and, well, Randle El definitely is off to a good start.

In the 23-17 loss to the Giants, Randle El tied Chris Cooley for the team lead with seven receptions and led the Redskins with 98 yards.

"With his quickness going against guys in the slot, he could definitely catch more balls than anybody this year," quarterback Jason Campbell said. "The thing about Randle El is, he's a veteran. He's always working hard in the offseason and this is when it pays off for you."

Officially, Randle El was in the competition for the starting flanker he held the previous three seasons. The reality was, however, the coaching staff wanted either Malcolm Kelly or Devin Thomas to win the job.

Both are taller than Randle El (he is listed at 5-feet-10), and the staff was eager to expand the team's options in the passing game. Kelly emerged as the starter opposite split end Santana Moss, but Randle El still is in the mix.

"That's why you get prepared because you don't know what's coming," Randle El said. "I told them wherever they put me, I'm going to give 'em all I got."

By Jason Reid  |  September 17, 2009; 12:13 PM ET
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Only if by "force", you mean someone that looks like he completely going to throw a pass, instead of running the end around, and therefore draws the entire defense his way. He then runs in circles and gets dropped like a sack of potatoes.

Otherwise, he is a dweeb, and should be benched.

Posted by: Sports_Guru | September 17, 2009 12:27 PM | Report abuse

1st to say sports_guru is a blithering toolbox

Posted by: scampbell1975 | September 17, 2009 12:27 PM | Report abuse

We should destroy in this game ... Yet I truly don't believe that we will! It is so f*ing frstrating that we blow as much as we do.

Posted by: sjw1 | September 17, 2009 12:28 PM | Report abuse

I'd like to hear whether the defense has been hitting this week. Not saying they need to get anyone hurt, but a little more physicality in practice after the poor tackling against the Giants would probably be appropriate.

Posted by: mhaslup1 | September 17, 2009 12:29 PM | Report abuse

Scamp,

Guru says some stoooopid things. The man is an azzhat.

But he is a lifelong Redskins fan. The kid bleeds burgundy and gold. I know him personally, and he's also a decent human being. If you were a stranger on the street and needed a hand, he would be the first to help you.

Just sayin'

HTTR

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Posted by: Chia_Pet | September 17, 2009 12:30 PM | Report abuse

Man, he does spew some crapola, though!

Jeeesh, Guru, at least try to be a part of the conversation instead of randomly vomiting all over da blog.

You're better than your inane comments suggest you are.

I think?

Posted by: Chia_Pet | September 17, 2009 12:33 PM | Report abuse

Scamp,

Guru says some stoooopid things. The man is an azzhat.

But he is a lifelong Redskins fan. The kid bleeds burgundy and gold. I know him personally, and he's also a decent human being. If you were a stranger on the street and needed a hand, he would be the first to help you.

Just sayin'

HTTR

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Posted by: Chia_Pet | September 17, 2009 12:30 PM |

Interesting, so what you're saying is that although, football speaking, he is not a guru but in the game of life he hits a homerun. I guess I can lay off. I just wish he would make something like an intelligent statement. Saying things like "I just don't see anyway" the Redskins can beat the Rims is ridiculous bafoonery.

Posted by: scampbell1975 | September 17, 2009 12:34 PM | Report abuse

Putting Randel El in the slot, is the best thing and best place for him. He's not a number 2 receiver, not here or on any team in the NFL. He matches up well against any linebacker, 3rd corner (slot corner), and most safeties in the NFL. That's his space. Now the Redskins have to realize that Moss isn't truly a number one receiver either, but then again, none of the teams in the NFC east have true number 1 receivers.

Posted by: clark202 | September 17, 2009 12:36 PM | Report abuse

Yeah, he's doing great because our #2 guy is INVISIBLE out there on the field. Kelly could set a record for least receptions EVER for a starting WR this season.

This coaching staff is simply utterly incapable of utilizing talent in any way whatsoever. Oh, except for El. BFD

Posted by: McMetal | September 17, 2009 12:46 PM | Report abuse

"Against the Giants from the shotgun, Campbell was 15-for-17 for 161 yards and a touchdown. He also had a 16-yrd scramble. Or 18 snaps for 171 yards. An averageof 9.5-per-pla.Both the Redskins best drives, at the end of each half, were keyed by Campbell in the gun.Otherwise, Campbell was 4-for-9 for 50 yards, an interception and 3 sacks for -24 yards. Or 12 snaps 26 yards. An average of 2.2 yards a play."

Except Boz presumes this is because Campbell is better in the shotgun. But the gun is an offense geared to obvious passing situations. That's why Jason got 16 yards on a rush attempt -- the defense was spread the wrong way. Would the shotgun produce as well on, say, second and three in the third quarter?

Using the gun forty times a game means sacrificing ball control and time of possession for the threat of a quick score. And the big risk is INTs.

You know why Jason does better in the shotgun? Because his pass pro hasn't been very good.

Be an interesting experiment, however.

Posted by: Samson151

Samson, take out the last drive and the numbers are still compelling. Great vs horrid.

40 passes a game from the shotgun doesn't inherently raise the INT risk, at least on a % basis. Campbell proved in 2008 that he knows how avoid throwing picks.

And if you avg 2.2 yards a pass play from under center, you've pretty much sacrificed any claim to ball control if you keep doing that.

Posted by: zcezcest1 | September 17, 2009 12:47 PM | Report abuse

The Rams game really sucked last year.

I think that game, and the home loss to Dallas were the ones that killed us.

________________________

I have to believe the Rams will get a lot better every week under Spags, so there's absolutely no gimme here for the Skins. Could the Skins flatten them? Sure, we've got the talent to. But that hasn't stopped us from keeping games close or losing them when we shouldn't have, time & time again. And that's why J Reid's earlier post about unreasonably angry fan talk really irks me. As somebody here said, we've lost what, 7 of our last 9? That's the relevant metric here.

I think this team has lots of talent, certainly enough to play consistently strong ball and make the playoffs. Love the D, despite the problems in the secondary, and they limited the Ginas to 16 offensive pt's. Was very happy with the O-line's competent performance on Sunday. Love the new WR situation, not that MK, MM or DT are really battle-tested yet... but I think they're at least “good enough”, and may quickly become strong if they get the ball enough. Mediocre JC, despite his slow clock-speed and poor pocket awareness, is also sufficient to win with (but I want an upgrade this next offseason). Portis is still a beast if he gets reasonable blocking, and the TE's are fine.

This team has more than enough to win with (and no, J Reid, that doesn't mean I expect the Skins to win every game, or to always beat the Ginas in their house... but if we lose a tough game we should lose it "well"). To me, we didn't just lose on Sunday, we were dominated (if anyone says otherwise b/c of the 6 pt margin, you weren't watching)... and that's the big concern. It means we could get beat by lousy teams. Like the Lambs. And very quickly be out of the running for the playoffs, especially in this division.

And why we were dominated? Primarily because of Zorn's poor play-calling. Unimaginative, predictable, and (often) incorrectly tailored for the Ginas' strengths (i.e. its D-line / front 7).

For me, Zorn and his play-calling is the single weak link for the Redskins right now. If he solves it (and it has to be immediate), this team will have a great year.

Posted by: chasgiffen | September 17, 2009 12:47 PM | Report abuse

Maybe the guru needs some Paxil to help take the edge off his stress and let him bring out his better self that he hides so well here on the blog.

Or just drink more on Mondays.

Posted by: will_ga | September 17, 2009 12:50 PM | Report abuse

"Campbell was 4-for-9 for 50 yards, an interception and 3 sacks for -24 yards."

If I'm not mistaken, Campbell was only sacked twice. The third sack was on Randle El, technically speaking. Minor tidbit.

Posted by: psps23 | September 17, 2009 12:51 PM | Report abuse

Someone please explain to me the uncapped year next season. Are next year's signings cap free for the life of the contract or just that season? And what about releasing players?

Posted by: shanteefamilee | September 17, 2009 12:54 PM | Report abuse

Someone please explain to me the uncapped year next season. Are next year's signings cap free for the life of the contract or just that season? And what about releasing players?

Posted by: shanteefamilee | September 17, 2009 12:56 PM | Report abuse

During the NE game, they showed a chart of Wes Welker's completions in different ranges (1-10 yards downfield, 11-20, 20+). I believe it said that Welker, the league leader in receptions the last two seasons, caught one pass in which the ball traveled beyond 20 yards in the air. Meanwhile, it was somewhere well over 100 that Welker caught in the 1-10 range. Keep Randle El in a role like that, and he'll kill it every game.

Posted by: psps23 | September 17, 2009 12:56 PM | Report abuse

I agree with Chas. This team executes every play perfectly. I've reviewed the routes, the reads, and the blocking schemes. This is the best executing team in the history of football. The only thing that could possibly be holding it back is playcalling. This week, "everybody go deep!"

Posted by: mhaslup1 | September 17, 2009 12:59 PM | Report abuse

Apparently we only had one sack and two QB hits on Sunday. All 3 of them came from Andre Carter. Someone else needs to step up in that department.

Posted by: psps23 | September 17, 2009 1:00 PM | Report abuse

Someone please explain to me the uncapped year next season. Are next year's signings cap free for the life of the contract or just that season? And what about releasing players?

Posted by: shanteefamilee | September 17, 2009 12:56 PM | Report abuse

Don't know about how signings work if a cap returns but I do know that cuts don't matter against a cap. However, one thing people fail to mention when they get giddy thinking about Snyder going Christmas shopping is the uncapped year means only players with 6 years of service are eligible for unrestricted free agency and teams get extra tags as well. Guys like JC and CR22 would be restricted free agents governed still by the tender and reimbursement process in place now. So many are speculating that the talent pool won't be all that special, and us without a 3rd and a 5th already would have little to compensate with if we decided to go after a RFA.

Posted by: zjfr2 | September 17, 2009 1:00 PM | Report abuse

El: 6/72/0
MK: 5/45/1
Portis: 18/97/2
Tana: 3/35/0
Cooley: 5/60/1
Campbell: 22/32/287/2/0
Suisham: 2/2(37,43) 4/4

Posted by: SkinsfaninKaneohe | September 17, 2009 1:01 PM | Report abuse

Did Orakpo play every down at LB or did he line up any at DE?

Posted by: will_ga | September 17, 2009 1:02 PM | Report abuse

ARE in the slot could be like the Ricky Sanders of yesteryear

Posted by: chitownskinsfan | September 17, 2009 1:02 PM | Report abuse

Man, why did we ever play ARE on the outside... all those games when we had ARE and Thrash (or whoever) lined up on the right, basically conceding that side of the field to the defense... ugh...

Posted by: NateinthePDX | September 17, 2009 1:02 PM | Report abuse

Randle Eel is a Force? That may be a bit of an overstatement.

Adrian Peterson is a Force. Tom Brady is a Force. Patrick Willis is a Force.

Randle El had a good game but let's not go overboard.

Posted by: Original_etrod | September 17, 2009 1:08 PM | Report abuse

Peter King's pick:
St. Louis Rams (0-1) at Washington Redskins (0-1)

In the offseason, I wondered why such a talented coach as Steve Spagnuolo would use up his one chance (maybe) at being an NFL coach on such a woebegone franchise, one that's in the market for a new owner. I haven't stopped wondering.

Prediction: Washington Redskins 37, St. Louis Rams 12

Posted by: will_ga | September 17, 2009 1:09 PM | Report abuse

Randle Eel is a Force? That may be a bit of an overstatement.

Adrian Peterson is a Force. Tom Brady is a Force. Patrick Willis is a Force.

Randle El had a good game but let's not go overboard.

Posted by: Original_etrod | September 17, 2009 1:13 PM | Report abuse

FEDEX FIELD OFFICIALS ADDRESS STADIUM PLUMBING PROBEMS

FEDEX Field officials released a press statement this morning advising anyone planning to attend Sunday's NFL match between the Washington Redskins and St Louis Rams to visit any of the numerous portapotties that will be located outside the gates before entering the stadium. They also ask attendees to take several deep breaths before entering the stadium.

While stadium officials said they have in fact corrected the plumbing problems that plagued an August rock concert there, they are still concerned that some attendees at Sunday's game may confuse the stench coming from the Washington side of the playing field with the smell of backed up drains and raw sewage.

According to one official, "By acclimating our fans to the taste and smell of the portapotties, we hope they'll be more patient and understanding when it comes to watching JC and the offensive unit take the field."

Posted by: Vic1 | September 17, 2009 1:14 PM | Report abuse

Interesting article by the Freakonomics guys on winner's bias in football.

http://freakonomics.blogs.nytimes.com/2009/09/17/survivor-bias-on-the-gridiron/

In short, 'winner's bias" refers to the phenomenon where the behaviors of winners are given much greater weight than the behavior of losers, even if the loser should have won the game (see Buffalo and Cincinnati last weeked).

This is something we see a whole lot of around here, I think...

Posted by: Samson151 | September 17, 2009 1:15 PM | Report abuse

Apparently we only had one sack and two QB hits on Sunday. All 3 of them came from Andre Carter. Someone else needs to step up in that department.

Posted by: psps23 | September 17, 2009 1:00 PM |

Golston had a sack on a play on which he was held. The Skins took the penalty.

Posted by: TWISI | September 17, 2009 1:16 PM | Report abuse

Lest we forget, none of this matters one bit if Samuels goes down.

Posted by: BrooklynSkins | September 17, 2009 1:17 PM | Report abuse

If I'm not mistaken, Campbell was only sacked twice. The third sack was on Randle El, technically speaking. Minor tidbit.

Posted by: psps23 | September 17, 2009 12:51 PM |

Actually psp if you want to get real technical he was only sacked once. The ball that got knocked out of his hands, that was his fault by the way counts as a sack as well.

Posted by: Flounder21 | September 17, 2009 1:19 PM | Report abuse

Lest we forget, none of this matters one bit if Samuels goes down.

Posted by: BrooklynSkins | September 17, 2009 1:17 PM | Report abuse

too true too true

Posted by: zjfr2 | September 17, 2009 1:20 PM | Report abuse

Apparently we only had one sack and two QB hits on Sunday. All 3 of them came from Andre Carter. Someone else needs to step up in that department.

Posted by: psps23 |

I thought we had two sacks. Suddenly I want to watch the game again.

Posted by: pgugino | September 17, 2009 1:20 PM | Report abuse

Alright, I like the "mayor", but I have to say that it is getting a little old re-hashing the same stories over and over and over again. Whether or not it is the same end around story or him being a force, Mayor you are consistently using paragraphs or sentences from the older posts or other stories you write...it is getting old.

You and Jasno must be from the same journalist school of boredom...I think there are so many more things we would like to hear about...for instance...

where the hell was MK12 on Sunday, why does Landry not live up to his hype, why the F would we activate BMW and not Rinehart - seriously, whatever happened to Kareem Moore, how is the OL holding up after the preseason injuries that we were concerned about, will we ever see M. Mitchell, why doesnt Blache play more aggressive or at least blitz more with the talent we have...

seriously if I read another post about ARE sucking up the end around or he is still here and thriving, Zorn's job status or the 2nd years need to step up, I am going to puke...try being a little more creative, please!

Posted by: mhartz1 | September 17, 2009 1:21 PM | Report abuse

I never saw ARE as a problem 'cept on punt returns. As a WR, he's been decent. He's a bit over his head at the #2 spot, but you need 3 WRs in this league. 600 yards 5 TDs from a #3 WR is nice production for a season .. and ARE is very capable of that.

Of course, if the #1 and #2 guys combine for under 20 yards, as they did in game 1 ... there would be your problem.

Posted by: zcezcest1 | September 17, 2009 1:22 PM | Report abuse

"The kid bleeds burgundy and gold. I know him personally, and he's also a decent human being. If you were a stranger on the street and needed a hand, he would be the first to help you"

Unless you're Antwan Randle El, of course. Then he'd stomp the snot out of you.

Posted by: Samson151 | September 17, 2009 1:24 PM | Report abuse

And we do need more guys stepping up, but part of that falls on Blache. If he stays conservative, then we'll continue having Orakpo, a DE, playing OLB in coverage rather than playing to his strength--killing QBs. QB pressure has to be constant, not just 3rd downs. Blache needs to start considering blitzes on 2nd down to set up 3rd&longs for us.

Posted by: pgugino | September 17, 2009 1:25 PM | Report abuse

ARE is an average player and I wish folks around here would finally see that. Moss is a solid #2 and ARE is a #4 on a good team. We don't have an elite receiver and that's been part of our problem.
When everyone is seeing JC hold the ball too long and the line is giving protection, it's because his receivers are not getting open. The starters should be Kelly and Moss but Kelly needs to be the prime target. Moss drops too many passes and is one dimensional.

Posted by: original_mark | September 17, 2009 1:25 PM | Report abuse

I've had it.

I DON'T CARE IF WE LOSE TO THE RAMS as long as we show some life. Roll the damn dice already.

Posted by: BrooklynSkins | September 17, 2009 1:26 PM | Report abuse

Apparently we only had one sack and two QB hits on Sunday. All 3 of them came from Andre Carter. Someone else needs to step up in that department.

Posted by: psps23 |

Someone did step up. Andre Carter. Carter also was the key to the INT. it was his pressure (orakpo also was putting pressure on) that had eli backpedaling, poor throw = INT

fwiw, I've never been right on this guy. When I think he's going to suck, he shows up. When I think he's going to show up, he disappears.

Posted by: zcezcest1 | September 17, 2009 1:27 PM | Report abuse

ARE is an average player and I wish folks around here would finally see that. Moss is a solid #2 and ARE is a #4 on a good team. We don't have an elite receiver and that's been part of our problem.
When everyone is seeing JC hold the ball too long and the line is giving protection, it's because his receivers are not getting open. The starters should be Kelly and Moss but Kelly needs to be the prime target. Moss drops too many passes and is one dimensional.

Posted by: original_mark | September 17, 2009 1:25 PM | Report abuse

I would point out that ARE was the No. 3 on the superbowl champ Steelers (probably considered a good team). Nothing in his play from Sunday would indicate that he's lost the ability to cause problems in the slot. I would also point out that there are not 32 "elite" receivers in the league. The Pats have won multiple superbowls without a receiver as talented as Moss.

Posted by: mhaslup1 | September 17, 2009 1:31 PM | Report abuse

"...The Rams really sucked last year..."

...so did Jenna Jamison.

And nobody in this blog complains about how she does her job.

(INSERT angry feminist shouts of "..sexist, vulgar, anti-woman..." to a worried chorus of annoyed complaints that this is a family blog.)

Posted by: MistaMoe | September 17, 2009 1:31 PM | Report abuse

"...The Rams really sucked last year..."

...so did Jenna Jamison.

And nobody in this blog complains about how she does her job.

Posted by: MistaMoe | September 17, 2009 1:31 PM | Report abuse

Yea but she's not a 300lb man

Posted by: PortisPocketsStr8 | September 17, 2009 1:34 PM | Report abuse

Here's my first series script

1st & 10 - Quick out to Kelly,gain 9 yards.
2 & 1 - Stretch run left to Portis,1 yd gain.
1 & 10 - quick slant to Moss, gain 4 yards
2 & 6 play action - Deep post ARE. TD

Posted by: TWISI | September 17, 2009 1:35 PM | Report abuse

Should we START to complain about how Jenna Jamison does her job?

Posted by: JohnDinHouston | September 17, 2009 1:36 PM | Report abuse

"...Randle El Remains a Force..."

That's true, he is a force.

With his power of "Fair Catch," he's able to stop a punt return for a touchdown at a single bound.

And if he's so good, let's put Moss--a quicker, more versitile player--in the slot and see what happens when a guy with speed gets free with the ball in the middle of the field.

As for right now, any team with a big corner is going to shut Moss down--like Corey Webster did last week.

Put Moss in the slot, then we'll see a force we can't contend with.

Posted by: MistaMoe | September 17, 2009 1:36 PM | Report abuse

johndinhouston

"...should we START to complain about how Jenna Jamison does her job?"

No, but I suggest we all put our money together to help her replace the kneepads she wears out on the regular.

Posted by: MistaMoe | September 17, 2009 1:39 PM | Report abuse

Scamp,

Guru says some stoooopid things. The man is an azzhat.

But he is a lifelong Redskins fan. The kid bleeds burgundy and gold. I know him personally, and he's also a decent human being. If you were a stranger on the street and needed a hand, he would be the first to help you.

Just sayin'

HTTR

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Posted by: Chia_Pet | September 17, 2009 12:30 PM

So... there!

Posted by: Sports_Guru | September 17, 2009 1:41 PM | Report abuse

Given the opportunity, we can complain about anything.

Come on, now, fellows, it's Jameson with an 'e.'

Posted by: NateinthePDX | September 17, 2009 1:44 PM | Report abuse

I knew I was making a spelling error on that - but I feared checking the correct spelling while I was at work.

Posted by: JohnDinHouston | September 17, 2009 1:47 PM | Report abuse

guru - you've been complimented by a clay figure. I'm not sure exactly how I'd feel about that.

Posted by: JohnDinHouston | September 17, 2009 1:48 PM | Report abuse

"And if he's so good, let's put Moss--a quicker, more versitile player--in the slot and see what happens when a guy with speed gets free with the ball in the middle of the field."

They probably will at some point. When they thing the defense won't simply make an adjustment.

Posted by: Samson151 | September 17, 2009 1:50 PM | Report abuse

The problem with him is he has never been a force with the Redskins.

Posted by: jmy999 | September 17, 2009 1:55 PM | Report abuse

blah, blah, blah, Antwaan Randle El, blah, blah, blah.

What I get when I read this post.

Posted by: _Stumped_ | September 17, 2009 2:08 PM | Report abuse

Chalk talk: Why the Redskins play off-man coverage
By: John Keim

Chalk Talk: Off-man coverage


DeAngelo Hall built his reputation in this coverage. It’s why he’s intercepted passes, received big contracts and earned a couple Pro Bowl berths.
So don’t expect the Redskins to change their philosophy of playing off-man coverage. They just need to play it better.
Besides, they like using this strategy. For starters, it enables them to provide a false look, as if they’re playing man only to drop into zone and vice versa. (However, in watching the Giants game, there were times, based on body language, it was clear they were in zone).
“We’re just trying to give [the quarterback] different looks,” said secondary coach Jerry Gray.
The problem comes in the execution. In the preseason the Redskins at times played too soft in the secondary with their coverages. It wasn’t always the starters, however. And in the 23-17 loss to the Giants even coach Jim Zorn said there was too much cushion at times.

Posted by: TWISI | September 17, 2009 2:09 PM | Report abuse

blah, blah, blah, Antwaan Randle El, blah, blah, blah.

What I get when I read this post.

http://www.voenixrising.com/images/far-side-what-dogs-hear.jpg

Posted by: _Stumped_ | September 17, 2009 2:09 PM | Report abuse

Gray disagrees with that assessment. Regardless, all agree that they must play it better.
Not everyone prefers playing off-man. Fred Smoot is better in press coverage, as is Justin Tryon. Rogers is probably the most adaptable. Against New York, though, it didn’t matter. There might have been two or three times any of the corners played press; Hall did it once (failing to get the jam on Steve Smith).
When in off-man, the defensive backs must read the quarterback first. It will provide clues to what route is coming. But once the quarterback hits his third step, if he’s not setting to throw, then the corner must lock onto the receiver.
“That’s where the weakness is,” Gray said. “Can you not focus on the QB and concentrate on the receiver? You can’t get mesmerized watching the quarterback all the time.
“If you see all the drops that means you’re watching the QB and you’re gonna see the receiver catching the football.”
The corners line up typically seven yards off the line and one yard inside the receiver; that’s the by-the-book alignment in off-man coverage. However, against New York, there were times they lined up nine yards deep – depending on down and distance. Occasionally it was eight yards.

Posted by: TWISI | September 17, 2009 2:10 PM | Report abuse

Said Hall, “It’s harder when you’re off. It’s all timing. You give a guy the alley to run clear straight at you and that ball is thrown before he turns around, you ain’t breaking that up unless he’s sitting on you.
“When you press, there’s no space. Can you catch a fade? Yeah. I might lose you at the line and downfield you might make a play. But all those intermediate routes, you’re playing off and hell, you’ve got eight yards and you’re running and I’m backpedaling so when you break, you turn right around and the ball is in the air and it’s harder for me to break and go.
Still, Hall likes playing off because it gives him the ability to read the play better. Which means more picks.
But, he said, “You can’t play off all the time either. We got sucked up into their game trying to figure out what they were doing to the left side, to the right side.”
Gray compared it to a basketball player being more comfortable scoring with his back to the basket compared to one who isn’t.
Some teams play mostly press (Oakland) while some play only off (Pittsburgh). In Atlanta, Hall made the Pro Bowl playing off-man; in Oakland he got cut playing a lot of press. It’s obviously much harder to press in this era because of the rules preventing contact after five yards.
“Now it’s all about athletic ability and if you don’t have that quickness, do you put a guy into the Lion’s den?” Gray said. “He’ll get killed if he’s not quick to get his hands on [the receiver].”
Indeed, Hall failed vs. Smith in press coverage because his shoulders turned at the line, allowing Smith to get inside.
“And a lot of guys when they play press can’t turn into a receiver when the ball is in the air and go get it,” Gray said. “A lot struggle with that. DeAngelo can play off; he has great vision. What you have to do is figure out when is it my time to go get that play compared to, is it my time to get it every time.
“You can challenge and press and do those things, you still have to make a play if you’re a defensive back.”

Posted by: TWISI | September 17, 2009 2:11 PM | Report abuse

Just a point: when you see a play that seems to be the logical thing to do in a given situation, it's probably exactly what the defense is expecting, too.

Posted by: Samson151 | September 17, 2009 2:12 PM | Report abuse

Man, why did we ever play ARE on the outside... all those games when we had ARE and Thrash (or whoever) lined up on the right, basically conceding that side of the field to the defense... ugh...

Posted by: NateinthePDX

cause we only had 2 (competent) WRs

Posted by: pabrian2003 | September 17, 2009 2:14 PM | Report abuse

Appropriate sideline wear:

Belicheat = hoodie

Zorn = snuggie


I'm thinking the new leopard print?

Posted by: stevek20147 | September 17, 2009 2:15 PM | Report abuse

another point - when you run right up the middle on the the first play from scrimmage, from a run formation, and it goes for 34 yards and is almost broken for a TD against a division rival on the road.

run it again and again until they stop it

Posted by: pabrian2003 | September 17, 2009 2:17 PM | Report abuse

Sometimes, you just have to eat the groceries you've bought.

Over the past two seasons, by draft and or roster selection, the redskins have invested in four young pass catchers: Thomas, Davis, Kelly, Mitchell.

At some time, the team has to get some kind of return from the investment it's made in these players...

...'cuz soon, like unused food, they'll sit so long no one will want or have use for them.

Git the young'ns on the field and throw them the ball!!!

Posted by: MistaMoe | September 17, 2009 2:18 PM | Report abuse

fans complain about Rodgers for not being able to catch, so they get Hall, and then they complain cause he can't tackle.

I'll take a CB that can cover and tackle over one that can catch any day of the week.

Rodgers was awesome considering his lack of pre season playing time.

Posted by: pabrian2003 | September 17, 2009 2:20 PM | Report abuse

Appropriate sideline wear:

Belicheat = hoodie

Zorn = snuggie

I'm thinking the new leopard print?

Posted by: stevek20147
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Zorn will soon be looking for the Klingon cloaking device. He can borrow it from our offense.

Posted by: chasgiffen | September 17, 2009 2:21 PM | Report abuse

moe - Kelly did play which opened it up for ARE

boo ya

Posted by: pabrian2003 | September 17, 2009 2:22 PM | Report abuse

moe, amen bro, amen....

take the fargin training wheels off, and throw the ball, throw it until jc gets dead arm...the team drafted these guys for a reason, lets use the assets we have...

Posted by: BeantownGreg1 | September 17, 2009 2:22 PM | Report abuse

I liked Keim's Chalk Talk (thx TWISI) and I think Gray is one helluva coach... but Zorn was right. We DID play too soft against them. We didn't challenge them enough with the press. If Hall can't press, get him the hell out of the play. I don't have a problem with off coverage, but our execution was not good. And, it was worsened by our lack of pressure at the line.

Posted by: pgugino | September 17, 2009 2:32 PM | Report abuse

...'cuz soon, like unused food, they'll sit so long no one will want or have use for them.

Posted by: MistaMoe

Unless they're canned food.

Posted by: RedDMV | September 17, 2009 2:33 PM | Report abuse

is scrapple canned?

Posted by: BeantownGreg1 | September 17, 2009 2:35 PM | Report abuse

Man, why did we ever play ARE on the outside... all those games when we had ARE and Thrash (or whoever) lined up on the right, basically conceding that side of the field to the defense... ugh...

Posted by: NateinthePDX | September 17, 2009 1:02 PM

"(or whoever)"...I like it. It's the new catch-all for "Receiver, The; Gardner, Rod; Taylor Jacobs; 'Darkerian' McCants; David Patten; Reche Caldwell"

Posted by: 4-12 | September 17, 2009 2:35 PM | Report abuse

I think anything more frivolous that's advertised on TV than a snuggie.

Get a comforter, some PJs, and some 'Homer Simpson' slippers and you'll be sung and toasty.

If you're that cold in the first place.

Posted by: RedDMV | September 17, 2009 2:37 PM | Report abuse

Jim Zorn invented the snuggie

Posted by: PortisPocketsStr8 | September 17, 2009 2:43 PM | Report abuse

No, scrapple is not canned, BEAN! lol...

Scrapple is fired... in a pan. Served with cheese eggs or fried eggs, corn beef hash, fried potatoes, pancakes with Aunt Jemima syrup, and a glass of whole milk.

I heard that 'Aunt Jemima' is considered racilly offensive... ufb...

AJ over Mrs. Butterworth and day... Butterworth isn't sweet enough.

Posted by: RedDMV | September 17, 2009 2:47 PM | Report abuse

F James...

Posted by: RedDMV | September 17, 2009 2:49 PM | Report abuse

Don't eat canned scrapple!! (never seen it, actually). Get it from the freezer section.

It's fully pre-cooked, but still. I wouldn't trust it if you found it canned. It's not like potted meat product (spam).

Posted by: DikShuttle | September 17, 2009 2:49 PM | Report abuse

redDMV

"I(can't) think anything more frivolous that's advertised on TV than a snuggie...."


What about those Billy Mays' commercials where what he's selling costs $19.95?

Those of us who know what Billy Mays died of, know that you can't get a good bag of the white stuff for $19.95.

Posted by: MistaMoe | September 17, 2009 2:50 PM | Report abuse

blah, blah, blah, Antwaan Randle El, blah, blah, blah.

What I get when I read this post.

http://www.voenixrising.com/images/far-side-what-dogs-hear.jpg

Posted by: _Stumped_

Thanks Stumped. Probably my favorite Far Side

Posted by: zcezcest1 | September 17, 2009 2:52 PM | Report abuse

Jim Zorn invented the snuggie

Posted by: PortisPocketsStr8 | September 17, 2009 2:43 PM
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I'm feeling it... Zorn jokes... kinda tha anti-Leigh Torrence jokes...

Bring it!

Posted by: DikShuttle | September 17, 2009 2:53 PM | Report abuse

oh yes,

RIP Henry Gibson and Mary Travers. You both made my world a better place.

Posted by: zcezcest1 | September 17, 2009 2:56 PM | Report abuse

scrapple scrapple ( in place of beep beep)

Posted by: BeantownGreg1 | September 17, 2009 2:58 PM | Report abuse

Those of us who know what Billy Mays died of, know that you can't get a good bag of the white stuff for $19.95.

Posted by: MistaMoe | September 17, 2009 2:50 PM | Report abuse

Well, you CAN - it just won't last very long.

Posted by: JohnDinHouston | September 17, 2009 2:58 PM | Report abuse

BILLY MAYS HERE! I HAVE A DEAL OF THE YEAR FOR YOU! NOW FOR THREE EASY PAYMENTS OF $19.95 YOU CAN GET A FREE BAG OF WHITE POWDER! ORDER NOW AND I WILL THROW IN A JIM ZORN, REDSKINS SNUGGIE FOR FREE!

Posted by: alex35332 | September 17, 2009 3:03 PM | Report abuse

Dik, ain't no such thing as canned scrapple. The only thing that's close is spam.

I can't think of what's worse, fried spam or fried bologna.

All of the above is poor man's food.

Canned WR's:

Kelly - Chicken Soup
Thomas - Beefaroni/Ravioli
Davis - Baked Beans
Marko - Clam Chowder


Zorn - Devil Ham/Potted Meat

Posted by: RedDMV | September 17, 2009 3:06 PM | Report abuse

... and keep it up for 60 minutes.

Posted by: Original_etrod | September 17, 2009 12:03 PM

That's what she said.

Posted by: dcsween | September 17, 2009 3:15 PM | Report abuse

Posted by: alex35332 | September 17, 2009 3:03 PM

Through in a couple of Sham Wows and the Quick Chop and we'll talk.

Posted by: dcsween | September 17, 2009 3:18 PM | Report abuse

This blog is s joke right?

I don't ever recall anyone putting ARE and "force" in the same sentence, like ever.

The last coach in Washington that used that on a player was Eddie Jordan about Etan Thomas.

Now both are gone.

- Ray

Posted by: rmcazz | September 17, 2009 6:07 PM | Report abuse

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