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Seahawks hire Sherman Smith to coach running backs

Former Redskins offensive coordinator Sherman Smith was hired today as the Seattle Seahawks' running backs coach.

"I really like what [new Seattle Coach] Pete Carroll had to say and what they're trying to do here," Smith said before boarding a plane to return from Seattle. "Pete is the real deal and they want to do it the right way. They have no illusions.

"Pete said he knows we need to get some more talent, but he's going to get it done. They want to take the time to build something. It just seems like a really good situation, and I'm excited to be part of it."

For the last two seasons, Smith directed the offense under Jim Zorn, who was fired Jan. 4. The Redskins last week informed Smith, who was under contract for the 2010 season, that he would not be retained.

In Seattle, Smith will be reunited with former Redskins secondary coach Jerry Gray, whom the Seahawks hired in the same capacity. Smith turned down a job offer from another team to be part of Carroll's first staff in Seattle.

"I'm just really excited about what Pete is talking about," Smith said. "I'm looking forward to beginning the next chapter."

By Jason Reid  |  January 21, 2010; 4:56 PM ET
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Good luck Sherm. But don't expect to run the ball that much, seeing as Seattle is going to have to come from behind. But at least you know the script, watching the DBs, coached by Jerry Gray, getting toasted deep all day.

Posted by: zcezcest1 | January 21, 2010 5:08 PM | Report abuse

For the last two seasons, Smith directed the offense under Jim Zorn, who was fired Jan. 4.

By Jason Reid

Smith was the OC the last two years, but to say that he directed the offense is incorrect. Zorn did not delegate duties and running the offense was his dream job that was not shared with anyone until he was forced to.

Good luck to you in Seattle SS.

Posted by: Skins930 | January 21, 2010 5:12 PM | Report abuse

enjoy 2.5 yards a carry......

Posted by: zjfr2 | January 21, 2010 5:20 PM | Report abuse

Sherman Smith is going to the Seattle Seahawks with his wife Sharon and their two children, daughter Shavonne and son Sherman.

Holy S.

Posted by: Diesel44 | January 21, 2010 5:23 PM | Report abuse

I'm glad that sanchez has terrible stats and that the jets are good due to their D, O line, and RBs

If JC were a Jet he'd be in the playoffs and sanchez would be watching using his left hand on the remote due to his 'colt mcBradford' shoulder injury.

And, we'd still be saying draft a friggin O lineman already

Posted by: pabrian2003 | January 21, 2010 5:29 PM | Report abuse

Who cares?

Posted by: b145579 | January 21, 2010 5:40 PM | Report abuse

I'm glad that sanchez has terrible stats and that the jets are good due to their D, O line, and RBs

If JC were a Jet he'd be in the playoffs and sanchez would be watching using his left hand on the remote due to his 'colt mcBradford' shoulder injury.

And, we'd still be saying draft a friggin O lineman already

Posted by: pabrian2003 | January 21, 2010 5:29 PM

Are you still trying to convince people NFL football is a team sport? I've given up.

The Campbell Debates have become an emotional excercise, where his being on a losing team has convinced people he's a loser. Of course, the same logic doesn't seem to apply to any other position or player... and nevermind that Campbell, while average, was still the single most effective and durable player on a terrible offense.

Posted by: Alan4 | January 21, 2010 5:40 PM | Report abuse

Sherman Smith is going to the Seattle Seahawks with his wife Sharon and their two children, daughter Shavonne and son Sherman.

Holy S.

Posted by: Diesel44

Nice one. That's some funny sh!t!

Posted by: dcwun | January 21, 2010 5:44 PM | Report abuse

"I'm just really excited about what Pete is talking about," Smith said. "I'm looking forward to beginning the next chapter."

This response proves that Mr. Smith, like a blue chip high school football player, believes whatever he hears from the mouth of a big money coach.

'Cept the 55 year old Mr. Smith should be 'grown enuf' to know b.s. when it's spread before him.

Posted by: MistaMoe | January 21, 2010 5:51 PM | Report abuse

Jets over Colts and the under. Comic book it.

Posted by: dcsween | January 21, 2010 4:50 PM

Colts cover. Coffee Flats book it.

Posted by: 4-12 | January 21, 2010 5:53 PM | Report abuse

alan I'm done trying to convince anyone, just killing time. My new favorite is that JC is inaccurate. So, statistically there are 9 or less accurate QBs in the NFL.

Posted by: pabrian2003 | January 21, 2010 5:55 PM | Report abuse

"I'm glad that sanchez has terrible stats and that the jets are good due to their D, O line, and RBs..."

Not to go there, but Big Ben's rookie numbers where bland too when defense and a running game got him his first ring.

It's the second ring he won with the game winning drive and throw and solid numbers.

No matter what you say, a rookie quarterback playing his team into championship game by not f!cking things up just doesn't happen.

Unless you're a winner.

Posted by: MistaMoe | January 21, 2010 5:57 PM | Report abuse

j-e-s-t jest jest jest

Go clots!

Posted by: pabrian2003 | January 21, 2010 5:58 PM | Report abuse

yeah nothing against sanchez, but Montana couldn't have led the zornskins to playoffs

Posted by: pabrian2003 | January 21, 2010 6:06 PM | Report abuse

I think Shanahan knows that our offense lacks 3 things; oline, speed, and a quality qb. The only one of those most easily fixed outside of the draft is oline.

Posted by: zjfr2 | January 21, 2010 4:57 PM

But the best and most enduring quality in LTs in particular come from the draft. LTs don't come out in free agency until they are on the downsides of their careers. See Levi Jones.

Chris Samuels - #3 pick
Jordan Gross - #8 pick
Orlando Pace - #1 pick
D'Brickashaw Ferguson - #4 pick
Joe Thomas - #3 pick
Walter Jones - #6 pick

Other than Ferguson, those guys are the most recent All Pro (not Pro Bowl) guys

Admittedly, there are four outlying All Pros (Michael Roos - #9 in second round; Jason Peters - undrafted FA; Jamaal Brown - #13 pick; Willie Anderson - #10 pick), but my point is that unless you luck out, you have REALLY good shot at a long-term outstanding player to take an LT with top ten pick.

Posted by: dcsween | January 21, 2010 6:16 PM | Report abuse

well at least he gets a chance to go back to where his career started. They are giving Carroll everything but the kitchen sink. So it has good security. Not much talent, but look out Quinton Ganther.

Posted by: oknow1 | January 21, 2010 6:18 PM | Report abuse

Sanchez is not bad! However, behind the Redskin offensive line he would be looked at as a complete bust.

I don't wan the Sanchez - Campbell debate, but can we please acknoledge TRENT DILFER won a Superbowl. Sanchez manages the game, and might throw 20 passes. when they let him throw early he was getting 2 or 3 picks a game.

The kid isalright and has a bright future, but hte Jets being where they are is their defense and their O-line which are a bunch of beasts!

With a strong O-line you can win with an average QB.

Posted by: oknow1 | January 21, 2010 6:22 PM | Report abuse

Sanchez is not bad! However, behind the Redskin offensive line he would be looked at as a complete bust.

I don't wan the Sanchez - Campbell debate, but can we please acknoledge TRENT DILFER won a Superbowl. Sanchez manages the game, and might throw 20 passes. when they let him throw early he was getting 2 or 3 picks a game.

The kid isalright and has a bright future, but hte Jets being where they are is their defense and their O-line which are a bunch of beasts!

With a strong O-line you can win with an average QB.

Posted by: oknow1 | January 21, 2010 6:23 PM | Report abuse

Moe, a rookie QB getting into championship games with mediocre to crappy numbers is a sign that he lucked onto a stable (winning) team. That stability is what puts him in a position to ever be in, let alone win, big games with better numbers later in his career.

Stable teams tend to keep the same coaches and systems, which builds a QBs credibility, confidence, and skills. Most of the best QBs on winning teams (save Favre) didn't play for more than a couple of coaches.

On the other side, you have QBs who enter unstable (losing) teams with multiple coaches and new systems constantly being put in place. This is the misfortune for guys like Ramsey and Schuler who get drafted into those situations and never develop properly. More seasoned vets, like Brad Johnson, are able to find a better situation and win a Super Bowl afer being discarded by unstable teams.


Posted by: Alan4 | January 21, 2010 6:24 PM | Report abuse

These posts make me not care.

Posted by: scampbell1975 | January 21, 2010 6:29 PM | Report abuse

Posted by: Alan4 | January 21, 2010 6:24 PM

Stable is not a word I would use to describe the Jets of the past few years. How many HCs have they had in the last 4 years?

Posted by: Skins930 | January 21, 2010 6:32 PM | Report abuse

Stable is not a word I would use to describe the Jets of the past few years. How many HCs have they had in the last 4 years?

Posted by: Skins930 | January 21, 2010 6:32 PM |

My thoughts exactly.

Posted by: scampbell1975 | January 21, 2010 6:36 PM | Report abuse

Don't care. I don't care about the ex-coaches, I don't care about the stupid polls (hated those all season). And who has time to watch the embedded videos.

Which brings up ways to improve RI.

How about:

* Hard data/analyis on Shanahan in Denver, and before Denver. Dig down beyond the obvious. Break it into little pieces and feed 'em along for weeks. This is a blog.

* Solid, "unnamed NFL executive"-sourced analysis of our players. What do execs on other teams think of our roster top to bottom? (Bob McGinn at the Milwaukee Journal-Sentinel excels at this.)

* Grab a few ideas/innovations, like the wildcat, Psycho, or Peyton Manning's freedom to call plays, and study them in depth on RI, exploring whether we could implement them here.

* Give us a weekly update on Bruce Allen's moves. GM Monday: what's Allen working on this week?

That is all for now.

Posted by: farstriker | January 21, 2010 6:37 PM | Report abuse

Are you still trying to convince people NFL football is a team sport? I've given up.

Posted by: Alan4


Yes, a team sport where 1 player on offense generally touches the ball 99% of the time and therefore impacts the game a great deal more than the rest.

Trent Dilfer??? OMG! The exception, definitely not the rule. To win like he did our D needs to vastly improve and our ST's too! Get over Trent efff'ing Dilfer already!

Posted by: 1965skinsfan | January 21, 2010 6:55 PM | Report abuse

I think Shanahan knows that our offense lacks 3 things; oline, speed, and a quality qb. The only one of those most easily fixed outside of the draft is oline.

Posted by: zjfr2 | January 21, 2010 4:57 PM

Here's what one analysis had to say regarding the Skins O-line
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Offensive line

The needs: This area was a disaster for the Redskins in 2009. Between the ineffective play, the fact that Chris Samuels is likely to retire and the likely introduction of a zone blocking scheme under Mike Shanahan, it is likely that the Redskins will want at least four or five and maybe as many seven new offensive linemen.

Summary: There aren’t any options at center worthy of discussion. Actually, most of those mentioned above aren’t worthy either. Shanahan and general manager Bruce Allen will be challenged to piece together an offensive line in the wake of Vinny Cerrato’s refusal to draft O-linemen for most of the past decade. The strategy may be to try to fill in some holes with the likes of Kory Lichtensteiger, a former fourth-round pick of Shanahan’s in Denver that the Redskins just signed as a street free agent, and Paul Fanaika, signed off of the Eagles’ practice squad late last year. In addition, there is the possibility that some linemen will get released and the Redskins could turn one team’s trash into their treasure. This could well be more than a one-year rebuilding process although some improvement certainly is possible.
_____________________


This offseason, the Skins will need to find at least one, new young starters in the draft or via a trade, otherwise the team will have to go with vets who have had recent injury concerns.

Posted by: TWISI | January 21, 2010 6:57 PM | Report abuse

Other ways to improve RI


Please refrain from Suisham worship- it doesn't matter that he had the best FG % of any redskins kicker this year, hes awful for more proof of this ask wade phillips

Avoid saying what a classy guy shawn springs is, if he can't avoid getting a sports hernia walking down the street then we can't use him.

Avoid saying "as was reported here before the redskins have neglected to address concerns on the offensive line"-my g/f knew that last year (2008) dammit, we know.

Posted by: drewkinnear | January 21, 2010 7:01 PM | Report abuse

'tis funny. there is something between a success and a bust. Sanchez isn't a great QB at this point, but he isn't a bust either. He is a young QB who is doing pretty well.

Posted by: zcezcest1 | January 21, 2010 7:20 PM | Report abuse

But the best and most enduring quality in LTs in particular come from the draft. LTs don't come out in free agency until they are on the downsides of their careers. See Levi Jones.

Chris Samuels - #3 pick
Jordan Gross - #8 pick
Orlando Pace - #1 pick
D'Brickashaw Ferguson - #4 pick
Joe Thomas - #3 pick
Walter Jones - #6 pick

Other than Ferguson, those guys are the most recent All Pro (not Pro Bowl) guys

Admittedly, there are four outlying All Pros (Michael Roos - #9 in second round; Jason Peters - undrafted FA; Jamaal Brown - #13 pick; Willie Anderson - #10 pick), but my point is that unless you luck out, you have REALLY good shot at a long-term outstanding player to take an LT with top ten pick.

Posted by: dcsween | January 21, 2010 6:16 PM | Report abuse


Don't forget Mike Williams-- we have him, don't we??

;-D

Posted by: TDawg1 | January 21, 2010 7:31 PM | Report abuse

Is this a frickin' Seahawks blog?

Who cares?

Once they're fired/quit here, why do we report on them like its Redskins related news?

Are we gonna get updates on the future of every employee/coach/player that ever leaves the Skins?

And on that note...where is our latest Suishy post, JReid; you never got around to that one, eh??

Posted by: p1funk | January 21, 2010 7:35 PM | Report abuse

I get it, now.

It just dawned on me.

JReid is a USC guy who plans on becoming a fluffer for all things Pete Carroll.

Take that crap back to the West Coast, Reid...

Posted by: p1funk | January 21, 2010 7:36 PM | Report abuse

Seattle has running backs?

Posted by: coparker5 | January 21, 2010 7:39 PM | Report abuse

Just read a report that CowGirls are considering waiving Ken Hamlin, who will be in final year of contract, and drafting Taylor May in rd 1. Hamlin just turned 29, 6'2", 209#. Anyone think we should sign him, move LL to SS?

Posted by: frediefritz | January 21, 2010 7:42 PM | Report abuse

bradford, bradford, bradford..with the fourth pick in the NFL draft the Washington REDSKINS have selected " take us to the promise land Bradford" out of the UO..YEEHAW...

bye campbell...

Posted by: taylormade218 | January 21, 2010 7:43 PM | Report abuse

Just read a report that CowGirls are considering waiving Ken Hamlin, who will be in final year of contract, and drafting Taylor May in rd 1. Hamlin just turned 29, 6'2", 209#. Anyone think we should sign him, move LL to SS?

No, I've never been a fan of signing former cowgirl player... he could be a spy..lol

Posted by: taylormade218 | January 21, 2010 7:46 PM | Report abuse

are they interviewing in SEATTLE?? It seems like anybody can get a job up there..lol

Posted by: taylormade218 | January 21, 2010 7:49 PM | Report abuse

Classic pic, _Stumped_. My wife has a talking doll of the sarge that screams all of his best quotes when you pull the string. A must have when your boss is former military.

Yes, the ex-skin slurping is a tad annoying. Like the suggestions, farstriker.

Posted by: RomoLongballs | January 21, 2010 7:51 PM | Report abuse

'tis funny. there is something between a success and a bust. Sanchez isn't a great QB at this point, but he isn't a bust either. He is a young QB who is doing pretty well.

Posted by: zcezcest1 | January 21, 2010 7:20 PM

Well said Zeke. Never did understand the hate Sanchez gets here because the FO wanted to draft him.

Posted by: Curzon417 | January 21, 2010 7:55 PM | Report abuse

And when you pull Shannahan's string...I wonder what happens then?

Posted by: _Stumped_ | January 21, 2010 8:01 PM | Report abuse

Not changing the subject, but is this a seg into a discussion of the greatest busts of all time?

'tis funny. there is something between a success and a bust. Sanchez isn't a great QB at this point, but he isn't a bust either. He is a young QB who is doing pretty well.

Posted by: zcezcest1 | January 21, 2010 7:20 PM | Report abuse

Posted by: _Stumped_ | January 21, 2010 8:02 PM | Report abuse

"...Jets over Colts..."


There is a better game on Sunday: Harvin v. Bush.

Which speed demon will 'bust' the game open?

Both guys return kicks, playing slot receiver, running back, wide receiver, and own the center of the field and open space.

These guys will make draftniks think, "Flip flipper, CJ Spiller or McCluster," by the time the NFC Championship game is over.

Harvin v. Bush: one of these two players might be the difference between a trip home and a Super trip to Miami.

And they might make the league change it's ideas about how to use speed players over all.

Posted by: MistaMoe | January 21, 2010 8:03 PM | Report abuse

Don't care. I don't care about the ex-coaches, I don't care about the stupid polls (hated those all season). And who has time to watch the embedded videos.

Which brings up ways to improve RI.

How about:

* Hard data/analyis on Shanahan in Denver, and before Denver. Dig down beyond the obvious. Break it into little pieces and feed 'em along for weeks. This is a blog.

* Solid, "unnamed NFL executive"-sourced analysis of our players. What do execs on other teams think of our roster top to bottom? (Bob McGinn at the Milwaukee Journal-Sentinel excels at this.)

* Grab a few ideas/innovations, like the wildcat, Psycho, or Peyton Manning's freedom to call plays, and study them in depth on RI, exploring whether we could implement them here.

* Give us a weekly update on Bruce Allen's moves. GM Monday: what's Allen working on this week?

That is all for now.

Posted by: farstriker | January 21, 2010 6:37 PM |

Don't forget accuracy in things like stats and simple arithmetic.

Posted by: scampbell1975 | January 21, 2010 8:03 PM | Report abuse

And when you pull Shannahan's string...I wonder what happens then?

Posted by: _Stumped_ | January 21, 2010 8:01 PM

He benches your a$$.

Posted by: scampbell1975 | January 21, 2010 8:05 PM | Report abuse

p1funk

"...And on that note...where is our latest Suishy post, JReid; you never got around to that one, eh??"


Oh pleeeeeeese rub this fine lil point his mistamayor's grizzled electronic face.

Swishy choked when it mattered: as the cowboys were trying to score in a playoff game.

The miss in the saints, cowboys, and all of your other games as a redskin are forgiven, Swishy.

Please join the jints or iggles next Fall.

No, better yet--stay in Dallas.

Posted by: MistaMoe | January 21, 2010 8:09 PM | Report abuse

Trade options for Campbell
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Jason Campbell | Redskins | Interested: Rams?, Seahawks?, Panthers?, Jaguars?, Browns?

Washington Redskins QB Jason Campbell will be a restricted free agent this upcoming offseason, and the rumors gained steam all season that he will be playing somewhere else in 2010. Things may have changed when Mike Shanahan and Bruce Allen took over running the team, but we're getting mixed signals.

NFC East blogger Matt Mosley speculated on some trade options if Campbell is put on the block, and he lists the Browns, Rams and Seahawks. Since it's January -- aka NFL Speculation Month -- we'll toss the Jaguars and Panthers out there, too. As would be the case with Donovan McNabb, Campbell represents an upgrade for either of these feline-oriented teams, both of which could return to playoff contention with the right QB in place.

If the Skins retain Campbell, they are not under pressure to draft a new QB, but could take a rookie (as they've done in Mel Kiper Jr.'s recent mock draft) and develop him slowly. The other option is backup Colt Brennan, who was a record-setter in the NCAA but is largely unproven as a pro.

Posted by: TWISI | January 21, 2010 8:13 PM | Report abuse

From Matt Mosley:


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Mike Shanahan has his work cut out for him in Washington.
Washington Redskins

The Burning Questions: Where do we start? OK, let's go with quarterback. Mel Kiper, a regular contributor to this blog, is predicting that the Redskins will take Oklahoma's Sam Bradford with the No. 4 overall pick. Shanahan could attempt to trade Jason Campbell if another team's willing to give him a chance as a starter. The Browns and Rams come to mind first, and at some point the Seahawks are going to have to address their quarterback situation. But if the Skins don't find any takers, Shanahan may try to create a quarterback competition between whatever rookie he drafts and Campbell. I don't think it's a given that a rookie would come in and immediately start under Shanahan. And from the people I've talked to, Shanahan has a deal great admiration for Campbell and the way he handled the fiasco that was the Skins' 2009 season.

Shanahan almost has to start over and rebuild the offensive line. He'll try to find some players he's comfortable with in free agency and then look for more talent in the draft. You can't go into the season trying to build an offensive line around Stephon Heyer. Derrick Dockery's about the only guy who's job is safe. I think you even saw some declining play from center Casey Rabach this season. There's also this little question about the starting running back. Shanahan will probably sit down and figure out whether Clinton Portis is willing to change his approach to preparing for the season. Portis has frustrated a lot of his teammates with his attitude and close relationship with Dan Snyder. If he's not willing to change, he should be released. I don't think any team's willing to trade a first- or second-round draft pick for Portis at this point in his career.

On defense, it's probably time to let Carlos Rogers move on unless Shanahan thinks new defensive coordinator Jim Haslett can turn him around. You also have to start drafting players who can function in a 3-4 scheme. London Fletcher's a tremendous player, but I don't like him in a 3-4.

Posted by: TWISI | January 21, 2010 8:17 PM | Report abuse


"NFC East blogger Matt Mosley speculated..."


Is Matt Mosley the notorious criminally and morally insane, racist blogga 'mistamoe,' aka, Mr. Moe or Mr. Mosley as his creditors know him?.

I wonder..........naw, I doubt it.

Posted by: MistaMoe | January 21, 2010 8:22 PM | Report abuse

looks like JC got online from his vacation spot in the Virgin Islands..
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for all of you jason haters,you are really oblivious to whats really going on with this team.dammit!you can bring tom brady in here,and he will look like crap with this crappy o-line!so all of this cody-bradford-q-b talk is senseless,until the o-line is addressed,and has a chance to jell a little,then jesus himself would be running for his life with this current group of blockers!

Posted by: billydee123 | January 21, 2010 8:04 PM

Posted by: cliftonbiz | January 21, 2010 8:31 PM | Report abuse

why is jason reid so caught up with Pete Carroll?? All the bylines are "JReid" when it mentions Pete Carroll??
We dont care about the Seahawks.. Its RI not SI.

Posted by: cliftonbiz | January 21, 2010 8:34 PM | Report abuse

why is jason reid so caught up with Pete Carroll?? All the bylines are "JReid" when it mentions Pete Carroll??
We dont care about the Seahawks.. Its RI not SI.

Posted by: cliftonbiz | January 21, 2010 8:34 PM

Isn't he a USC flunkie? Jreid I mean.

Posted by: scampbell1975 | January 21, 2010 8:35 PM | Report abuse

seriously.. was "billy dee" (the actor with the pencil thin moustache - billy dee williams) Jason's nickname in college??

Ummmm JC's handle.. billydee123

although "Lionel Ritchie 123" would be more believable..

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looks like JC got online from his vacation spot in the Virgin Islands..
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for all of you jason haters,you are really oblivious to whats really going on with this team.dammit!you can bring tom brady in here,and he will look like crap with this crappy o-line!so all of this cody-bradford-q-b talk is senseless,until the o-line is addressed,and has a chance to jell a little,then jesus himself would be running for his life with this current group of blockers!

Posted by: billydee123 | January 21, 2010 8:04 PM

Posted by: cliftonbiz | January 21, 2010 8:38 PM | Report abuse

Dead in here tonight. Seems to be a common theme on Thursdays.

Posted by: scampbell1975 | January 21, 2010 8:51 PM | Report abuse

Isn't he a USC flunkie? Jreid I mean.

Posted by: scampbell1975 | January 21, 2010 8:35 PM | Report abuse

Bingo.

Posted by: SkinsfaninKaneohe | January 21, 2010 9:10 PM | Report abuse

Stable is not a word I would use to describe the Jets of the past few years. How many HCs have they had in the last 4 years?

Posted by: Skins930 | January 21, 2010 6:32 PM

True dat. It's too early to tell with Sanchez, and the Jets may be a 1 hit wonder this year.

The fact that Favre threw 22 TDs and 22 INTs with the Jets, but put up MVP numbers this year in Minnesota shows how an unstable team really affects a QBs performance.

My money is on the Jets cominig back to reality next year and Sanchez regressing if the Jets stay true to unstable form.

Posted by: Alan4 | January 21, 2010 9:13 PM | Report abuse

"Dead in here. Seems to be a common theme on Thursdays...."

That's been the case since Shanny's hiring.

It jumped for a week, then slowed down.

Mayor Reid has smoked something and thinks this is a seahawks' blog.

Syndee Boring has decided to change her name to Cindy Boren so folks think she's the calm sedate type.

The Redskin Blog Owner allows everything but commonsense to get posted.

Things are so dead in here they are about to rename the blog Burgandy n Gold Six Feet Under.

We need something new.

We need something of substance to chew on.

We need some other hot, juicy redskin football gossip to prattle on and on and on about.

I have an idea!!!

What we need is for Rhino to get drunk again, fart, and then ignite that bomb he's been smuggling in his underwear.

Why should he do this?

How else is he going to get rid of the pizza he ate?

Well, that's my idea.

What's yours?

Posted by: MistaMoe | January 21, 2010 9:14 PM | Report abuse

Dead in here tonight. Seems to be a common theme on Thursdays.

Posted by: scampbell1975 | January 21, 2010 8:51 PM

It's the off season, and the best that the bloggers can think of is to attack J Reid for telling what happened to the coaches who got fired. Reid should do like the guys up here: post his mock drafts, ratings of college players from Mel Kiper, and discuss whether JC has a future with the franchise. Or, if he were really good, he could manufacture news where none exists: He could be BeantownGreg.

Posted by: League-Source | January 21, 2010 9:25 PM | Report abuse

New Burn Notice on USA @ 10 tonight

Go Michael Weston!

Posted by: noonefromtampa | January 21, 2010 9:34 PM | Report abuse

It has been sad when the peeps scoop the blogger

and that has happened many times these past weeks here on RI

Posted by: noonefromtampa | January 21, 2010 9:37 PM | Report abuse

Clausen performed better under adverse circumstances with precious few weapons, shoddy protection, no running game, and a crap defense. He played for one of the most successful OC's in NFL history, he's durable, has proven he can take hits, and has a ton of starts under his belt.

Posted by: zjfr2 | January 21, 2010 4:57 PM |

He is also a 1st class jerkoff who could easily give Cut a run for his money in any annoying @sshole derby.

Posted by: FartezDudmore | January 21, 2010 9:42 PM | Report abuse

Isn't he a USC flunkie? Jreid I mean.

Posted by: scampbell1975 | January 21, 2010 8:35 PM |

Yes he is a USC grad. Good scoop.

Posted by: FartezDudmore | January 21, 2010 9:44 PM | Report abuse

dang.. We'd have to resuscitate JReid if Pete Carroll had become the Skins Head coach.
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Isn't he a USC flunkie? Jreid I mean.

Posted by: scampbell1975 | January 21, 2010 8:35 PM | Report abuse

Bingo.

Posted by: SkinsfaninKaneohe | January 21, 2010 9:10 PM

Posted by: cliftonbiz | January 21, 2010 9:44 PM | Report abuse

What we need is for Rhino to get drunk again, fart, and then ignite that bomb he's been smuggling in his underwear.

Posted by: MistaMoe | January 21, 2010 9:14 PM |

Knowing him, igniting his fart would be just as effective as any underwear bomb.

Posted by: FartezDudmore | January 21, 2010 9:48 PM | Report abuse

New Burn Notice on USA @ 10 tonight

Go Michael Weston!

Posted by: noonefromtampa | January 21, 2010 9:34 PM |

Also hip-hip hooray for Bruce Campbell.

Posted by: FartezDudmore | January 21, 2010 9:52 PM | Report abuse

New Burn Notice on USA @ 10 tonight

Go Michael Weston!

Posted by: noonefromtampa | January 21, 2010 9:34 PM |

Also hip-hip hooray for Bruce Campbell.

Posted by: FartezDudmore | January 21, 2010 9:52 PM |

Also it's Westen, not Weston.

Posted by: FartezDudmore | January 21, 2010 9:57 PM | Report abuse

It has been sad when the peeps scoop the blogger

and that has happened many times these past weeks here on RI

Posted by: noonefromtampa | January 21, 2010 9:37 PM
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Total Conjecture.. But......
It must be tough when, as Wash Post writer, your job is to cover the Skins.. and the vets on the WashPost (Feinstein, Jenkins, Boswell) rightly call out Snyder and Co..

Then Snyder communications (Skins pr dept) puts the Post on black out. While the likes of Reid, Boren et al are hanging out in the Redskins Park press room, resorting to checking their blackberrys for the releases that are going to ESPN, first, from the same damn building they are sitting in..

Message.. Dont mess with Dan.
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Posted by: cliftonbiz | January 21, 2010 9:57 PM | Report abuse

Then Snyder communications (Skins pr dept) puts the Post on black out. While the likes of Reid, Boren et al are hanging out in the Redskins Park press room, resorting to checking their blackberrys for the releases that are going to ESPN, first, from the same damn building they are sitting in..

Message.. Dont mess with Dan.
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Posted by: cliftonbiz | January 21, 2010 9:57 PM |

Why does it have to be a blackout? You better watch out for Lisa.

Posted by: scampbell1975 | January 21, 2010 9:59 PM | Report abuse

New Burn Notice on USA @ 10 tonight

Go Michael Weston!

Posted by: noonefromtampa | January 21, 2010 9:34 PM |

Also hip-hip hooray for Bruce Campbell.

Posted by: FartezDudmore | January 21, 2010 9:52 PM |

Also it's Westen, not Weston.

Posted by: FartezDudmore | January 21, 2010 9:57 PM |

Michael Weston played that PI dud on House. Your TV IQ is pretty bad.

Posted by: FartezDudmore | January 21, 2010 10:02 PM | Report abuse

2010 Mock Draft Analysis

#1 - Clausen 54%, Suh 40%, Bradford 5%, Berry 1%

#2 - Suh 54%, G McCoy 27%, Okung 17%, Berry 1%, Morgan 1%

#3 - G McCoy 45%, Berry 41%, Suh 6%, Okung 4%, Morgan 3%

#4 - Bradford 40%, Okung 26%, Clausen 20%, G McCoy 4%, Berry 3%, Davis 2%

#5 - Okung 40%, Berry 22%, Campbell 9%, Davis 7%, McClain 6%, Williams 5%

Posted by: noonefromtampa | January 21, 2010 10:02 PM | Report abuse

lol scamp.

Posted by: Skins930 | January 21, 2010 10:04 PM | Report abuse

thats what they say about Favre...
Its not a popularity contest.. I would rather have an as-s hole jerk QB going to the Superbowl than a sweet complacent sit-on-the-bench-and-stare-blankly-into-space-between-each-series-QB (you know who).
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Clausen performed better under adverse circumstances with precious few weapons, shoddy protection, no running game, and a crap defense. He played for one of the most successful OC's in NFL history, he's durable, has proven he can take hits, and has a ton of starts under his belt.

Posted by: zjfr2 | January 21, 2010 4:57 PM |

He is also a 1st class jerkoff who could easily give Cut a run for his money in any annoying @sshole derby.

Posted by: FartezDudmore | January 21, 2010 9:42 PM

Posted by: SkinsneedaGM | January 21, 2010 10:04 PM | Report abuse

Also it's Westen, not Weston.

Posted by: FartezDudmore | January 21, 2010 9:57 PM |

Michael Weston played that PI dud on House. Your TV IQ is pretty bad.

Posted by: FartezDudmore | January 21, 2010 10:02 PM

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TV IQ good, tpying skils pour

Posted by: noonefromtampa | January 21, 2010 10:05 PM | Report abuse

Also

Michael Weston was born Michael Rubinstein and is the grandson of piano virtuoso Arthur Rubinstein

Posted by: noonefromtampa | January 21, 2010 10:08 PM | Report abuse

thats what they say about Favre...
Its not a popularity contest.. I would rather have an as-s hole jerk QB going to the Superbowl than a sweet complacent sit-on-the-bench-and-stare-blankly-into-space-between-each-series-QB (you know who).

Posted by: FartezDudmore | January 21, 2010 9:42 PM

Posted by: SkinsneedaGM | January 21, 2010 10:04 PM |

It is one thing to have attitude (like Favre) and another to be ripe enough to be a member of AAA (Annoying @ssholes Anonymous). He needs a personality makeover the way Tiger needs a sex drive makeover.

Posted by: FartezDudmore | January 21, 2010 10:11 PM | Report abuse

TV IQ good, tpying skils pour

Posted by: noonefromtampa | January 21, 2010 10:05 PM |

Yeah, sure, blame it on a typo. They all do. Except "e" is on the other side of the keyboard from "o".

Posted by: FartezDudmore | January 21, 2010 10:14 PM | Report abuse

TV IQ good, tpying skils pour

Posted by: noonefromtampa | January 21, 2010 10:05 PM |

Yeah, sure, blame it on a typo. They all do. Except "e" is on the other side of the keyboard from "o".

Posted by: FartezDudmore | January 21, 2010 10:14 PM

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I'm dsylexic and kan't spel ether

Posted by: noonefromtampa | January 21, 2010 10:17 PM | Report abuse

We no kare aboot typos and mispelings heer. We no nede blog kops aroond thees parts.

Posted by: scampbell1975 | January 21, 2010 10:18 PM | Report abuse

Redskins hire OL coach
By: John Keim
Examiner Staff Writer
01/21/10 6:49 PM EST

A few things we’ve heard about the Redskins new offensive line coach Chris Foerster:

1. He wanted to return to this area. He coached in Baltimore from 2005-07 and apparently still has family in the area. That’s why he appealed to Mike Singletary to let him go. Initially, the 49ers denied Washington permission to speak with him. But they granted him permission Thursday morning.

2. His last five lines have not done very well. One Niners insider blamed the struggles this year on schemes and personnel. In his three seasons with Baltimore his lines had mixed results, with one good year sandwiched between two terrible years. A year after he left the Ravens line was actually solid.

3. He tried to use a zone-blocking scheme in San Francisco, but also had to use a gap-style power blocking system as well that was favored by head coach Mike Singletary. They require diferent sorts of players. You can mix the two, but not all players can perform in both systems.

4. Don’t be surprised if unrestricted free agent right tackle Tony Pashos follows Foerster to Washington. He signed with San Francisco specifically because of Foerster, but he ended the season on injured reserve. He was hurt in his first start last season on Oct. 27. Before that, he was alternating at right tackle. Pashos was cut on Sept. 5 by Jacksonville; he had started 31 of the Jags’ previous 32 games. He started 23 games in two seasons for Foerster in Baltimore.

5. Brian Billick apparently liked Foerster, and Ravens insiders say others did as well. But when Billick was fired there was no outcry to keep Foerster. One knock is that he did not groom any players. Guys like Jonathan Ogden make themselves. Then again, Joe Bugel did not exactly groom a lot of guys in his second tenure. But sometimes it's hard to know where a guy like, say, Stephon Heyer would have been without Bugel. Probably out of the league.

6. Foerster was the offensive coordinator for Miami in 2004 and the offensive line coach in Tampa Bay from 1996-2001. He also coached the tight ends in Indianpolis (2002-03) and Minnesota (1993-95), where he was also an assistant line coach.


Posted by: TWISI | January 21, 2010 10:18 PM | Report abuse

Hey, who dat Caps who beat dem Pens 6-3!

Posted by: FartezDudmore | January 21, 2010 10:19 PM | Report abuse

Also Weston was on Burn Notice with Westen

played a quirky math genius if I remember right

Posted by: noonefromtampa | January 21, 2010 10:20 PM | Report abuse

you got to admit.. when the sideline cameras show Jason, between downs (series), sitting on the bench in a game that is getting out of hand.. He looks like a dazed senior citizen looking for his car at a crowded wal-mart parking lot.
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thats what they say about Favre...
Its not a popularity contest.. I would rather have an as-s hole jerk QB going to the Superbowl than a sweet complacent sit-on-the-bench-and-stare-blankly-into-space-between-each-series-QB (you know who).

Posted by: FartezDudmore | January 21, 2010 9:42 PM

Posted by: SkinsneedaGM | January 21, 2010 10:04 PM |

It is one thing to have attitude (like Favre) and another to be ripe enough to be a member of AAA (Annoying @ssholes Anonymous). He needs a personality makeover the way Tiger needs a sex drive makeover.

Posted by: FartezDudmore | January 21, 2010 10:11 PM

Posted by: cliftonbiz | January 21, 2010 10:20 PM | Report abuse

We no kare aboot typos and mispelings heer. We no nede blog kops aroond thees parts.

Posted by: scampbell1975 | January 21, 2010 10:18 PM | Report abuse

gist so were kleer, sPElling counts on owl deez grape poles on RI

Posted by: RomoLongballs | January 21, 2010 10:22 PM | Report abuse

5. Brian Billick apparently liked Foerster, and Ravens insiders say others did as well. But when Billick was fired there was no outcry to keep Foerster. One knock is that he did not groom any players.

Good luck trying to groom Rhino. The dud has a dome like a cue ball.

Posted by: FartezDudmore | January 21, 2010 10:24 PM | Report abuse

2. His last five lines have not done very well. One Niners insider blamed the struggles this year on schemes and personnel. In his three seasons with Baltimore his lines had mixed results, with one good year sandwiched between two terrible years. A year after he left the Ravens line was actually solid.


Posted by: TWISI | January 21, 2010 10:18 PM | Report abuse


Not sure why the SanFran Oline would be taking a hit.

Gore went over 1000 yards even missing 2 games.

Those nincompoops copmletely changed their offense midseason and went spread shotgun to accomodate Alex Smith because he can't run a regular pro-style offense.

I don't know how you throw the Oline coach under the bus for that...

Posted by: p1funk | January 21, 2010 10:25 PM | Report abuse

So far it looks like the D coaches are a collection of old farts. Too bad Shan doesn't have a son who is an up-and-coming D genius.

Posted by: FartezDudmore | January 21, 2010 10:31 PM | Report abuse

I don't know how you throw the Oline coach under the bus for that...

Posted by: p1funk | January 21, 2010 10:25 PM

I agree with you. I thought it was a good job of adjusting on the fly.

Posted by: TWISI | January 21, 2010 10:31 PM | Report abuse

you got to admit.. when the sideline cameras show Jason, between downs (series), sitting on the bench in a game that is getting out of hand.. He looks like a dazed senior citizen looking for his car at a crowded wal-mart parking lot.
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That's funny stuff Clifton but your posts are hard to follow because you cut and paste the opposite way of the RI norm and we fear change.

Posted by: scampbell1975 | January 21, 2010 10:31 PM | Report abuse

Read good stuff on Tony Pashos who could of been acquired by Vinny last October (available FA at deadline).. but SF scooped him.
Glad Vinny didnt.. If he had worked out.. Vinny might still be here.
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4. Don’t be surprised if unrestricted free agent right tackle Tony Pashos follows Foerster to Washington. He signed with San Francisco specifically because of Foerster, but he ended the season on injured reserve. He was hurt in his first start last season on Oct. 27. Before that, he was alternating at right tackle. Pashos was cut on Sept. 5 by Jacksonville; he had started 31 of the Jags’ previous 32 games. He started 23 games in two seasons for Foerster in Baltimore.

Posted by: cliftonbiz | January 21, 2010 10:32 PM | Report abuse

anyone seen the Youtube videos using the movie Downfall to show reaction to Mass Senate election?

too funny

Posted by: noonefromtampa | January 21, 2010 10:36 PM | Report abuse

Venezuelan leader Hugo "Syphilis Brain" Chavez has once again accused the United States of playing God. But this time it's Haiti's disastrous earthquake that he thinks the U.S. was behind. Spanish newspaper ABC quotes Chavez as saying that the U.S. Navy launched a weapon capable of inducing a powerful earthquake off the shore of Haiti. He adds that this time it was only a drill and the final target is ... destroying and taking over Iran.

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Wow and I thought some of the peeps here were crazy...

Posted by: noonefromtampa | January 21, 2010 10:42 PM | Report abuse

anyone seen the Youtube videos using the movie Downfall to show reaction to Mass Senate election?

too funny

Posted by: noonefromtampa | January 21, 2010 10:36 PM
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No..havent seen it "tampa".. can you post a link?
I met the dude here in our town (1 hour north of Boston). He was at our train stop in a pickup truck at 6 a.m.. He had been sleeping in the back of it since 4 a.m.. Shook hands and brought everyone coffee.. a real down to earth person... Still hard to believe he won... NO one expected it.. 30 points behind 2 weeks ago.

Posted by: SkinsneedaGM | January 21, 2010 10:44 PM | Report abuse

One last thought for tonight. With the Skins likely to be the biggest fish in a small pond this offseason if the skins were to get 2 of the following 4 O-linemen, then that #4 overall pick becomes less obvious

Mike Gandy LT

Eugene Armano G/C (Don't see the Titans letting starting LG go

Chester Pitts G

Tony Pashos RT

If Levi Jones can give the Skins time at LT and RT the O-line would have some starting talent and vet depth. The skins can look at offense, defense, or trades at #4.

Posted by: TWISI | January 21, 2010 10:46 PM | Report abuse

Venezuelan leader Hugo "Syphilis Brain" Chavez has once again accused the United States of playing God. But this time it's Haiti's disastrous earthquake that he thinks the U.S. was behind. Spanish newspaper ABC quotes Chavez as saying that the U.S. Navy launched a weapon capable of inducing a powerful earthquake off the shore of Haiti. He adds that this time it was only a drill and the final target is ... destroying and taking over Iran.

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Wow and I thought some of the peeps here were crazy...

Posted by: noonefromtampa | January 21, 2010 10:42 PM
)))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))

He also wants the Skins to pick Bradford with the 4th.

Posted by: SkinsneedaGM | January 21, 2010 10:46 PM | Report abuse

He also wants the Skins to pick Bradford with the 4th.

Posted by: SkinsneedaGM | January 21, 2010 10:46 PM |

What a freak!

Posted by: scampbell1975 | January 21, 2010 10:49 PM | Report abuse

One last thought for tonight. With the Skins likely to be the biggest fish in a small pond this offseason if the skins were to get 2 of the following 4 O-linemen, then that #4 overall pick becomes less obvious

Mike Gandy LT

Eugene Armano G/C (Don't see the Titans letting starting LG go

Chester Pitts G

Tony Pashos RT

If Levi Jones can give the Skins time at LT and RT the O-line would have some starting talent and vet depth. The skins can look at offense, defense, or trades at #4.

Posted by: TWISI | January 21, 2010 10:46 PM
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Agreed, if all of the above came true..
Skins would be light years ahead of where they are now, at the OLine. And the Draft could be much more balanced (O and D) for overall needed improvements.

(first time I have agreed with TWISI.. must get a drink)

Posted by: SkinsneedaGM | January 21, 2010 10:51 PM | Report abuse

(first time I have agreed with TWISI.. must get a drink)

Posted by: SkinsneedaGM | January 21, 2010 10:51 PM |

Try Laphroaig. You won't be sorry.

Posted by: scampbell1975 | January 21, 2010 11:03 PM | Report abuse

I will be surprised if Pete Carroll really turns the Seahawks around into a contender.

His resume in the NFL is not what it was in college. He was an average NFL Head Coach who was clearly on the outs when he went back to the college game.

Seattle is a team with even less talent than the Redskins, although they do play in a division where 6-10 means you are in the race until December.

Posted by: leopard09 | January 21, 2010 11:07 PM | Report abuse

CARROLL:

Please come and take DANNY SMITH away from this club. Please.

Posted by: glawrence007 | January 21, 2010 11:09 PM | Report abuse

Posted by: noonefromtampa | January 21, 2010 11:29 PM | Report abuse

I will be surprised if Pete Carroll really turns the Seahawks around into a contender.

His resume in the NFL is not what it was in college. He was an average NFL Head Coach who was clearly on the outs when he went back to the college game.

Seattle is a team with even less talent than the Redskins, although they do play in a division where 6-10 means you are in the race until December.

Posted by: leopard09 | January 21, 2010 11:07 PM

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living here in Belicheat country.. The Pats couldnt wait to get rid of Carroll.
He could never control or command enough respect of the team to motivate and discipline them... Too much of a player's coach..
Ummmm sounds alot like the Head Coach that just left the Skins..

Posted by: SkinsneedaGM | January 21, 2010 11:30 PM | Report abuse

I will be surprised if Pete Carroll really turns the Seahawks around into a contender.

His resume in the NFL is not what it was in college. He was an average NFL Head Coach who was clearly on the outs when he went back to the college game.

Seattle is a team with even less talent than the Redskins, although they do play in a division where 6-10 means you are in the race until December.

Posted by: leopard09 | January 21, 2010 11:07 PM

College football is about recruiting and having the best athletes. NFL is about coaching. Don't expect Carroll to have much success with the hawks.

Posted by: Skins930 | January 21, 2010 11:36 PM | Report abuse

I happy to see coach Smith landed on his feet.

Good luck Coach !!!!!

Posted by: dashriprock | January 22, 2010 12:34 AM | Report abuse

Shanahan is close to done with his staff. So, who on his staff has recent playoff experience?

I count 14 coaches (HC, OC, DC, special teams plus 9 position coaches and 1 D asst)

None of the coaches saw the playoffs in 2009

Only the LB coach (Spanos) made the playoffs in either '08 or '09.

So what about '07? Add to the list Danny Smith, Kirk Olivadotti, Steven Jackson and (for now) Stan Hixon. Yup, the retained Redskins coaches.

The last time Denver saw the playoffs was 2005.

I find it odd how little recent playoff experience is on the new staff.

Posted by: zcezcest1 | January 22, 2010 5:04 AM | Report abuse

Hey, I was the first (one of the first) to say NO to the whole Sanchez thing.

But, I have to give him credit for getting his team where it is now. He's a good QB, no doubt about it. And he'll get better. But, if he were here, it would have cost us picks this coming year, and I still think O Line was where our picks should have gone.

I really like Campbell, too. I don't think we've seen what he's capable with a little confidence in his O Line... I just hope, after the last season and a half, he's not "damaged goods."

I'm glad we didn't take Sanchez, but, good for him he ended up on an old school team with a persistent run game and scrappy defense.

The guy makes plays, too, don't get me wrong, but if you put him on the 2009 Redskins, he looks like hammered crap and we still stink.

Posted by: Thinker_ | January 22, 2010 5:14 AM | Report abuse

I find it odd how little recent playoff experience is on the new staff.

Posted by: zcezcest1 | January 22, 2010 5:04 AM


That doesn't matter AT ALL. Coaching experience and playoff experience is important, when it came doesn't much matter so long as you're not talking about a 10 year layoff or something.

I'm not worried about the coaching staff at all. It's the roster that worries me.

Posted by: brownwood26 | January 22, 2010 5:36 AM | Report abuse

FA or draft, but in all probability both. Let's get two OT's a G and C, play MARKO MITCHELL, add a DT, SSLB, CB, FS, sign CAMPBELL, get a new SPECIAL TEAMS coach, and improve people. This is not a one year rebuild. Let's go REDSKINS.

Posted by: glawrence007 | January 22, 2010 6:36 AM | Report abuse

I find it odd how little recent playoff experience is on the new staff.

Posted by: zcezcest1 | January 22, 2010 5:04 AM


That doesn't matter AT ALL. Coaching experience and playoff experience is important, when it came doesn't much matter so long as you're not talking about a 10 year layoff or something.

I'm not worried about the coaching staff at all. It's the roster that worries me.

Posted by: brownwood26 | January 22, 2010 5:36 AM | Report abu
I agree, brownie. What is more important is that they choose a good scheme, select a solid roster, and "coach 'em up"!

Posted by: frediefritz | January 22, 2010 7:01 AM | Report abuse

FA or draft, but in all probability both. Let's get two OT's a G and C, play MARKO MITCHELL, add a DT, SSLB, CB, FS, sign CAMPBELL, get a new SPECIAL TEAMS coach, and improve people. This is not a one year rebuild. Let's go REDSKINS.

Posted by: glawrence007 | January 22, 2010 6:36 AM | Report abuse

I agree on part of this, gl. We can do some in FA. With the new coaches, they will bring in guys they have worked with in the past, so we should have some immediate improvement in the OL. I can see RThomas also coming back to add depth.

I believe Danny Smith will be retained, and I think that is a good thing. He seemed like the only guy on the sideline that kept JZ from really screwing up. He has a great reputation in the league also.

I think we will see a marked improvement this year. I predict that we will be competitive, and still in the race at Thanksgiving. No Super Bowl, but in the mix. With a few breaks, we could get a wildcard spot.

Posted by: frediefritz | January 22, 2010 7:12 AM | Report abuse

I think we will see a marked improvement this year. I predict that we will be competitive, and still in the race at Thanksgiving. No Super Bowl, but in the mix. With a few breaks, we could get a wildcard spot.

Posted by: frediefritz | January 22, 2010 7:12 AM


While I agree that this team will be much improved, I seriously doubt this will be a playoff team. The schedule will be pretty tough and barring a dramatic upgrade on the O-line, I can't see this offense getting turned around in one year. Plus a scheme change on D (the first one this team will have seen in 6 years) will set things back on that side of the ball, even moreso if we switch to a 3-4 alignment. My hope is that the vast improvement in coaching and some good breaks will get us to 8-8. But it's way early to try and handicap the 2010 season.

Posted by: brownwood26 | January 22, 2010 7:26 AM | Report abuse

Holy crap, it's dead here...

Posted by: brownwood26 | January 22, 2010 8:41 AM | Report abuse

seems like it brownie...not much going on right now...

Posted by: BeantownGreg1 | January 22, 2010 8:48 AM | Report abuse

Is this a frickin' Seahawks blog?

Who cares?

Once they're fired/quit here, why do we report on them like its Redskins related news?

Posted by: p1funk | January 21, 2010 7:35 PM |
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Agreed. I find these daily "Guess Who Ended Up Where" posts barely concealed attempts to fill the blog, instead of actually doing some serious reporting and breaking a story directly related to the team.

Posted by: MrRedskin21 | January 22, 2010 8:48 AM | Report abuse

Holy crap, it's dead here...

Posted by: brownwood26 | January 22, 2010 8:41 AM | Report abuse

I'm not dead yet. I don't want to go on the cart! I'm getting better!

Posted by: PAskinsfan17 | January 22, 2010 8:50 AM | Report abuse

Greg,

How was Orlando we go there every year, did you try Bahama Breeze great restuarant.

Posted by: Flounder21 | January 22, 2010 8:53 AM | Report abuse

You know, I'm wondering why all these folks here seem to think that Campbell will sign on to be a tackling dummy for a season. Does everyone really believe the man and his agents are idiots?

The Redskins can tender him all they want. He can get just as good a deal somewhere else this summer, when they would be forced to hold a roster spot or release him, as this spring if he refuses to sign the tender. For him this is the smart play.

Posted by: elkiii_2008 | January 22, 2010 8:56 AM | Report abuse

Wow the offseason is brutal on RI. Not so much the lack of forum chatter, but the lack of things to talk about. I guess I shoulda seen this coming. A JC argument every day from not until the draft - yikes.

Posted by: REXskins | January 22, 2010 9:00 AM | Report abuse

flound, trip was a blast, weather was great, parks were sparsely populated, no, didn't get to that restaurant, thanks for the tip though...

Posted by: BeantownGreg1 | January 22, 2010 9:10 AM | Report abuse

One last thought for tonight. With the Skins likely to be the biggest fish in a small pond this offseason if the skins were to get 2 of the following 4 O-linemen, then that #4 overall pick becomes less obvious

Mike Gandy LT

Eugene Armano G/C (Don't see the Titans letting starting LG go

Chester Pitts G

Tony Pashos RT

If Levi Jones can give the Skins time at LT and RT the O-line would have some starting talent and vet depth. The skins can look at offense, defense, or trades at #4.


Posted by: TWISI | January 21, 2010 10:46 PM | Report abuse


I don't know TWIS,

I think #4 is a tackle regardless.

Gandy, Pashos and Jones aren't solutions at the tackle position. All those guys are hitting their 30's and have injury history.

It would be like reloading with the older injury-prone line that let us down the past 2 seasons.

Posted by: p1funk | January 22, 2010 9:11 AM | Report abuse

Wow the offseason is brutal on RI. Not so much the lack of forum chatter, but the lack of things to talk about. I guess I shoulda seen this coming. A JC argument every day from not until the draft - yikes.

Posted by: REXskins | January 22, 2010 9:00 AM


The way I look at it, no news is good news. I started coming here the offseason that yielded Jim Zorn being named HC, and that offseason was pretty active. I think you see where I'm going with this...

Posted by: brownwood26 | January 22, 2010 9:13 AM | Report abuse

Welcome back, Greg. Glad you had a good trip.

Posted by: brownwood26 | January 22, 2010 9:14 AM | Report abuse

Okay, let me stir some things up since it is so quiet:

-Jason Campbell stinks. He has no accuracy and makes poor decisions. Exhibit A: the pass four yards past the line of scrimmage in the Giants game, exhibit B: the audible into a run straight into a strong side blitz against the Eagles. Idiot.

-Orakpo will never be as good a linebacker as a defensive end. Why would the team ever consider playing him in that spot? How do we thing switching to a 3-4 is going to make him a better linebacker?

-Why go to the 3-4 defense? That's just crazy. We don't have the personnel for it.

-This team is going to pick Bradford at number four, re-sign all this year's offensive line, and trust in the aura of Shanahan to make 300 plus pound brute force blockers into lithe, ballet-type zone blockers.

-Laron Landry - tackling machine.

-Carlos Rogers - interception machine.

-Clinton Portis - practicing machine.

Okay, he says with his little finger curled at side of mouth in his best Dr. Evil impression, let's here everyone's opinion...

Posted by: RedSkinHead | January 22, 2010 9:14 AM | Report abuse

Who cares?

Once they're fired/quit here, why do we report on them like its Redskins related news?

Posted by: p1funk | January 21, 2010 7:35 PM |
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Agreed. I find these daily "Guess Who Ended Up Where" posts barely concealed attempts to fill the blog, instead of actually doing some serious reporting and breaking a story directly related to the team.

Posted by: MrRedskin21 | January 22, 2010 8:48 AM

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I care. I'm interested to see where these guys end up and what it shows about the quality of the people we had on our coaching staff last year. I'd like to see more of this. Not surprised that funk and MrRedskin don't care, nor am I surprised by the tone and contents of their posts.

There's not much news this time of year for teams out of the playoffs, so I don't understand what story there is to break.

I do agree, though, that there is a shortage of serious reporting -- Twisi's cut and paste above of John Keim's piece on the O Line coach shows what can be done. Reid, Maese, Svrluga should be ashamed that they didn't do it better. Fire one of them and bring in Keim.

It's not "either-or" on a blog. Among the THREE of them, Reid, Maese, and Svrluga should be giving us updates on where the old coaches/players end up, but they should also be pulling together better background pieces -- like Keim's -- on the new staff.

Posted by: League-Source | January 22, 2010 9:15 AM | Report abuse

While I am on a roll, Beantown, have you heard any good inside information from PFT today? Anything more on the Cooley - Moss trade for Brandon Marshall????

Posted by: RedSkinHead | January 22, 2010 9:16 AM | Report abuse

Okay, let me stir some things up ...

Posted by: RedSkinHead | January 22, 2010 9:14 AM

RSH--

I don't think this is "stirring things up." Sounds more like putting the stale leftovers in the microwave. Next we'll open the freezer and take out "Did Spurrier ruin Ramsey?" "Did Snyder screw Arrington?" "Is BeantownGreg1 a tool?"

Posted by: League-Source | January 22, 2010 9:19 AM | Report abuse

rsh, my sources at PFT tell me we're trading Betts for a 2nd, and that indeed I am a tool.....wait....no, change that 2nd one...to "NOT" a tool....

Posted by: BeantownGreg1 | January 22, 2010 9:25 AM | Report abuse

I don't know TWIS,

I think #4 is a tackle regardless.

Gandy, Pashos and Jones aren't solutions at the tackle position. All those guys are hitting their 30's and have injury history.

It would be like reloading with the older injury-prone line that let us down the past 2 seasons.

Posted by: p1funk | January 22, 2010 9:11 AM | Report abuse

Gotta disagree here. If they sign Gandy and Pashos, a guard, and re-sign Jones and Heyer its nothing like what they've done the last 3 years. We have had zero depth depth, if a starter went down we had guys off the street to back him up. Have four tackles with starting experience on both the left and right side would be completely different.

Posted by: zjfr2 | January 22, 2010 9:25 AM | Report abuse

While I agree that this team will be much improved, I seriously doubt this will be a playoff team. The schedule will be pretty tough and barring a dramatic upgrade on the O-line, I can't see this offense getting turned around in one year. Plus a scheme change on D (the first one this team will have seen in 6 years) will set things back on that side of the ball, even moreso if we switch to a 3-4 alignment. My hope is that the vast improvement in coaching and some good breaks will get us to 8-8. But it's way early to try and handicap the 2010 season.

Posted by: brownwood26 | January 22, 2010 7:26 AM | Report abuse
I agree, brownie. I'm not drinking the kool-aid yet. But every year we see teams that make a substantial turn-around from losing record to winning. You make good points about change in D, and a new O. Sometimes that can actually help, because other teams don't know quite how to prepare early in the season. And yes, we do have a wicked schedule. I agree that 8-8 would be more likely, but a few good breaks and you never know.

Posted by: frediefritz | January 22, 2010 9:26 AM | Report abuse

Fritz, if you look at the dramatic turnarounds of the Falcons and Dolphins in '08, it came from a much-needed regime change and some solid QB play. If JC can kick his performance up a notch (or whomever starts here this year) and the D stays strong, we have a chance (so long as the O-line is vastly improved and healthy). Otherwise, I'd just count on another 8-8 and a step in the right direction (for a change).

Posted by: brownwood26 | January 22, 2010 9:37 AM | Report abuse

Gotta disagree here. If they sign Gandy and Pashos, a guard, and re-sign Jones and Heyer its nothing like what they've done the last 3 years. We have had zero depth depth, if a starter went down we had guys off the street to back him up. Have four tackles with starting experience on both the left and right side would be completely different.

Posted by: zjfr2 | January 22, 2010 9:25 AM | Report abuse


I seriously doubt we would ever sign all of those guys. Those guys have all been starters in the league and would look for gigs that are going to allow them to start/get paid like starters immediately, which isn't the case here if we bring in all 4. Much like LEvi Jones last year, those vet tackles are more likely to just sit at home and "stay in shape" and wait for the phone to ring.

TWISI mentioned that we should get 2 of the 4 he listed.

Again, picking up 1 or 2 over-30 tackles with injury history and backing them up with Heyer bascially recreates a Jansen/Samuels situation.

Posted by: p1funk | January 22, 2010 9:37 AM | Report abuse

Again, picking up 1 or 2 over-30 tackles with injury history and backing them up with Heyer bascially recreates a Jansen/Samuels situation.

Posted by: p1funk | January 22, 2010 9:37 AM | Report abuse

I totally agree. I'd sign only Gandy. Levi Jones and Mike Gandy gives us 2 legit starters. Right now we only have 1. Then I'd still draft Okung. I'd want Okung as the #3 tackle on the depth chart. I'm assuming he'll be starting by week 10 due to one of the geezers dislocating a hip. Levi Jones hasn't played a full season since 2004. Gandy is coming off an injury. I don't want to Vinny the left tackle spot again this year. I'd also love to keep Heyer as #4 on the depth chart. Heyer is a guy that can come in late in the year and give you 2-3 good games. I'd still draft a right tackle next year and dump either Jones or Gandy.

Posted by: PAskinsfan17 | January 22, 2010 9:52 AM | Report abuse

Welcome back Bean - how's the weather in Moe's home state?

Posted by: Rypien11 | January 22, 2010 9:56 AM | Report abuse

Posted by: p1funk | January 22, 2010 9:37 AM

I'm of the opinion to draft OL at #4, but here's my thought in my earlier. If you get both tackles or a tackle and guard from my example during FA, the Skins would have a decent starting line. This would allow the skins to draft a tackle in the second round, not needing that player to start on day 1. They can address backup guard later in the draft. By addressing the line in FA, if the Skins wanted to draft a QB @ #4 then this gives them some flexability.

Posted by: TWISI | January 22, 2010 10:03 AM | Report abuse

ryp, thanks, weather was great, 60's and 70's the entire week, little chilly in the morning, but warmed up nicely...makes me wonder why I live where I do...

saw a guy in Disney rocking a skins sweatshirt the same day I was rocking a skins shirt......

Posted by: BeantownGreg1 | January 22, 2010 10:03 AM | Report abuse

I totally agree. I'd sign only Gandy. Levi Jones and Mike Gandy gives us 2 legit starters.

Posted by: PAskinsfan17 | January 22, 2010 9:52 AM | Report abuse


We agree in principle, although we also have to re-sign Levi Jones. He's a UFA right now (I believe).

Posted by: p1funk | January 22, 2010 10:04 AM | Report abuse

Sounds nice. I'm in upstate NY and we've managed to avoid most of the bad weather this winter thats plagued the rest of New England... actually been warm recently, may get up to 40 today...

Posted by: Rypien11 | January 22, 2010 10:05 AM | Report abuse

"I'd sign only Gandy. Levi Jones and Mike Gandy gives us 2 legit starters. Right now we only have 1. Then I'd still draft Okung. I'd want Okung as the #3 tackle on the depth chart."

I think that only Jones, Dockery, and E Williams will survive as linemen for next year.

If you say the offensive line was bad, then you have to quickly decide what to keep and what to toss.

Those three guys might be the only ones returning to camp next summer.

If you follow the jets' model, you draft two players high, and add them two those two new players.

That could mean a new line of Jones, Dockery, Williams, rookie (g), rookie (t).

In the '11 draft, you take a left tackle and guard.

After all, most assessments suggest the right side of the line is where the work is to be done.

Or it might be a collection of all new players.

Posted by: MistaMoe | January 22, 2010 10:08 AM | Report abuse

"...saw a guy in Disney rocking a skins sweatshirt the same day I was rocking a skins shirt..."


I thought that was you.

So why didn't you wave back?

I shouted, "Beep!!!!" and you gave me the finger.

Just like you're doing right now.

Posted by: MistaMoe | January 22, 2010 10:12 AM | Report abuse

ryp, thanks, weather was great, 60's and 70's the entire week, little chilly in the morning, but warmed up nicely...makes me wonder why I live where I do...

Posted by: BeantownGreg1 | January 22, 2010 10:03 AM


Don't believe the hype, Greg...Florida is easily the most overrated state in the union. A nice place to visit (depending on where), not the best place to live. I lived in Tampa and Jacksonville as a kid, Jacksonville is a sh*thole that should be handed off to the Georgia and Tampa is oppressively hot in the summer.

DC/MD/VA will always be my favorite landing spot.

Posted by: brownwood26 | January 22, 2010 10:12 AM | Report abuse

I think that only Jones, Dockery, and E Williams will survive as linemen for next year.

Posted by: MistaMoe | January 22, 2010 10:08 AM | Report abuse


Once again, we have to re-sign Levi Jones. He is not under contract.

Posted by: p1funk | January 22, 2010 10:13 AM | Report abuse

moe, ha ha, unless you turned white for that day, then it definetly wasn't you....

brown, I like hot weather, so I got not problems with it...hot/humid, sign me up...

Posted by: BeantownGreg1 | January 22, 2010 10:15 AM | Report abuse

It's unfortunate that Sherm could take a Redskins player or two with him -- especially CP26 and JC17.

Posted by: Vic1 | January 22, 2010 10:16 AM | Report abuse

Here's a good one from PFT:

Sean Salisbury finally comes clean
Posted by Mike Florio on January 22, 2010 9:13 AM ET
It took a few years, and it required his career to bottom out. But former NFL quarterback and ESPN analyst Sean Salisbury finally has admitted what everyone in the media already knew.

He once was suspended by ESPN for taking a picture of his penis with a cell phone and showing it to at least one co-worker.

Salisbury makes the admission to Michael Hiestand of USA Today. But Salisbury insists it happened only once.

"I was ashamed, and I didn't want to say anything," Salisbury said. "I thought it would go away and let my ego get in the way. Since then, I've beat myself up about it more than 10 baseball bats could. A stupid mistake can cost you, and this has really cost me. I should have been having this conversation a long time ago."

In August, Salisbury vehemently denied the rumor/report in an e-mail exchange with the folks at Deadspin, claiming that the zip-click incident "never happened." (Salisbury later sued Deadspin; it's unknown whether his soul-purging will include a dismissal of the lawsuit.)

So, frankly, it's hard to believe anything Salisbury says, now or in the future. And that credibility issue likely has done far more damage to his attempt to find gainful, consistent employment in the media than what he now calls a "sophomoric mistake." (The legal system has another two-word phrase for it.)

"It was stupid --dumb!-- but not malicious," Salisbury now says of his cellular misadventures. "How can it ruin a good career? . . . I've gone from being on six days a week to disappearing. And it's not like I wanted to disappear. . . . But it feels good getting it off my chest."

He claims that he has undergone anger-management therapy, and he says he won't be following through on plans to pen a tell-all book about his 12 years in Bristol.

Still, the mere fact that he made the threat to tell secrets about his former place of employment will be another factor working against his ability to become employed again in the kind of environment with secrets folks might someday be interesting in knowing.

Then there's the reality that, frankly, he wasn't very good. He was loud and he spoke in absolutes and he had zero accountability for his blunders, like when he insisted that if Devin Hester returns a kick for a touchdown in Super Bowl XLI the Bears "will win" the game . . . and then Hester did and the Bears didn't.

Then again, perhaps there ultimately was accountability. And though he can blame the death of his career on a one-time mistake and his ensuing failure to own it, we think the incident to which he now admits was merely a symptom of the deeper issue that eventually brought him down, and that is now keeping him from getting back up.

Posted by: brownwood26 | January 22, 2010 10:16 AM | Report abuse

moe, ha ha, unless you turned white for that day, then it definetly wasn't you....

Posted by: BeantownGreg1 | January 22, 2010 10:15 AM


Don't laugh, it happened to Sammy Sosa...

Posted by: brownwood26 | January 22, 2010 10:18 AM | Report abuse

I'm of the opinion to draft OL at #4, but here's my thought in my earlier. If you get both tackles or a tackle and guard from my example during FA, the Skins would have a decent starting line. This would allow the skins to draft a tackle in the second round, not needing that player to start on day 1. They can address backup guard later in the draft. By addressing the line in FA, if the Skins wanted to draft a QB @ #4 then this gives them some flexability.

Posted by: TWISI | January 22, 2010 10:03 AM | Report abuse

This has been my point all along and nobody seemed to understand it. They can easily sign three lineman in FA, if they can sign Albert, DeAngelo, and Dock last year, they certainly can sign two tackles and a guard. We absolutely have to commit to draft olineman with more regularity than we have. IMO at least one olineman should be drafted in the top 4 rounds annually. But our line in shambles doesn't mean this draft they have to take all oline. Re-sign Levi and Heyer, sign McNeil, or Gandy, or two of several options, sign a guard, then you have all kinds of options. Shanny himself said it in his press conference, one of the things that appealed to him about this job was essentially have a blank check from the owner and being able to get whoever he wants. There is zero chance they just sit on their hands in free agency and draft all oline. We'll be the busiest team once again, the difference is this time the decision makers actually know what they're doing.

Posted by: zjfr2 | January 22, 2010 10:28 AM | Report abuse

ryp, thanks, weather was great, 60's and 70's the entire week, little chilly in the morning, but warmed up nicely...makes me wonder why I live where I do...

saw a guy in Disney rocking a skins sweatshirt the same day I was rocking a skins shirt......

Posted by: BeantownGreg1 | January 22, 2010 10:03 AM
=======================================================
Yes, that is why I live where I live and have the NFL Sunday Ticket! Our two seasons are very nice, Summer and Not-Summer. BTG got to experience Not-Summer and it is wonderful.

I put up my Christmas lights in a t-shirt and shorts. Can't beat that.

Posted by: noonefromtampa | January 22, 2010 10:30 AM | Report abuse

Salisbury was terrible. I grew tiresome of his entire act and how he use to say that Mcnabb puts his uniform on in a phone booth.

Dilfer>Salisbury

Now only if that fat, bloated, loudmouth Berman would commit career suicide. I'd like to Gary Miller on Berman.

"Gary Miller, who was covering the Oriole-Indian series for ESPN, was arrested and charged with urinating out the window of a Cleveland nightclub onto off-duty police officers."

Posted by: Diesel44 | January 22, 2010 10:30 AM | Report abuse

Good call, Diesel. Salisbury was one of the biggest idiots ESPN ever put on their air, and that's saying something. I'll never forget the year the Falcons went into Green Bay and won that playoff game, he called Atlanta the best team in the NFC. The next week the Eagles handed them their taints and then he said the Eagles are the best team in the NFC and how the Falcons had no chance. Dude's opinion was totally at the mercy of which way the wind was blowing at the time.

Good riddance. I hope he never works in broadcasting again.

Posted by: brownwood26 | January 22, 2010 10:39 AM | Report abuse

must take in consideration this year and next years crop of college QB's. Locker will be the talk of the town untill he tears his AC joint. But who else is there. We won't have a top 5 pick next year to get the best QB.Will shanny option #1 take the best available QB this year because we have the #4 and take a tackle in the first round next year. Option #2 franchise tackle this year passing up bradford, with the hopes of a next best QB to LOcker will be available to us next year. I predict option #1 with sprinkling of OL FA and 1st day drafting OL. We will also find the next T Davis in the later rounds. Just my prediction. All this with the intention of having JC17 start for us on more final year.

Posted by: sthai75 | January 22, 2010 10:46 AM | Report abuse

This is pretty, pretty, funny. Kind of reminds me of Angelina Hall and his tackling ability.

http://www.mixedmartialarts.com/?go=forum_framed.posts&forum=2&thread=1584335&page=1&pc=4

Posted by: Diesel44 | January 22, 2010 10:47 AM | Report abuse

I love how people are saying, "Sign Mcneil as a FA", as if the Chargers won't do everything in their power to resign him. He's one of the best young tackles in the league protecting a franchise QB, but yeah, he should be real easy to sign. But not only that, but I'm sure he would love to move cross country from sunny Cali to the cold east coast with his family to start over. And other then him, there aren't too many impressive tackles available out there. So all this sign OT in free agency isn't the best option unless you're looking for depth.

Posted by: ga8085 | January 22, 2010 10:47 AM | Report abuse

I'm soooo hatin' on Noone right now.

damn I miss the miamuh weather. Need to HYDRATE!

Posted by: DikShuttle | January 22, 2010 10:49 AM | Report abuse

Posted by: ga8085 | January 22, 2010 10:47 AM

The bigger obstacle to signing the former Aubrun Tiger is that he would be a RFA. That and he has the same injury as Samuels,spinal stenosis or a narrowing of the spine.

Posted by: Diesel44 | January 22, 2010 10:53 AM | Report abuse

Posted by: ga8085 | January 22, 2010 10:47 AM | Report abuse

If he's available ga, made the list the other day, and he's one that could/couldn't become available. Some will re-sign, some won't and will hit the market, I was just throwing out a name along with "several other options" if he's not available you pick one of the other options. My point was there will be free agent lineman available and IMO its a safe bet we're going to sign a few.

Posted by: zjfr2 | January 22, 2010 10:58 AM | Report abuse

Sign Karlos Dansby....

Dansby is one of the few who'll benefit from the rules of the uncapped year -- he'll have six years of service, so he'll be an unrestricted free agent.

Posted by: Diesel44 | January 22, 2010 10:59 AM | Report abuse

The bigger obstacle to signing the former Aubrun Tiger is that he would be a RFA. That and he has the same injury as Samuels,spinal stenosis or a narrowing of the spine.

Posted by: Diesel44 | January 22, 2010 10:53 AM | Report abuse

Yikes. Even a bigger reason to go after a 1st round OT.

Posted by: ga8085 | January 22, 2010 11:00 AM | Report abuse

must take in consideration this year and next years crop of college QB's. Locker will be the talk of the town untill he tears his AC joint. But who else is there. We won't have a top 5 pick next year to get the best QB.Will shanny option #1 take the best available QB this year because we have the #4 and take a tackle in the first round next year. Option #2 franchise tackle this year passing up bradford, with the hopes of a next best QB to LOcker will be available to us next year. I predict option #1 with sprinkling of OL FA and 1st day drafting OL. We will also find the next T Davis in the later rounds. Just my prediction. All this with the intention of having JC17 start for us on more final year.

Posted by: sthai75 | January 22, 2010 10:46 AM | Report abuse

I like Ryan Mallet, Pat Devlin, and Christian Ponder better than anyone in this draft not named Jimmy Clausen. If you were to bunch the 2010 class with the 2011 I would certainly rank them:

Jake Locker
Jimmy Clauen
Ryan Mallet
Pat Devlin
Christian Ponder
Sam Bradford
Tim Tebow
Tony Pike
Colt McCoy
Dan LeFevour
Case Keenum

Assuming we have a #15 pick then I can see us landing Pat Devlin or Christian Ponder without any diffculty.

Posted by: PAskinsfan17 | January 22, 2010 11:04 AM | Report abuse

"Don't laugh, it happened to Sammy Sosa..."

Bro', those photos of him are sick.

He looks like a ministrel performer without the black paint.

Posted by: MistaMoe | January 22, 2010 11:07 AM | Report abuse

Assuming we have a #15 pick then I can see us landing Pat Devlin or Christian Ponder without any diffculty.

Posted by: PAskinsfan17 | January 22, 2010 11:04 AM

Sorry, some of the peeps on here have already traded next years 1st for a 2nd round pick this year...

Posted by: Skins930 | January 22, 2010 11:12 AM | Report abuse

Assuming we have a #15 pick then I can see us landing Pat Devlin or Christian Ponder without any diffculty.

Posted by: PAskinsfan17 | January 22, 2010 11:04 AM

Devlin has another year at Delaware....unless he's going pro early....

Posted by: dlhaze1 | January 22, 2010 11:13 AM | Report abuse

http://bleacherreport.com/articles/330509-redskins-mock-draft-10#page/1

have you seen this mock draft? there is something for everyone here, although no RBs

Posted by: pabrian2003 | January 22, 2010 11:13 AM | Report abuse

Posted by: PAskinsfan17 | January 22, 2010 11:04 AM
I admit I'm a PRO football guy all the way, depend on kiper for igniteing any interest in college prospects for the REDSKINS. Tebow ranked higher than Colt McCoy is interesting. Shanny must be considering next years crop of QB's if he's not considering this years #4 for a QB. I'm a Shannahan fan and truely believe his offensive mind is second to none. His way is proven and still evolving in his coaching philosophy. We'll just continue to speculate till april.

Posted by: sthai75 | January 22, 2010 11:16 AM | Report abuse

Sorry, some of the peeps on here have already traded next years 1st for a 2nd round pick this year...

Posted by: Skins930 | January 22, 2010 11:12 AM | Report abuse

Dude we got it back in the Ladell Betts trade!! C'mon man, pay attention!!

Posted by: PAskinsfan17 | January 22, 2010 11:19 AM | Report abuse

Posted by: pabrian2003 | January 22, 2010 11:13 AM

That would be the ideal draft. I would be so happy with that secnerio that I would visit the recently divorced neighbor and give her a good ole charity rodgering.

Posted by: Diesel44 | January 22, 2010 11:21 AM | Report abuse

Posted by: dcsween | January 21, 2010 6:16 PM | Report abuse

Don't forget Mike Williams-- we have him, don't we??

Posted by: TDawg1 | January 21, 2010 7:31 PM

Damb. Called me out. Now I have to choose between standing by what I said about drafting LTs in the top ten AND starting to claim that Mike Williams will have a monster return (and I probably will need to say "book it!") ... or just completely backing down and agreeing that the Skins should pick Clausen or Bradford at #4.

Let me get back to you on that.

[Also, I learned the secret to Mike Williams' diet ... he didn't have to eat less ... just poop more.]

Posted by: dcsween | January 22, 2010 11:23 AM | Report abuse

Dude we got it back in the Ladell Betts trade!! C'mon man, pay attention!!

Posted by: PAskinsfan17 | January 22, 2010 11:19 AM

my sources at PFT tell me we're trading Betts for a 2nd, and that indeed I am a tool.....wait....no, change that 2nd one...to "NOT" a tool....

Posted by: BeantownGreg1 | January 22, 2010 9:25 AM

According to BTG1's source (most reliable source out there!) we are only getting a 2nd round pick for Betts.

Posted by: Skins930 | January 22, 2010 11:24 AM | Report abuse

Since there's not that much to talk about, what do you fellas think JReid makes for this job.

Right now, he's basically making 1-3 short posts a day, which usually involves getting the info from another website which broke the story first, then doing a tiny amount of research (which many of the commentors here do more of) to add some stats, then typing it up and posting it.

Basically I think a lot of the people on the comments threads here could do the same job in the amount of time they spend writing and reading the comments. The Skins office wont talk to WaPo, and the players are on vacation, so there's really no exclusives to be had. You could do this job from home.

I'd guess 50k, but only b/c it costs so much to live in the DC area. Can you say dream job?

Posted by: REXskins | January 22, 2010 11:25 AM | Report abuse

I'd guess 50k, but only b/c it costs so much to live in the DC area. Can you say dream job?

Posted by: REXskins | January 22, 2010 11:25 AM

Keep in mind that this blog is not his only responsibility. He also has to write print articles and show up to talk on local sports shows....

Posted by: dlhaze1 | January 22, 2010 11:28 AM | Report abuse

Devlin has another year at Delaware....unless he's going pro early....

Posted by: dlhaze1 | January 22, 2010 11:13 AM | Report abuse

I was talking about 2011 and most places have him entering the 2011 draft. I'm not sure how many years of eliglibility he has left since he transferred.

Posted by: PAskinsfan17 | January 22, 2010 11:30 AM | Report abuse

pabrian, fraud alert on that link ... LeFevour did NOT go to Michigan State. [MSU does not produce quality QBs ... and the quality they do produce, typically D-linmen, receivers, and punters, have a 50/50 hit-miss ratio ... either the guy is outstanding or a criminal ... or in the case of Plaxico, both.]

I do totally agree with the link, however, that the Skins should use their 3rd round pick to get Jeremy Jarmon, the DE from Kentucky. The guy could play DE in a 3-4. So I think they should and WILL make that move. Book it! And I'm not just saying that.

Posted by: dcsween | January 22, 2010 11:30 AM | Report abuse

My bad PA.....but yes, Devlin only has one more year of eligiblity left at UD.

Posted by: dlhaze1 | January 22, 2010 11:32 AM | Report abuse

Well just when I thought it couldn't go any more bama up here, ol' "B to the 3rd" returns from va-cay...

Where's my funnel cake, Beans?


Do they still put sulfur in the water in Orlando?

Posted by: RedDMV | January 22, 2010 11:34 AM | Report abuse

Posted by: zjfr2 | January 22, 2010 9:25 AM | Report abuse

... I seriously doubt we would ever sign all of those guys. Those guys have all been starters in the league and would look for gigs that are going to allow them to start/get paid like starters immediately, which isn't the case here if we bring in all 4. ...

Posted by: p1funk | January 22, 2010 9:37 AM

Why would it matter? There won't be a salary cap. The new Washington Broncos mean that The Owner can change from being Al Davis, Jr. to become Steinbrenner Jr. (or, becaus someone already has that title, the third). Also, I know that cap management is supposed to be a Bruce Allen specialty, but why would that make a difference now?

I like the idea of a serious O-line with ACTUAL depth.

Posted by: dcsween | January 22, 2010 11:35 AM | Report abuse

That would be the ideal draft. I would be so happy with that secnerio that I would visit the recently divorced neighbor and give her a good ole charity rodgering.

Posted by: Diesel44 | January 22, 2010 11:21 AM


Dude, you should be doing that anyway. Some of the best pussy out there is of the good 'ol divorcee variety. You shoulda plowed that when Shanny got hired...

Posted by: brownwood26 | January 22, 2010 11:41 AM | Report abuse

Why would it matter? There won't be a salary cap. The new Washington Broncos mean that The Owner can change from being Al Davis, Jr. to become Steinbrenner Jr. (or, becaus someone already has that title, the third). Also, I know that cap management is supposed to be a Bruce Allen specialty, but why would that make a difference now?

I like the idea of a serious O-line with ACTUAL depth.

Posted by: dcsween | January 22, 2010 11:35 AM | Report abuse


B/c I think guys are still going to want to play.

And I question the wisdom of locking up a bunch of money on a bunch of over-30 tackles with injury history. Salary cap or not.

And if we're filling roster spots with those types of players, then where are we finding spots to develop the talent that is going to be with the team beyond a year or 2?

Posted by: p1funk | January 22, 2010 11:41 AM | Report abuse

In all this talk about signing veteran OT depth, let's not forget that Chris Samuels has not yet retired.

Posted by: p1funk | January 22, 2010 11:43 AM | Report abuse

Though it theoretically could be a spending spree on free agents due to an uncapped year, I doubt there will be any quality monster salary signings because everyone is a restricted FA and you do need to spend wisely for it hopefully won't extend into the 2011 season. hence the empahasis on getting holes filled thru the DRAFT.

Posted by: sthai75 | January 22, 2010 11:47 AM | Report abuse

In all this talk about signing veteran OT depth, let's not forget that Chris Samuels has not yet retired.

Posted by: p1funk | January 22, 2010 11:43 AM | Report abuse

He needs to go on the cart. He's mostly dead.

Posted by: PAskinsfan17 | January 22, 2010 11:48 AM | Report abuse

In all this talk about signing veteran OT depth, let's not forget that Chris Samuels has not yet retired.

Posted by: p1funk | January 22, 2010 11:43 AM


It's that line of thinking that put this team in the O-line trouble it's in now...

Posted by: brownwood26 | January 22, 2010 11:51 AM | Report abuse

In all this talk about signing veteran OT depth, let's not forget that Chris Samuels has not yet retired.

Posted by: p1funk | January 22, 2010 11:43 AM


It's that line of thinking that put this team in the O-line trouble it's in now...

Posted by: brownwood26 | January 22, 2010 11:51 AM | Report abuse


No it's not.

The thinking that got this team in trouble was using broken-down over-30 vets as starters and backing them up with no-name undrafted projects and Big Bust Mike Williams.

I'm talking about using vets as the backups and starting legitimately talented younger guys.

Posted by: p1funk | January 22, 2010 11:59 AM | Report abuse

Ponder & Devlin both have a year left, Locker too

None of them declared early, so most all figure to 2011 draft

That's why I'm in the resign Campbell for 2 years camp and draft OL, OL, FS, RB this year and QB next year

Better OL class this year, better QB class next year

Although I do like LeFavour from C.Mich as a 4th round pick. I think he we have a good Senior Bowl and combine and will move up though.

Posted by: noonefromtampa | January 22, 2010 12:00 PM | Report abuse

red, got you some mickey mouse ears, sent them to AlaBAMA, figured thats where you lived...

Posted by: BeantownGreg1 | January 22, 2010 12:00 PM | Report abuse

Who cares?

Posted by: b145579 |

Other coaches, as well as football geeks.

Reid is showing the new Redskin coaches that he cares about them as individuals and their careers. It could be out of good spirits, or, more pragmatically, as a message to these coaches.

Thanks to the neanderthal policies of Snyder regarding media relations, it is very necessary to covey favor with potential sources. If you don't like it, well read the headline and skip the story.

Posted by: TheCork | January 22, 2010 12:03 PM | Report abuse

Posted by: 4thFloor | January 22, 2010 12:06 PM | Report abuse

I'm talking about using vets as the backups and starting legitimately talented younger guys.


Posted by: p1funk | January 22, 2010 11:59 AM


That I'll buy as long as one of the "legitimately talented younger guys" doesn't include Stephon Heyer.

My main point is if Samuels is 50/50 to come back, I'd operate as if he won't be. If he does, then it's a bonus. But with his chronic back issues, I'm not sure he's any good to us anymore...at least not at his current price tag.

Posted by: brownwood26 | January 22, 2010 12:06 PM | Report abuse

have you seen this mock draft? there is something for everyone here, although no RBs

Posted by: pabrian2003 | January 22, 2010 11:13 AM | Report abuse
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I could live with this draft (assuming we don't trade back anywhere to procure extra picks) ...some draft sites think Iupati (the 2nd round OG) could also kick out to RT, so he'd be a great versatile pickup for the OL.

LeFevour, the 4th rnd QB from Central Michigan, is a 4-yr starter for a winning program (8-10 wins per year), and he has some scrambling ability - downside is average arm strength and played in shotgun spread - so basically a cheaper version of Bradford. Defintiely a project, but if we plan to sit him for a year anyway, why not?

Posted by: PDXskin | January 22, 2010 12:08 PM | Report abuse

I'm talking about using vets as the backups and starting legitimately talented younger guys.


Posted by: p1funk | January 22, 2010 11:59 AM


That I'll buy as long as one of the "legitimately talented younger guys" doesn't include Stephon Heyer.

My main point is if Samuels is 50/50 to come back, I'd operate as if he won't be. If he does, then it's a bonus. But with his chronic back issues, I'm not sure he's any good to us anymore...at least not at his current price tag.

Posted by: brownwood26 | January 22, 2010 12:06 PM | Report abuse


Right now Heyer does not qualify in my books as a "legitimately talented younger guy", though I'm willing to see if a different scheme can help him. But I'm talking more about draft picks.

Samuels as a backup makes sense. It's not his skills that have deteriorated so much as his durability. The point is that I think we are already paying him no matter what - unless he retires. But if he doesn't, that's at least some veteran tackle depth right there.

Posted by: p1funk | January 22, 2010 12:12 PM | Report abuse

Ponder & Devlin both have a year left, Locker too

None of them declared early, so most all figure to 2011 draft

That's why I'm in the resign Campbell for 2 years camp and draft OL, OL, FS, RB this year and QB next year

Better OL class this year, better QB class next year

Although I do like LeFavour from C.Mich as a 4th round pick. I think he we have a good Senior Bowl and combine and will move up though.

Posted by: noonefromtampa | January 22, 2010 12:00 PM | Report abuse

We were ranking the 2011 and 2010 QBs together. The point of the exercise was to show that better prospects will be available later in next year's draft than early in this year's draft.

Posted by: PAskinsfan17 | January 22, 2010 12:13 PM | Report abuse

curry favor, Corky, I think you meant curry favor.

Or maybe curry flavo(u)r.

Huh.

Friday.

Posted by: NateinthePDX | January 22, 2010 12:16 PM | Report abuse

red

"Do they still put sulfur in the water in Orlando?"


No, because they've had so many racial conflicts, they decided to pour oreos in instead.

Double-stuffed I believe.

Posted by: MistaMoe | January 22, 2010 12:20 PM | Report abuse

Who will win the big NFC Championship?

Percy Harvin.

It'll be funny for the saints to see a guy who does to them what Bush does to other teams.

Harvin's gonna make the plays that'll make him a star.

He's Bush on steriods.

Maybe I shouldn't put it that way.

Posted by: MistaMoe | January 22, 2010 12:22 PM | Report abuse

Greenbow, Al-la-BAMA!

I lived about a quarter mile off Route 17, about half a mile from the town of Greenbow, Alabama. That's in the county of Greenbow.

Posted by: RedDMV | January 22, 2010 12:25 PM | Report abuse

We were ranking the 2011 and 2010 QBs together. The point of the exercise was to show that better prospects will be available later in next year's draft than early in this year's draft.

Posted by: PAskinsfan17 | January 22, 2010 12:13 PM | Report abuse

Here's the thing with that though, I think most everyone can agree that from and NFL ready standpoint the two best QBs are probably Locker and Clausen in that order. Hopefully we won't be picking #1 next year so we won't ever really have a shot at Locker. Regardless of whether JC stays or not Collins is probably gone, so we still need a QB. And IMO the chances of us picking this high again anytime soon are slim to none. Unless we can swing a deal for McNabb I think we kinda need to get a QB at 4. If we can get McNabb then draft oline and grab a QB next year, but if not, grab Clausen at 4.

Posted by: zjfr2 | January 22, 2010 12:25 PM | Report abuse

Cindy, any chance of getting Jasno on here as a guest blogger to wake this place up?

Posted by: Curzon417 | January 22, 2010 12:26 PM | Report abuse

I have made it to the top of the Season Ticket waitlist AGAIN for the past 4 out of 5 years....

Posted by: 4thFloor | January 22, 2010 12:29 PM | Report abuse

I'm talking about using vets as the backups and starting legitimately talented younger guys.

Posted by: p1funk

Point well taken, but I can't see Samuels risking paralysis to play backup on a rebuilding team.

Posted by: TheCork | January 22, 2010 12:33 PM | Report abuse

Moe,

But they still go through a through process to get the impurities out, right? I mean, heaven forbid if you find any color in the water down there.

I heard the "oreo" process is cutting-edge in Clearwater, Florida. That's near Tampa. You be from around those parts, right?

Posted by: RedDMV | January 22, 2010 12:35 PM | Report abuse

Harvin's gonna make the plays that'll make him a star.

He's Bush on steriods.

Maybe I shouldn't put it that way.

Posted by: MistaMoe

Not you;'ll give us all a Migraine. No wait....you've given Harvin a Migraine.

Jaysus, nice line of work for a guy suffering from horrific headaches.

Posted by: TheCork | January 22, 2010 12:36 PM | Report abuse

"...Ponder & Devlin both have a year left, Locker, too..."

I like Ponder and Locker.

But if I'm Shanny and I decide to ditch JC, that's gonna happen in year one.

I'd say Clausen might be the best bet, but if Bradford shows arm strenght and weight gain at the combine (which he HAS to attend), then it'll be Bradford.

In any event, we win no matter what happens.

Posted by: MistaMoe | January 22, 2010 12:36 PM | Report abuse

I have made it to the top of the Season Ticket waitlist AGAIN for the past 4 out of 5 years....

Posted by: 4thFloor | January 22, 2010 12:29 PM

This sounds too good to be true! You must have an in with the Redskins, even after your buddy Vinnie left. You still playing raquetball with Snyder?

Posted by: League-Source | January 22, 2010 12:38 PM | Report abuse

red

"I heard the "oreo" process is cutting-edge in Clearwater, Florida."

I'll do it for ya':

(INSERT rimshot audio and image of red and moe and the red-boned, big booty hoochie mamas they picked up in Haiti all laughing as KKK dressed RI bloggas complain about the lack of insane racial chatta on a dull Friday.)

And it is dull, y'all.

Go Harvin!!!!

Posted by: MistaMoe | January 22, 2010 12:40 PM | Report abuse

re: that mock link I posted

Sh!t yeah! If we could walk away with the best T and best G in the draft, an young QB to develop, a big CB, AND a speedy backer.

If it goes that way we're competitive next year, F that rebuilding crap.

Posted by: pabrian2003 | January 22, 2010 12:41 PM | Report abuse

Well, 60% of the mock drafts have us picking a QB...

Posted by: noonefromtampa | January 22, 2010 12:43 PM | Report abuse

Well, 60% of the mock drafts have us picking a QB...

Posted by: noonefromtampa | January 22, 2010 12:43 PM | Report abuse

I think more than that had us picking an OT last year.

Posted by: PAskinsfan17 | January 22, 2010 12:47 PM | Report abuse

I can just picture it....

http://nflonlocation.net/pdf/SBXLIVFlyer_v09.pdf

Soon for us....

Posted by: 4thFloor | January 22, 2010 12:47 PM | Report abuse

This may sound f'd up, but since the quake I've been curious as to what the women in Haiti look like.

If there are red-boned and yellow joints down there, I'm going down there to scoop and stack a stable of breezies.

After the blood test...

Posted by: RedDMV | January 22, 2010 12:48 PM | Report abuse

I'm talking about using vets as the backups and starting legitimately talented younger guys.

Posted by: p1funk

Point well taken, but I can't see Samuels risking paralysis to play backup on a rebuilding team.

Posted by: TheCork | January 22, 2010 12:33 PM | Report abuse


Well neither would I, if it were me, the second they said "spine", I'd have said "Peace".

But Samuels hasn't decided to retire yet, so maybe he's thinking potential paralysis is worth another couple million.

If he's that dumb, then I'd be happy to have him be my backup tackle.

Posted by: p1funk | January 22, 2010 12:48 PM | Report abuse

Posted by: frediefritz

Just read a report that CowGirls are considering waiving Ken Hamlin, who will be in final year of contract, and drafting Taylor May in rd 1. Hamlin just turned 29, 6'2", 209#. Anyone think we should sign him, move LL to SS?

No friggen way. How many x-cowboys can you name that came to the Redskins and were worth a Shi#... We don't need washed up x-cowboys coming to this team...
This Years draft is full of talented safeties. Draft a FS in the later rounds and I'd bet that's what you'll see Shanahan/Allen do.

Also, please please pick Okung at #4. He would start immediately and have a big impact at LT. To much talk of Clausen, Bradford, McCoy....
unless the Skins are in a long-term rebuilding plan, but occording to Bruce Allen, urgency is the plan to become a successful franchise and none of QBs in this draft are franchise QB that can come in and light up the house. That will take several Years. Draft a QB with your 4/5th pick to work/groom with Jason and Colt... did we forget that we have a young promising QB in Colt Brennan???

Posted by: TKing1 | January 22, 2010 12:49 PM | Report abuse

Reid is showing the new Redskin coaches that he cares about them as individuals and their careers. It could be out of good spirits, or, more pragmatically, as a message to these coaches.

Thanks to the neanderthal policies of Snyder regarding media relations, it is very necessary to covey favor with potential sources. If you don't like it, well read the headline and skip the story.

Posted by: TheCork | January 22, 2010 12:03 PM | Report abuse


There's the Corky we know.

Back to his familiar ways of appointing himself Defender of the Journalistic Flame and Guardian of the Blogger.

Where have you been?

Maybe you took some time off to mourn that little Senate race in Massachusetts...

Posted by: p1funk | January 22, 2010 12:52 PM | Report abuse

You still playing raquetball with Snyder?

Posted by: League-Source | January 22, 2010 12:38 PM

For as long as he owns the team......Only reason he gets to hang out with the cool kids....

Posted by: 4thFloor | January 22, 2010 12:52 PM | Report abuse

"This may sound f'd up, but since the quake I've been curious as to what the women in Haiti look like."


No disrespect to the nation of Haiti, but it's not the place for women.

Down here, Jamacian, Columbian, Brazilian, Venezuelan, and Panamanian females are what you want.

Miami is swimmin with wimmen.

That's why all the all star games, and super bowls are headed this way: after the games, the young ballas want the dancer-latin-carmel-video looking honies who respect paper and keep quiet.

Especially if they don't speak English.

Posted by: MistaMoe | January 22, 2010 12:55 PM | Report abuse

Soccer games are an excellent setting to meet foreign women.

http://bleacherreport.com/articles/293441-the-world-cup-of-hot-chicks

Posted by: Vicc | January 22, 2010 12:57 PM | Report abuse

"Soccer games are an excellent setting to meet foreign women."

mrsmoe would frown on this suggestion.

She says they charge less for more work.

And she says she's sick of foriegners taking jobs from Americans.

Blow and otherwise.

Posted by: MistaMoe | January 22, 2010 1:04 PM | Report abuse

Brazil's contribution to the world is second to none.

Posted by: Skins930 | January 22, 2010 1:06 PM | Report abuse

Fritz, if you look at the dramatic turnarounds of the Falcons and Dolphins in '08, it came from a much-needed regime change and some solid QB play. If JC can kick his performance up a notch (or whomever starts here this year) and the D stays strong, we have a chance (so long as the O-line is vastly improved and healthy). Otherwise, I'd just count on another 8-8 and a step in the right direction (for a change).

Posted by: brownwood26 | January 22, 2010 9:37 AM
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Miami improved so much because the Tuna went after big old offensive lineman just as fast as he could and that's a strategy you can hang your hat on. If you can run first and throw second, it makes a young QB's life a lot easier, and I think that, more than anything else, contributed to those teams' quarterbacks having a good season. This draft has got to be about the offensive line. They have a good chance to add some really talented players to their offensive line and they cannot spend another season wallowing in the cellar of the NFL because they pinned their hopes on a lot of "maybe's" on the offensive line.

Posted by: RedSkinHead | January 22, 2010 1:09 PM | Report abuse

what do the hamsters think of this kind of a draft?

round 1 - Okung OT
round 2 - Jevod Best or Joe McKnight RB
round 4 - Jevon Snead QB
round 5 - Sergio Render OG
round 7 - Carlos Singleton 6'7" WR Memphis

Posted by: zjfr2 | January 22, 2010 1:11 PM | Report abuse

From what I gather over the internets, the consistent chatter seems to assume that Portis will be back and probably the feature back. If its accurate that any back who wears a helmet in Shanahan's offense can rack up a 1000 yards, plug-and-play-style, then it seems like the idea should be to plan for another RB spot for someone who can returns punts and kicks, i.e., like Sproles. Which brings me back to ... Trindon Holliday ... the fastest man in college football (pay no attention to his 5'5" height).

Posted by: dcsween | January 22, 2010 1:12 PM | Report abuse

Before we expect Portis to automatically go over 1,000 just because Shanny is here, let' s fix the O-Line 1st? He can't be assesd properly with this line we got now....

Sound familiar?

Posted by: 4thFloor | January 22, 2010 1:22 PM | Report abuse

"Miami improved so much because the Tuna went after big old offensive lineman just as fast as he could and that's a strategy you can hang your hat on."

He also added some stout young defensive linemen and added C Henne.

If the fins can snag a receiver to go along with D Bess and Hartline, they might really be something.

The jets are good now, but Miami might be better later and longer as they are younger all around.

Posted by: MistaMoe | January 22, 2010 1:24 PM | Report abuse

round 1 - Okung OT
round 2 - Jevod Best or Joe McKnight RB
round 4 - Jevon Snead QB
round 5 - Sergio Render OG
round 7 - Carlos Singleton 6'7" WR Memphis

Posted by: zjfr2 | January 22, 2010 1:11 PM | Report abuse

Drop Snead and add Lefevour and you may be on to something. I'd also like to invite Mike Kafka to camp. I think he may have something worth looking at.

Posted by: PAskinsfan17 | January 22, 2010 1:28 PM | Report abuse

I think he may have something worth looking at.

Posted by: PAskinsfan17 | January 22, 2010 1:28 PM | Report abuse


That's what she said...

Posted by: p1funk | January 22, 2010 1:30 PM | Report abuse

I could live with this draft (assuming we don't trade back anywhere to procure extra picks) ...some draft sites think Iupati (the 2nd round OG) could also kick out to RT, so he'd be a great versatile pickup for the OL.

LeFevour, the 4th rnd QB from Central Michigan, is a 4-yr starter for a winning program (8-10 wins per year), and he has some scrambling ability - downside is average arm strength and played in shotgun spread - so basically a cheaper version of Bradford. Defintiely a project, but if we plan to sit him for a year anyway, why not?

Posted by: PDXskin | January 22, 2010 12:08 PM | Report abuse

Iupati is being projected to be taken in the late 1st rd. We would be extremely lucky to have him fall to #37. And I would love to pick up LeFevour in the 4th.

Posted by: frediefritz | January 22, 2010 1:31 PM | Report abuse

Alright, time for a new topic...

How bout best 'upper torso' out there?

My vote goes to Katy Perry...

Posted by: Rypien11 | January 22, 2010 1:31 PM | Report abuse

Down here, Jamacian, Columbian, Brazilian, Venezuelan, and Panamanian females are what you want.

Posted by: MistaMoe | January 22, 2010 12:55 PM

Which country has won the most Miss Universe pageants?

US -- 7
Venezuela -- 6
Puerto Rico -- 5
Sweden -- 3
Brazil -- 2

Who woulda thunk it with Puerto Rico? And, keep in mind that the US population is 308 million, Venezuela has about 28 million, but Puerto Rico has only 4 million!

Posted by: League-Source | January 22, 2010 1:34 PM | Report abuse

I'd also like to invite Mike Kafka to camp. I think he may have something worth looking at.

Posted by: PAskinsfan17 | January 22, 2010 1:28 PM

Imagine you're undrafted and you get a call from the Redskins to come to camp. Are you more likely to say "yes" is Zorn's the head coach or it Shanahan's the coach?

This year the undrafted pool should be stronger than ever. With all the peeps coming out earlier, guys are getting pushed down and some of them who would have been 5th, 6th, 7th round picks will be overlooked.

Posted by: League-Source | January 22, 2010 1:39 PM | Report abuse

"Which country has won the most Miss Universe pageants?"

The thing is, for girls from Puetro Rico, Venezuela, and Columbia, competing in these pageants is a very big deal.

In America, a lot of very attractive and bright young women have other options.

I bet there are 50 NFL cheerleaders who could compete in one of those pageants and win easily.

They figure, "Why bother when I can become Mrs. Chris Cooley."

Posted by: MistaMoe | January 22, 2010 1:40 PM | Report abuse

That would be the ideal draft. I would be so happy with that secnerio that I would visit the recently divorced neighbor and give her a good ole charity rodgering.

Posted by: Diesel44 | January 22, 2010 11:21 AM | Report abuse.

Not cool Mr. Diesel44.

Posted by: MrsDiesel44 | January 22, 2010 1:41 PM | Report abuse

From what I gather over the internets, the consistent chatter seems to assume that Portis will be back and probably the feature back...said dcsween


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why not?

He's a tough player. He had some good runs this past year.

I don't feel like he had a terrible season; i do wish he had stayed healthy. Before this season he had only missed 9 starts. Sad to say the 'Skins may had already packed in the season early and just wanted him to get healthy following a concussion. I'd personally ask him to lose some weight and regain some elusiveness. Gibbs turned him into a bruiser.

Posted by: Vicc | January 22, 2010 1:42 PM | Report abuse

Iupati is being projected to be taken in the late 1st rd. We would be extremely lucky to have him fall to #37. And I would love to pick up LeFevour in the 4th.

Posted by: frediefritz | January 22, 2010 1:31 PM | Report abuse


Iupati would be nice but Jon Asamoah is a nice consolation prize. He's just as fast and just as nimble but he's a little smaller. Iupati is no doubt the better prospect but I certainly wouldn't rule out Asamoaugh.

Posted by: PAskinsfan17 | January 22, 2010 1:44 PM | Report abuse

Before we expect Portis to automatically go over 1,000 just because Shanny is here, let' s fix the O-Line 1st? He can't be assesd properly with this line we got now....

Sound familiar?

Posted by: 4thFloor | January 22, 2010 1:22 PM

Agreed. If he does stay to be the feature back I think Shanny will run more piches and outside runs for him. He is not an inside runner, however he has been used as one here.

Posted by: joeboggs | January 22, 2010 1:53 PM | Report abuse

There's the Corky we know.

Back to his familiar ways of appointing himself Defender of the Journalistic Flame and Guardian of the Blogger.

Where have you been?

Maybe you took some time off to mourn that little Senate race in Massachusetts...

Posted by: p1funk |

And there's the Funk we know, letting his ego get in the way of actually learning something.

Not defending the behavior, just educating the slower members of the blog about some of the reasons for stories that don't necessarilly make sense or appeal to them.

Another possible reason for the piece? A blank page with nothing else to fill it with. Nice to write when inspiration strikes, but deadlines are a Beeyotch.

As for the Mass race, I'll leave the prurient interest in the former pinup turned Senator up to you. I live in CA, not MA, so I concern myself more with the residual impact of the Bush economic collapse and the failed Schwarzenegger recovery efforts out here.

Oh, also it's raining a lot and while it's put out the last of the brushfires, it marks the official beginning of our Mud Slide season.

Posted by: TheCork | January 22, 2010 1:53 PM | Report abuse

Oh, also it's raining a lot and while it's put out the last of the brushfires, it marks the official beginning of our Mud Slide season.

Posted by: TheCork | January 22, 2010 1:53 PM

Official beginning of the 'Skins mud slide season was the day that Zorn took the reigns of the maroon and black. Official end was when Shanahan signed on to coach the burgundy and gold.

Posted by: League-Source | January 22, 2010 2:02 PM | Report abuse

He is not an inside runner, however he has been used as one here.

Posted by: joeboggs | January 22, 2010 1:53 PM | Report abuse

If Portis isn't an "inside runner," he sure did a pretty good imitation of one for several seasons. You don't have to be Brandon Jacobs-sized to be an effective runner between the tackles (see Holmes, Priest and Smith, Emmitt).

Posted by: rbpalmer | January 22, 2010 2:02 PM | Report abuse

George Will writes in the Washington Post (via CrossingWallStreet):

Under Arnold Schwarzenegger, the best governor the states contiguous to California have ever had, people and businesses have been relocating to those states. For four consecutive years, more Americans have moved out of California than have moved in. California's business costs are more than 20 percent higher than the average state's. In the past decade, net out-migration of Americans has been 1.4 million. California is exporting talent while importing Mexico's poverty. The latter is not California's fault; the former is.

If, since 1990, state spending increases had been held to the inflation rate plus population growth, the state would have a $15 billion surplus instead of a $42 billion budget deficit, which is larger than the budgets of all but 10 states. Since 1990, the number of state employees has increased by more than a third. In Schwarzenegger's less than six years as governor, per capita government spending, adjusted for inflation, has increased nearly 20 percent.

facts....and stuff there corky...

Posted by: BeantownGreg1 | January 22, 2010 2:05 PM | Report abuse

Mock Drafts always project the top guard to go in the bottom of the 1st round, but they usually drop (kind of like inside backers do) as the draft unfolds. I think it's very possible that Iupati could be there when we pick in the second, unless some team above us sees him as their immediate starter at right Tackle.

Posted by: PDXskin | January 22, 2010 2:06 PM | Report abuse

J.Reid talk about something new man. Tired of this damn Sherman Smith stuff. Talk about Orakpo in the Pro Bowl or call up the new TE coach to hear what he has to say about Davis and Cooley. Are you getting paid for this??? Hurry your fat, Cailifornia gay ass up and update us on something new.

Posted by: ATLredskin | January 22, 2010 2:09 PM | Report abuse

I guess one new blog post a day is too much to ask for around here. Pathetic!

Posted by: 4SkinzForever | January 22, 2010 2:11 PM | Report abuse

Man I was bored when I wrote that, but I will not take it back.

CHRIS HORTON

Is this guy going to be a Redskin for the next 5+ years???

Posted by: ATLredskin | January 22, 2010 2:14 PM | Report abuse

Mock Drafts always project the top guard to go in the bottom of the 1st round, but they usually drop (kind of like inside backers do) as the draft unfolds. I think it's very possible that Iupati could be there when we pick in the second, unless some team above us sees him as their immediate starter at right Tackle.

Posted by: PDXskin | January 22, 2010 2:06 PM | Report abuse

The draft could be really screwy this year. The best guard may typically go at the end of the first in normal years but this year they may still be some more valuable talent there in other positions.

It could also be possible that some teams may not have him as the top guard on their draft boards. Jon Asamoah is actually a faster runner. Ducasse supposedly has the most upside.

I wouldn't rule anything out until draft day. Every year there is that top 15 talent that falls way down into the second round.

Posted by: PAskinsfan17 | January 22, 2010 2:17 PM | Report abuse

Posted by: ATLredskin | January 22, 2010 2:09 PM |

Wow, that wont win you too many friends.

Feel free to look elsewhere if you're not happy with the news here.

But I guess if you were getting better news elsewhere, you would be there, right?

Posted by: Rypien11 | January 22, 2010 2:19 PM | Report abuse

Hurry your fat, Cailifornia gay ass up and update us on something new.

Posted by: ATLredskin

Don't trip, I'm not going beat you to death with the morals and values branches. I could care less what you call someone else, but I do find it funny, sort of ironic that you're calling Reid a 'fat homosexual' when you're from, (assuming that you're from) Atlanta -- the homosexual capital of the country.


F Jason Reid.

Posted by: RedDMV | January 22, 2010 2:25 PM | Report abuse

My wife and I were watching "Who Wants To Be A Millionaire" while we were in bed.

I turned to her and said, "Do you want to have sex?"

"No," she answered.

I then said, "Is that your final answer?"

She didn't even look at me this time, simply saying, "Yes."

So I said, "Then I'd like to phone a friend."

Posted by: 4-12 | January 22, 2010 2:27 PM | Report abuse

"Iupati is being projected to be taken in the late 1st rd. We would be extremely lucky to have him fall to #37."


Iupati v. Okung with the 4th pick?

Folks are high on Okung, but the guy I listen to, Mike Mayock, NFL Network says Iupati is the better option as he can play all line positions.

Think like this: a left tackle who can pull like a left guard.

Also: a center who can pull like a guard.

With Okung you get a guy who should be a good left tackle.

With Iuapti, you get a guy who can do more things which is good if one guy goes down to injury.

I want more.

I want Iupati at 4.

And damn the mock drafts.

Posted by: MistaMoe | January 22, 2010 2:27 PM | Report abuse

LOL 4-12

Posted by: GreatOne1 | January 22, 2010 2:40 PM | Report abuse

Oh and yeah forgot to add that Norv Turner is the HC of the San Diego Chargers and Steve Spurrier is the HC at South Carolina.

This should pretty much nip all the where are the former coaches going conversation, so lets go with the news from the park that people care about.

Posted by: GreatOne1 | January 22, 2010 2:43 PM | Report abuse

My wife and I were watching "Who Wants To Be A Millionaire" while we were in bed.

I turned to her and said, "Do you want to have sex?"

"No," she answered.

I then said, "Is that your final answer?"

She didn't even look at me this time, simply saying, "Yes."

So I said, "Then I'd like to phone a friend."

Posted by: 4-12 | January 22, 2010 2:27 PM
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So, did your wife say yes to the friend?

Posted by: RedSkinHead | January 22, 2010 2:46 PM | Report abuse

Anyone else see this blogpost on espn about Sidney Rice and immediately think of our receivers?

http://espn.go.com/blog/nfcnorth/post/_/id/9195/battle-in-the-bayou-rices-emergence

The interesting part for me is Favre's quote: "You either have football savvy or you don’t. I’m a firm believer in that. You can take the fastest guy, and it’s happened in the NFL, you can take a track guy and try to make him a receiver. Yeah, he can fly. But can he adjust to the ball? Can they catch a back shoulder [pass]? Can they go up at the high point of a ball? Can they leverage a corner? Those are things you can’t coach."

here's hoping one of Marko Mitchell, Malcolm Kelly, or Devin Thomas can show us the things you can't coach next year. My money's on Kelly if he can ever get and stay healthy. Thomas seems like a track guy. Marko, who knows?

Posted by: manifested | January 22, 2010 2:48 PM | Report abuse

LMAO! @ 4-12...

Posted by: 4thFloor | January 22, 2010 2:48 PM | Report abuse

"Hurry your fat, Cailifornia gay ass up and update us on something new."


This might force him to give us updates on things we don't want to read about:

a. the best way to apply lubricating oils

b. hemorriod medicines we should avoid

c. how to make a salty thing tasty and fresh

d. when not to spit, when to swallow

e. the best way to determine who's a 'top and who's a 'bottom'

f. why being on the 'down low' is really low down

g. which athletes would be your Tiger Woods of choice

...and finally,

h. why tight ends make the best receivers


This is a foobtall blog, isn't it?

Take care--honey!!!

(INSERT a sweet one-eyed wink and massive 'yeeeeeeech' from homophobic RI Nation bloggas.)


Posted by: MistaMoe | January 22, 2010 2:50 PM | Report abuse

here's hoping one of Marko Mitchell, Malcolm Kelly, or Devin Thomas can show us the things you can't coach next year. My money's on Kelly if he can ever get and stay healthy. Thomas seems like a track guy. Marko, who knows?

Posted by: manifested | January 22, 2010 2:48 PM
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I bet you all of those young receivers will show dramatic improvement with Shanahan at the wheel. I also bet that ARE's days are numbered and Moss is not far behind.

Posted by: RedSkinHead | January 22, 2010 2:52 PM | Report abuse

not sure what your point is on what's going on in California, Bean. George states facts that often don't explain much.

The governor of California, independent of party, is a weak job. The legislature has more power, but it has incredible operating constraints, largely as a result of various voter initiatives and a 2/3 requirement to pass a budget.

All in all, the California political system has so many checks and balances that it is almost impossible to effectively govern.

Posted by: zcezcest1 | January 22, 2010 2:53 PM | Report abuse

Wow Moe - laughing, but consider the line crossed and in the rear-view mirror...

Posted by: Rypien11 | January 22, 2010 2:54 PM | Report abuse

"Hurry your fat, Cailifornia gay ass up and update us on something new."

This might force him to give us updates on things we don't want to read about:

a. the best way to apply lubricating oils

b. hemorriod medicines we should avoid

c. how to make a salty thing tasty and fresh

d. when not to spit, when to swallow

e. the best way to determine who's a 'top and who's a 'bottom'

f. why being on the 'down low' is really low down

g. which athletes would be your Tiger Woods of choice

...and finally,

h. why tight ends make the best receivers


This is a foobtall blog, isn't it?

Take care--honey!!!

(INSERT a sweet one-eyed wink and massive 'yeeeeeeech' from homophobic RI Nation bloggas.)


Posted by: MistaMoe

Or 'I': How to remove turd stains from the front and back of your boxer briefs.

Posted by: RedDMV | January 22, 2010 2:55 PM | Report abuse

I bet you all of those young receivers will show dramatic improvement with Shanahan at the wheel. I also bet that ARE's days are numbered and Moss is not far behind.

Posted by: RedSkinHead | January 22, 2010 2:52 PM

This is because Vinny was a better talent evaluator than Zorn was a coach. Or, damning VC with faint praise.

Vinny's not going to be on the Redskins payroll much longer. Think he'll get a big going-away party and present like Conan's?

Posted by: League-Source | January 22, 2010 3:00 PM | Report abuse

"Hurry your fat, Cailifornia gay ass up and update us on something new."


This might force him to give us updates on things we don't want to read about:

a. the best way to apply lubricating oils

b. hemorriod medicines we should avoid

c. how to make a salty thing tasty and fresh

d. when not to spit, when to swallow

e. the best way to determine who's a 'top and who's a 'bottom'

f. why being on the 'down low' is really low down

g. which athletes would be your Tiger Woods of choice

...and finally,

h. why tight ends make the best receivers


This is a foobtall blog, isn't it?

Take care--honey!!!

(INSERT a sweet one-eyed wink and massive 'yeeeeeeech' from homophobic RI Nation bloggas.)

Posted by: MistaMoe


Or 'I': How to remove turd stains from the front and back of your boxer briefs.

Posted by: RedDMV | January 22, 2010 2:55 PM | Report abuse

Which pillows are the best to bite down on?

Posted by: iH8dallas | January 22, 2010 3:04 PM | Report abuse

So I said, "Then I'd like to phone a friend."

Posted by: 4-12 | January 22, 2010 2:27 PM

...I asked the audience... it didn't turn out so great.

Posted by: DikShuttle | January 22, 2010 3:09 PM | Report abuse

This is because Vinny was a better talent evaluator than Zorn was a coach. Or, damning VC with faint praise.

Vinny's not going to be on the Redskins payroll much longer. Think he'll get a big going-away party and present like Conan's?

Posted by: League-Source | January 22, 2010 3:00 PM
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The big going away party for Vinny begins the day AFTER he is gone.

Posted by: RedSkinHead | January 22, 2010 3:10 PM | Report abuse

Posted by: 4-12 | January 22, 2010 2:27 PM

Way to revive an old joke..

@ Red DMV

I would think San Fran is the gay capital of the US not Atl. Atlanta in known as the down low capital sadly, but its mainly a specific part: Midtown Atl is where the gays hang out or are undercover for the most part. They say there are more single women in Atl then anywhere, the problem is, alot of the women in Atl are gay too or bi-sexual, lol.

Posted by: ga8085 | January 22, 2010 3:11 PM | Report abuse

I bet you all of those young receivers will show dramatic improvement with Shanahan at the wheel. I also bet that ARE's days are numbered and Moss is not far behind.

Posted by: RedSkinHead | January 22, 2010 2:52 PM

I think they'll all show improvement simply due to scheme, but there's a couple questions I'd like to pose here:

1. Is Favre right? Do you either have it or you don't in terms of being a "receiver"? Can you coach those things (shielding corners, leverage, etc)

2. Based on what we've seen, which of our guys have those uncoachable receiver intangibles?

I'm asking because I want to get excited about some of the players we do have, see who we're going to be building on, and look at some of the potential that exists on this team.

And receiver's one of the few positions where we got a lot of young athletic dudes. Who's taking the next step?

To me the offseason's not just about who are we going to get, it's about who's going to develop.

Posted by: manifested | January 22, 2010 3:17 PM | Report abuse

I have a strong feeling that with Mcdaniels track record, mr "slipped on a dorito bag" gashed my arm Brandon Marshall days as a Bronco come to a close end. I wonder if a team is willing to trade one of there second round draft pics at the same position for him......

Posted by: sthai75 | January 22, 2010 3:18 PM | Report abuse

Am I on the Seahawks Insider blog?

Posted by: iH8dallas | January 22, 2010 3:20 PM | Report abuse

1. Is Favre right? Do you either have it or you don't in terms of being a "receiver"? Can you coach those things (shielding corners, leverage, etc)

Posted by: manifested | January 22, 2010 3:17 PM

Hard to argue with a Bret Favre, but I noticed a big difference between Fred Davis before he played regularly and after he played regularly. He was the same guy, so I'm thinking most of the difference was the result of coaching.

Posted by: League-Source | January 22, 2010 3:21 PM | Report abuse

I want more.

I want Iupati at 4.

And damn the mock drafts.

Posted by: MistaMoe | January 22, 2010 2:27 PM | Report abuse

No, OKUNG, OKUNG, OKUNG

Posted by: glawrence007 | January 22, 2010 3:21 PM | Report abuse

Hey Moe - Harvin (YA BOY (Kornheiser)) is questionable with migraines... although I'd be shocked if he wasn't on the field Sunday...

Posted by: Rypien11 | January 22, 2010 3:22 PM | Report abuse

Am I on the Seahawks Insider blog?

Posted by: iH8dallas | January 22, 2010 3:20 PM

No, you're just being a pud head. Same as most of the rest of us up here, just in a different way.

Posted by: League-Source | January 22, 2010 3:23 PM | Report abuse

Hard to argue with a Bret Favre, but I noticed a big difference between Fred Davis before he played regularly and after he played regularly. He was the same guy, so I'm thinking most of the difference was the result of coaching.


Posted by: League-Source | January 22, 2010 3:21 PM | Report abuse

Looks like the same guy who loves to tip ball to defensive backs to me.

Posted by: glawrence007 | January 22, 2010 3:23 PM | Report abuse

Hey Moe - Harvin (YA BOY (Kornheiser)) is questionable with migraines... although I'd be shocked if he wasn't on the field Sunday...

Posted by: Rypien11 | January 22, 2010 3:22 PM

He's battled migranes all season. He'll take an imitrex and be fine for gameday.

Posted by: Diesel44 | January 22, 2010 3:25 PM | Report abuse

Posted by: RedDMV | January 22, 2010 3:25 PM | Report abuse

I bet you all of those young receivers will show dramatic improvement with Shanahan at the wheel. I also bet that ARE's days are numbered and Moss is not far behind.

Posted by: RedSkinHead
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You presume that Moss and ARE didn't suffer just as much under Zorn's offense. I on the other hand think they did suffer, a lot.

I think you'll see Moss return to awesomeness.

ARE might get cut because there just aren't enough balls to go around and he's to old and not good enough to spend time on in a rebuilding year.

But if he stays I think he'll look better too. There were flashes of ARE looking good this year, and the Shanahans know how to use talent, Zorn did not. So I don't put it beyond hope that ARE makes a good contribution after all.

Posted by: REXskins | January 22, 2010 3:25 PM | Report abuse

Hard to argue with a Bret Favre, but I noticed a big difference between Fred Davis before he played regularly and after he played regularly. He was the same guy, so I'm thinking most of the difference was the result of coaching.


Posted by: League-Source | January 22, 2010 3:21 PM | Report abuse


True. Though I also look at the way a guy like Larry Fitzgerald catches the deep ball with dudes all over him and think there's no way to coach that.

Posted by: manifested | January 22, 2010 3:27 PM | Report abuse

Can we move on to straighter topics....

Vikings vs. Jets in the SB.


This weekend:

Sancheize comes out throwing.
Andrian Peterson will be rode into the ground.

Posted by: 4thFloor | January 22, 2010 3:29 PM | Report abuse

True. Though I also look at the way a guy like Larry Fitzgerald catches the deep ball with dudes all over him and think there's no way to coach that.

Posted by: manifested | January 22, 2010 3:27 PM

Can't coach size and speed, for sure.

Posted by: League-Source | January 22, 2010 3:31 PM | Report abuse

I remember Kornheiser recently enacting Rex Ryan in their Role Play segment...

He also was Harrison Ford that same day.

Wlibon: Harrison I hear that you don't work hard any more, what gives?

Ford (Kornheiser): I ALREADY WORK AROUND THE CLOCK!!!

F_cking hilarious...

Posted by: RedDMV | January 22, 2010 3:32 PM | Report abuse

Looks like the same guy who loves to tip ball to defensive backs to me.

Posted by: glawrence007 | January 22, 2010 3:23 PM

I think if JC were more accurate there wouldn't be as many tipped balls. Some of those balls all he could do was get a hand on them.

Posted by: League-Source | January 22, 2010 3:33 PM | Report abuse

"the gay sports leagues are seriously well organized" - WTF??!! Wow, didn't know that existed.

Well you can always look at the bright side - less straight guys to compete for women

Posted by: ga8085 | January 22, 2010 3:33 PM | Report abuse

You presume that Moss and ARE didn't suffer just as much under Zorn's offense. I on the other hand think they did suffer, a lot.

I think you'll see Moss return to awesomeness.

ARE might get cut because there just aren't enough balls to go around and he's to old and not good enough to spend time on in a rebuilding year.

But if he stays I think he'll look better too. There were flashes of ARE looking good this year, and the Shanahans know how to use talent, Zorn did not. So I don't put it beyond hope that ARE makes a good contribution after all.

Posted by: REXskins | January 22, 2010 3:25 PM
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I hear you, but remember, they were both dropping balls before Zorn came along, and there is no amount of practice that's going to turn them into 6' 4", 230 pound receivers. The writing will be on the wall just as soon as they start signing free agent receivers.

Posted by: RedSkinHead | January 22, 2010 3:35 PM | Report abuse

I live in CA, not MA, so I concern myself more with the residual impact of the Bush economic collapse and the failed Schwarzenegger recovery efforts out here.

Posted by: TheCork | January 22, 2010 1:53 PM | Report abuse


Ha ha, it's nice to have Corky back.

And true to gestapo-liberal form, he couldn't resist throwing "Bush" in there as the standard pejorative adjective in the uberliberal common speak.

It's not an economic collapse, it's a "Bush economic collapse".

I wonder if it works both ways. Do we speak of the "Obama unemployment rate" these days?

Sorry about the rainy season; I'm surprised you didn't call them the "Bush mudslides"

Posted by: p1funk | January 22, 2010 3:35 PM | Report abuse

"the gay sports leagues are seriously well organized" - WTF??!! Wow, didn't know that existed.

Well you can always look at the bright side - less straight guys to compete for women

Posted by: ga8085 | January 22, 2010 3:33 PM
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Why wouldn't they be? They already have sh11t packed and they never leave their buddy's behind.

Posted by: RedSkinHead | January 22, 2010 3:36 PM | Report abuse

You presume that Moss and ARE didn't suffer just as much under Zorn's offense. I on the other hand think they did suffer, a lot.

I think you'll see Moss return to awesomeness.

ARE might get cut because there just aren't enough balls to go around and he's to old and not good enough to spend time on in a rebuilding year.

But if he stays I think he'll look better too. There were flashes of ARE looking good this year, and the Shanahans know how to use talent, Zorn did not. So I don't put it beyond hope that ARE makes a good contribution after all.

Posted by: REXskins | January 22, 2010 3:25 PM | Report abuse

Totally agree. I don't think Moss will ever get back to 2005 form, but his numbers should be alot better barring injury.

Posted by: ga8085 | January 22, 2010 3:36 PM | Report abuse

Well you can always look at the bright side - less straight guys to compete for women

Posted by: ga8085 | January 22, 2010 3:33 PM

Or if the women thing doesn't work out for you, you would always have plan B or you can call it plan G if your into catchy acronyms.

Posted by: Diesel44 | January 22, 2010 3:39 PM | Report abuse

Can we move on to straighter topics....

Posted by: 4thFloor


Whatsdamatta, 4th? You a little insecure with how you roll, joe?


4th, is the type of dude who will turn his head or close his eyes when they show only 0.5687 seconds of a dude's ass in a movie.

I guess we can march all the homos down to 'Dike Marsh' off the GW Parkway, slaughter them and then bury 'em.

Posted by: RedDMV | January 22, 2010 3:40 PM | Report abuse

beeps

Posted by: RedDMV | January 22, 2010 3:43 PM | Report abuse

I think if JC were more accurate there wouldn't be as many tipped balls. Some of those balls all he could do was get a hand on them.

Posted by: League-Source | January 22, 2010 3:33 PM

But, but, but JC completed 65% of his passes this year.

*said with complete sarcasm*

Posted by: Diesel44 | January 22, 2010 3:44 PM | Report abuse

Both Moss and ARE seem to drop a lot of easy ones. That's about focus. Hopefully with a more disciplined regime, the players heads will be more in the game.

That said, are we going to be counting on ARE this year? He doesn't seem to be as elusive after the catch anymore. Wouldn't most of us prefer Thomas to be the one catching short passes and getting YAC?

Posted by: manifested | January 22, 2010 3:49 PM | Report abuse

Can we move on to straighter topics....

Posted by: 4thFloor

Yeah, let's move on to straighter topics - like your man crush on Bradford. If he asked you to rub his ailing shoulder, you would have to think twice about it, wouldn't you sugar britches? LOL

Posted by: ga8085 | January 22, 2010 3:57 PM | Report abuse

Anyone have new post email add?

Posted by: mattsoundworld | January 22, 2010 4:57 PM | Report abuse

I'd trade Moss, Thomas and Cooley for Brandon Marshall and an o-lineman.

Posted by: coparker5 | January 23, 2010 6:01 PM | Report abuse

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