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Seems Like Old Times with Springs in FedEx

We exchanged text messages over a couple of days and agreed on a time to rap on the phone, but Shawn Springs still had jokes.

"Why you want to talk to me, brother? It's just the preseason," Springs said today. "You know there ain't nothin' to talk to me about."

I paused for a few seconds until his laughter stopped, and then Springs, as usual, took the lead. With the Washington Redskins playing host to the New England Patriots on Friday, the veteran cornerback will return to FedEx Field for the first time since the team released him in February.

"For me, hopefully, it'll be just like going out to practice," Springs said unprompted. "Like an intra-squad scrimmage, except I've got a different uniform."

For five seasons, Springs, 34, was the Redskins' top corner, and the Alpha Male in a close-knit secondary at one time comprised of four first-round draft picks. "You want a guy who says, 'Hey, this guy is their best guy. Put me on him,'" secondary coach Jerry Gray said. "For us, Shawn was that guy. You can't argue with players like that."

On the field and in the locker room, Springs, who is beginning his 13th season in the league, set the tone with his take-charge approach and buoyant personality, playing a major role in an overall defensive scheme that helped Washington produce four top-10 finishes in his time with the team. Injuries slowed Springs, who grew up in Silver Spring, in his final season, but he still has fond memories of his time with Washington and many strong ties to the team's coaches and players.

It should be like old times for him this week, Springs said, and that's a subject he definitely wanted to talk about.

"There are a lot of guys over there I have a lot of respect for. I mean, I love those guys," Springs said. "But it's not really like a homecoming, that's not the way I'm looking at it, because I still have a relationship with those guys.

"And it's a preseason game. It's not like it's a regular-season game. It's not like a Super Bowl or a playoff game. But it is my hometown. They [the Redskins] brought me in, it was fun and I had a good run. It was a great place for me."

After 20 years in this business, I've learned it's sometimes best to just shut up during interviews and let people talk. Springs, as usual, had a lot to say, so I kept quiet for long stretches.

Springs reminisced about the bond he formed with many of the Redskins' current and
former players after he signed with the team as a free agent before the 2004 season. Springs spent his first seven years with the Seattle Seahawks, who drafted him with the third overall pick out of Ohio State, and "the big deal my first year in Washington was, 'Who is this guy who's replacing [star cornerback] Champ Bailey?' And wearing the same number?' Who is this guy?' That's what they were saying."

In his first season, Springs led the Redskins with six sacks and five interceptions. He is the only defensive back in NFL history to have accomplished that feat in the same season. From that point, it was clear who led the secondary, Gray said.

"When he came in from Seattle, you had guys looking around saying, 'Who's going to be the leader?' He came in and sacked the quarterback, made interceptions and did everything you needed," Gray said. "That's how you get the respect when you come from another place. It's not because you have the name. People want to look and say, 'Why'd they pay this guy this money?' Then when you show it to 'em, show 'em what you do, they say, 'Okay.' It's almost like it's validated. That's what he did for us."

Each week, Springs, who has excelled in press-man coverage throughout his career, would take on the opponent's best receiver. He has been especially effective against the league's productive big receivers, with some of his most memorable encounters occurring against Terrell Owens, his longtime friend and offseason workout partner. Owens signed with the Buffalo Bills in the offseason, so Springs and Owens moved from the NFC East to the AFC East.

"We'd always put him on T.O. because he's a big corner who can run," Gray said. "He's physical; he didn't mind tackling. He's going to give you want you want on the football field."

And Springs stood out among a talented unit. Each member of the Redskins' starting 2007 defensive backfield - Springs, cornerback Carlos Rogers, free safety Sean Taylor and strong safety LaRon Landry - were all selected among the top nine overall picks in their draft classes. Since 1970, the Redskins are the only team to have a secondary with that distinction, according to our friends at the Elias Sports Bureau.

"Now, there was competition. There definitely was competition," Springs said. "But with me and Carlos ... everybody knows how I feel about Carlos. And the friendship I have with [cornerback Fred] Smoot ... it was never like people thought it was. It was always like we were friends and we all had each other's backs. We talked about each other and we had fun. That's rare. And although at times we were disgruntled, people might have been disgruntled about something, it never seemed to affect us. We all stayed tight. Although guys left and Sean passed away, which was hard, when I look at those guys on film, it makes me feel good.

"When [cornerback] DeAngelo [Hall] came in last season, I remember people were always critiquing his attitude and whether he was a bust. But he just came in and played hard. He fit right it with the way we played the game. So when I think about Washington, I think about guys who came in with maybe a knock on 'em or something. But they come in there to play hard, respect each other and keep the tradition of the secondary going. Man, I'm really proud of those guys. I find myself bragging on them too much sometimes. I know that. I know the guys get [upset], but those guys are good, man. They can play, brother."

Springs missed the 2008 season opener against the New York Giants because of a bruised shin and played in only nine games, starting seven, after tearing a calf muscle Sept. 28 against the Dallas Cowboys.

"I laid it on the line for them," Springs said. "A lot of times, people would say, 'You know, he's not there in the offseason.' But Jerry and those guys will tell you, man, I studied in the offseason.. The people who know me know how I go about football preparation and work.

"I'm just thankful that I learned from guys like Jerry Gray, [defensive coordinator] Greg Blache and [safeties coach] Steve Jackson. That's why it really hurt me when I couldn't go out there last year. I just learned so much from those guys and I didn't want to let 'em down."

In an effort to clear cap space to sign free-agent defensive tackle Albert Haynesworth, the Redskins released Springs the day they announced Haynesworth's record $115 million contract. Releasing Springs created about $6 million in cap space prior to Haynesworth signing his deal.

On March 11, the Patriots signed Springs to a three-year contract. He received a $2.7 million signing bonus and has a base salary of $1.75 million this season. Springs started slowly in camp after missing the first two days because of an undisclosed illness he said has healed, "but I've been in the league 13 years, so I'm not worried about that. Once the season starts, I'll get into a groove."

Joining the Patriots has reinvigorated Springs, who has "never been on a team with so much talent. Obviously, playing with guys like Tom Brady, Randy Moss, Fred Taylor, Joey Galloway ... I just love the team. I love the environment. You're so impressed with those guys' work ethic, and it's kind of contagious. You work even harder because you don't want to let anybody down.

"Not that those guys didn't work in Washington. We did. And it's the same kind of feel we had with the defensive-side in Washington. But when you see Tom Brady is the first one in the building, and the way he works, it's contagious. You know why this guy is probably the best player in the NFL and that rubs off on you. I've got a couple more weeks in the preseason and we'll be ready to go."

Despite being eager for a new challenge, Springs's mood is tempered by his father's dire medical situation. Ron Springs, a former Dallas Cowboys running back, has been in a coma in a Dallas hospital since October of 2007 following complications from routine surgery to remove a cyst. In January of 2008, Springs's step mother, Adriane, filed a medical malpractice suit against Ron's doctors.

"That hasn't changed. That's stayed the same. That's still a heavy burden on my heart," Springs said. "It's in the Lord's hands."

As the interview eventually wound down, Springs refocused his thoughts on the friendships he made with players such as middle linebacker London Fletcher and defensive tackle Cornelius Griffin. They will continue to enrich his life, Springs said.

"I could just keep talking about how much respect I have for London or how much I love Griff," Springs said. "You talk about my guys in the secondary, but so many of those guys mean so much to me. And do me a favor and tell Jerry and coach Blache how much I learned from them and how much they helped me. Do that for me."

Done.

The Practice Report

Some developments from the first 15 minutes of practice, from Barry Svrluga:

Fullback Mike Sellers was in full pads and back running through drills, apparently recovering from his bruised knee.

Cornerback Carlos Rogers (calf) was not in pads and did some light jogging on the side.

Offensive tackle Mike Williams (ankle) was also still not in pads, and it seems like his chances of playing Friday night against New England grow dimmer by the day.

A new addition: Running back/kick returner Rock Cartwright was not in pads, wearing a baseball cap. Will get info on his injury when we can.

And offensive tackle Devin Clark continues to be out, just riding a stationary bike.

By Jason Reid  |  August 25, 2009; 2:16 PM ET
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In 2008, I counted 8 times that Campbell led 4th quarter drives that either put us in the lead or tied us up.

Posted by: zcezcest1 | August 25, 2009 2:19 PM | Report abuse

We must've been down by only 3 most of those times because he didnt lead us on too many touchdown drives. Better question - when is the last time we enjoyed a 2 TD lead thanks to SOUP?

Posted by: scottmando

2 TD leads? Not so much. Its funny because Campbell gets all sorts of criticism up here. Some merited. But the idea that Campbell hasn't played well late in close games isn't a criticism that holds up. Now, as to getting big leads ... don't seem to recall too many of those ...

Posted by: zcezcest1 | August 25, 2009 2:26 PM | Report abuse

"Seems Like Old Times with Springs in FedEx"

Like old times with S Springs?

Let me guess, he has a major contract and minor injury issue that blocks him from playing.

Posted by: MistaMoe | August 25, 2009 2:27 PM | Report abuse

Hi!!

Going Down?

Posted by: skinball77 | August 25, 2009 2:29 PM | Report abuse

Addendum.

The O line, run game and defense were better than average, as was the hustle. I think the fans want a QB that wins games and trophies; no matter his name is.

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BeantownGreg1 I was at the game, and believe me both screen pass plays had no chance. The throw that was really bad was the third down one to Moss that was high. Moss had 10 YAC on that one. Interestingly enough, on the first deep ball to Kelly, Moss had come WIDE open on the crossing route about 15-20 yards down field. I understand the skins wanting to get/giving a look at the ball, but I would hope that JC would have gotten Moss the ball on that one during the regular season.

Posted by: TWISI | August 24, 2009 9:20 AM

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This description seems to pertain to reading the field and releasing the ball on time, not so much accuracy. Unfortunately, soupy has progressed little since his sophomore year at Auburn. He reminds me of Jay Schroeder with a higher completion %, yet less Pro-Bowls and playoff appearances. Or more like Schuler, Gus (who at least went 9-7), Ramsey, and George. I think soup will be replaced by week 5 if DC is 1-3.

Posted by: Realness1 | August 24, 2009 4:20 PM

Posted by: Realness1 | August 25, 2009 2:05 PM

Posted by: Realness1 | August 25, 2009 2:33 PM | Report abuse

Wow....

I missed alot. But I have to agree with RedDMV Re: JC and racisim.

I never was in the Obama Camp and it pained me to see all my fellow Black People to flock to him blindly w/o actually vetting the dude. Like Chris Rock said, 'I don't want to vote for President like I am going to the Ice Cream Parlor. "I want Chocalate!"'

Campbell - Same way. We are blinded by the # he bares.....

Other Black QBs I'd rather have - BLeftwich, Tarvaris Jackson, Mike Vick, Josh Johnson, Aaron Brooks.......


The last QB we would all be on agreeance on would be Brad Johnson....

And I saw no one mentioned Jeff Hostetler. Hostetler to Ellard was gold!

Posted by: 4thFloor | August 25, 2009 2:33 PM | Report abuse

Did anybody see that moronic ESPN poll about OchoCinco? The poll asks if OchoCinco took a year off and trained do you think he could play in MLS. What is really stunning is 43% of the country are actually stupid enough to think it's possible. I guess if Tiger threw a thirty yard tight spiral then almost half the country would think he would only need a year of training to play in the NFL. Didn't the Michael Jordan baseball fiasco teach these idiots anything.

Posted by: croftonpost | August 25, 2009 2:36 PM | Report abuse

We are just getting a TON of content up here from the beat reporters. I'm loving this.

Posted by: NateinthePDX | August 25, 2009 2:36 PM | Report abuse

Please whoever is the administrator here can you do something about the poster who insists on posting links to a you tube page, the links are stated to be redskin related and when it is clicked on it ends up being some sort of near porn. The poster in question seems to be at the least and attention seeking imbalanced individual or maybe a perv.

Posted by: Deadfish | August 25, 2009 2:36 PM | Report abuse

2 TD leads in 2008? ZERO. 12 points was the biggest lead the Skins had in 2008. 3 in 2007

In JC's 2007 starts, we had 3, 14 point or larger leads. 1 vs Detroit, the painful 'L' to the jints, and vs AZ (though 1 of the TDs was an INT return).

Does Campbell get us to to 2 TD leads?
In Campbell's 28(?) starts in 07 and 08, the Skins have led by 14 or more 3 times.

Posted by: zcezcest1 | August 25, 2009 2:36 PM | Report abuse

Is Albert Haynesworth practicing, or is he still too exhausted from playing an entire series Saturday night?

Posted by: BrooklynSkins | August 25, 2009 2:40 PM | Report abuse

Here's the spring interview with JR !


http://www.youtube.com/user/opinionguy2011

Posted by: HIRE_MARTY_S | August 25, 2009 2:42 PM | Report abuse

I'm a fan of #17, but this is it for JC. Either produce or be riding the pine by Week 5.

Posted by: MrRedskin21 | August 25, 2009 2:42 PM | Report abuse

We are just getting a TON of content up here from the beat reporters. I'm loving this.

Posted by: NateinthePDX | August 25, 2009 2:36 PM |

Sarcasm? Is BS content? Is yadda yaddda yadda content? Is the blog sinking in a Steinbergian bog?

Posted by: TLoad | August 25, 2009 2:42 PM | Report abuse

Springs had herpes?

Posted by: DikShuttle | August 25, 2009 2:43 PM | Report abuse

In 2008, I counted 8 times that Campbell led 4th quarter drives that either put us in the lead or tied us up.

Posted by: zcezcest1 | August 25, 2009 2:19 PM

Z, I only count NO, StL, Sea, SF. Can you tell me the other four games you're counting. I may have missed some.

Posted by: learnedhand1 | August 25, 2009 2:43 PM | Report abuse

Either produce or be riding the pine by Week 5.

Posted by: MrRedskin21 | August 25, 2009 2:42 PM |

Shti or get off the pot! Ski or get off the slope!

Posted by: TLoad | August 25, 2009 2:44 PM | Report abuse

The poster in question seems to be at the least and attention seeking imbalanced individual or maybe a perv.

Posted by: Deadfish

As an attention seeking imbalanced individual I take some offence to that.

Posted by: alex35332 | August 25, 2009 2:44 PM | Report abuse

Here's some practice video !! This defense is awsome !!!!

http://www.youtube.com/user/opinionguy2011

Posted by: HIRE_MARTY_S | August 25, 2009 2:45 PM | Report abuse

4th always says what everyone is thinking. When they're not thinking at all.

Posted by: mack1 | August 25, 2009 2:46 PM | Report abuse

Springs had herpes?

Posted by: DikShuttle | August 25, 2009 2:43 PM |

Shawn New Mexico.

Posted by: TLoad | August 25, 2009 2:46 PM | Report abuse

Oh and as a perv, I take even more offence.

Posted by: alex35332 | August 25, 2009 2:47 PM | Report abuse

You don't know whether OchoCinco could play soccer or not.

He was an accomplished player before High School, but saw more opportunity in foobaw.

So try not to knock an ultra-talented successful athlete... from tha 305.

Beach High was no joke.

Posted by: DikShuttle | August 25, 2009 2:50 PM | Report abuse

The poster in question seems to be at the least and attention seeking imbalanced individual or maybe a perv.

Posted by: Deadfish


I'm sure you dream of football players in your sleep. Why don't you like this video of CHASE throwing Kelly a TD.


http://www.youtube.com/user/opinionguy2011

Posted by: HIRE_MARTY_S | August 25, 2009 2:50 PM | Report abuse

Springs had herpes?

Posted by: DikShuttle | August 25, 2009 2:43 PM


Did springs call out brady in this VIDEO ?

http://www.youtube.com/user/opinionguy2011


Posted by: HIRE_MARTY_S | August 25, 2009 2:52 PM | Report abuse

lmao @load

Posted by: DikShuttle | August 25, 2009 2:52 PM | Report abuse

Just to complete the Campbell and 2 TD leads. In 2006 -- we led the Rams and Falcons by 2 TDs, and lost both of those games.

In summary, Campbell has had 5 games in his career where the Skins led by 2 TDs, all in either '06 and '07. We won 2 of the 5 ...

The DET game in '07 is the only game where the Skins led by over 14 points in all of Campbell's career starts.

Posted by: zcezcest1 | August 25, 2009 2:52 PM | Report abuse

Posted by: HIRE_MARTY_S | August 25, 2009 2:52 PM |

Marty Scorcese or Marty Schottenheimer?

Posted by: TLoad | August 25, 2009 2:54 PM | Report abuse

T-bagging Mary as in Halo3

Posted by: DikShuttle | August 25, 2009 2:54 PM | Report abuse

Content is in the eye of the beholder, TLoad. The words per post count is very high, and as I read it the quality has been high as well. And perhaps coincidentally, the conversation in the comments has been a-flowing, though its quality hasn't been consistently as high.

Posted by: NateinthePDX | August 25, 2009 2:54 PM | Report abuse

I say give Campbell 3 games. 2 of those are against Rams and the Lions. If he doesn't produce, sack his ass on the bench. Give anyone else a chance. At this point it doesn't matter. We need wins.

Posted by: TheJury | August 25, 2009 2:56 PM | Report abuse

Content is in the eye of the beholder, TLoad. The words per post count is very high, and as I read it the quality has been high as well. And perhaps coincidentally, the conversation in the comments has been a-flowing, though its quality hasn't been consistently as high.

Posted by: NateinthePDX | August 25, 2009 2:54 PM |

Darn that HIRE_MARTY_S and his sock puppet theater.

Posted by: TLoad | August 25, 2009 3:01 PM | Report abuse

Hey's just recieved some video of kelly on CC saying J-Z gave him the green light to be the number 2 this season.


http://www.youtube.com/user/opinionguy2011

Posted by: HIRE_MARTY_S | August 25, 2009 3:09 PM | Report abuse

In 2008, I counted 8 times that Campbell led 4th quarter drives that either put us in the lead or tied us up.

Posted by: zcezcest1 | August 25, 2009 2:19 PM

Z, I only count NO, StL, Sea, SF. Can you tell me the other four games you're counting. I may have missed some.

Posted by: learnedhand1

A few blog posts ago, I counted 8 close games where Campbell came up good in the 4th Q. Some were not comebacks or breaking ties, but scoring in very close games to give us a two score cushion.

AZ, we were tied entering the 4th and won by 7. So its 5 games where a tie was broken or we came from behind.

The close games. Cle, where we scored a TD to put us up 11 and won by 3. dal, where we scored 2 FGs to take a lead from 3 points to 9 points and won by 2. phil where we had a 2 point lead, scored a TD to go up 9 and won by 6.

The last 3 aren't "comebacks", but they were all very close games (leads of 2-4 points) where we scored to put us up 2 scores ... then won by less than 7.

Learned, wasn't quite accurate in my earlier post ... but the point is still the same. In close games in the 4th quarter, Campbell has been good.

Posted by: zcezcest1 | August 25, 2009 3:09 PM | Report abuse

TLoad, again, there are two tools at our disposal:

1. ignore the assclown

2. "Report abuse"

Learn it, know it, live it.

Posted by: NateinthePDX | August 25, 2009 3:09 PM | Report abuse

HIRE MARTY S,
if you're gay, I'm okay with that, but you really should stop luring people into your homemade videos. We get it, you love sausage. Now go get rick rolled.

Posted by: pgugino | August 25, 2009 3:14 PM | Report abuse

I love Shawn Springs, and I wish he could have been just a tiny bit healthier during his stay here, because then we could focus on how well he played instead of grumbling about his injury woes.

Posted by: NateinthePDX | August 25, 2009 3:15 PM | Report abuse

You don't know whether OchoCinco could play soccer or not.

He was an accomplished player before High School, but saw more opportunity in foobaw.

So try not to knock an ultra-talented successful athlete... from tha 305.

Beach High was no joke.

Posted by: DikShuttle | August 25, 2009 2:50 PM | Report abuse

Let me guess, you're one of the 43% in this country that are idiots. I can unequivocally state with 100% certainty that he could not play professional soccer with one year of training. I never said he wasn't a good soccer player at one time but it takes more than a year of training to play at the highest level in any sport. It is not a question of athleticism but of skill that takes years to acquire. To think otherwise is MORONIC!

Posted by: croftonpost | August 25, 2009 3:15 PM | Report abuse

TLoad, again, there are two tools at our disposal:

1. ignore the assclown

2. "Report abuse"

Learn it, know it, live it.

Posted by: NateinthePDX | August 25, 2009 3:09 PM


TLoad, again, there are two tools at my disposal:

1: keep posting
2: create a new account
3: keep posting
4: the more you report the more I will post
5: deal with it
6: enjoy the video


Here's the video of practice there talking about.


http://www.youtube.com/user/opinionguy2011

Posted by: HIRE_MARTY_S | August 25, 2009 3:17 PM | Report abuse

Hey's just recieved some video of kelly on CC saying J-Z gave him the green light to be the number 2 this season.


http://www.youtube.com/user/opinionguy2011

Posted by: HIRE_MARTY_S | August 25, 2009 3:09 PM

Thanks for sharing the info.

What do you think of the season?

Posted by: 4thFloor | August 25, 2009 3:18 PM | Report abuse

How long is the turnaround on rickrolling, eh, abuse reporting.

I get in pretty early - I can catch him then... tho I'm fine w/ the ITA option, too.

whatever the mighty RI wishes. 'sup Mayor?

Posted by: DikShuttle | August 25, 2009 3:18 PM | Report abuse

HIRE MARTY S,
if you're gay, I'm okay with that, but you really should stop luring people into your homemade videos. We get it, you love sausage. Now go get rick rolled.

Posted by: pgugino | August 25, 2009 3:14 PM


Here goes the video in question !


http://www.youtube.com/user/opinionguy2011

Posted by: HIRE_MARTY_S | August 25, 2009 3:19 PM | Report abuse

I love Shawn Springs, and I wish he could have been just a tiny bit healthier during his stay here, because then we could focus on how well he played instead of grumbling about his injury woes.

Posted by: NateinthePDX

I agree and I've always thought many fans underrated his performance. That said--and it hurts to say this b/c of how much money Snyder forked over--Haynesworth should impact this defense much more, putting aside injuries. And I do think that Hall and Rogers will be able to make more plays with an improved pass rush.

Posted by: pgugino | August 25, 2009 3:20 PM | Report abuse

Me being a moron or not has no bearing on the fact that you don't know what he could or could not do, so maybe your comment posting sjk should shut the sjk up.

Maybe he could. Maybe he couldn't. You don't know. Shut up.

...maps...

Posted by: DikShuttle | August 25, 2009 3:21 PM | Report abuse

Time for WaPo to ban the Hire Marty/FireJimZorn azz

Posted by: noonefromtampa | August 25, 2009 3:24 PM | Report abuse

4th, Brad Johnson was a winner, as we know.

Posted by: Realness1 | August 25, 2009 3:24 PM | Report abuse

I do know. You obviously have no clue about the sport. I played both. You're the one that needs to shut up. You're making a fool of yourself.

Posted by: croftonpost | August 25, 2009 3:25 PM | Report abuse

You've played Pro football and pro soccer?

really? You're my heeero.

And you're the idiot. And bitter.

Posted by: DikShuttle | August 25, 2009 3:26 PM | Report abuse

Thanks Z. I missed the 15 yd drive he led against the Cards to give the 'Skins the lead.

Posted by: learnedhand1 | August 25, 2009 3:26 PM | Report abuse

From my experience in talking to the typical ESPN sniffing US Sports but not soccer fan, they all believe that any pro football or basketball player of any consequence would dominate a soccer game given minimal training.

It's bizarre.

At least I've never heard anyone say it about a baseball player. Yet.

Posted by: JkR- | August 25, 2009 2:45 PM | Report abuse

Posted by: croftonpost | August 25, 2009 3:27 PM | Report abuse

Not the least bit bitter. See the comment above. Well said.

Posted by: croftonpost | August 25, 2009 3:28 PM | Report abuse

3. block the IP

problem solved

Posted by: noonefromtampa | August 25, 2009 3:29 PM | Report abuse

If I could, I would pay Chad Johnson to go play MLS. Permanently.

The guy is a d-bag, from his stupid name change to his wearing a HOF jacket on the sidelines after a TD, and the list goes on and on.

He's more hype than substance, and he brought it all on himself.

However, he's an ESPN favorite. And why not? When a channel covers sports 24 hours a day, any available freak show makes good copy.

Posted by: MrRedskin21 | August 25, 2009 3:29 PM | Report abuse

Anyone else feel bad for Ron Jaworski that Mike Vick is in fact wearing jersey no 7.

Posted by: alex35332 | August 25, 2009 3:33 PM | Report abuse

MLS wouldn't want him. His antics would work well in the Mexican First Division. They love crybabies done there.

Posted by: croftonpost | August 25, 2009 3:34 PM | Report abuse

Ok, just to talk sense, you're talking about a guy with world class speed who knows a great deal about soccer and whether he can play AMERICAN professional soccer. The same league that drafted and started a 14 year old.... [:-|

I don't think it's a stretch to say Ocho Cinco could find a spot on some roster in the MLS.

You think he couldn't. Understood. But it's not moronic to think that he could. MLS is one of the worst pro leagues in the world... For a world class athelete to get a gig there is not a stretch.

Your absolute position has you removed from reason

Posted by: DikShuttle | August 25, 2009 3:34 PM | Report abuse


I say give Campbell 3 games. 2 of those are against Rams and the Lions. If he doesn't produce, sack his ass on the bench. Give anyone else a chance. At this point it doesn't matter. We need wins.

Posted by: TheJury | August 25, 2009 2:56 PM

If receivers keep dropping balls that hits them in the chest, why blame Capmbell? My prediction this year is that Redskins will go 13W 3L. I also believe that one loss will come from Dallas and one from Carolina, the other loss is questionable to whom. NYG and Philly will be swept. Taking $1G bet.

Posted by: abxinc | August 25, 2009 3:35 PM | Report abuse

I like the soccer dude at the 31 second mark...

http://www.whoateallthepies.tv/2009/08/bolivian_footba_1.html

Posted by: 4-12 | August 25, 2009 3:36 PM | Report abuse

3. block the IP

problem solved

Posted by: noonefromtampa | August 25, 2009 3:29 PM


LOL,
You guys are really funny. "block the IP"
Go ahead block one of my neighbors IP LOL
I'll just jump on another one. Who cares right. Don't waist your time reporting me. Will be back up in 2min. I have 30 ip add on stand by LOL.

THANK "GOD" FOR WIRELESS INTERNET

Here's the video they has everyone mad !


http://www.youtube.com/user/opinionguy2011


Posted by: HIRE_MARTY_S | August 25, 2009 3:36 PM | Report abuse

I think the Skins are really going to miss Springs. He was the glue back there. I don't see anybody in the secondary filling the leadership role he brought day in and day out. Maybe Smoot but I'm not convinced he'll make the team.

Posted by: croftonpost | August 25, 2009 3:36 PM | Report abuse

Ohhh - so your problems are with Ocho Cinco. Well, then you're just a pure H8r. He's a badass receiver and his attitude is a little over the top. U hate on CPo, too?

I'll take 85 any day.

Posted by: DikShuttle | August 25, 2009 3:37 PM | Report abuse

like the soccer dude at the 31 second mark

http://www.youtube.com/user/opinionguy2011

Posted by: 4-12 | August 25, 2009 3:36 PM


gREAT video

Posted by: HIRE_MARTY_S | August 25, 2009 3:38 PM | Report abuse

4th, you're a racists because you doubt Jason Campbell. And I take it you're a "brother", if so i don't care because blacks can hate on black QBs just like whites.

ufb.. smh at this peaceful2008 dude and anyone who was co-signing their bs.

Brad Johnson was "him" while he was here in D.C.

Oh and D-Hall was lunchin' on the sports bog today. lol

Posted by: RedDMV | August 25, 2009 3:38 PM | Report abuse

Shawn Springs 2004-05 was the man.

2007-2008 mostly stealing paychecks and making claims like no way I miss a division game. Then missed the opener in NY.

Posted by: ToddStinkston | August 25, 2009 3:39 PM | Report abuse

My prediction this year is that Redskins will go 13W 3L. I also believe that one loss will come from Dallas and one from Carolina, the other loss is questionable to whom. NYG and Philly will be swept. Taking $1G bet.

Posted by: abxinc | August 25, 2009 3:35 PM |

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$1K on 13-3?

abxinc, you're either pulling our leg or you're a degenerate gambler.

Which is it?

Posted by: MrRedskin21 | August 25, 2009 3:40 PM | Report abuse

Anyone else feel bad for Ron Jaworski that Mike Vick is in fact wearing jersey no 7.

Posted by: alex35332


In a word: Nope.

Posted by: RedDMV | August 25, 2009 3:40 PM | Report abuse

Thanks Z. I missed the 15 yd drive he led against the Cards to give the 'Skins the lead.

Posted by: learnedhand1

I'm just looking at box scores, not play by play. My memories of each game, each drive ... not so great!!

Plenty of folks are criticizing Campbell -- and some of it is deserved. Some of it, like how he does in the 4th quarter of close games, isn't. Just trying to separate facts and fictions.

Posted by: zcezcest1 | August 25, 2009 3:40 PM | Report abuse

lmao @ REDD

Posted by: DikShuttle | August 25, 2009 3:41 PM | Report abuse

Well then. On the bright side, if we ever have a "Boren Ultimatum, Part Deux" we should get to 400,000 pretty quickly...

Posted by: 4-12 | August 25, 2009 3:41 PM | Report abuse

Shawn Springs could never stay healthy. Gotta love him, D.Hall isn't going to be able to full his shoes. And Rogers wants outta DC as fast as he drops an interception. Man, you gotta give it to Gibbs and Williams for drafting and building a super awsome defense. We'll see that in another year or two all of that hard work will be undone by idiot Cerrato. God, I hate to love the redskins so much.

Posted by: BMACattack | August 25, 2009 3:41 PM | Report abuse

Dikshuttle,

This will be it about this. You just don't get it. The sport takes major, major, skill that takes years to acquire. Do you think he could hit a MLB curve ball next year? Stick handle with Ovechkin next year? Putt with Tiger? Track and Field, that we could talk about. Sports that require years of training, no way. It has nothing to do with his athleticism.

Posted by: croftonpost | August 25, 2009 3:42 PM | Report abuse

"I don't think it's a stretch to say Ocho Cinco could find a spot on some roster in the MLS."

Not really a stretch, more like a full-on tear.

OchoCinco earning a roster spot in the MLS, outside of a publicity stunt, is equivalent to Usain Bolt earning a roster spot on the Washington Redskins.

Posted by: psps23 | August 25, 2009 3:43 PM | Report abuse

Crofton,

14 years old. Starting. You're wrong.

Posted by: DikShuttle | August 25, 2009 3:44 PM | Report abuse

That is, Usain Bolt when he turns 30.

Posted by: psps23 | August 25, 2009 3:44 PM | Report abuse

psp, you too.

Sorry. It's not ridiculous to think he could. It may be wrong. It's not ridiculous.

Posted by: DikShuttle | August 25, 2009 3:45 PM | Report abuse

$1K on 13-3?

abxinc, you're either pulling our leg or you're a degenerate gambler.

Which is it?

Posted by: MrRedskin21 | August 25, 2009 3:40 PM

I don't joke, I can take up to max 50 bets.

Posted by: abxinc | August 25, 2009 3:46 PM | Report abuse

In a word: Nope.

Posted by: RedDMV | August 25, 2009 3:40 PM | Report abuse

K, guess its just me then.

Posted by: alex35332 | August 25, 2009 3:49 PM | Report abuse

Anyone else feel bad for Ron Jaworski that Mike Vick is in fact wearing jersey no 7.

Posted by: alex35332

It should be the other way around. If JAworski is the best Philly ever had, I can understand why thier fans act so uppity and rude...

Posted by: 4thFloor | August 25, 2009 3:50 PM | Report abuse

"Mike Florio of PFT is reporting that the Washington Redskins have reached out to Usain Bolt in an attempt to gauge his interest in a professional football career. Bolt has long been a fan of the sport, and is said to be as smitten with the Redskins as they are with him. Stay tuned"

Posted by: BeantownGreg1 | August 25, 2009 3:50 PM | Report abuse

Actually, it is ridiculous. It may be right, in a 1 out of 10,000 chance sort of way, but it is pretty ridiculous to plausibly think that.

Posted by: psps23 | August 25, 2009 3:50 PM | Report abuse

A while back I was wondering which major sport could arguably be considered to have the best athletes (overall, not just stars).

And it seemed to me it would have to be soccer.

Here's the argument. Basketball has many great athletes, but the sport has a disproportionate number of extra tall people, drawn from the top end of the scale -- a relatively small population. Football also has many great athletes, but draws a disproportionate share of the extra-strong -- another relatively small subpop. Ice hockey players are closer to the average in size, but world-wide, not that many people play ice hockey in comparison to some other sports. Tennis might be more popular, but again, in comparison with soccer, not many people play tennis.

Soccer is the world's most played team sport, and even at the highest levels, is played by average-sized persons and smaller -- the most numerous population segment. The game itself requires extraordinary coordination and conditioning.

Isn't it reasonable to presume that the best soccer players in the world also represent a disproportionate number of the world's best athletes?


Posted by: Samson151 | August 25, 2009 3:50 PM | Report abuse

Oh, and I have no problem getting Bolt into training camp. Sorry. Speed rules.

Posted by: DikShuttle | August 25, 2009 3:51 PM | Report abuse

"Posted by: HIRE_MARTY_S | August 25, 2009 2:52 PM |

Marty Scorcese or Marty Schottenheimer?"

Suck on this, HIRE MARTY S:


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FbaETHAM0Og

Posted by: frak | August 25, 2009 3:51 PM | Report abuse

BeantownGreg1,
You got me.

Posted by: alex35332 | August 25, 2009 3:52 PM | Report abuse

"Offensive tackle Mike Williams (ankle) was also still not in pads, and it seems like his chances of playing Friday night against New England grow dimmer by the day."


So can we cross him off the list of names where "Roydell Williams" was once listed as the fifth receiver?

Go for it.

Should M Williams be cut?

Sure

What about Alridge?

He's fast..he'll be gone and no one will notice.

Would you put S Burley on the practice squad?

I'd put any lineman type player cut by the jints or ravens on the practice squad 1st.

Are you going to cut A Dixon?

Let me think on that.

What about Eloi?

He can't jump out of the Turk's clutches.

What about Hagans?

Who?

And between Chase n' Colt, who are you taking?

I'll shoot Colt and chase Daniels.

Posted by: MistaMoe | August 25, 2009 3:53 PM | Report abuse

Sigh, Bugel has learned to get better at making excuses. Making Danny boy happy? Still remembering how he went after Riggo when he criticized Gibbs coaching "motivation".

I wonder how long Samuels knee will hold up? How long will it be before they switch Heyer over and bring ??? in to replace Heyer at right tackle? Still wondering who the backup center will be if they move all the possibles to guard?

Sorry, I just don't see it. House of cards waiting for a little wind to ...

Posted by: periculum | August 25, 2009 3:54 PM | Report abuse

Bullet Bob Hayes was the 100 champ and is a new NFL Hall of Famer. Apparently, he thought of himself as a fast football player; not a track star that tried to play football, from the quotes I read.

Posted by: Realness1 | August 25, 2009 3:57 PM | Report abuse

OchoCinco earning a roster spot in the MLS, outside of a publicity stunt, is equivalent to Usain Bolt earning a roster spot on the Washington Redskins.
Posted by: psps23

Might not be a bad idea. The dude is 6'5" and weighs about a buck ninety or so.
Compare that with ARE, for size, then add in the fact that Bolt is the fastest man on the planet.
Kickoff/punt returner?
Talk amongst yerselves...

Posted by: RedskinWillie | August 25, 2009 3:58 PM | Report abuse

Usain Bolt to the 'skins?

Yessssssss.


But if Bolt did want to play WR, he'd damn sure have the showboat, diva like attitude that goes along with being a WR.

With that said: I'm a fan of Bolt's swag. You'd act arrogant too if you knew on one in the world (I said da wurld, Craig) could catch you.

Posted by: RedDMV | August 25, 2009 3:58 PM | Report abuse

Samson

It depends on what makes one "the best athletes". We talking raw ability, endurance, psychology?

Soccer is probably the simplest sport to learn and play. It takes endurance and good eye foot coordination, thats about it. Hockey, and Baseball are complex sports, require multiple types of training in terms of hitting a ball or puck, offence and defense.

Posted by: alex35332 | August 25, 2009 3:58 PM | Report abuse

I think the Skins are really going to miss Springs. He was the glue back there. I don't see anybody in the secondary filling the leadership role he brought day in and day out. Maybe Smoot but I'm not convinced he'll make the team.
Posted by: croftonpost

I don't agree, but I get your point. Of all the high priced talent that left town (Jason Taylor, Jansen, Washington), Springs is the one guy that I suspect we'll miss the most. Though he missed games, he was valuable when he played.

I think mgmt made the right move to let him go. But, I also think we'll miss him.

Posted by: zcezcest1 | August 25, 2009 4:01 PM | Report abuse

sorry al, sometimes thats too hard to pass up....you can pretty much claim PFT is quoting anything, and it has a nugget of truth to it.....

Posted by: BeantownGreg1 | August 25, 2009 4:02 PM | Report abuse

beeps

Posted by: BeantownGreg1 | August 25, 2009 4:03 PM | Report abuse

Anyone else feel bad for Ron Jaworski that Mike Vick is in fact wearing jersey no 7.

Posted by: alex35332 | August 25, 2009 3:33 PM | Report abuse
cuz jaws is at the epitome of football greatness right? get real. hate on vick all u want, i bet he's better than favre this year.

Posted by: lilhollywood10 | August 25, 2009 4:04 PM | Report abuse

Hey U Bolt, remember Renaldo Nehemiah

career stats - 3 year career

43 receptions for 754 yards, a 17.5 average, and 4 touchdowns

better that B.Lloyd though

Posted by: noonefromtampa | August 25, 2009 4:05 PM | Report abuse

"Soccer is probably the simplest sport to learn and play."

I'd argue differently. At the top level, I'd say it goes: basketball, baseball, soccer, then hockey. Football can range from the most difficult (QB) to relatively simple (Special Teamers) depending on which position you're learning.

Foot-eye coordination is indescribably more difficult than hand-eye coordination, on any level. Particularly in football and basketball, there are numerous stories of athletes starting to play football around high school (sometimes very late in high school) and end up playing at an extremely high level professionally. I challenge anyone to say the same about a soccer athlete. I've been around and studied the game and its athletes my entire life, and I can't name a single story reflecting as such. It takes an inordinate amount of time to master the technique needed to play, and you have to begin at a very, very young age. The only possible position that this may work with is as a goalkeeper. No other position on the field can you simply stick an athlete, train for a year (or even a few) and expect him to play at a professional level.

Posted by: psps23 | August 25, 2009 4:10 PM | Report abuse

Isn't it reasonable to presume that the best soccer players in the world also represent a disproportionate number of the world's best athletes?

Posted by: Samson151 | August 25, 2009 3:50 PM | Report abuse

Absolutely. Never really looked at it that way but you make a great point.

Soccer is probably the simplest sport to learn and play. It takes endurance and good eye foot coordination, thats about it. Hockey, and Baseball are complex sports, require multiple types of training in terms of hitting a ball or puck, offence and defense.

But soccer is probably the hardest to learn to do because you use uour feet with skill which is something we aren't use to doing. I agree about the quickest to learn and play along with basketball. That is why both sports are played by so many.

I think mgmt made the right move to let him go. But, I also think we'll miss him.

Posted by: zcezcest1 | August 25, 2009 4:01 PM | Report abuse

I also think Mgmt made the right move. Along withyou I just see his leadership as a big void to fill.

Posted by: croftonpost | August 25, 2009 4:16 PM | Report abuse

Springs is a good guy who unfortunately was not healthy enough to significantly contribute to our team. Wish he and his family the best of luck, but I do not miss watching him sit on the bench while collecting $8MM from us. Cheers.

Posted by: MPNangle | August 25, 2009 6:23 PM | Report abuse

Guess its about time to pull the plug on the Mike Williams experiment, skins would be better off investing a roster spot on the center from Maryland than big Mike. I wouldn't be mad if they kept Mason and Dorsey and got rid of Betts too.

Posted by: coparker5 | August 25, 2009 7:13 PM | Report abuse

MPNangle:

But you'll miss him when shut down time comes in games, and CARLOS or DeANGELO are the best that can be called upon to do the job.

Posted by: glawrence007 | August 25, 2009 7:19 PM | Report abuse

Springs was the ultimate T.O. blanket, no more no less than that. Our present secondary blows.

Posted by: bernard_thompson | August 26, 2009 7:02 AM | Report abuse

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