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Shanahan's plan will become clearer over next month

The end of the Super Bowl marks the beginning of the NFL's offseason, which figures to be a busy time for the Redskins' new management team.

Coach Mike Shanahan and General Manager Bruce Allen have revealed little publicly about their plans for a team coming off consecutive last-place finishes in the NFC East. But it seems obvious the roster needs to be improved after last season's 4-12 debacle in which the Redskins had one of the league's least effective offensive lines, no running backs with "home run" potential and gave up too many big passing plays because of breakdowns in the secondary.

The Redskins currently hold the No. 4 overall pick in the three-day draft (April 22-24). In addition to Washington's No. 1 pick, it also has selections in the second, fourth, fifth and seventh rounds. In order to select defensive lineman Jeremy Jarmon in the previous supplemental draft, the Redskins surrendered their third-round pick. Their sixth-round pick went to the Miami Dolphins in the Jason Taylor trade.

The offensive line would seem to be an obvious place to start for Allen and Shanahan, especially with the expected retirement of Pro Bowl left tackle Chris Samuels because of a severe neck injury. But Shanahan is eager to draft and develop a young quarterback, a league source familiar with his thinking said recently, and former Oklahoma quarterback Sam Bradford has been linked with the Redskins in most early mock drafts. Former Notre Dame quarterback Jimmy Clausen also often has been listed as a possible top pick of the Redskins.

A Redskins contingent will be in Indianapolis for the combine that begins Feb. 24, and free agency and the trading period begin March 5. Regardless how they attempt to fill needs, the Redskins appear to have glaring deficiencies along the offensive line and at cornerback behind top corner DeAngelo Hall.

Despite his obvious physical gifts, safety LaRon Landry appeared to regress last season. And will Pro Bowl defensive tackle Albert Haynesworth, who expressed frustration about the team's disciplined 4-3 defensive scheme last season, be content playing nose tackle, even if only occasionally, in the 3-4 scheme new defensive coordinator Jim Haslett might switch to next season?

One way or another, the plan Shanahan and Allen have to rebuild the Redskins will become clearer soon.

By Jason Reid  |  February 9, 2010; 10:29 AM ET
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I doubt the Skins have any interest in the mammoth Guard out of Iowa Iupati, he doesnt fit the smallish lineman needed to run the zone system.... Oh yeah and FIRST!! Igbo kwenu!

Posted by: Istudydrugs | February 9, 2010 10:43 AM | Report abuse

I just dont see how ShannAllen doesnt pick OL with the 1st pick. I mean, Samuels probably retiring, limited FA market this year with the CBA a no-go, looking at the current OL on the roster, having JC who can at least fill in for another season before they draft a "franchise QB" and missing 2 draft picks thanks to snyderatto. I will say the Jarmon pick was a good one, but with switching to a 34 D, will he fit into the defensive scheme?

Posted by: VaBeachBlitz | February 9, 2010 10:48 AM | Report abuse

Fiurst!!

Posted by: jiza32 | February 9, 2010 10:50 AM | Report abuse

Gotta trade down with Seattle for #14 and #40 or S.F. for #13 and #47.

Posted by: Rypien11 | February 9, 2010 10:53 AM | Report abuse

I hope part of the plan is to part with Cancer Portis. This whole spat with LaVar is the last straw. Any Redskin commenting publicly on anything other than how hard they're working to actually win should be fined for conduct detrimental. In idiot Portis' case, he has worn out his welcome.

Posted by: Allan2 | February 9, 2010 10:53 AM | Report abuse

Another nice negatively slanted article about the Redskins....at least the Wa Post is consistent, if nothing else. I'm expecting more and more stories like this, as the new regime handles keeps their plans and business in-house....which allows the Wa Post to do what they do best...use "sources" and "speculation" to try and get everyone all worked up and upset, like they always do.

Posted by: frmi | February 9, 2010 10:54 AM | Report abuse

Hey J Reid,

The draft is a three day process now. First round-Thursday night, second and third rounds on Friday and Saturday has the remainder. Figured you would know that

Posted by: Skins281 | February 9, 2010 11:07 AM | Report abuse

This article really didn't say anything. What we can speculate on is the Redskins will move to a 3-4 and the offensive line will need to become a more agile zone blocking line. It means Carter and possibly McIntosh might not fit in the new defense. It means the offensive line will have a very different cast of characters next season. To me, this - along with no salary cap - means the team will be going through a major overhaul and the team will be very, very busy in free agency and any trades that might help them transform the lines. I can't believe the Post hasn't caught wind of any of that activity.

Posted by: RedSkinHead | February 9, 2010 11:13 AM | Report abuse

Jeez you people complain alot. What a bunch of freakin' cry babies. You sound like little spoiled girls.

Don't look a gift horse in the mouth. You don't like it, feel free to look elsewhere for your news, or make some calls yourself.

Posted by: Rypien11 | February 9, 2010 11:20 AM | Report abuse

J Reid is right it's two days they changed it .

Posted by: MGDMaster21 | February 9, 2010 11:27 AM | Report abuse

Another nice negatively slanted article about the Redskins

Posted by: frmi | February 9, 2010 10:54 AM | Report abuse

How much that is positive can be said about a team that went 4-12 last season? As for using "'sources' and 'speculation,'" that's about all the Post can do since teams normally guard their personnel plans as closely as the feds guard classified material.

Posted by: rbpalmer | February 9, 2010 11:35 AM | Report abuse

Another nice negatively slanted article about the Redskins....at least the Wa Post is consistent, if nothing else. I'm expecting more and more stories like this, as the new regime handles keeps their plans and business in-house...

Posted by: frmi | February 9, 2010 10:54 AM
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Hey frmi..
JReid has to cover the most expensive 4-12 team in NFL history..... I think he would of been justified being MORE negative than he was...

Posted by: SkinsneedaGM | February 9, 2010 11:37 AM | Report abuse

Another nice negatively slanted article about the Redskins

Posted by: frmi | February 9, 2010 10:54 AM |

I respectfully disagree. I can't see anything negative. Can you please tell me where you see a negative slant?

Posted by: Agree2Disagree | February 9, 2010 11:40 AM | Report abuse

"J Reid is right it's two days they changed it ."

Posted by: MGDMaster21


Sorry... the draft is 3 days

Rd. 1: Thurs., April 22, 7:30 p.m. ET
Rd. 2-3: Fri., April 23, 6:30 p.m. ET
Rd. 4-7: Sat., April 24, 10 a.m. ET

And as for the article, it is nothing new... something with a bit of meat to it would be nice... just to satiate us maggots while azz deep in snow!

I think they get two guards in Free Agency... Kuper from Den being one... then use the #4 on a QB if they cannot trade down... then the #37 on an OT... that'll make for a 60% line overhaul.

Posted by: bschaef12 | February 9, 2010 11:41 AM | Report abuse

does anyone know what actually happened between portis and lavar?

i heard lavar went off on his radio show about portis, but don't know why or what it was about

Posted by: AhsanFamily | February 9, 2010 11:41 AM | Report abuse

This team will have A LOT of needs. I just don't see getting it fixed in one year with only 5 draft picks - and most are second day picks. Better to focus on the core and build the lines and maintain the strong D.

One bright spot is if the year is uncapped, expect many teams to purge over-priced players. That may create some key FA acquisitions for us to bridge the transition.

Posted by: edvar | February 9, 2010 11:42 AM | Report abuse

OK...

Most are 3rd day picks.

Posted by: edvar | February 9, 2010 11:45 AM | Report abuse

"One bright spot is if the year is uncapped, expect many teams to purge over-priced players. That may create some key FA acquisitions for us to bridge the transition."

Posted by: edvar

Nice... your thoughts are eerily similar to my own... back tot he man-crush again... as long as they shoot for the twenty something guys vice the 30+ age group... they should be able to improve the O-line, get an RB (LenDale needs a home), a nose tackle and FS... making the draft targeting OT, QB, RB and LB...

Posted by: bschaef12 | February 9, 2010 11:47 AM | Report abuse

"Shanahan's plan will become clearer over next month"
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His RFA status notwithstanding and with no tendered offers in March. A likely scenario considering how deep and rich this years Draft is... Will Jason Campbell again request a trade like last year (the Sanchez chase by Snyder) if Shanahan wants/drafts a QB?

At this stage in JC's career, why should he have to compete for his starting job? He never has in the past? Where is the respect??

Posted by: SkinsneedaGM | February 9, 2010 11:50 AM | Report abuse

does anyone know what actually happened between portis and lavar?

i heard lavar went off on his radio show about portis, but don't know why or what it was about

Posted by: AhsanFamily | February 9, 2010 11:41 AM
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I see a manly-man pay-per-view event.. two guys wearing diamond earrings btch slapping.

Posted by: SkinsneedaGM | February 9, 2010 11:55 AM | Report abuse

@AhsanFamily --

In case you're not being facetious, Portis vs. LaVar is explained in some depth at The Bog:

http://voices.washingtonpost.com/dcsportsbog/2010/02/lavar_arrington_responds_to_cl.html#more

Posted by: WorstSeat | February 9, 2010 11:59 AM | Report abuse

Portis is such a ween.

Posted by: alex35332 | February 9, 2010 12:01 PM | Report abuse

@AhsanFamily --

In case you're not being facetious, Portis vs. LaVar is explained in some depth at The Bog:

http://voices.washingtonpost.com/dcsportsbog/2010/02/lavar_arrington_responds_to_cl.html#more

Posted by: WorstSeat | February 9, 2010 11:59 AM | Report abuse


haha i wasnt, i really wanted to know what was going on, thanks worstseat

Posted by: AhsanFamily | February 9, 2010 12:02 PM | Report abuse

One overlooked story of the superbowl is that of Pierson Prioleau. This guy has followed Gregg Williams from Buffalo to Washington to Jacksonville to New Orleans. His loyalty and dedication has earned him a Superbowl ring.....congratulatons Pierson

Posted by: kingpenn1 | February 9, 2010 12:06 PM | Report abuse

Why in the world would you be looking to "mock drafts" on the internet to speculate on the Redskins draft pick, or worse, corroborate your opinion? These mock drafts are posted by people who WISH they had inside information. They don't know any more than I know. All they are going on is the Redskins history of sexy picks and quick fixes.

If the skins don't pick OL in first round, I'm pi$$ed. Campbell on his feet is better than Bradford/Clausen/Jurgensen on his A$$.

Posted by: jerrydavis1 | February 9, 2010 12:06 PM | Report abuse

@AhsanFamily --

In case you're not being facetious, Portis vs. LaVar is explained in some depth at The Bog:

http://voices.washingtonpost.com/dcsportsbog/2010/02/lavar_arrington_responds_to_cl.html#more

Posted by: WorstSeat | February 9, 2010 11:59 AM
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nice post, WorstSeat..

What a difference, on so many levels, between LaVar and Portis.
The same difference in the student/athletes coming out of Penn State versus the U.

Posted by: SkinsneedaGM | February 9, 2010 12:06 PM | Report abuse

IMO both CP and LaVar are A-holes as far as their personalities. To that extent, I can't wait for both of their time here in DC to be over.

Posted by: TWISI | February 9, 2010 12:08 PM | Report abuse

ESPN has the NFL Draft as a three day event. Maybe the WaPo has a SCOOP for once? NOT!

Posted by: noonefromtampa | February 9, 2010 12:10 PM | Report abuse

OK...

Most are 3rd day picks.

Posted by: edvar | February 9, 2010 11:45 AM

Having a bunch of third day picks in this draft might not be too bad. These players will form the core of the team 2-3 years down the road (hopefully). So in a sense,on a rebuilding team, these a very important picks.

Posted by: TWISI | February 9, 2010 12:20 PM | Report abuse

CP may not carry a gun, but he sure needs a license for his mouth.

Posted by: _Stumped_ | February 9, 2010 12:22 PM | Report abuse

I still don't understand the negative reaction to the possbility of the Redskins picking a QB with the 4th pick. I for one would not judge a draft based on one pick. If they draft a QB with with #4 pick and an 3 olineman after than, then what's the difference?

If there is a guy, no matter what position, at #4 that is a difference maker on you team then you go get him. We need so much, that even picking a CB, S, or O-lineman would not be met with much resistance from me.

It's what they will do with the 2nd, 4th, 5th and 7th that will matter.

Posted by: rickyroge | February 9, 2010 12:23 PM | Report abuse

New to the list of people I'm done defending up here is Clinton Portis. I made this decision a while back, but his latest round of completely pointless hoo-hah has caused me to go public. Enough with the talky-talky, Clinton. Zip it.

On the list of people I've never taken pains to defend is LaVar Arrington, who was a football dum-dum and only sporadically lived up to the love showered on him by this fan base. A star-crossed opportunity-squanderer, that one.

F both of 'em.

Gee whiz, that's a lousy way to start the day. Sorry about the negativity, and for all you peeps in the DMV sorry about the ongoing snowpocalypse out thataway.

Posted by: NateinthePDX | February 9, 2010 12:24 PM | Report abuse

"...In order to select defensive lineman Jeremy Jarmon..., the Redskins surrendered their third-round pick."


In hindsight, this look like a dumb-azzed move.

Why the previous management decided it couldn't wait until this year's draft to assess who should be the 3rd rounder is beyond me.

Nothing against Jarmon, but the given the realities of an offensively-challenged roster, another top round defensive player is not what's needed when you can't block, throw, catch, and run.

Posted by: MistaMoe | February 9, 2010 12:25 PM | Report abuse

"Having a bunch of third day picks in this draft might not be too bad. These players will form the core of the team 2-3 years down the road (hopefully). So in a sense,on a rebuilding team, these a very important picks."

Posted by: TWISI


Sorry TWISI... 1 pick in each of rounds 1, 2, 4, 5 and 7 does not a core make!

Our first prayer has been answered in that this will be an uncapped year... our second prayer would be for slotted salaries effective in the 2010 draft... this would facilitate more trading, enabling the ShanAllen GM machine to trade down and acquire picks to assemble said core!!!

Posted by: bschaef12 | February 9, 2010 12:27 PM | Report abuse

Posted by: TWISI | February 9, 2010 12:20 PM

1 1st day pick
1 2nd pick
3 3rd day picks

I wish we had a bunch of picks. Still early, hopefully Allen and Shanny can get creative.

Posted by: Diesel44 | February 9, 2010 12:27 PM | Report abuse

Jeez you people complain alot. What a bunch of freakin' cry babies. You sound like little spoiled girls.

Don't look a gift horse in the mouth. You don't like it, feel free to look elsewhere for your news, or make some calls yourself.

Posted by: Rypien11 | February 9, 2010 11:20 AM

MY SENTIMENTS EXACTLY!! I love RI, but it's not the only thing I depend on for info, or for entertaiment. Get a life, guys, or start your own blog. Maybe I'll read it!

Posted by: mmck | February 9, 2010 12:29 PM | Report abuse

moe, lets give Jarmon a little time before we call that a wasted pick....

Posted by: BeantownGreg1 | February 9, 2010 12:32 PM | Report abuse

If the skins don't pick OL in first round, I'm pi$$ed. Campbell on his feet is better than Bradford/Clausen/Jurgensen on his A$$.

Posted by: jerrydavis1 | February 9, 2010 12:06 PM
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Campbell was on his feet when he threw the last pass on the last play of the season after 3 straight incomplete throws (typical JC 4th Qtr non-rally).. A Hail Mary 15 yards out of bounds at the 40. Good way to protect your QB Rating as you head for free agency.

Jurgensen on his back, today, could keep a a Hail Mary pass in bounds for a tip or interference call.

But, nothing beats JC's screen pass in the last Giants game that went 10 yards into the stands at the 50. The refs were sure it had to be intentional grounding but had to pick up the flag and rescind the penalty, when after conferencing, they determined correctly it was just a VERY badly overthrown pass as there were no defenders near JC when he threw it.

Posted by: cliftonbiz | February 9, 2010 12:32 PM | Report abuse

"I heard Lavar went off on his radio show about Portis, but don't know why or what it was about..."


We have a transcript:

Lavar: "You a b!tch!"

Portis: "Yo momma!"

Lavar: "I bet you won't come over here and say that!"

Portis: "You know I can't see straight since my concussion. How would I find you?"

Lavar: "Sniff for the scent of the failed player!"

Portis: "That doesn't make it any easier as it's a smell on the both of us!"

Posted by: MistaMoe | February 9, 2010 12:32 PM | Report abuse

second prayer would be for slotted salaries effective in the 2010 draft... this would facilitate more trading, enabling the ShanAllen GM machine to trade down and acquire picks to assemble said core!!!

Posted by: bschaef12 | February 9, 2010 12:27 PM
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Dont believe (if approved) slotted salaries by position will be implemented in 2010.

Posted by: cliftonbiz | February 9, 2010 12:37 PM | Report abuse

Please. I'm no CP defender, but statistically he's accomplished far more in this league than LaVar ever did.

In fact, aside from knocking Aikman out, Arrington has no highlight reel. Sean Taylor's brief career contains more big plays than Arrington's.

Guess that's why the hater is sitting in a radio studio bi*ching and moaning about everyone else.

Posted by: MrRedskin21 | February 9, 2010 12:43 PM | Report abuse

"...let's give Jarmon a little time before we call that a wasted pick...."

I have to argue the deeper side to this point.

The team, like all others, had to be aware last summer that the impending labor issues would send countless underclassmen into the draft.

This means a kid who'd be a 2011 1st or 2nd rounder would be a third rounder in 2010.

Meaning a guy like Jarmon, with no upcoming college season, would drift down into a lower round or become an undrafted type.

In other words, he could've been had had Vinny been patience and saved the pick for a needed tackle, guard, center, quarterback, or running back.

And taken a guy like Jarmon with no Fall 2009 season at Kentucky ahead of him, later on in the 2010 NFL draft.


Posted by: MistaMoe | February 9, 2010 12:43 PM | Report abuse

PS: Skins first pick is Sam Bradford.

It's a done deal. Or, as 4th likes to say, "book it."

Posted by: MrRedskin21 | February 9, 2010 12:44 PM | Report abuse

Guess that's why the hater is sitting in a radio studio bi*ching and moaning about everyone else.

Posted by: MrRedskin21 | February 9, 2010 12:43 PM

You should read the Steinbog and listen to LA's radio clip.

This is all on CP, he ran his mouth (AGAIN) on NFL network. CP needs to get the F out of town.

Posted by: Diesel44 | February 9, 2010 12:48 PM | Report abuse

In other words, he could've been had had Vinny been patience and saved the pick for a needed tackle, guard, center, quarterback, or running back.

And taken a guy like Jarmon with no Fall 2009 season at Kentucky ahead of him, later on in the 2010 NFL draft.


Posted by: MistaMoe | February 9, 2010 12:43 PM
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Vinny just keeps on giving...

Posted by: SkinsneedaGM | February 9, 2010 12:48 PM | Report abuse

"...still don't understand the negative reaction to the possbility of the Redskins picking a QB with the 4th pick."


I think what it is, is that some people want to hate on Campbell but not replace him.

I say if the team takes a quarterback with the 4th pick, then trade Campbell (for a ham sammich even), and move forward in rebuilding mode.

If I'm Shanny and Bruce, I want my own guys, not last year's problems or somebody else's leftover.

I'd wipe the roster a clean as contractually possible and move on knowing that if things go wrong, well, the guys I brought in let me down.

Not fighting for this situation is a part of the reason why Zorn failed.

That and being clueless.

Posted by: MistaMoe | February 9, 2010 12:50 PM | Report abuse

while we might disagree about the what the ad was trying to convey, I think we can all agree that these people need to get a hobby other than what they currently have.

Regarding the Tim Tebow ad:

NOW president Terry O’Neill said it glorified violence against women. “I am blown away at the celebration of the violence against women in it,” she said. “That’s what comes across to me even more strongly than the anti-abortion message. I myself am a survivor of domestic violence, and I don’t find it charming. I think CBS should be ashamed of itself.”

Posted by: BeantownGreg1 | February 9, 2010 12:51 PM | Report abuse

Posted by: bschaef12 | February 9, 2010 12:27 PM |

You're missing my point. Guys drafted in rounds 3-5 are the future depth guys. ST players, the second and 3rd teamers etc. These guys are the role players when first drafted, and hopefully can be quality depth players 2-3 years down the round. They are cheaper than the 1st and 2nd rounder, and therefore better on the salary cap(when there is one). So yes, these players will be the core of the team 2-3 years down the round.

Posted by: TWISI | February 9, 2010 12:53 PM | Report abuse

MistaMoe: I don't believe Jarmon would be available in the 2010 draft; I recall several teams listed as being interested in drafting him during the 2009 Supplemental Draft, most looking for him in the 4th to 5th Round. The Redskins clearly were willing to go higher than everyone else. Whether they should have selected him that high, or even at all, is the better question. FWIW, not selecting Jarmon and getting a steal on a lineman this year would have been my bet, even if it meant missing out on Jarmon.

Posted by: AppleScience | February 9, 2010 12:56 PM | Report abuse

Posted by: Diesel44 | February 9, 2010 12:27 PM

I've heard Allen say that the Skins will attempt to get a third and sixth rounder sometime during the offseason. Here is an interview with the Sport reporters where I think he said that.

http://www.stationcaster.com/player.php?s=65&c=427&f=42487

Posted by: TWISI | February 9, 2010 12:58 PM | Report abuse

Here's how the Jets built their much-praised offensive line:

Left Tackle: Ferguson (#4,'06 draft); Hunter (UFA,'03)
Left Guard: Faneca (UFA, '08); Turner (UFA '07)
Center: Mangold (#29, '08 draft);
Right Guard: Moore (UFA, '02); Slauson (Round 6, '09 draft)
Right Tackle: Woody (UFA, '04)

The Jets are somewhat unusual in having two top draft choices among their starting o-linemen. The rest of their starters were obtained through FA.

Posted by: Samson151 | February 9, 2010 1:07 PM | Report abuse

NOW president Terry O’Neill said it glorified violence against women. “I am blown away at the celebration of the violence against women in it,” she said. “That’s what comes across to me even more strongly than the anti-abortion message. I myself am a survivor of domestic violence, and I don’t find it charming. I think CBS should be ashamed of itself.”

Posted by: BeantownGreg1 | February 9, 2010 12:51 PM | Report abuse


NOW is pissed that the add wasn't anti-abortion enough. They had to scrap their original smear campaign and scramble to find something else to complain about.

Posted by: Original_etrod | February 9, 2010 1:08 PM | Report abuse

"You're missing my point. Guys drafted in rounds 3-5 are the future depth guys. ST players, the second and 3rd teamers etc. These guys are the role players when first drafted, and hopefully can be quality depth players 2-3 years down the round. They are cheaper than the 1st and 2nd rounder, and therefore better on the salary cap(when there is one). So yes, these players will be the core of the team 2-3 years down the round."

Posted by: TWISI


TWISI - Not missing your point... in fact, I strongly concur with that write-up... my point was that we really have so few picks in the draft that it will be hard to create any such depth... with so few picks, you have to hit on each one... a scary concept under Vinny... hopefully better under ShanAllen...

And I still maintain prayer number 2... slotted salaries for the 2010 draft... that could help as much as anything!!!


Posted by: bschaef12 | February 9, 2010 1:09 PM | Report abuse

PS: Skins first pick is Sam Bradford.

It's a done deal. Or, as 4th likes to say, "book it."

Posted by: MrRedskin21 | February 9, 2010 12:44 PM
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Then we'll have a veteran QB underachiever (JC) with a future oft-injured rookie QB.
I would rather see a trade scenario that unloads the 4th overall pick for a vet QB and an additional 2nd round pick.
An unhappy Cutler reunited with his binky coach??

Posted by: SkinsneedaGM | February 9, 2010 1:09 PM | Report abuse

"FWIW, not selecting Jarmon and getting a steal on a lineman this year would have been my bet, even if it meant missing out on Jarmon."

Posted by: AppleScience

Hold on there little doggie... IF, and that's a big IF right now, the 2010 decade of bookends, Jarmon and Orakpo, could resemble the 1980's version of Mann and Manley. Jarmon looked like a keeper last year... and the Rak is a beast in the Manley mold.

The O-Line will first be visited by FA in early March... as long as they find the younger pups vice the long in the tooth variety, then they may find some good help... I keep saying the Kris Cuper, G, Den, is coming to DC... that will only be the beginning of what I hope is a SMART shopping season.

Posted by: bschaef12 | February 9, 2010 1:15 PM | Report abuse

PS: Skins first pick is Sam Bradford.

It's a done deal. Or, as 4th likes to say, "book it."

Posted by: MrRedskin21 | February 9, 2010 12:44 PM
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Then we'll have a veteran QB underachiever (JC) with a future oft-injured rookie QB.
I would rather see a trade scenario that unloads the 4th overall pick for a vet QB and an additional 2nd round pick.
An unhappy Cutler reunited with his binky coach??

Posted by: SkinsneedaGM | February 9, 2010 1:09 PM | Report abuse

I didn't think Cutler was unhappy. I really like that idea but it's pretty far-fetched seeing how Chicago just obtained a good starting QB after years and years and years of searching.

Posted by: Bigfoot_has_a_posse | February 9, 2010 1:17 PM | Report abuse

"Whether they should have selected him that high, or even at all, is the better question...not selecting Jarmon and getting a steal on a lineman this year would have been my bet, even if it meant missing out on Jarmon."


I think that's what my post is arguing, maybe not as directly as you're putting it, though.

We really need that third rounder as it's a nice 'chip' or can be used to satisfy a need.

And we got needs and no chips to flip into picks.

Posted by: MistaMoe | February 9, 2010 1:20 PM | Report abuse

Shanny can't draft a highly-touted QB, even if he wanted to. We NEED two OT's & a guard who are starters next season. We ain't gonna pick 'em up in FA alone so the only relevant question is exactly how we are gonna use our top picks on O-LINE, not if we are going to.

Posted by: monkeymayonaise | February 9, 2010 1:20 PM | Report abuse

Shanny can't draft a highly-touted QB, even if he wanted to. We NEED two OT's & a guard who are starters next season. We ain't gonna pick 'em up in FA alone so the only relevant question is exactly how we are gonna use our top picks on O-LINE, not if we are going to.

Posted by: monkeymayonaise | February 9, 2010 1:20 PM | Report abuse

The good news is that now with Shanahan and Allen on-board it will be harder to second guess their FA pick ups and draft picks.

Posted by: _Stumped_ | February 9, 2010 1:21 PM | Report abuse

Hey J Reid,

The draft is a three day process now. First round-Thursday night, second and third rounds on Friday and Saturday has the remainder. Figured you would know that

Posted by: Skins281 | February 9, 2010 11:07 AM | Report abuse

Cosign.

LOL.

Posted by: SkinsfaninKaneohe | February 9, 2010 1:21 PM | Report abuse

Posted by: bschaef12 | February 9, 2010 1:09 PM |

I gotcha.

BTW did anyone hear the Bradford interview on the SportsFix show the other day? If you did, I'd like your impression of him.

Posted by: TWISI | February 9, 2010 1:21 PM | Report abuse

Please. I'm no CP defender, but statistically he's accomplished far more in this league than LaVar ever did.

In fact, aside from knocking Aikman out, Arrington has no highlight reel. Sean Taylor's brief career contains more big plays than Arrington's.

Guess that's why the hater is sitting in a radio studio bi*ching and moaning about everyone else.

Posted by: MrRedskin21 | February 9, 2010 12:43 PM | Report abuse


?!?!?

LaVar went to 3 straight ProBowls, you chump.

His career was cut short by injuries b/c he played balls to the wall.

And WTH does Sean Taylor have to do with the situation?

As time goes on and CP becomes more and more exposed for the lockerroom cancer that he is, it's clear he needs to get off this team. He ran out of active teammates to throw under the bus, so now he's going after former ones..

Posted by: p1funk | February 9, 2010 1:23 PM | Report abuse

You're missing my point. Guys drafted in rounds 3-5 are the future depth guys. ST players, the second and 3rd teamers etc. These guys are the role players when first drafted, and hopefully can be quality depth players 2-3 years down the round. They are cheaper than the 1st and 2nd rounder, and therefore better on the salary cap(when there is one). So yes, these players will be the core of the team 2-3 years down the round.Posted by: TWISI"

Although when you're discussing offensive linemen, that seems to often not be the case. The teams I've looked at so far (admittedly a small sample) might be relying on mid-round draft choices, but usually ones they obtained through free agency, several years after they'd been drafted by somebody else. Some of the starters on premier lines, like the Jets' Moore, had been waived by the team and signed back later. Others, like DeVan, were signed as rookie FAs by teams like Washington, then cut and subsequently picked up by their current employers.

The Jets have two of their own top choices as starters (Ferguson & Mangold) and a couple starters who came from other teams as veteran FAs (Faneca and Woody). So among their group of 8 o-linemen, 3 were drafted by the club (two 1st, one 6th) and the rest weren't. None were selected by the team in the 3rd-5th rounds.

Posted by: Samson151 | February 9, 2010 1:25 PM | Report abuse

PS: Skins first pick is Sam Bradford.

It's a done deal. Or, as 4th likes to say, "book it."

Posted by: MrRedskin21 | February 9, 2010 12:44 PM
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Then we'll have a veteran QB underachiever (JC) with a future oft-injured rookie QB.
I would rather see a trade scenario that unloads the 4th overall pick for a vet QB and an additional 2nd round pick.
An unhappy Cutler reunited with his binky coach??

Posted by: SkinsneedaGM | February 9, 2010 1:09 PM | Report abuse

I didn't think Cutler was unhappy. I really like that idea but it's pretty far-fetched seeing how Chicago just obtained a good starting QB after years and years and years of searching.

Posted by: Bigfoot_has_a_posse | February 9, 2010 1:17 PM
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I agree.. but, there are rumblings about his high INTs which I think are a "new team" aberration.. And I think Dan will get Shanny what Shanny wants, no matter what.
Even though Martz says Jay is his guy.. I would think he would be just as pleased with an additional 1st round pick.

Posted by: SkinsneedaGM | February 9, 2010 1:25 PM | Report abuse

"The good news is that now with Shanahan and Allen on-board it will be harder to second guess their FA pick ups and draft picks."

Posted by: _Stumped


Umm... come to think of it... didn't Shanny draft that donk RB from Ohio State in the 2nd round? Third round at the latest...

Posted by: bschaef12 | February 9, 2010 1:25 PM | Report abuse

To all the fans wetting themselves about the draft:

If we take QB at the #4 spot, it's not going to be the end of the world...after all, we DO NEED a Qb for the future.

There are LOTS of ways to improve this Oline, including through free agency.

Personally, I'd like to see us walk away from this draft with at least one of the top rated tackles (Okung, Davis, Campbell, Williams) to groom as our next Chris Samuels; and that pick does NOT have to be at #4.

Posted by: p1funk | February 9, 2010 1:28 PM | Report abuse

The problem with not having Jarmon is that we'd have Daniels and Wynn as our left defensive ends. It wouldn't be a free extra pick for the draft. We'd just be adding a new need. Besides, supposedly Jarmon fits as a 4-3 LDE and as a 3-4 DE.

Posted by: PAskinsfan17 | February 9, 2010 1:28 PM | Report abuse

BTW did anyone hear the Bradford interview on the SportsFix show the other day? If you did, I'd like your impression of him.

Posted by: TWISI | February 9, 2010 1:21 PM | Report abuse


I didn't hear the interview, but my impression is that a stiff breeze is going to separate his shoulder...

Posted by: p1funk | February 9, 2010 1:30 PM | Report abuse

Haynesworth, who expressed frustration about the team's disciplined 4-3 defensive scheme last season, be content playing nose tackle, even if only occasionally, in the 3-4 scheme new defensive coordinator Jim Haslett might switch to next season?

++++++++++++++++++++

Why would AH have to play NT?

He could play DE in a 3-4 and be a disruptive force.

Posted by: p1funk | February 9, 2010 1:33 PM | Report abuse

Posted by: bschaef12 | February 9, 2010 1:15 PM

Kuper has only 4 years in the league and is a RFA.

Here is a list of should be targets that are UFAs.

OG
Chester Pitts UFA 6-3/320
Stephen Neal UFA 6-4/305
Eugene Amano UFA 6-3/310
Jeremy Bridges UFA 6-4/326
Kendall Simmons UFA 8 6-3/315

OT
Chad Clifton UFA 6-5/320
Mike Gandy UFA 6-4/310
Artis Hicks UFA 6-4/335
Guy Whimper UFA 6-5/305
Tony Pashos UFA 6-6/326

The FA OT pool is abysmal and this is why Okung should be taken with the 4th pick.

Posted by: Diesel44 | February 9, 2010 1:33 PM | Report abuse

"The problem with not having Jarmon is that we'd have Daniels and Wynn as our left defensive ends."

Well, the guy spent a chunk of the season not playing because of injury.

So what hurt the D: not having Jarmon, or dumb-azzed secondary play?

The guy has wasted pick smothered all over him.

They could've had him later this year, and if someone else snagged him, well, there are other dudes to be had.

Like Carlos Dunlap, for instance.

That guy IS a 3rd round pick.

Posted by: MistaMoe | February 9, 2010 1:34 PM | Report abuse

Then we'll have a veteran QB underachiever (JC) with a future oft-injured rookie QB.
I would rather see a trade scenario that unloads the 4th overall pick for a vet QB and an additional 2nd round pick.
An unhappy Cutler reunited with his binky coach??

Posted by: SkinsneedaGM | February 9, 2010 1:09 PM | Report abuse


The Bears gave up 2 first-rounders, a third rounder and a starting QB to get Cutler.

So a year later, they are going to dump Culter AND a 2nd rounder for the a first round pick?

THis is precisely the kind of move Jerry Angelo makes if he decides he no longer is interested in working the NFL...

Posted by: p1funk | February 9, 2010 1:40 PM | Report abuse

Personally, I'd like to see us walk away from this draft with at least one of the top rated tackles (Okung, Davis, Campbell, Williams) to groom as our next Chris Samuels; and that pick does NOT have to be at #4.

Posted by: p1funk

A voice of reason, here in RI? Careful funk, some will not like that opinion.

Posted by: 1965skinsfan | February 9, 2010 1:43 PM | Report abuse

OK, who's to say Campbell doesn't just bag it for a year? Lot's of folks here seem to think that the Redskins will make him a one year tender and he'll just meekly accept it. I don't think that's the case. I think he is more than willing to sit for a year and force the Skins to hold a roster spot until late summer and then see what happens. Why play for a team that so obviously doesn't want you? And since 2011 is looking like a lockout year you're not even playing for your next job. Basically, without a multi-year deal and guaranteed money there's no reason for him to sign.

Posted by: elkiii_2008 | February 9, 2010 1:47 PM | Report abuse

A voice of reason, here in RI? Careful funk, some will not like that opinion.

Posted by: 1965skinsfan | February 9, 2010 1:43 PM | Report abuse


I know...it's the same bunch who thinks we could trade Clinton Portis for a 2nd round pick.

Posted by: p1funk | February 9, 2010 1:47 PM | Report abuse

p1funk

"...us walk away from this draft with at least one of the top rated tackles... to groom as our next Chris Samuels; and that pick does NOT have to be at #4..."


I think that's what's going to happen.

We'll get a new o-line comprised of dudes we've never heard of, and will be shocked that they all have skills.

Posted by: MistaMoe | February 9, 2010 1:49 PM | Report abuse

A voice of reason, here in RI? Careful funk, some will not like that opinion.

Posted by: 1965skinsfan | February 9, 2010 1:43 PM | Report abuse


I know...it's the same bunch who thinks we could trade Clinton Portis for a 2nd round pick.

Posted by: p1funk


What? With CPs career numbers you'd think we'd get a 1st?!

Posted by: bschaef12 | February 9, 2010 1:56 PM | Report abuse

"Basically, without a multi-year deal and guaranteed money there's no reason for him to sign."



This further argues the point that moving him for even the minimun makes since.

If you decide Campbell is not your future, why not move him for picks in the present?

Posted by: MistaMoe | February 9, 2010 1:57 PM | Report abuse

We'll get a new o-line comprised of dudes we've never heard of, and will be shocked that they all have skills.

Posted by: MistaMoe

exactly! out with the old thinking, in with the new. looking forward yet again to another season.

Posted by: 1965skinsfan | February 9, 2010 1:57 PM | Report abuse

Surrendered a 3rd rd pick.

Prety piss poor choice of verb in my opinion, and that is why the natives so easily get up in arms over the Wapo reportage. They constantly take the snarky way out. Jarmon was widely believed to have been a player with a real shot at going in the 1st rd of the 2010 draft. The kid ran into a banned supplement issue, and had to come out in the supplemental last spring. Redskins USED a 2010 3rd dounder to draft a kid in 2009. In essence, they got a player a year early. A player, who wowed the coaches enough with his ability and moxy (much like Orakpo) to get on the field.

Based on all of this, I would nto have used the word "surrendered" wrt the draft pick used to get teh kid on the team.

Of course, I'm not a big time journo major on a big time sports staff on a big time paper, so WTF do i know.

PS A lot of those "mock draft dorks" at least went to Mobile and put in the work to make informed internet posts.

Guess they didn't go to big time journo schools, if they had, they would know they could have stayed home and then just recapped what somebody else wrote.

Posted by: SkinsfaninKaneohe | February 9, 2010 1:57 PM | Report abuse

Then we'll have a veteran QB underachiever (JC) with a future oft-injured rookie QB.
I would rather see a trade scenario that unloads the 4th overall pick for a vet QB and an additional 2nd round pick.
An unhappy Cutler reunited with his binky coach??

Posted by: SkinsneedaGM | February 9, 2010 1:09 PM | Report abuse
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The Bears gave up 2 first-rounders, a third rounder and a starting QB to get Cutler.

So a year later, they are going to dump Culter AND a 2nd rounder for the a first round pick?

THis is precisely the kind of move Jerry Angelo makes if he decides he no longer is interested in working the NFL...

Posted by: p1funk | February 9, 2010 1:40 PM
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good point p1funk.. didnt realize they traded 2 First rounders.. But, on the same note, a new head coach may want one of those 1sts back and the Skins would certainly have to ante up more on their end of the trade.
Shanny and Gibbs are pretty close friends.. And when Gibbs "retired" he was effusive about Todd Collins and how well prepared he was, all the time, even though he wasnt starting. But, glaringly he said nothing nearly that positive about Jason upon his retirement. And that is after 2 full years with Jason. You have to wonder if Gibbs retired because he knew he blew it by convincing Snyder to trade almost the entire 2005 draft for him.

If not Cutler and if not this Draft, I think Shanny will eventually be looking for a QB after he gets to know JC. Once they start dicussing game situations/plays and JC starts to get that look he always had on the bench during a game.. You know, the one that resembles a confused senior citizen looking for their car at a Wal-Mart, Shanny will be running to Allen for a QB.

Posted by: SkinsneedaGM | February 9, 2010 1:58 PM | Report abuse

A voice of reason, here in RI? Careful funk, some will not like that opinion.

Posted by: 1965skinsfan | February 9, 2010 1:43 PM | Report abuse


I know...it's the same bunch who thinks we could trade Clinton Portis for a 2nd round pick.

Posted by: p1funk | February 9, 2010 1:47 PM

Here's the thing, at #4 the Skins very likely will have the opportunity to draft the #1 rated offensive player in the draft. If that player turns out to be a QB, then I could see the reasoning behind drafting that player. However,if they reach for a QB then it's a wasted opportunity. From a team building perspective, you only get to draft a QB this high once every 4-5 years, so that guy needs to be the right guy. However,IMO the next two draft years will provide better talent at the QB spot than this year's draft.

Posted by: TWISI | February 9, 2010 1:59 PM | Report abuse

OK, who's to say Campbell doesn't just bag it for a year? Lot's of folks here seem to think that the Redskins will make him a one year tender and he'll just meekly accept it. I don't think that's the case. I think he is more than willing to sit for a year and force the Skins to hold a roster spot until late summer and then see what happens. Why play for a team that so obviously doesn't want you? And since 2011 is looking like a lockout year you're not even playing for your next job. Basically, without a multi-year deal and guaranteed money there's no reason for him to sign.

Posted by: elkiii_2008 | February 9, 2010 1:47 PM | Report abuse

JC would never do that. Some would say that is the reason he will never be elite.

Posted by: SkinsfaninKaneohe | February 9, 2010 2:01 PM | Report abuse

Everyone keeps talking about trading out of the 4th pick and getting more later round picks, but the best(/only?)chance the Skin's have at trading out of the 4th pick is if a CBA is hammered out with a rookie pay scale in place.
Otherwise, the risks (both financial and forfeiting more picks) are to large for most franchises. It would be nice though...

Posted by: BostonWarPath | February 9, 2010 2:03 PM | Report abuse

If you decide Campbell is not your future, why not move him for picks in the present?

Posted by: MistaMoe | February 9, 2010 1:57 PM
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So he gets no acceptable RFA offers and the Skins sign and trade him?

Posted by: SkinsneedaGM | February 9, 2010 2:06 PM | Report abuse

Everyone keeps talking about trading out of the 4th pick and getting more later round picks, but the best(/only?)chance the Skin's have at trading out of the 4th pick is if a CBA is hammered out with a rookie pay scale in place.
Otherwise, the risks (both financial and forfeiting more picks) are to large for most franchises. It would be nice though...

Posted by: BostonWarPath | February 9, 2010 2:03 PM | Report abuse

I think the best chance of moving out of the 4 is if Clausen goes one, Bradford is sitting there at 4, and some team thinks they need to jump up ahead of the Seahawks at 6 to grab him. Therefore, it is in the Redskins interests to make noise about grabbing Bradford, and then letting some team "blow their doors off" with a trade back offer they just can't refuse.

Posted by: SkinsfaninKaneohe | February 9, 2010 2:07 PM | Report abuse

OK, who's to say Campbell doesn't just bag it for a year? Lot's of folks here seem to think that the Redskins will make him a one year tender and he'll just meekly accept it. I don't think that's the case. I think he is more than willing to sit for a year and force the Skins to hold a roster spot until late summer and then see what happens. Why play for a team that so obviously doesn't want you? And since 2011 is looking like a lockout year you're not even playing for your next job. Basically, without a multi-year deal and guaranteed money there's no reason for him to sign.

Posted by: elkiii_2008 | February 9, 2010 1:47 PM

Not sure how missing two years of playing time helps JC's career. JC is not in a strong enough position to even contemplate sitting next season.

Posted by: Curzon417 | February 9, 2010 2:11 PM | Report abuse

Therefore, it is in the Redskins interests to make noise about grabbing Bradford, and then letting some team "blow their doors off" with a trade back offer they just can't refuse.

Posted by: SkinsfaninKaneohe | February 9, 2010 2:07 PM
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and while the Skins are at it.. "making noise about grabbing Bradford".... They need to hire a "Caribbean Degreed Doctor" to document a physical that shows Bradford's shoulder is really stronger than a noodle in the wind.

Posted by: SkinsneedaGM | February 9, 2010 2:15 PM | Report abuse

Posted by: follybeach | February 9, 2010 2:20 PM | Report abuse

"We'll get a new o-line comprised of dudes we've never heard of, and will be shocked that they all have skills.

Posted by: MistaMoe"

We tried that one before. That's how we ended getting a rotation of Stephon Heyer, Mike Williams, D'Anthony Batiste, Will Montgomery, Ed Williams, and Chad Rinehart as our starting LT/RT/RG/C for portions of the season. Only at the end of it all, we found out none of them had skills.

Hopefully Shanahan will have better luck.

Posted by: psps23 | February 9, 2010 2:21 PM | Report abuse

Let the steroid era being.

Redskins interviewing Romanowski for strength coach job

Posted by Gregg Rosenthal on February 9, 2010 2:17 PM ET
Bill Romanowski once lobbied to replace Mike Shanahan in Denver. Now he might join Shanahan's staff in Washington.

Jay Glazer reports that Romanowski is interviewing in Washington to be the team's strength and conditioning coach. Seriously.

There are a ton of jokes that could be made here, but we'll leave them to the commenters.

Instead, we wonder if the league will have an opinion on the hiring of an admitted steroid user and pill enthusiast for a job that puts him in charge of the conditioning of an entire NFL team.

Posted by: TWISI | February 9, 2010 2:22 PM | Report abuse

Jason Campbell has been a 5 year starter in this league...

He was medicore under Gibbs' offense...
He was mediocre under Saunders' offense...
He was mediocre under Zorn's offense...

Granted...he's not entirely at fault but c'mon...

You honestly think that under Shanahan he'll perform differently?

One thing we know...he needs a TON of time...the shotgun...and all of his receivers to be WIDE open for him to succeed.

Posted by: rickyroge | February 9, 2010 2:22 PM | Report abuse

Redskins interviewing Romanowski for strength coach job
Posted by Gregg Rosenthal on February 9, 2010 2:17 PM ET
Bill Romanowski once lobbied to replace Mike Shanahan in Denver. Now he might join Shanahan's staff in Washington.

Jay Glazer reports that Romanowski is interviewing in Washington to be the team's strength and conditioning coach. Seriously.

There are a ton of jokes that could be made here, but we'll leave them to the commenters.

Instead, we wonder if the league will have an opinion on the hiring of an admitted steroid user and pill enthusiast for a job that puts him in charge of the conditioning of an entire NFL team.

Posted by: 4thFloor | February 9, 2010 2:23 PM | Report abuse

I think the best chance of moving out of the 4 is if Clausen goes one, Bradford is sitting there at 4, and some team thinks they need to jump up ahead of the Seahawks at 6 to grab him. Therefore, it is in the Redskins interests to make noise about grabbing Bradford, and then letting some team "blow their doors off" with a trade back offer they just can't refuse.

Posted by: SkinsfaninKaneohe | February 9, 2010 2:07 PM | Report abuse

I agree, but unfortunatley I think both QB's are going to still be on the board. I don't think that either is worth the #1 pick and the only teams that would jump ahead of seattle would be the Bills or maybe the niners. But I think Seattle is also worrying about who is going to replace thier current LT, isn't he considering retierment too?

Posted by: BostonWarPath | February 9, 2010 2:23 PM | Report abuse

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2010/02/09/redskins-interviewing-romanowski-for-strength-coach-job/

Posted by: follybeach | February 9, 2010 2:20 PM
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Looney Rule? Roidy Rule?
Skins cant be serious?

Posted by: SkinsneedaGM | February 9, 2010 2:25 PM | Report abuse

Posted by: rickyroge | February 9, 2010 2:22 P

Shanahan has had a bunch of success with mediocre QBs.

Posted by: TWISI | February 9, 2010 2:27 PM | Report abuse

"PFT is reporting that earlier reports of Romo becoming the new coach of strength and conditioning for the Washington Redskins were indeed premature, and that instead of Romo, the team is reportedly bringing in Jose Canseco, to fill that coaching position"

Posted by: BeantownGreg1 | February 9, 2010 2:27 PM | Report abuse

Bill Romanowski... ugh...

Posted by: NateinthePDX | February 9, 2010 2:30 PM | Report abuse

Redskins interviewing Romanowski for strength coach job
Posted by Gregg Rosenthal on February 9, 2010 2:17 PM ET
Bill Romanowski once lobbied to replace Mike Shanahan in Denver. Now he might join Shanahan's staff in Washington.

Jay Glazer reports that Romanowski is interviewing in Washington to be the team's strength and conditioning coach. Seriously.

There are a ton of jokes that could be made here, but we'll leave them to the commenters.

Instead, we wonder if the league will have an opinion on the hiring of an admitted steroid user and pill enthusiast for a job that puts him in charge of the conditioning of an entire NFL team.

Posted by: 4thFloor | February 9, 2010 2:23 PM
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Actually Snyder made a mistake...
He heard "Romo" was available.

Posted by: SkinsneedaGM | February 9, 2010 2:32 PM | Report abuse

Of all the players in the NFL in my entire lifetime who were not Dallas Cowboys, I despise Romanowski the most. It would be some sort of sick joke if that guy got the Skins Strength and Conditioning Coach job.

Posted by: manlius1 | February 9, 2010 2:33 PM | Report abuse

LA a Bust!!! Retards, now go run and tell palin that.
Courtney Brown that's a bust.

You wanna talk about a genuine BUST-- past decade of front office and majority of our coaches including GibbsII, bunch of amateurs.

yeah i'm hyped about the new regime, everything is on the hush-hush... I like that. Don't need a f-cken press conference about everything.

Posted by: bhoang888 | February 9, 2010 2:35 PM | Report abuse

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2010/02/09/redskins-interviewing-romanowski-for-strength-coach-job/

Posted by: follybeach | February 9, 2010 2:20 PM

One would think that Philip Daniels was built for this position.

Posted by: Curzon417 | February 9, 2010 2:35 PM | Report abuse

Of all the players in the NFL in my entire lifetime who were not Dallas Cowboys, I despise Romanowski the most............

Posted by: manlius1 | February 9, 2010 2:33 PM
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Belichick is on this list, too.

Posted by: SkinsneedaGM | February 9, 2010 2:37 PM | Report abuse

"We tried that one before. That's how we ended getting a rotation of Stephon Heyer, Mike Williams, D'Anthony Batiste, Will Montgomery, Ed Williams, and Chad Rinehart as our starting LT/RT/RG/C for portions of the season."


That had more to do with the pickers than the pickees.

Outside of Ryan Clady, who are the highly touted and drafted lineman from Shanny's days in Denver?

Even if we take Okung, I expect a lot of linemen coming in who don't look like the kind of guys who've been here all along.

And that's not a bad thing.

Posted by: MistaMoe | February 9, 2010 2:43 PM | Report abuse

I want to be clear here, Romo...the non QB Romo, is a player i really really hated. HOWEVER aside from him cheating and admitting to it, i did hear an interview with him on Jim Rome, this guy is a competitor, this guy HATED people who were lazy and did not give a crap about the game as much as he did. He pushed his body to its physical limits with a a workout regimine second to none, yes it went too far, but if he applies this same attitude with training our players i can only think that they would benefit from a man with such intensity. I think he could push young men to be better and to do better, and would instill a a competitive fire into the organization.

Posted by: skinball77 | February 9, 2010 2:47 PM | Report abuse

How much that is positive can be said about a team that went 4-12 last season? As for using "'sources' and 'speculation,'" that's about all the Post can do since teams normally guard their personnel plans as closely as the feds guard classified material.

Posted by: rbpalmer | February 9, 2010 11:35 AM

If the skins guard like the feds, we would see their draft board posted on You Tube and elsewhere with immediate updates faster than the actual change to the board was made. Every team would also have the playbook within the first 3 copies after printing.

ROFLMAO

Posted by: HPYTRKR1 | February 9, 2010 2:48 PM | Report abuse

If the skins guard like the feds, we would see their draft board posted on You Tube and elsewhere with immediate updates faster than the actual change to the board was made. Every team would also have the playbook within the first 3 copies after printing.

ROFLMAO

Posted by: HPYTRKR1

Your sarcasm and ignorance sickens me.

Posted by: skinball77 | February 9, 2010 2:50 PM | Report abuse

Skinball, I hear you about Romo's intensity, but I refuse to believe there is not someone else associated with professional football and well-suited for this job who would bring intensity yet does not have all of the downside Romanowski has, in terms of being a complete a-hole, poor sport, and public relations nightmare.

Posted by: manlius1 | February 9, 2010 2:52 PM | Report abuse

I want to be clear here, Romo...the non QB Romo, is a player i really really hated. HOWEVER aside from him cheating and admitting to it, i did hear an interview with him on Jim Rome, this guy is a competitor, this guy HATED people who were lazy and did not give a crap about the game as much as he did. He pushed his body to its physical limits with a a workout regimine second to none, yes it went too far, but if he applies this same attitude with training our players i can only think that they would benefit from a man with such intensity. I think he could push young men to be better and to do better, and would instill a a competitive fire into the organization.

Posted by: skinball77 | February 9, 2010 2:47 PM | Report abuse

Yeeeeeahhhh. Did we mention he admitted to using performance enhancing drugs? Oh, you stated that in the beginning. Guess you can overlook that because he's a "competitor".

Posted by: Bigfoot_has_a_posse | February 9, 2010 2:53 PM | Report abuse

F LaVar...I'm listening to his rant...and he is worst than Clinton Portis....Seriously..

....This Big Radio Guy is out of his mind now....See what the media does to you???

Posted by: 4thFloor | February 9, 2010 2:53 PM | Report abuse

lavar is just trying his hardest to remain relavant...

Posted by: BeantownGreg1 | February 9, 2010 2:54 PM | Report abuse

Skinball, I hear you about Romo's intensity, but I refuse to believe there is not someone else associated with professional football and well-suited for this job who would bring intensity yet does not have all of the downside Romanowski has, in terms of being a complete a-hole, poor sport, and public relations nightmare.

Posted by: manlius1

I don't disagree with anything you said. However we brought in haynesworth last year and he was exactly the same as Romo was he not? I mean he stomped on a guys head, drove intoxicated and had a reputation for quiting on plays...how is that different?

Again i think this guy is a jerk, but if he can motivate and make our team better than having a few jerks around may be an ok thing.

Posted by: skinball77 | February 9, 2010 2:55 PM | Report abuse

Your sarcasm and ignorance sickens me.

Posted by: skinball77 | February 9, 2010 2:50 PM

Tell me something that the feds don't leak to the press within the first 5 min after it has been written.

Posted by: HPYTRKR1 | February 9, 2010 2:56 PM | Report abuse

"if he can motivate and make our team better than having a few jerks around may be an ok thing."

Again, I hear you Skinball, but I can't agree with you on this. I think "character guys" in a locker room can elevate everyone around them. I don't think a-holes/jerks do that anywhere near as effectively.

Posted by: manlius1 | February 9, 2010 2:59 PM | Report abuse

Well, how would we actually know the answer to that question, if it hadn't been leaked?

Posted by: JohnDinHouston | February 9, 2010 2:59 PM | Report abuse

Yeeeeeahhhh. Did we mention he admitted to using performance enhancing drugs? Oh, you stated that in the beginning. Guess you can overlook that because he's a "competitor".

Posted by: Bigfoot_has_a_posse


I am not overlooking it, i stated it, i am just saying he is a competitor. We dont seem to have many of those around the team. I am not forgiving it just offering up a reason as to why they may be looking at him is all.

I am not for this signing, i just see why they may be lookign at him.

Posted by: skinball77 | February 9, 2010 3:00 PM | Report abuse

Romo does know his way around the gym and wealth of knowledge when it comes to legal and illegal performance enhancing supplements/drugs.

http://www.nutrition53.com/

He would be a GREAT strength and conditioning coach but has too much baggage.

I agree with Curz and think in a few years that guy could be Phillip Daniels but he's not ready to retire.

Daniels: “Well up and getting ready to head to the gym and get my swole on. I'm back to powerlifting and I think a good goal for me this year is 800 squat, 500 bench and 700 dead lift. Time to go do it. Later.”

Here is some footage of Daniels and why he’s an animal.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=axKWxHZseoY

Posted by: Diesel44 | February 9, 2010 3:02 PM | Report abuse

I don't disagree with anything you said. However we brought in haynesworth last year and he was exactly the same as Romo was he not? I mean he stomped on a guys head, drove intoxicated and had a reputation for quiting on plays...how is that different?

Again i think this guy is a jerk, but if he can motivate and make our team better than having a few jerks around may be an ok thing.

Posted by: skinball77 | February 9, 2010 2:55 PM | Report abuse

Wait a minute. You just stated that Big Al and Romanowski are "exactly the same"? Vaguely similar would be closer to exactly the same dude. Romanowski is a complete train wreck in all aspects, Haynesworth is just big and lazy.

Posted by: Bigfoot_has_a_posse | February 9, 2010 3:03 PM | Report abuse

Again, I hear you Skinball, but I can't agree with you on this. I think "character guys" in a locker room can elevate everyone around them. I don't think a-holes/jerks do that anywhere near as effectively.


Posted by: manlius1


Campbell is one hell of a character guy, he hasn't elevated the play of anyone LOL, again i am not saying i want this jerk, i despise him, but you have to admit it would be fun to see waht happened.

Posted by: skinball77 | February 9, 2010 3:03 PM | Report abuse

Well, how would we actually know the answer to that question, if it hadn't been leaked?

Posted by: JohnDinHouston | February 9, 2010 2:59 PM |

Just trying to point out that guarding their draft plans and comparing them to the feds guarding their secrets was a very poor example.

Posted by: HPYTRKR1 | February 9, 2010 3:05 PM | Report abuse

I like the idea of Romonaski to the Skins...

Atleast half the players use HGH/Steriods/Gym Locker Room Products (Like the Cream)....

So why not get an expert in all of these things...especially since he passed so many drug tests...

FORWARD THINKING PEOPLE

Posted by: 4thFloor | February 9, 2010 3:05 PM | Report abuse

Wait a minute. You just stated that Big Al and Romanowski are "exactly the same"? Vaguely similar would be closer to exactly the same dude. Romanowski is a complete train wreck in all aspects, Haynesworth is just big and lazy.

Posted by: Bigfoot_has_a_posse


Big Al when we signed him was in a legal class-action lawsuit, that is a PR nightmare, he is an ahole for driving hoem while drunk possible hurting innocent people and is a poor sport for stomping on players heads who dont have a helmet on so yeah...the same just for different reasons

Posted by: skinball77 | February 9, 2010 3:06 PM | Report abuse

Romanowski? Is there some kind of Rooney Rule for interviewing trainers that are head cases? The things I remember about Romanowski are spitting on other players, beating up one of his teammates and a fishing tackle box filled with his assorted "vitamins" that he took every day. There is no way the Redskins can be serious about the guy.

Posted by: RedSkinHead | February 9, 2010 3:07 PM | Report abuse

Skinball -- to be fair, I did say "can elevate", not "do elevate". In any event, Romo as strength coach sounds more like a reality TV show than something you would want happening in Ashburn.

Posted by: manlius1 | February 9, 2010 3:07 PM | Report abuse

and i apologize, i really can spell, i just can't type well.

Posted by: skinball77 | February 9, 2010 3:08 PM | Report abuse

I don't understand why people think the Redskins can just draft a franchise QB next year - like its that easy. NFL teams can't forecast who they'll take in next year's draft. Bradford will be the next Joe Montana (just joking) that's why Shanahan will take him over Okung. The Skins can get the Colts OT that's going to be a free agent this year.

Posted by: coparker5 | February 9, 2010 3:11 PM | Report abuse

Skinball -- to be fair, I did say "can elevate", not "do elevate". In any event, Romo as strength coach sounds more like a reality TV show than something you would want happening in Ashburn.

Posted by: manlius1


to be fair for me as well i am against this dude, but i still took flack for that, its cool, can we get a couple aircraft carriers to haiti please?

oh come on that was funny.

Posted by: skinball77 | February 9, 2010 3:12 PM | Report abuse

In any event, Romo as strength coach sounds more like a reality TV show than something you would want happening in Ashburn.

Posted by: manlius1 | February 9, 2010 3:07 PM | Report abuse

Yeah, agreed. OK Skinball, you sort of make sense, but what point are you trying to make? Underneath all the horrible traits Romanowski is a dedicated hard worker? I'll agree with that.

Posted by: Bigfoot_has_a_posse | February 9, 2010 3:13 PM | Report abuse

That was pretty funny.

Posted by: manlius1 | February 9, 2010 3:14 PM | Report abuse

One overlooked story of the superbowl is that of Pierson Prioleau. This guy has followed Gregg Williams from Buffalo to Washington to Jacksonville to New Orleans. His loyalty and dedication has earned him a Superbowl ring.....congratulatons Pierson

Posted by: kingpenn1 | February 9, 2010 12:06 PM

I would say this falls more in to the category of "No one gives a sh!t," as opposed to overlooked. It would matter if the guy was good but he's just a guy.

Posted by: scampbell1975 | February 9, 2010 3:14 PM | Report abuse

Romo does know his way around the gym and wealth of knowledge when it comes to legal and illegal performance enhancing supplements/drugs.

http://www.nutrition53.com/

He would be a GREAT strength and conditioning coach but has too much baggage.

I agree with Curz and think in a few years that guy could be Phillip Daniels but he's not ready to retire.

Daniels: “Well up and getting ready to head to the gym and get my swole on. I'm back to powerlifting and I think a good goal for me this year is 800 squat, 500 bench and 700 dead lift. Time to go do it. Later.”

Here is some footage of Daniels and why he’s an animal.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=axKWxHZseoY

Posted by: Diesel44 | February 9, 2010 3:02 PM
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Daniels is a beast, but I suspect that something in his training regimen has led to a few injuries in the regular season. It's probably too much of a focus on strength and not enough of a focus on hydration and stretching. Whatever it is, we don't want the Redskins training room to become another "hamstring city". We need a trainer that balances the training regimen so the players can play with strength, endurance and without injury for the entire season. I really don't know who the right candidate might be, but I know what they should be looking for. Maybe a good place to start is to find what team played well and was injury free most of last season and offer their trainer more money...

Posted by: RedSkinHead | February 9, 2010 3:15 PM | Report abuse

to be fair for me as well i am against this dude, but i still took flack for that, its cool, can we get a couple aircraft carriers to haiti please?

oh come on that was funny.

Posted by: skinball77 | February 9, 2010 3:12 PM | Report abuse

lol. too soon, too soon. But what's the deal with these bible-ey people stealing kids down there? That some garbage or what?

Posted by: Bigfoot_has_a_posse | February 9, 2010 3:15 PM | Report abuse

Wait a minute. You just stated that Big Al and Romanowski are "exactly the same"? Vaguely similar would be closer to exactly the same dude. Romanowski is a complete train wreck in all aspects, Haynesworth is just big and lazy.

Posted by: Bigfoot_has_a_posse | February 9, 2010 3:03 PM |

Yea, but Romo was and is a maniac. No quitting on that dudes watch or he might shank you.

Posted by: scampbell1975 | February 9, 2010 3:17 PM | Report abuse

NOW president Terry O’Neill said it glorified violence against women. “I am blown away at the celebration of the violence against women in it,” she said. “That’s what comes across to me even more strongly than the anti-abortion message. I myself am a survivor of domestic violence, and I don’t find it charming. I think CBS should be ashamed of itself.”

Posted by: BeantownGreg1 | February 9, 2010 12:51 PM | Report abuse


NOW is pissed that the add wasn't anti-abortion enough. They had to scrap their original smear campaign and scramble to find something else to complain about.

Posted by: Original_etrod | February 9, 2010 1:08 PM | Report abuse


Yeah, really.

CBS should have just run another godaddy.com commercial in its place.

Posted by: p1funk | February 9, 2010 3:20 PM | Report abuse

lol. too soon, too soon. But what's the deal with these bible-ey people stealing kids down there? That some garbage or what?

Posted by: Bigfoot_has_a_posse


My bad...i popped into my head though and i have no filter so out it came.

I think it was a case of bad idea conducted by good people...just a bad deal.

someone look up how many games Romo missed due to injury in his career i am curious..thats a statement redskinhead. With Daniels the dude is strong but not flexible, so i think that leads to his injuries. With romo this cat was just in top shape(albeit illegally) ah the yin and yang of life.

Posted by: skinball77 | February 9, 2010 3:21 PM | Report abuse

Big Al when we signed him was in a legal class-action lawsuit, that is a PR nightmare, he is an ahole for driving hoem while drunk possible hurting innocent people and is a poor sport for stomping on players heads who dont have a helmet on so yeah...the same just for different reasons

Posted by: skinball77 | February 9, 2010 3:06 PM | Report abuse

Alcohol was not a factor in Big Al's wreck. Speed was the issue.

Posted by: iH8dallas | February 9, 2010 3:23 PM | Report abuse

Yea, but Romo was and is a maniac. No quitting on that dudes watch or he might shank you.

Posted by: scampbell1975 | February 9, 2010 3:17 PM | Report abuse


Exactly.

I like the idea of bringing in Romanowski as a "trainer".

He can stand over Clinton Portis and watch him work out.

The moment CP26 starts being a sissy, Romo can kick his whiny teeth down his throat.

Posted by: p1funk | February 9, 2010 3:28 PM | Report abuse

"CBS should have just run another godaddy.com commercial in its place."

The older I get, the better Danica Patrick looks.

Posted by: MistaMoe | February 9, 2010 3:31 PM | Report abuse

and is a poor sport for stomping on players heads who dont have a helmet on so yeah...the same just for different reasons

Posted by: skinball77 | February 9, 2010 3:06 PM | Report abuse
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The RI court strikes the above allegation under the grounds it was a Cowboy player.

Posted by: mattsoundworld | February 9, 2010 3:31 PM | Report abuse

I think Romanowski would rather just punch CP26 in the face, cracking his orbital bone.

Posted by: iH8dallas | February 9, 2010 3:32 PM | Report abuse

LaVar went to 3 straight ProBowls, you chump.

His career was cut short by injuries b/c he played balls to the wall.

And WTH does Sean Taylor have to do with the situation?

As time goes on and CP becomes more and more exposed for the lockerroom cancer that he is, it's clear he needs to get off this team. He ran out of active teammates to throw under the bus, so now he's going after former ones..

Posted by: p1funk | February 9, 2010 1:23 PM |
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Suddenly the Pro Bowl is MEANINGFUL to you?

LaVar is a POS, personally and professionally. The maggot couldn't FOLLOW DIRECTIONS, and as for his injuries, he had far more penalties for jumping offsides, personal fouls, and missed assignments than he did physical boo-boos.

I also apparently can't handle a frikkin motorcycle. I guess the idea of LEARNING how to ride one escaped him, much like the idea of learning and staying WITHIN a defensive scheme escaped him.

"balls to the wall" my azz; he was a me-first, look-at-me-Momma, bum.

You go ahead and stick with anacronisms like "chump." Oh, and your newfound respect for the Pro Bowl.

Happy trails!

Posted by: MrRedskin21 | February 9, 2010 3:32 PM | Report abuse

I like the idea of Romonaski to the Skins...

Atleast half the players use HGH/Steriods/Gym Locker Room Products (Like the Cream)....

So why not get an expert in all of these things...especially since he passed so many drug tests...

FORWARD THINKING PEOPLE

Posted by: 4thFloor | February 9, 2010 3:05 PM | Report abuse


Or they could use the whole "scared straight" angle.

They'll let Romanowski wander around the weight room kirking out as a living example of what happens when you jerk around with PEDs.

Posted by: p1funk | February 9, 2010 3:34 PM | Report abuse

He* also apparently

Posted by: MrRedskin21 | February 9, 2010 3:34 PM | Report abuse

if Shanahan really brings in Bill Romanowski as a coach, I cannot support this team as long if they employ that racist drug cheat. I've rooted for the Skins all my life but Romo is something I cannot tolerate.

Posted by: Liebercreep | February 9, 2010 3:34 PM | Report abuse

I know Romanowski was a juicer, but I hadn't heard him called a racist before.

Where does that come from?

Posted by: MrRedskin21 | February 9, 2010 3:40 PM | Report abuse

if Shanahan really brings in Bill Romanowski as a coach, I cannot support this team as long if they employ that racist drug cheat. I've rooted for the Skins all my life but Romo is something I cannot tolerate.

Posted by: Liebercreep | February 9, 2010 3:34 PM | Report abuse

Peace out then

Posted by: iH8dallas | February 9, 2010 3:40 PM | Report abuse

Romanowski? Is there some kind of Rooney Rule for interviewing trainers that are head cases? The things I remember about Romanowski are spitting on other players, beating up one of his teammates and a fishing tackle box filled with his assorted "vitamins" that he took every day. There is no way the Redskins can be serious about the guy.

Posted by: RedSkinHead | February 9, 2010 3:07 PM
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Maybe Snyder is doing Goodall a favor with the interview. To stop a "I've been blackballed by the NFL" Romo lawsuit.

Posted by: SkinsneedaGM | February 9, 2010 3:42 PM | Report abuse

Posted by: MrRedskin21 | February 9, 2010 3:32 PM | Report abuse


You're right.

"Highlight reels" are a much better measure of a player's worth than Pro Bowl appearances.

And you never clarified what Sean Taylor had to do with the whole discussion...

Whatever, the random Taylor reference along with your attempt to compare the statistical accomplishments of a running back to a linebacker should have clued me in to your overall idiocy and lack of rational coherence.

I blame myself for responding to you...I should have known better.


Posted by: p1funk | February 9, 2010 3:46 PM | Report abuse

I blame myself for responding to you...I should have known better.

Posted by: p1funk


Another door slammed shut LOL

Posted by: skinball77 | February 9, 2010 3:49 PM | Report abuse

I think Romanowski would rather just punch CP26 in the face, cracking his orbital bone.

Posted by: iH8dallas | February 9, 2010 3:32 PM | Report abuse


I'm not opposed to that.

This organization needs a designated arse-kicker to keep loud-mouth prima donna players in line.

I mean, the Ravens have Ray "The Nightclub Slasher" Lewis.

We need an out-of-control linebacker to do the same...and I doubt London Fletcher is the guy...

Posted by: p1funk | February 9, 2010 3:50 PM | Report abuse

Whatever, the random Taylor reference along with your attempt to compare the statistical accomplishments of a running back to a linebacker should have clued me in to your overall idiocy and lack of rational coherence.

I blame myself for responding to you...I should have known better.
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I didn't say a RB and a LB were on an even plane, jizz-licker, and if you want to go insult for insult, that's fine by me.

You obviously have your water-laden head deep up LA's rectum.

Neither CP or LA are my idea of true Redskins, so if you're looking to prolong the moronic back-and-forth between those two, find someone else who has a dog in that fight, like you do.

As for LA, the POS NEVER learned his role in the defense, wasn't interested in learning or playing disciplined, was never here for the team, but only for himself. An example of his overall me-first attitude is he doesn't think he has to actually apply for and get a motorcycle license (but rides one anyway, then wrecks it).

Yeah. He's a balls to the wall, a real cool dude.

Let me know if you want a balloon or a lollipop while you're waiting on the next retort.

Posted by: MrRedskin21 | February 9, 2010 3:53 PM | Report abuse

Romonawski, psycho, yes. Loyal and dedicated he is aswell. Brings a attitude along with Haslett the skins tryed to have with blache. Welcome aboard just leave the roids at home.

Posted by: sthai75 | February 9, 2010 3:56 PM | Report abuse

lavar is just trying his hardest to remain relavant...

Posted by: BeantownGreg1 | February 9, 2010 2:54 PM

To be fair...Portis shot his incoherent mouth off on the NFL network and Lavar has a radio show and responded.

Lavar is remembering his career a bit differently than the rest of us but in this exchange between him and Portis...Portis is the jackazz.

Portis needs to be cut and 106.7 should cut the Lavar & Dukes show.


Posted by: Diesel44 | February 9, 2010 3:58 PM | Report abuse

"I know Romanowski was a juicer, but I hadn't heard him called a racist before. Where does that come from?"

The was trial testimony where he stated he was reported to have said that he had to take 'stuff' in order to stay up and compete with the "blacks".

What the "blacks" take to stay up with each other is anybody's guess.

Posted by: MistaMoe | February 9, 2010 3:59 PM | Report abuse

Please. I'm no CP defender, but statistically he's accomplished far more in this league than LaVar ever did.

Posted by: MrRedskin21 | February 9, 2010 12:43 PM | Report abuse


I didn't say a RB and a LB were on an even plane,

Posted by: MrRedskin21 | February 9, 2010 3:53 PM | Report abuse


So would you care to explain WTH you are talking about then?

Or maybe we can get in-depth on the connection between player performance and the type of driver's license they carry, since that seems to be your new angle...

Posted by: p1funk | February 9, 2010 4:01 PM | Report abuse

...and BTW, what did Sean Taylor have to do with the discussion???

Posted by: p1funk | February 9, 2010 4:02 PM | Report abuse

Who'd you take in his prime?

A freelancing Lavar Arrington or Clinton Portis?

Moe goes with Lavar.

There's the hit on Aikman that left him an aching man.

I remember the touchdown interception return against the bucs that had me shouting, "ELLLLLL Yeah!!!!!!"

Any great play in a play off game scores three times as much as an occasional long run from Portis.

And we don't even get those anymore.

Posted by: MistaMoe | February 9, 2010 4:03 PM | Report abuse

jizz-licker
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Thats's just nasty. How many middle schoolers are on this blog?

Posted by: iH8dallas | February 9, 2010 4:03 PM | Report abuse

So would you care to explain WTH you are talking about then?

Or maybe we can get in-depth on the connection between player performance and the type of driver's license they carry, since that seems to be your new angle...

Posted by: p1funk | February 9, 2010 4:01 PM |
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You know EXACTLY what I'm talking about there, jagoff.

Portis has put his body on the line for this TEAM, and he CARRIED this team for LONG stretches at a time, including a stretch to help them make the playoffs in Gibbs 2.0.

LaVar? I'll give him this much: He was always the first one out of the parking lot so he could get home in time to see himself on SportCenter.

Now, the better question is: What kind of low-rent, middle age impotent white guy are you that you're enamored of an underachieving ADD-afflicted blowhard like LA?

Posted by: MrRedskin21 | February 9, 2010 4:05 PM | Report abuse

Who'd you take in his prime?

A freelancing Lavar Arrington or Clinton Portis
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I vote LaVar

Posted by: iH8dallas | February 9, 2010 4:07 PM | Report abuse

...and BTW, what did Sean Taylor have to do with the discussion???

Posted by: p1funk | February 9, 2010 4:02 PM |
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Sean Taylor = balls to the wall player.

LaVar Arrington = balls to the whirlpool player.

Posted by: MrRedskin21 | February 9, 2010 4:08 PM | Report abuse

Like Carlos Dunlap, for instance.

That guy IS a 3rd round pick.

Posted by: MistaMoe | February 9, 2010 1:34 PM | Report abuse

I wish he would fall that far, in most Mock Drafts he is slated to fall in the middle of the 1st round.

Posted by: gatorskinz2000 | February 9, 2010 4:09 PM | Report abuse

You know EXACTLY what I'm talking about there, jagoff.

Portis has put his body on the line for this TEAM, and he CARRIED this team for LONG stretches at a time, including a stretch to help them make the playoffs in Gibbs 2.0.

LaVar? I'll give him this much: He was always the first one out of the parking lot so he could get home in time to see himself on SportCenter.

Now, the better question is: What kind of low-rent, middle age impotent white guy are you that you're enamored of an underachieving ADD-afflicted blowhard like LA?

Posted by: MrRedskin21 | February 9, 2010 4:05 PM | Report abuse


You specifically mentioned statisical accomplishments in the league in your first post.

What does that have to do with what you just said in the above post???

Seriously, are you mentally all there?

Can you rationally connect your own thoughts to one another?

Or are you just going to respond to me with more profanities?


...And what on God's green earth did Sean Taylor have to do with the discussion???

Posted by: p1funk | February 9, 2010 4:11 PM | Report abuse

Why are we even concerning ourselves with LaVar and CP? LaVar has been gone, CP should be gone and we have a new beast of a LB- His name is Orakpo. How about letting him and Haynesworth freelance. As far as new RB's I could care less, Coach Shanahan seems to make great runners out of mediocre talent.

Posted by: iH8dallas | February 9, 2010 4:12 PM | Report abuse

Like Carlos Dunlap, for instance.

That guy IS a 3rd round pick.

Posted by: MistaMoe | February 9, 2010 1:34 PM | Report abuse

I wish he would fall that far, in most Mock Drafts he is slated to fall in the middle of the 1st round.

Posted by: gatorskinz2000 | February 9, 2010 4:09 PM

What difference would it make? We are without a 3rd.

Posted by: Diesel44 | February 9, 2010 4:12 PM | Report abuse

Lavar made our Arch rivals QB retire.

F the Cowboys.

Even if that was the only play he ever made, it will be remembered decades from now.

Posted by: gatorskinz2000 | February 9, 2010 4:13 PM | Report abuse

A freelancing LaVar in his prime?

LOL.. Go check his stats. He had one good year, 2002, and one decent year, 2003.

The rest of his career he spent A) injured, B) crying about money, C) running his mouth about what he was going to do, D) being out of position and costing the team yards/points, and E) all of the above simultaneously.

Posted by: MrRedskin21 | February 9, 2010 4:13 PM | Report abuse

Who'd you take in his prime?

A freelancing Lavar Arrington or Clinton Portis
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I vote LaVar

Posted by: iH8dallas | February 9, 2010 4:07 PM | Report abuse


I vote LaVar too.

But watch out...MrRedskin21 has some colorful thoughts for anyone who likes LaVar...

Posted by: p1funk | February 9, 2010 4:14 PM | Report abuse

What difference would it make? We are without a 3rd.

Posted by: Diesel44 | February 9, 2010 4:12 PM | Report abuse

For now. The thing about all these mock drafts is that none of them take into account the wheeling and dealing that takes place on the day of the draft.

I think it is safe to say not one person has ever nailed a perfect Mock draft.

We made many boneheaded trades with Denver. We cn only hope that Shanahan was the orchestrator of those trades and he can pull some extra picks from another team.

Of course now that Vinny is gone I am not sure if he can find another clown to trade like him.

Posted by: gatorskinz2000 | February 9, 2010 4:16 PM | Report abuse

...And what on God's green earth did Sean Taylor have to do with the discussion???

Posted by: p1funk | February 9, 2010 4:11 PM |
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I've made my points re LA. You've dodged the question re why you're up his bum.

Now you're reduced to crying about "profanities."

That's usually a sure sign the game is up.

PS: Other Skins (aside from ST21) who were ACTUALLY "balls to the wall" in a way Arrington can only PRETEND to be.

Wilbur Marshall
Alvin Walton
Kurt Gouveia
etc., etc., etc...

Now be sure to affect a dumbfounded attitude as to why any of these players have anything to do with LA.

It's your schtick.

Posted by: MrRedskin21 | February 9, 2010 4:19 PM | Report abuse

But watch out...MrRedskin21 has some colorful thoughts for anyone who likes LaVar...

Posted by: p1funk | February 9, 2010 4:14 PM |
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Nah, I only toss "colorful thoughts" at people who call me "idiot" first.

Really, why are you such a cry-baby? You began with the insults, then you run around like an old woman whining to anyone who will listen that you're being attacked with "profanities."

Man-up. Be like your good buddy LaVar and "tough it out." Balls to the wall, yannow.

heheh

Posted by: MrRedskin21 | February 9, 2010 4:23 PM | Report abuse

lol. too soon, too soon. But what's the deal with these bible-ey people stealing kids down there? That some garbage or what?

Posted by: Bigfoot_has_a_posse | February 9, 2010 3:15 PM

If they are stealing kids they are not real bible-ey people.

Posted by: scampbell1975 | February 9, 2010 4:26 PM | Report abuse

Posted by: MrRedskin21 | February 9, 2010 4:19 PM | Report abuse


Please. I'm no CP defender, but statistically he's accomplished far more in this league than LaVar ever did.

In fact, aside from knocking Aikman out, Arrington has no highlight reel. Sean Taylor's brief career contains more big plays than Arrington's.

Guess that's why the hater is sitting in a radio studio bi*ching and moaning about everyone else.

Posted by: MrRedskin21 | February 9, 2010 12:43 PM | Report abuse


?!?!?

LaVar went to 3 straight ProBowls, you chump.

His career was cut short by injuries b/c he played balls to the wall.

And WTH does Sean Taylor have to do with the situation?

As time goes on and CP becomes more and more exposed for the lockerroom cancer that he is, it's clear he needs to get off this team. He ran out of active teammates to throw under the bus, so now he's going after former ones..

Posted by: p1funk | February 9, 2010 1:23 PM | Report abuse


I mentioned LaVar playing "balls to the wall" AFTER you brought up Sean Taylor.

So for you to cite that phrase of mine as a the CAUSE of your Taylor reference is "non sequitir" - it does not logically follow.

See, it's that whole "rational coherence" bit that seems to be the key ingredient that is consistently missing from your thoughts.


Yes, you've made your points:


Point 1 - Highlight reels are a better measure of a player's worth than ProBowls.

Point 2 - CP has accomplished more statistically in this league than LaVar, but you'd never compare an RB to an LB.

Point 3 - LaVar didn't have the proper driver's license.

Point 4 - Sean Taylor. Don't ask me why he's connected...just... Sean Taylor.


And to answer your question, I like LaVar for giving us 3 ProBowl seasons when there was little else happening for the Skins, and for knocking Aikman into retirement.

Thanks for the amusing exchange. You've just joined "pabrian" on my "Do Not Respond" list.

Have a nice life.

Posted by: p1funk | February 9, 2010 4:33 PM | Report abuse

We made many boneheaded trades with Denver. We cn only hope that Shanahan was the orchestrator of those trades and he can pull some extra picks from another team.

Of course now that Vinny is gone I am not sure if he can find another clown to trade like him.

Posted by: gatorskinz2000 | February 9, 2010 4:16 PM |

Not only is Vinnie gone but so is Millen. That sucker in Chicago seems a good target.

Posted by: scampbell1975 | February 9, 2010 4:34 PM | Report abuse

"But what's the deal with these bible-ey people stealing kids down there? That some garbage or what?"

What's killer is the parents who willingly give their kids away to strangers.

Me?: if people showed up looking to run off with one of my fine-azzed daughters, I'd have only one question:

"How much?"

Posted by: MistaMoe | February 9, 2010 4:35 PM | Report abuse

Not only is Vinnie gone but so is Millen. That sucker in Chicago seems a good target.

Posted by: scampbell1975 | February 9, 2010 4:34 PM

Only 1 problem...he blew his load last year.

Posted by: Diesel44 | February 9, 2010 4:38 PM | Report abuse

Moe, that's just bad...and like you say, maybe why it's funny.


Beeps, folks.

Posted by: Curzon417 | February 9, 2010 4:38 PM | Report abuse

Point 1 - Highlight reels are a better measure of a player's worth than ProBowls. (Never said that)

Point 2 - CP has accomplished more statistically in this league than LaVar, but you'd never compare an RB to an LB. (Never said that either)

Point 3 - LaVar didn't have the proper driver's license. (True, he doesn't follow direction, on or off the field)

Point 4 - Sean Taylor. Don't ask me why he's connected...just... Sean Taylor. (I mentioned Taylor because his career was shorter, yet filled with bigger plays than LaVar's longer, and decidely less productive career).

I didn't respond with insults to your comments on my original post. However, you went with "chump" and "idiot" right out of the gate, then whined like a little girl when you got something tossed back at you.

But ultimately you're right: You shouldn't post back and forth with me; you can't keep the facts straight, you don't read for content, and you dish an insult but cannot take one in return.

Enjoy your low-testosterone existence here on RI, pal!

Posted by: MrRedskin21 | February 9, 2010 4:40 PM | Report abuse

One overlooked story of the superbowl is that of Pierson Prioleau. This guy has followed Gregg Williams from Buffalo to Washington to Jacksonville to New Orleans. His loyalty and dedication has earned him a Superbowl ring.....congratulatons Pierson

Posted by: kingpenn1 | February 9, 2010 12:06 PM

I would say this falls more in to the category of "No one gives a sh!t," as opposed to overlooked. It would matter if the guy was good but he's just a guy.

Posted by: scampbell197bn
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Well i guess that would make you the sh!t face that gives a sh!t because you responded...dumba$$

Posted by: kingpenn1 | February 9, 2010 4:40 PM | Report abuse

Well i guess that would make you the sh!t face that gives a sh!t because you responded...dumba$$

Posted by: kingpenn1 | February 9, 2010 4:40 PM |

That's weak man. Come up with something better to get me riled, that's just kids play. That sh!t you're flinging ain't no better than the jizz stuck to the back of your daddies leg after his "workout" session with his new "trainer."

Posted by: scampbell1975 | February 9, 2010 4:56 PM | Report abuse

Far too much commentary for such a basic situation - if the Skins "brain trust" cannot rebuild an OL, then it is irrevelant who the QB is or who the other "skill" position players are. The results will be the same - a tepid team incapable of improvement.

Posted by: i155133 | February 9, 2010 5:08 PM | Report abuse

QB with the 1st rounder, O linemen with the next 3 pics to protect that QB they select in the 1st round.

Find FA CB's to back up DeAngelo (I should keep my mouth shut) Hall and FA WR's. Play Cooley and Fred Davis in a 2 TE offense.

Posted by: jsmith33351 | February 9, 2010 9:12 PM | Report abuse

NO, NO, NO. Draft the QB now.

That being said, Campbell will NOT take a one year deal. He played this entire season with his eyes on a long term deal.

The way to get a left take is to sign one. We have Samuels' money. Sign Willie Colon, and draft Bradford.

Campbell just sucks.

Posted by: Redskin_in_miami | February 10, 2010 1:51 AM | Report abuse

Why in the world would you be looking to "mock drafts" on the internet to speculate on the Redskins draft pick, or worse, corroborate your opinion? These mock drafts are posted by people who WISH they had inside information. They don't know any more than I know. All they are going on is the Redskins history of sexy picks and quick fixes.

If the skins don't pick OL in first round, I'm pi$$ed. Campbell on his feet is better than Bradford/Clausen/Jurgensen on his A$$.

Posted by: jerrydavis1 | February 9, 2010 12:06 PM | Report abuse

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Jerruh,

Get ready to be "pi$$ed" then. The rest of the NFL doesn't think much of Campbell. We're picking a QB!!!

Posted by: Redskin_in_miami | February 10, 2010 1:59 AM | Report abuse

At this stage in JC's career, why should he have to compete for his starting job? He never has in the past? Where is the respect??
Posted by: SkinsneedaGM
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Do you watch football??? Campbell SUCKS!!! He should have had to compete in 2007, 2008 and 2009. He will be lucky if he is kept to compete this year. But I say get rid of him. I'm so tired of the excuses.. the OL isn't good. Well it isn't good on GB either and Rogers got that team in the playoffs. Look don't believe me but how about Rodney Harrison who said JC should be a backup QB or Mark Rypien who didn't think JC was a good fit for this offense. Or Sonny Jurgensen who said the Redskins would do better with Collins as the starter or Charlie Casserly who said Jason is to slow to decide where to throw the ball or Chris Collingworth who blamed Campbell on the number of sacks he gets because he can't read the blitz or Clinton Portis who said JC is not a leader and Chris Cooley for not disagreeing with that. It all points to one thing.. Campbell SUCKS!! Now he is unsigned.. and people want him back for a year to bridge in a new QB??? Why? To sign him it will cost MILLIONS! If they need a bridge use Collins he is probably better and certainly as good. Or use Colt.. who is an unknown right now but really how could he be worse? And he might be a lot better. Campbell is a LOSER!!! He split the team he split the fans...Get rid of him NOW...

Posted by: sovine08 | February 10, 2010 10:29 AM | Report abuse

To add t Sovine08 on Campbell. He is 28 now, I think. 29 next year. A FB players peak year statistically is 27. I know that no one is suggesting him long term, but he isnt the answer in any case. There is no point in not moving on. In addition, Todd Collins is not a starter. He will come off the bench and throw a couple big passes as the secondary adjusts and his adrenalin blasts, but then it's back to sub par. Its back to why he has not been able to lock down a starter job anywhere. If you need a bridge use colt. Question: Is it to late to trade for picks. A 3rd for Portis and a 5th for Campbell would help.

Posted by: robjway1 | February 14, 2010 12:15 AM | Report abuse

Dan Snyder turned the Redskins into LOSERS soon as he bought the team, yet another new coach with another new system and a bunch of rookie draft picks just ain't gonna matter...figure 8-8 next year if you are lucky.

Posted by: JCM-51 | February 14, 2010 10:42 PM | Report abuse

I say this every year, might as well say it again: trade DOWN draft OLINE.

Posted by: Pepper5 | February 15, 2010 9:16 AM | Report abuse

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