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Rogers praised for response to benching

Coach Jim Zorn praised cornerback Carlos Rogers for responding well in practice this week after having been benched early in the Week 10 victory over the Denver Broncos, but Zorn would not commit to Rogers starting opposite top cornerback DeAngelo Hall on Sunday against the Dallas Cowboys at the new Cowboys Stadium.

"He could" start, Zorn said. "But right now, we've got a little mix going and we like what we're seeing out there. I like what I'm seeing in Carlos and how he's responding to the situation.

"Sometimes it happens where you've just got to bide your time and wait for your next opportunity. I know with Carlos it'll come. And I think he knows it'll come as well."

Secondary coach Jerry Gray has been similarly impressed with Rogers's approach this week.

"He's responded great. He understands what he has to do and it's nothing new," Gray said. "The thing that he has to do is show who you really are, stop going through the little phase that he'd been going through of giving up double moves. Traditionally, he hasn't given up double moves. And what I saw on film is exactly what I've talked about, taking a little peek back at the quarterback, losing sight of the wide receiver. When you do that, any corner can get beat and you can look at all of the top guys.

"To me, I expect for Carlos to bounce back, be the physical guy that he is, and go out there and cover wide receivers. Last year, when we lost Shawn Springs, we put him on T.O. [Terrell Owens], and he knocked three or four balls down during that game. He's capable of doing that. It's just going through your progression, keep your eyes on the wide receiver and then you'll make a play. Don't try to make a play that's not there."

By Jason Reid  |  November 20, 2009; 3:45 PM ET
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Rogerssssssss

Posted by: kreitmaster | November 20, 2009 3:47 PM | Report abuse

then how did he get the nickname "Double Move"?

On the nickname note, I'd like to proffer the following for acceptance:

Bingo Lewis
Carlos "Double Move" Rogers
Fred "Sleepy" Davis

If we keep it up, they'll stick.

Posted by: DikShuttle | November 20, 2009 3:49 PM | Report abuse

He's responded great. He understands what he has to do and it's nothing new," Gray said. "The thing that he has to do is show who you really are, stop going through the little phase that he'd been going through of giving up double moves. Traditionally, he hasn't given up double moves


um.....can someone please drug-test Jerry Gray.....

Posted by: BeantownGreg1 | November 20, 2009 3:53 PM | Report abuse

Coach Jim Zorn praised cornerback Carlos Rogers for responding well in practice this week after having been benched...

By Jason Reid | November 20, 2009; 3:45 PM ET

Lot of players would have just twiddled their thumbs if they'd been benched. Not Rogers! He doesn't have the eye-hand coordination for that.

Posted by: League-Source | November 20, 2009 3:53 PM | Report abuse

If Carlos has been so impressive why can't/won't Zorn commit to him as a starter?

Is he worried about hurting someones feelings? If Carlos has been so good then he starts. If Barnes/Smoot/Tryon have been better or fit scheme better then they start. Is this so hard to say?

Jim Zorn and decisions don't mix.

Posted by: PortisPocketsStr8 | November 20, 2009 3:55 PM | Report abuse

Bold Prediction: Carlos gets 2 picks this game and actually holds onto them!!!


//no, I'm not drinking yet. Why do you ask?

Posted by: PAskinsfan17 | November 20, 2009 3:56 PM | Report abuse

D-Shuttle, what about:

Bing Lewis
Dub Rogers


I always thought Sleepy Davis was official.

Also:

Stumpy Haynesworth or Moneysworth
Brother Malcolm

Posted by: RedDMV | November 20, 2009 3:56 PM | Report abuse

lmao@leaguesource.

Posted by: DikShuttle | November 20, 2009 3:57 PM | Report abuse

Bean, the only thing I can think of is that Gray is trying to squeeze all he can out of Rogers. The guy has the potential, but all potential means is that you're not doing s*** right now.

Probably trying to get his confidence up, so Crayton doesn't go out and flame-broil the dude.

Posted by: RedDMV | November 20, 2009 3:59 PM | Report abuse

I'll go with Dub Rogers. Sounds good. I think you're right about Sleepy - I just haven't seen it used that much lately.. need more!

I'm'ma stick w/ Bingo Lewis tho.

Stompsworth. Why Brother Malcom again? was he studying to be a priest? hehe.

Posted by: DikShuttle | November 20, 2009 4:02 PM | Report abuse

red, I mean, these are professionals were talking about, is Rogers really that fragile??

guys like a 12 year old girl.....

Posted by: BeantownGreg1 | November 20, 2009 4:04 PM | Report abuse

Confidence is overrated. Determination and Skill are MUCH more important.

Have a good weekend skins fans.

F Dallas

Posted by: REXskins | November 20, 2009 4:08 PM | Report abuse

F Dallas

Posted by: JohnDinHouston | November 20, 2009 4:17 PM | Report abuse

"The thing that he has to do is show who you really are, stop going through the little phase that he'd been going through of giving up double moves. Traditionally, he hasn't given up double moves."

- Jerry Gray

Was this line followed by raucous laughter from the media / anyone else within an earshot of Gray?

Posted by: mattylight | November 20, 2009 4:20 PM | Report abuse

Rogers has 6 games and all that is riding on it is about $10-15million for him.

If he messes up and winds up on the bench, he's getting a 2 year deal for $2.8million. If he lights it up, he's getting a 4 year deal for $17.8million.

If I'm Rogers, I'm thinking it'd be good to get my job back.

Posted by: zcezcest1 | November 20, 2009 4:20 PM | Report abuse

z, the next 6 games wont change the previous 4 seasons.....teams will look at the majority of tape they have on CR, and see the same things over, and over...

Posted by: BeantownGreg1 | November 20, 2009 4:23 PM | Report abuse

Jason Reid two weeks ago: The Skins won't win another game.

Jason Reid today: With consistent pressure on Romo, I like their chances.

COME ON MAN!

Credibility? Uh, not so much.

Posted by: SMACK1 | November 20, 2009 4:28 PM | Report abuse

rogers was good when he had a good shut down corner like springs on the other side on the number 1 receiver he dont have that this year. the worst thing that could happen to rogers wallet is springs leaving

Posted by: mudman220 | November 20, 2009 4:41 PM | Report abuse

z, the next 6 games wont change the previous 4 seasons.....teams will look at the majority of tape they have on CR, and see the same things over, and over...

Posted by: BeantownGreg1

yes and no. What happened last is the strongest determinant and if it sRogers benched for Tryon, then Rogers is a reclamation project. If Rogers plays well, the he gets major $$. He did play well last year.

When I did some of my draft analysis, the secondary stood out. It was the area where the ratio of players selected compared to the # slots available on the field was the highest. In other words, teams place a premium on CBs.

Posted by: zcezcest1 | November 20, 2009 4:41 PM | Report abuse

guys like a 12 year old girl.....

Posted by: BeantownGreg1 | November 20, 2009 4:04 PM


Well, not all guys. Some guys, maybe. Jerry Lee Lewis, Roman Polanski...

Posted by: freakzilla | November 20, 2009 4:42 PM | Report abuse

Well, to back up J. Reid - I think it's fair to say that the last 6 quarters of our offensive play would slightly change the way that we think about the team.

Besides; Dallas got beat in GB last week, they may think that this is a cake game, and the Redskins are loose and have nothing to lose -

Posted by: JohnDinHouston | November 20, 2009 4:44 PM | Report abuse

zcezcest1

"Rogers has 6 games and all that is riding on it is about $10-15 million for him."


Sure.

The question is, will Dan Snyder be paying him or some other well-heeled benevolent soul?

In a pass happy league, a team needs to be four corners deep to survive.

And no matter what folks here think about him, Rogers does have value.

The question--again--is to whom?

Posted by: MistaMoe | November 20, 2009 4:46 PM | Report abuse

rogers was good when he had a good shut down corner like springs on the other side on the number 1 receiver he dont have that this year. the worst thing that could happen to rogers wallet is springs leaving

Posted by: mudman220 | November 20, 2009 4:41 PM | Report abuse
--------------------------------------

There's also a player coach dynamic there, too. You let a Shawn Springs walk out the door, and you lose a member of your coaching staff as well. DHall isn't exactly known as Mr. Disciplined, so Monday thru Friday Mr. Rogers might have some learning to do about his own game preparation.

Posted by: mattsoundworld | November 20, 2009 4:47 PM | Report abuse

The question--again--is to whom?

Posted by: MistaMoe | November 20, 2009 4:46 PM | Report abuse

To a good defense that doesn't get that many int's , seeing as he can't catch one. So he fits in perfect with the skins. He's going nowhere.

Posted by: iH8dallas | November 20, 2009 4:50 PM | Report abuse

ZMan,
Dude if you think benching helps, why not bench the whole stinking team! Off-season Superbowl is the next stop. LMAO

Posted by: jcpublicmedia | November 20, 2009 4:53 PM | Report abuse

smack1

"Jason Reid two weeks ago: The Skins won't win another game. Jason Reid today: With consistent pressure on Romo, I like their chances."

There's been a lot of that recently.

I'll admit to some of it myself.

Thing is, my eyes opened up during the second half of the falcons' loss.

The skins could've folded and 'mailed it in' and gone home.

A lot of teams do.

But the team played better.

Again: Zorn has the locker room.

The players respond to him.

And when you take the offensive schematic differences that started then with how they played out in the broncos' game, there is legit reason for optimism.

Even if we lose to dallas, continued offensive production--i.e., scoring, pass blocking, pass catching by the class of '08, Betts getting into a groove--is a win for the long term.

Posted by: MistaMoe | November 20, 2009 4:54 PM | Report abuse

moe - quite often, we are on the same wavelength...

Posted by: JohnDinHouston | November 20, 2009 5:02 PM | Report abuse

Haven't we read this about three times already? Has he had three chances or what?

Posted by: League-Source |

Well the thumb-sucking angle is new.

Posted by: TheCork | November 20, 2009 5:04 PM | Report abuse

"Jason Reid two weeks ago: The Skins won't win another game. Jason Reid today: With consistent pressure on Romo, I like their chances."

Maybe this is "da Mayor's" way of cursing us. He would hate to see this team do well.

Posted by: dcwun | November 20, 2009 5:07 PM | Report abuse

Yeah Moe, it's not really the flip-flop that bothers me, but I think the first statement, that the Skins wouldn't win another game, could have only been spoken by someone who has never seen a football bounce.

The NFL is a crazy game. Witness the fact that injuries hurt other teams, but help the Skins. That's pretty whack.

Posted by: SMACK1 | November 20, 2009 5:09 PM | Report abuse

Mista -- I agree, Rogers has value and I'm guessing someone pays more for him than Danny wants to pay him. But I think a lot rides on his performance from now til the end of the year.

As for Rogers responding well to the benching, it sort of reminds me of how Joe Gibbs used to talk glowingly about Mark Brunell and his ability to throw the ball away and not make a big mistake. I know its part of the game, but Ugh!!!

Posted by: zcezcest1 | November 20, 2009 5:10 PM | Report abuse

Besides; Dallas got beat in GB last week, they may think that this is a cake game, and the Redskins are loose and have nothing to lose -

Posted by: JohnDinHouston

Whether or not it's a cake game or a cakewalk game depends alot on Mr. Haynesworth's ankle. Without him in there drawing two-three blockers, the pass rush goes away and Romo throws for 350.

Speaking of $$$, Levi Jones can earn himself a whole passel of it if he stones a certain Troy Alum all-pro pass rusher.

Posted by: TheCork | November 20, 2009 5:15 PM | Report abuse

Bold Prediction: Carlos gets 2 picks this game and actually holds onto them!!!


//no, I'm not drinking yet. Why do you ask?

Posted by: PAskinsfan17 | November 20, 2009 3:56 PM
____________________________________-

His nose and a$$ don't count!

Posted by: 6-2StackMonster | November 20, 2009 5:22 PM | Report abuse

Jason Reid two weeks ago: The Skins won't win another game.

Jason Reid today: With consistent pressure on Romo, I like their chances.

COME ON MAN!

Credibility? Uh, not so much.

Posted by: SMACK1 | November 20, 2009 4:28 PM

When he gets new information, when circumstances change, he changes his mind. What do you do?

Posted by: League-Source | November 20, 2009 5:23 PM | Report abuse

I don't say dumb things and hedge later.

Posted by: SMACK1 | November 20, 2009 5:32 PM | Report abuse

F Dallas

Posted by: Notorious_LMG | November 20, 2009 5:37 PM | Report abuse

Haynesworth rx: Soak the ankle in epsom salt(warm to hot water) then ice the ankle for about fifteen to twenty minutes tape him up and send him out there for forty million there's no such thing as a game time decesion.

Posted by: dargregmag | November 20, 2009 5:53 PM | Report abuse

Personally, I think I'll check "thespread.com" ...

hmmmm ....


. Current public betting information shows that 57% of bets for this game have been placed on the Redskins +11 (View NFL bet percentages).

The fact that Dallas (6-3) is on top of the NFC East and Washington (3-6) is at the bottom doesn't seem to matter, especially since the Redskins have won five of the last eight meetings. Washington angered many Dallas fans with its 26-24 win last year in its final visit to Texas Stadium.

"Regardless of who it is, what better team to get one on and that's Dallas," Redskins receiver Santana Moss said. "And so it makes that week special regardless of what the situation is, as far as the lineup or what we're going through."

Posted by: periculum | November 20, 2009 6:45 PM | Report abuse

As a huge underdog:

Lez see: 4-7 against the spread.
6-5 over/under
2-9 straight up

since 1992

1-1 against the spread.
2-0 over/under
0-2 straight up

last 3.

'Pears as if the Vegas bettors feel that Washington may beat the spread against them.


Posted by: periculum | November 20, 2009 6:50 PM | Report abuse

Bold Prediction: Carlos gets 2 picks this game and actually holds onto them!!!

//no, I'm not drinking yet. Why do you ask?

Posted by: PAskinsfan17 | November 20, 2009 3:56 PM

I think you should have a drink, and make it a double. You'll need something to calm yourself after CR gets burned again. Tell you what - if your prediction holds, I'll buy.

Posted by: bones21 | November 20, 2009 6:53 PM | Report abuse

Does he really have any other choice but to respond well? I'm sure he would like to play and pouting is not going to get it done.

Posted by: MHEDRLT | November 20, 2009 7:09 PM | Report abuse

F Dalls

Posted by: ThrowItToMyTeam | November 20, 2009 7:44 PM | Report abuse

F Dallas

Posted by: ThrowItToMyTeam | November 20, 2009 7:44 PM | Report abuse

Just wanted to say F Dallas

Posted by: ThrowItToMyTeam | November 20, 2009 7:45 PM | Report abuse

i can't wait till the off season, things will be so much more interesting! F DALLAS.

Posted by: BMACattack | November 20, 2009 7:50 PM | Report abuse

It's Friday night, and I'm home in front of a computer.

I wonder why?

Oh yeah:

F Dallas!

That's why.

I know there had to be a reason.

Posted by: MistaMoe | November 20, 2009 7:58 PM | Report abuse

Beep Beep

*NEW THREAD*


REVISITING THE HIRE OF SHERMAN LEWIS
"When Washington hired Sherman Lewis to call its plays, he was mocked and criticized. The amount of ridicule was shortsighted and mean-spirited, particularly for a man as accomplished as Lewis -- a former offensive coordinator for the Green Bay Packers, Minnesota Vikings and Detroit Lions.

Now that Lewis has had three games to call Washington's plays, check out how the Redskins' offensive production compares. In the first six games of the season, the Redskins averaged 12.4 points per game; in the past three games, they have averaged 20.3. In the first six games, the Redskins averaged 16 first downs per game; in the past three games, they have averaged 20. In the first six games, the Redskins averaged 294 yards per game; in the past three, they have averaged 336.

The average rank of the defenses the Redskins played in the first six weeks was 21st; the average rank of the defenses the Redskins played in the past three weeks was 13th. And, in the past three weeks, the Redskins have been without offensive linemen Chris Samuels and Randy Thomas, tight end Chris Cooley, and running back Clinton Portis for one game. So when the Redskins brought aboard Lewis to call plays, there really was one word to describe it: Bingo." -Adam Shefter, Espn Expert.

POLL: Was hiring Sherman Lewis a success?

()Yes
()No
()Too early to say


Question for the 'outside of da box' thinkers: Is Adam sub-consciously praising Vinny-the man responsible for emailing Sherm?


By Vicc | November 20, 2009; 8:00 PM ET
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Posted by: Vicc | November 20, 2009 8:01 PM | Report abuse

bones21

"You'll need something to calm yourself after CR gets burned again."


Gotta question.

Raise your hand if you think Carlos could get moved to free safety, leaving LaRon Landry to play strong safety.

Barnes and Hall play corner, Tyron the slot.

Is this an improvement?

I wonder.

Posted by: MistaMoe | November 20, 2009 8:02 PM | Report abuse

vicc

I never argue with Schefter.

Vinny did do the right thing in bringing Lewis in to call plays--the way the team stripped Zorn of the responsibility is what was handled poorly.

The trick now is maintaining the shaky stability building on the offensive side of the redskin ball.

Again: even if the team loses this weekend, any semblence of a modern NFL offense beats the wreckage we suffered through the 1st month of the season.

I think the skins will play very well Sunday.

I can't wait.

Posted by: MistaMoe | November 20, 2009 8:10 PM | Report abuse

hey mista i completely agree. all we needed was a glimmer which was last weeks win. i think it gave all of us a little something to root for

Posted by: mudman220 | November 20, 2009 8:18 PM | Report abuse

The trick now is maintaining the shaky stability building on the offensive side of the redskin ball.

Posted by M. Moe


`
I'd like to see consistency on offense as well.

My only concern, though, is that several members of our current offense might not be here next season. I hate 'limited time offers.' I wouldn't want our offense to become the next "McRib"


Posted by: Vicc | November 20, 2009 8:47 PM | Report abuse

"tsss..thumP"


[the sound of vicc opening Port, on his 2 quart]

Posted by: Vicc | November 20, 2009 8:51 PM | Report abuse

why does he bite on double moves?it's not like he can make the interception.He is the last cornerback I want taking gambles on a big play,because as they say in roundball "he doesnt finish".Where was Levi Jones a month ago when it wasnt too late?Or Kendall or Runyon?Ceratto should have exhausted all oportunities to shore up the O-line months ago.That is bullsh#t.He should be fired immediately.I'm a fricking bricklayer and could do better.

Posted by: mark65 | November 20, 2009 8:53 PM | Report abuse

I've never understood changing the name of your original handle? Have you?

Posted by: Vicc | November 15, 2009 10:31 PM |

Have you noticed a lot of handles that end in "1" like beantowngreg1? If you forget your password and no longer have the email id linked to your handle when you created it, then you are verscrewed. You are blocked from using your handle anymore and have to make a slight change like adding a "1" at the end if you want to continue to post as you were known in the past. Otherwise, since adding a 1 at the end of the handle is kind of cheesy, you go with a completely new handle and start life all over again on RI. Or you can lead the life of a troll, posting with a number of different handles, allowing you to pick and chose what personality you want to have when you post - flamer, provocateur, schmoozer, expositor, elaborator, adviser, etc.

Posted by: TubularBells


Well Done.

I don't think mudman has changed his handle 220 times though

Posted by: Vicc | November 20, 2009 8:57 PM | Report abuse

Well it s a beautiful day here in Aloha land. I just got out of the water after enjoying some 8-10 foot faces.

And I just thought I'd drop in here to say:


F DALLAS

Posted by: SkinsfaninKaneohe | November 20, 2009 9:04 PM | Report abuse

Or maybe there are just lots of people on this blog who weigh 220. I'm about a double-stuffed oreo from there myself.

My "1" happened after registration struck. I just never was myself after that.

Posted by: SMACK1 | November 20, 2009 9:08 PM | Report abuse

Ceratto should have exhausted all oportunities to shore up the O-line months ago.That is bullsh#t.He should be fired immediately.I'm a fricking bricklayer and could do better.

Posted by: mark65 | November 20, 2009 8:53 PM | Report abuse

This has to be the most unique/original perspective on Vinny I've read in awhile.(sarcasm)

Wait a minute. Should Vinny be criticized and fired for what he's done or hasn't done? I'm confused.

Posted by: Vicc | November 20, 2009 9:08 PM | Report abuse

Just checked the TV sked for Sunday... Redskins/pokes is on here in Hawaii. Sweet.

Posted by: SkinsfaninKaneohe | November 20, 2009 9:08 PM | Report abuse

Very suspicious SMACK1.

Do you know that there is a mack1 on RI.

that flake d0uches it up here evry once in awhile. maybe if I say something he/she doesn't like, he/she will appear.

Posted by: Vicc | November 20, 2009 9:15 PM | Report abuse

Posted by: Vicc | November 20, 2009 9:23 PM | Report abuse

RI has a long tradition of imitation and impersonation, but I never thought mack1 had anything to do with SMACK1. mack1 seems alright, and if there were a point being made I think it would have been capitalized.

And football, memes, refrains, sjks, and such as.

Posted by: SMACK1 | November 20, 2009 9:26 PM | Report abuse

yea, I've seen many versions of chrislarry.

Not too sure there is much refrain going on though.

Posted by: Vicc | November 20, 2009 9:34 PM | Report abuse

Vinny's hiring of Sherm Lewis was a good thing. Yeah, lots of people made bingo comments because it was just too easy, but a few of us hung back knowing Lewis was a very successful asst coach in this league. We realized if he kept up to date on the game (which no one has asked him as best as I can tell), the fact he spent a few hours a week calling bingo games would have nothing to do with the guy's current football knowledge.

Vinny's failures on the OL are a very bad thing. The consistent failure to draft OL, the failure to bring in adequate OL players when available, etc were awful decisions.

The hiring of Jim Zorn and the idea that this should be a WCO team were awful decisions.

Trading for Jason Taylor without any plan on how to use him or what other parts might be helpful were awful decisions.

Choosing to bump up against the salary cap is an awful decision, repeated annually.

The attempt to get Jay Cutler by giving up a ton in players and picks was an awful decision, averted only by Chicago's even more awful decision.

Bottom line, Vinny does deserve credit for bringing Sherm Lewis in. Of course, several posters up here suggested that Vinny bring in someone to help Zorn (I had suggested Holmgren, others posters had other suggestions). Even on that front, the posters up here seemed to be a couple steps ahead of Vinny.

Bottom line, when you've messed up a huge number of your key decisions and even your best decision comes several weeks after Redskin Insider posters suggest it, yeah, you deserve to be fired.

Posted by: zcezcest1 | November 20, 2009 9:38 PM | Report abuse

What's going to happen is anyone's guess. But Skins +11 is ridiculous. I know where my money would be going.

I'm just going to be happy to see the two teams on the field together. It only happens 6 hours a year, which if you think about it is only a fourth of xmas.

Good luck and fair play RI. None of that Thierry Henry BS!

Posted by: SMACK1 | November 20, 2009 9:44 PM | Report abuse

""The thing that he has to do is show who you really are, stop going through the little phase that he'd been going through of giving up double moves. Traditionally, he hasn't given up double moves.""


Yeah. Nice. Good stuff from Jerry Gray.

We just need to snap Rogers out of this little 5-year phase he's been in. Really he's solid on the double-moves, when you look at his Pop Warner film he's not getting beat nearly as much.

Jerry Gray, the next butt-nugget in line to be the Redskins coach.

Posted by: p1funk | November 20, 2009 9:48 PM | Report abuse

None of that Thierry Henry BS!

Posted by: SMACK1 | November 20, 2009 9:44 PM | Report abuse


`
LOL

Ireland is completely pissed. The French would stomp em out in a rematch anyway.

the whole 'be careful what you wish for' saying applies here.

Posted by: Vicc | November 20, 2009 9:53 PM | Report abuse

Vinny did do the right thing in bringing Lewis in to call plays--the way the team stripped Zorn of the responsibility is what was handled poorly.

Posted by: MistaMoe | November 20, 2009 8:10 PM | Report abuse


And how do you handle that "well"?

You either fire Zorn - which they clearly were not prepared to do. Or you force him to cough up the responsibility.

I refuse to give any kudos for the situation to Vinny on any level.

When you pee the bed, you don't get extra credit for changing the sheet.

Vinny created this dysfunction and it's his job to try to hold it together - as vain and pointless as it is.


Posted by: p1funk | November 20, 2009 9:54 PM | Report abuse

Yeah Vicc, it's perfect. We get to enjoy the French style of football, and then get to completely slag them off as unworthy participants if they manage to win.

I, as usual, will be crying in my Oranjeboom.

Posted by: SMACK1 | November 20, 2009 9:56 PM | Report abuse

LOL

Ireland is completely pissed. The French would stomp em out in a rematch anyway.

the whole 'be careful what you wish for' saying applies here.

Posted by: Vicc | November 20, 2009 9:53 PM | Report abuse


In national-team soccer, if you don't get a replay on the game then your next option is to go to war.

My $$ is on Ireland.

The Frenchies are all too familiar with laying down on the battle field, and a bunch of Irishmen pissed off over soccer would strike fear into even the most stout-hearted.

Anyhow, Vicc I'm not sure if you actually watch soccer, but the French national team sucks - living off their reputation and some timely favortism from FIFA.

Posted by: p1funk | November 20, 2009 9:57 PM | Report abuse

FIRED UP!!! Headed to Big D tomorrow to watch the Redskins keep up their 20+ pt ASSAULT! ok, who am i kidding? I am excited to see that big ass digital screen. Who knows, maybe we can actually play some D and offense. Soups plays well against D and Romo plays like crap against us! Crazier things have happened!

Any RI heading to the game?

CLEGG

Posted by: michael_b_clegg | November 20, 2009 10:03 PM | Report abuse

Any RI heading to the game?

CLEGG

Posted by: michael_b_clegg | November 20, 2009 10:03 PM | Report abuse

No.

Posted by: p1funk | November 20, 2009 10:04 PM | Report abuse

"Patriotism is the virtue of the vicious."
-Oscar Wilde


The French have young talent on offense. It's their defense that is atrocious.

I still haven't gotten over that loss at Azteca after having a 1-0 lead. We've regressed since '02. We are supposed to be past competitiveness with Mexico already. Why do we still struggle with that slow non-athletic, all they do is compress their defense, team.

Damn Davies. I thought he had more potential than Altidore. Such a shame.

Posted by: Vicc | November 20, 2009 10:12 PM | Report abuse

The French have young talent on offense. It's their defense that is atrocious.

-Vicc


The speed of their forwards as well as attacking mid-fielders make them dangerous.

They could prolly use a couple of Midfielders as well. Particularly defensive minded midfielders.

Posted by: Vicc | November 20, 2009 10:18 PM | Report abuse

The French have young talent on offense. It's their defense that is atrocious.

I still haven't gotten over that loss at Azteca after having a 1-0 lead. We've regressed since '02. We are supposed to be past competitiveness with Mexico already. Why do we still struggle with that slow non-athletic, all they do is compress their defense, team.

Damn Davies. I thought he had more potential than Altidore. Such a shame.

Posted by: Vicc | November 20, 2009 10:12 PM | Report abuse


The French have been outed as a team that was one-man dependent. Since Zidane retired they have no identity or cohesiveness.

The talent of the young players is squandered under Domenech. They have to figure out how to win depsite their coach's influence...(much like the Redskins).

Besides, talented individuals do not equal a good soccer team - if that were the case, Nigeria and England would be serious World Cup contenders every year, instead of also-rans who sometimes don't even qualify for big tourneys.

The U.S. simply lacks talent at the forward position - plain and simple. When it's all said and done you need more goals than your opponent. We've got no reliable killer-instinct strikers.

Posted by: p1funk | November 20, 2009 10:19 PM | Report abuse

I still have some doubts about South Africa being able to pull this off. Even rampant corruption requires some sort of structure, and I don't see it.

Ribery is a helluva player. I'm fully expecting an England/Holland/USA/Ivory Coast draw and going to bed early.

Posted by: SMACK1 | November 20, 2009 10:27 PM | Report abuse

Rogers has 6 games and all that is riding on it is about $10-15million for him.

If he messes up and winds up on the bench, he's getting a 2 year deal for $2.8million. If he lights it up, he's getting a 4 year deal for $17.8million.

If I'm Rogers, I'm thinking it'd be good to get my job back.

Posted by: zcezcest1 | November 20, 2009 4:20 PM | Report abuse


If that's the case, then I'm expecting some uninspiring performances from Rogers.

He had some decent seasons when ST21 and Shawn Springs were out there covering his arse.

Has he ever come up clutch when the pressure is on?

Posted by: p1funk | November 20, 2009 10:29 PM | Report abuse

I still have some doubts about South Africa being able to pull this off. Even rampant corruption requires some sort of structure, and I don't see it.

Ribery is a helluva player. I'm fully expecting an England/Holland/USA/Ivory Coast draw and going to bed early.

Posted by: SMACK1 | November 20, 2009 10:27 PM | Report abuse


Rapmant corruption does have a structure.

It's called FIFA, and it's an international organization with no borders to contain it.

Italy to repeat.

Posted by: p1funk | November 20, 2009 10:32 PM | Report abuse

The Netherlands always have a cornucopia of players, but I hear their coach won't take any Leos on his WC roster--or sum superstitious crap like that.

I'd love to see Ivory Coast play in the WC again.

Posted by: Vicc | November 20, 2009 10:37 PM | Report abuse

Ya know CLEGG,

I wouldn't be surprised if Soups did have another big game in Dallas.

He was being interviewed on the radio and he mentioned how he won't miss moss again on his next deep throw. can't wait.

(waiting...)

Posted by: Vicc | November 20, 2009 10:42 PM | Report abuse

Netherlands are weak in defense. It's VandeSar between the sticks that makes them look respectable back there.

But if they don't score 3 goals and their opponent can hog possession, they suffer.

It's why I believe in Italy. They can win pretty or they can win ugly - oftentimes I think they prefer to win ugly.

Posted by: p1funk | November 20, 2009 10:42 PM | Report abuse

That's ironic eh, since this is the logo.
http://www.one4africa.nl/wp-content/uploads/2009/07/knvb-logo.gif

Posted by: SMACK1 | November 20, 2009 10:45 PM | Report abuse

I personally like Spain to win it, despite notoriously choking.

Their ball control is second to none. Only the combo of Pirlo and De Rossi can match Spain's plethora of talent at midfield.

Posted by: Vicc | November 20, 2009 10:50 PM | Report abuse

On My Fantasy Bench: Romo, Barber,

Replacements: Big Ben, Hightower

Austin starting over Hester and Mark Clayton.

I hate this game every year.

Posted by: SMACK1 | November 20, 2009 10:58 PM | Report abuse

Just what is the upside, too Rogers being on this roster ?

He cant catch and he cant cover !
Yet both he and the Redskin braintrust, see him as a pro Corner.

Go figure !

Posted by: dashriprock | November 20, 2009 11:06 PM | Report abuse

Jay Cutler has never lost the next game following a 3+ INT game. There's a first time for everything right?

C'mon Cutler and beat those iggles.

Can't really see the Falcons stealing one at the Meadowlands with the jints coming off a bye.

F Dallas

Posted by: Vicc | November 20, 2009 11:07 PM | Report abuse

He knocks balls down. Sometimes four at a time.

Posted by: SMACK1 | November 20, 2009 11:09 PM | Report abuse

p1funk

"When you pee the bed, you don't get extra credit for changing the sheet."

Classic.

I'm stealing this.

With or without your permission.

Posted by: MistaMoe | November 20, 2009 11:10 PM | Report abuse

Rogers strength is Man coverage.

Greg Blatche likes the zone.

Posted by: Vicc | November 20, 2009 11:11 PM | Report abuse

Yeah Vicc F Dallas but good god when will the Vikes start losing. Somebody dislocate the old man's hip already.

Posted by: SMACK1 | November 20, 2009 11:11 PM | Report abuse

I personally like Spain to win it, despite notoriously choking.

Their ball control is second to none. Only the combo of Pirlo and De Rossi can match Spain's plethora of talent at midfield.

Posted by: Vicc | November 20, 2009 10:50 PM | Report abuse


In Euros, Spain beat Italy on penalty kicks, and the Spanish players said it was their toughest match by far. And Italy was playing poorly throughout that tourney - particularly the selections at forward with Donadoni looking quite the incompetent.

Lippi is a much more savvy and experienced coach.

Posted by: p1funk | November 20, 2009 11:13 PM | Report abuse

p1funk

"When you pee the bed, you don't get extra credit for changing the sheet."

Classic.

I'm stealing this.

With or without your permission.

Posted by: MistaMoe | November 20, 2009 11:10 PM | Report abuse


In that case, you have my permission.

Posted by: p1funk | November 20, 2009 11:15 PM | Report abuse

Whatever happened to Greg Blatche-the river boat gambler?


Can we see a blitz Greg?


blitz 6. even 7. gamble and leave a zone uncovered every once in awhile Greg. Not every QB is Manning or Warner. If Jason Campbell struggles against it(pumpfaking with Yoder streaking down the middle) then other QBs will also. QBs have reads and can't always find the hole in a blitz defense and if the blitz works he won't have time to.

Pressure busts pipes.

Posted by: Vicc | November 20, 2009 11:16 PM | Report abuse

On My Fantasy Bench: Romo, Barber,

Replacements: Big Ben, Hightower

Austin starting over Hester and Mark Clayton.

I hate this game every year.

Posted by: SMACK1 | November 20, 2009 10:58 PM | Report abuse


I have a self-imposed fantasy rule that I will never under any circumstances have a Dallas players on my squad.

I could never ever ever root for the success of Dallas or any of its players in real life.

It makes things a bit simpler for me on Sundays.

Posted by: p1funk | November 20, 2009 11:18 PM | Report abuse

Yeah the clean-up sucks but the peeing itself feels ssooooooo goooooood.

Posted by: SMACK1 | November 20, 2009 11:19 PM | Report abuse

Yeah Vicc F Dallas but good god when will the Vikes start losing. Somebody dislocate the old man's hip already.

Posted by: SMACK1


LOL

Knowing Farve, he'll still play though.

I can't remember the last #1 seed in the NFC who won the Superbowl anyway. #1 seed is a curse.

Posted by: Vicc | November 20, 2009 11:20 PM | Report abuse

Whatever happened to Greg Blatche-the river boat gambler?

Can we see a blitz Greg?

Posted by: Vicc | November 20, 2009 11:16 PM | Report abuse


I think Blache knows what he has (or doesn't have) back there this year with Rogers and Landry.

It's hard to gamble with an off-suit 2 and 7...

Posted by: p1funk | November 20, 2009 11:21 PM | Report abuse

p1, even purists will tell you, keep your heart and your wallet separate. But I know what you mean.

Posted by: SMACK1 | November 20, 2009 11:23 PM | Report abuse

p1, even purists will tell you, keep your heart and your wallet separate. But I know what you mean.

Posted by: SMACK1 | November 20, 2009 11:23 PM | Report abuse


That's why I only play for bragging rights.

Posted by: p1funk | November 20, 2009 11:27 PM | Report abuse

What in the world is RI coming to when you got MOFOS claiming stats are for suckas.

I'll give you 'stats don't always tell the whole story', if you'll give me 'some stats are actually meaningful.'

I've consistently, and recently, said that you need a Qb who is capable of playing at a Pro-Bowl level to win the Superbowl--irregardless of the O-line play. I've also said that Great defenses win Superbowls.

Now forget football for a sec--and that includes European Stylee(I appreciate you SMACK1 and p1funk{whom I've cooked before} for giving soccer it's due diligence--Basketball has become an individual sport and that sentiment is echoed by lack of parity: 8 diff. championship teams in past 30 years.

I CHALLENGE YOU, ROGER GOODELL:

Show me a league of parity or, I dunno, a Superbowl winning team where the consensus vote is that the Qb is not of Pro-Bowl caliber and I'll show you a profitable fan--irregardless of his/her bias..I mean favorite team!

F Dallas

'SKINS NEED TO WHOOP SOME A$$ THIS WEEKEND, CUZ THEY KNOW DAMN WELL GOD FORBID JASON CAMPBELL SWEEPS EM THIS YEAR AND NOW I'M LIKE BRING HIS A$$ BACK. i MEAN: WHEN THE GOAL OF MAKING THE PLAYOFFS IS NO LONGER IN FOCUS. SWEEPING DALLAS AND ALL BUT DRAGGIN THEM UNDER WITH US MAKES IT WORTH IT!

we'll make the playoffs and win a superbowl next year!

Go Skins.


Posted by: Vicc | November 21, 2009 12:33 AM | Report abuse

Check this Sh!t out!

In honor of the World Cup speak tonite: http://bleacherreport.com/articles/293441-the-world-cup-of-hot-chicks#page/1


Mano in Sierra Leone, I'll see you soon.

Posted by: Vicc | November 21, 2009 12:48 AM | Report abuse

I can personally vouch for German and Italian ladies.

RedDMV, ole bluffin-azz G, you mentioned b4 'bout being overseas like in da military or sumthin right?

I think you know what I'm talkin bout^^^

Sheeeet, I've seen you reference eating fruit as a positive for females, 'cept a German told me specifically citric fruits; and she was chef!

Posted by: Vicc | November 21, 2009 1:00 AM | Report abuse

Mayor Reid,

U and the whole crew take the weekend off and I'll carry this lifeless blog for a few?

We must both agree, however, to accept a now morally binding code of having no regrets and no reneging on said deal.

Deal?

Posted by: Vicc | November 21, 2009 1:15 AM | Report abuse

F Dallas!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Go Skins!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

WE NEED A MIRACLE

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-6lehaBcHpU

Posted by: BrooklynSkins | November 21, 2009 3:23 AM | Report abuse

Posted by: BrooklynSkins | November 21, 2009 3:36 AM | Report abuse

I have a self-imposed fantasy rule that I will never under any circumstances have a Dallas players on my squad.

I could never ever ever root for the success of Dallas or any of its players in real life.

It makes things a bit simpler for me on Sundays.

Posted by: p1funk

I take that a bit further. No NFC East players other than Skins. I haven't played anyone on either FF team that played the Skins that week.

Posted by: zcezcest1 | November 21, 2009 3:49 AM | Report abuse

Reading between the lines translation:

"We told stone hands to stop trying to look for INT opportunities, to cover his guy, and if he then gets a chance to try to pick off a ball, hold onto the thing!"

Posted by: Veretax | November 21, 2009 6:28 AM | Report abuse

P1,

"When you pee the bed, you don't get extra credit for changing the sheet."

HOLY CRAP!!!! THAT IS HILARIOUS!!!!!

Big D, heading that way! Let this game result in the Monday night 2005 game!!! Boy there was nothing sweeter than being at that game! Getting killed the entire game, laughing at me b/c the Skins suck, and all of a sudden.... TD Moss, then again TD MOSS!!!!!!!! W000 Hoooooo!! That was sweet! The statement, could have heard a pin drop has never been more true!

CLEGG

Posted by: michael_b_clegg | November 21, 2009 7:57 AM | Report abuse

Best 'cuss word:

"Sheeeeeeeeeeeeettttt.......," Senator Clay Davis, "The Wire."

Analysis: "Sheeeeeet...." succeeds like the "F-bomb" because like it's four-lettered friend, it is flexible, and has varied meanings.

"Sheeeeeet.....!" can mean the user agrees, disagrees, is down with what you're saying, but not be down with you.

"Sheeeeeeet.....!" with a dap pound and wink suggests that the playa should go ahead and work his magic knowing his homie will be there to back him.

"Sheeeeeeeet.....," with a sideways headshake and raised eyebrows means the speaker disagrees and cannot participate in whatever foolishness his freind is about to engage in.

Finally, "Sheeeeeeet....," spoken in the ear of a fine woman over drinks in a quiet place means that if she's down with it, both parties can get a hotel room.

There, they can practice conjugating the various meanings of the F-bomb.

And if she changes her mind when you get there, you can say, "Sheeeeeeeet, baby, you got to go!"

Posted by: MistaMoe | November 21, 2009 8:19 AM | Report abuse

If we win:

F Dallas

If we lose:

F Dallas

Only louder

Posted by: MistaMoe | November 21, 2009 8:23 AM | Report abuse

DikShuttle,

I like Stompworth for Haynesworth.

Posted by: hessone | November 21, 2009 8:47 AM | Report abuse

Vinny Cerrato has made way more bad decisions than good. It seems as if we do have some young talent on defense.

Posted by: rickyroge | November 21, 2009 8:52 AM | Report abuse

Only the Zorn led coaching staff would praise a player for how they handled being benched!! Are you kidding me? I don't give a sh*t how he handles being benched, I care about him not getting smoked like he has been all year long!!! What ever happened to being held accountable?? I'm sick of these coaches kissing the butts of these overpaid, underperforming athletes!!!!

Posted by: jcrabbe1 | November 21, 2009 9:51 AM | Report abuse

If Carlos Rodgers was the kid in the Mean Joe Green Coke commercial, how many takes would it have taken for Carlos to catch the Jersey??

Posted by: RedskinJim1 | November 21, 2009 10:04 AM | Report abuse

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