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Samuels expected to go on IR during bye week

During the bye week, the Redskins are expected to assign Pro Bowl left tackle Chris Samuels to the season-ending injured-reserve list.

"He'll probably go on injured reserve so we can get that roster spot," Coach Jim Zorn said. "We need a spot, too, and yet nothing has been determined. We're still talking through things."

After learning he could become paralyzed if he continues to play, Samuels has told people in the organization that he will sit out the remainder of the season and plans to retire. In a statement on Samuels's behalf released by the team Friday, the 10-year veteran, who suffered a serious neck injury two weeks ago against the Carolina Panthers and also suffers from a narrowing of the spine, said he would continue to seek medical advice and had not made any decisions about his future in football.

Recently signed tackle Levi Jones is "likely to be activated" for Monday night's game against the Philadelphia Eagles at FedEx Field, Zorn said.

By Jason Reid  |  October 24, 2009; 2:00 PM ET
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Comments

Were any of the training camp OL good enough to be on the practice squad? Deja Vu from last year...

Posted by: daggar | October 24, 2009 2:11 PM | Report abuse

Did Gruden check whether they were keeping the HC seat properly warmed for him?

Posted by: chasgiffen | October 24, 2009 1:05 PM |

Warm? Christ Almighty. It's beem scorching hot for some time now. If anything they will have to ice it down for the next coach.

Posted by: TubularBells | October 24, 2009 2:16 PM | Report abuse

By which I mean scraping people from other teams' practice squads to fill roster spots.

Posted by: daggar | October 24, 2009 2:18 PM | Report abuse

If cap space becomes an issue next year, put Samuels on IR again to spread out the hit....(assuming he doesn't retire)

Posted by: BigE44 | October 24, 2009 2:19 PM | Report abuse

There've been a lot of requests for players from other teams' practice squads, and I know it's not a bad idea to get a young guy who might provide depth, but there's a reason they are on the practice squad--they aren't good enough to provide real help, which is what the skins' OL needs right now.

Posted by: BigE44 | October 24, 2009 2:21 PM | Report abuse

There were several warm greetings between Gruden and coaches, Maese tweets.

By Cindy Boren | October 24, 2009; 12:36 PM ET

Well, of course. They're all in the same fraternity. They have secret grips and special sequences of words they say to each other. As a league-source, I can tell you some of those words: "Hey!" "Good to see you again!" and the always-in-fashion, "What's up?"

Posted by: League-Source | October 24, 2009 12:54 PM |

The coaches may have their own fraternity but it ain't exactly close knit. It did not take too much to cornvince Lewis to come on board the HMS Skins to undermine one of the brothers.

Posted by: TubularBells | October 24, 2009 2:24 PM | Report abuse

you guys are stupid

Posted by: hezbollaskins | October 24, 2009 2:30 PM | Report abuse

Best case scenario front office and coaching staff 2010-2011

HC John Gruden
GM Anybody but Vinny
Ass'ts: Chucky's choice

Posted by: ElYeah | October 24, 2009 1:30 PM |

It may be too radical a change from the chummy, mellow karma of the Z regime and unwise to boot. By the time the Chuckster was being escorted out the door in TB he had turned many of the players on his team against him with his harsh, critical, demanding ways and the team had given up on him. When you are a coach one of the worst things that can happen to you is your team tuning you out. It's worse than being fired, because what does management know?

Posted by: TubularBells | October 24, 2009 2:37 PM | Report abuse

Fire Vinny, hire noone
Fire Vinny, hire noone
Fire Vinny, hire noone
Fire Vinny, hire noone
Fire Vinny, hire noone
Fire Vinny, hire noone

First round pick 2010 draft Russell Okung OK St

Posted by: noonefromtampa | October 24, 2009 2:37 PM | Report abuse

This is "Redskins Insider", not "Redskins Restate the Obvious".

Posted by: daggar | October 24, 2009 2:38 PM | Report abuse

you guys are stupid

Posted by: hezbollaskins | October 24, 2009 2:30 PM |

Would you like one of our drones to launch a Hellfire missile up your arse?

Posted by: TubularBells | October 24, 2009 2:40 PM | Report abuse

SICWIDIT'S POLL OF DA WEEK!

If we're in rebuilding mode next year, which players on the current roster would you rebuild with, keeping in mind we need starters and depth? Indicate "yes", "no", "maybe" (need to see more)

1) Jason Campbell
2) Todd Collins
3) Clinton Portis
4) Ladell Betts
5) Rock Cartwright
6) Chris Cooley
7) Stephon Heyer
8) Derrick Dockery
9) Casey Rabach
10) Mike Williams
11) Levi Jones
12) Santana Moss
13) ARE
14) Devin Thomas
15) Malcolm Kelly
16) Chad Rinehart
17) Will Montgomery
18) Marko Mitchell
19) Fred Davis

Stay tuned for defense later!

Posted by: rickyroge | October 24, 2009 10:30 AM | Report abuse

Posted by: rickyroge | October 24, 2009 2:43 PM | Report abuse

Russ Grimm, Head Coach
Chris Polian, Football Operations
Doug Williams, Player Personnel

There is a plan, just follow it!

Posted by: noonefromtampa | October 24, 2009 2:44 PM | Report abuse

1) Jason Campbell - keep backup qb
2) Todd Collins - cut
3) Clinton Portis - keep cap reasons
4) Ladell Betts - cut
5) Rock Cartwright - cut
6) Chris Cooley - keep
7) Stephon Heyer - keep backup
8) Derrick Dockery - keep
9) Casey Rabach - cut Edwin next year
10) Mike Williams - keep
11) Levi Jones - keep
12) Santana Moss - keep
13) ARE - cut
14) Devin Thomas - keep
15) Malcolm Kelly - keep
16) Chad Rinehart cut
17) Will Montgomery - keep backup
18) Marko Mitchell - keep going to be a good one if given a chance
19) Fred Davis - keep

Posted by: noonefromtampa | October 24, 2009 2:49 PM | Report abuse


"There've been a lot of requests for players from other teams' practice squads, and I know it's not a bad idea to get a young guy who might provide depth, but there's a reason they are on the practice squad--they aren't good enough to provide real help, which is what the skins' OL needs right now."

Posted by: BigE44 |

--

Well, I look at it differently.

There really isn't much out there that can help us right now, so waiting for that is just waiting for next year. Grabbing a guy like Alex Boone off of the 49ers practice squad is like getting a free early draft pick. Much the same reasoning behind grabbing Jarmon in the suplimental draft - except it's FREE.

Jarmon has performed beyond expectations, so maybe someone like Boone can be an impact guy by Decemebr. If not you get months to look at him to see if he is worth developing, if not cut him loose. You lose nothing. We don't lose a draft pick or have to trade anything to acquire him. We just have to keep him on the active roster for the season.

There's a lot of upside to this scenario, being that we pretty much need to start build a whole new O line.

(FYI: Alex Boone: 6'7" 330lb. multi-year starting left tackle for Ohio State, projected as a first day pick, then got stupid in a bar and arrested)

Posted by: edvar | October 24, 2009 2:50 PM | Report abuse

Hmmm...

1) Jason Campbell Not for big money (incentives!)
2) Todd Collins No
3) Clinton Portis No
4) Ladell Betts No
5) Rock Cartwright NO
6) Chris Cooley YES
7) Stephon Heyer BU
8) Derrick Dockery Yes
9) Casey Rabach NO Trade if possible
10) Mike Williams Bring to camp
11) Levi Jones Let see...
12) Santana Moss yes
13) ARE No
14) Devin Thomas Bring to camp
15) Malcolm Kelly Bring to camp
16) Chad Rinehart No
17) Will Montgomery BU
18) Marko Mitchell Yes
19) Fred Davis Trade is possible.

Bring to camp + let them compete for their job!

Posted by: edvar | October 24, 2009 2:56 PM | Report abuse

sorry. Bring to camp = let them compete...

Posted by: edvar | October 24, 2009 2:57 PM | Report abuse

The coaches may have their own fraternity but it ain't exactly close knit. It did not take too much to cornvince Lewis to come on board the HMS Skins to undermine one of the brothers.

Posted by: TubularBells | October 24, 2009 2:24 PM

Bingo-callers are in a different fraternity.

Posted by: League-Source | October 24, 2009 2:59 PM | Report abuse

I think it's funny how people debate on whether to re-sign Campbell. That guy is not coming back here at gunpoint.

Posted by: themantoyou | October 24, 2009 3:03 PM | Report abuse

SICWIDIT'S POLL OF DA WEEK!

If we're in rebuilding mode next year, which players on the current roster would you rebuild with, keeping in mind we need starters and depth?

Posted by: rickyroge | October 24, 2009 2:43 PM |

This little exercise doesn't mean much if you don't know who the coach and GM are. For instance, if the next coach is a hard ass then Campbell's psyche is too fragile to keep him around. On the other had if the next coach is someone who likes to nurture and mentor then mebbe you keep him.

Posted by: TubularBells | October 24, 2009 3:05 PM | Report abuse

(FYI: Alex Boone: 6'7" 330lb. multi-year starting left tackle for Ohio State, projected as a first day pick, then got stupid in a bar and arrested)

Posted by: edvar | October 24, 2009 2:50 PM |

If this turkey is as good as you claim he is then don't you think someone would have gravved him by now? Like the Eagles, who are desperate for OL?

Posted by: TubularBells | October 24, 2009 3:11 PM | Report abuse

I think it's funny how people debate on whether to re-sign Campbell. That guy is not coming back here at gunpoint.

Posted by: themantoyou | October 24, 2009 3:03 PM |

Poor guy. He's going somewhere else and it will the nth different O scheme for him in n+1 years. There is a limit to how much of this he can stand.

Posted by: TubularBells | October 24, 2009 3:14 PM | Report abuse

Tubular...

You're taking this exercise too seriously...just a little exercise on a dreary Saturday.

Posted by: rickyroge | October 24, 2009 3:31 PM | Report abuse

you guys are stupid

Posted by: hezbollaskins | October 24, 2009 2:30 PM

And obviously you are a non-journalist, or you'd know "Dog bites man" is NOT news.

Posted by: TheCork | October 24, 2009 3:32 PM | Report abuse

There were several warm greetings between Gruden and coaches, Maese tweets.

By Cindy Boren | October 24, 2009; 12:36 PM ET

Well, of course. They're all in the same fraternity. They have secret grips and special sequences of words they say to each other. As a league-source, I can tell you some of those words: "Hey!" "Good to see you again!" and the always-in-fashion, "What's up?"

Posted by: League-Source

Yes, and when they introduce coaches to each other, the term “this is a friend of ours” means this is a former Pro coach, and “this is a friend of mine” means former college coach. To former pro coaches, by the way Spurrier remains “a friend of mine.”

Posted by: TheCork | October 24, 2009 3:34 PM | Report abuse

why isn't Dan - who must have a reasonably adequate IQ - wondering why his VP of Football Operations can't multi-task, can't parallel process?

Posted by: Chasgriffen

I have a reasonably adequate IQ when it comes to football, journalism and movies, but I couldn’t tell you squat about nuclear physics or quantum mechanics.

I think we have had amply demonstrated that marketing genius Snyder should not be confused with football Babe in the Woods Snyder.

Posted by: TheCork | October 24, 2009 3:36 PM | Report abuse

Dreary?? It's 80 and sunny and the hotties are out in droves!

(well here in Hollywood anyway)

Posted by: chasgiffen | October 24, 2009 3:41 PM | Report abuse

If cap space becomes an issue next year, put Samuels on IR again to spread out the hit....(assuming he doesn't retire)

Posted by: BigE44 | October 24, 2009 2:19 PM

Brilliant! Then we can pay him his full $6 million salary for nothing. Gee, I wonder if he'd go along with this? Maybe he'd even be willing to take $5 million to give us a break for old time's sake?

Posted by: League-Source | October 24, 2009 3:48 PM | Report abuse

If this turkey is as good as you claim he is then don't you think someone would have gravved him by now? Like the Eagles, who are desperate for OL?

Posted by: TubularBells | October 24, 2009 3:11 PM |

Tube -

Normally, when you grab someone from a PS, you are trying to fill a hole right now. I am suggesting treating it like an early start at bringing in new O line help for the future.

From that standpoint, we have little to lose - except cutting Wynn...again

Consider that my post was originally in response to a post looking for immediate help. I think we can both agree that "immediate help" is pretty picked-over right now. I'm just saying we should consider looking forward as well.

Posted by: edvar | October 24, 2009 3:49 PM | Report abuse

(FYI: Alex Boone: 6'7" 330lb. multi-year starting left tackle for Ohio State, projected as a first day pick, then got stupid in a bar and arrested)

Posted by: edvar | October 24, 2009 2:50 PM |

If this turkey is as good as you claim he is then don't you think someone would have gravved him by now? Like the Eagles, who are desperate for OL?

Posted by: TubularBells | October 24, 2009 3:11 PM

Because they're not as desperate as we are. We gotta grav him before he gets all gravved up.

Posted by: League-Source | October 24, 2009 3:50 PM | Report abuse

Dreary?? It's 80 and sunny and the hotties are out in droves!

(well here in Hollywood anyway)

Posted by: chasgiffen | October 24, 2009 3:41 PM

Now here's a loser. The hotties are out and he's blogging with us? The rest of us are just blogging until the hottties come out and then we're gone. Except for Cork, of course, who has forgotten what a hottie was.

Posted by: League-Source | October 24, 2009 3:52 PM | Report abuse

Edvar,

I agree that there are some decent players out there on practice squads, who may eventually pan out as good players down the road. And I would bet that that might be the road the FO travels to fill Samuels' spot. At this point, anything to help out in the future would probably be beneficial for the team.

I guess I keep getting stuck on a veteran pick-up like Jon Runyan, who would probably be an upgrade over Heyer at RT...

Posted by: BigE44 | October 24, 2009 4:13 PM | Report abuse

Now here's a loser. The hotties are out and he's blogging with us? The rest of us are just blogging until the hottties come out and then we're gone. Except for Cork, of course, who has forgotten what a hottie was.

Posted by: League-Source

That's a gross canard. I DO too remember, I just sometimes forget what you're sposed to do with them.

That's a joke. However, i wouldn't be calling people losers or doing geezer jokes as you're the one who doesn't know they have this new technology that enables people to be outside and post on blogs.

Even I know that, old-timer.

Posted by: TheCork | October 24, 2009 4:16 PM | Report abuse

BTW, the "why hasn't another team grabbed him yet" argument is just about the laziest reasoning out there.

Who cares why other teams haven't made a move yet? Do you think all FO's operate and think the same? Do they evaluate players the same? Get a clue! They have different plans and strategies than we do. Their circumstances are different than ours. Doesn't make their thinking any better, or pose an argument for or against anything. Maybe the arrest scared them off. Who F'n cares?

The guy is a prospect. Who do you think is out there that we should be looking at instead? Can you offer a possible solution or is "So, why haven't the other guys done that yet?" the height of your contribution today?

Posted by: edvar | October 24, 2009 4:18 PM | Report abuse

I guess I keep getting stuck on a veteran pick-up like Jon Runyan, who would probably be an upgrade over Heyer at RT...

-

I keep hearing that Runyon is in pretty rough shape and could be done. Does anybody out there have any info on that. Otherwise, hell yeah - let's take a look at him

Posted by: edvar | October 24, 2009 4:22 PM | Report abuse


If cap space becomes an issue next year, put Samuels on IR again to spread out the hit....(assuming he doesn't retire)

Posted by: BigE44 | October 24, 2009 2:19 PM

Brilliant! Then we can pay him his full $6 million salary for nothing. Gee, I wonder if he'd go along with this? Maybe he'd even be willing to take $5 million to give us a break for old time's sake?

Posted by: League-Source | October 24, 2009 3:48 PM

League-Source,

I won't go into details since someone else explained this in a recent post. Samuels has over $10 million(I don't know the exact number, nor does it matter, since it is a lot) in bonuses still counting toward the cap. If he retires, all of that counts toward next years cap. If he's on the team, his cap number would be several million dollars less, which would allow for signing other players.

Posted by: BigE44 | October 24, 2009 4:25 PM | Report abuse

ESPN360 is one of the best uses of the Internet ever.

Posted by: freakzilla | October 24, 2009 4:29 PM | Report abuse

1) Jason Campbell- let go
2) Todd Collins- buhbye
3) Clinton Portis- don't let the door hit you in the ass.
4) Ladell Betts- laughing...
5) Rock Cartwright- clip'em
6) Chris Cooley- keep
7) Stephon Heyer- you are fired!
8) Derrick Dockery- keep
9) Casey Rabach- keep
10) Mike Williams- keep
11) Levi Jones-keep
12) Santana Moss- clippage
13) ARE- buhbye!
14) Devin Thomas- keep
15) Malcolm Kelly- keep
16) Chad Rinehart- clippage
17) Will Montgomery= keep
18) Marko Mitchell- make starter
19) Fred Davis- keeper

Posted by: knight1977 | October 24, 2009 4:49 PM | Report abuse

If he's on the team, his cap number would be several million dollars less, which would allow for signing other players.

Posted by: BigE44 | October 24, 2009 4:25 PM

Why do you think that, BigE44? If he's on the team, then the 'Skins have to pay his salary, around $6 million, and that counts against the cap. Plus, a prorated share of his bonuses counts against the cap. That might be a cap hit of around $9 million. The prorated share is monopoly money, but the salary is real green, and I can't see the Redskins paying Samuels all that money just to postpone a cap hit for one year.

Posted by: League-Source | October 24, 2009 5:01 PM | Report abuse

Even in an uncapped year, I wouldn't get rid of Santana Moss just yet until you get a bona fide, young, blazing fast young dude.

Posted by: rickyroge | October 24, 2009 5:06 PM | Report abuse

http://www.49ers.com/news-and-events/article-1/Road-to-the-Roster-T-Alex-Boone/6fdeeb48-34e7-4b3e-baf7-b36c7d880a06

Edvar, I completely agree this guy is an absolute no brainer pick up right now.

Make Jones T, BMW T/G, Heyer T, Boone T, Rabach C, Dockery G, Montgomery C/G, all active on gameday and leave Williams C/G, Rinehart G and Batiste T/G to fight it out for the last two roster spots.

Boone is sitting out there like delicious low hanging fruit. Damn I hope the crumbling bumbling remains of the front office are not too stupid to take a shot. There is ZERO RISK! with HUGE REWARD potential.

Posted by: SkinsfaninKaneohe | October 24, 2009 5:07 PM | Report abuse

10) Mike Williams- keep
11) Levi Jones-keep
12) Santana Moss- clippage

Posted by: knight1977 | October 24, 2009 4:49 PM


Looks like Vinny Cerrato has met his match in knight1977.

And I do mean that quite literally.

Posted by: freakzilla | October 24, 2009 5:08 PM | Report abuse

http://www.fftoolbox.com/nfl_draft/profile_display.cfm?prospect_id=1258

More Boone. Whats not to like???? In gambling terms, its a free roll.

Posted by: SkinsfaninKaneohe | October 24, 2009 5:14 PM | Report abuse

Yeah "freak",

No NFL team would keep Mike Williams.

Posted by: rickyroge | October 24, 2009 5:17 PM | Report abuse

If Samuels goes on IR....bring back AA

Posted by: pennstate1 | October 24, 2009 5:24 PM | Report abuse

The prorated share is monopoly money, but the salary is real green, and I can't see the Redskins paying Samuels all that money...

My understanding of the way NFL high finance is handled is that the team carries insurance coverage that pays the yearly salary of players on IR.
I still think it's basically irrelevant -- there has to be an uncapped year at this point -- but if not, it's not Samuels' retirement itself, but the combination of Samuels + Thomas + (let's say) Portis that would completely devastate the salary cap.

Now, if you want a real conspiracy theory, assume that the other NFL owners want to do to Danny what everyone accuses Danny of doing to Vinnie. Keep the cap and watch him squirm. It'd mean not dropping most of the players everyone wants to drop, and no ability to sign anyone above league minimum.

One of the things the Mayor might be able to report on [after the season] is if the return of the cap would allow the team to use the "June 1" two year split of cap hit (aka the reason why Lloyd is still on our cap).

Posted by: daggar | October 24, 2009 5:24 PM | Report abuse

Please no more RBs that are keeping MM off the game day roster.

Posted by: SkinsfaninKaneohe | October 24, 2009 5:25 PM | Report abuse

We need a long term solution to replace Samuels. Boone may be the answer at RT for 10 years. Maybe not. Bring him in, and find out if he is. At the very least you can find out if you have to draft two OT next spring. One is a given.

Posted by: SkinsfaninKaneohe | October 24, 2009 5:28 PM | Report abuse

BTW, the "why hasn't another team grabbed him yet" argument is just about the laziest reasoning out there.

Posted by: edvar | October 24, 2009 4:18 PM

It's not even lazy. It's a stupid Catch 22. Unless you build a roster by trading, the only players you can get are players that some other team hasn't grabbed yet. We never would have drafted Chris Samuels, because no other team had grabbed him.

Posted by: League-Source | October 24, 2009 5:29 PM | Report abuse

they have this new technology that enables people to be outside and post on blogs.

Posted by: TheCork | October 24, 2009 4:16 PM

I've used it many times myself. I take out my cel phone, call my wife, and say "Would you post this for me on Redskins Insider?"

Posted by: League-Source | October 24, 2009 5:31 PM | Report abuse

In an uncapped year, the Skins could absorb the hit of both Samuels and Thomas without blinking an eye. My guess is that Snyderrato have been banking on the upcapped year so they could release a number of veterans who still had prorated signing bonuses for 2010 and beyond. Besides Samuels, I believe Griffin, Carter, Collins, Fletcher, and Hall all could be candidates to be cut after the season if the Skins decide a complete rebuild.

As for Levi Jones, people on this blog have been talking about him since preseason when there were a lot of concerns about who was playing RT, let alone left. Don't be surprised if Jones is our starting LT by the Falcons game and Williams/Heyer are left to battle it out for RT. It's pretty pathetic that Cerrato has to hire a veteran tackle off the street when the inevitable happens.

Posted by: wizfan89 | October 24, 2009 5:32 PM | Report abuse

League-Source,

The Skins work the system every year, which is why players like Portis get all of the extra bonuses. They turn their large base salary into a bonus, which gets them their money up front, and it allows the team to spread the bonus money over the remaining years of the contract, thus reducing their cap number for the year.

If the cap were to be an issue next year, the Skins could potentially rework Samuels' contract--i.e. reduce his base salary to the vet. minimum, since he wouldn't be playing anyway. He's already received his bonus money, so anything else would be gravy.

It's a crazy idea, but so is the report that he was planning to retire at the end of the year, to he might consider retirement...

Posted by: BigE44 | October 24, 2009 5:37 PM | Report abuse

My only concern about drafting Boone was his pre-draft issues. If he's learned from that lesson getting him without wasting a pick would be a good move IMO. This quote in the first link posted by SkinsfaninKaneohe

“I knew he’d be the perfect coach to play for, because he’s a physical guy and he would keep me in line,” Boone said. “I think he’s doing a great job of that. He’s always pushing me to get better and he’s always on me saying, ‘Boone, c’mon let’s go!’”

Bugle popped into my head.

Posted by: TWISI | October 24, 2009 5:43 PM | Report abuse

Now here's a loser. The hotties are out and he's blogging with us? The rest of us are just blogging until the hottties come out and then we're gone. Except for Cork, of course, who has forgotten what a hottie was.

Posted by: League-Source
__________________________

Hmm well you're not only assuming I have to be indoors to blog as Corkie pointed out, but also assuming I don't already have hotties on the roster. FYI my drafts have been far better than Cerrato's, with exceptional talent at every position. But I will keep scouting whilst blogging from my iPhone.

Posted by: chasgiffen | October 24, 2009 5:48 PM | Report abuse

"There were several warm greetings between Gruden and coaches, Rick Maese tweets."


How would you greet the guy who has a good chance of being your boss in a few weeks?

Technically its a greeting, in practice, its part of a job interview.

Posted by: zcezcest1 | October 24, 2009 5:49 PM | Report abuse

We need a long term solution to replace Samuels. Boone may be the answer at RT for 10 years. Maybe not. Bring him in, and find out if he is. At the very least you can find out if you have to draft two OT next spring. One is a given.

Posted by: SkinsfaninKaneohe


We stand as one.

“I knew he’d be the perfect coach to play for, because he’s a physical guy and he would keep me in line,” Boone said. “I think he’s doing a great job of that. He’s always pushing me to get better and he’s always on me saying, ‘Boone, c’mon let’s go!’”

Bugle popped into my head.

Posted by: TWISI


This is what I'm saying. Let's take a chance on a spot we desperately need a long-term solution. T'is a freebie.

Posted by: edvar | October 24, 2009 5:54 PM | Report abuse

1) Jason Campbell
2) Todd Collins NO
3) Clinton Portis MAYBE
4) Ladell Betts NO
5) Rock Cartwright
6) Chris Cooley
7) Stephon Heyer
8) Derrick Dockery
9) Casey Rabach
10) Mike Williams MAYBE
11) Levi Jones MAYBE
12) Santana Moss
13) ARE
14) Devin Thomas MAYBE
15) Malcolm Kelly MAYBE
16) Chad Rinehart MAYBE
17) Will Montgomery MAYBE
18) Marko Mitchell
19) Fred Davis MAYBE

Stay tuned for defense later!

Posted by: rickyroge

If we get some decent OL in here, then the OL maybes turn to NO.

If we can get value for Fred Davis, he goes, but I doubt we get value for him. I think its time to part company with either Thomas or Kelly. Keep the one that has proven more the end of the year.

Of course, its worth noting that a bunch of older guys have recently left and we're rebuilding now. Gone are Jason Taylor, Springs, Marcus, Jansen, Samuels, R Thomas and Kendall. Given there are about 30 guys in the rotation, that's 25% gone in one year.

Posted by: zcezcest1 | October 24, 2009 5:57 PM | Report abuse

FYI my drafts have been far better than Cerrato's, with exceptional talent at every position.

Posted by: chasgiffen | October 24, 2009 5:48 PM |

Yeah, Cork set me straight. But Cerrato drafted two wide receivers and a tight end. Not bad for a day's work.

What's this iPhone you speak of?

Posted by: League-Source | October 24, 2009 6:02 PM | Report abuse

I think i suffer from battered-fan syndrome...throughout the week the anger of the losses festers in me, but come sunday i'm right back out there on the edge of my seat...hoping...i like to think its optimism, but now i'm not so sure

Posted by: altarkenton | October 24, 2009 6:03 PM | Report abuse

1) Jason Campbell--gone, unless uncapped year--I had heard that an uncapped year will add a year to those who are in the last year of their rookie contract--please correct me if I am wrong
2) Todd Collins----yes, reasonably priced back-up
3) Clinton Portis--yes, one more year
4) Ladell Betts--yes, one more year
5) Rock Cartwright--no
6) Chris Cooley--yes
7) Stephon Heyer--yes, back-up
8) Derrick Dockery--yes
9) Casey Rabach--yes, one more year
10) Mike Williams--no
11) Levi Jones--yes, if he plays well
12) Santana Moss--yes
13) ARE--no
14) Devin Thomas--yes, one last chance
15) Malcolm Kelly--yes, one last chance
16) Chad Rinehart--no
17) Will Montgomery--yes, he's cheap
18) Marko Mitchell--yes
19) Fred Davis--yes, he's cheap

Posted by: BigE44 | October 24, 2009 6:19 PM | Report abuse

My only concern about drafting Boone was his pre-draft issues. If he's learned from that lesson getting him without wasting a pick would be a good move IMO.

Posted by: TWISI | October 24, 2009 5:43 PM |

The thing about Boone is his history of substance abuse. Mebbe he has cleaned up but he can always fall off the wagon so it's a big risk. Him being on a practice squad isn't so much for developmental reasons as it is to see if he can stay clean. Those who talk of bringing him in to see what he can do for the rest of the season have missed the implications of this point entirely.

Posted by: TubularBells | October 24, 2009 6:20 PM | Report abuse

come sunday i'm right back out there on the edge of my seat...hoping...i like to think its optimism, but now i'm not so sure

Posted by: altarkenton | October 24, 2009 6:03 PM

So, you've come to us as your support group, battered fan? I can offer you hope for this Sunday. You're safe among us. Monday night, though, all bets are off.

Posted by: League-Source | October 24, 2009 6:22 PM | Report abuse

"The thing about Boone is his history of substance abuse. Mebbe he has cleaned up but he can always fall off the wagon so it's a big risk. Him being on a practice squad isn't so much for developmental reasons as it is to see if he can stay clean. Those who talk of bringing him in to see what he can do for the rest of the season have missed the implications of this point entirely."

That is the risk with Boone and it's well documented.

I think the best way to evaluate him is to bring him in and watch him at close range. I'm not sure why you think we have missed those implications by tacking a chance on him. That's why it's called "taking a chance". Waiting a couple of years to find out doesn't make any sense because the opportunity window is now. He is exposed.

We are either willing to take a chance now for free given his upside, or forget about it and use draft picks and/or FA next year.

Given his upside, and our rebuilding needs, it seems like it's worth a try.

Posted by: edvar | October 24, 2009 6:37 PM | Report abuse

On the stenosis front: Samuels' condition must be pretty advanced for the docs to recommend immediate retirement. Ordinarily they don't. Of course, with the congenital sort, you get a wide variety of symptoms and prognoses based on what the rays reveal.

I've come across several persons with congenital stenosis who ultimately had surgical interventions and went back (after rehab) to play at a high level. Of course, none were football players. That's a whole other level of physical stress.

Posted by: Samson151 | October 24, 2009 6:38 PM | Report abuse

If there was a way to do it, I'd keep Cooley, Moss, Mitchell, and maybe Montgomery as a back up. Everyone else would be given IHOP gift certificates.

Posted by: bostskin | October 24, 2009 6:48 PM | Report abuse

they have this new technology that enables people to be outside and post on blogs.

Posted by: TheCork | October 24, 2009 4:16 PM

I've used it many times myself. I take out my cel phone, call my wife, and say "Would you post this for me on Redskins Insider?"

Posted by: League-Source

I confess I use that technique myself. Your wife says "hi" by the way.

Posted by: TheCork | October 24, 2009 6:49 PM | Report abuse

Nice to know "The Mayor" got his information from Zorn, not a "source". Me thinks Reid's source is Dionne Warwick. What a joke.

Posted by: BiggeeC | October 24, 2009 6:52 PM | Report abuse

If Samuels goes on IR ... bring back AA

Posted by: pennstate1 | October 24, 2009 5:24 PM

Anthony Alridge?
Adam Archuleta?
Alcoholics Anonymous?

Posted by: dcsween | October 24, 2009 6:54 PM | Report abuse

Bugle popped into my head.

Posted by: TWISI | October 24, 2009 5:43 PM | Report abuse

LOL me too TWISI

Posted by: SkinsfaninKaneohe | October 24, 2009 6:55 PM | Report abuse

Hell bring in Boone, and make sure he goes to AA.

Posted by: SkinsfaninKaneohe | October 24, 2009 6:59 PM | Report abuse

Bugle popped into my head.

Posted by: TWISI
____________________

A bugle playing Taps pops into my head when I watch the Skins.

Posted by: chasgiffen | October 24, 2009 7:00 PM | Report abuse

Bugle popped into my head.

Ouch, that sounds painful. I saw where this one time, at band camp, a bugle popped somewhere else...

Posted by: daggar | October 24, 2009 7:02 PM | Report abuse

If Samuels goes on IR ... bring back AA

Posted by: pennstate1 | October 24, 2009 5:24 PM

Anthony Alridge?
Adam Archuleta?
Alcoholics Anonymous
====obviously you've been out of the loop...AA is Anthony Aldridge...the only RB with 4.3 speed on the skins roster

Posted by: pennstate1 | October 24, 2009 7:03 PM | Report abuse

Given his upside, and our rebuilding needs, it seems like it's worth a try.

Posted by: edvar | October 24, 2009 6:37 PM |

You missed the point. It probably would take at least a year of patience to see if he has stabilized his addiction problem and even then you don't know. As a raw talent is he worth it? Probably not. Didn't follow him at the Combine if he was there. There are character issues, wasted resources if he doesn't pan out and I don't think from a talent perspective he is worth the risk. If he didn't have the addiction problem he would probably be another Phil Loadholt - big and rangy with good push but not quick enough to handle above average edge rushers.

Posted by: TubularBells | October 24, 2009 7:03 PM | Report abuse

Your wife says "hi" by the way.

Posted by: TheCork | October 24, 2009 6:49 PM

That's the most civil thing she's said to me in October.

Posted by: League-Source | October 24, 2009 7:03 PM | Report abuse

FYI Edvar, I agree with what you say above re: Boone. What's wrong with trying new matadors? It couldn't be any worse. Same with Kendall and Runyon, bring them in, no guaranteed money, see what they gots. We should be bringing them in like Chucky used to bring in QB's in Tampa...

Posted by: chasgiffen | October 24, 2009 7:05 PM | Report abuse

====obviously you've been out of the loop...AA is Anthony Aldridge...the only RB with 4.3 speed on the skins roster....that was on the roster, that is

Posted by: pennstate1 | October 24, 2009 7:05 PM | Report abuse

...AA is Anthony Aldridge...the only RB with 4.3 speed on the skins roster


Posted by: pennstate1 | October 24, 2009 7:03 PM |

Is 4.3 his foot speed or the speed that the ball pops out of his grip?

Posted by: TubularBells | October 24, 2009 7:06 PM | Report abuse

... AA is Anthony Aldridge...the only RB with 4.3 speed on the skins roster

Posted by: pennstate1 | October 24, 2009 7:03 PM

Fast ... and ready to replace Betts on the other thing Betts does a lot ...

Posted by: dcsween | October 24, 2009 7:07 PM | Report abuse

...AA is Anthony Aldridge...the only RB with 4.3 speed on the skins roster

Hmm, part of that statement is incorrect. Your homework is to figure out which part.

Posted by: daggar | October 24, 2009 7:08 PM | Report abuse

...AA is Anthony Aldridge...the only RB with 4.3 speed on the skins roster

Hmm, part of that statement is incorrect. Your homework is to figure out which part.

Posted by: daggar | October 24, 2009 7:08 PM
====
check out 7:05pm

Posted by: pennstate1 | October 24, 2009 7:11 PM | Report abuse

====obviously you've been out of the loop...AA is Anthony Aldridge...the only RB with 4.3 speed on the skins roster....that was on the roster, that is

Posted by: pennstate1 | October 24, 2009

You know what if he can't block and he can't tackle he's pretty worthless on special teams ... and the number of snaps praying there won't be a fumble? Unless HE PLAYS OR CAN Learn to PLAY CORNERBACK with that speed he's worthless to this team. Because a cornerback with a surly attitude on game day is what they need with that speed not a 2-bit part-time running back. Okay? Clearly a Danny and Vinny choice for the roster as opposed to the coaching staff ... sigh ...

Posted by: periculum | October 24, 2009 7:12 PM | Report abuse

yes, well I'm a slow typist.

But you get a gold star, and a smiley face.
I might even have a Hanna Montana sticker here in the drawer somewhere.

Posted by: daggar | October 24, 2009 7:14 PM | Report abuse

Addiction??? You make it sound like he was spiking smack all day, or eating oxy with a 'driver chaser for breakfast.

He gets out of control when he drinks. He cost himself lots of money, and apparently rededicated himself to football and achieving what he can while maintaining complete sobriety. He is reportedly very intelligent, puts in lots of off duty time in the film room, and steamrolls people in the running game at the line and down field.

In case you haven't noticed, the Redskin line sucked, and then Thomas and Samuels both went down. Redskins are not in any position to be wringing their hands or being picky about who they bring in. They got a guy to drop a 100 pounds to start this year.

I really don't think taking a free roll chance on an all Big 10 OT (Jon Jansen ring a bell? anyone remember him?) guy who, get this, went on a couple drunken benders in college.

Its not like he is a Pro Bowl FB who got busted rollin' with 4 blunts and an 8 ball.

Posted by: SkinsfaninKaneohe | October 24, 2009 7:15 PM | Report abuse

Your wife says "hi" by the way.

Posted by: TheCork | October 24, 2009 6:49 PM

Since you are in the business of telling us what our wives are saying, I got a guy sitting next to me here who has a late night talk show on CBS and he wants to know what his wife is saying and he doesn't think it is "hi".

Posted by: TubularBells | October 24, 2009 7:15 PM | Report abuse

Anthony Alridge has the smoothest transition of the ball from right hand to turf at the three yard line that Al Saunders has ever seen.

Posted by: daggar | October 24, 2009 7:16 PM | Report abuse

Damned I thought for sure Danny would fire Zorn by the 3rd or 4th game. No accounting for some voice of reason that somehow prevailed on him ... but for how long? Danny must be hurting if he is worried about Zorn's guaranteed pay day.

Posted by: periculum | October 24, 2009 7:18 PM | Report abuse

You know what if he can't block and he can't tackle he's pretty worthless on special teams ... and the number of snaps praying there won't be a fumble? Unless HE PLAYS OR CAN Learn to PLAY CORNERBACK with that speed he's worthless to this team. Because a cornerback with a surly attitude on game day is what they need with that speed not a 2-bit part-time running back. Okay? Clearly a Danny and Vinny choice for the roster as opposed to the coaching staff ... sigh ...

Posted by: periculum
====
what's with this defeatist attitude..What if he fumbles...what if he can't block...the sky is falling. What about small fast RB's that have proven their value such as Warwick Dunn, Chris Johnson…Hell how about Joe Washington. These guys were all given a chance and produced. What if Anthony Aldridge is given a chance?

Posted by: pennstate1 | October 24, 2009 7:19 PM | Report abuse

Since you are in the business of telling us what our wives are saying, I got a guy sitting next to me here who has a late night talk show on CBS and he wants to know what his wife is saying and he doesn't think it is "hi".

Hmmm, I suspect if she isn't thinking about shoe shopping for Fall she is probably thinking that she has another 'child' she has to nurture and take care of. And that bonehead doesn't tell her she has attractive footwear and smells nice often enough.

Posted by: periculum | October 24, 2009 7:21 PM | Report abuse

Well, the AA jerseys are sitting in their boxes, 6 Flags is facing the off season, and lots of folks don't have the spare coin to go grab a burger at Johnny Rockets.

Besides, Shanny turned him down twice, Gruden's got a job through week 17 at least, Holmgren is waiting to get the down low from ShLewis and fo Vinny to get run, and its not like Cowher is gonna come up here in October.

Posted by: SkinsfaninKaneohe | October 24, 2009 7:24 PM | Report abuse

I really don't think taking a free roll chance on an all Big 10 OT (Jon Jansen ring a bell? anyone remember him?) guy who, get this, went on a couple drunken benders in college.

Posted by: SkinsfaninKaneohe | October 24, 2009 7:15 PM |

It was more than a couple of benders. The guy is a serious alcoholic. And I don't think the Skins owner would feel too good if he picked up a WaPo to wrap his fish or line his bird cage and saw a front page article about how it took 4 bouncers and using their tazers to subdue the dude after he trashed a bar in Alexandria.

Posted by: TubularBells | October 24, 2009 7:26 PM | Report abuse

what's with this defeatist attitude..What if he fumbles...what if he can't block...the sky is falling.

Clearly missing the point which the coaching staff is painfully aware of: again they don't need a smallish running back who fumble a lot, can't block and tackle who would mostly sit on the bench. This is the time of year when starters often volunteer to do special teams when the team is hurting there. As far as playing I imagine his speed would DO ABSOLUTELY NO GOOD, were to act as a revolving door for defensive lineman to get to the quarterback. And dude, hello dude? Offensive lineman have little respect for running backs who don't chip in and help with the blocking. None. They are usually less than enthusiastic about blocking for those losers. Okay

Posted by: periculum | October 24, 2009 7:26 PM | Report abuse

Clearly missing the point which the coaching staff is painfully aware of: again they don't need a smallish running back who fumble a lot, can't block and tackle who would mostly sit on the bench. This is the time of year when starters often volunteer to do special teams when the team is hurting there. As far as playing I imagine his speed would DO ABSOLUTELY NO GOOD, were to act as a revolving door for defensive lineman to get to the quarterback. And dude, hello dude? Offensive lineman have little respect for running backs who don't chip in and help with the blocking. None. They are usually less than enthusiastic about blocking for those losers. Okay
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How many AA fumbles have you actually witness?....How many Clinton Portis fumbles have you witness?...How many Ladell Betts fumbles have you witness?

Posted by: pennstate1 | October 24, 2009 7:29 PM | Report abuse

....and we're not talking about AA being a starter but a change of pace back who can add some speed to this slow ass backfield.

Posted by: pennstate1 | October 24, 2009 7:31 PM | Report abuse

Alex Boone is probably better than 3 of Skins active offensive linemen. Some other players that are worth a look: Milford Brown, Dan Buenning, Anthony Davis (showed potential at one time), Paul Fanaika, George Foster, Eric Ghiaciuc, and Terrence Metcalf. NFL Players: http://tinyurl.com/pwtpx9

Posted by: fwroy | October 24, 2009 7:32 PM | Report abuse

Alex Boone is probably better than 3 of Skins active offensive linemen. Some other players that are worth a look: Milford Brown, Dan Buenning, Anthony Davis (showed potential at one time), Paul Fanaika, George Foster, Eric Ghiaciuc, and Terrence Metcalf. NFL Players: http://tinyurl.com/pwtpx9

Posted by: fwroy | October 24, 2009 7:33 PM | Report abuse

1) Jason Campbell--gone, unless uncapped year--I had heard that an uncapped year will add a year to those who are in the last year of their rookie contract--please correct me if I am wrong
2) Todd Collins----yes, reasonably priced back-up
3) Clinton Portis--yes, one more year
4) Ladell Betts--yes, one more year
5) Rock Cartwright--no
6) Chris Cooley--yes
7) Stephon Heyer--yes, back-up
8) Derrick Dockery--yes
9) Casey Rabach--yes, one more year
10) Mike Williams--no
11) Levi Jones--yes, if he plays well
12) Santana Moss--yes
13) ARE--no
14) Devin Thomas--yes, one last chance
15) Malcolm Kelly--yes, one last chance
16) Chad Rinehart--no
17) Will Montgomery--yes, he's cheap
18) Marko Mitchell--yes
19) Fred Davis--yes, he's cheap

Posted by: BigE44 | October 24, 2009 6:19 PM | Report abuse

________________________________________

I think your right about Campbell... but I don't think he should be our starting QB.

Regarding our #2's from last year, they are 2nd rounders & Thomas is very young, gotta have some patience... plus until the O-line, QB, & scheme is fixed, we really don't know what we have there.

I believe we will have a new Front Office structure & coach after this year... You can't keep putting band-aids on this thing... For discipline reasons, first move of new regime should be to cut Portis, make him a casualty of war to show that Dan Snyder is no longer the GM of this team... I'd say the Cutler trade worked pretty well for Josh McDaniels.

You'll probably hear me say this over & over regarding Denver... I bet everyone would of thought they were gonna be terrible with everything that happened toward the beginning of the season, but they stuck to their guns regarding Marshall and they are going to go to the Playoffs... once again Norv Turner's team will under achieve and may not win their division. It's no secret, structure & discipline from the FO on down is how you win, not $$$.

Posted by: tony325 | October 24, 2009 7:39 PM | Report abuse

I'm optimistic about the offense. Hopefully Sherm Lewis uses his personnel better than Zorn and de-emphasizes Moss' role in the passing game. Cerrato should also let Lewis select which offensive players dress for the game.

Posted by: coparker5 | October 24, 2009 7:46 PM | Report abuse

...and we're not talking about AA being a starter but a change of pace back who can add some speed to this slow ass backfield.

In today's game if you're not a starter, and you are what amounts to a rookie, and you can't block and tackle it means you can't play on the special teams. in other words: WORTHLESS!

Posted by: periculum | October 24, 2009 7:53 PM | Report abuse

When Samuels goes on the IR they will likely sign another offensive lineman as they should.

Posted by: periculum | October 24, 2009 7:54 PM | Report abuse

(FYI: Alex Boone: 6'7" 330lb. multi-year starting left tackle for Ohio State, projected as a first day pick, then got stupid in a bar and arrested)

Posted by: edvar | October 24, 2009 2:50 PM |


Let me correct a couple typos:

FYI: Alex Boone: 6'7" 330lb. multi-year starting left tackle for Ohio State, projected as a first day pick, then played against an SEC team and the DEs ran by him like he was standing still, scouts realized he was just another overrated schmuck from the overrated Big 10 and didn't stand a chance against NFL-caliber rushers

Posted by: p1funk | October 24, 2009 7:56 PM | Report abuse

When Samuels goes on the IR they will likely sign another offensive lineman as they should.

Posted by: periculum | October 24, 2009 7:54 PM | Report abuse


Actually when Smauels goes on IR, they are going to sign Renaldo Wynn...

...yes, I know he's already on the team but they are going to give him 2 roster spots just in case they bring back Count Pakula to punt...

...or they re-sign Alridge with a clause in his contract that expressly forbids him from ever playing in a game...

Posted by: p1funk | October 24, 2009 7:58 PM | Report abuse

I'm optimistic about the offense. Hopefully Sherm Lewis uses his personnel better than Zorn and de-emphasizes Moss' role in the passing game. Cerrato should also let Lewis select which offensive players dress for the game.

Posted by: coparker5 | October 24, 2009 7:46 PM |

JBYM, I think Z's input has been reduced to selecting the outfits the coaching staff will wear on the sideline on gameday.

Posted by: TubularBells | October 24, 2009 8:01 PM | Report abuse

Apparently this Alex Boone guy admitted to drinking "30-40" beers a day. "Asked if he believes that he has a problem, Boone said: ''Drinking every day, no, I don't. I've obviously abused it once or twice.''

http://www.ohio.com/sports/osu/39878257.html

He doesn't recognize his disease after two drunken arrests, beginning drinking at age 14, and admitting to drinking 30-40 beers a day. Can anyone say Maurice Clarette?

Um, No thanks.

Let's just suck this year and take Okung next year draft.

Posted by: brianearman | October 24, 2009 8:01 PM | Report abuse

In today's game if you're not a starter, and you are what amounts to a rookie, and you can't block and tackle it means you can't play on the special teams. in other words: WORTHLESS!


Posted by: periculum | October 24, 2009 7:53 PM
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well i guess well continue with clinton runs left for 1 yard...then clinton up the middle for 1 yard...3rd and 8....yeah that sounds like a plan...DUDE

Posted by: pennstate1 | October 24, 2009 8:04 PM | Report abuse

You'll probably hear me say this over & over regarding Denver... I bet everyone would of thought they were gonna be terrible with everything that happened toward the beginning of the season, but they stuck to their guns regarding Marshall and they are going to go to the Playoffs...

Posted by: tony325 | October 24, 2009 7:39 PM |

Denver:

(Young HC O whiz) + (old fart DC) = Success

NO:

(Young HC O whiz) + (old fart DC) = Success

Skins:

???

Posted by: TubularBells | October 24, 2009 8:09 PM | Report abuse

well i guess well continue with clinton runs left for 1 yard...then clinton up the middle for 1 yard...3rd and 8....yeah that sounds like a plan...DUDE

Posted by: pennstate1 | October 24, 2009 8:04 PM | Report abuse
_________________________________________

Everyone keeps talkin' about Anthony Aldridge... WTF did he ever accomplish? Trung Candidate was fast too...

He obviously hasn't performed well enough in practice to be trusted in a live game situation... how many other teams have cut him?

Posted by: tony325 | October 24, 2009 8:22 PM | Report abuse

Guess we'll have to agree to disagree. Taking a shot on Boone is almost mandatory in my view.
I see zero downside at this juncture. He falls off the wagon, or cant get it done on the field, run him. No worse than where you started.

Posted by: SkinsfaninKaneohe | October 24, 2009 8:25 PM | Report abuse

take okung, bring in chris peterson from boise, and see if colt b can toss like he did in college

Posted by: mohawk44 | October 24, 2009 8:30 PM | Report abuse

Everyone keeps talkin' about Anthony Aldridge... WTF did he ever accomplish? Trung Candidate was fast too...

He obviously hasn't performed well enough in practice to be trusted in a live game situation... how many other teams have cut him?

Posted by: tony325 | October 24, 2009 8:22 PM
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one team cut him due to injury...Denver. WTF did Chris Johnson accomplish before he was given a chance? WTF did Warwick Dunn accomplish before he was given a chance? The skins have a history of not giving players a chance and they are doing the same with Marko Mitchell

Posted by: pennstate1 | October 24, 2009 8:35 PM | Report abuse

Skins:

???

Posted by: TubularBells | October 24, 2009 8:09 PM | Report abuse

SKINS:

no discipline owner + no discipline GM =

EPIC FAILURE!!!!!!!!!

The guy in charge has to be able to tell the owner, the players, the coach.... NO! unless that guy is the coach.

Posted by: tony325 | October 24, 2009 8:36 PM | Report abuse

This is the thing. IF you take a shot on Boone, and it works out, you can go Okung, then SS LB or RB with the second pick instead of having to go OL, OL.

Posted by: SkinsfaninKaneohe | October 24, 2009 8:37 PM | Report abuse

Too Bad Vinny can't go on IR.

Posted by: jmy999 | October 24, 2009 8:44 PM | Report abuse

With Boone it all comes down to risk tolerance. I think he is worth a look. Tube does not.

The possibility that he might fall off the wagon in a couple of years to me is very negative thinking. That's like not taking any flashy young talent and paying them well because they will just go out and party all the time. There is always risk. Besides, they have these things called contracts where you can put in language that protects you from such behavior.

Maybe he will grow up and act like a pro. I think he could make a great RT, even if funk won't forgive him for a bad game.

And it's FREE.

Posted by: edvar | October 24, 2009 8:45 PM | Report abuse

Here's someone on the Charges PS, Corey Clark, that could be a find. The Chargers have a talented OT's so this guy might have potential.

http://sdg.scout.com/2/865986.html

Posted by: TWISI | October 24, 2009 8:51 PM | Report abuse

TWISI - another good find. Makes you wonder why the FO is sitting on their hands...

Posted by: edvar | October 24, 2009 8:56 PM | Report abuse

Makes you wonder why the FO is sitting on their hands...

Interesting, since the director of pro scouting is none other than the guy Hamster Nation has anointed as the 'competent one', Morocco Brown.

Posted by: daggar | October 24, 2009 9:21 PM | Report abuse

Makes you wonder why the FO is sitting on their hands...

Interesting, since the director of pro scouting is none other than the guy Hamster Nation has anointed as the 'competent one', Morocco Brown.

Posted by: daggar | October 24, 2009 9:21 PM | Report abuse

take okung, bring in chris peterson from boise, and see if colt b can toss like he did in college

Posted by: mohawk44 | October 24, 2009 8:30 PM |

1. Okung. Check.
2. Peterson. I'd go with either Brian Kelly from Cincy or Urban Meyer from FL ahead of Petey from BS.
3. Colt B. Fuggedaboudtit. One of Z's many brain farts.

Posted by: TubularBells | October 24, 2009 9:22 PM | Report abuse

Makes you wonder why the FO is sitting on their hands...

Interesting, since the director of pro scouting is none other than the guy Hamster Nation has anointed as the 'competent one', Morocco Brown.

Posted by: daggar | October 24, 2009 9:21 PM |

One of the points that JJ made in his Redskin rant on the Fox pregame 2 weeks ago whas that the FO did not listen to the intel provided by the scouts.

Posted by: TubularBells | October 24, 2009 9:27 PM | Report abuse

i dont understand all these calls to hire Gruden. He took a superbowl team and what did he do with it?
If he's that good why TB kicked him out?

Posted by: thor2 | October 24, 2009 9:49 PM | Report abuse

Gruden makes sense in that we need a QB, and Gruden had every single useless, moron, backup QB on his roster last year. Who says you have to pick just one.

As for Jimmy, in between hair gel appointments and taking the houseboat out on the river, I'm just not sure how he has the time to monitor the internal communications of the skins. If anything, the fiesta trio would be an indication that they pay too much attention to the scouts.

Posted by: daggar | October 24, 2009 10:10 PM | Report abuse

Does anybody know that website that streams college games? Something boomerang.something or slingblade. or something like that?

Posted by: dcsween | October 24, 2009 10:19 PM | Report abuse

Some other players that are worth a look: Milford Brown, Dan Buenning, Anthony Davis (showed potential at one time), Paul Fanaika, George Foster, Eric Ghiaciuc, and Terrence Metcalf.

Posted by: fwroy | October 24, 2009 7:32 PM

Isn't George Foster the one who lost his job to Jon Jansen ... on the Lions?

Gruden inherited the team Dungy built, which made Gruden look good at the start of his coaching career. Jimmy Jones minus Aikman = Shanahan minus Elway ... the game passed both of them by when their QBs moved on. The only possible plausible dream move that could both work and happen is the one where Gibbs becomes The Owner's Parcells and fires Vinny and goes from there.

Has anyone figured out yet what happens with dead cap space in an uncapped year? Portis' contract (not unlike Samuels' and frankly all contracts of that size) is an anchor on re-building toward reality, sanity, and an actual football team.

Posted by: dcsween | October 24, 2009 10:26 PM | Report abuse

Colt has everything JC doesn't: stones, moxy, gunslinger mentality, whatever you want to call it. The Kid is a playmaker. What remains to be seen is if he can mature into eating it and throwing it away when that is the play. He is a great option to challenge for starter next year assuming that JC has disproven his ability to be anything more than what he is now.

Much, much, much , much rather see us "make do" with him vice drafting one of these supposed wonderboys in the first round. We need to get the beef upfront at multiple spots, a SS backer, a RB, FS or CB.... ONLY THEN can an intelligent redskin front office consider making a move for a QB.

Boone now, Okung, and best RB on the board in round 2 would be a good start as far as I'm concerned.

Posted by: SkinsfaninKaneohe | October 24, 2009 10:54 PM | Report abuse

trade down from our probable top 3 pick to get okung and another starting caliber ot in the trade

Posted by: mohawk44 | October 24, 2009 11:06 PM | Report abuse

You know, after three years of fans here telling SNYDER and his bag-man to draft first rate offensive line-men, maybe the idea had finally matured in DANO's pea-brain that a dominant O-line is as big a factor in championships as a dominant D-line.

Posted by: glawrence007 | October 24, 2009 11:13 PM | Report abuse

The problem with the Redskins is not Coach Zorn. The problem is the quarterback Campbell. As long as he is quarterback, the Redskins will not be a winning team. If Lewis plays Campbell, he is doing no better than Zorn.

Posted by: wls410 | October 24, 2009 11:20 PM | Report abuse

Not against a trade down... it all depends on where we end up. Love to pick up another top 64 pick and say a 3rd in exchange for our number 3 overall. Of primary importance is ensuring we don't get too cute and miss on THE STUD OT... whoever that is.

Posted by: SkinsfaninKaneohe | October 24, 2009 11:21 PM | Report abuse

maybe they will look for a new QB in another senior citizens place...

Posted by: joek443 | October 24, 2009 11:24 PM | Report abuse

For those of you who think the Redskins should be searching everywhere for offensive line depth, I am with you, but here is something to consider. We usually hear about every Tom, Dick and Harry that comes to Redskins park for a workout. Hear the crickets chirping? That's because no one is being worked out. The Redskins have the laziest front office in the league. Vinny and crew don't even know what is out there.

Bobby Beathard used to have guys in all of the time, and every once in awhile he would uncover a midseason diamond. Vinny sits on his butt all day and then lets the coach take the heat for the crappy personnel.

Glen Coffee is tearing it up for San Francisco, but he started out the season on their developmental roster and Vinny could have signed him to the regular roster. Instead, the Vinster signs Mr. Fumble Anthony Alridge and when that doesn't work he ends up signing a running back that couldn't make the roster of the lowly Titans. Chris Samuels had to get a career ending injury before Levi Jones was signed. The front office is pathetic. It's their job to build the roster and that includes during the regular season. It's just not getting done. Vinny has passed up on several chances to improve the offensive line, and yet he elected to stand pat, so if you think Vinny is going to go out there and get some more help, please don't hold your breath...

Posted by: RedSkinHead | October 24, 2009 11:43 PM | Report abuse

There are positive signs that Sherm Lewis is getting comfortable again: He's saying that he should have been calling plays after only one week with the team, not two.

Posted by: josettes | October 25, 2009 1:48 AM | Report abuse

Apparently the Post is a Saints newspaper now?

Anything they can do to paint the Skins organization in a negative light.

So much for unbiased journalism.

Posted by: Rypien11 | October 25, 2009 2:15 AM | Report abuse

Just looked at several 2010 mock drafts... looks like 1/3 of the 1st round is expected to be QB's and OT's, with as many as 5 or 6 QB's going. Bodes well for the Skins.

Posted by: chasgiffen | October 25, 2009 3:33 AM | Report abuse

looks like 1/3 of the 1st round is expected to be QB's and OT's, with as many as 5 or 6 QB's going. Bodes well for the Skins.

Posted by: chasgiffen | October 25, 2009 3:33 AM

This means we will pick the best LB in the draft!

Posted by: League-Source | October 25, 2009 6:38 AM | Report abuse

Attitude -- that's 90 percent what he's brought," defensive tackle Sedrick Ellis said about Gwilliams. "Attitude. Attitude. Attitude."

This is exactly what the Redskins are missing. Instead of confidence, they have paralysis and there are two people to blame - Mr and Mrs Synderatto.

Posted by: donsilvester | October 25, 2009 7:43 AM | Report abuse

there are two people to blame - Mr and Mrs Synderatto.

Posted by: donsilvester | October 25, 2009 7:43 AM

A day without blame is like a rock concert without electricity.

Posted by: League-Source | October 25, 2009 7:57 AM | Report abuse

This from an article on the NFL salary cap on page W14 of the Friday Wall Street Journal:

Joe Mendes, who worked as a capologist for the Washington Redskins, says ultimately money alone will never win a championship. It's "culture and personality of the franchise," that matters.

Posted by: League-Source | October 25, 2009 8:15 AM | Report abuse

Levi Jones could not make it in Detroit. I would venture a guess that he is terrible. Fact is..there are no O linemen out there.
I see a 2-14 year FOR THE B&G!

Posted by: blazerguy234 | October 25, 2009 8:30 AM | Report abuse

Glen Coffee is tearing it up for San Francisco, but he started out the season on their developmental roster and Vinny could have signed him to the regular roster. Instead, the Vinster signs Mr. Fumble Anthony Alridge and when that doesn't work he ends up signing a running back that couldn't make the roster of the lowly Titans. Chris Samuels had to get a career ending injury before Levi Jones was signed. The front office is pathetic. It's their job to build the roster and that includes during the regular season. It's just not getting done. Vinny has passed up on several chances to improve the offensive line, and yet he elected to stand pat, so if you think Vinny is going to go out there and get some more help, please don't hold your breath...

Posted by: RedSkinHead | October 24, 2009 11:43 PM | Report abuse

Don't think that at all. Think SNYDER finally can see the ruinious moves of "MY BAG-MAN" VINNIE. He's on the train with ZORN and CAMPBELL out of town.

Posted by: glawrence007 | October 25, 2009 8:38 AM | Report abuse

I hope Colt is given a chance to compete for the starting job next year. He will just need to show he is up to the task during preseason unlike this year. The Skins will not go far with Campbell regardless of who the coach is.

Posted by: BacktoGlory | October 25, 2009 8:39 AM | Report abuse

The Skins will not go far with Campbell regardless of who the coach is.

Posted by: BacktoGlory | October 25, 2009 8:39 AM |

None of this year's QBs will be on the roster next year. We'll be starting from scratch with a new coach.

Posted by: League-Source | October 25, 2009 8:51 AM | Report abuse

Attitude -- that's 90 percent what he's brought," defensive tackle Sedrick Ellis said about Gwilliams. "Attitude. Attitude. Attitude."

This is exactly what the Redskins are missing. Instead of confidence, they have paralysis and there are two people to blame - Mr and Mrs Synderatto.


Posted by: donsilvester | October 25, 2009 7:43 AM | Report abuse

Give me a fuggin break! Gregg Williams did much for the Redskins, but can we please stop it with making martyrs of every ex-Redskin!

Gregg Williams got ripped continuously on these blogs and by the post for his "arrogance". Remember your criticisms of him for Antonio Pierce, Ryan Clark and Adam Archuleta.

Next...I guess we're cry a new river for Al Saunders!

Posted by: rickyroge | October 25, 2009 9:02 AM | Report abuse

None of this year's QBs will be on the roster next year. We'll be starting from scratch with a new coach.

Posted by: League-Source | October 25, 2009 8:51 AM

That could be true. It all depends on the new coach's assessment of the current group of QB's. I think Campbell and Collins are gone next year and Colt will be given a chance to compete. Whether he makes the team or not is a different story...

Posted by: BacktoGlory | October 25, 2009 9:08 AM | Report abuse

Next...I guess we're cry a new river for Al Saunders!

Posted by: rickyroge | October 25, 2009 9:02 AM


Ahh Saunders... Do you not see how the Ravens are scoring this year? Cam Cameron obviously deserves most of the credit, but the Ravens are a different team offensively this year. Saunders was crappy when he was here but he sure is doing well in Baltimore.

Posted by: BacktoGlory | October 25, 2009 9:12 AM | Report abuse

beep beep

Posted by: League-Source | October 25, 2009 9:21 AM | Report abuse

JC will be begging the skins to sign him because no other team will. he will offer snyder to sign him as 3rd string for a dollar fifty per game. he knows he can not learn another offensive scheme.

Posted by: rls1041 | October 25, 2009 9:37 AM | Report abuse

"but there's a reason they are on the practice squad--they aren't good enough to provide real help, which is what the skins' OL needs right now.

Posted by: BigE44 | October 24, 2009 2:21 PM "

I'm going to throw the B-S flag, give you the benefit of the doubt, and say you just didn't really think this statement out fully.

Couldn't it be that SOME teams have good to great O-lines, and they MIGHT have players who aren't YET better than their pro-bowl starters, but are too good to just give away to other teams?

Wouldn't YOU put such a player on the practice squad in case you had to go to your backups...in case you had more than TWO injuries on the o-line...you know what, that happens to teams...we know that all to well, now don't we?

Posted by: ThinkingMan | October 25, 2009 11:53 AM | Report abuse

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