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Redskins add Sean McVay as offensive assistant

As previously reported, the Redskins have retained Steve Jackson as safeties coach, and the team today also announced the hiring of Sean McVay as an offensive assistant.

Jackson has coached the team's safeties since 2004. New Coach Mike Shanahan earlier this week informed Jackson he would be retained. Jackson joins Danny Smith and Kirk Olivadotti as the other longtime Redskins assistants who will remain with the team.

"Steve brings a great knowledge of the defensive backfield and has a good feel for our current personnel," Shanahan said in a statement. "He is an excellent teacher and will be instrumental to what we are trying to accomplish defensively in Washington."

McVay worked under Jim Haslett, the Redskins' new defensive coordinator, last season with the Florida Tuskers of the United Football League. McVay served as an offensive quality control coach with the Tuskers and worked as a offensive with the Tampa Bay Buccaneers in 2008.

"Sean is a young, energetic coach who comes from a great football background," Shanahan said in the news release about the staff moves. "We are excited to have him on our staff."

By Jason Reid  |  January 22, 2010; 3:33 PM ET
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Comments

sounds like a great hire! not!

Posted by: zyvo23 | January 22, 2010 3:37 PM | Report abuse

Why did they retain the coach of the weakest part of the defense?

Posted by: Bigfoot_has_a_posse | January 22, 2010 3:37 PM | Report abuse

because he wasn't the one making the decision to use LL30 at FS when he's really a SS... that was *cough*BLACHE*cough*

Posted by: narielnasl | January 22, 2010 3:44 PM | Report abuse

Hey, is this a Redskins blog? Why can't we have more info about the Seahawks?

Posted by: League-Source | January 22, 2010 3:45 PM | Report abuse

...worked as a offensive with the Tampa Bay Buccaneers in 2008.

Offensive what? Or was he just offensive?

Posted by: RedSkinHead | January 22, 2010 3:45 PM | Report abuse

Why did they retain the coach of the weakest part of the defense?

Posted by: Bigfoot_has_a_posse | January 22, 2010 3:37 PM

Because he made silk purses out of sow's ears with Doughty, Horton. Hope all the coaches can do as well as he did.

Posted by: League-Source | January 22, 2010 3:46 PM | Report abuse

Hey, is this a Redskins blog? Why can't we have more info about the Seahawks?

Posted by: League-Source | January 22, 2010 3:45 PM
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Not as much dysfunctional owner news in Seattle...

Posted by: RedSkinHead | January 22, 2010 3:46 PM | Report abuse

League-Source said it...

Posted by: p1funk | January 22, 2010 3:49 PM | Report abuse

"...the team today also announced the hiring of Sean McVay as an offensive assistant."


If they want a real offensive assistant, they need to hire RedDMV...don't get much more offensive than that...

Posted by: p1funk | January 22, 2010 3:51 PM | Report abuse

I like....Future HEad Coach in the making...

Book it!

Posted by: 4thFloor | January 22, 2010 3:51 PM | Report abuse

I'm sure the UFL's Florida Tuskers could have beaten the '09 version of the Skins with Jason Campbell at QB. Not sure if they could beat the Colts or Saints, however

Posted by: dc1020008 | January 22, 2010 3:52 PM | Report abuse

I waited all day for this ground breaking news??? LAME.

Posted by: 4SkinzForever | January 22, 2010 4:01 PM | Report abuse

Isn't the title of offensive assistant on most teams equal to a paid intern or a gopher

Posted by: alex35332 | January 22, 2010 4:02 PM | Report abuse

McVay served as an offensive quality control coach with the Tuskers and worked as a offensive with the Tampa Bay Buccaneers in 2008.


Worked as a offensive with the Tampa Bay Buccaneers in 2008.
1. That should be "an" offensive
2. Something should come after offensive

JReid----proofread dude

Posted by: iH8dallas | January 22, 2010 4:02 PM | Report abuse

I waited all day for this ground breaking news??? LAME.

Posted by: 4SkinzForever

Go somewhere else then, crybaby.

Posted by: Rypien11 | January 22, 2010 4:07 PM | Report abuse

So, still now WR Coach... To me its a no brainer, if Sherm Lewis is all that I've heard he is... I do think there was a considerable difference in the production and involvement of the young WR's once Sherm L got involved. D. Thomas stepped up big time. M. Kelly became more involved. M. Mitchell about the same.

So, why is that?

Posted by: EinVB | January 22, 2010 4:09 PM | Report abuse

Quick question this Sean McVay the same as the son of Tim and Cindy McVay; grandfather, John McVay (One time GM of the 49ers?)

Posted by: alex35332 | January 22, 2010 4:09 PM | Report abuse

The whole blog is sucking ape nuts today. From Reid and his people to the hamster fiends.

WEAK today man, WEAK!!!!

Posted by: RedDMV | January 22, 2010 4:10 PM | Report abuse

mcVays brother Tim was brainwashed by the CIA to blow things up, Jesse Venturas conspiracy theory suggests.

Posted by: pabrian2003 | January 22, 2010 4:12 PM | Report abuse

Did Steve Jackson work as a defensive??

Posted by: RedskinJim1 | January 22, 2010 4:13 PM | Report abuse

Why did they retain the coach of the weakest part of the defense?

Posted by: Bigfoot_has_a_posse | January 22, 2010 3:37 PM

Because he made silk purses out of sow's ears with Doughty, Horton. Hope all the coaches can do as well as he did.

Posted by: League-Source | January 22, 2010 3:46 PM | Report abuse

OK, makes sense. Even though I don't think Horton is all that great. Doughty's a beast though.

Posted by: Bigfoot_has_a_posse | January 22, 2010 4:13 PM | Report abuse

FYI further research indicates that Sean McVay has experience coaching WR's with the UFL, for what that is worth.

His grandfather was a great front office man, can he get out of that shadow?

Posted by: alex35332 | January 22, 2010 4:13 PM | Report abuse

Quick question this Sean McVay the same as the son of Tim and Cindy McVay; grandfather, John McVay (One time GM of the 49ers?)

Posted by: alex35332 | January 22, 2010 4:09 PM | Report abuse

I think it's Swift McVay's son from D-12

Posted by: iH8dallas | January 22, 2010 4:14 PM | Report abuse

The whole blog is sucking ape nuts today. From Reid and his people to the hamster fiends.

WEAK today man, WEAK!!!!

Posted by: RedDMV | January 22, 2010 4:10 PM | Report abuse

Dude its a friday on the off season, your no noobe you know what that means.

Posted by: alex35332 | January 22, 2010 4:15 PM | Report abuse

actually IH8, I was asking a real question. Google him. If he does come from that background than I am going to call that interesting.

Posted by: alex35332 | January 22, 2010 4:17 PM | Report abuse

I'm not sure how many games we will win next season, but we are going to be outcoaching everyone!

Posted by: pabrian2003 | January 22, 2010 4:18 PM | Report abuse

"Sean is a young, energetic coach who comes from a great football background," Shanahan said in the news release about the staff moves. "We are excited to have him on our staff."

HELLO THE DUDE IS 23! That probably should have been mentioned.

Posted by: Diesel44 | January 22, 2010 4:20 PM | Report abuse

I'm not sure how many games we will win next season, but we are going to be outcoaching everyone!

Posted by: pabrian2003 | January 22, 2010 4:18 PM | Report abuse

Better than trying to beat em with the swing gate and the Elpowerpuntreturner.

Posted by: alex35332 | January 22, 2010 4:22 PM | Report abuse

Did Steve Jackson work as a defensive??

No, he worked as an defensive.

Posted by: frediefritz | January 22, 2010 4:22 PM | Report abuse

I'm not sure how many games we will win next season, but we are going to be outcoaching everyone!

Posted by: pabrian2003 | January 22, 2010 4:18 PM | Report abuse

Yes, this is a sure fire way to win.

Step 1: Get an old coach out of retirement and pay him handsomely because he won a superbowl.

Step 2: Hire an offensive coordinator that lead one of the best passing offenses in the NFL.

Step 3: 600 page play book...Awww Crap!!!

Posted by: PAskinsfan17 | January 22, 2010 4:22 PM | Report abuse

Quick question this Sean McVay the same as the son of Tim and Cindy McVay; grandfather, John McVay (One time GM of the 49ers?)

Posted by: alex35332 | January 22, 2010 4:09 PM | Report abuse

Yes, here's the link.

http://www.muredhawks.com/sports/m-footbl/mtt/mcvay_sean00.html

Posted by: Diesel44 | January 22, 2010 4:22 PM | Report abuse

My question is, where are we going to find our next bingo caller?

Posted by: skinsfanintampa | January 22, 2010 4:22 PM | Report abuse

Don't get angry at me Rypien11 ... It's not my fault your male genitalia is smaller than Zorn's winning percentage!

Posted by: 4SkinzForever | January 22, 2010 4:25 PM | Report abuse

Shanahan said in a statement. "He is an excellent teacher and will be instrumental to what we are trying to accomplish defensively in Washington."
The key word is defensively.... No one has noticed this yet...... I have to say that this is a little confusing....... How is he going to be an offensive assistant but be instrumental in what they are trying to accomplish DEFENSIVELY?????

Posted by: PanteraCFH | January 22, 2010 4:27 PM | Report abuse

alex- I saw Tim McVay and automatically thought of Oklahoma City. Thought it was a joke, my bad

Posted by: iH8dallas | January 22, 2010 4:27 PM | Report abuse

Posted by: PanteraCFH | January 22, 2010 4:27 PM

You take this POST, POST, POST...you take this POST and misread it. He's talking about Jackson.

"This Post" by Pantera.

Posted by: Diesel44 | January 22, 2010 4:33 PM | Report abuse

alex- I saw Tim McVay and automatically thought of Oklahoma City. Thought it was a joke, my bad

Posted by: iH8dallas | January 22, 2010 4:27 PM | Report abuse

Understandable, I mean I did not name the guy.

Has to suck having the same name as one of the worst human beings to ever live.

Posted by: alex35332 | January 22, 2010 4:36 PM | Report abuse

Understandable, I mean I did not name the guy.

Has to suck having the same name as one of the worst human beings to ever live.

Posted by: alex35332 | January 22, 2010 4:36 PM | Report abuse

I know right, I feel sorry for any other coach that goes by the name Zorn,James

Posted by: iH8dallas | January 22, 2010 4:49 PM | Report abuse

I'm not sure how many games we will win next season, but we are going to be outcoaching everyone!

Posted by: pabrian2003 | January 22, 2010 4:18 PM

Let me help you finish this-

I'm not sure how many games we will win next season, but we are going to be outcoaching everyone that coached the Redskins last season!

Posted by: Skins930 | January 22, 2010 4:54 PM | Report abuse

Shanahan said in a statement. "He is an excellent teacher and will be instrumental to what we are trying to accomplish defensively in Washington."
The key word is defensively.... No one has noticed this yet...... I have to say that this is a little confusing....... How is he going to be an offensive assistant but be instrumental in what they are trying to accomplish DEFENSIVELY?????

Posted by: PanteraCFH | January 22, 2010 4:27 PM

He was talking about Steve Jackson the safeties coach.

Posted by: TWISI | January 22, 2010 5:05 PM | Report abuse

An interesting fun fact. BMW and Kyle Shanahan were teammates at U of Texas.

Posted by: TWISI | January 22, 2010 5:08 PM | Report abuse

Cmon guys ease up on J.Reid. He is much better than that retard lookin J.LALAconfora. J.Reid is the best. And i'm sorry I offended the gay people that responded to my comments. Hopefully i'm not suspended without pay from this board.

Now for this Sean McVay guy. We should have no comment on this guy because has done absolutely nothing to cheer or boo about. He will be just another guy on the sidelines with Redskin gear on.

Posted by: ATLredskin | January 22, 2010 5:12 PM | Report abuse

QB prospect: My choice to work with the Shanny's for the next two years. Review from the Shrine practice today.

Skelton drills

Fordham QB John Skelton is still a little inaccurate, still a little lazy at times with his feet, but there is no question about his arm. It's just unreal. His arm is intriguing, his size (6-5, 245 pounds) is intriguing and the size of his hands and the way the ball comes out is intriguing, but his footwork is very lazy. It's going to take a lot of hands-on coaching to fix some of the mechanical problems. But then he does something like he just did in a passing drill where he zips the ball in a very tight window and it makes you look at him again. He just has a rifle for an arm and can get it in tight windows that not every QB can hit.

Posted by: TWISI | January 22, 2010 5:13 PM | Report abuse

It's going to take a lot of hands-on coaching to fix some of the mechanical problems.

Posted by: TWISI | January 22, 2010 5:13 PM

This sounds like a job for Jim Zorn!

Posted by: League-Source | January 22, 2010 5:20 PM | Report abuse

It's going to take a lot of hands-on coaching to fix some of the mechanical problems.

Posted by: TWISI | January 22, 2010 5:13 PM

This sounds like a job for Jim Zorn!
Posted by: League-Source | January 22, 2010 5:20 PM

Bite your tongue LS. I wouldn't wish that on this guy. Seriously, if Skelton shows he can compete against the big boys (read coverage, lead the team), I hope the Skins draft him on Day 3 of the draft.

Posted by: TWISI | January 22, 2010 5:24 PM | Report abuse

Seriously, if Skelton shows he can compete against the big boys (read coverage, lead the team), I hope the Skins draft him on Day 3 of the draft.

Posted by: TWISI | January 22, 2010 5:24 PM

What will really help him to come around faster is if some guys stand around him and throw beach balls at him while he's in the pocket.

Posted by: League-Source | January 22, 2010 5:27 PM | Report abuse

Redskins Outsider continues to be written without any regard for grammar or proofreading, but the page gets so many visitors that the Post doesn't care. Today's gem:

"and worked as a offensive with..."

Posted by: cali_snowboarder | January 22, 2010 5:29 PM | Report abuse

Fordham QB John Skelton is still a little inaccurate, still a little lazy at times with his feet, but there is no question about his arm. It's just unreal. His arm is intriguing, his size (6-5, 245 pounds) is intriguing and the size of his hands and the way the ball comes out is intriguing, but his footwork is very lazy. It's going to take a lot of hands-on coaching to fix some of the mechanical problems. But then he does something like he just did in a passing drill where he zips the ball in a very tight window and it makes you look at him again. He just has a rifle for an arm and can get it in tight windows that not every QB can hit.

Posted by: TWISI | January 22, 2010 5:13 PM

Isn't that pretty much what they were saying about Soups during his practices. Look how that worked out.

Posted by: HPYTRKR1 | January 22, 2010 5:30 PM | Report abuse

Sean McVay is 23!! Inexcusable for JR not to mention this. Basically this dude is going to be a gopher and was not necessarily hired to be an offensive assistant.

Posted by: Diesel44 | January 22, 2010 5:34 PM | Report abuse

Redskins Outsider continues to be written without any regard for grammar or proofreading, but the page gets so many visitors that the Post doesn't care. Today's gem:

"and worked as a offensive with..."

Posted by: cali_snowboarder | January 22, 2010 5:29 PM

You know, if you were right about "without any regard for proofreading or grammar" there would be an error or two in every sentence. Your post was written without any regard for logic.

Posted by: League-Source | January 22, 2010 5:34 PM | Report abuse

Posted by: HPYTRKR1 | January 22, 2010 5:30 PM

JC is what he is. He was never a first round prospect coming out of college. The Redskins just over drafted him because Gibbs fell in love with him. Moreover, Skelton is considered to be a developmental prospect, so he will so some weaknesses to his game. What I hope is that if coached up, Skelton would be able to tap into his athletic potential as a pro. I'm hoping the Skins will be that team to enhance his skills making him a solid starter. Having the same offensive philosophy for more than a year or two would help in Skelton's development.

Posted by: TWISI | January 22, 2010 5:37 PM | Report abuse

I think it's Swift McVay's son from D-12

Posted by: iH8dallas | January 22, 2010 4:14 PM

Dude, you sunk my battleship!

Posted by: dcsween | January 22, 2010 5:37 PM | Report abuse

Sean McVay is 23!! Inexcusable for JR not to mention this. Basically this dude is going to be a gopher and was not necessarily hired to be an offensive assistant.

Posted by: Diesel44 | January 22, 2010 5:34 PM

Hey, he's 24 on Sunday. Does seem odd to think of Chris Cooley, Fred Davis taking coaching from a 24-year-old. But, yeah, "young and energetic" are two good qualities in a goffer.

Posted by: League-Source | January 22, 2010 5:40 PM | Report abuse

Sean McVay is 23!! Inexcusable for JR not to mention this. Basically this dude is going to be a gopher and was not necessarily hired to be an offensive assistant.

Posted by: Diesel44 | January 22, 2010 5:34 PM

Relax. His job is going to be called Quality Contol - Offense, which basically means he scouts film of the upcoming teams they play so that coaches can start game planning on Monday morning's after a game. Most of his job is the game film he presents on Monday mornings.

Posted by: dcsween | January 22, 2010 5:40 PM | Report abuse

Most of his job is the game film he presents on Monday mornings.

Posted by: dcsween | January 22, 2010 5:40 PM

God, that would be a scarey job -- presenting game film to Mike Shanahan? I'd rather be the guy who brings in the still-hot Krispy Kremes.

Posted by: League-Source | January 22, 2010 5:43 PM | Report abuse

I've always liked how J Reid can criticize a guy like Portis, who is around the top 25 leading rushers of all time, but then not even proof read his own work. Reid also makes claims w/o any thing to back it up. Like, he lost his 'burst'? How about,"he lost his 'burst' an you can see what I'm saying by reviewing the game at 12:23 of the 3 rd quarter. "

Its cool to post opinion but give something to back it, or qualify it as purely opinion.

Just sayin'

Posted by: pabrian2003 | January 22, 2010 5:44 PM | Report abuse

JC is what he is. He was never a first round prospect coming out of college. The Redskins just over drafted him because Gibbs fell in love with him.

Posted by: TWISI | January 22, 2010 5:37 PM

Hindsight is 20/20 and everything is relative. Alex Smith and Aaron Rodgers were drafted before Jason Campbell (1st round). Other QBs drafted that year were: Charlie Frye, Andrew Walter, David Green, Kyle Orton, Stefon LeFours, Dan Orlovsky, Adrian McPherson, Derek Anderson, Matt Cassel, and Ryan Fitzpatrick. It was not a memorable year for QBs ... but it was the year just after Eli, Rivers, Big Ben, Losman, Schaub ... and you don't know what there is till they play anyway.

Posted by: dcsween | January 22, 2010 5:45 PM | Report abuse

Hey, anybody up here heard Prince's ode to the Minnesota Vikings?

http://www.dlisted.com/node/35741

As far as battle songs go, I'm thinking this is kinda weak?

Posted by: Chia_Pet | January 22, 2010 5:45 PM | Report abuse

... I'd rather be the guy who brings in the still-hot Krispy Kremes.

Posted by: League-Source | January 22, 2010 5:43 PM

... or in the case of Charlie Weis in New England, the guy who comes in with powdered sugar on his chin and reports that Krispy Kremes was sold out.

Posted by: dcsween | January 22, 2010 5:47 PM | Report abuse

Yeah, anyway... my newborn baby seems to like the song.

Posted by: Chia_Pet | January 22, 2010 5:48 PM | Report abuse

As far as battle songs go, I'm thinking this is kinda weak?

Posted by: Chia_Pet | January 22, 2010 5:45 PM |

Some Vikings seem to have the same sentiments.

Posted by: HPYTRKR1 | January 22, 2010 5:49 PM | Report abuse

I've always liked how J Reid can criticize a guy like Portis, who is around the top 25 leading rushers of all time, but then not even proof read his own work. Reid also makes claims w/o any thing to back it up. Like, he lost his 'burst'? How about,"he lost his 'burst' an you can see what I'm saying by reviewing the game at 12:23 of the 3 rd quarter. "

Its cool to post opinion but give something to back it, or qualify it as purely opinion.

Just sayin'

Posted by: pabrian2003 | January 22, 2010 5:44 PM


Boring. Going after a guy for weak proofreading in a blog is pretty small. It's even smaller when you haven't done a competent job of proofreading your own work. You've got a question mark where you shouldn't, you don't have one where you should, and you left a "d" off "and." Why don't you go get your own house in order before coming after Reid?

Posted by: League-Source | January 22, 2010 5:53 PM | Report abuse

"Our spirits may be tired, our bodies may be worn. We come in the name of the Purple and Gold. All of the odds are in our favor."

Hip Hip Hooray!

Posted by: Chia_Pet | January 22, 2010 5:53 PM | Report abuse

"As we approach the throne, we won't bow down. We're ready to fight the elegant war. We're ready to hear the crowd roar!"

Posted by: Chia_Pet | January 22, 2010 5:56 PM | Report abuse

"Our spirits may be tired, our bodies may be worn. We come in the name of the Purple and Gold. All of the odds are in our favor."

Hip Hip Hooray!

Posted by: Chia_Pet | January 22, 2010 5:53 PM

Almost as bad as...

Kick em in the mud, kick em in the dirt, get up honky, you ain't hurt.

Posted by: Diesel44 | January 22, 2010 5:58 PM | Report abuse

anyone see Charly Murphy's true hollywood stories where Prince whooped him in b-ball and then made him pancakes?

Good sh!t, its gotta be true, you can't make that stuff up

Posted by: pabrian2003 | January 22, 2010 5:58 PM | Report abuse

pabrain,
I saw that...it was surreal and the funniest thing ever.

And no one could make it up.

Posted by: _Stumped_ | January 22, 2010 6:00 PM | Report abuse

Never heard that.

but Prince is awesome, anyway you slice it.

I never took him for the football, or basketball type though.

Posted by: Chia_Pet | January 22, 2010 6:02 PM | Report abuse

Vikings win the Superbowl.

Book it.

Posted by: Chia_Pet | January 22, 2010 6:05 PM | Report abuse

Chia,
I could listen to the thing.

Posted by: _Stumped_ | January 22, 2010 6:05 PM | Report abuse

Posted by: _Stumped_ | January 22, 2010 6:07 PM | Report abuse

Agreed stumped.

I dig the song.

It's quite uplifting.

Posted by: Chia_Pet | January 22, 2010 6:09 PM | Report abuse

Gotta love these canned press release statements we've been getting about the new hires...

"This guy is great, blah, blah, blah...we're gald to have him on the team, blah, blah, blah...what a great addtion...."

and they are all quoted as "Shanahan said via a press release"...

Does anyone think he really said these things or (like me) do you think these were all just written by the team's PR machine??

Am I the only one noticing this trend here on RI?

Posted by: rot8tor_man | January 22, 2010 6:10 PM | Report abuse

Hey, anybody up here heard Prince's ode to the Minnesota Vikings?

http://www.dlisted.com/node/35741

As far as battle songs go, I'm thinking this is kinda weak?

Posted by: Chia_Pet | January 22, 2010 5:45 PM

I couldn't make it past the 45 sec. mark. I'd rather be waterboarded.

Posted by: Diesel44 | January 22, 2010 6:10 PM | Report abuse

Chappelle is a genius.

Posted by: _Stumped_ | January 22, 2010 6:11 PM | Report abuse

Chappelle is a genius.

Posted by: _Stumped_ | January 22, 2010 6:16 PM | Report abuse

League source even smaller to go after me Im not a pro, you must be a huge loser to have to take issue with my comment

I said, just sayin

Posted by: pabrian2003 | January 22, 2010 6:18 PM | Report abuse

Oh yeah, BTW... waterboarding is NOT torture.

That's what you call making nice with your enemy.

Posted by: Chia_Pet | January 22, 2010 6:18 PM | Report abuse

Chia_Pet is now a Chia_Dad?! Congrats my man!

Posted by: 4-12 | January 22, 2010 6:19 PM | Report abuse

league u got a ? In da wrong place too

Just sayin'

Posted by: pabrian2003 | January 22, 2010 6:22 PM | Report abuse

Thanks, 4-12.

Hail, Trojans!

and the chia family is moving back to the DC Metro area, unfortunately...

Posted by: Chia_Pet | January 22, 2010 6:23 PM | Report abuse

Redskins keep picking up people... Perhaps they could let a few go now... like CP26 and JC17.

Posted by: Vic1 | January 22, 2010 6:25 PM | Report abuse

League source even smaller to go after me Im not a pro, you must be a huge loser to have to take issue with my comment

I said, just sayin

Posted by: pabrian2003 | January 22, 2010 6:18 PM

pabrian2003 you're coming across like a hypocritical F stick. Just sayin'.

Posted by: mack1 | January 22, 2010 6:26 PM | Report abuse

League source even smaller to go after me Im not a pro, you must be a huge loser to have to take issue with my comment

I said, just sayin

Posted by: pabrian2003 | January 22, 2010 6:18 PM

Considering I don't have a donkey in this race...I'm going to have to go with L-S.

pab- You know you can't call someone out for a mistake and then make the same mistake.

Step up your game and get over 17 & 26.

Posted by: Diesel44 | January 22, 2010 6:31 PM | Report abuse

that was *cough*BLACHE*cough*

Posted by: narielnasl

Blache, pronounced, " *uck-up! "

Posted by: 1965skinsfan | January 22, 2010 6:31 PM | Report abuse

Fordham QB John Skelton is still a little inaccurate, still a little lazy at times with his feet, but there is no question about his arm. It's just unreal. His arm is intriguing, his size (6-5, 245 pounds) is intriguing and the size of his hands and the way the ball comes out is intriguing, but his footwork is very lazy. It's going to take a lot of hands-on coaching to fix some of the mechanical problems. But then he does something like he just did in a passing drill where he zips the ball in a very tight window and it makes you look at him again. He just has a rifle for an arm and can get it in tight windows that not every QB can hit.

Posted by: TWISI | January 22, 2010 5:13 PM

Isn't that pretty much what they were saying about Soups during his practices. Look how that worked out.

Posted by: HPYTRKR1 | January 22, 2010 5:30 PM
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There's a saying where I come from "I'd rather tame a tiger than goose a mouse". The Redskins don't need any more mice. They need a quarterback that lives in the weight room and is full of piss and vinegar. They need a tiger, the kind of guy who has command of the offense. We've had too much of the "huddle whisperer".

Posted by: RedSkinHead | January 22, 2010 6:38 PM | Report abuse

Chia, that means you'll be a candidate for the next RI meet-up in the DC metro area. So you got that goin' for ya.

Also, I would like someone to deliver me a still-hot Krispy Kreme.

Posted by: NateinthePDX | January 22, 2010 6:40 PM | Report abuse

Also, I would like someone to deliver me a still-hot Krispy Kreme.

Posted by: NateinthePDX

when they are hot, not much better, but how about Voo Doo doughnuts in Portland?

Posted by: 1965skinsfan | January 22, 2010 6:47 PM | Report abuse

For sure, Nate.

Looking forward to the next shabingus.

Posted by: Chia_Pet | January 22, 2010 6:48 PM | Report abuse

oh I can do what I want b itches. If j Reid can do it and get paid I can do it for my own amusement and you guys all do it too

F all yall, a couple people already made the same-ish comments and you guys jump on me? F U and the broncos you rode in on.

If I was getting paid, I would proof'reid' my sh!t

Posted by: pabrian2003 | January 22, 2010 6:58 PM | Report abuse

You got it, 1965! I took our man kost52 to Voodoo when he was here visiting last month. I had the maple bacon donut, and kost had some kind of banana fritter thing.

We stood out on the sidewalk and ate our donuts, standing under the marquee of the adult theater next door to Voodoo because it was raining. Ah, Portland.

Posted by: NateinthePDX | January 22, 2010 7:00 PM | Report abuse

Posted by: pabrian2003 | January 22, 2010 6:58 PM

Lighten up Francis..

Posted by: Diesel44 | January 22, 2010 7:00 PM | Report abuse

I said 'just sayin' dam u

Posted by: pabrian2003 | January 22, 2010 7:01 PM | Report abuse

"QB prospect: My choice to work with the Shanny's for the next two years. Review from the Shrine practice today.

Skelton drills

Fordham QB John Skelton is still a little inaccurate, still a little lazy at times with his feet, but there is no question about his arm. It's just unreal. His arm is intriguing, his size (6-5, 245 pounds) is intriguing and the size of his hands and the way the ball comes out is intriguing, but his footwork is very lazy. It's going to take a lot of hands-on coaching to fix some of the mechanical problems. But then he does something like he just did in a passing drill where he zips the ball in a very tight window and it makes you look at him again. He just has a rifle for an arm and can get it in tight windows that not every QB can hit."

Hunh. Sounds like Jeff George.

And RSH, I doubt Peyton Manning, Drew Brees, Tom Brady, Ben Roethlisberger, Brett Favre or any of the best QBs you can think of 'live in the weight room.' Live in the film room maybe. Brady Quinn lives in the weight room though, is that who we should go after?

Posted by: ts35 | January 22, 2010 7:01 PM | Report abuse

wife's from Oregon, Newport. Portland is nice I think. Maple and bacon is really good tegether. I heard the owners can marry people there too. Interesting place.

Posted by: 1965skinsfan | January 22, 2010 7:22 PM | Report abuse

mistamoe is on the beat......

You want Iupati more than Okung?

Yes.

Who's the best player in the draft?

Spiller

Will Favre and Manning win this weekend?

Sure.

Bush v. Harvin, who's better?

The gator.

Who's the best college quarterback for the skins to draft?

Matt Barkley.

Do you have advice for Obama?

Turn on the democratic congress and blame it for your troubles.

What advice do you have for Jason Campbell?

Hire a real estate agent and a moving company--Zorn knows both.

What does mrsmoe think of the economy?

She's on her back, and the money is rolling in.

So you're a pimp?

Sure.

Do you dress like one?

Only when I'm at work, but I don't have a job.

I hear you got a sex tape.

Yes, sir I do, and I use it to hold my package of dirty movies together.

What do you do in it?

Blog naked with erect attention to detail.

When will Shanny win?

Fall 2011.

Who cares the most about the NBA matter?

Groupies.

Has it been a slow day on this blog?

No--a slow day in this blog beats a great day at work.

Even if you don't have a job.

Posted by: MistaMoe | January 22, 2010 7:32 PM | Report abuse

so the guy who coached the worst part of the team has been kept. awesome.

Posted by: allwecandoissmileback | January 22, 2010 7:41 PM | Report abuse

Does anyone remember the video that was posted on here a few years ago that had 3 women doing the most intense workout ever for about 10 minutes straight.

These 3 women in the video (I think youtube) were going 110% percent for the entire length of the video and than at the end 1 of them was so exhausted that she basically collapsed into her trainer and/or boyfriends arms and was almost in tears?

If so, I'd love to be able to see a link to it.

And before anyone suggests, yes I've looked on the internet for this for a good while before coming here.

Posted by: Poopy_McPoop | January 22, 2010 7:48 PM | Report abuse

Is it just me, or does it look like Shanahan is one of those bosses that doesn't like his underlings to be smarter (or winning-er) than he is, so that its's all about HIM, not all about the end results? I mean, he's assembling a staff of people from losing teams or unproven teams. Something tells me this next season will not even rise to the level of "rebuilding year." Expect to see more gadget plays to try to mask serious talent deficiencies.

Posted by: Xlnt | January 22, 2010 7:48 PM | Report abuse

so the guy who coached the worst part of the team has been kept. awesome.

Posted by: allwecandoissmileback | January 22, 2010 7:41 PM

If you think Reid Doughty and Chris Horton are the worst part of the team, you just weren't watching. Guy who coached the worst part of the team was Joe Bugel, and he's gone.

Posted by: League-Source | January 22, 2010 7:49 PM | Report abuse

If I was getting paid, I would proof'reid' my sh!t

Posted by: pabrian2003 | January 22, 2010 6:58 PM

How will that help?

Just sayin'

Posted by: Skins930 | January 22, 2010 7:51 PM | Report abuse

Is it just me, or does it look like Shanahan is one of those bosses that doesn't like his underlings to be smarter (or winning-er) than he is, so that its's all about HIM, not all about the end results?

Posted by: Xlnt | January 22, 2010 7:48 PM

Yeah, I think it's just you. Haslett was a highly successful DC at Pittsburgh. His son ran, what?, the fourth best offense in the league last year? Frankly, from what I've read and heard about him, I think Shanahan has a hard time finding people who are smarter than he is. Who do think is smarter than he is that he should have hired?

Posted by: League-Source | January 22, 2010 7:54 PM | Report abuse

Nate,
That is a quintessential PDX moment if there ever was one.


What's your pecking order for the final 4?


Posted by: _Stumped_ | January 22, 2010 7:54 PM | Report abuse

TILT or Things I Learned Today

1. Don't let Prince write you fight. I was almost brought to tears from depression after listening to 30 seconds of that crapola.

2. We have missed Poopy_McPoop

3. MistaMoe needs a new jon or maybe just a job. Can he says "Welcome to Wal-Mart"? I thin he would look fly in his pimp clothes handing out carts.

4. Rex Ryan, love'em or leave'em, does make the playoffs interesting

5. Spartacus starts tonight on Starz at 10pm

Posted by: noonefromtampa | January 22, 2010 8:26 PM | Report abuse

Who do think is smarter than he is that he should have hired?

Posted by: League-Source | January 22, 2010 7:54 PM | Report abuse
_______________________________

I don't have any suggestions, but you see other teams raid other teams' coaching staffs all the time. The current staff seems to be being assembled out of people who weren't working anyway. Why couldn't we get an assistant from, say, the Vikings and give him a gig that is a little higher -- or some really improved team -- to sort of promote that person?

To hire someone from the UFL doesn't seem like all that great a "get."

Posted by: Xlnt | January 22, 2010 8:28 PM | Report abuse

What I want to know,

how much would I have to donate to get to sleep with Reese Witherspoon, she wouldn't even need to talk or thank me for my donation

Posted by: noonefromtampa | January 22, 2010 8:30 PM | Report abuse

The current staff seems to be being assembled out of people who weren't working anyway. Why couldn't we get an assistant from, say, the Vikings and give him a gig that is a little higher -- or some really improved team -- to sort of promote that person?

To hire someone from the UFL doesn't seem like all that great a "get."

Posted by: Xlnt | January 22, 2010 8:28 PM

Is that all you've got? How many guys weren't working? He "raided" the Steelers, Texans, Niners, Broncos. The Giants were trying to get Haslett to come for an interview when Shanahan got him. He's a first rate DC and, as an HC, he owned the Redskins.

Posted by: League-Source | January 22, 2010 8:47 PM | Report abuse

That would be the ideal draft. I would be so happy with that secnerio that I would visit the recently divorced neighbor and give her a good ole charity rodgering.

Posted by: Diesel44 | January 22, 2010 11:21 AM | Report abuse.

Not cool Mr. Diesel44.

Posted by: MrsDiesel44 | January 22, 2010 1:41 PM | Report abuse


Looking over at Mrs. Longballs, hoping she don't join on a day like today, the room started spinning real quick...from the gayness. Not to mention international soccer mana from the gods, I'd get a rap on the knuckles for that. I haven't even gotten to the grammar up here today...Francis, you really should see somebody.

Moe, interesting, ah, picture you paint of your, er, job description.

Posted by: RomoLongballs | January 22, 2010 9:10 PM | Report abuse

The current staff seems to be being assembled out of people who weren't working anyway. Why couldn't we get an assistant from, say, the Vikings and give him a gig that is a little higher -- or some really improved team -- to sort of promote that person?

To hire someone from the UFL doesn't seem like all that great a "get."

Posted by: Xlnt | January 22, 2010 8:28 PM

Is that all you've got? How many guys weren't working? He "raided" the Steelers, Texans, Niners, Broncos. The Giants were trying to get Haslett to come for an interview when Shanahan got him. He's a first rate DC and, as an HC, he owned the Redskins.

Posted by: League-Source | January 22, 2010 8:47 PM

I'd like to continue to bully you but you're reminding me of another quality poster. Perhaps you've heard of her...T_E.

Posted by: Diesel44 | January 22, 2010 9:12 PM | Report abuse

I'd like to continue to bully you but you're reminding me of another quality poster. Perhaps you've heard of her...T_E.

Posted by: Diesel44 | January 22, 2010 9:12 PM

Whatever happened to t_e? That guy set a pace that just winded the rest of us who were trying to keep up with him. I sure miss his posts. I'm glad that, in some small way, I'm able to keep his memory alive up here for you.

Posted by: League-Source | January 22, 2010 9:23 PM | Report abuse

I'd like to continue to bully you but you're reminding me of another quality poster. Perhaps you've heard of her...T_E.

Posted by: Diesel44 | January 22, 2010 9:12 PM

Whatever happened to t_e? That guy set a pace that just winded the rest of us who were trying to keep up with him. I sure miss his posts. I'm glad that, in some small way, I'm able to keep his memory alive up here for you.

Posted by: League-Source | January 22, 2010 9:23 PM |

I've been wondering where he went, too. He'll turn up.

Posted by: scampbell1975 | January 22, 2010 9:30 PM | Report abuse

Posted by: League-Source | January 22, 2010 9:23 PM

I heard she got so bloated on her success as the resident RI blogger and parleyed her success into a paid gig on the Perez Hilton/OMG/ATLnightout websites. She will be missed as she added much more than those that have tried to replace her.

Posted by: Diesel44 | January 22, 2010 9:38 PM | Report abuse

Interesting scenario I heard

Kurt Warner retires, AZ trade Leinart to Seattle for a #2 pick (40).

AZ packages its #1 and 2 #2's to move into top 5 to pick Clausen or Bradford if available.

Hmmmmm

Posted by: noonefromtampa | January 22, 2010 10:38 PM | Report abuse

Posted by: HPYTRKR1 | January 22, 2010 10:42 PM | Report abuse

Posted by: noonefromtampa | January 22, 2010 10:38 PM

Where did you hear that?

Posted by: TWISI | January 22, 2010 10:43 PM | Report abuse


Boring. Going after a guy for weak proofreading in a blog is pretty small. It's even smaller when you haven't done a competent job of proofreading your own work. You've got a question mark where you shouldn't, you don't have one where you should, and you left a "d" off "and." Why don't you go get your own house in order before coming after Reid?

Posted by: League-Source | January 22, 2010 5:53 PM | Report abuse

Hi d-bag,
J Reid works for the Washington Post... we don't. Your logic is retarded. You're an idiot for thinking that we shouldn't hold this guy to a standard. Also, reid's "insider" info sucks, sooo he deserves to hear it. Get off his c#*k.

Posted by: noseman4681 | January 22, 2010 10:46 PM | Report abuse

Does anyone remember the video that was posted on here a few years ago that had 3 women doing the most intense workout ever for about 10 minutes straight.

These 3 women in the video (I think youtube) were going 110% percent for the entire length of the video and than at the end 1 of them was so exhausted that she basically collapsed into her trainer and/or boyfriends arms and was almost in tears?

If so, I'd love to be able to see a link to it.

And before anyone suggests, yes I've looked on the internet for this for a good while before coming here.

Posted by: Poopy_McPoop | January 22, 2010 7:48 PM

Go to Cowboys blog, they have the info you need. Don't come back here with your crap, c

Posted by: abxinc | January 22, 2010 10:53 PM | Report abuse

Posted by: noonefromtampa | January 22, 2010 10:38 PM

Where did you hear that?

Posted by: TWISI | January 22, 2010 10:43 PM
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Local sports radio show talking about draft scenarios

like if first three players off the board are Suh, McCoy, Berry what happens then

Do KC, Buff, Den, or AZ try to move up.

Also, there is lots of talk about Carroll trying to trade for Leinart, according to the host

Posted by: noonefromtampa | January 22, 2010 11:06 PM | Report abuse

This blog is like Thanksgiving at farstriker's.

Posted by: farstriker | January 22, 2010 11:08 PM | Report abuse

Well its official here in Tampa

the fog is so bad we have zero visibility

Posted by: noonefromtampa | January 22, 2010 11:15 PM | Report abuse

kind of like Obama's list of accomplishments that will get talked about at the state of the union address

Posted by: noonefromtampa | January 22, 2010 11:17 PM | Report abuse

Isn't Sean McVay the son of Anton McVay, the founder and High Priest of the Church of Satan?

Does this mean that Dan Snyder has made a pact with the Devil? I can't think of anything less that would get the Redskins into the playoffs next year.

:)

Posted by: hisroc | January 22, 2010 11:49 PM | Report abuse

The current staff seems to be being assembled out of people who weren't working anyway. Why couldn't we get an assistant from, say, the Vikings and give him a gig that is a little higher -- or some really improved team -- to sort of promote that person?

To hire someone from the UFL doesn't seem like all that great a "get."

Posted by: Xlnt | January 22, 2010 8:28 PM

Is that all you've got? How many guys weren't working? He "raided" the Steelers, Texans, Niners, Broncos. The Giants were trying to get Haslett to come for an interview when Shanahan got him. He's a first rate DC and, as an HC, he owned the Redskins.

Posted by: League-Source | January 22, 2010 8:47 PM
___________________

Jacob Burney -- can't find anything on the Web about where he was working the past season

Bob Slowik -- ditto

Chris Foerster -- with 49'ers in 2008, which went 7-9; in 2009, went 8-8

Kyle Shanahan (should not even consider this one, as he was going to be hired no matter his experience, but..) -- became OC of Texans Jan 2008; Texans 8-8 in 2008, 9-7 in 2009, its first-ever winning season

Jon Embree -- out of NFL during 2009 season; before that, was with Kansas City Chiefs 2006-2008; KC was 4-12 in 2009, 2-14 in 2008

Haslett -- in 2008 became interim head coack of St. Louis Rams, went 2-10 as interim coach, so the team no longer had him under consideration for permanent head coaching position, though when named interim, had a contract clause offering him the spot permanently if he won 6 games; was out of the NFL in 2009

Mediocre.

Posted by: Xlnt | January 23, 2010 12:46 AM | Report abuse

Well its official here in Tampa
the fog is so bad we have zero visibility

So, do you spend the evening wandering the streets groping for -- well, we call it 'sweater meat' Up Here, but I suppose I'd have to explain what a sweater is -- and then apologizing "because of the fog"?

If not, why not?

Posted by: daggar | January 23, 2010 12:49 AM | Report abuse

Mediocre.
Posted by: Xlnt

Dude, you need a drink.
You gotta quit with the negative waves, Moriarty. The Germans haven't even invaded Pearl Harbor yet.

Posted by: daggar | January 23, 2010 12:53 AM | Report abuse

Dude, you need a drink.
You gotta quit with the negative waves, Moriarty. The Germans haven't even invaded Pearl Harbor yet.

Posted by: daggar | January 23, 2010 12:53 AM
______________________

Yeah, but it was pretty cool the way they tore down the Chinese Wall.

Posted by: Xlnt | January 23, 2010 1:05 AM | Report abuse

FA possibles:

RFA LT - DONALD PENN
UFA SSLB KEITH BULLOCK or ANGELO CROWELL
RFA FS - NICK COLLINS
RFA CB - DUNTA ROBINSON

Posted by: glawrence007 | January 23, 2010 1:15 AM | Report abuse

FA possibles:

RFA LT - DONALD PENN
UFA SSLB KEITH BULLOCK or ANGELO CROWELL
RFA FS - NICK COLLINS
RFA CB - DUNTA ROBINSON

Posted by: glawrence007 | January 23, 2010 1:15 AM

Where do you purpose we get the draft picks to make this happen?

Posted by: Skins930 | January 23, 2010 1:18 AM | Report abuse

"......as an HC, he owned the Redskins."

Posted by: League-Source | January 22, 2010 8:47 PM

Owning the REDSKINS doesn't seem particularly difficult now does it?

Posted by: glawrence007 | January 23, 2010 1:18 AM | Report abuse

I didn't say we'd get them all. I said that was their status and potentially available. Damn you're dunb.

Posted by: glawrence007 | January 23, 2010 1:20 AM | Report abuse

Why am I dumb? These are only possibilities if you have draft choices to give up and the Skins have 5 picks.

So basically, for the Skins, these are not possibilities. At most, the Skins can sign one RFA and even that would be dumb.

Mostly I like your thoughts on draft picks and UFAs, but RFAs are not an option for the Skins. Just like trading portis is not an option because of his salary.

Posted by: Skins930 | January 23, 2010 1:28 AM | Report abuse

Haslett -- in 2008 became interim head coack of St. Louis Rams, went 2-10 as interim coach, so the team no longer had him under consideration for permanent head coaching position, though when named interim, had a contract clause offering him the spot permanently if he won 6 games; was out of the NFL in 2009

Mediocre.

Posted by: Xlnt | January 23, 2010 12:46 AM

Not sure why you stopped where you did. You left off El Nacho Grande, himself. Shanahan went 7-9 and 8-8 his last two seasons in Denver and was fired. He was out of football last year. So, you'd expect him to hire a group of losers like himself, wouldn't you?

Posted by: League-Source | January 23, 2010 6:04 AM | Report abuse

Not sure why you stopped where you did. You left off El Nacho Grande, himself. Shanahan went 7-9 and 8-8 his last two seasons in Denver and was fired. He was out of football last year. So, you'd expect him to hire a group of losers like himself, wouldn't you?

Posted by: League-Source | January 23, 2010 6:04 AM |

I have a theory, bare with me here. Coaching goes in cycles. You spend a few years building the team that you want. So when you first start this building process your record ain't great but is improving. As you add the players that you want others are learning the system and progressing towards their prime. Then come the winning years. But as this happens your players start to age, or leave via free agency because they have played well and are desired by other teams. So after winning for a while your team quality starts to decline and this is when you have to start the cycle over again. I think Shanny was at the end of that cycle and was starting to build again. Look at the Patriots. This is clearly what is happening with them. The girls are at the top of their curve and some of their older players will have to be replaced. Once Romo, Jones, Austin, Witten, etc start to get age on them they will have the same problem because they don't seem to pick young talent very well. That's why when they had Aikmen, Irvin, etc. they were good but once that crew got over the hill they were finished. It happened to the Steelers. It will happen to the Saints. There are a few exceptions of teams that have the uncanny ability to replace players that are aging with young talent as this cycle moves along. The Colts come to mind. So does Gibbs 1.0 Our problem is that we can't ever get past the first part of this cycle because our owner doesn't have any patience.

Posted by: scampbell1975 | January 23, 2010 10:37 AM | Report abuse

Colts are different because they have Peyton..they are competitive with him every year.. everyone else is support staff

Both Dallas and the Niners were done in by the Cap/Free agency because they got stripped
of great second tier talent in their reserves

the Pats paradigm is to use aging vets to surround Brady.. by their very nature they are short term fixes and they are constantly on the edge. this year it really caught up with them. but as long as Brady is healthy it can work. It takes 2 years to fully get over an ACL.. if they can replenish the reserves, they will be better next year.

Dallas is poorly coached and poorly disciplined. ditto the Chargers
Pitt and Bmore are assembled using the defense to be competitive, and when they get good offensive players they can be very good.

If you want a team that looks to be on the cusp of greatness, i would take the Jets, depending upon just how good Sanchez can be.
they have a lot of young players who are maturing together. 2011 could be their year to go all the way..

Posted by: shally | January 23, 2010 10:54 AM | Report abuse

I'll also add that these teams have a core of players that keep them good/competitive and then are surrounded by a supporting cast. The supporting cast can be replaced/substituted while the central cast is the key. Once it ages or disbands the cycle is on the downslope. Denver's Superbowl team is a prime example, as are the old Cowgirls, San Fran and the newer teams such as the Pats, Colts (although the Colts have been successful at replacing most of the core guys but still can't win it all consistently.) Gibbs 1.0 seemed to be great at replacing the core while most teams seem to try to hang on to the core until they get way past their prime.

Posted by: scampbell1975 | January 23, 2010 11:08 AM | Report abuse

If you want a team that looks to be on the cusp of greatness, i would take the Jets, depending upon just how good Sanchez can be.
they have a lot of young players who are maturing together. 2011 could be their year to go all the way..

Posted by: shally | January 23, 2010 10:54 AM |

You may be right. And although I don't think so the Jets aren't out of it yet so this could still be their year. They are on a role.

Posted by: scampbell1975 | January 23, 2010 11:12 AM | Report abuse

I have a theory, bare with me here.

Posted by: scampbell1975 | January 23, 2010 10:37 AM

Do I really have to take my clothes off to understand your theory? Is that how they did it in the architecture school back at Georgia Tech? No wonder the lights never went off in that building.

Posted by: League-Source | January 23, 2010 11:15 AM | Report abuse

Jacob Burney -- can't find anything on the Web about where he was working the past season

Bob Slowik -- ditto

Chris Foerster -- with 49'ers in 2008, which went 7-9; in 2009, went 8-8

Kyle Shanahan (should not even consider this one, as he was going to be hired no matter his experience, but..) -- became OC of Texans Jan 2008; Texans 8-8 in 2008, 9-7 in 2009, its first-ever winning season

Jon Embree -- out of NFL during 2009 season; before that, was with Kansas City Chiefs 2006-2008; KC was 4-12 in 2009, 2-14 in 2008

Haslett -- in 2008 became interim head coack of St. Louis Rams, went 2-10 as interim coach, so the team no longer had him under consideration for permanent head coaching position, though when named interim, had a contract clause offering him the spot permanently if he won 6 games; was out of the NFL in 2009

Mediocre.


Posted by: Xlnt | January 23, 2010 12:46 AM | Report abuse


Ignorant.

So to assemble a good coaching staff, those coaches must have come directly from a team with a winning record?

*2 years ago Todd Haley was the hot coordinator for the SuperBowl contending Cards; how'd he do in KC this year?

*2 years ago Josh McDaniels was the hot coordinator for the Matt Cassel-led Pats who had a winning record - did McDaniels make the playoffs this year?

*Wade Phillips has a 33-15 regular season record with the Cowboys - should we have made a run at him instead of going after Shanny?

* Bill Belichik was a retread who went 36-44 as a head coach before New Engaland hired him to be HC - how has that turned out?

*Tom Coughlin got run out of Jacksonville after going 19-29 over three seasons, before the G-Men hired him - how did that turn out?

Posted by: p1funk | January 23, 2010 11:23 AM | Report abuse

Do I really have to take my clothes off to understand your theory? Is that how they did it in the architecture school back at Georgia Tech? No wonder the lights never went off in that building.

Posted by: League-Source | January 23, 2010 11:15 AM

Everything is more fun naked. Well, almost everything.

Posted by: scampbell1975 | January 23, 2010 11:24 AM | Report abuse

This blog is like Thanksgiving at farstriker's.

Posted by: farstriker | January 22, 2010 11:08 PM |

Fartstriker - I know what you mean. Everyone goes around trying to outgas everyone else and pretty soon the place smells like a friggin coal mine.

Posted by: FartezDudmore | January 23, 2010 11:26 AM | Report abuse

You may be right. And although I don't think so the Jets aren't out of it yet so this could still be their year. They are on a role.

Posted by: scampbell1975 | January 23, 2010 11:12 AM | Report abuse


The Jets are going to get mauled.

Is the line still 7.5?

Colts will win by 2 TDs.

BOOK IT!

Posted by: p1funk | January 23, 2010 11:26 AM | Report abuse

Colts will win by 2 TDs.

BOOK IT!

Posted by: p1funk | January 23, 2010 11:26 AM |

This is one of those situations that fate just loves.

1. The Colts gift the Jets into the playoffs then get snakebit by them when they actually play each other.

2. The Jets are charmed just like they were 43 yrs aqo when Namath led them to victory over the Colts in SB III as huge underdogs - at least twice 7.5, mebbe even three times.

Posted by: FartezDudmore | January 23, 2010 11:36 AM | Report abuse

Boy, I can't spell today at all.

Posted by: scampbell1975 | January 23, 2010 11:41 AM | Report abuse

Boy, I can't spell today at all.

Posted by: scampbell1975 | January 23, 2010 11:41 AM |

Yes you can. You did it 100% correct.

Posted by: FartezDudmore | January 23, 2010 11:44 AM | Report abuse

They are on a roll not role.

Posted by: scampbell1975 | January 23, 2010 11:48 AM | Report abuse

The Jets are going to get mauled.

Posted by: p1funk | January 23, 2010 11:26 AM |

My wife gets malled just about every day. Spends all our money at Macy's and Lord and Taylor.

Posted by: FartezDudmore | January 23, 2010 11:51 AM | Report abuse

Boy, I can't spell today at all.

Posted by: scampbell1975 | January 23, 2010 11:41 AM |

Mr. Campbell - while the Scotch are not known for their spelling ability they do possess many admirable attributes. For instance, they are very thrifty. Here is a little story to illustrate their thriftiness.

A Scotch man was traveling by train from Edinburgh to London when the conductor came by to collect the fare. He got into a heated argument with the Scot over the fare. After 10 minutes of getting nowhere, out of frustration the conductor picked up his big, heavy bag and threw it out the open window. The Scot then said: "Now you've done it. First you try to overcharge me and then you throw me boy off the train".

Posted by: FartezDudmore | January 23, 2010 12:13 PM | Report abuse

Go to Cowboys blog, they have the info you need. Don't come back here with your crap, c

Posted by: abxinc | January 22, 2010 10:53 PM

suck on my freshly man-scaped balls.

Posted by: Poopy_McPoop | January 23, 2010 12:15 PM | Report abuse

Everything is more fun naked. Well, almost everything.

Posted by: scampbell1975 | January 23, 2010 11:24 AM
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Well, as Seinfeld said, there's good naked and bad naked.

Posted by: Poopy_McPoop | January 23, 2010 12:19 PM | Report abuse

Mr. Campbell - while the Scotch are not known for their spelling ability they do possess many admirable attributes. For instance, they are very thrifty. Here is a little story to illustrate their thriftiness.

A Scotch man was traveling by train from Edinburgh to London when the conductor came by to collect the fare. He got into a heated argument with the Scot over the fare. After 10 minutes of getting nowhere, out of frustration the conductor picked up his big, heavy bag and threw it out the open window. The Scot then said: "Now you've done it. First you try to overcharge me and then you throw me boy off the train".

Posted by: FartezDudmore | January 23, 2010 12:13 PM |

First off Scotch is a drink. A Scot or Scotsmen is a person. Second, I'm not sure why a Scot would want to travel to London.

Posted by: scampbell1975 | January 23, 2010 12:29 PM | Report abuse

suck on my freshly man-scaped balls.

Posted by: Poopy_McPoop | January 23, 2010 12:15 PM |

Glad to see you are practicing good personal hygene. Although to be precise, it wasn't your balls that you manscaped, it was your ball sack.

Posted by: FartezDudmore | January 23, 2010 1:45 PM | Report abuse

Usage note:
The natives of Scotland refer to themselves as Scots or, in the singular, Scot, Scotsman, or Scotswoman. The related adjectives are Scottish or, less commonly, Scots. Scotch as a noun or adjective is objected to except when used of whisky and in established phrases like Scotch egg and Scotch pine.

My apologies. I should of said "Scot" instead of "Scotch man". As to why a Scot would be traveling to London, he probably wanted to pay his respects to the Queen.

Remember the Mike Myers SNL skits? "If it isn't Scottish its crap."

Posted by: FartezDudmore | January 23, 2010 1:54 PM | Report abuse

A Scotch man ... One who drinks scotch!

Posted by: frediefritz | January 23, 2010 2:05 PM | Report abuse

My apologies. I should of said "Scot" instead of "Scotch man". As to why a Scot would be traveling to London, he probably wanted to pay his respects to the Queen.

Remember the Mike Myers SNL skits? "If it isn't Scottish its crap."

Posted by: FartezDudmore | January 23, 2010 1:54 PM | Report abuse

A Scotch man ... One who drinks scotch!

Posted by: frediefritz | January 23, 2010 2:05 PM |

-That Mike Myers skit was frickin' hilarious.

-F the Queen (like I really care either way)

-Good stuff Fredie

Posted by: scampbell1975 | January 23, 2010 2:17 PM | Report abuse

the Jets look a lot like the Giants and Arizona in that both were teams that peaked at just the right time and were able to get to the Superbowl.. people tend to forget that the Giant "juggernaut" was within one more loss of not even getting into the playoffs.. when they beat Buffalo in the snow, the got in and then caught fire

the Jets do have that "team of destiny" look to them. that said, i dont think there is a better QB on the planet capable of beating a team all by himself, than Peyton BUT he will have to do it with minimal contribution from Wayne.. not since Deion have a seen a corner who could take a first tier receiver totally out of a game the way Reives (sp?) does..
even Assante Samuel wasnt that good

i still think that the Colts win, and win easily because i think they can stop the Jets from running better than the Jets can stop the Colts from passing-- and without a running game, the Jets offense goes nowhere.
But if Sanchez matures quickly, who knows ???

Posted by: shally | January 23, 2010 3:10 PM | Report abuse

Not sure why you stopped where you did. You left off El Nacho Grande, himself. Shanahan went 7-9 and 8-8 his last two seasons in Denver and was fired. He was out of football last year. So, you'd expect him to hire a group of losers like himself, wouldn't you?

Posted by: League-Source | January 23, 2010 6:04 AM
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My first point, exactly.

Thanks.

Man, you are so wise, I think you might be Mike Wise.

Posted by: Xlnt | January 23, 2010 3:41 PM | Report abuse

Yea, except 7-9 or 8-8 would be a great improvement.

Posted by: scampbell1975 | January 23, 2010 3:50 PM | Report abuse

Go to Cowboys blog, they have the info you need. Don't come back here with your crap, c

Posted by: abxinc | January 22, 2010 10:53 PM

suck on my freshly man-scaped balls.

Posted by: Poopy_McPoop | January 23, 2010 12:15 PM

I see why your name is synonymous to poops; again, get lost!

Posted by: abxinc | January 23, 2010 4:02 PM | Report abuse

I have a theory, bare with me here. Coaching goes in cycles.
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Agree, but I don't think it rises to the level of "theory," as it seems to be pretty much fact.

But how about taking this up a step?

Ownership is largely responsible for the coaching cycles.

That's the wildcard in all this NFL madness. You can't gameplan (in the sense of preparing for aging players by wisely taking advantage of the draft and free agency) for when an owner decides to change head coaches.

An interesting experiment would be for the NFL to declare a moratorium on HC changes, just to see how well each team would do without that intangible thrown in -- just depend on their own savvy with player personnel.

Would never happen, though, because the NFL is nothing if not a giant casino.

Posted by: Xlnt | January 23, 2010 4:09 PM | Report abuse

Man, you are so wise, I think you might be Mike Wise.

Posted by: Xlnt | January 23, 2010 3:41 PM

And you're so dumb that I think you might be what he left in the toilet.

Posted by: League-Source | January 23, 2010 4:17 PM | Report abuse

"His arm is intriguing, his size (6-5, 245 pounds) is intriguing and the size of his hands and the way the ball comes out is intriguing, but his footwork is very lazy."

If I wasn't so lazy, I might find this intriguing.

Posted by: Samson151 | January 23, 2010 4:35 PM | Report abuse

Does anyone remember the video that was posted on here a few years ago that had 3 women doing the most intense workout ever for about 10 minutes straight.

These 3 women in the video (I think youtube) were going 110% percent for the entire length of the video and than at the end 1 of them was so exhausted that she basically collapsed into her trainer and/or boyfriends arms and was almost in tears?

If so, I'd love to be able to see a link to it.

And before anyone suggests, yes I've looked on the internet for this for a good while before coming here.

Posted by: Poopy_McPoop | January 22, 2010 7:48 PM

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Pretty sure this is the one you were thinking of.

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-3502747150872953326&ei=eWtbS4PZK56yqgLzlZm6CQ&q=crossfit+girls&hl=en&view=3&client=firefox-a#

Posted by: Curzon417 | January 23, 2010 4:37 PM | Report abuse

"Colts are different because they have Peyton..they are competitive with him every year.. everyone else is support staff/Both Dallas and the Niners were done in by the Cap/Free agency because they got stripped
of great second tier talent in their reserves.
the Pats paradigm is to use aging vets to surround Brady.. Dallas is poorly coached and poorly disciplined. ditto the Chargers
Pitt and Bmore are assembled using the defense to be competitive, and when they get good offensive players they can be very good.Posted by: shally"

Hmmm? The Colts built the team around Manning, and what's going to happen when he finally fades? Reminds me of Buffalo and Jim Kelly. Dallas and SF were done in not by loss of reserves to free agency (that happens to every strong team, since other clubs assume their backups are better than their own) but by the loss of a their anchor players. The Pats have shown themselves more than willing to play young guys (Logan Mankins and Jerod Mayo are two) but Belichick says most draftees don't pan out. He signs vets for the same reason George Allen did -- they're motivated by the impending end of their careers, and besides, they're better players. Baltimore's defense is aging fast, and it looks like they'll be more and more dependent on an offense that in its turn is too dependent on Derrick Mason.

Posted by: Samson151 | January 23, 2010 4:45 PM | Report abuse

Man, you are so wise, I think you might be Mike Wise.

Posted by: Xlnt | January 23, 2010 3:41 PM

And you're so dumb that I think you might be what he left in the toilet.

Posted by: League-Source | January 23, 2010 4:17 PM | Report abuse
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Absolutely uncalled for and duly reported.

Posted by: Xlnt | January 23, 2010 4:48 PM | Report abuse

Said Shally to Samson151:

"Colts are different because they have Peyton..they are competitive with him every year.. everyone else is support staff..."

THEN

"Hmmm? The Colts built the team around Manning, and what's going to happen when he finally fades?..." responded Samson151.


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You two must be new to the blog. So allow me to speak on behalf of the 'Jason Campbell Fanclub' including Brownwood26, Alan4, TWISI, pabrian2008, dcwun--but not limited to--scampbell1975 and MistaMoe!

Ya see shally and samson,

Peyton Manning, Tom Brady, Drew Brees etc are only great QBs because they have been given a great cast including terrific WRs, terrific RBs and a stellar O-line. The 'Jason Campbell Fanclub' will tell you two that if you were to put those QBs in Jason Campbells place they too would struggle.

So to answer your question Samson151, it doesn't matter when Peyton Manning leaves because his replacement will have the same tools he had to succeed.

Posted by: Vicc | January 23, 2010 5:33 PM | Report abuse

It's funny how when you look through my posts, I've never blamed Jason Campbell and Clinton Portis' struggles on the O-line.

BUT

When you look through the 'Jason Campbell Fanclub' members posts you will find that they are quick to dismiss Soups struggles to the O-line, WRs, new scheme, coaches, Vinny etc. and they won't give Clinton the benefit of the doubt, despite the fact he's been more effective than Campbell has ever been!

Posted by: Vicc | January 23, 2010 5:37 PM | Report abuse

Posted by: Vicc | January 23, 2010 5:33 PM

Please remember I was speaking on behalf of those well-informed posters.


If ya ask me shally and samson151, I'd tell you that the Skins ain't going nowhere until they find a good QB.

Posted by: Vicc | January 23, 2010 5:39 PM | Report abuse

I was hoping the Skins would pick up Sean McVay to be an offensive assistant

Posted by: coparker5 | January 23, 2010 5:42 PM | Report abuse

Pretty sure this is the one you were thinking of.

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-3502747150872953326&ei=eWtbS4PZK56yqgLzlZm6CQ&q=crossfit+girls&hl=en&view=3&client=firefox-a#

Posted by: Curzon417 | January 23, 2010 4:37 PM

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We all know that Nate lives for 24HR fitness, but these girls put the blogger from Portland to shame.

Posted by: Chia_Pet | January 23, 2010 5:54 PM | Report abuse

I'm not in the Jason Campbell fanclub. I'm just not a hater. I think JC would do much better with a good OLine and a better supporting cast. I don't think he's anywhere near Brady, Manning, Brees, etc.

Posted by: scampbell1975 | January 23, 2010 5:54 PM | Report abuse

Please remember I was speaking on behalf of those well-informed posters.


If ya ask me shally and samson151, I'd tell you that the Skins ain't going nowhere until they find a good QB.

Posted by: Vicc | January 23, 2010 5:39 PM

Oh, and you can keep mt name out of your toothless cousin sucking mouth. I don't need your dumba$$ to speak up for me.

Posted by: scampbell1975 | January 23, 2010 5:57 PM | Report abuse

It's funny how when you look through my posts, I've never blamed Jason Campbell and Clinton Portis' struggles on the O-line.

BUT

When you look through the 'Jason Campbell Fanclub' members posts you will find that they are quick to dismiss Soups struggles to the O-line, WRs, new scheme, coaches, Vinny etc. and they won't give Clinton the benefit of the doubt, despite the fact he's been more effective than Campbell has ever been!

Posted by: Vicc | January 23, 2010 5:37 PM |

There is a big difference between blaming and putting part of the reason for something on the oline you a$$ slurping queen.

Posted by: scampbell1975 | January 23, 2010 5:59 PM | Report abuse

Hey Vicc,
Have the person reading to you read the following very slow: Without a legitimate offensive line it's impossible to to make an honest assessment of the RB play, the WR play and yes the QB play. It's true in ankle biter pee wee football and it's true in the NFL. And the reason you never blame the struggles of Portis or Campbell on the OL is because you never know what you're talking about.

Posted by: mack1 | January 23, 2010 6:27 PM | Report abuse

Hey Vicc,
Have the person reading to you read the following very slow: Without a legitimate offensive line it's impossible to to make an honest assessment of the RB play, the WR play and yes the QB play. It's true in ankle biter pee wee football and it's true in the NFL. And the reason you never blame the struggles of Portis or Campbell on the OL is because you never know what you're talking about.

Posted by: mack1 | January 23, 2010 6:27 PM | Report

HA!Good stuff Mack... and funny

Posted by: scampbell1975 | January 23, 2010 6:50 PM | Report abuse

Thanks scamp. You didn't really need the help but I couldn't resist kicking the corpse as I walked by.

Posted by: mack1 | January 23, 2010 6:56 PM | Report abuse

I do tend to go overboard though. Sublety and discretion are qualities that elude me.

Posted by: scampbell1975 | January 23, 2010 6:58 PM | Report abuse

Absolutely uncalled for and duly reported.

Posted by: Xlnt | January 23, 2010 4:48 PM

Testing, testing! Can I still post on the RI? Xlnt duly reported me, so I probably have to change my screen name if I want to post again. Maybe scampbell1976?

Testing, testing! If you can read this, then they think that Xlnt is just a puszy for complaining and should go post on the Local Tampex blog. If you can't read this, then they think that Xlnt rules! Oh, well, if you can't read this then who knows?

Testing, testing!

Posted by: League-Source | January 23, 2010 8:02 PM | Report abuse

Testing, testing! Can I still post on the RI? Xlnt duly reported me, so I probably have to change my screen name if I want to post again. Maybe scampbell1976?

Posted by: League-Source | January 23, 2010 8:02 PM

Hey, Xlnt, you see that? You reported me and they lauged at you at Blog Central. You're nothing, and I rule! Be careful, or I may have to report you.

Posted by: League-Source | January 23, 2010 8:08 PM | Report abuse

You're still here buddy. Next time use some lube on that guy and he might "take it" a little easier.

Posted by: scampbell1975 | January 23, 2010 8:09 PM | Report abuse

Hey Vicc,
Have the person reading to you read the following very slow: Without a legitimate offensive line it's impossible to to make an honest assessment of the RB play, the WR play and yes the QB play. It's true in ankle biter pee wee football and it's true in the NFL. And the reason you never blame the struggles of Portis or Campbell on the OL is because you never know what you're talking about.

Posted by: mack1


Oh, Okay, gotcha mack1. Sam Bradford must be the next Peyton Manning then. Did you see how well he performed with a good supporting class? So then how does one appropriately assess the O-line play?

Lemme guess? If the QB or WR or HB are performing well, then the O-line is performing well right, but NOT the other way around right?

When is JC17 finally gonna take the next step to being a franchise QB? At what point does an individual assume responsibility for their own actions? Huh jerk? I guess asking a staunch liberal to understand the concept of personal responsibility is too much to ask...

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There is a big difference between blaming and putting part of the reason for something on the oline you a$$ slurping queen.

Posted by: scampbell1975


it's not that serious dude. calm your overreacting azz down.

If what you said is truly the case, then let me hear you say Portis can still perform at a high level! I mean he still averaged 4 ypc in a down year. Perhaps he won't get injured and average above 4 ypc in a not so down year.

Posted by: Vicc | January 23, 2010 8:15 PM | Report abuse

You're still here buddy.

Posted by: scampbell1975 | January 23, 2010 8:09 PM

He doesn't understand that the Post is paying me $125 a week (not as good as the $150 they're paying you) to keep the convo moving and people clicking on their browser to see where we're going to take it next. I get a bonus when someone "reports" me.

Plus, he's a bit slower than your average 4th grader.

Posted by: League-Source | January 23, 2010 8:16 PM | Report abuse

If what you said is truly the case, then let me hear you say Portis can still perform at a high level! I mean he still averaged 4 ypc in a down year. Perhaps he won't get injured and average above 4 ypc in a not so down year.

Posted by: Vicc | January 23, 2010 8:15 PM | Report

I've always liked Portis until this year. He always plays his a$$ off even though he slacks in the offseason and at practice. I think he's a terrible teammate and his laziness caught up with him this year. The terrible oline didn't help him EITHER. He isn't a homerun hotter but with a decent line he could still be a chain mover because he is a horse. But the oline alone isn't going to save him. With the mileage on his tires and his age he's gonna have to put in some work this offseason AND practice. Not pissing off his lead blocker might help too. No one does it alone in this league.

Posted by: scampbell1975 | January 23, 2010 8:23 PM | Report abuse

*hitter* not hotter

Posted by: scampbell1975 | January 23, 2010 8:26 PM | Report abuse

scampbell1975,

I have a chick-friend who was banging Portis and two other members of the team. His teammates like him, *trust me*

I appreciate the civil response.

Gibbs turned him into a bruiser and I feel like he needs to lose some weight and regain some quickness.

Posted by: Vicc | January 23, 2010 8:29 PM | Report abuse

scampbell1975,

I have a chick-friend who was banging Portis and two other members of the team. His teammates like him, *trust me*

I appreciate the civil response.

Gibbs turned him into a bruiser and I feel like he needs to lose some weight and regain some quickness.

Posted by: Vicc | January 23, 2010 8:29 PM

Yea, I'm hot tempered. I get carried away sometimes...sorry 'bout that. It's my MO. The teammate thing I don't know if I believe. I can see how they would like his play on Sunday, but this subversive crap he supposedly pulls, if true, would piss me the he77 off. (Not that that takes much)

Posted by: scampbell1975 | January 23, 2010 8:54 PM | Report abuse

I have a chick-friend who was banging Portis and two other members of the team. His teammates like him, *trust me*

Posted by: Vicc | January 23, 2010 8:29 PM

*Trust me* on this one Vicc...Portis, Tana, & Landry don't really like your friend, their just banging her.

Posted by: Diesel44 | January 23, 2010 8:55 PM | Report abuse

They're not their.

Posted by: Diesel44 | January 23, 2010 8:59 PM | Report abuse

But of course Diesel44, *chuckle*

I only had that insider info for 2nd half of the 2008 season.

Posted by: Vicc | January 23, 2010 9:04 PM | Report abuse

Oh, Okay, gotcha mack1. Sam Bradford must be the next Peyton Manning then. Did you see how well he performed with a good supporting class? So then how does one appropriately assess the O-line play?

Lemme guess? If the QB or WR or HB are performing well, then the O-line is performing well right, but NOT the other way around right?

When is JC17 finally gonna take the next step to being a franchise QB? At what point does an individual assume responsibility for their own actions? Huh jerk? I guess asking a staunch liberal to understand the concept of personal responsibility is too much to ask...

There is a big difference between blaming and putting part of the reason for something on the oline you a$$ slurping queen.

Posted by: scampbell1975


it's not that serious dude. calm your overreacting azz down.

If what you said is truly the case, then let me hear you say Portis can still perform at a high level! I mean he still averaged 4 ypc in a down year. Perhaps he won't get injured and average above 4 ypc in a not so down year.

Posted by: Vicc | January 23, 2010 8:15 PM | Report abuse

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Doesnt appear Casserly would blame the OLine in the video below... See the wide open WRs in Charlie's montage of plays..

Also, may explain, in the last Giants Game, why Collins (who only came in for 4 plays) lit it up for 57 yards and what would of been a TD pass if Sleepy Davis hadnt dropped it..

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZTqk4Du4-wM

Posted by: SkinsneedaGM | January 23, 2010 9:30 PM | Report abuse

Hey Snyder: if you monitor these sites, draft Bradford. Campbell = Gus Frerotte

Posted by: coparker5 | January 23, 2010 9:33 PM | Report abuse

Odds are extremely high, Rhino is eating pizza this very minute.

Posted by: SkinsneedaGM | January 23, 2010 9:35 PM | Report abuse

Odds are higher, the Campus Cop gets fired for arresting a rich alumnus.

Posted by: SkinsneedaGM | January 23, 2010 9:37 PM | Report abuse

Odds are extremely high, Rhino is eating pizza this very minute.


Posted by: SkinsneedaGM | January 23, 2010 9:35 PM

Too early, but in a few hours you can book it.

Posted by: Diesel44 | January 23, 2010 9:38 PM | Report abuse

Ya know what the sad thing is SkinsneedaGM?

I was actually supporting the idea of keeping both Campbell and Zorn.

I really want Campbell to succeed and felt 3 years in the same system, coupled with the fact that WE WILL draft O-linemen, might help. I was willing to give Soup slurpers a chance to prove their point, but Zorn is gone now and Campbell will have to learn another system.

It does piss me off that there is evidence of Campbell missing open receivers and slurpers won't acknowledge it. I mean what is the point of giving Campbell time to throw if he's still gonna miss the open receptor?

Posted by: Vicc | January 23, 2010 9:40 PM | Report abuse

Doesnt appear Casserly would blame the OLine in the video below... See the wide open WRs in Charlie's montage of plays..

Also, may explain, in the last Giants Game, why Collins (who only came in for 4 plays) lit it up for 57 yards and what would of been a TD pass if Sleepy Davis hadnt dropped it..

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZTqk4Du4-wM

Posted by: SkinsneedaGM | January 23, 2010 9:30 PM

As I said, there is more than one person responsible. I'm going to summarize all my posts on this subject. The whole offensive team blew donkeys at some point. No one person can be blamed. I think JC is an adequate QB at most. His mechanics are long and slow, his accuracy is inconsistent, and his reads are suspect. Having said that no one can play QB from his back or while running for their lives. JC has become tough but gunshy. He frequently looks at the pass rush and that kills a play. Can you blame him? They all need to be kicked squaw in the baggles.

Posted by: scampbell1975 | January 23, 2010 9:42 PM | Report abuse

"He frequently looks at the pass rush and that kills a play. Can you blame him?" said scampbell

I agree.

The benefits of knowing where you receivers are gonna be, due to being in the same system for 3 years, left when Zorn did.

Posted by: Vicc | January 23, 2010 9:50 PM | Report abuse

...Campbell missing open receivers and slurpers won't acknowledge it. I mean what is the point of giving Campbell time to throw if he's still gonna miss the open receptor?

Posted by: Vicc | January 23, 2010 9:40 PM
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The JC slurpers beat me up when I use the "Collins example" of how odd that he is so effective (07 playoff run and the Gints game).. with the same personnel that JC blames for his "unfair" struggles..
If JC stays.. he will a rude awakening of actually having to fight for his job and not be anointed because Snyder gave up the 2005 draft to select him.
I think (hope) the Shannys (Kyle and Mike) will bring in competition this summer and JC will have to put up numbers or sit on the bench.. Jason not starting wont be PC in DC..but I dont think the Shanahans will care.

Posted by: SkinsneedaGM | January 23, 2010 9:52 PM | Report abuse

totally agree that the Redskins arent going anywhere until they have an above average QB..
look who were the QB's of the playoff teams ?
Rivers/Peyton/Brees/Favre/Warner
even guys like Romo can make plays. Flacco is hurt and Palmer looks like his arm isnt right yet. Sanchez ? a year away from making noise, maybe, but still playing well enough

Point being you arent getting anywhere until you actually have someone who isnt a stiff and can hit open receivers and read a defense.

By all means, FIX the offensive line. but we wont get anywhere until we actually have a QB who can, and will, throw the ball downfield and not dump it off, or throw a Hail Mary 30 yards out of bounds..For those who are Campbell fans, treasure that piece of trivia as to where Campbell's last pass as a Redskin went..we are moving on next season without him...

Posted by: shally | January 23, 2010 9:56 PM | Report abuse

Posted by: SkinsneedaGM | January 23, 2010 9:52 PM

I only beat you up when you talk so highly about Kyle Orton and never mention the fact that he owes all his success to his sweet beard.

Posted by: Diesel44 | January 23, 2010 9:58 PM | Report abuse

As I said, there is more than one person responsible. I'm going to summarize all my posts on this subject. The whole offensive team blew donkeys at some point. No one person can be blamed. I think JC is an adequate QB at most. His mechanics are long and slow, his accuracy is inconsistent, and his reads are suspect. Having said that no one can play QB from his back or while running for their lives. JC has become tough but gunshy. He frequently looks at the pass rush and that kills a play. Can you blame him? They all need to be kicked squaw in the baggles.

Posted by: scampbell1975 | January 23, 2010 9:42 PM
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Agreed on the "gunshy"..
Jason is a big body worshipper.. (ie.. hanging right now at a yoga and pilates focused resort in the VI)...

I wonder if he has mentally never recovered from seeing his kneecap completely detached like a floating hockey puck back in 2007?
I played ball.. but, I actually got faster after recovering from an injury because I was chicken sh-it scared of getting injured again..haha.

Posted by: SkinsneedaGM | January 23, 2010 10:01 PM | Report abuse

Digger Phelps may match his tie with his highlighter but the dude probably scores more with the coeds than Tebow.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rc9073pxyzk

Posted by: Diesel44 | January 23, 2010 10:04 PM | Report abuse

More Digger diggin on a KU cheerleader.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l_8fLLMA1Tc&feature=related

Posted by: Diesel44 | January 23, 2010 10:06 PM | Report abuse

Zorn sold his soul to become OC, and then HC by agreeing to Campbell as his starter. there was simply NO WAY Zorn was in a strong enough position to dismiss the hand-picked QB of Gibbs and Snyder. Eventually, you have to pay for that kind of sell-out

Supposedly that was one of the things that kept GWilliams from getting the HC spot-- he didnt want to tie his future to Campbell.. we already knew that Saunders was NOT a fan of Campbell's and gloated how well his offense ran with Collins running it..

rest assured that Shanahan, Sr and Jr, arent about to tie their collective futures to Campbell's development..we might see Campbell for another year warming the seat for the eventual starter, but, more likely, he will bring what he can in draft compensation and then move on..

Posted by: shally | January 23, 2010 10:07 PM | Report abuse

On the show NFL Gameday, a piece was done on how the Packers compensated for their terrible O-line.

At first GB coaches decided to keep extra blockers in to protect Aaron Rodgers. With fewer options to throw to, Rodgers was still getting sacked.

So instead GB coaches began sending every1 into the pattern. They then reduced Rodgers movement to three-step and five-stop drops and asked him to either make a throw quickly or just take off running; No hesitation.

We seriously need to consider this strategy with Campbell.

Posted by: Vicc | January 23, 2010 10:07 PM | Report abuse

Posted by: SkinsneedaGM | January 23, 2010 9:52 PM

I only beat you up when you talk so highly about Kyle Orton and never mention the fact that he owes all his success to his sweet beard.

Posted by: Diesel44 | January 23, 2010 9:58 PM
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Kyle is a sleeper.. Even Bill Polian has a GM mancrush on him...

Rhino has a beard, too..
with anchovies and sausage bits ....

Posted by: SkinsneedaGM | January 23, 2010 10:08 PM | Report abuse

Predictions, predictions, predictions.

Sitting here just five miles from 'the Swamp' at the University of Florida, we again take P Harvin, some dude named Favre, and the rest of the vikes over the saints.

The real colts and P Manning will end the j-e-t-s cinderella-like run.

Favre v. Manning in Miami is a star-studded, dream Super Bowl that'll have the good people at CBS high-fiving.

Nothing against the losing teams, but we want our stars--Peyton and Brett--to war in an impossible steel cage-like contest featuring the best against the best.

Manning v. Favre: that's the promise of a great game, in a great town, in a great sport.

Posted by: MistaMoe | January 23, 2010 10:12 PM | Report abuse

Last Digger post but clearly Cal cheerleaders ain't too shabby.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rbEUc0heKOQ

Posted by: Diesel44 | January 23, 2010 10:12 PM | Report abuse

to Vicc:

that strategy will never work with Campbell because..

A. Campbell is way too slow in his reading of defenses. he eyeballs his first option for too long

B. Cambell's wind up and release are so slow, still, that he is too late getting the ball to the receiver or throws often behind the receiver (how often did we see that the past 2 years ??) despite having a strong arm.

C. Campbell is inaccurate on his throws, even when no rushed

D. Campbell has the worst touch on long throws of any QB i have seen in a long long time.. he knows it, and as such, he will seldom throw long anyway

even though Campbell and Rodgers were taken in the same draft, about 10 picks apart, they should be mentioned in the same paragraph.. and, by the way, Rodgers probably was battered more than Campbell because of his offensive line.. so much for that excuse...

time to move on at QB, and we will, i predict..

Posted by: shally | January 23, 2010 10:16 PM | Report abuse

Digger Phelps is the man - much better than the loud mouth "Diaper Dandy!!!" guy, I can't think of his name

Posted by: coparker5 | January 23, 2010 10:25 PM | Report abuse

"Mistamoe needs a job.."


Sorry, pal I do have a job.

The post where I mentioned that I'm unemployed is a complete joke.

I'm up at 5 am everyday getting myself ready to face another day of blood, sweat, and tears.

Excuse me, but I must prepare for work now.

(INSERT image with a panhandler Moe walking to a busy street corner with a sign stating "Will Work/Blog for Food" and the bucket mrsmoe gave him to use to collect whatever change folks toss in as they drive by.)

A guy's gotta do what a guy's gotta do.

Especially if his wife tells him how to do it.

Posted by: MistaMoe | January 23, 2010 10:26 PM | Report abuse

How and why you people keep the JC chatter up is really unbelievably stupid to me. It's as if you guys feel that if you keep posting the same stuff, you will be able to convince Shanahan what to do with the QB position. You guys remind me of thedrunk at the bar that repeats the same stuff over and overand over. Enough already.

Posted by: TWISI | January 23, 2010 10:30 PM | Report abuse

I think (hope) the Shannys (Kyle and Mike) will bring in competition this summer and JC will have to put up numbers or sit on the bench.. Jason not starting wont be PC in DC..but I dont think the Shanahans will care.

Posted by: SkinsneedaGM | January 23, 2010 9:52 PM |

I certainly hope so. At least JC has one thing going for him. He's played in every damn offense known to man.

Posted by: scampbell1975 | January 23, 2010 10:33 PM | Report abuse

Digger Phelps is the man - much better than the loud mouth "Diaper Dandy!!!" guy, I can't think of his name

Posted by: coparker5 | January 23, 2010 10:25 PM

His name is Dukie V and he committed suicide after Duke got blown out by NC State last week.

F Dallas
F Duke

Posted by: Diesel44 | January 23, 2010 10:33 PM | Report abuse

How and why you people keep the JC chatter up is really unbelievably stupid to me. It's as if you guys feel that if you keep posting the same stuff, you will be able to convince Shanahan what to do with the QB position. You guys remind me of thedrunk at the bar that repeats the same stuff over and overand over. Enough already.

Posted by: TWISI | January 23, 2010 10:30 PM |

It is continually forced upon us. I tried to give up that talk a while ago but someone called me out as a member of a certain QB fan club and I felt that I should respond. Having said that, you are certainly not required to comment oln it if you don't wish. Yet you did...hmmm.

Posted by: scampbell1975 | January 23, 2010 10:39 PM | Report abuse

Predictions, predictions, predictions.

Sitting here just five miles from 'the Swamp' at the University of Florida, we again take P Harvin, some dude named Favre, and the rest of the vikes over the saints.

The real colts and P Manning will end the j-e-t-s cinderella-like run.

Favre v. Manning in Miami is a star-studded, dream Super Bowl that'll have the good people at CBS high-fiving.

Nothing against the losing teams, but we want our stars--Peyton and Brett--to war in an impossible steel cage-like contest featuring the best against the best.

Manning v. Favre: that's the promise of a great game, in a great town, in a great sport.

Posted by: MistaMoe | January 23, 2010 10:12 PM
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might also be fun to see Favre in the SB against his former Jets team that dissed him after his departure....
Rex might have a solution to Peyton.. they beat the Jets before..albeit not a playoff game and/or must win for the colts.

On a related but different note..
wonder if snyder is feeling like a jilted lover watching his Sanchez boy succeed in the playoffs??

Danny, all you had to do was agree to the 3rd rounder that was offered for JC last March..and added another pick from this year..and Sanchez would of been a Redskin!!
But, your ego got in the way.. JC cost you a 1st, 3rd and 4th in 2005.. No way would you accept only a 3rd round pick for him in 2009.
And ironies of ironies. It may be the compensation you accept for him in 2010.

Posted by: SkinsneedaGM | January 23, 2010 10:39 PM | Report abuse

How and why you people keep the JC chatter up is really unbelievably stupid to me. It's as if you guys feel that if you keep posting the same stuff, you will be able to convince Shanahan what to do with the QB position. You guys remind me of the drunk at the bar that repeats the same stuff over and overand over. Enough already.

Posted by: TWISI | January 23, 2010 10:30 PM |
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I'm not at a Bar!!

Posted by: SkinsneedaGM | January 23, 2010 10:43 PM | Report abuse

Posted by: TWISI | January 23, 2010 10:30 PM

Speaking of bars...

The bar analogy.

JC is not the ugliest girl at the bar and she's certainly not the prettiest but this is DC and Megan Fox ain't walking thru that door this year.

The last time I used this analogy, MF's thumbs were discussed for 5 days.

Posted by: Diesel44 | January 23, 2010 10:44 PM | Report abuse

I wish someone with alot of time on their hands and a video editing background.. Would do a split screen video of Jason sitting on the bench between series, with his usual lost blank look staring into nowhere... And a senior citizen walking aimlessly in a parking lot looking for their car..
Its the same Damn look.

Posted by: SkinsneedaGM | January 23, 2010 10:46 PM | Report abuse

Hey TWISI, I've got an idea, instead of b!tching about the Washington Redskins quarterback discussion that some people are having on a Washington Redskins blog why don't you introduce a topic more to your liking?

Posted by: scampbell1975 | January 23, 2010 10:53 PM | Report abuse

Bad time to get into the real estate game anyway.

One thing's for sure, those Cross Fit women didn't grow up in the south.

Posted by: SMACK1 | January 23, 2010 10:53 PM | Report abuse

JC is not the ugliest girl at the bar and she's certainly not the prettiest but this is DC and Megan Fox ain't walking thru that door this year.

The last time I used this analogy, MF's thumbs were discussed for 5 days.

Posted by: Diesel44 | January 23, 2010 10:44 PM
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Sanchez was Snyder's Megan Fox.

Posted by: SkinsneedaGM | January 23, 2010 10:55 PM | Report abuse

One thing's for sure, those Cross Fit women didn't grow up in the south.

Posted by: SMACK1 | January 23, 2010 10:53 PM
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Smack..
speaking of "Plus size women"..I grew up in the south.. and the most trouble I ever got into was when a group of us, in grade school, discovered WD40 melted spandex..

Posted by: SkinsneedaGM | January 23, 2010 11:00 PM | Report abuse

Sanchez was Snyder's Megan Fox.

Posted by: SkinsneedaGM | January 23, 2010 10:55 PM

Since you like stats so much....

JaMarcus Russell, 2008-09: 198-for-368, 2,423 yards, 13 TDs.

Mark Sanchez, 2009-10: 196-for-364, 2,444 yards, 12 TDs.

The biggest difference is in interceptions, where Sanchez was significantly worse, throwing 20 interceptions to Russell's eight.

Sanchez is more like Tara Reid.


Posted by: Diesel44 | January 23, 2010 11:02 PM | Report abuse

Sanchez was Snyder's Megan Fox.

Posted by: SkinsneedaGM | January 23, 2010 10:55 PM

Since you like stats so much....

JaMarcus Russell, 2008-09: 198-for-368, 2,423 yards, 13 TDs.

Mark Sanchez, 2009-10: 196-for-364, 2,444 yards, 12 TDs.

The biggest difference is in interceptions, where Sanchez was significantly worse, throwing 20 interceptions to Russell's eight.

Sanchez is more like Tara Reid.


Posted by: Diesel44 | January 23, 2010 11:02 PM
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calm down, Diesel.. you misunderstood.. I wasnt talking about football..

Posted by: SkinsneedaGM | January 23, 2010 11:08 PM | Report abuse

Posted by: scampbell1975 | January 23, 2010 10:53 PM

TWISI posts are a double feature while your posts go straight to DVD.

TWISI posts rumble in the jungle while yours got touched by your uncle.

TWISI posts need no introduction while yours don't even function.

Bottom-line TWISI is a must read and I wish I didn't read your passive aggressive post aimed at TWISI.

Posted by: Diesel44 | January 23, 2010 11:10 PM | Report abuse

And it's not like we don't have a book on Shanahan the talent evaluator: He's bad at it. Like Joe Gibbs, Shanahan is one helluva coach but not particularly insightful as a talent evaluator. In fact, the record already shows Shanahan drafted bust after bust after bust in an effort to fix the defense when he was coach in Denver. Even Elvis Dumervil was drafted to play the wrong position and became an all-pro after Shanahan departed. Shanahan the personnel man undermined Shanahan the coach so badly, he was fired after twice not making the playoffs. So, moving from Denver to Washington is going to change all that?

GREAT WORDS FROM A GREAT ANALYST!

Posted by: KurtShanaman | January 23, 2010 11:10 PM | Report abuse

Posted by: SkinsneedaGM | January 23, 2010 11:08 PM

I know. I compare everything to hot chicks and was appalled that you used Sanchez and Fox in the same sentence.

Posted by: Diesel44 | January 23, 2010 11:15 PM | Report abuse

(Jan. 23) -- A United Airlines flight from Washington Dulles International Airport to Las Vegas was diverted to Denver Saturday after a passenger walked to the front of a plane and tried to open an exit door in flight, passengers said.

"I would say there was six or seven people involved in subduing him," said Eynon. "He was very disoriented."

Transportation Security Administration spokeswoman said the Federal Bureau of Investigation was interviewing the man. She said she did not know the man's name.

Holloman described the passenger as about 6' 1" and up to 270 pounds with blond hair and wispy facial hair. "He was a large guy and an unkempt guy," he said.

Officials from the Federal Bureau of Investigation, Transportation Security Administration and Denver Police Department were on scene.

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Was this Rhino looking for pizza, again??

Posted by: SkinsneedaGM | January 23, 2010 11:16 PM | Report abuse

Was this Rhino looking for pizza, again??

Posted by: SkinsneedaGM | January 23, 2010 11:16 PM

Cory Raymer former Badger and Redskin center. Close but no Kyle Orton beard.

Posted by: Diesel44 | January 23, 2010 11:19 PM | Report abuse

Dieselfumes.. hard to admit this.. but you're right.. just saw Rhino's booking photo..

http://liveshots.blogs.foxnews.com/2010/01/19/nfl-player-arrested-in-iowa/?test=latestnews

Posted by: SkinsneedaGM | January 23, 2010 11:24 PM | Report abuse

MINNEAPOLIS—All corners of the sporting world sounded off against the Minnesota Vikings this week for their conduct at the end of their divisional playoff game against the Dallas Cowboys, saying that even after a late touchdown made the score 34-3, the Vikings were obligated by general principle to humiliate the Cowboys further by attempting to score even more points. "As far as I'm concerned, by holding back against Dallas, the Vikings showed a complete disregard for gamesmanship,"said ESPN analyst Mark Schlereth, adding that, when a team has the Cowboys down, stomping on their throats and trying to win by 50 or even 60 points is the classy thing to do. "How about a long bomb to Rice while Terence Newman is half-assing it and looking ahead to next season? Maybe a fake punt? Maybe rubbing their noses in it by sending eight men to cripple Tony Romo? All I have to say is that [Vikings coach] Brad Childress should be ashamed of himself." Vikings quarterback Brett Favre responded to the controversy by saying that no team wants to be on the same field as the Cowboys any longer than they have to be..

Posted by: Diesel44 | January 23, 2010 11:25 PM | Report abuse

But, your ego got in the way.. JC cost you a 1st, 3rd and 4th in 2005.. No way would you accept only a 3rd round pick for him in 2009.
And ironies of ironies. It may be the compensation you accept for him in 2010.

Posted by: SkinsneedaGM | January 23, 2010 10:39 PM |

Last year was worth a 3rd. After all the film on him this year if someone offers a 3rd - SOLD, quick run and help him pack before they change their mind.

If someone offers a 4th, take it and run.

Maybe Al Davis will go for a 3rd, he seems to like strongarm QB's who can't read defenses.

Posted by: HPYTRKR1 | January 23, 2010 11:26 PM | Report abuse

Posted by: Diesel44 | January 23, 2010 11:25 PM |

Are you really J. Reid and using Diesel44 is the only way that you can say what you really want.

Posted by: HPYTRKR1 | January 23, 2010 11:33 PM | Report abuse

MINNEAPOLIS -- Tempers flared Sunday at the Metrodome after Minnesota's final touchdown of a 34-3 playoff victory over Dallas, as Cowboys linebacker Keith Brooking sprinted toward the Vikings' sideline, taunting coach Brad Childress and later calling the late score "classless."

Vikings nose tackle Pat Williams, meanwhile, said Brooking was lucky to escape the Minnesota sideline in one piece.

"We don't care what Keith Brooking says," Williams said. "He was about to get his ass whupped on our sideline over there. It don't matter. Nobody said anything when they blew out the Eagles [the past two weeks].

"It's the playoffs. It ain't no regular-season game. If you lose, you go home. We take no pity on them. Do they expect us to? I don't care about no Brooking. He can say whatever he wants to say."


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With the Vikings leading 27-3 late in the fourth quarter, Childress left his starters in the game. The Cowboys gave up the ball on downs at their 37-yard line with 5:26 remaining, and the Vikings threw three passes on their ensuing six-play drive. The final one was an 11-yard touchdown pass to tight end Visanthe Shiancoe on fourth-and-3 with 1:55 remaining.

"Just staying aggressive with it, if you will," Childress said after the game. "We put our defense back on the field and we talked to all the coordinators -- offense, defense, special-teams guys -- that we weren't going to put the field goal group on the field.

"As Lou Holtz used to say, 'It's our job to score points. It's their job to stop us from scoring points.' That happens. It wasn't rubbing it in. It's just taking care of business and being aggressive at the end of the game."

Cowboys coach Wade Phillips said the Vikings ran up the score, and Brooking agreed.

"I thought it was classless," Brooking said. "I thought it was B.S. Granted, we get paid to stop them, but we had zero timeouts left. I didn't think there was any call for that."

Shiancoe laughed after hearing Brooking's comments. "OK, we apologize. I'm sorry. Better?"

F Dallas

Posted by: Diesel44 | January 23, 2010 11:37 PM | Report abuse

If someone offers a 4th, take it and run.

Maybe Al Davis will go for a 3rd, he seems to like strongarm QB's who can't read defenses.

Posted by: HPYTRKR1 | January 23, 2010 11:26 PM
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H Cah-rap.. "a 4th"?
After giving up a 1st, 3rd, and 4th for him? You know what really suks.. the 4th rounder from the JC deal was used by the Broncos to acquire all-pro but albeit..pain in the ass, Brandon Marshall..
More ironies.. Shanahan gives up a 2nd and/or one or more players to acquire Marshall in 2010.

Posted by: SkinsneedaGM | January 23, 2010 11:39 PM | Report abuse

Dieselfumes.. hard to admit this.. but you're right.. just saw Rhino's booking photo..

http://liveshots.blogs.foxnews.com/2010/01/19/nfl-player-arrested-in-iowa/?test=latestnews

Posted by: SkinsneedaGM | January 23, 2010 11:24 PM

I'd say don't poke the bear but dieselfumes is funny and I've been railing you for awhile about Orton.

Posted by: Diesel44 | January 23, 2010 11:41 PM | Report abuse

Here's an interesting fun stat. I looked up explosive plays in the passing game and running game for the Redskins and Broncos referencing years 2005-2008. For 2005-2007 here's how it broke down:

Passing Denver:

plays 2005 2006 2007 total plays

20+/40+ 44/8 34/6 42/7 141 plays

Passing Washington:

plays 2005 2006 2007 total plays

20+/40+ 40/11 39/10 43/6 149 plays

In 2008 Denver had 55 20+ passing plays and 7 40+ passing play for a total of 62 explosive plays. In 2008 the Redskins had 34 20+ plays and 3 40+ plays for a total of 37 explosive plays.

What can we take from this? It seems to me that those looking for a more explosive passing game may be sorely over estimating the aspect of Shanhan's playbook. The 2008 results shows a variance that could be the result of the fact that the Broncos had no running backs, and had to pass to be competitive. I hope to sww that while reviewing the rushing explosive plays. 'll also check out Kyle's play calling results and post later.

Posted by: TWISI | January 23, 2010 11:41 PM | Report abuse

Posted by: Diesel44 | January 23, 2010 11:25 PM |

Are you really J. Reid and using Diesel44 is the only way that you can say what you really want.

Posted by: HPYTRKR1 | January 23, 2010 11:33 PM

I'm Cindy Boren and I'm carrying League-Source's love child.

Posted by: Diesel44 | January 23, 2010 11:42 PM | Report abuse

Posted by: Diesel44 | January 23, 2010 11:42 PM

LMFAO - Now that is funny in a wierd sorta of way.

Posted by: HPYTRKR1 | January 23, 2010 11:49 PM | Report abuse

What can we take from this? It seems to me that those looking for a more explosive passing game may be sorely over estimating the aspect of Shanhan's playbook. The 2008 results shows a variance that could be the result of the fact that the Broncos had no running backs, and had to pass to be competitive. I hope to sww that while reviewing the rushing explosive plays. 'll also check out Kyle's play calling results and post later.

Posted by: TWISI | January 23, 2010 11:41 PM
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Maybe because I am 18 and was home schooled.. but, I see about a 30 percent improvement.

Posted by: SkinsneedaGM | January 23, 2010 11:49 PM | Report abuse

Posted by: scampbell1975 | January 23, 2010 10:53 PM

TWISI posts are a double feature while your posts go straight to DVD.

TWISI posts rumble in the jungle while yours got touched by your uncle.

TWISI posts need no introduction while yours don't even function.

Bottom-line TWISI is a must read and I wish I didn't read your passive aggressive post aimed at TWISI.


Posted by: Diesel44 | January 23, 2010 11:10 PM

Mine may go straight to DVD but yours is nothing more than a Tijuana donkey show, which oh by the way, you're late for your staring role in the 11:30 showing.

Posted by: scampbell1975 | January 23, 2010 11:52 PM | Report abuse

Here's a look at explosive rushing plays:

Denver

plays 2005 2006 2007 total plays

20+/40+ 17/5 16/4 18/3 63 plays

Washington

plays 2005 2006 2007 total plays

20+/40+ 10/3 13/0 6/0 32 plays

In 2008 Denver had 8 20+ plays and 2 40+ plays for a total of 10 plays. The Redskins had 17 20+plays and 0 40+ plays for 17 explosive plays. We can see the big difference in the two offenses are the big plays from the rushing attacks, particularly over 40 yards.

IMO the rushing attack will be addressed this offseason.

Posted by: TWISI | January 23, 2010 11:53 PM | Report abuse

I'd say don't poke the bear but dieselfumes is funny and I've been railing you for awhile about Orton.

Posted by: Diesel44 | January 23, 2010 11:41 PM
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the bearded one's (Orton) rating improved nearly 20 points this year.. and next year he will make me a football oracle.

you can bow to me now.. and beat the crowds..

Posted by: SkinsneedaGM | January 23, 2010 11:54 PM | Report abuse

Maybe because I am 18 and was home schooled.. but, I see about a 30 percent improvement.

Posted by: SkinsneedaGM | January 23, 2010 11:49 PM

Not sure what you're talking about?

Posted by: TWISI | January 23, 2010 11:55 PM | Report abuse

Diesel, I don't think you understand what passive-aggressive is. I am the very definition of aggressive. There is not now, nor has there ever been, anything passive about me. i was trying to tone it down a little but if you like I can certainly turn up the blue rhetoric for you.

Posted by: scampbell1975 | January 23, 2010 11:57 PM | Report abuse

Houston under Kyle Shanahan:

Passing 20+ 40+

2008 60 12

2009 63 15

Rushing 20+ 40+

2008 13 5

2009 4 0

Looks like Kyle is an aggressive, creative play caller in the passing game with double digit plays over 40 yards in both years, and over 4 explosive passing plays per game. Nice.

Posted by: TWISI | January 24, 2010 12:04 AM | Report abuse

Posted by: scampbell1975 | January 23, 2010 11:52 PM

My posts are V.I.P while your posts need I.D.

I read yours posts too. Sergio, don't take yourself so serious. This place would suck if passive aggressiveness ever became a bad thing.

Don’t make me report you for not agreeing with whatever I am saying, ok ?

Posted by: Diesel44 | January 24, 2010 12:05 AM | Report abuse

Maybe because I am 18 and was home schooled.. but, I see about a 30 percent improvement.

Posted by: SkinsneedaGM | January 23, 2010 11:49 PM

Not sure what you're talking about?

Posted by: TWISI | January 23, 2010 11:55 PM
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twisi, I was just stating that
it would appear to be a significant difference in these categories between Shanny's 2008 team and the Skins in 2008.

2008 Comparison.
Denver 20 yards or more plays, 39 percent greater than Skins.
Denver 40 yards or more plays, 58 percent better than the Skins.

Posted by: SkinsneedaGM | January 24, 2010 12:14 AM | Report abuse

Diesel, I don't think you understand what passive-aggressive is. I am the very definition of aggressive. There is not now, nor has there ever been, anything passive about me. i was trying to tone it down a little but if you like I can certainly turn up the blue rhetoric for you.

Posted by: scampbell1975 | January 23, 2010 11:57 PM

I familiar with your act. RedDMV is aggressive. I was referring to your post regarding TWSI. Red has set the bar, if aggressive is what you’re looking for, you ain’t got the blue to pull it off.

BTW. Aggressiveness on a anonymous board isn't something to strive for if that’s your goal.

Posted by: Diesel44 | January 24, 2010 12:15 AM | Report abuse

Posted by: scampbell1975 | January 23, 2010 11:52 PM

My posts are V.I.P while your posts need I.D.

I read yours posts too. Sergio, don't take yourself so serious. This place would suck if passive aggressiveness ever became a bad thing.

Don’t make me report you for not agreeing with whatever I am saying, ok ?


Posted by: Diesel44 | January 24, 2010 12:05 AM |

Sergio no tako himselfo too seriouslio. Just staying in character. At least you can rhyme your acronyms. As I said earlier, sublety and tact are not my strong suits.

Posted by: scampbell1975 | January 24, 2010 12:16 AM | Report abuse

Not sure I would label Shanahan the GM as bad. Denver had some good picks and some bad picks just like any team. The 2006 draft has 5-6 guys who start in the NFL. It could be that the Denver scouting department is not that good. Anyway I guess we will see.

BTW Dumervil's stats show the normal progress of a developing player, with the exception of 2008 which appears to be a down year.

Season Tackles Sacks PDef Int Fumbles
2009 49 - 17.0 - 3 - 0 - 4
2008 24 - 5.0 - 0 - 0 - 1
2007 39 - 12.5 - 4 - 1 - 4
2006 13 - 8.5 - 1 - 0 - 1
TOTAL 129 - 43.0 - 8 - 1 - 10

Posted by: lifelongfan | January 24, 2010 12:17 AM | Report abuse

Diesel, I don't think you understand what passive-aggressive is. I am the very definition of aggressive. There is not now, nor has there ever been, anything passive about me. i was trying to tone it down a little but if you like I can certainly turn up the blue rhetoric for you.

Posted by: scampbell1975 | January 23, 2010 11:57 PM

I'm familiar with your act. RedDMV is aggressive. I was referring to your post regarding TWSI. Red has set the bar, if aggressive is what you’re looking for, you ain’t got the blue to pull it off.

BTW. Aggressiveness on a anonymous board isn't something to strive for if that’s your goal.

Posted by: Diesel44 | January 24, 2010 12:17 AM | Report abuse

I familiar with your act. RedDMV is aggressive. I was referring to your post regarding TWSI. Red has set the bar, if aggressive is what you’re looking for, you ain’t got the blue to pull it off.

BTW. Aggressiveness on a anonymous board isn't something to strive for if that’s your goal.


Posted by: Diesel44 | January 24, 2010 12:15 AM

Yes, Red sets the bar, we have different styles. I don't try to imitate. Aggressiveness is an overall characteristic that doesn't change when I start typing. I was trying to tone it down with Twisi but I see that doesn't fly.

Posted by: scampbell1975 | January 24, 2010 12:20 AM | Report abuse

sons of b!tches...double post

sons of b!tches...double post

Posted by: Diesel44 | January 24, 2010 12:20 AM | Report abuse

Diesel, I don't think you understand what passive-aggressive is. I am the very definition of aggressive. There is not now, nor has there ever been, anything passive about me. i was trying to tone it down a little but if you like I can certainly turn up the blue rhetoric for you.

Posted by: scampbell1975 | January 23, 2010 11:57 PM

I'm familiar with your act. RedDMV is aggressive. I was referring to your post regarding TWSI. Red has set the bar, if aggressive is what you’re looking for, you ain’t got the blue to pull it off.

BTW. Aggressiveness on a anonymous board isn't something to strive for if that’s your goal.

Posted by: Diesel44 | January 24, 2010 12:17 AM
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Here's an idea.. lets make this a JC bashing discussion..
ummmm
JC was passive aggressive..

Passive for 16 games.....

Aggressive when making vacation plans and getting the F out of town.

Posted by: SkinsneedaGM | January 24, 2010 12:22 AM | Report abuse

Here's an idea.. lets make this a JC bashing discussion..
ummmm
JC was passive aggressive..

Passive for 16 games.....

Aggressive when making vacation plans and getting the F out of town.

Posted by: SkinsneedaGM | January 24, 2010 12:22 AM |

Wouldn't you be if you just had a 4 win season in DC?

Posted by: scampbell1975 | January 24, 2010 12:27 AM | Report abuse

twisi, I was just stating that
it would appear to be a significant difference in these categories between Shanny's 2008 team and the Skins in 2008.

2008 Comparison.
Denver 20 yards or more plays, 39 percent greater than Skins.
Denver 40 yards or more plays, 58 percent better than the Skins.

Posted by: SkinsneedaGM | January 24, 2010 12:14 AM |

I see. Isn't it curious how the Broncos, perceived by some on this blog to be a big play passing team, and the Skins produced about the same amount of explosive plays in the passing game from 2005-2007. In 2008 the Broncos pushed the ball down the field more. It could be that Cutler, Marshall, Shaffler grew in the system and were able to make more plays. You'd also have to consider that the Broncos we in shoot outs in 2008 because of their defense; in addition they we hampered rushing the ball because of their RB injuries.

Posted by: TWISI | January 24, 2010 12:29 AM | Report abuse

Here's an idea.. lets make this a JC bashing discussion..
ummmm
JC was passive aggressive..

Passive for 16 games.....

Aggressive when making vacation plans and getting the F out of town.

Posted by: SkinsneedaGM | January 24, 2010 12:22 AM |

Wouldn't you be if you just had a 4 win season in DC?

Posted by: scampbell1975 | January 24, 2010 12:27 AM
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yep.. you're right shrimpscamper75.. I'd be doing the exact same thing..
Taking pilates and yoga in the Virgin Islands.. (its a tax write off as off-season conditioning which is related to my job). And then lay on the beach with my blackberry and check my bank account (confirm that last 16th 200k direct deposit from Ashburn.. yippee). Then browse over to the RI and see what the morons are saying about me...and have a good laugh while sipping my pina colada that I have pulled this off for 5 years... Thank You Joe Gibbs

Posted by: SkinsneedaGM | January 24, 2010 12:41 AM | Report abuse

Hmmm...shrimpscamper...don't believe I've ever been refered to that way.

Posted by: scampbell1975 | January 24, 2010 12:45 AM | Report abuse

Is it anything like shrimp scampi?

Posted by: msrent | January 24, 2010 12:49 AM | Report abuse

Is it anything like shrimp scampi?


Posted by: msrent | January 24, 2010 12:49 AM |

Better ask my wife that question.

Posted by: scampbell1975 | January 24, 2010 12:50 AM | Report abuse

It's getting slow, so by the way, I'm tired of hearing about Haiti too.

Posted by: msrent | January 24, 2010 12:51 AM | Report abuse

Night all. HAIL!

Posted by: scampbell1975 | January 24, 2010 12:51 AM | Report abuse

I won't go there. No offense meant. Never heard of shrimpscamper either.

Posted by: msrent | January 24, 2010 12:53 AM | Report abuse

HAIL!!

Posted by: msrent | January 24, 2010 12:54 AM | Report abuse

Hmmm...shrimpscamper...don't believe I've ever been refered to that way.

Posted by: scampbell1975 | January 24, 2010 12:45 AM
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yeah.. I was thinking shrimp scampi..
shrimp is top of mind.. got a 10 gallon drum of shrimp sitting in the kitchen waiting to be peeled. Pulled in, 3 miles offshore from Boston this morning.
Nothing like the sweet taste of fresh shrimp. Its just the peeling and cleaning that suks..

Posted by: SkinsneedaGM | January 24, 2010 12:57 AM | Report abuse

It's getting slow, so by the way, I'm tired of hearing about Haiti too.

Posted by: msrent | January 24, 2010 12:51 AM
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Haiti.. Our new 51st State.

Posted by: SkinsneedaGM | January 24, 2010 12:59 AM | Report abuse

I think it's been one for years, all the money we sent there.

Posted by: msrent | January 24, 2010 1:02 AM | Report abuse

Shrimp 3 miles from Boston? Didn't know they were that far north.

Posted by: msrent | January 24, 2010 1:04 AM | Report abuse

I cango for some shrimp too. My wife won't have anything to do with 'em. She calls them sea roaches. I'd love to grill a few with butter & garlic right now.

Posted by: msrent | January 24, 2010 1:09 AM | Report abuse

NEWSFLASH:

'SKINS trade HAYNESWORTH to SAN FRANCISCO for their first and sixth this year and take C.J. SPILLER with the first pick and ERIC OLSEN with the sixth. Well a fella' can dream can't he?.

Posted by: glawrence007 | January 24, 2010 1:16 AM | Report abuse

I think if they work Haynesworth out this summer, bring him to camp and get hisbig butt in shape, he will be a game changer. He ain't bad fat & outta shape.

Posted by: msrent | January 24, 2010 1:22 AM | Report abuse

I'm thinking 30-60#s, take some of that impact off those ankles. He was pretty good til he got hurt. Played a lot of downs at first, then it wasdown hill. He can make a difference.

Posted by: msrent | January 24, 2010 1:30 AM | Report abuse

It's getting slow, so by the way, I'm tired of hearing about Haiti too.

Posted by: msrent | January 24, 2010 12:51 AM

That is not a fair thing to say, I'm disgusted at the least, and you should be ashamed. When our country was hit by known enemy on 911, the entire planet was shaken to its roots, the entire world responded, and till today, the news about 911 continues. By contrast, Haitian catastrophe is non natural, it is an unusual act of God, too many are dead; men, women, young and old, I think hearing about for couple more months or more is not too much; however, if you are still tired of hearing about Haiti, then turn the source off!

Posted by: abxinc | January 24, 2010 8:29 AM | Report abuse

these guys on the ESPN sportsreporters are a bunch of morons...

don't these idiots know that the reason Adrian Peterson hasn't broken a long one lately is because the defense are putting 8 guys in the box to stop him???

and that is also why Favre is having such a great season???

Posted by: joek443 | January 24, 2010 9:47 AM | Report abuse

It's getting slow, so by the way, I'm tired of hearing about Haiti too.

Posted by: msrent | January 24, 2010 12:51 AM

msrent, what's the point of you?

Posted by: mack1 | January 24, 2010 9:56 AM | Report abuse

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