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Redskins sign Eddie Williams to active roster

The Redskins have signed fullback Eddie Williams, their seventh-round (221st overall) draft choice in April, to the active roster, and added tackle Clint Oldenburg to the practice squad.

Oldenburg, a free agent, was a fifth-round draft pick by the New England Patriots in 2007. He also has played for the New York Jets, Denver Broncos, St. Louis Rams and Minnesota Vikings.

The spot on the active roster was created when offensive tackle Chris Samuels was placed on the season-ending injured-reserve list Saturday.

By Jason Reid  |  November 2, 2009; 11:02 AM ET
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They can go out and sign freakin' Eddie Winslow and still yield the same results week in and week out.

Posted by: RedDMV | November 2, 2009 11:22 AM | Report abuse

1st to say there's no crying in the NFL

Posted by: 4thFloor | November 2, 2009 11:25 AM | Report abuse

Finally! I've been saying all year that the answer to all the Redskins problems could be solved just by signing Eddie Williams to the active roster!

Watch out, Atlanta.

Posted by: dmorgan6617 | November 2, 2009 11:25 AM | Report abuse

Fullback?

[Head in hands...]

Posted by: daggar | November 2, 2009 11:27 AM | Report abuse

How can you not replace CHRIS SAMUELS with a LINEMAN!!

DISGUSTING!

Posted by: BenchCampbell | November 2, 2009 11:29 AM | Report abuse

WTF!! A fullback? The problem is the o line and they sign a full back to the active roster. I am really starting to wonder wtf vinny has on Dan. No way Dan can be this damn stupid to allow this clown to keep running the team.

Posted by: jm220 | November 2, 2009 11:29 AM | Report abuse

What the F are we going to do with another Fullback!!??

Posted by: BenchCampbell | November 2, 2009 11:30 AM | Report abuse

How can you not replace CHRIS SAMUELS with a LINEMAN!!

DISGUSTING!

Posted by: BenchCampbell | November 2, 2009 11:29 AM | Report abuse

We did with Levi, just need to get him on the field.

Posted by: alex35332 | November 2, 2009 11:32 AM | Report abuse

Doesn't matter if they sign another fullback or extra punter at this point. There isn't anyone that they can bring in off the street right now that will make much of a difference on this team. Just have to live with the fact that if this team is going to improve, it'll have to come from guys on the current roster stepping up.

Posted by: dfbovey | November 2, 2009 11:32 AM | Report abuse

With an uncapped year, it is amazing that we didn't try and trade as many players as possible to get draft picks... The "experts" are saying that this draft is going to have an unprecedented amount of Juniors coming out this year, to "juke" the Rookie Scale the following year. Especially players like Carlos Rogers that we will let go in the offseason for free... Although, he may be like Soups and become a Restricted FA since I believe he is still on his Rookie Scale.

CLEGG

Posted by: michael_b_clegg | November 2, 2009 11:33 AM | Report abuse

For GOD's sake, slow down your beepage!!!

REPOST:

Now that's some damm fine reporting and analysis, J. Reid in your "After the Bye" piece.

The fact that Dan Snyder and Vinny Cerrato are making football decisions for this team is what is wrong with this team.

Big decisions like you said, or even the small ones like drafting and releasing Spencer Havner, former UCLA linebacker. Åll he did this weekend was catch two Red Zone TD passes for another team after the 'skins cut him. (If you're keeping score, that's one more than Devin Thomas has caught in his entire NFL career.) Snyderatto never suspected a position switch as the answer, and that's the point.

It all adds up, Snyderatto: Not knowing the potential of your inexperienced coach, the abilities of your QB, the health of your Oline, who to draft, the maturity effect of the three second rounders, the speed of Archuletta, that Rino can't play tackle,Taylor can't play LDE, the diminished (if they ever existed) skills of Brandon Lloyd, and so on and so on.

Posted by: TheCork | November 2, 2009 11:33 AM | Report abuse

We need special teams players and a possible replacement for Sellers.

We aren't getting anymore valuable OLine help off the Street after we picked up Levi Jones.

Anthony Munez is not walking through dem doors...

Posted by: 4thFloor | November 2, 2009 11:33 AM | Report abuse

BS on poor Jason Camb. Aaron Rogers sacked more times with less of a running game makes plays all game long so give me a break with this he can't do it. JC has had plenty of time on plays and still missed receivers.

All I hear is excuses other teams don't make them we do.

He's learning a new system, Orton is learning a new system they are 7-1.

I heard no excuses out of Denver about Orton learning a new system.

All the excuses are Horse sh_t if you can play then you can play if you can't you can't.

Posted by: Flounder21 | November 2, 2009 11:33 AM | Report abuse

Dont know if this is old news but Jim Zorn has ruled out the possibility of Levi Jones starting over Stephon Heyer A.K.A the saloon door

Posted by: BenchCampbell | November 2, 2009 11:34 AM | Report abuse

hope this makes Sellers remember how to block.

Posted by: PortisPocketsStr8 | November 2, 2009 11:34 AM | Report abuse

Dauphine, we need a poll.

Who Up Here thinks that this choice is El Zorno the Magnificent, or do you think it's straight from the Money You Could Be Saving With Geico?

Posted by: daggar | November 2, 2009 11:34 AM | Report abuse

Finally! I've been saying all year that the answer to all the Redskins problems could be solved just by signing Eddie Williams to the active roster!

Watch out, Atlanta.

Posted by: dmorgan6617

Stop the Sarcasm! the 'skins now lead the league in something... the most "Ed Williams" on an active roster.

Posted by: TheCork | November 2, 2009 11:35 AM | Report abuse

Asked in a radio interview about the recent addition of a Fullback Eddie Williams, Cerrato had this to say:

"Well some people think you should address a need when a roster spot opens up like this, but I consider that reaching. What we did was get the best player available and add him to our active roster. I'm confident that I will find a good way for the coaches to use this player."

Posted by: REXskins | November 2, 2009 11:35 AM | Report abuse

I don't mind this move at all actually. Sellers has been less than consistent in his blocking and let's see if this kid can block. Since we play a lot of 21 personnel, it is in essence signing a OLineman if the kid can actually lead block. If that is the case, Sellers will continue to play on Spec Teams.

CLEGG

Posted by: michael_b_clegg | November 2, 2009 11:35 AM | Report abuse

Dont know if this is old news but Jim Zorn has ruled out the possibility of Levi Jones starting over Stephon Heyer A.K.A the saloon door

Posted by: BenchCampbell | November 2, 2009 11:36 AM | Report abuse

Dont know if this is old news but Jim Zorn has ruled out the possibility of Levi Jones starting over Stephon Heyer A.K.A the saloon door

Posted by: BenchCampbell | November 2, 2009 11:36 AM | Report abuse

We aren't getting anymore valuable OLine help off the Street after we picked up Levi Jones.

Posted by: 4th Floor

Any MORE valuable Oline help? Cerrato signs a guy no other football team has wanted all year and he's VALUABLE Oline help?

Yeah, sure, he's another Jeremy Bridges or Big Mike WIlliams or Geisinger pr Rino or Heyer or....sorry, can't see the keyboard thru the tears

Posted by: TheCork | November 2, 2009 11:38 AM | Report abuse

Now that guy Oldenburg...now THERE's your valuable Oline help.

Posted by: TheCork | November 2, 2009 11:39 AM | Report abuse

what a joke... vinny must go...

Posted by: jimmy_the_crickett | November 2, 2009 11:39 AM | Report abuse

"Well some people think you should address a need when a roster spot opens up like this, but I consider that reaching. What we did was get the best player available and add him to our active roster. I'm confident that I will find a good way for the coaches to use this player."

Posted by: REXskins

Dunno if u made this up or if Cerrato actually said this, but I acually was impressed by this kid in the pre-season. Looks lie he can block. And my opinion was backed up by the guy who greeted me at Sears, who was one of the guys he blocked in the pre-season.


No seriously, kid has a shot.

Posted by: TheCork | November 2, 2009 11:41 AM | Report abuse

whoa... this guy must be really good... 6 teams in less than 3 years... way to go vinny... how about signing john runyan or jason fabini or todd wade...

Posted by: jimmy_the_crickett | November 2, 2009 11:42 AM | Report abuse

Rogers has a better roll out ability then campbell, I think 17 stands up too straight to roll out the pocket like rogers, also our tackles could not hold up 1-1 on the ends to make a roll work.

Posted by: alex35332 | November 2, 2009 11:43 AM | Report abuse

Just leave that sht alone whatever it is you are taking. No one has worst O Line in the NFL than the Skins. Rogers look awful in the first half when they wasn't doing mass protect. It was only when he had time he looked better. People really need to stop with the foolish talk and just come out and say you don't like JC than some of this bs.

jm220, you're an idiot.

do you follow football? a.rodgers has been sacked 31 times, most in the nfl. 11 more times than j.campbell. in addition, he has the HIGHEST, highest qb rating in the entire league. m.kelly was blaming everything on the line and stating that you can't blame campbell. my point being, you have to look beyond the oline. a.rodgers has the worst o-line in the league, yet he sports the highest qb rating.

Posted by: mopp04 | November 2, 2009 11:44 AM | Report abuse

"I am really starting to wonder wtf vinny has on Dan."

Me and you both, bruh.

I think it's because Snyder won't EVER change. I think he knows that a guy like Vinny Cerrato are the only types that would work for him.

Snyder is in his what mid-late 40's?

Snyder is too stuck in his ways to change his business approach at this stage in his life. You're kidding yourselves if you think he can, more even if you think he will.
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In Snyder's mind it goes like this RE: His team and the fans:

Snyder: How I've made my living, I did it my way plain and simple, and I'd be damned if now all the sudden I'm going to start to listening to others on how to run a business -- my business.

Snyder (Looks into crowd of fans and asks): All the billionaires, would you please raise your hands?

Snyder: Yeah, didn't think so.

You bests believe that is EXACTLY Snyder's thought process. Dudes that think and carry it like that are extremely hard to change. At this point in his life it's damn near impossible. They're just too damn stubborn.

Posted by: RedDMV | November 2, 2009 11:44 AM | Report abuse

awesome... 3 fullbacks on the roster... 3 fullbacks... just awesome...

Posted by: jimmy_the_crickett | November 2, 2009 11:45 AM | Report abuse

Thank you JIMMY! there are still people out there any one of those guys would be a more appropriate choice given our circumstances.

Let me pose this question what happens if we have even one more injury on this line??

Posted by: BenchCampbell | November 2, 2009 11:46 AM | Report abuse

Now that's some damm fine reporting and analysis, J. Reid in your "After the Bye" piece.

Posted by: TheCork | November 2, 2009 11:33 AM

Dude, 18 months ago it would have been "reporting." Today it's a reheated frozen burrito.

Posted by: League-Source | November 2, 2009 11:49 AM | Report abuse

3 FB's= power run game right?

Posted by: alex35332 | November 2, 2009 11:50 AM | Report abuse

BS on poor Jason Camb. Aaron Rogers sacked more times with less of a running game makes plays all game long so give me a break with this he can't do it. JC has had plenty of time on plays and still missed receivers.

All I hear is excuses other teams don't make them we do.

He's learning a new system, Orton is learning a new system they are 7-1.

I heard no excuses out of Denver about Orton learning a new system.

All the excuses are Horse sh_t if you can play then you can play if you can't you can't.

Posted by: Flounder21 | November 2, 2009 11:33 AM | Report abuse

Good, draft another first round QB, that'll fix the problem we've had for the last 17 years!!! It's not that we make up excuses, it's that we have the perfect storm of failure. Despite what you believe Green Bay actually does have a running game. They are 16th and we are 26th. Most teams can overcome 1 or 2 deficiencies but no team can overcome them all. Can you find a team that meets all the same criteria we do?

1. No running game (26th).
2. No pass protection(26th)
3. New offense every year(saunders, gibbs, zorn).
4. QB in the wrong scheme(JC not a WCO QB).
5. Young WRs that haven't developed yet(DT11 and MK12).
6. Bad playcalling(that's why the bingo caller is doing it now).

The Broncos only have 1 of these issues. Orton had to learn a new offense. Green Bay only has 1 of these issues too. They have bad protection.

nobody has as many issues as this offense and is still successful.

The only thing this offense has going for it is Chris Cooley and he has a broken ankle. Start preparing for the draft. This seaosn was over before it ever started.

Posted by: PAskinsfan17 | November 2, 2009 11:51 AM | Report abuse

How can you not replace CHRIS SAMUELS with a LINEMAN!!

DISGUSTING!

Posted by: BenchCampbell | November 2, 2009 11:29 AM

That's what they did. They added a lineman to the practice squad. After he kicks ass this week, he'll be starting next week.

Posted by: League-Source | November 2, 2009 11:51 AM | Report abuse

With an uncapped year, it is amazing that we didn't try and trade as many players as possible to get draft picks... The "experts" are saying that this draft is going to have an unprecedented amount of Juniors coming out this year, to "juke" the Rookie Scale the following year. Especially players like Carlos Rogers that we will let go in the offseason for free... Although, he may be like Soups and become a Restricted FA since I believe he is still on his Rookie Scale.

CLEGG

Posted by: michael_b_clegg | November 2, 2009 11:33 AM | Report abuse

_________________

The uncapped year is next year, trading players accelerates their signing bonus to the current year. They don't currently have enough cap space to trade any large contracts.

Posted by: dfbovey | November 2, 2009 11:51 AM | Report abuse

Another freaking running back? are you kidding me Vinny? Wtf is wrong with taking a look at Pete Kendall, or Fabini, or Runyan, or Jonas Jennings, or two of those guys and cutting some of the trash we have on our current roster like D'Anthony Baptcan't block?

Posted by: zjfr2 | November 2, 2009 11:51 AM | Report abuse

4th, psp23, and Beantown, please tell me again why Philly wasn't going to compete for the division. DC, Brian Dawkins, O-line, Westbrook coming off worst season, blah, blah, blah.

Posted by: learnedhand1 | November 2, 2009 11:52 AM | Report abuse

Apropos JR's RI postings:

From ESPNU's Top 150:

120 Toney Hurd Jr. 81 Notre Dame CB 5'9" 179 Thurgood Marshall H.S. (TX)

Or as us dyslexics see it, Honey Turd Jr.

Posted by: FreakyGeeky | November 2, 2009 11:52 AM | Report abuse

Let me pose this question what happens if we have even one more injury on this line??

Posted by: BenchCampbell | November 2, 2009 11:46 AM

We'll sign the guy who was right behind Levi Jones in the line of busted up old guys out of the league. Or we'll activate some Eddie Williams guy from the practice squad.

What was your guess? We'll cancel the rest of the season?

Posted by: League-Source | November 2, 2009 11:53 AM | Report abuse

I imagine he's just going to be in the backfield only as a blocker...

Posted by: charley42 | November 2, 2009 11:53 AM | Report abuse

look at aaron rodgers and what he's done this year with arguably the worst o-line in the league.... man if we could've moved up one more spot to snag him. things could be a lot diff't around here..

Posted by: mopp04 | November 2, 2009

Another mumbling fool joins the fray. Dude this was the oldest most infirm line in football. There was not depth. It is now the worst line in football with only 2 guys on it who currently play at an NFL level and that is Dockery and Rabach.

The rest should not even be in the league. Instead of doing the lame brained Snidely thing and moving up to get Rogers maybe we could have had a decent offensive tackle like the Raven's Michael Oher? Its not like their quarterback is having that great a year. The fans are as stupid as the owner, doh, he is very representative of the idiots out there ...

Posted by: periculum | November 2, 2009 11:54 AM | Report abuse

CHRIS COOLEY EXPERIENCE ON THE DAY OF THE SURGERY....... THIS IS GOOD COVERAGE...

And Zorn greeted the Cooley's at the hospital at 4 am...... Zorn may be in above his head, but the guy is a class act. I wish he could Coach.

http://chriscooley47.blogspot.com/2009/10/tc-surgery-day.html

CLEGG

Posted by: michael_b_clegg | November 2, 2009 11:56 AM | Report abuse

The uncapped year is next year, trading players accelerates their signing bonus to the current year. They don't currently have enough cap space to trade any large contracts.

Posted by: dfbovey | November 2, 2009 11:51 AM

Well, there's also the fact that the trade deadline has passed, so talks of trade are mute points now, right?

Posted by: League-Source | November 2, 2009 11:56 AM | Report abuse

i think we'll be running the full house or maryland i on sunday. double te's and sellers, williams and portis in the backfield.

Posted by: brian58 | November 2, 2009 11:56 AM | Report abuse

Well, there's also the fact that the trade deadline has passed, so talks of trade are mute points now, right?

Posted by: League-Source | November 2, 2009 11:56 AM | Report abuse

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He said he was surprised moves weren't made, so I assume he meant prior to the deadline.

Posted by: dfbovey | November 2, 2009 11:58 AM | Report abuse

"With an uncapped year, it is amazing that we didn't try and trade as many players as possible to get draft picks... The "experts" are saying that this draft is going to have an unprecedented amount of Juniors coming out this year, to "juke" the Rookie Scale the following year. Especially players like Carlos Rogers that we will let go in the offseason for free... Although, he may be like Soups and become a Restricted FA since I believe he is still on his Rookie Scale."


One problem owners don't want to have to lock in high dollar contracts, so you would think the market to trade out of picks (meaning teams wanting to off load picks) would be better than those wanting to trade.

Posted by: Veretax | November 2, 2009 11:59 AM | Report abuse

"What we did was get the best player available and add him to our active roster. I'm confident that I will find a good way for the coaches to use this player."

Wow.

Anuther "Best Player Availiable".

So far, Vinny's "BPA" philosophy has created an offensive offense and a defendable defense, both of which sit at the bottom of the NFC East.

Posted by: MistaMoe | November 2, 2009 12:00 PM | Report abuse

Skins are beating ATL... perfect storm / trap game... Skins are coming off bye week, ATL coming off humongo division game against Saints, and a Monday nighter to boot... total letdown for Falcons... Skins steal one 17-16... book it...

Posted by: NateinthePDX | November 2, 2009 12:01 PM | Report abuse

"Despite what you believe Green Bay actually does have a running game. They are 16th and we are 26th." - PASkins

Not trying to pick on you here, PASkins, but you're making it too easy for me today.

Portis - 490 yards on 120 carries with one TD.

Grant - 525 yards on 128 carries with 3 TDs.

'Skins 2nd leading rusher is Jason Campbell with 103 yards.

Packers 2nd leading rusher is Aaron Rodgers with 188 yards.

Not too much difference there, is it?

This is why "rankings" mean diddly-poo. It's always underlining to the so-called "rankings" especially at this point in the season.

If you're going to quote stats at least go into depth, and not just pull a "ranking".

Stat Rankings = Power Rankings

Posted by: RedDMV | November 2, 2009 12:02 PM | Report abuse

Not that I think this is a good idea, but I am guessing one of the FBs can also line up as a TE to replace the OTHER GUY they lost last weekend. Unless they taught Fred Davis to block in a week.

Posted by: mrlowery1 | November 2, 2009 12:03 PM | Report abuse

Anyone who doesn't know that a fullback is the answer to the skins' offensive problems just doesn't know anything about football.

Posted by: Original_etrod | November 2, 2009 12:04 PM | Report abuse

"I'm confident that I will find a good way for the coaches to use this player."


Shouldn't the comment from Vinny be, "I'm sure I've satisfied the coaches' request for the type of player they wanted to fit the scheme they're are implementing."?

Posted by: MistaMoe | November 2, 2009 12:05 PM | Report abuse

LearnedHand - Too early....There's always a tale of two seasons.....

Posted by: 4thFloor | November 2, 2009 12:06 PM | Report abuse

etrod - 99% of the time, Peyton throws TDs. Luckily I played you during the 1% week....

Posted by: 4thFloor | November 2, 2009 12:07 PM | Report abuse

And I don't even f with stats like that.

But: A stat >>> A Ranking

Posted by: RedDMV | November 2, 2009 12:07 PM | Report abuse

He's learning a new system, Orton is learning a new system they are 7-1.

I heard no excuses out of Denver about Orton learning a new system.

Posted by: Flounder21 | November 2, 2009 11:33 AM

I'll be interested to see how Orton will adjust to how teams will play him. Casserly basically called the Ravens game plan against him in the pre-game show. Force Orton to beat you deep because he's not an accurate passer over 25 yards. The one thing the Bronocs have on offense is Marshall; he can help bail out a QB with his abilities. Their defense playing lights out we'll see if that continues.

Posted by: TWISI | November 2, 2009 12:09 PM | Report abuse

OK, since its obvious we won't win another game this year, time to start thinking draft. How rich and deep will the upcoming draft be in OL/DL?

Posted by: clark202 | November 2, 2009 12:10 PM | Report abuse

Holy crap..... Cooley is hilarious... You guys have to go to his Blog and check out the link to his phone call with EITM...

CLEGG

Posted by: michael_b_clegg | November 2, 2009 12:10 PM | Report abuse

Not trying to pick on you here, PASkins, but you're making it too easy for me today.

Portis - 490 yards on 120 carries with one TD.

Grant - 525 yards on 128 carries with 3 TDs.

'Skins 2nd leading rusher is Jason Campbell with 103 yards.

Packers 2nd leading rusher is Aaron Rodgers with 188 yards.

Not too much difference there, is it?

This is why "rankings" mean diddly-poo. It's always underlining to the so-called "rankings" especially at this point in the season.

If you're going to quote stats at least go into depth, and not just pull a "ranking".

Stat Rankings = Power Rankings

Posted by: RedDMV | November 2, 2009 12:02 PM | Report abuse

Not trying to pick on you but most of our yards came off of 3 carries. Other than that we've done absolutely nothing with the run game and we've faced the worst rushing defenses in the league. Those numbers are going to look a whole lot worse at the end of the season.

Posted by: PAskinsfan17 | November 2, 2009 12:10 PM | Report abuse

What the F are we going to do with another Fullback!!??

Posted by: BenchCampbell


They're going to give Mike Sellers some reps at right tackle.

Posted by: RedDMV | November 2, 2009 12:11 PM | Report abuse

haha...yeah but I'm sure Michael Turner has a 42 point game in him so watch out!

Posted by: Original_etrod | November 2, 2009 12:11 PM | Report abuse

"And Zorn greeted the Cooley's at the hospital at 4 am...... Zorn may be in above his head, but the guy is a class act. I wish he could Coach."

Zorn might be a good coach, we'd never know it considering the siuation he's in.

And little things like showing up to a hospital when a guy is coming out of surgery is what good coaching is.

I increasingly believe Zorn will be around longer than we hacks think.

Posted by: MistaMoe | November 2, 2009 12:11 PM | Report abuse

PASkins, still not trying to pick on you, but Ryan ran for 148 yards week 7 against the Browns.

You can make the same argument against Portis against Grant as well.

Posted by: RedDMV | November 2, 2009 12:14 PM | Report abuse

OK, since its obvious we won't win another game this year, time to start thinking draft. How rich and deep will the upcoming draft be in OL/DL?

Posted by: clark202 | November 2, 2009 12:10 PM | Report abuse

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There's a few good offensive tackles in the draft. I'm hoping for Russell Okung.

Not sure why you're curious about defensive lineman though. Skins addressed that with a ton of resources this year. Not really an area of need at this point.

Posted by: dfbovey | November 2, 2009 12:15 PM | Report abuse

"How rich and deep will the upcoming draft be in OL/DL?"

This will be a quarterback draft, my friend.

Had M Sanchez and M Stafford remained in college, it would be rich and deep with choices.

The last draft was rich and deep with linemen.

And we didn't draft one.

Which is why Campbell's jersey is always rich and deep with mud stains.

Posted by: MistaMoe | November 2, 2009 12:17 PM | Report abuse

The NFL can deny Rush Limbaugh an opportunity to be a part of a group hoping to buy an NFL team. Can the NFL look at the Deadskins situation and buy Danny Snyder out? Let the league run the team for a few years. Can't be any worse... or can it?

Posted by: garyolney | November 2, 2009 12:17 PM | Report abuse

Is this the team trying to send a message to Sellers or is it the team trying to fill the void at tight end by using a fullback as a tight end?

Posted by: RedSkinHead | November 2, 2009 12:18 PM | Report abuse

If Campbell had a better O-line he'd only use the extra time to hold ball, ponder his options, pat it a couple times, and throw it underneath to the TE.

Posted by: learnedhand1 | November 2, 2009 12:20 PM | Report abuse

One problem owners don't want to have to lock in high dollar contracts, so you would think the market to trade out of picks (meaning teams wanting to off load picks) would be better than those wanting to trade.

Posted by: Veretax | November 2, 2009 11:59 AM | Report abuse


TRUE,

But there are teams that could solidfy their places to contend.... ie Baltimore D needs secondary help big time.... ( as an example of a trade partner )

CLEGG

Posted by: michael_b_clegg | November 2, 2009 12:21 PM | Report abuse

From Peter King today:

Four other tidbits from Sunday's games:

1. How can a player have a more redemptive day than Ted Ginn Jr.? Demoted from the starting lineup and ripped by old-time Dolphins after dropping two easy passes in Week 7, Ginn came back and won a game Miami had to have. Only once in history had a player returned two kickoffs for touchdowns in a quarter; Ginn did it in seven minutes against the Jets.

"I never had such a terrible game in my life,'' Ginn told me afterward, alluding to his dropped passes in Miami's 46-34 loss to New Orleans in Week 7. "I fought through it all -- the naysayers, the media, the critics. Today was the kind of day you dream about growing up.''

What I liked about Ginn was how he didn't try to shift the blame for what were his mistakes and his alone. "We're in a high-performance league, and if you don't perform, things happen.'' Like benchings. But not for long. Not if you return kicks 100 and 101 yards for scores.

Read more: http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2009/writers/peter_king/11/01/mmqb.week.8/1.html#ixzz0VisHAILD

Posted by: 4thFloor | November 2, 2009 12:21 PM | Report abuse

Is this the team trying to send a message to Sellers or is it the team trying to fill the void at tight end by using a fullback as a tight end?

Posted by: RedSkinHead | November 2, 2009 12:18 PM | Report abuse

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Maybe they are planning on using more max protection blocking schemes going forward.

Posted by: dfbovey | November 2, 2009 12:21 PM | Report abuse

4th, makes you wonder what would happen if DT were allowed to return kicks...

Posted by: BeantownGreg1 | November 2, 2009 12:24 PM | Report abuse

I would assume that Sellars would move into more of a TE position with this guy coming on, still makes no sense...is Jon Runyan that bad?

Posted by: mhartz1 | November 2, 2009 12:24 PM | Report abuse


Is this the team trying to send a message to Sellers or is it the team trying to fill the void at tight end by using a fullback as a tight end?

Posted by: RedSkinHead | November 2, 2009 12:18 PM | Report abuse

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Maybe they are planning on using more max protection blocking schemes going forward.

Posted by: dfbovey | November 2, 2009 12:21 PM | Report abuse

Maybe they have pictures of Practice Squad guys on the wall and they're throwing darts at them to decide who to activate.

Posted by: Original_etrod | November 2, 2009 12:24 PM | Report abuse

Vinny has a point to prove here he drafted the guy so of course he will be signed

Posted by: BenchCampbell | November 2, 2009 12:25 PM | Report abuse

Gary,

I think they'd have to show a legitimate business or contractual reason.

If Redskins fans show a big enough economic hole in the organization's budget, that could happen.

I've floated the idea of economic boycotts (of both FedEx & the NFL, among other Redskins' backers) to address our needs. I'd be willing to do it, but wonder if the fanbase could make a go of it.

If you accompany the boycott (sp?) with letters/communications to the Skins & NFL, at least they would be fully aware of how we affect their pockets.

Oh & on the previous post - I call BS. Sure, he was rushed and did the best he could with the protection provided - but even on plays where he has adequate time Soup still ends up with that 1 second delay on his delivers - he even telegraphs the pass, drawing the secondary to the target. All the time in the world won't fix that hitch step. It's part of his character. Move on.

Posted by: DikShuttle | November 2, 2009 12:26 PM | Report abuse

Football Rule Number 1 - Run the football *blocking is key but more importantly is the play-action.

Football Rule Number 2 - Pass the football. *again, blocking is pretty f-ing important.

Football Rule Number 3 - Catch the punt or let the punt go. Do not muff the punt.

Red, you really think that the skin's offensive is superior to that of the Packers?


Posted by: AllThatSkins | November 2, 2009 12:26 PM | Report abuse

From the Times:

The Redskins are back from a five-day break and have added fullback Eddie Williams from the practice squad to take the roster spot vacated by LT Chris Samuels going on injured reserve.

Practice is at 1 p.m. but players have been at Redskin Park for a few hours already today.

Williams' addition is to help on special teams. Linebacker H.B. Blades and cornerback Byron Westbrook (knee injuries) aren't expected to play Sunday at Atlanta.

Williams might also be an option as a second or third tight end in blocking situations.

A couple of story lines to watch this week:

* DeAngelo Hall faces his former team. Hall still lives in the Atlanta area and is a former first-round pick of the Falcons. He was there for the highs (making the NFC title game as a rookie in 2004) and the lows (the end of the Jim Mora Era and the entire Bobby Petrino Error).

* Injuries. Chris Cooley is out for at least a month and the special teams have been depleted. Fred Davis supposedly spent the off week working out at Redskin Park on routes and whatnot so this is his first huge opportunity to be a part of the passing game.

* Pass protection. It was a mess against Philadelphia and the coaches have had a week to re-assess which direction to go in. Jim Zorn ruled out Levi Jones taking over at LT for Stephon Heyer but it should be considered.

* The vibe. The Redskins are 2-5 -- 2 1/2 games out of THIRD place in the NFC East. Philadelphia (5-2), Dallas (5-2) and the Giants (5-3) are pulling away. Will players still have the want-to even though eight games remain?

Posted by: BeantownGreg1 | November 2, 2009 12:27 PM | Report abuse

But there are teams that could solidfy their places to contend.... ie Baltimore D needs secondary help big time.... ( as an example of a trade partner )

CLEGG

Posted by: michael_b_clegg | November 2, 2009 12:21 PM

CLEGG,

When is this trade supposed to happen? The trade deadline passed a few weeks ago.

Posted by: League-Source | November 2, 2009 12:28 PM | Report abuse

For the draft the Redskins need OL and LBs, and a middle round RB with speed. WE have to live with the WRS and QB that we have untill we have a good one.

As for JC and A Rodgers, A rodgers had the chance to sit and learn is another key variable. JC sat behind mark Brunell. His traiining was to not throw interceptions. My support of JC has waned, but I also have to point out our WRs. Note how Green Bays WRS,Driver and Jennings

Posted by: oknow1 | November 2, 2009 12:31 PM | Report abuse

* Injuries. Chris Cooley is out for at least a month and the special teams have been depleted. Fred Davis supposedly spent the off week working out at Redskin Park on routes and whatnot so this is his first huge opportunity to be a part of the passing game.

* The vibe. The Redskins are 2-5 -- 2 1/2 games out of THIRD place in the NFC East. Philadelphia (5-2), Dallas (5-2) and the Giants (5-3) are pulling away. Will players still have the want-to even though eight games remain?

Posted by: BeantownGreg1 | November 2, 2009 12:27 PM

Davis should have been working out of the blocking sled so he could be part of the blocking game this week.

Eight games remain? Are we gonna forfeit one? Sound like the players don't have "the want-to."

Posted by: League-Source | November 2, 2009 12:32 PM | Report abuse

More From Pete King

In training camp, Bruce Smith and Dana Stubblefield took it upon themselves to school the rook and make his life miserable on and off the field. He took the taunts and the hazing through mini-camps, but determined he wouldn't take it once the real practices started. It took just one practice for Samuels to fight back, taking Stubblefield on a wide rush and, when Stubblefield popped him in the forehead, Samuels cold-cocked him with a roundhouse right to the neck, just below the helmet. He knew as the cornerstone of the offensive line, he had to be a fighter and defend not only his turf but his peers'. He became one of the go-to guys on the team.

When Sean Taylor died senselessly, Samuels vacillated between outrage, fury and leadership -- knowing he had to be there for the grieving, mostly younger guys in his locker room, which he was.

"I've been here six seasons,'' Chris Cooley told me, "and three of those six seasons we've had some significant turmoil. But I never saw guys quit or try less, and part of that is because of Chris. He set such a great example with his work and his play. Part of being a leader is just showing up every day and working hard, and that's all he's ever done.


Posted by: 4thFloor | November 2, 2009 12:32 PM | Report abuse

bean

"4th, makes you wonder what would happen if DT were allowed to return kicks..."


I agree.

Even as good as Percy Harvin is at returning, the Vikes subbed in another kid yesterday--Johnson--to return kicks.

These kids coming out of college must be put to work right away, and for wideouts, returning punts/kicks is a great place to start.

Posted by: MistaMoe | November 2, 2009 12:34 PM | Report abuse

I think its clear that the majority of the problems on offense this season have been due to the full back position, so thanks to today's signing of Eddie Williams I think we can all expect a 3 to 4 game winning streak.

Posted by: james808d | November 2, 2009 12:34 PM | Report abuse

Maybe they should have signed the offensive tackle to the active roster. I was reading a little bit about him and it seems he has served as a reserve tight end for some teams. Nothing like a 300 lb tight end to give the running game a spark...

Posted by: RedSkinHead | November 2, 2009 12:35 PM | Report abuse

Coninuing to use Randel El on returns is nothing short of criminal!

Posted by: BenchCampbell | November 2, 2009 12:37 PM | Report abuse

More From Pete King

Posted by: 4thFloor | November 2, 2009 12:32 PM |

If Peter King gets stuff like this, why can't the Washington Post? I mean, let's send Tracee Hamilton out to the Park to interview some players.

Posted by: League-Source | November 2, 2009 12:38 PM | Report abuse

If Campbell had a better O-line he'd only use the extra time to hold ball, ponder his options, pat it a couple times, and throw it underneath to the TE.

Posted by: learnedhand1 | November 2, 2009 12:20 PM


Pretty accurate, when he does have time...both Jaws and Gruden commented on that when he did have time on MNF. He is too worried about the hit.

I wonder why Dockery or Rabach hasnt grabbed MK12 and DT11 and beat the crap out of them for running their mouths...we all know that it is a problem, but throwing your teammates under the bus, bothers me, you dont see the OL saying why cant MK12 jump properly and catch a ball?

I personally think the problem with the OL is not necessarily that they arent any good, I think it has more to do with them not being tough enough, playing to soft...at some point, you would think someone would point a finger at Bugel for that??

Posted by: mhartz1 | November 2, 2009 12:39 PM | Report abuse

League,

But there are teams that could solidfy their places to contend.... ie Baltimore D needs secondary help big time.... ( as an example of a trade partner )

CLEGG

Posted by: michael_b_clegg | November 2, 2009 12:21 PM

CLEGG,

When is this trade supposed to happen? The trade deadline passed a few weeks ago.

Posted by: League-Source | November 2, 2009 12:28 PM | Report abuse

THOSE COMMENTS WERE MADE FROM A PREVIOUS POST....... The discussion was we can't believe that there were not more trade discussions with some of our players... try and solidify more picks in what should be the deepest draft in many years. Juniors will be jumping that otherwise wouldn't due to the uncapped year, and a likely "rookie scale" coming behind the uncapped year.

CLEGG

Posted by: michael_b_clegg | November 2, 2009 12:39 PM | Report abuse

PASkins, still not trying to pick on you, but Ryan ran for 148 yards week 7 against the Browns.

You can make the same argument against Portis against Grant as well.

Posted by: RedDMV | November 2, 2009 12:14 PM | Report abuse

Not really. They are far more effective at running than us and they've faced tougher competition. It isn't even close. Look at what happens when you adjust the number for opponent strength and effectiveness.

http://www.footballoutsiders.com/stats/ol

They are ranked 8th in run blocking. We are 19th. So how is it that you can still try to compare our running game to theirs? They faced 3 top ten rushing defenses we've faced none. In fact we've faced 5 bottom 10 rushing defenses. We have a terrible rushing game and theirs is somewhat respectable. If ours was any good at all we'd have a lot more yards than they do.

Posted by: PAskinsfan17 | November 2, 2009 12:41 PM | Report abuse

4th, makes you wonder what would happen if DT were allowed to return kicks...

Posted by: BeantownGreg1 | November 2, 2009 12:24 PM

True...But I was trying to point out how Ginn wasn't trying to 'Shift Blame'.....

Posted by: 4thFloor | November 2, 2009 12:41 PM | Report abuse

The Redskins need to trade down from their presumably high draft pick this coming spring in order to pick up more picks, and draft damn near nothing but guards, tackles and a center. They should ignore QB this year, with or without Campbell (presumably without).

There isn't any point in drafting a QB without a line worth a damn, and giving your new lineman at least a year to break in will help out the QB you need to draft in 2011. Until then, they should suck it up, accept the fact that they won't be any good next year either, and have Collins, Brennan...or whoever man the QB position while they develop new guys next year along the line.

Of course, that is a sane, reasonable approach. With VC and Snyder, expect a lot of pointing fingers, and a "we are "X" amount of players away" approach where we go QB first round, draft one or two linemen out of pressure, and spend a gazillion dollars on a 30 year old just passing his prime tackle.

Posted by: shaunsherman12 | November 2, 2009 12:44 PM | Report abuse

THOSE COMMENTS WERE MADE FROM A PREVIOUS POST....... The discussion was we can't believe that there were not more trade discussions with some of our players... try and solidify more picks in what should be the deepest draft in many years. Juniors will be jumping that otherwise wouldn't due to the uncapped year, and a likely "rookie scale" coming behind the uncapped year.

CLEGG

Posted by: michael_b_clegg | November 2, 2009 12:39 PM | Report abuse

_________________

I made the point earlier, that any trades the team made this year would accelerate a player's remaining signing bonus in full to this year. And that is probably a big reason why the team never made any serious efforts in trading before the deadline. They don't have the cap space to do things like that. Any trades would have to come next offseason.

Posted by: dfbovey | November 2, 2009 12:44 PM | Report abuse

I would assume that Sellars would move into more of a TE position with this guy coming on, still makes no sense...is Jon Runyan that bad?

Posted by: mhartz1 | November 2, 2009 12:24 PM

Yes. The dude was cleared to run at the close of training camp. Others have looked at him and have not signed him. If he's able to play, his preference is to play for the Eagles who would rather play Winston Justice than Runyan. Why are fans so hungry for broke down guys?

Here's an update on the o-line's "savior" in waiting.


Posted by: learnedhand1 | November 2, 2009 12:45 PM | Report abuse

gotcha....still think that DT should return some kicks....

If they come out of the break having made no changes, what does that say about the coach....

Posted by: BeantownGreg1 | November 2, 2009 12:45 PM | Report abuse

THOSE COMMENTS WERE MADE FROM A PREVIOUS POST....... The discussion was we can't believe that there were not more trade discussions with some of our players... try and solidify more picks in what should be the deepest draft in many years. Juniors will be jumping that otherwise wouldn't due to the uncapped year, and a likely "rookie scale" coming behind the uncapped year.

CLEGG

Posted by: michael_b_clegg | November 2, 2009 12:39 PM

Thanks for clarifying.

There are very few trades in the NFL compared to other sports. And given your point about the value of picks this year, you can see why teams would be reluctant to give them up for anyone on our team.

Posted by: League-Source | November 2, 2009 12:48 PM | Report abuse

We put our Sundays in the hands of bug-eyed Vinny and a fantasy football owner. Ain't worth it. F'em.

Posted by: BrooklynSkins | November 2, 2009 12:49 PM | Report abuse

The Redskins need to trade down from their presumably high draft pick this coming spring in order to pick up more picks, and draft damn near nothing but guards, tackles and a center. They should ignore QB this year, with or without Campbell (presumably without).

There isn't any point in drafting a QB without a line worth a damn, and giving your new lineman at least a year to break in will help out the QB you need to draft in 2011. Until then, they should suck it up, accept the fact that they won't be any good next year either, and have Collins, Brennan...or whoever man the QB position while they develop new guys next year along the line.

Of course, that is a sane, reasonable approach. With VC and Snyder, expect a lot of pointing fingers, and a "we are "X" amount of players away" approach where we go QB first round, draft one or two linemen out of pressure, and spend a gazillion dollars on a 30 year old just passing his prime tackle.

Posted by: shaunsherman12 | November 2, 2009 12:44 PM | Report abuse


I think we need to keep that high first rounder if Okung is still available otherwise trade down. I think he's the only elite left tackle. Elite left tackles come in the early first round and elite right tackles come in the second. I'd rather has 2 elite tackles than 3 mediocre ones. We need quality not just quantity. We need the best left tackle and the best right tackle.

Posted by: PAskinsfan17 | November 2, 2009 12:51 PM | Report abuse

Ginn was also called out yesterday. I don't know if anyone mentioned that. He was dropped from the starting linuep. I would assume he's coming up on a contract year either next or the year after.

He was drafted by another staff as well.

Posted by: DikShuttle | November 2, 2009 12:52 PM | Report abuse

"Redskins sign Eddie Williams to active roster."

Whither Edwin Williams the Terp center whose mug dominated the online sports edition for a few weeks last spring?

We all want the team to draft a left tackle.

Center is next on list--let Williams get an extended look.

Posted by: MistaMoe | November 2, 2009 12:53 PM | Report abuse

Wow the Colts have won 16 straight regular season games....must be nice to have the warm fuzzy feeling of a winning football team.

Posted by: FedorEm | November 2, 2009 12:59 PM | Report abuse

After thinking this through for a minute, a better comment would be:
"I'm assuming that Williams is being added to give the Teams a complementary player to HB Blades, who looks to be out at least a couple of weeks after knee surgery. Westbrook had a similar bit of surgery, so don't be surprised to see Kevin Barnes crack the active roster in his absence."

Posted by: daggar | November 2, 2009 1:00 PM | Report abuse

What's that, Fedor?

Posted by: DikShuttle | November 2, 2009 1:00 PM | Report abuse

Question: Did I read the name correctly on the back of one of jerseys of a starting Cardinals linemen named Bridges? Is that Jeremy Bridges who was in Skins' camp and played with the starters in the first preseason game?

Posted by: dcsween | November 2, 2009 1:01 PM | Report abuse

What's that, Fedor?

Posted by: DikShuttle | November 2, 2009 1:00 PM | Report abuse

The warm fuzzy feeling I used to get being excited about your football team. Not the anxiety I feel every sunday or the extreme sadness I feel when the Boys and Eagles put up 30-40 a week while we struggle to get to 17.

Posted by: FedorEm | November 2, 2009 1:03 PM | Report abuse

"If ours was any good at all we'd have a lot more yards than they do."

Posted by: PAskinsfan17


Why is this? Because according to some stat rankings and a high tech flow chart says they're supposed to?

I've never brought the "we're supposed to have.... because they're.... and gave/didn't allow..." argument.
You can only play who's in front of you. And who's to say that that top ranked team wouldn't have had an off day and gave up 'X' amount of yards? Or that bottom "ranked" team wouldn't have found their balls and shut dudes down?

I mean last year back in week 5, did you see the Redskins taking L's to the Bengals and 9ers?

Thing is that you just never know. Who's in front of you is what only matters. And based on who's been in front of the 'Skins and Packers, they've performed damn evenly running the ball.

Posted by: RedDMV | November 2, 2009 1:05 PM | Report abuse

I think we need to keep that high first rounder if Okung is still available otherwise trade down. I think he's the only elite left tackle. Elite left tackles come in the early first round and elite right tackles come in the second. I'd rather has 2 elite tackles than 3 mediocre ones. We need quality not just quantity. We need the best left tackle and the best right tackle.

Posted by: PAskinsfan17 | November 2, 2009 12:51 PM | Report abuse
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If a stud is there for the LT position, I can understand this approach. I'm of the mind, however that the Redskins will be drafting somewhere between 5 and 10, since there are several other horrible teams that may end up with even worse records than our own. If we can't get the top tier guys (possible given how high they go in drafts), I'd be willing to trade down for two lower first rounders and at least get a solid RT and some top notch G's, which can be had in the first and seconds.

Like you said though, if the top one or 2 LT is on the board, it makes sense to grab him. With our usual dearth of picks however, we may still have big holes going into 2010.

Posted by: shaunsherman12 | November 2, 2009 1:07 PM | Report abuse

Hmmm./. I seem to be able to remember SOMETHING like that in a deep dark recessed corner of my mind....

...smells like mothballs.

...how do they get those little legs apart?

Posted by: DikShuttle | November 2, 2009 1:10 PM | Report abuse

Question: Did I read the name correctly on the back of one of jerseys of a starting Cardinals linemen named Bridges? Is that Jeremy Bridges who was in Skins' camp and played with the starters in the first preseason game?

Posted by: dcsween

Answer: Yes, its THAT Jeremy Bridges!

Posted by: dcwun | November 2, 2009 1:10 PM | Report abuse

Last bit from Pete King:

d. Aaron Rodgers takes too many sacks.

(Editor's note - So Does Campbell, but Rodgers still looks better despite that fact)

Posted by: 4thFloor | November 2, 2009 1:12 PM | Report abuse

I predict you will the Skins line up on obvious passing plays with Portis and Eddie Williams to help both tackles blocking.

Sellers is just not that great of a blocker and this kid Williams impressed in the pre-season.

I'll repeat, I thought the Skins made some progressive with offensive formations and play calling during the Philly game. We had some unfortunate turnovers that gave the Eagles very strong field position.

Posted by: isnadd | November 2, 2009 1:12 PM | Report abuse

This says that Okung is a solid pass blocker, not so much for pulling and trapping (which apparently they don't do so much at his school out there).

http://www.newerascouting.com/10/russell-okung-scouting-report/

Posted by: dcsween | November 2, 2009 1:13 PM | Report abuse

Like you said though, if the top one or 2 LT is on the board, it makes sense to grab him. With our usual dearth of picks however, we may still have big holes going into 2010.

Posted by: shaunsherman12 | November 2, 2009 1:07 PM | Report abuse

O yeah, I'm counting on at least 2 drafts to fix this offense. I was thinking 2 tackles and a center this year. We then move BMW to right guard. That gives us a good line that's all under 30. Then next year we get a good young RB and a good young QB. Then we use the rest of the picks during those 2 years to fill in special teams, get guards and other oline depth, and try to find a replacement for London Fletcher. I think the defense will be fine.

Fletcher is the only one I don't think we have a real replacement for.

Daniels->Jarmon
Griffen->Golston
Smoot->Tryon
Rogers->Barnes
Carter->Orakpo

I think if we aren't stupid we can make a run in 2013.

Posted by: PAskinsfan17 | November 2, 2009 1:14 PM | Report abuse

I predict you will the Skins, as well!

Posted by: DikShuttle | November 2, 2009 1:16 PM | Report abuse

Reason #1 Aaron Rodgers has looked better than Campbell despite taking more sacks and possibly playing behind a worse offensive line -- Pocket presence.

Campbell has none.

Flacco, currently in his second year, has more pocket presence than Jason Campbell. Dude was ducking and dodging all day yesterday.

Posted by: RedDMV | November 2, 2009 1:18 PM | Report abuse

QB vs Passer, RedD?

That's what I'm thinkin'...

Posted by: DikShuttle | November 2, 2009 1:19 PM | Report abuse

The offensive line is garbage, but Jason Campbell is never going to go to a super bowl. Dude stinks.

Posted by: BMACattack | November 2, 2009 1:22 PM | Report abuse

DS, or Pitcher vs. Thrower

I'm honestly trying to name a few things Campbell does well, and the only thing I can think of is his ability to draw pity from parts of the media and 'Skins fan base.

Posted by: RedDMV | November 2, 2009 1:27 PM | Report abuse

i think the aaron rodgers comparison is legitimate. you can't blame the o line for campbell being a bad quarterback. and those that say a.rodgers isn't a good qb need to look at the stats. he has the highest qb rating in the league

Posted by: mopp04 | November 2, 2009 1:30 PM | Report abuse

beeps

Posted by: BeantownGreg1 | November 2, 2009 1:39 PM | Report abuse

"This says that Okung is a solid pass blocker, not so much for pulling and trapping (which apparently they don't do so much at his school out there)."


Let me get this straight.

Folks are advocating the redskins draft a player they haven't seen play?

You have to be kidding me.

Okung is an elite power run blocker and exceptional pass blocker.

I've seen three Oklahoma State games where he's dominated whatever defensive end/tackle lined up over him.

He's Michael Oher with Phil Loadholdt's girth. He'd make a great starting right tackle in the NFL.

Dez Bryant is another NFL player on the Cowboys team along with Okung.

Catch some of these college guys before demanding bloggas agree they be drafted.

Please.

Posted by: MistaMoe | November 2, 2009 1:39 PM | Report abuse

i think the aaron rodgers comparison is legitimate. you can't blame the o line for campbell being a bad quarterback. and those that say a.rodgers isn't a good qb need to look at the stats. he has the highest qb rating in the league

Posted by: mopp04 | November 2, 2009 1:30 PM

Don't look at the stats when you're making a point for JC, but look at the stats when you're making a point for Rogers. Can we get some consistency here. Rogers is a better QB than JC at least when we're discussing what a WC QB should be. However, Rogers does hold onto the ball way too long which is strange to me because I thought one of his strengths was reading defenses.

Posted by: TWISI | November 2, 2009 1:40 PM | Report abuse

"I'll be interested to see how Orton will adjust to how teams will play him. Casserly basically called the Ravens game plan against him in the pre-game show. Force Orton to beat you deep because he's not an accurate passer over 25 yards. The one thing the Bronocs have on offense is Marshall; he can help bail out a QB with his abilities. Their defense playing lights out we'll see if that continues.
Posted by: TWISI"

Good point. I'm not much of a predictor but I saw that Baltimore victory coming from a mile away. Here's thinking Orton will have to cope with far more aggressive defensive schemes for the remainder of the season.

Posted by: Samson151 | November 2, 2009 1:51 PM | Report abuse

WTF... oh right, another Fullback will solve all our problems!!!

Posted by: job22 | November 2, 2009 1:54 PM | Report abuse

Campbell isn't very good. The O line stinks. The RB is all done. The WR's don't get open, at least not with any consistency. The play calling has been erratic.

On offense, pointing out any one thing as the problem would be part of the problem with this front office.

Posted by: shaunsherman12 | November 2, 2009 1:54 PM | Report abuse

Don't look at the stats when you're making a point for JC, but look at the stats when you're making a point for Rogers. Can we get some consistency here. Rogers is a better QB than JC at least when we're discussing what a WC QB should be. However, Rogers does hold onto the ball way too long which is strange to me because I thought one of his strengths was reading defenses.

Posted by: TWISI | November 2, 2009 1:40 PM | Report abuse

See the thing is that we're all irrational JC lovers. We're actually aliens sent down from the JC mothership and are incapable of seeing how the offense is only bad because of JC. QB rating is only a valid comparison when comparing Rodgers to JC. It is not valid when comparing JC to Eli Manning, Kurt Warner, Marc Bulger, Matt Cassell, or Jay Cutler. Who cares that Aaron Rodgers has well seasoned veteren recievers, is in the right scheme, has a running game, and has a good interior offensive line and JC has none of those things? Rodgers is also better than every QB in the league except for Peyton Manning and Drew Brees but you can only compare him to JC. See, you can't make a case that Jay Cutler and Mark Sanchez suck because Rodgers is better than they are. It only works for JC comparisons. I don't know why you aren't getting this. All we have to do is draft Tim Tebow and we're superbowl bound. This is the Redskins. We're always 1 player away.

Posted by: PAskinsfan17 | November 2, 2009 1:58 PM | Report abuse

paskinsfan: "They are far more effective at running than us and they've faced tougher competition. It isn't even close. Look at what happens when you adjust the number for opponent strength and effectiveness. They are ranked 8th in run blocking. We are 19th. So how is it that you can still try to compare our running game to theirs? They faced 3 top ten rushing defenses we've faced none. In fact we've faced 5 bottom 10 rushing defenses. We have a terrible rushing game and theirs is somewhat respectable. If ours was any good at all we'd have a lot more yards than they do."

Well... sort of. There are some indicators in which the Skins seem to have the advantage. One of the most important being 'power success', defined as % of 3rd/4th down runs with two yards or less to go that achieved a first down or TD. Surprisingly, the Skins ranked 13th at 67%, with GB at 50%, or 29th. The Pack also ranks considerably below Washington in runs of 10+ yards (believe it or not), at 12% (26th) vs 19% (14th). Green Bay runners rank above the Redskins in percentage of runs that are stuffed, but by a measly 1%.

Where Green Bay really suffers is in pass protection. They're last in the NFL, while Washington is 26th. Of course, both teams have QBs who put pressure on their blocking by holding the ball.

Posted by: Samson151 | November 2, 2009 2:16 PM | Report abuse

Clint Oldenburg and Eddie Williams! Super Bowl -- here we come!!!

With these two acquisitions, Snyder and Cerrato have really turned things around!

Posted by: john24 | November 2, 2009 2:18 PM | Report abuse

I don't mind this move at all actually. Sellers has been less than consistent in his blocking and let's see if this kid can block. Since we play a lot of 21 personnel, it is in essence signing a OLineman if the kid can actually lead block. If that is the case, Sellers will continue to play on Spec Teams.

CLEGG

Posted by: michael_b_clegg | November 2, 2009 11:35 AM | Report abuse


I'm assuming that this guy is going to play Special Teams. If not what a waste of a roster spot. Its not like he's gonna get playing time ahead of Sellars. WTF

Posted by: scottmando | November 2, 2009 2:31 PM | Report abuse

Ok, here is my 2010 wish list:

1. Vinny Cerrato gets into it with Snyder and leaves the team forever after the season.

2. he is replaced with a REAL GM who Danny respects so much that he truly leaves him alone to do as he pleases for as long as he pleases.

3. I'm not even going to address Zorn until the REAL GM decides what he thinks is best. Pay attention Mr. Snyder.

4. We draft/acquire (I don't care how) at least 2-3 OL before season starts next year that we can count on to play quality minutes effectively on Gameday.

6. We get a decent QB from somewhere because in my opinion Jason campbell= Todd Boller and hopefully whoever we end up with will be more like Flacco. That offense turned around with good OL good running backs and good QB. Our receivers are better.
7. I hope Portis goes away. He's not a leader nor is he a winner. even when he's good he's not worth the negative effect his work ethic has on the team.

Posted by: scottmando | November 2, 2009 2:49 PM | Report abuse

I meant Kyle Boller

Posted by: scottmando | November 2, 2009 2:51 PM | Report abuse

Could it be that JC is still an all-pro caliber QB and that he just needs more time because he is a slooowwww learner? There are some bloggers and newsmen (and I used the term newsmen to encompass anyone who can BS him/herself into a WP job without any qualifications) who apparently lack a screw or two that believe that is the case. LOL. As they say in the south: God bless them!

Posted by: opita1 | November 2, 2009 3:10 PM | Report abuse

A fullback? Why am I not shocked at this move. This team needs to sign anything that resembles an offensive linemen. Hyer is just not good enough to play in the NFL.

When people compare QB`s..allow for the fact that Rookies, for the most part, have a lot of OJT..to absorb. The learning curve varies...but JC has had plenty of time to
develop the basic skills of a successful QB...he has failed. In part because he does not have either the correct mechanics, not can he read and process defenses rapidly. If he hasn`t yet developed the mechanics with Zorn giving him what amounts to one on one instruction for a year...than he never will. we can be just as positive that he will not improve upon his current level of reading defenses, making his reads, and use a quick release to get the ball away. I believe he is a leader in fumbles..another problem that remains.
HOWEVER..THE SKINS WILL NOT SCORE POINTS, NOR WILL THEY WIN UNTIL THE FIRST DEVELOP A SOLID O LINE. THEY ALSO NEED TO ADDRESS THE PROBLEMS AT CORNER BACK. HALL AND RODGERS COULDN`T EVEN PLAY A BACKUP ROLL ON SAY THE STEELERS, OR RAVENS.
THIS TEAM IS AT LEAST 3 YEARS AWAY FROM MAKING ANY NOISE IN THE NFC EAST.

Posted by: blazerguy234 | November 2, 2009 3:28 PM | Report abuse

new fullback signed and does not dress up to play just like mm zorn does not know talent either.

Posted by: rls1041 | November 3, 2009 9:43 AM | Report abuse

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