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Sooner or later, Portis's health must be addressed

Obviously, the health of running back Clinton Portis should be the Redskins' top concern. It was unsettling to watch Portis lay on the Georgia Dome field after suffering a concussion early during the 31-17 loss to the Atlanta Falcons, and it would be wise for him to sit out for some time because of the head injury.

Portis's situation, however, renews immediate and long-term questions about the state of the Redskins' running game. It was clear from the start of training camp that Portis was not in top condition, according to some in the organization who requested anonymity because of Portis's high standing with management. And during the first eight games, Portis simply did not display the burst and sharpness on his cuts he did last season.

Prompted by concerns about Portis's performance, in large part, the Redskins at one point made the highly unusual move of carrying five running backs on the 53-man roster. With 790 yards in eight games, the Redskins rank 24th in the league in rushing. Their 4.0-yard average is tied for 21st in the NFL.

In fairness to Portis and Washington's other running backs, the patchwork offensive line has been in disarray since right guard Randy Thomas and Pro Bowl left tackle Chris Samuels suffered season-ending injuries. But Portis missed holes at the start of the season when Samuels and Thomas were in the lineup together, albeit briefly.

Of course, every running back misses holes. No one is perfect. But some of Portis's teammates believe his performance in Washington has suffered because of his poor practice habits. That's not my opinion; it's the opinion of people with whom he works.

And there was the Mike Sellers incident. Players privately still criticize Portis for attempting to have Sellers demoted during a 16-13 victory over the Tampa Bay Buccaneers. Portis had the right to express his opinion about Sellers's blocking, players said. It was not cool, however, for Portis to go to coaches in an effort to have Sellers removed from the game.

Portis has rushed for 494 yards (he has a 4.0-yard average) and has scored one touchdown. During the loss to the Falcons, backup Ladell Betts displayed a burst rarely seen in Washington's rushing attack the last 16 games while producing a team-high 70 yards on 15 carries (a 4.7-yard average) and scoring his first touchdown. Betts tied Portis and punter Hunter Smith for the team lead in rushing touchdowns.

Betts is a hard worker, and coaches rewarded him for his dedication in naming him the third-down back out of training camp. Betts would become the primary back as long as Portis is sidelined, Coach Jim Zorn said.

"Ladell will start if Clinton can't go," Zorn said the other day. "There's still a chance Clinton can go, but I think it's doubtful. That's a 25 percent chance."

Against the Falcons, Betts provided the spark the Redskins have sought most of the season. At 30, however, Betts is not a long-term answer.

Portis is 28. He has a lot of mileage on him after all those carries and yards over the years, and the Redskins owe him a lot of money next season. Most of his base salary of nearly $7.2 million is guaranteed, and he also is due roster and workout bonuses totaling more than $507,000.

Clearly, with the way Portis slowed down in the second half last season (he rushed for at least 80 yards only twice in the final eight games in 2008) at that stage of his career, the Redskins should have selected a running back high in the draft. But Washington traded its second-round pick to the Miami Dolphins in the Jason Taylor trade - the Redskins also gave the Dolphins their sixth-round pick in the 2010 draft - and its fourth-round pick to the New York Jets in the Pete Kendall deal.

Philadelphia Eagles all-pro back Brian Westbrook is the second to none as an all-purpose runner. But the Eagles at the end of last season determined Westbrook, 30, was getting to that point for running backs, and they needed to begin thinking about the future. With the 53rd overall pick in the second round of the draft, the Eagles selected back LeSean McCoy from Pittsburgh.

In Week 7, Westbrook suffered a concussion in Philadelphia's 27-17 victory over the Redskins at FedEx Field. McCoy started and scored on a 66-yard touchdown run the next week in Philadelphia's 40-17 victory over the New York Giants. He had 99 total yards from scrimmage in Sunday's 20-16 loss to the Dallas Cowboys. McCoy has 348 yards rushing on 83 carries (a 4.2-yard average) and 20 receptions for 163 yards.

In next April's draft, the Redskins hold picks in the first, second, fourth, fifth and seventh rounds. Washington has major needs along the offensive line, and the team might finally have to address their running back situation, one way or another.

By Jason Reid  |  November 10, 2009; 2:30 PM ET
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Comments

First to say get rid of Portis. Put him on IR then try to trade him next year. If no one bits then release his. He sucks. Betts was much better running on Sunday.

Posted by: TheJury | November 10, 2009 2:35 PM | Report abuse

"Also, rookie OL are rarely that good out of the box, it takes a couple years to get good. Clady last year and Oher this year seem to be exceptions.

Posted by: zcezcest1"

I beg to differ. Don't forget Joe Thomas and Jake Long. One of Carolina's first round picks last season when both Deangelo Hall and Jonathan Stewart went off? Jeff Otah, RT. Nick Mangold was a stud from the beginning for the Jets. Sam Baker was an immediate starting LT for the Falcons in their turnaround season. This is a consistent theme among plenty of talented linemen that goes back. Jonathan Ogden, Orlando Pace, Walter Jones, Steve Hutchinson, and Chris Samuels were all big time out of the gate. And you already mentioned Ryan Clady and Michael Oher.

The common thread between all of these guys: they were all first round picks. Every year quick impact linemen come out. You gotta pay to play though, and all we've thrown in was one 3rd round pick in 10 years.

Posted by: psps23

Posted by: psps23 | November 10, 2009 2:38 PM | Report abuse

In fairness to Portis and Washington's other running backs, the patchwork offensive line has been in disarray since right guard Randy Thomas and Pro Bowl left tackle Chris Samuels suffered season-ending injuries.

By Jason Reid | November 10, 2009; 2:30 PM ET

It has been in "disarray" a lot longer than that. I'd say the dissaration started about the middle of last season. But, it's looking up now that Levi Jones is taking the field.

Posted by: League-Source | November 10, 2009 2:39 PM | Report abuse

"Obviously, the health of running back Clinton Portis should be the Redskins' top concern."

FAIL.

Posted by: REXskins | November 10, 2009 2:41 PM | Report abuse

at that stage of his career, the Redskins should have selected a running back high in the draft

Are you out of you fing mind!!! No they need to pick o lineman. You need to change your name to the second coming of Vinny.

Posted by: jm220 | November 10, 2009 2:45 PM | Report abuse

"In next April's draft, the Redskins hold picks in the first, second, fourth, fifth and seventh rounds."

That is not enough picks. Anyways, I would use all the picks on OL and running back.

Posted by: TheJury | November 10, 2009 2:46 PM | Report abuse

for the draft, I trade down and try to get more. Clady was around 12th overall, Oher was 20 something.

My draft looks like this.

Trade round high 1 pick for lower round 1 pick and second rounder. Trade two 2nd rounders for late first rounder.

Then I pick as follows:

1 OL
1 OL
3 OL
4 OL
5 OL
6 OL
7 OL

Posted by: zcezcest1 | November 10, 2009 2:46 PM | Report abuse

JC sucks whaaaa!!

Posted by: Vic1 | November 10, 2009 2:20 PM | Report abuse

You guys keep trotting out the 5 year thing like it actually means something. You can't just lock a QB in a room for 5 years and expect him to develop. What makes you think he was even taught anything valuable in the 5 years he was here? Out of 5 years he's only played for 3. In his first year and a half he had no receivers other than Moss and Cooley. Then when he finally gets his receivers the damn line falls apart. There was a 6 month overlap in there where he had receivers, a run game, and good protection. He fared pretty well. So really, what did we actually do to develop him? I'd resign him and fix the biggest issues first. I know we want the best team possible so ask yourself this question: Is Jason Campbell a better QB than Stephon Heyer is an Offensive Tackle? I think so. Resigning Campbell and building an offensive line should be the top priority. Then get a RB. Then when it's all in place you draft a young QB. That's how you develop a QB. Take a QB next year and let him ride the pine while the oline gels and the receivers learn their routes. Then in another year or so have an open competition. If JC sucks so bad the young gun will beat him and earn the job.

Posted by: PAskinsfan17 | November 10, 2009 2:49 PM | Report abuse

Don't forget SLB... they need one of those too so Orakpo can play at his natural position.

Posted by: JinxMan | November 10, 2009 2:50 PM | Report abuse

this team needs to build itself from the lines out. The DL is in good shape, the OL is what what know it is. Build the OL and about 10 other problems disappear.

Posted by: zcezcest1 | November 10, 2009 2:50 PM | Report abuse

Betts tied Portis and punter Hunter Smith for the team lead in rushing touchdowns.


hahahahahahh, well played mayor, well played

Posted by: zjfr2 | November 10, 2009 2:52 PM | Report abuse

Fans would march on Park with pitchforks and torches.

Posted by: MrPink | November 10, 2009 12:56 PM | Report abuse

Yes but Mr. Snyder would charge them for it plus no pitchforks or torches because they might poke somebody in the eye.

Posted by: sfskin | November 10, 2009 2:52 PM | Report abuse

would two of those problems that disappear be Vinnie and Danny?

Posted by: JohnDinHouston | November 10, 2009 2:53 PM | Report abuse

Portis is history.. Time to move on. The U guys were good, but now we need someone who sets a more positive example, like being in shape and practicing now and then.

Posted by: VegasJim | November 10, 2009 2:54 PM | Report abuse

Noone is getting rid of Portis. He is Mr. Snyder's Consigliere. He is loyal to the owner and that's the type of character players Mr. Snyder is looking for. Word is we may extend his contract until he turns 35. Loyalty to those who deserve loyalty. Gibbs misused his talent, hence, his injuries. I blame his lack of porduction on Gibbs.

Posted by: Incognito00 | November 10, 2009 2:54 PM | Report abuse


While the strategy is quite clear, remember that there is no 3rd next year.

Trade round high 1 pick for lower round 1 pick and second rounder. Trade two 2nd rounders for late first rounder.

Then I pick as follows:


1 OL
1 OL
3 OL
4 OL
5 OL
6 OL
7 OL
Posted by: zcezcest1 | November 10, 2009 2:46 PM | Report abuse

Posted by: zornskins2 | November 10, 2009 2:56 PM | Report abuse

Skins Mock '10 Draft

Round 1: Sam Bradford, Oklahoma
Round 2: Julio Jones, Alabama
Round 4: Golden Tate, Notre Dame
Round 5: Best Available FB/TE
Round 7: Best Available FB/TE

Posted by: mattsoundworld | November 10, 2009 2:56 PM | Report abuse

"Betts tied Portis and punter Hunter Smith for the team lead in rushing touchdowns."
That sums up the redskins in a nutshll right there. LOL.

Posted by: BMACattack | November 10, 2009 2:57 PM | Report abuse

Noone is getting rid of Portis.

Posted by: Incognito00 | November 10, 2009 2:54 PM
=====================================

I am? How? When? Give me some details...
Is there money invovled? I have an opening 1pm next Sunday

Posted by: noonefromtampa | November 10, 2009 3:02 PM | Report abuse

Running backs are the most overrated players in the salary cap era. There are dozens of excellent athletes playing RB in college. The 'Skins should draft a power back in the 3rd or 4th round and run him into the ground throughout his rookie deal. Then they should release him (he'll be auditioning for other teams his last year with us) and do the same again. Repeat ad infinitum.

People talk about Haynesworth choking the cap but he's productive and demands OL attention. Portis is an albatross round Washington's neck as far as the cap goes and his production is only gonna go down.

It's not all on Clinton (Gibbs didn't use him right and the OL is a shambles) but there's no room for sentiment. You think the Pitt RB that the Iggles drafted wouldn't have done a job for us this year?

We need OL, a SLB and a RB. The secondary also looks to be a mess, so here's hoping for an uncapped year and several other owners looking to dump contracts.

(Sigh) Hail...

Posted by: stevebeagrie | November 10, 2009 3:04 PM | Report abuse

how about, if Portis is made to show up and get in shape, and has to play in the preseason, and has his legs back under him, and splits carries with Betts....lets see what happens then...

Posted by: BeantownGreg1 | November 10, 2009 3:05 PM | Report abuse

JC will be an asset for another team next year. He's a class act. I just hope he doesn't have to settle for Tampa of some shiz team like that.

Posted by: Salinas1

Yes, because living in the DC area is so much better than Tampa. NOT!

Posted by: 1965skinsfan | November 10, 2009 3:06 PM | Report abuse

I think we have to take an RB in the draft. Given the QBs coming out I'd take an RB over a QB. Betts is a short term answer maybe . . . I want to be excited about him but I keep flashing to the Saints game where he was heading down the sidelines and fumbled short of the endzone . . .arrggghhhh

Isn't JC unrestricted FA? Do we think he'd even come back if there is another team willing to sign him?

Posted by: sfskin | November 10, 2009 3:06 PM | Report abuse

how about, if Portis is made to show up and get in shape, and has to play in the preseason, and has his legs back under him, and splits carries with Betts....lets see what happens then...

Posted by: BeantownGreg1


Sure,

right after he** freezes over!

Posted by: 1965skinsfan | November 10, 2009 3:07 PM | Report abuse

Ok all you guys who are College football guru's...who are the best RB's?

Posted by: FedorEm | November 10, 2009 3:07 PM | Report abuse

The Dude is cancer in the locker room -- a clown-faced distraction on the sidelines -- and the perfect personification of the notion that all you really need to do to get ahead around here is to suck up to the owner and his cronies.

And unfortunately, the only GM/VP for football operations in the entire league who would now consider something as absurd as trading for CP26 already works for the Redskins -- and even someone as slowwitted as Vinny Bugeyes will eventually figure out there's no need to trade for another washed up, waste of space player -– especially if this loser is already on your roster.

So for better or worse, CP26 is our problem child to contend with for at least another season and a half -- and we should count the money committed to him as already spent -- wasted away and irrecoverable.

So now comes the decision on whether to keep CR26 on the active roster or just inactivate him already, write him off as a lost cause, and use his roster spot for someone else who actually wants to play here.

And regardless, while he is still on the payroll, perhaps the ownership group could recover at least some of their sunk costs in him by asking him to apply his waning talents to serving drinks, hors devours, and cigars in the owner's box -- like so many of the other nearly departed and/or over the hill gang that seem manage to hang on to some tortured and fleeting sense of their legacies by haunting the bowels and crevices of FEDEX Field on game days.

Posted by: Vic1 | November 10, 2009 3:09 PM | Report abuse

how about, if Portis is made to show up and get in shape, and has to play in the preseason, and has his legs back under him, and splits carries with Betts....lets see what happens then...

Posted by: BeantownGreg1 | November 10, 2009 3:05 PM | Report abuse


Before all that he needs to get the bone spurs in his ankles taken care of.

Hard to compare WRs to RBs, but Ochocinco had bone spurs in his one ankle last year when he was struggling. Got them taken care of and now looks to be back to his old self.

Posted by: PortisPocketsStr8 | November 10, 2009 3:11 PM | Report abuse

mattsoundworld

Round 1: Sam Bradford, Oklahoma
Round 2: Julio Jones, Alabama
Round 4: Golden Tate, Notre Dame
Round 5: Best Available FB/TE
Round 7: Best Available FB/TE


Not to hate, but I prefer:

Free Agency: Best availiable right guard and tackle.

Round 1: CJ Spiller or Russell Okung
Round 2: Sam Bradford (his shoulder injury will cause him to drop) or Jacoby Ford
Round 3: gone
Round 4: offensive linemen
Round 5: offensive linemen
Round 7: offensive linemen

Posted by: MistaMoe | November 10, 2009 3:12 PM | Report abuse

Skins Mock '10 Draft

Round 1: Sam Bradford, Oklahoma
Round 2: Julio Jones, Alabama
Round 4: Golden Tate, Notre Dame
Round 5: Best Available FB/TE
Round 7: Best Available FB/TE

Posted by: mattsoundworld | November 10, 2009 2:56 PM

That is just about perfect. But rounds 5 and 7 would nickel corners....or "core special teamers."

Posted by: knight1977 | November 10, 2009 3:12 PM | Report abuse

How about just cutting Portis. The Cowgirls saw the writing on the wall with TO. It isn't the exact same problem but if he can't even get into shape when he is raking in millions its time for him to move on. The guy wearing #26 this year is not the same guy I have rooted for and been very happy with the past 5 years.

Posted by: ToddStinkston | November 10, 2009 3:13 PM | Report abuse

Greg, are you alrerady giving your "let's see what happens"-isms for the 2010 season???

Posted by: dlhaze1 | November 10, 2009 3:13 PM | Report abuse

Moe

I dont think we can trade either player Roger or JC, neither has much value as of right now or ever, but I do think that at least one of them needs to go and will, CR22.

I am one for keeping Campbell, under the right circumstances...for instance, if Cowher were to come in here and coach, MIND that is IF...then i would keep JC, system fits his skills, if we bring in Holmgren or some other WCO puke, I dont think JC will ever work. Also, it will never work if OL is the same.

I think if we could draft a RB high in the round or trade to get a pick that could get us a RB, then Portis would be fine if he is healthy and forced to practice. Hopefully by year end next year, Portis is being utilized more as a 3rd down back and the rookie leading the race in every down back. It is getting a coach that is willing to utilize all the players to their full potential.

Hail Skins, either way I will support the team I love and have watched for 28 plus years and I just purchased a suite for the next 5 years.

Posted by: mhartz1 | November 10, 2009 3:14 PM | Report abuse

Ok all you guys who are College football guru's...who are the best RB's?

Posted by: FedorEm | November 10, 2009 3:07 PM | Report abuse


Here's a good website to get you started.

http://walterfootball.com/draft2010RB.php

I agree with them for the most part but keep in mind that player rankings are subjective and that no rankings are perfect. Also, the draft usuallu goes from 0 to fubard inside of 5 picks.

Posted by: PAskinsfan17 | November 10, 2009 3:16 PM | Report abuse

Not to hate, but I prefer:

Free Agency: Best availiable right guard and tackle.

Round 1: CJ Spiller or Russell Okung
Round 2: Sam Bradford (his shoulder injury will cause him to drop) or Jacoby Ford
Round 3: gone
Round 4: offensive linemen
Round 5: offensive linemen
Round 7: offensive linemen

Posted by: MistaMoe | November 10, 2009 3:12 PM |


I prefer Tony Pike from UC more than Bradford, he seems a little less injury prone, has a cannon of an arm and is a little mobile also 6'6, hopefully no more JC batted passes.

Posted by: mhartz1 | November 10, 2009 3:16 PM | Report abuse

Ok all you guys who are College football guru's...who are the best RB's?

Posted by: FedorEm | November 10, 2009 3:07 PM | Report abuse

Javod Best
Jonathon Dwyer
CJ Spiller

are the top guys, not a deep draft for backs or oline, however a very deep draft for QBs.

IMO we should go OT 1, RB high 2nd, and trade back into the 2nd to get a QB. Send our 4th and 2 next year and get into the middle of the 2nd round for one of Case Keenum, Zac Randolph, Jevin Snead, Tebow, or Pike.

Posted by: zjfr2 | November 10, 2009 3:17 PM | Report abuse

any coach coming in here, has to have the cache to tell DS to go market something, and that the moment that portis goes behind the coach's back, he's done.....DS has to stop with the nonsense, he has to realize his involvement is holding this team back....

Posted by: BeantownGreg1 | November 10, 2009 3:18 PM | Report abuse

and I would like to add a SLB in free agency

Posted by: mhartz1 | November 10, 2009 3:18 PM | Report abuse

Detroit wants to trade out of their first.

Trade our 2nd rounder and (if there is no cap) any of the following to them: CP, LL, ARE, Griff, Monty, R Thomas, Rabach, JC, Yoder, Rock.... etc. to get their 1st.

Take Okung and CJ Spiller in top 5 and rest O-line.

CJ SPILLER CJ SPILLER CJ SPILLER

If we pass on Spiller, its going to be as bad as passing on Peterson for Landry.

Posted by: Rypien11 | November 10, 2009 3:20 PM | Report abuse

Who is this Bruce Campbell from UMD? He is rated only behind Okung. Okung is the only OT I've heard people on here chat about.

Posted by: FedorEm | November 10, 2009 3:20 PM | Report abuse

how about, if Portis is made to show up and get in shape, and has to play in the preseason, and has his legs back under him, and splits carries with Betts....lets see what happens then...

Posted by: BeantownGreg1 | November 10, 2009 3:05 PM | Report abuse

As per his conversation with Mr. Snyder it's Mr. Snyder's prerogative to let Portis sit and rest as he please for the betterment of the organization. But you all don't know what that means. You don't know how to run a billion dollar organization, do you? ok thanks.

Posted by: Incognito00 | November 10, 2009 3:21 PM | Report abuse

dl, instead of using a pick on a RB, lets make the most of what we have now...portis is out of shape...he needs to get in shape, he needs to practice, he needs to play in the pre-season...no excuses...no running to the owner....all draft picks go to the OL...

Posted by: BeantownGreg1 | November 10, 2009 3:22 PM | Report abuse

beeps

Posted by: BeantownGreg1 | November 10, 2009 3:23 PM | Report abuse

Before all that he needs to get the bone spurs in his ankles taken care of.

Hard to compare WRs to RBs, but Ochocinco had bone spurs in his one ankle last year when he was struggling. Got them taken care of and now looks to be back to his old self.

Posted by: PortisPocketsStr8 | November 10, 2009 3:11 PM | Report abuse

Thank you - this is one reasonable individual.

Don't nobody is going to trade him, get over it.

Posted by: Incognito00 | November 10, 2009 3:23 PM | Report abuse

Thanks for that site PAskinsfan17. Really good info.

Posted by: FedorEm | November 10, 2009 3:24 PM | Report abuse

As per his conversation with Mr. Snyder it's Mr. Snyder's prerogative to let Portis sit and rest as he please for the betterment of the organization. But you all don't know what that means. You don't know how to run a billion dollar organization, do you? ok thanks.

Posted by: Incognito00 | November 10, 2009 3:21 PM

And neither do you or Little Prick Danny...ok thanks.

Posted by: knight1977 | November 10, 2009 3:25 PM | Report abuse

It's not so much injuries are mounting as it is the lack of pre-season commitment and conditioning are simply continuing to take their toll.

Recall that some felt that CP26 didn't need no stinking practices, preseason games or early season games because they wanted to save his legs for later on in the season. So here we are at mid-season, but where's CP26? Oh yeah, he's up there in the big jacuzzi in Dan's office -- smoking cigars and telling lies with the Big Boyz.

Same goes with AH92 -- who signed a record contract for obscene amounts of guaranteed money, but couldn't be bothered to show up in anywhere near game condition. Think it finally pissed him off that he was drawing numerous guffaws for looking like a beached whale sucking wind on those few early occasions he did play -- and is only just lately starting to live up to his hype. But where's he now? Oh yeah, sitting in the big jacuzzi with Danny and the Boyz too.

And so it goes on down the line... (whoops, what line?)

Spent the better part of pre-season trying to decide who would be the third string quarterback, despite having no qualified first or second stringer. And at the end of the competition -- no one won.

Spent the better part of the early season trying to gel the team and get it used to playing together and maybe even win a few easy games against the league patsies. But instead were exposed for being the frauds they are -- and again no one won.

Dumbed down a play book to the point where its now written in red and blue crayolas.. and still our so called QB doesn't know how to read it... or execute it... or much of anything else for that matter... and naturally, no one won.

And from the few bright sparks in this otherwise lost season?

"Losing can be contagious. You can see it," rookie defensive end/strong-side linebacker Brian Orakpo said.

Not exactly a losing attitude (yet), but getting there. A few more weeks should do it.

Posted by: Vic1 | November 10, 2009 3:33 PM | Report abuse

Trade Laron Landry for a 2nd and 5th. Draft a Tackle with the first pick, Another tackle in the 2nd and a RB. In the 4th pick up a Quality OLB. With the 2 picks in the 5th Round draft another FS and a DT. In the 7th round take another LB or Guard.

Posted by: GreatOne1 | November 10, 2009 3:34 PM | Report abuse

As I see it, Skins will most likely be picking 6th. This is a place where we can add a quality starter. Honestly if the best OL is gone, do we reach for the second best one or draft a QB, or a game changing RB. Tough choices up ahead.

Posted by: FedorEm | November 10, 2009 3:35 PM | Report abuse

As I see it, Skins will most likely be picking 6th. This is a place where we can add a quality starter. Honestly if the best OL is gone, do we reach for the second best one or draft a QB, or a game changing RB. Tough choices up ahead.

Posted by: FedorEm | November 10, 2009 3:36 PM | Report abuse

It's funny how, whenever one of our players gets hurt or is under performing, the person in line to replace them "is not the long term answer", mostly because of age and mediocre skills. Great job building depth Vinny. Just amazing!

We are two - three years away, if we're lucky.

Posted by: edvar | November 10, 2009 3:45 PM | Report abuse

Cut Portis now.

That will put an end all of Clintons, practice, training, coaching, fellow player, fan, and medical issues.

Posted by: dashriprock | November 10, 2009 3:49 PM | Report abuse

Cut Portis now.

That will put an end all of Clintons, practice, training, coaching, fellow player, fan, and medical issues.

Posted by: dashriprock | November 10, 2009 3:50 PM | Report abuse

I love all your mocks -- filling all the holes in one year! It's a Christmas miracle!

Here's my mock:

Over the next three years, the Skins are rebuilding. In the first 3 rounds, they need to find 2 OTs, 1 QB, 1 RB, 1 WR, 2 LBs, 1 DB, and 1 DT. The rest they can fill in FA or get lucky in later rounds.

In my opinion, you take the best of any of those position rather than reaching for need -- hell, we're gonna suck next year anyway. But I'd prefer to save the QB/RB for last. Use 2010 to rebuild the line, 2011 to restock the defense, and 2012 to find the QB and RB.

Then you've got your rookie QB playing behind an experienced line. In 2013, you're competitive again. If the Skins get lucky (meaning they hire a real GM who finds starters after round two), you can accelerate this process.

But let's not pretend there's a recipe for this team to make the playoffs next year. It's time to rebuild, not reload.

Posted by: diesel_skins_ | November 10, 2009 3:53 PM | Report abuse

I love all your mocks -- filling all the holes in one year! It's a Christmas miracle!

Here's my mock:

Over the next three years, the Skins are rebuilding. In the first 3 rounds, they need to find 2 OTs, 1 QB, 1 RB, 1 WR, 2 LBs, 1 DB, and 1 DT. The rest they can fill in FA or get lucky in later rounds.

In my opinion, you take the best of any of those position rather than reaching for need -- hell, we're gonna suck next year anyway. But I'd prefer to save the QB/RB for last. Use 2010 to rebuild the line, 2011 to restock the defense, and 2012 to find the QB and RB.

Then you've got your rookie QB playing behind an experienced line. In 2013, you're competitive again. If the Skins get lucky (meaning they hire a real GM who finds starters after round two), you can accelerate this process.

But let's not pretend there's a recipe for this team to make the playoffs next year. It's time to rebuild, not reload.

Posted by: diesel_skins_ | November 10, 2009 3:53 PM | Report abuse

I love all your mocks -- filling all the holes in one year! It's a Christmas miracle!

Here's my mock:

Over the next three years, the Skins are rebuilding. In the first 3 rounds, they need to find 2 OTs, 1 QB, 1 RB, 1 WR, 2 LBs, 1 DB, and 1 DT. The rest they can fill in FA or get lucky in later rounds.

In my opinion, you take the best of any of those position rather than reaching for need -- hell, we're gonna suck next year anyway. But I'd prefer to save the QB/RB for last. Use 2010 to rebuild the line, 2011 to restock the defense, and 2012 to find the QB and RB.

Then you've got your rookie QB playing behind an experienced line. In 2013, you're competitive again. If the Skins get lucky (meaning they hire a real GM who finds starters after round two), you can accelerate this process.

But let's not pretend there's a recipe for this team to make the playoffs next year. It's time to rebuild, not reload.

Posted by: diesel_skins_ | November 10, 2009 3:53 PM | Report abuse

Okay, bulk replies time...

to "The Jury" Part 1: Betts was "better" Sunday because he hasn't been pummelled behind this line. Give him 2-3 games and see what his numbers look like. He's 2 years older than Portis...he's NOT an answer beyond the end of THIS year, needs to go JUST as badly thereafter and needs to take Cartright with him.


The Jury Part 2: "That is not enough picks. Anyways, I would use all the picks on OL and running back. Posted by: TheJury | November 10, 2009 2:46 PM".

Then you will be building a team in a position to lose games 42-34-ish....and an exciting loss sucks just as hard as a blowout.

You should also address QB, CB, and ILB (Fletcher won't last forever). Otherwise you only tip the "vinny Cerrato teeter totter draft method" the other direction.

Balance, bro, balance.


"My draft looks like this. Trade round high 1 pick for lower round 1 pick and second rounder. Trade two 2nd rounders for late first rounder. Posted by: zcezcest1 | November 10, 2009 2:46 PM"

"Your draft" looks like 2K or Madden.

IRL, you'd be BLESSED to get a 3rd or 4th to go with your 1st round trade down. Snyder (and god forbid...Cerrato) has/have NO goodwill with other front offices, and as such will receive the bare minimum in return for any trades. We've seen this for years.

You might (with skill and a little luck) end up with something similar to:

[Player suggestions predicated on F/A starting or backup QB signing]

1 [from Trade B, via trade A] OL [LT]
2 CB
2 [from Trade A] OL [T-either side]
3 [From Trade C via trade B] CB
4 ILB
5 RB
6 [From trade B] CB
6 [From Trade C] OL [Utility]
7 S
7 [From Trade C] Whatever looks good

and even THAT is generous/optomistic.

There will still be some F/A patching needed, but that general idea patches the BIG holes, if even 30% of them pan out.

Then the team can focus on stopping the smaller leaks, and bailing the water.


"Yes but Mr. Snyder would charge them for it plus no pitchforks or torches because they might poke somebody in the eye. Posted by: sfskin | November 10, 2009 2:52 PM"

Close...Snyder would begin selling team licensed foam pitchforks ($19.99) and torches ($14.99) and further alter the stadium rules to allow ONLY those pitchforks and torches onto the stadium property.

I'm frankly amazed he hasn't started selling team licensed brown paper bags to disgruntled fans for $9.99 a pop...yet.

Aaaaannnnnnnnd, I'm out...

Posted by: ThinkingMan | November 10, 2009 3:58 PM | Report abuse

Let's see: add RB to list of needs.

O-line: check, check, check, check
QB: check
WR: check, check
RB: check
CB: check (2?), check
S: check
Punt Returner: check

Just need 3 more first round picks, 2 seconds and 4 thirds.

Yep, they can fix things with this draft.

Posted by: SteveMG | November 10, 2009 4:56 PM | Report abuse

here is what we have to do:

trade Cooley for draft picks.

He is the only guy on the team with value and a contract that other teams could actually take on.

We have to get picks some how.

Posted by: wittercr | November 10, 2009 5:01 PM | Report abuse

PLEASE PLEASE OH PLEASE HIRE A GM..its looking like we can get the number one.. the season is very easily forgotten ( and thats sayin a bunch) if someone at the wheel has a plan and knows what they are doing.. PLEASE PLEASE OH PLEASE HIRE A GM please.

Posted by: cboyhater | November 10, 2009 5:19 PM | Report abuse

Here is the way i go since the skins have a strong shot at finishing 2-14 that means they are selecting top 5 from the draft, now if i can trade up and get more picks say 1,2,3, for my five pick this way you have first round goes to offensive tackle someone like either okung or williams of okalhoma 2pick goes to sergio Render the other second round goes to Jimmy clauson third round pick goes rich lapham 4thround pick goes to running back either graig cooper or javarris james fifth starting center with size say 6-3 315to 6-4 320 something like that 7th round try to steal a corner or safety.

Posted by: rmnkevorkian | November 10, 2009 7:08 PM | Report abuse

Dump Portis. Run Portis all you want after he recoveres from his concussion. For next year, let Betts carry the ball & get a young back in the draft in the second round. As for Betts' age - just remember he hasn't been carrying the ball 300+ for the last 9 years. So he might be over thirty, but may still be pretty fresh. Of course pretty stupid to give guaranteed money, but to be expected with this organization.

Posted by: notamullethead | November 10, 2009 9:28 PM | Report abuse

Get Portis the F*** off this team.. no this squad.. before I puke! I do not dare eat before or during a game! Was the most OVERRATED back in NFC easily!!

Posted by: iubiquity | November 10, 2009 9:33 PM | Report abuse

notice you dont hear "hybrid"wc offense this year.whatever anyone thinks of portis this year,this whole offense has been built around portis.when the skins won last year,portis was the reason.now zorn has taken away his touches,and he is not playing good at all.unless this team is turned over,with a new focus,this is what we got.this team will do as good as portis does,and that aint good.the less he plays,the worse this team will be.

Posted by: DLESMonday | November 10, 2009 10:10 PM | Report abuse

In all fairness to Portis ---- Portis pockets straight. Kapow!

Posted by: chop1 | November 10, 2009 11:54 PM | Report abuse

Yeah, yeah... I hear ya.

Man, it would be nice if Betts could pass protect even HALF as well as Portis, though.

I cannot remember even ONCE when Portis allowed a rusher to get to any of our QBs.

That said, some have already started calling him Clinton Tortoise.

Posted by: Thinker_ | November 11, 2009 1:02 AM | Report abuse

Maybe he'd take a pay cut to just hang out at the park as Sheriff Gongetya or Southeast Jerome.

I miss the good ol' days. Actually, maybe that's just what the Skins need on the sideline...

Clinton Tortoise, the washed up Redskin Running Back.

Clinton could make that work... play up the whole "concussion effects."

Sideline reporter... the ex-player turned analyst. Get me CT's agent!

Posted by: Thinker_ | November 11, 2009 1:06 AM | Report abuse

The Redskins needed to address their RB situation BEFORE the 2008 season, right after the OL, but couldn't because Portis would have goten pissy. See, Dan makes friends with some of the players.... The most mismanaged team in NFL history. Way to go, Dan. Hire a TOP GM, let the GM, not you, hire the HC, and stay out of their way! It's that easy Dan! Go from # 1 to #3, behind the GM and HC, if your ego can stand it, and we will go back to tearing up the NFL again! Notice we haven't done that since you have been here because you want to do it ANY way you can, EXCEPT for letting two guys be more important than yourself! All Redskin fans know it now, Dan!

Posted by: PinotNoir | November 11, 2009 4:16 AM | Report abuse

hAS ANYONE Thought that maybe the Danny and VC are keeping BO at LB so they can switch to the "Flavor of the month" defense (3-4) next year an are waiting for more of the right personnel. AH at nose tackle.

Posted by: boysheadcoach | November 11, 2009 8:11 AM | Report abuse

Portis's situation, however, renews immediate and long-term questions about the state of the Redskins' running game. It was clear from the start of training camp that Portis was not in top condition, according to some in the organization who requested anonymity because of Portis's high standing with management.

Some in the organization? Anonymity? Portis's high standing with management?

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Posted by: hessone | November 11, 2009 8:26 AM | Report abuse

all that non-pracitce, non-performance, guaranteed salary and a cancer in the locker room on top of it; what a great organization. let's get larry johnson, and put his locker next to portis and deangelo hall, i'm sure this team would have great chemistry. the new coach next year, if a disciplinarian, might cut all three of them (not a problem no sarly cap). if vinny is still here maybe we'll draft three more receivers next year. what a mess

Posted by: nolngeraseasontixhder | November 11, 2009 8:26 AM | Report abuse

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