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Sources Confirm Portis-Sellers Incident

Just got off the phone with multiple league sources who confirmed that running back Clinton Portis and fullback Mike Sellers had a heated verbal exchange earlier this week over Portis's frustration about Sellers's blocking this season.

No punches were thrown during the argument - which occurred Monday at Redskins Park and was first reported late Thursday night by WRC (Channel 4) sports reporter and anchor Dan Hellie - but the players had to be separated and restrained, the sources said. From what we're hearing, Sellers confronted Portis at the complex after learning Portis requested to have Sellers removed from the game during Sunday's 16-13 victory over the Tampa Bay Buccaneers at FedEx Field.

While speaking with coaches, Portis requested to have blocking tight end Todd Yoder take Sellers's place in the backfield against the Buccaneers. Apparently, Portis's frustration stemmed for the ill-fated fourth-and-goal play in the 19-14 loss to the Detroit Lions on which Sellers failed to execute his blocking assignment, Portis failed to score and Detroit took over on downs.

In a text message to a reporter, one source emphasized no punches were exchanged, and he played down the argument as players "simply letting off some steam." But the Sellers-Portis incident underscores the tension at the complex during a week in which owner Daniel Snyder hired an offensive consultant, Sherman Lewis, because of his dissatisfaction with the poor point production of Coach Jim Zorn's version of the West Coast offense, and in which defensive coordinator Greg Blache, a week after emphasizing the need for personal accountability, informed team officials he no longer would answer questions from reporters - a mandated duty under NFL rules for all coordinators.

The Redskins (2-2) face the Carolina Panthers (0-3) on Sunday at Bank of America Stadium.

By Jason Reid  |  October 9, 2009; 11:23 AM ET
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Comments

Cluster F*ck.

Posted by: Original_etrod | October 9, 2009 11:30 AM | Report abuse

FUBAR

Posted by: johnvandermyde | October 9, 2009 11:32 AM | Report abuse

I believe I posted that PFT stated this was a physical confrontation, and that both players were suspended for this game??

Posted by: BeantownGreg1 | October 9, 2009 11:34 AM | Report abuse

Titanic.

Posted by: Chia_Pet | October 9, 2009 11:34 AM | Report abuse

I would say Portis needs to know his place, but I think he does. :(

Posted by: jesuisunpizza | October 9, 2009 11:35 AM | Report abuse

sigh...what a mess...the circus is in town to stay.

Posted by: JohnDinHouston | October 9, 2009 11:35 AM | Report abuse

yes you did greg and I will tell you you had me for a sec.

Posted by: alex35332 | October 9, 2009 11:36 AM | Report abuse

... a week after emphasizing the need for personal accountability, (Blache) informed team officials he no longer would answer questions from reporters - a mandated duty under NFL rules for all coordinators.

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Contrary to what 4th believes, Greg Blache did NOT stop talking to the media because his health was being adversely affected by the pressers.

Please!

Prior to his "decision" to relinquish his media obligations, a couple of days after the loss to the Lions, Blache gave an unusually contrite, politically correct statement, taking accountability for the D's poor performance.

Any observer of human behavior could discern that Blache was being reigned in, and he has now been muzzled all together.

Incompetent, corrupt regimes rely on secrecy and spin control to get their business done.

Posted by: Chia_Pet | October 9, 2009 11:37 AM | Report abuse

I don't know the plays that portis is talking about, but if someone has seen the video of these plays could they lend their insight as to whether portis has a point on this or not....

asking the coach to take someone out of the game thats pretty....I'm not sure what....ballsy, as well as shortsighted....

Posted by: BeantownGreg1 | October 9, 2009 11:37 AM | Report abuse

Yeesh

Posted by: Gweez | October 9, 2009 11:38 AM | Report abuse

The maddness continues.

Let me know when they start handing out the brown paper bags with the slits for eyes and a mouth.

I already have the burgandy and gold sharpie I need to write in "Deadskins."

Oh well, at least there's baseball.

Posted by: MistaMoe | October 9, 2009 11:39 AM | Report abuse

"Incompetent, corrupt regimes rely on secrecy and spin control to get their business done."

Posted by: Chia_Pet | October 9, 2009 11:37 AM | Report abuse

Says the Chia King

Posted by: JohnDinHouston | October 9, 2009 11:39 AM | Report abuse

I'm sure player arguments don't happen anywhere but here.

Posted by: Flounder21 | October 9, 2009 11:39 AM | Report abuse

The answer to the poll should be #2 and #3. Trying to pin the running game problems on the RB is silly without addressing the O-line. Who cares whether they bring in Alridge or look at the kid from Tennessee, without improvement upfront they’re just chasing their tails.

Posted by: skinswest | October 9, 2009 11:28 AM | Report abuse

I completely agree that our oline is way below average....there is just no arguing that. However, I watch a lot of football, a lot, and on many other teams don't have the greatest olines either but they have backs that hit the holes given with speed and power, CP doesn't do that anymore, to describe his running as anything but plodding at this point is to exaggerate. He's reliable in pass pro, and he doesn't fumble but when you're getting 7 mil a year as a running back those shouldn't be your best qualities.

Posted by: zjfr2 | October 9, 2009 11:37 AM | Report abuse

Posted by: zjfr2 | October 9, 2009 11:39 AM | Report abuse

Sherman Williams is a rat.

Posted by: Chia_Pet | October 9, 2009 11:39 AM | Report abuse

Some feel that Blauche was offered the HC job again, but refused it. Some say that he is going to be named the HC by the bye week.

I would rather see him take over as coach by the bye week if Zorn does not make changes to get the Offense going.

You see, what Blauche did was stand up for the defense and he made changes to correct the defense for the better. Granted it was only for one game so far. Lets hope it continues.

But, what Blauche did is what Zorn has not done yet. Take the blame for his area of responsibility and made some changes to hopefully correct it.

Now, if we donot see any successful changes this week with the offense, then we may very well be headed for a HC change.

I have been hearing and reading, radio talk show hosts and guests, fans, bloggers, saying this team is a joke and that Synder dosen't have a clue and should sell the Team and that he poisons everything that comes into Redskin Park.

Yawl' got it wrong baby, there is something cooking in the Redskins kitchen and I think it smells kinda' good.

LarryInClintonMD.

Posted by: LarryInClintonMD | October 9, 2009 11:39 AM | Report abuse

I know I am going to regret this. I been on this blog for a little bit now. I keep seeing these references to "The Mayor".

I haven't been able to pin down who the The Mayor is.

Would somebody tell me what blogger is being referred to as The Mayor.

LarryInClintonMD.

Posted by: LarryInClintonMD | October 9, 2009 11:40 AM | Report abuse

Portis is right, the usually stellar Sellers has been AWFUL in short yardage situations, I've been noticing that myself.. but in a season where a lot has gone wrong, this doesn't surprise me that a coach doesn't realize the problem and two players have to come to fisticuffs to call attention to the problem...

Posted by: TDGibson | October 9, 2009 11:41 AM | Report abuse

Sherwin Williams is paint

Posted by: JohnDinHouston | October 9, 2009 11:41 AM | Report abuse

beantown

"I don't know the plays that portis is talking about,..."


Portis is like the guy who doesn't realize that he can't perform like he used to.

So what does he do?: he slaps his woman and blames her for his 'problem' not realizing his body is the one not working right.

Posted by: MistaMoe | October 9, 2009 11:42 AM | Report abuse

Who is Sherman Williams? Did we hire another freaking Sherman......

Posted by: zjfr2 | October 9, 2009 11:42 AM | Report abuse

I will say this in Clinton's defense. Sellers dropped a sure touchdown pass already this season and this wasn't the first block he missed on. It's a shame that CP has to hold the player accountable for doing his job, when on successful teams the coach does this. It makes you wonder why Clinton would even say this if he thought Zorn was holding his players accountable for their mistakes... BTW, didn't CP rail against his offensive line last year, and then they started playing much better? Part of this is Portis, but it makes me wonder who is being held accountable on this team... and by whom?

Posted by: RedSkinHead | October 9, 2009 11:42 AM | Report abuse

This team is dysfunctional. It will always be so, so long as Snyder is at the helm. Little brat.

Posted by: nadeemsx | October 9, 2009 11:43 AM | Report abuse

Get used to it, things have only begun to fall apart. The drama & distraction will get worse. Maybe Campbell will finally speak his mind.

Posted by: nonsensical2001 | October 9, 2009 11:43 AM | Report abuse

Anything to light a fire under these guys... I bet Sellers takes care of business Sunday, coming off this shabingus.

If it takes Portis to call out someone on the team -- regardless how awkward or inappropriate or whatever -- so be it. (To cite one of several people in key positions to affect the behavior of this team, Zorn doesn't seem like much of a motivator.)

As I recall, Portis more or less called out the entire O line early last year and they magically started run-blocking better... it's not pretty, but in his inimitable fashion, CP is a leader.

Posted by: NateinthePDX | October 9, 2009 11:44 AM | Report abuse

I forgot to watch the start of the UFL last night. Lets hope the skins are watching it for some possible OL/RB replacements.

I for one will care more when they put a team in the DC area. When will these startup leagues learn that Vegas and LA are not football cities, a startup league that focuses on Ohio, Texas, the Northeast and Florida would make it work, not the west coast.

Posted by: alex35332 | October 9, 2009 11:44 AM | Report abuse

The Mayor is the self-given name of JLC Jr.

Posted by: TDGibson | October 9, 2009 11:44 AM | Report abuse

Greg,Portis talked about Sellers missed blocking assingment last week in Steinberg's blog.

Here's the relevent material:

He said Sellers bounced outside instead of going inside, and when Portis went inside, that apparently foiled the play.
"If me and Mike both go downhill, then you've got one person trying to stop me and Mike Sellers," Portis said. "Impossible, if you ask me. But running sideways, Mike bounced out, I went in and the guy made a play. That should be a walk-in touchdown."
But Portis added that Sellers played a great game, that he wasn't trying to throw him under the bus, and that 15 or 20 plays decided this game, not just one.


It will be interesting to see how Snyder reacts to this (i.e., will he pressure the coaches to sit Sellers?).

Posted by: Alan4 | October 9, 2009 11:46 AM | Report abuse

Mr. Reid self annointed himself The Mayor when he took over from JLaC - it's cool.

Posted by: JohnDinHouston | October 9, 2009 11:46 AM | Report abuse

"During the offseason, the Redskins determined the offensive line was the team's weakest unit and largely responsible for last season's 2-6 collapse."--RI Last Thread

But of course,which is why they spent 150 million on defense and added only a retread and a fat guy to the Oline. In redskins world, up is down, black is white, right is wrong and Dan Snyder is a great owner.

By the way I got Sellers and the unders of less than two rounds for a KO.

Posted by: TheCork | October 9, 2009 11:48 AM | Report abuse

It will be interesting to see how Snyder reacts to this (i.e., will he pressure the coaches to sit Sellers?).


Posted by: Alan4 | October 9, 2009 11:46 AM |

They will handle it like every other team, when these things happen every week.

They will do nothing.

Posted by: Flounder21 | October 9, 2009 11:48 AM | Report abuse

From the Times:

Linebacker Rocky McIntosh isn't on the field and Glenn Pakulak is punting for Hunter Smith as the Redskins hold their final practice of the week.

McIntosh's absence is unexplained sp far but is likely for personal reasons.

Pakulak, signed Tuesday, seems likely to fill in for the injured Smith Sunday at Carolina. If that's the case, Pakulak will have to be promoted from the practice squad and the Redskins would have to cut someone.

The chief candidates are reserve running backs Marcus Mason and Anthony Alridge, backup offensive linemen D'Anthony Batiste and Edwin Williams and rookie linebacker Robert Henson.

The Redskins could also place the ailing Anthony Montgomery on injured reserve, but that would end the defensive tackle's season.


Big props to 4th for breaking this story earlier today.

Posted by: BeantownGreg1 | October 9, 2009 11:49 AM | Report abuse

Is this the new Melrose Place?

Posted by: chasgiffen | October 9, 2009 11:49 AM | Report abuse

They will handle it like every other team, when these things happen every week.

They will do nothing.

Posted by: Flounder21 | October 9, 2009 11:48 AM

That may be true, but it's worth asking... since every other team's RB isn't considered a close confidante of its very hands-on owner.

Posted by: Alan4 | October 9, 2009 11:51 AM | Report abuse

I believe I posted that PFT stated this was a physical confrontation, and that both players were suspended for this game??

Posted by: BeantownGreg1

Yeah yeah, Boy who cried wolf. You are turning into the board equivalent of one of the azzhole Boston drivers who not only doesn't stop to help you change your flat tire, but flips you off as he passes. For what reason, I have no clue, but I'm guessing PFT urinated in your Bosco.

Posted by: TheCork | October 9, 2009 11:51 AM | Report abuse

The Andria Doria...

Posted by: matthewrayman | October 9, 2009 11:53 AM | Report abuse

I don't know the plays that portis is talking about, but if someone has seen the video of these plays could they lend their insight as to whether portis has a point on this or not....

asking the coach to take someone out of the game thats pretty....I'm not sure what....ballsy, as well as shortsighted....

Posted by: BeantownGreg1 | October 9, 2009 11:37 AM |

BeanTown,

It has been reported that Sellars has been playing hurt, and yes it was replayed showing Sellars actually did not block properly into the goal line, but instead flopped outside, thus allowing Portis to be tackled on the fated goal line play in the Detroit game.

I think they say it is a hamstring injury that does not allow him to get the leverage/strength he needs to block properly.

Not scoring on that goal line play pretty much sealed the outcome of the game for Detroit and Portis probably feels that Sellars is not blocking as he should and should not be in the game.

That is so ironic, when Portis has played hurt time after time, but I don't think Sellars lobbied to have him benched.

Another indication of starters playing hurt.

LarryInClintonMD.

Posted by: LarryInClintonMD | October 9, 2009 11:53 AM | Report abuse

The wheels are coming off this sinking ship! I guess the Vinny and Danny Comedy Show is coming to a close! Bye and good-riddance!

Posted by: 1of9000 | October 9, 2009 11:53 AM | Report abuse

Incompetent, corrupt regimes rely on secrecy and spin control to get their business done.

Posted by: Chia_Pet

That gay male hooker who was admitted to and called upon at press conferences by the Bush administration says you are wrong, that never happens.

Posted by: TheCork | October 9, 2009 11:54 AM | Report abuse

Ay yi yi!

Posted by: chrislarry | October 9, 2009 11:56 AM | Report abuse

Sellars gets a new contract and plays like crap. Sounds about right for the Washington Redskins.

Posted by: chaos47 | October 9, 2009 11:57 AM | Report abuse

We got Sherwin Williams because his motto is "Ask Sherwin Williams!"

Posted by: 1of9000 | October 9, 2009 11:57 AM | Report abuse

The wheels are coming off this sinking ship!

Posted by: 1of9000
___________________

Is that # 1 of 9000 mixed metaphors coming our way? Excellente!

Posted by: chasgiffen | October 9, 2009 11:57 AM | Report abuse

Incompetent, corrupt regimes rely on secrecy and spin control to get their business done.

Posted by: Chia_Pet

So do competent corrupt regimes

Posted by: alex35332 | October 9, 2009 11:58 AM | Report abuse

I'm sure player arguments don't happen anywhere but here.

Posted by: Flounder21 | October 9, 2009 11:39 AM

More dependable than death, taxes and Zorn noting improvements and a "need to focus" is Flounder popping up after bad news to put a positive spin on it.

Posted by: TheCork | October 9, 2009 11:58 AM | Report abuse

Wish? Did someboday sat wish?

Pakulaka-high, laka-hiney ho….
Pakulaka-high, laka Johnny ho!

I wish COACHES would call out players when they underperform, so that the team as a whole does not play so freakin SOFT!!!

Posted by: dlhaze1 | October 9, 2009 12:00 PM | Report abuse

Ok, i can see where people will rag-out CPo for this kind of stuff.

...but in knowing your asset, you work w/ it.

I ask you this: In his analysis of the situation, was he wrong?

Posted by: DikShuttle | October 9, 2009 12:00 PM | Report abuse

Portis is the problem. Lets start finger pointing. Yeah, sellers might have missed a block, but how about Portis break a freakin tackle and make a play.

Posted by: Redskins001 | October 9, 2009 12:00 PM | Report abuse

So we're all seeing the same thing in our crystal ball, right?

We get beat soundly by Carolina
Squeak by KC
Then get blown out by Philly

Bye week comes, Zorn is gone, Blache is HC, Gray is DC and Lewis is OC

yadda yadda yadda

we end up 4-12


Posted by: jgarrisn | October 9, 2009 12:02 PM | Report abuse

Is Glenn Pakulak related to Burt Pakulak?

What the world needs now
is love, sweet love.

Posted by: Original_etrod | October 9, 2009 12:04 PM | Report abuse

5 hours til 3 day weekend

Posted by: dlhaze1 | October 9, 2009 12:05 PM | Report abuse

More dependable than death, taxes and Zorn noting improvements and a "need to focus" is Flounder popping up after bad news to put a positive spin on it.

Posted by: TheCork | October 9, 2009 11:58 AM |

And even more dependable then that is Cork popping up to cry and whine about the team like a little school girl.

Posted by: Flounder21 | October 9, 2009 12:06 PM | Report abuse

I agree with flounder. Because really, when you don't think about it, everything is awesome!

Posted by: mack1 | October 9, 2009 12:07 PM | Report abuse

F-ing joke time...

What a bunch of damn assclowns.

All they're missing is the big nose, the pointy f'ing hat, and the long ass feet.

Posted by: RedDMV | October 9, 2009 12:07 PM | Report abuse

F-ing joke time...

What a bunch of damn assclowns.

All they're missing is the big nose, the pointy f'ing hat, and the long ass feet.

Posted by: RedDMV | October 9, 2009 12:07 PM | Report abuse


If I had an assclown, I would not want him to wear a pointy hat.

Posted by: Original_etrod | October 9, 2009 12:10 PM | Report abuse

This is a non-issue, we used argue from time to time in the locker room on our football back in the day. Its part of football. It happens on every football, basketball, baseball, hockey, etc. team. The only issue here is that there's a snitch on the team talking to outsiders, and that needs be "taken care of", ahem addressed, pronto.

Posted by: clark202 | October 9, 2009 12:10 PM | Report abuse

I agree with flounder. Because really, when you don't think about it, everything is awesome!

Posted by: mack1 | October 9, 2009 12:07 PM |

Maybe you should check again I didn't say everything was awesome.

I just don't make a big deal out of players fighting it happens at every level of sports.

Posted by: Flounder21 | October 9, 2009 12:11 PM | Report abuse

jgarrisn

I think you have nailed it.The odds of Zorn still being the HC by midnight on October 27th have to be something less than 20%.

Next Year:

GM = Bruce Allen

HC = Jon Gruden

We need some less balanced, less "medium" football guys who may not be much fun to take out to dinner but have actually won something this decade to run this team.

Posted by: hapster | October 9, 2009 12:12 PM | Report abuse

"Sources Confirm Portis-Sellers Incident"

And as the azzhole football dude playoff continues, the winner will face Oakland Raiders' Coach Tom Cable in a pay-per-view event sponsored by Kanye West, Taylor Swift, and Don King.

Posted by: MistaMoe | October 9, 2009 12:12 PM | Report abuse

Anybody remember what happened when Norv got fired and Robiskie promoted.

Posted by: Redskins001 | October 9, 2009 12:12 PM | Report abuse

I know we say this every Sunday, but this game is friggin huge. There's a chance that this team could respond really well from the mishegoss that this week has been and stomps the cancers or they fold like lawn chairs and the whole thing unravels.

I for one, predict a resounding victory and a brilliant campaign deep into the playoffs, nay, the Superbowl. F Dallas HHTR

Posted by: SkinsInSichuan | October 9, 2009 12:13 PM | Report abuse

I love Mike Sellers BUT I've watched the 4th and goal play several times and someone screwed up. Portis SHOULD have scored there.

Not to mention Mike's dropped TD pass in the Rams game.

We would not be in this predicament if we had several more TDs this season - which were right THERE in several games.

Posted by: Lisa_R | October 9, 2009 12:14 PM | Report abuse

Man after reading this I have serious concerns about Portis' intelligence. I mean I could understand picking a fight with just about anyone else on the team, but Sellers? Portis is no slouch of course but Sellers would freaking eat him for breakfast.

Posted by: RambleOn | October 9, 2009 12:15 PM | Report abuse

what a MISHEGOSS! ahhh Redskins, at least some of you were lucid during the glory years. Im 25 which means Rypien is a distant memory. I was practically weaned on Norv Turner. Will I ever venture to the promised land, or merely glimpse it from the mountaintop?

Posted by: SkinsInSichuan | October 9, 2009 12:15 PM | Report abuse

flounder21

"I just don't make a big deal out of players fighting it happens at every level of sports..."

Whereas I agree with you, the former coach in me would pull them both aside and say, "Hey, things are bad now for us all."

"Don't make'm worse, ya idiots, take your beef somewhere else!"

Plus, if a guy who's loved by the owner and seen as a leader calls out another guy, doesn't that make him a cancer?

It does in my locker room.

Posted by: MistaMoe | October 9, 2009 12:17 PM | Report abuse

Caveman Sellers would break Portis in half and then eat each half with some hot sauce.

Posted by: SkinsDiesel | October 9, 2009 12:18 PM | Report abuse

I saw that replay several times on the 4th & 1 versus the Lions & against the Rams. Instead of Mike Sellers using his big body to crush the defender and open the holes for Portis, Sellers went outside each time and block AIR. Seems like he does not want to open holes & block like a Fullback is supposed to do. So Portis does have the right to complain and be frustrated at Mike SOFT Sellers..

Posted by: maspika | October 9, 2009 12:20 PM | Report abuse

mista,

We don't know what was said to them, maybe they were told to stop being jackaZZ's with all this other sh_t going on.

Posted by: Flounder21 | October 9, 2009 12:21 PM | Report abuse

He called out his Fullback..... I am not a geniuos or something but he has 5-6 other guys called lineman that block to. I don't see them bulldozing holes. He decides to go after the 6-3 290 pound maniac. Sellers should have Westbrooked him on the practice squad. I think the only reason he did not do it was because Portis is connected from the U... you know what happens then ??? This team is a nightmare and utter joke. Snyder, Cerrato, Zorn, the water bo yand the strength and conditioning coach have lost this team!

Posted by: rvanags | October 9, 2009 12:21 PM | Report abuse

Mishegoss - New team nickname, works very, very well - Rolls off the tongue even.

The Washington Mishegoss

Posted by: JohnDinHouston | October 9, 2009 12:22 PM | Report abuse

"Caveman Sellers would break Portis in half and then eat each half with some hot sauce.."


I get the humor.

But what's funny is that this all comes on the eve of a game where the panthers are like circling buzzards looking for an easy kill.

It's funny now.

But if the skins get waxed Sunday, the 'incident' will look like another nail in the coffin of the 2009 season.

Posted by: MistaMoe | October 9, 2009 12:22 PM | Report abuse

Ok, i can see where people will rag-out CPo for this kind of stuff.

...but in knowing your asset, you work w/ it.

I ask you this: In his analysis of the situation, was he wrong?

Posted by: DikShuttle | October 9, 2009 12:00 PM | Report abuse
=========================================
Actually he wasn't, but people shouldn't blow this out of proportion. Running/Tailbacks will always be finicky, about blocking especially when its coming from the fullback or whomever the lead block is assigned. Fullbacks, H-backs, or lead blockers take serious pride in their ability to block, so they're going to be sensitive to anyone questioning or calling their blocks or missed blocks out. Its part of football. Emmit Smith got into it from time to time with Moose, Riggins would get into it from time to time with Clint Didier or Keith Griffin, it just happens. For those who have played organized football, this is no shocking lead story or bulletin.

Posted by: clark202 | October 9, 2009 12:23 PM | Report abuse

flounder21

"We don't know what was said to them, maybe they were told to stop being jackaZZ's with all this other sh_t going on."


And the flaw in this whole thread.

There's no confirmed outcome by the Mayor.

It reads like gossip about a schoolyard fight.

It's gonna go on all day.

Watch.

Posted by: MistaMoe | October 9, 2009 12:25 PM | Report abuse

Who the hell does Blache think he is? Your owner gave you a 1st round pick and the best tackle in football and your defense is not playing to its potential. It still has the same problems as last year and still does not pressure the qb. And you decide to stop talking to the media which is a JOB REQUIREMENT. The leage should simply fine him $10k and double it each week, and if he decides to be a child and do the interviews and just not talk, then he gets fined anyway. In addition Jim Zorn, Vinny, and Danny should all get equal fines each week since he works for them.

Posted by: dbrine1261 | October 9, 2009 12:28 PM | Report abuse

Coaching is the problem...

The Skins players are displaying a lack of discipline that results in a failure to execute. The coaches are not utilizing the players to the best of their abilities and instead trying to make them fit into a rigid scheme. And as a result -- the Skins are losing the time of possession, run too few offensive plays, and cannot score.

...Zorn has said: The scheme is fine and the problem is the players are failing to execute the plays. This may be true, however the coaches are not making the offensive adjustments necessary to succeed this year and they are not instilling a level of disciple necessary to properly execute the called plays.

If Campbell cannot make an accurate throw in a three step drop, then either devise new plays (e.g. roll outs/shot gun) for him or bring in someone new (Garcia?) who can execute the scheme.

If Sellars is hurt and cannot effectively block, then the coaches should have taken him out of the game. Portis was correct to be upset -- that missed TD could have cost the Skins the game.

These are the types of mistakes that will result in a losses against a better opponents.

Posted by: siris | October 9, 2009 12:29 PM | Report abuse

Good job. You keep quoting un-named league sources for your stories and you will be up for a promotion like your boy got this year.....

Never mind if this kind of thing goes on all the time and probably had nothing to do with a consultant and more to do with players trying to make plays..... But that angle doesn't sound as good.... I guess. Bravo to you sir, you are on your way!!!!

HTTR!!!!

Posted by: punchdaclock | October 9, 2009 12:31 PM | Report abuse

hmmm...Redskins front office must be on their lunch break

Posted by: JohnDinHouston | October 9, 2009 12:32 PM | Report abuse

I don't even view this team like is a football team anymore. I wonder if the players have cubical at Redskins Park. So, Sellers didn't fill the paper tray after he ran his report and Clinton just HATES when that happens and talked to the receptionist behind his back. Sellers over hears this at the water cooler and gets in Clintons grill. I’m sure, the new secret spy they hired saw the whole thing and is talking to Danny right now about the old paper try policy and the need to institute a new one.

Posted by: manbrute | October 9, 2009 12:32 PM | Report abuse

I agree with Portis. What good does a 265 lb fullback do if he doesn't know where he's going? Lettin Sellers carry the ball at the goal line is also a mistake, he runs too high and is fumble prone. Sellers = not good in Red Zone. Portis should have confronted him about it personally, not talk behind his back, that was a mistake.

Posted by: VegasJim | October 9, 2009 12:32 PM | Report abuse

As for Sellers and Portis, if Portis went to practice maybe the two could build some on field repoir instead of each one hoping the other is where they expect them to be. And Sellers has been over hyped for several years. he fumbles every 8-10 times he touches the ball for his carreer. He is best used as a short yardage end zone receiver where his size can block out defenders but he can't turn the ball over. If he was any good HE would be running it in on the goal line.

I am guessing the argument was more about going behind his back to the coaches than anything else. Fact is thaty Portis would have gotten in the end zone in any other year, block or not. He is used up.

Posted by: dbrine1261 | October 9, 2009 12:33 PM | Report abuse

Mayor,
You forgot to report that two players were name calling and another two were throwing dirt on each other. So what two players got into an argument, who cares????

Posted by: kts38 | October 9, 2009 12:34 PM | Report abuse

I am missing Portis' point about that play in particular. If Sellers decides to break outside because he sees the middle too clogged to ram through, where does Portis get off cutting back inside???

You stay behind your 275 FB until he escorts you into the endzone!! Portis shouldn't have been looking at anything but that giant 45 on the jersey in front of him the whole way!!!

Portis' refusal to workout during the preseason usually translates to him turning it on around game 4 after he gets his "game legs" back. If this continues to be true we are going to be OK... until he breaks down around week 12.

Posted by: mrlowery1 | October 9, 2009 12:35 PM | Report abuse

Sellers, should have done the whole team, one big favor, and opened up a full can of whoopass on Portis.

Posted by: dashriprock | October 9, 2009 12:35 PM | Report abuse

I completely agree that our oline is way below average....there is just no arguing that. However, I watch a lot of football, a lot, and on many other teams don't have the greatest olines either but they have backs that hit the holes given with speed and power, CP doesn't do that anymore, to describe his running as anything but plodding at this point is to exaggerate. He's reliable in pass pro, and he doesn't fumble but when you're getting 7 mil a year as a running back those shouldn't be your best qualities.

Posted by: zjfr2 | October 9, 2009 11:37 AM | Report abuse

Posted by: zjfr2 | October 9, 2009 11:39 AM

Which is why I thought the answer to the poll should be 2 and 3. Portis' best days seem to be behind him but with better o-line play he should be decent this year. For how long this season and beyond, who knows?

Posted by: skinswest | October 9, 2009 12:36 PM | Report abuse

At least the Sellers/Portis thing was at Redskins Park and not the game sidelines. I was halfway wondering whether someone would blow up during the TB game considering the way they've been playing. The team seems like a powder keg waiting for a spark.

Posted by: skinswest | October 9, 2009 12:39 PM | Report abuse

Anybody remember what happened when Norv got fired and Robiskie promoted.

Posted by: Redskins001 | October 9, 2009 12:12 PM

They made a run in the playoffs? Which was followed by a decade of shrewd player acquisitions, stable coaching and a couple of Super Bowls? Or was that another team?

Posted by: mack1 | October 9, 2009 12:39 PM | Report abuse

Get heated on the FIELD!!!!

Posted by: dc4life | October 9, 2009 12:44 PM | Report abuse

Anybody remember what happened when Norv got fired and Robiskie promoted.

Posted by: Redskins001 | October 9, 2009 12:12 PM

I was wondering; was this like, a rhetorical question?

Posted by: JohnDinHouston | October 9, 2009 12:44 PM | Report abuse

If Portis was complaining about not getting enough yards due to the offensive line, then he might not even get "positive" yards now with no Fullback blocking. I would love to see a running back with -100 yards rushing as a stat! Maybe he can be the first to have consecutive negative yard weeks!

Posted by: JohnWWW | October 9, 2009 12:47 PM | Report abuse

MistaMoe, tu es drole.

Some kind of a spark is needed on this team. Sometimes a fight will do that. As someone said above, the whole "medium" thing is ruinous. Anger or rage is good in the NFL. Zorn does not breathe fire; Blache would. I don't know if it would help turn things around, but that is the kind of head coach that is needed. The intellectual, offensive genius type rarely succeeds. There has to be an element of fear or at least fear of disappointing the HC.

Posted by: rgj21 | October 9, 2009 12:50 PM | Report abuse

Contrary to what 4th believes, Greg Blache did NOT stop talking to the media because his health was being adversely affected by the pressers.

Please!

Prior to his "decision" to relinquish his media obligations, a couple of days after the loss to the Lions, Blache gave an unusually contrite, politically correct statement, taking accountability for the D's poor performance.

Any observer of human behavior could discern that Blache was being reigned in, and he has now been muzzled all together.

Incompetent, corrupt regimes rely on secrecy and spin control to get their business done.

Posted by: Chia_Pet | October 9, 2009 11:37 AM

Chia...That ain't Blache's style. There's no one there to muzzle him. He bemoans talking to the media. And all of them have been running around with their heads cut off since Sherman Lewis came in.

This may have been a long standing request. But I can assure you those beat guys prob gave him atleast an ulcer..

Posted by: 4thFloor | October 9, 2009 12:52 PM | Report abuse

It's like bad soap opera around here. What a joke of a franchise.

Posted by: tundey | October 9, 2009 12:53 PM | Report abuse

thing is too much media _ players long ago were able to say 'man he can't play a fig or c'mon man get with it' NOW people have turned a hit mouth sport into some kind of politically correct format. I know if you didn't play well back in the day your replacement just had to show up and you were sent to bench. you want victories hit, hit hard and be real rough - no hurt feelings. the coach had one job make sure everybody was ready to fight - he can't do that one thing be gone (NOW)

Posted by: aypub | October 9, 2009 12:53 PM | Report abuse

thing is too much media _ players long ago were able to say 'man he can't play a fig or c'mon man get with it' NOW people have turned a hit mouth sport into some kind of politically correct format. I know if you didn't play well back in the day your replacement just had to show up and you were sent to bench. you want victories hit, hit hard and be real rough - no hurt feelings. the coach had one job make sure everybody was ready to fight - he can't do that one thing be gone (NOW)

Posted by: aypub | October 9, 2009 12:53 PM | Report abuse

Blache will retire at the end of the year, I don't think there can be any doubt about that.

Sellers/Portis: that stuff happens, but the timing couldn't be worse. Portis really is not worth the trouble anymore. If you feel Sellers isn't putting out, why not go talk to him before sounding off to the coach?

This team is in all likelihood headed for two possible outcomes in Carolina: one is a decisive loss, because they are in chaos. The other is their best showing, as they rally.

Who knows.

Posted by: shaunsherman12 | October 9, 2009 12:53 PM | Report abuse

I like Mike Sellers, but I do understand CP's frustration because on that goal line play in Detroit, Mike Sellers ran wide without putting a hat on anyone. I was like WTF? But that is not the 1st block he has missed this year. With that said they need to get on the same page, because both are pro bowlers if they get things going like last year.

Posted by: gcoles32 | October 9, 2009 12:54 PM | Report abuse

thing is too much media _ players long ago were able to say 'man he can't play a fig or c'mon man get with it' NOW people have turned a hit mouth sport into some kind of politically correct format. I know if you didn't play well back in the day your replacement just had to show up and you were sent to bench. you want victories hit, hit hard and be real rough - no hurt feelings. the coach had one job, make sure everybody was ready to fight - he can't do that one thing be gone (NOW)

Posted by: aypub | October 9, 2009 12:54 PM | Report abuse

As long as Danny owns the club, this is what we will get. He should be forced to sell. How? Everyone stop going to the games and stop buying parahenalia.

Posted by: democratus | October 9, 2009 12:55 PM | Report abuse

The only way Snyder keeps the fans from a full revolt is to fire Zorn and name Joe Bugel interim head coach. Everyone still loves Joe and will rally around him enough to get through the year. John Gruden is the perfect HC next year, west coast offense already in place. But, JC is not the quarterback to run it. Joe Bugel will be smart enought to replace JC with Todd Collins after the Philadelphia masacre, and Gruden would get his QB of choice next year.

Posted by: kenlana | October 9, 2009 12:57 PM | Report abuse

This team is in all likelihood headed for two possible outcomes in Carolina:

Yea we either Win or Lose...

Posted by: jcnjcnj | October 9, 2009 12:57 PM | Report abuse

fantastic stuff. just great. you couldn't make it up cause no one would believe you. just delicious. i think the skins will win 5 games at most. then the off season will begin again and the money will flow like a drunk in a bar on payday. and there will be a kind of drunken, booze filled optimism that next year will be different and this time they really DO have it figured out. ha ha ha

Posted by: funkey | October 9, 2009 12:59 PM | Report abuse

steve smith brutally attacked a teammate last season.

Posted by: MonkMossMann | October 9, 2009 1:01 PM | Report abuse

And now the unwinding starts. I can't believe that I look forward to each season with so much hope-only to see it steamrolled 4 games in to the season.

Posted by: djorl | October 9, 2009 1:02 PM | Report abuse

Im sure this stuff happens all the time among teams. Why WaPo insists on making things bigger than they are is beyond me.

With Portis as a team captain and all the preaching about accountability and missed assignments, Portis has to step up if Sellers aint pulling his weight.

Sellers showed some pride in getting pissed about it and thats all it sounds like it was.

Posted by: CheyenneWY | October 9, 2009 1:02 PM | Report abuse

hello...we're improving guys.

also, i'm using the skins on Madden and i'm struggling...i'm looking for a flea flicker/hook-n-ladder/statue of liberty play in the playbook...i know its a sure TD just like jimmy zorn says...where is it?????

Posted by: carsonspence | October 9, 2009 1:02 PM | Report abuse

Portis is really in no position to criticize. Only thing that seems to run well on him is his mouth. Overrated.

Posted by: loux24 | October 9, 2009 1:03 PM | Report abuse

I think this incident will prove to be a positive on the field. I can see Sellers going out and mowing dudes over with CP finally having some room to run. I think more players should be calling each other out. It's up to the players to police themselves since it doesn't appear to be happening from the coaching staff. By the way, can someone please get Carlos Rogers some new hands?? he should be working on catching hard passes 24/7. Come on Carlos! when are you gonna get a a grip?? literally!

Posted by: ralston21 | October 9, 2009 1:04 PM | Report abuse

one job a coach has; to make sure the players are ready period.

players are supposed to call each other out except the coachs should have already done that.

you are never assured victory but you can at least be prepared!

Posted by: aypub | October 9, 2009 1:06 PM | Report abuse

Im glad somebody told Sellers about himself. Ever since he went to the pro bowl and got paid before the season he hasnt been the same. Maybe playing angry will help him out because whatever he has been doing so far this season is not working.

Posted by: KingJoffeJoffer | October 9, 2009 1:07 PM | Report abuse

I crushed Portis for missing the fourth down play. I dont know enough about football to recognize when someone misses an "assignment"

I agree in that I think this will make the team better. Its just frustration; thats a long way away from a team imploding.

We are 2 - 2 right now and getting better. Scored a couple of TDs in each of the last two games and are still moving the ball pretty well. I think the Red Zone efficiency will imporve and the Defense is starting to get their swagger back.

All this jibba jabba about the FO being responsible for Portis Vs. Sellers is ridiculous. Its two competitors being competitive. I wish it happened more often...but at the same time it will be reported as an almost malay that is foreshadowing the complete destruction of the season.

Posted by: CheyenneWY | October 9, 2009 1:12 PM | Report abuse

Who cares about thir little weak ass yelling match?

Who cares about who shouldn't have said, or who it benefits?

They both suck and blow at the same time.

Next.

Posted by: RedDMV | October 9, 2009 1:12 PM | Report abuse

"We are 2 - 2 right now and getting better." Bwah ha ha ha - just priceless...

Posted by: funkey | October 9, 2009 1:13 PM | Report abuse

Beantown:

Here is the play.

4th and goal from the one. Detroit has 8 in the box, as Zorn is expected to call the same tendency play - Portis off left tackle. Left tackle blocks inside crushing his man and open a good sized hole over our left guard. Dockery pulls and makes a mediocre block on the linebacker and defensive end, going down on his kness in the process and creating a 3 man impasse. Sellers runs toward his block (evidently to hit one of the people Dockery didnt dispose of), and passes to the left of the pile of 3, running by and not hitting anybody. Meanwhile, Portis has taken the ball, and without noticing or cutting back into the good sized hole to the inside, runs directly into the 3 man roadblock. Result: no gain, no touchdown, ball turns over.

Culprits:

1. Zorn for calling the same tendency play he had previously called in that situation.

2. Sellers for totally missing his block.

3. Portis for not cutting back into the available hole and dealing with what he had, rather than what he wanted it to be.

Posted by: northvajim1 | October 9, 2009 1:14 PM | Report abuse

"We are 2 - 2 right now and getting better."

Opium is the get high of choice in the northern great plains, right?

This team is a reflection of it's coach: Medium on their best day, sorry pathetic ass mf'ers on others.

Posted by: RedDMV | October 9, 2009 1:16 PM | Report abuse

Wait, I thought Jason Campbell was the reason we didn't score that TD in the Lions game.

Posted by: psps23 | October 9, 2009 1:16 PM | Report abuse

This scuffle should have happened two minutes before game time. I kind of like the idea of a two pro-bowlers going into a game with some anger to vent. Still, maybe a little bit of that fire will carry over. I would like to know what Sellers said in return - probably something about how Portis fakes injuries and no longer has the speed to get to the outside. That would have hurt...

Picture Sherm Lewis whispering in Sellers ear just before game time, "Take it easy out there like you've done all season, Mike. We've got Yoder warming up in the bullpen."

Posted by: RedSkinHead | October 9, 2009 1:17 PM | Report abuse

Siris, Oh Siris,

That would be a Hole In One, A Grand Salami, A Buzzer Beater, A Hail Mary.

You hit it. A great summation.

LarryInClintonMD.

Posted by: LarryInClintonMD | October 9, 2009 1:19 PM | Report abuse

Wait, I thought Jason Campbell was the reason we didn't score that TD in the Lions game.

Posted by: psps23

And I thought Campbell's three interceptions and two fumbles in the Tampa Bay game were all Malcolm Kelly's fault.

Posted by: RedSkinHead | October 9, 2009 1:19 PM | Report abuse

Last time Portis did this, he ripped off five straight hundred yard games.

Get angry, big Mike.

Posted by: psps23 | October 9, 2009 1:20 PM | Report abuse

I don't see how anyone else other than Buges could be elevated to HC during this season if it happened, which it won't.....

PSPS - JC never gets bashed on Fridays. That's his designated 'Day of Rest'. The bashing will commence @ 4:!5pm Sunday.....

Posted by: 4thFloor | October 9, 2009 1:20 PM | Report abuse

Did anyone see on NFL.com the interview Cooley gave about the Bucs game? In that interview Cooley said that JC, Tana, CP & Cooley got together before the begining of the 2nd half and said that the 4 of them had to win the game for the team.
Think about that.
JC played a lot better, Cooley got a TD, Santana got a TD and CP ran like his old self.
Notice they did have the Oline, Sellers, or the young WR's involved.
That's a problem when 4 out of 11 feel they don't trust the other 7 to have their back.

Posted by: priceisright | October 9, 2009 1:21 PM | Report abuse

So long Sellars, been nice having you.

Posted by: Veretax | October 9, 2009 1:21 PM | Report abuse

"With Portis as a team captain and all the preaching about accountability and missed assignments, Portis has to step up if Sellers aint pulling his weight."

How does a guy who hardly practices get to be a captain?

Clinton Portis is to the redskins like Fred Taylor was to the jaguars.

They let their guy go deciding to go with youth and speed in Maurice Jones-Drew.

It's time the skins make the same choice.

CJ Spiller anyone?

Posted by: MistaMoe | October 9, 2009 1:23 PM | Report abuse

Actually glad to hear this. It shows the players at least care. A fist fight would have been better though.

Posted by: Jason10 | October 9, 2009 1:23 PM | Report abuse

Good wake-up call by Portis.

The Danny (thankfully) opens his wallet and players (frustratingly) forget why they earned it.

Sellers should face the fact that Portis has a point. Fans see it and Portis feels it.

Shut up and block, Sellers.

Posted by: clandestinetomcat | October 9, 2009 1:24 PM | Report abuse

When you read the press and fan reactions to the redskins each year if you did not know any better you would think they are a 5-11, 4-12 3-13 team every year. Nothing but negative articles have been written about them for a month. They are 2-2 folks, not 0-4. But I understand, they are the washington redskins so they should always be 4-0 or at least 3-1 or they are deemed failures before mid season. Yes, lets blow up the team and fire the coach before mid season.

Posted by: ged0386 | October 9, 2009 1:24 PM | Report abuse

JC played a lot better, Cooley got a TD, Santana got a TD and CP ran like his old self.
Notice they did have the Oline, Sellers, or the young WR's involved.
That's a problem when 4 out of 11 feel they don't trust the other 7 to have their back.

Posted by: priceisright

Those four ARE the playmakers. Would have been nice if the ones left out would have inserted themselves (haha he said inserted) into the conversation and take control. The Oline needs to get together and make the decision that they will not accept being mediocre.

Posted by: CheyenneWY | October 9, 2009 1:25 PM | Report abuse

CJ Spiller anyone?


Posted by: MistaMoe | October 9, 2009 1:23 PM | Report abuse

If he falls to the second round then yeah I'm all for it. We need a first round tackle. C'mon Russel Okung or Trent Wiliams!!

Posted by: PAskinsfan17 | October 9, 2009 1:27 PM | Report abuse

ged0386,

Amen...Amen

Most folks could have a 45lb Virgina Ham uner their arm and they would cry because the have no bread.

Posted by: CheyenneWY | October 9, 2009 1:28 PM | Report abuse

With Portis as a team captain and all the preaching about accountability and missed assignments, Portis has to step up if Sellers aint pulling his weight.

-------

No, he is NOT a captain, which speaks volumes given his tenure with the team and his importance to its success.

Sellers IS a captain. Though I agree he has not played well, neither has much of the offense. Portis has a very bad habit of blaming everyone around him for his shortcomings, and never looking at himself.

I think he is symbolic of the kind of dsyfunction we see with this team year after year.

Posted by: shaunsherman12 | October 9, 2009 1:31 PM | Report abuse

"Shut up and block, Sellers."

Some of us felt Sellars should not have been resigned and stated so well before he got his new deal.

Teams have too easy a cue for redskins' running plays where Sellars lead blocks for Portis as Zorn never scripts any play-action iso-pass plays or counter action off the fullback lead.

In today's NFL, a fullback is a luxury: quick, who blocks for Adrian Petersen?

Like I said.

Posted by: MistaMoe | October 9, 2009 1:32 PM | Report abuse

So we're all seeing the same thing in our crystal ball, right?

We get beat soundly by Carolina
Squeak by KC
Then get blown out by Philly

Bye week comes, Zorn is gone, Blache is HC, Gray is DC and Lewis is OC

yadda yadda yadda

we end up 4-12


Posted by: jgarrisn


Here is what happens,
We squeak by carolnina, fans trash the team for not scoring enough points again,
Media predicts that if they dont beat KC zorn will be fired, They beat KC go to 4-2, Fans once again start making bold predictions in anticipation of the eagles game. Skins lose to Eagles fans turn back against them, Media then returns to predicting Zorn will be fired if he loses the next two games. Skins split the next two games to go 5-4. Fans and media predict Zorn being fired and Campbell benched. Zorn is not fired, Campbell is not benched, the skins end up 9-7, make the playoffs, win one game but lose the next playoff game. Zorn gets fired in the off season and JC gets released. Snyder then starts to make moves to have a shot at Colt McCoy in the draft. Does not get him and Bill Cower still will not come to the redskins. Snyder hires Jon Gruden. And it starts all over again.

Posted by: ged0386 | October 9, 2009 1:38 PM | Report abuse

much ado over nothing, I'd say, no punch's thrown, no reason to make this into something its not...lets hope that they both get pissed off and take it out on the panthers.

guys fight, teammates fight, it happens...on EVERY team....

Posted by: BeantownGreg1 | October 9, 2009 1:39 PM | Report abuse

Moe,

Pretty sure Hedgecock blocks for those backs up 95 and they've been top 5 in rushing for a while.

AP is a freak of nature. Landry is just a freak.

Posted by: Yoder-lay-hee-who | October 9, 2009 1:42 PM | Report abuse

Sunday is going to be another f-ing disaster

Posted by: BrooklynSkins | October 9, 2009 1:45 PM | Report abuse

From J. Reid's chat today:

"Jason Reid: With all the distractions around here, guys pointing fingers and the head coach apparently on borrowed time, I don't know if the Redskins will win again this season. And I'm not kidding."

Discuss

Posted by: JohnDinHouston | October 9, 2009 1:45 PM | Report abuse

all of these statements on these post will seem kind of idiotic if they win on sunday. But like a bad weatherman most of you will move on to the next rant without acknowledging how wrong you were about your post leading up to gameday.

Posted by: ged0386 | October 9, 2009 1:45 PM | Report abuse

If your fullback beats up your prima donna, washed-up tailback...and injures him in the process...does his God awful cap number still count against you? If not, can someone please tell Sellers that Clinton was making fun of his orange goatee? Or...instead of risking an injury to Sellers' punching hand, maybe we should send word to Michael Westbrook that Portis called him the same name Stephen Davis did.

Please, please, please let the mythical uncapped year happen so we can dump this has-been cancer. Did anybody else experience Champ Bailey envy watching him thwart the Bovine Cartel at every turn Sunday night?

Posted by: MColeman51 | October 9, 2009 1:46 PM | Report abuse

someone probably mentioned this already, but Blache didn't talk to the media for at least one entire season under double-g williams, he hates it. Nothing new.

Posted by: RomoShortball | October 9, 2009 1:46 PM | Report abuse

If we were 3 - 1 would they have even posted this story?

We were one bad flag away from being 3 - 1. Which is where we should be considering the Week 1 loss to the Ginas.

JC17 gave the ball away four times and we held on for a win. Booton line is we aint the prettiest girl at the dance, but at least were dancing

Posted by: CheyenneWY | October 9, 2009 1:47 PM | Report abuse

It's happening on the other side of the ball in Charlotte. Beason talks openly on Primetime with the Packman Show (podcast on WFNZ website)about Peppers after seeing Jared Allen play Monday night. During the offseason all the Panther fans were saying how much better Peppers is than Allen. Their D may be a little more charged up this weekend.

Posted by: clt_skins | October 9, 2009 1:47 PM | Report abuse

The Mayor sounds like he's really reached a breaking point with this team - in his chat, he just basically says, this team is going nowhere, it's the beginning of the end with Zorn and no one knows why the 'Skins do what they do.

Posted by: JohnDinHouston | October 9, 2009 1:48 PM | Report abuse

This has got to be the most pathetic week of NFL games I have seen in a while...

Skins - Panthers: an October-style pitcher's duel

Bills - Browns: I'd rather kill myself

Texans - Cardinals: the MLB Cardinals are more interesting, especially with Matt Holliday dropping fly balls that almost hit him in the ballz...

Giants - Raiders: ...zzz....

Tampa - Philadelphia: here's hoping the Bucs put up a good fight so that we look less pathetic...

Cowboys - Chiefs: F Dallas...

Steelers - Lions: next.

Seahawks - Jaguars: actually interesting, in that I'd would like to see Jim Mora, Jr. shoot Olindo Mare the next time he misses a FG...

Colts - Titans: prediction...Peyton Manning throws for 300+ yards and 2 TD's...like clockwork. Kerry Collins sports the stubble of a homeless man...(changing channel)...

Patriots - Broncos: Champ Bailey receives 15-yard personal foul late in 4th quarter for glaring at Tom Brady, Danny Boy style...

MNF: Jets - Dolphins: is anyone else already tired of the Wildcat?

Posted by: mattylight | October 9, 2009 1:49 PM | Report abuse

"We need a first round tackle. C'mon Russel Okung or Trent Wiliams!!"

Okung plays for Oklahoma State.

And the only player they got that I like is the suspended receiver Dez Bryant.

And that's what so sad about the failures--alleged and otherwise--about the '08 rookie receiving class: the team has now hamstrung itself with guys (Kelly/Thomas) it's committed to prove are quality.

And that's why Mitchell can't get on the field: the team wants to arrogantly prove Kelly is a playmaker who doesn't have his thumb up his playbook.

And as for Thomas, well, about him the doubting continues.

And the data so far indicates their reps are as inflated as a Thanksgiving Day balloon.

"Sellars-Portis have an incident" when the real issue is the lack of contributions from the young'ns who've failed to live up to their draft status.

And because of commits to them, when a game-changing wide receiver type player comes along, we can't take'em.

After Okung or Spiller or Locker, I'd take Bryant later in the draft--and kiss the '08 class good-bye.

Posted by: MistaMoe | October 9, 2009 1:49 PM | Report abuse

Please, please, please let the mythical uncapped year happen so we can dump this has-been cancer.

MColeman51

The village called...they miss you.

Cancer?

Posted by: CheyenneWY | October 9, 2009 1:50 PM | Report abuse

Here is what happens,
We squeak by carolnina, fans trash the team for not scoring enough points again,
Media predicts that if they dont beat KC zorn will be fired, They beat KC go to 4-2, Fans once again start making bold predictions in anticipation of the eagles game. Skins lose to Eagles fans turn back against them, Media then returns to predicting Zorn will be fired if he loses the next two games. Skins split the next two games to go 5-4. Fans and media predict Zorn being fired and Campbell benched. Zorn is not fired, Campbell is not benched, the skins end up 9-7, make the playoffs, win one game but lose the next playoff game. Zorn gets fired in the off season and JC gets released. Snyder then starts to make moves to have a shot at Colt McCoy in the draft. Does not get him and Bill Cower still will not come to the redskins. Snyder hires Jon Gruden. And it starts all over again.

Posted by: ged0386 | October 9, 2009 1:38 PM | Report abuse

Then we draft Jevon Snead and he becomes Patrick Ramsey part 2 electric bugaloo. He beans 3 refs in one game crushing the high score set by JC. We give Gruden 2 years then we cut gruden and bring in another coach to try to help with Snead. Maenwhile Chris Samuels retires and is replaced by my dead grandmothers corpse tied to a blocking sled and clinton portis still gains 4 yards a carry even though his wheelchair has had a flat tire since week 8. We end the seaosn at 8-8 and continue our search for a "franchise" QB even though we won 3 superbowls without a "franchise" QB.

Posted by: PAskinsfan17 | October 9, 2009 1:50 PM | Report abuse

Did somebody liken Portis to Adrian Peterson? Please come back to Planet Earth.

Portis is a distraction. These days, the guy gets way more attention for his mouth than his on-field performance.

Should be traded while there is value.

Posted by: loux24 | October 9, 2009 1:52 PM | Report abuse

I don't know if you all watched the game but Portis was right. Sellers didn't block on the opening drive of the lions game Cooley fell Clinton Portis was tackled by the guy Sellers was supposed to be blocking. at the end of the play the only guy standing was Sellers. Then Sellers drops a wide open touchdown pass. He signed the contract then played like some garbage. He needs to practice harder and learn how to execute his blocks I do agree. He hasn't blocked good all season but there other teammates that are also guilty (Offensive line)

Posted by: BOOK0000 | October 9, 2009 1:52 PM | Report abuse

"Jason Reid: With all the distractions around here, guys pointing fingers and the head coach apparently on borrowed time, I don't know if the Redskins will win again this season. And I'm not kidding."

Discuss

Posted by: JohnDinHouston | October 9, 2009 1:45 PM | Report abuse

OAK and KC are still on the schedule.

So I'll go with at the minimum they get 1 more win.

Posted by: PortisPocketsStr8 | October 9, 2009 1:54 PM | Report abuse

There are lots of teams worse that the Skins... Seems like we play one every week.

Posted by: VegasJim | October 9, 2009 1:55 PM | Report abuse

CheyenneWY,
It would have been nice...
I'm just saying, we need 11 playmakers not 4.
The fight sounds encouraging. It means the job means something to at least one of the parties involved, hopefully that will spread to the whole team (caring about winning and executing, not fighting that is)

Posted by: priceisright | October 9, 2009 1:56 PM | Report abuse

from RI:

"Apparently, Portis's frustration stemmed for the ill-fated fourth-and-goal play in the 19-14 loss to the Detroit Lions on which Sellers failed to execute his blocking assignment, Portis failed to score and Detroit took over on downs."

Sellers is disgruntled about being underpaid, especially when he sees all the $$$ that Port-o-let is getting. He tried to get the FO to freshen his contract and they declined. What do you expect?

Posted by: BiggerVance | October 9, 2009 1:57 PM | Report abuse

"Jason Reid: With all the distractions around here, guys pointing fingers and the head coach apparently on borrowed time, I don't know if the Redskins will win again this season. And I'm not kidding."

Discuss

Posted by: JohnDinHouston


What a foot-dragging mouth breather.

Posted by: CheyenneWY | October 9, 2009 1:57 PM | Report abuse

In today's NFL, a fullback is a luxury: quick, who blocks for Adrian Petersen?

Like I said.


Posted by: MistaMoe |

1. When was the last time Portis was confused with Adrian Petersen?

2. In answer to your question, pulling guards. The redskins, who use almost exclusively zone blocking, have no one leading the back into the hole, unless a Fullback does. So, who is supposed to pick up the inevitable linebacker or safety who fills at the point of attack?

Like I said

Posted by: TheCork | October 9, 2009 1:59 PM | Report abuse

Did somebody liken Portis to Adrian Peterson? Please come back to Planet Earth.

Posted by: loux24 | October 9, 2009 1:52 PM | Report abuse

Of course AP is better at this point in his carrier.

Let me know when he has matched CP's total production. Then you can start with the comparisons.

Posted by: PortisPocketsStr8 | October 9, 2009 1:59 PM | Report abuse

Lucky Sellers was restrained because Portis would have landed on IR. On another notr though, how we don't call pitch plays outside for Portis? In Portis's defense, he is not an off tackle runner, he needs open space to see the field. When he was succesful in Denver he was used on draws and pitch plays and ran wide most times.

Posted by: joeboggs | October 9, 2009 2:00 PM | Report abuse

It's funny, but none of the shananigans upset me at all. This team is and has been the laughing stock of the league.

Until Snyder realizes he will never win without having a strong front office starting with a respectable GM, we're the idiots for getting all hyped up that we might have a winning team.

I expected a lot more from our defense this year, and thought about past teams like the Ravens and Tampa that have gone a long way with a defense led team....but it wasn't to be.

HTTR - let's hire a damn GM.

Posted by: isnadd | October 9, 2009 2:02 PM | Report abuse

from RI:

"Apparently, Portis's frustration stemmed for the ill-fated fourth-and-goal play in the 19-14 loss to the Detroit Lions on which Sellers failed to execute his blocking assignment, Portis failed to score and Detroit took over on downs."

Sellers is disgruntled about being underpaid, especially when he sees all the $$$ that Port-o-let is getting. He tried to get the FO to freshen his contract and they declined. What do you expect?

Posted by: BiggerVance | October 9, 2009 1:57 PM | Report abuse

??
Sellers restructed a very good deal, for a mediocore fullback before we played the rams. How did he reward the organization with that restructure, and more money? He dropped an EZ td pass.
What I am trying to say is, you're retarted.

Posted by: BMACattack | October 9, 2009 2:03 PM | Report abuse

Cancer?

Posted by: CheyenneWY

Yeah, cancer. Running to the coaches to get a teammate yanked from a game? The same coach you derisively called "a genius" on a radio show during his first year on the job? He's not in shape, doesn't like to play pre-season games, has a ready-made list of excuses for sitting out of practice, and generally never misses a chance to make an arse of himself. In the ultimate team game...that qualifies you as "a cancer".

Posted by: MColeman51 | October 9, 2009 2:05 PM | Report abuse

He tried to get the FO to freshen his contract and they declined. What do you expect?

Actually they didn't decline, good effort though...

check out the bog, good review of the team by merrill hoge..

Posted by: BeantownGreg1 | October 9, 2009 2:07 PM | Report abuse

thecork


"1. When was the last time Portis was confused with Adrian Petersen?"


Bro', you need to get on something other than phonics.

I wasn't saying they were the same guy.

I was saying the days of the fullback lead play are over.

That's why this summer I posted that the team shouldn't re-sign Sellars--he's a luxury.

And as for the 'zone-play': that's the only play Portis runs well, and without the speed to make the 'jump-cut' to daylight, he's a shell of his former self.

Betts and Mason follow pulling guards and tackles better than Portis.

They practice and can't get on the field.

Portis doesn't practice, but does.

Explain that: that is, if you can read.

Posted by: MistaMoe | October 9, 2009 2:11 PM | Report abuse

MIKE SELLERS HAS BEEN PLAYING LIKE A STIFF!!! If you watch that 4th dwn.play Sellers touches no one, to be sure CP missed the hole and the O-lINE played like krap for the majority of that game but Sellers since he signed an extension has done zilch,nada,zero, say what you want about CP but he plays and runs hard and blocks like a demon,Sellars not so much.

Posted by: dargregmag | October 9, 2009 2:11 PM | Report abuse

I'll say this much. Portis has always been a good blocker and rarely misses assignments. If he's noticing Sellers screwing up, I don't blame him for trying to get him out the game. Zorn sure as heck ain't going to do it and probably doesn't even notice what's going on half the time. He's always staring at his awful playcall sheet. Somebody has to hold players accountable, and even though Portis has slowed considerably, there's more then wear and tear that's holding him back. Next he should try having Heyer and Rabach taken out of games. lol

Posted by: ga8085 | October 9, 2009 2:12 PM | Report abuse

Here comes the train wreck. The team loses to Carolina, wins against KC, and then gets demolished by the Eagles. Zorn gets canned right after the Eagles game. Snyder is so eager to do it that he is on the sideline with Vinny in the fourth quarter pacing. Sherman Smith resigns in frustration. Greg Blache is named interim head coach. Jerry Gray takes over as defensive coordinator and Sherman Lewis takes over as offensive coordinator. Marcus Mason is named the new starting running back citing CP has too many injuries to practice and therefore cannot play. ARE is moved back to number two receiver, with DT moving to the slot. MK becomes the situational receiver for short yardage and goal line packages. Marko Mitchell becomes the number four receiver. The team mixes it up well with two tight end packages, four wide receiver packages, three wide receiver bunch formations, but no gadget plays. The team manages to finish the season at 8-8. Blache retires. Mike Shanahan becomes the new head coach and the house-cleaning begins. The team drafts offensive linemen and running backs in the draft. Colt Brennan is named the starting QB. The first year under Shanahan, the team finishes a solid 10-6 and makes it to the NFC championship.

Posted by: RedSkinHead | October 9, 2009 2:12 PM | Report abuse

Well CP has been tipping to the line of scrimmage for 3 1/2 games. He didn't hit the line with agression until the second half of last week's game. On the goal line play in which the entire Lions defense knew where it was going: To the left, left, left, Lions was in the backfield. The right guard got blew up in the hole, Sellers tried to block the down the line since the hole was closed off. Samuels tried to block the back persuit and did a wiff, Portis was stopped before he took a full step towards the goal line.
Result:
1)Bad play calling
2)More Defensive players at the point of attack = no gain.
3)a QB sneak would have work, but Jason Campbell is not allowed to audible when the offense is in the RED-ZONE.

Portis need to chill, because until he show that "Break-A-Away" speed that we have all been waiting for. He's just a good NFL back with blocking that can't make anyone miss when he has broken into the 2nd level of the defense. Portis runs until he falls down from a ankle tackle or up his own O-Lines backs.

I just wish Clinto Portis would start running to daylight instead of just doing what he's been doing: Complaining, Backstabbing and bull shyting a owner who is dumber than a brick!

Posted by: butche106 | October 9, 2009 2:14 PM | Report abuse

well, if the 'skins can't play good football maybe they can be a good replacement for days of our lives....

Posted by: atidwell | October 9, 2009 2:14 PM | Report abuse

Peterson has one of the best lead blockers in the game in Jim Kleinsasser. He's listed as a TE, but he lines up much of his snaps in the backfield just above Peterson.

LT had Lorenzo Neal during his prime.

Shaun Alexander had Mack Strong.

And CP had Sellars.

The only real dominant rushers I can remember of recent times that didn't run with a lead blocker were Edgerrin James in Indy and Marshall Faulk in St. Louis. And Faulk was half man, half receiver. James operated out of the stretch run offense, where Peyton made it nearly impossible to detect the run vs. playaction, never allowing the defense to fully commit to the run until James was a good 2 steps ahead of the defense.

Posted by: psps23 | October 9, 2009 2:15 PM | Report abuse

Colt Brennan is named the starting QB. The first year under Shanahan, the team finishes a solid 10-6 and makes it to the NFC championship.
Posted by: RedSkinHead | October 9, 2009 2:12 PM | Report abuse

Umm, after all that ridiculous speculation, I'm calling to have you removed from this blog.

Posted by: ga8085 | October 9, 2009 2:16 PM | Report abuse

Bot bad RedSkinHead

The only thing I say is wrong is that Shanahan will go to (F) Dallas before Washington.

Everyone knows he has a man-crush on Romo.

Posted by: CheyenneWY | October 9, 2009 2:17 PM | Report abuse

check out the bog, good review of the team by merrill hoge..

Posted by: BeantownGreg1 | October 9, 2009 2:07 PM | Report abuse

Good call. Jim Zorn has got to find a way to game plan to the strengths of the team.

Right now he is trying to make his players fit to his scheme and not the other way around.

Posted by: PortisPocketsStr8 | October 9, 2009 2:18 PM | Report abuse

The wheels are coming off this sinking ship! I guess the Vinny and Danny Comedy Show is coming to a close! Bye and good-riddance!

++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

How many metaphors can you mix at once?

Posted by: atidwell | October 9, 2009 2:20 PM | Report abuse

Be of good cheer, all: I predict that the Wizards will win 50 games this year, and make it to the conference semis...

Posted by: keithward64 | October 9, 2009 2:21 PM | Report abuse

Sellers restructed a very good deal, for a mediocore fullback before we played the rams. How did he reward the organization with that restructure, and more money? He dropped an EZ td pass.
What I am trying to say is, you're retarted.

Posted by: BMACattack | October 9, 2009 2:03 PM |

You call a $500,000 signing bonus a restructure? In the world of Port-o-let that is chump change. I would drop a TD pass too if that was all that moneybags Snyder could cough up.

Posted by: BiggerVance | October 9, 2009 2:22 PM | Report abuse

We have all seen Office Space and we know what happens when the consultants are brought in. The Sherms will not be happy about this. "Umm Yeah what exactly do you two [Portis/Sellers] do here"!!

Posted by: gawnpostal | October 9, 2009 2:22 PM | Report abuse

CAPS will win the Stanley Cup!

book it

Posted by: CheyenneWY | October 9, 2009 2:22 PM | Report abuse

ga8085, agreed... if Portis gets all the people missing blocking assignments taken out of the game, the offense will look more like a basketball team than a football team.

Criticize Portis if you want, but he's a gamer. Just like Riggins was a gamer.

Zorn pulled Jon Jansen out like a bad tooth. I really thought Zorn was really going to exercise the hook on his underperforming players.

Posted by: Alan4 | October 9, 2009 2:25 PM | Report abuse

We have all seen Office Space and we know what happens when the consultants are brought in. The Sherms will not be happy about this. "Umm Yeah what exactly do you two [Portis/Sellers] do here"!!
Posted by: gawnpostal | October 9, 2009 2:22 PM

Portis does seem like the management type. It’s very refreshing how he calls things like he sees them. This guy is ready!

Posted by: dlhaze1 | October 9, 2009 2:25 PM | Report abuse

This, among other things is why the passing game is struggling:

Specifically, Hoge said the Bucs--once famous for the Tampa-2 zone--were running man concept stuff in their secondary for the majority of the game. He said the Redskins were countering with pass routes that would be most effective against zone schemes. He cited one 3rd-and-10 play in which the Skins ran three curl independent curl routes.

"Man, you're never gonna win a curl route against man, ever," Hoge said. "Give 'em an option route. Stack your receivers. Run them across the field. You just can't run zone concept stuff and think you're gonna win [those battles]. You're not."

Thats on JZ to figure out....

Posted by: BeantownGreg1 | October 9, 2009 2:26 PM | Report abuse

"Just watch the Tampa game. They did nothing to help their guys. The quarterback has nowhere to throw the ball, so then he gets sacked and looks like an idiot." - Merrill Hoge

...sounds like less blame on JC17, more on Zorn...

Posted by: mattylight | October 9, 2009 2:26 PM | Report abuse

Explain that: that is, if you can read.

Posted by: MistaMoe | October 9, 2009 2:11 PM |

Take a break. Go see a movie. Work out in the gym. Play a game of chess. Tell someone a joke. Compliment someone on what a good job they are doing. Smile and be happy.

Posted by: BiggerVance | October 9, 2009 2:26 PM | Report abuse

is there any new news for this is getting a it old ,Then again this team is a bit old as well

Posted by: joevick | October 9, 2009 2:27 PM | Report abuse

From J. Reid's chat today:

"Jason Reid: With all the distractions around here, guys pointing fingers and the head coach apparently on borrowed time, I don't know if the Redskins will win again this season. And I'm not kidding."

Discuss

Posted by: JohnDinHouston | October 9, 2009 1:45 PM

And ChRis LaRRy calls it a Wind Mill? GTF outta here.

Posted by: 4thFloor | October 9, 2009 2:28 PM | Report abuse

Anyone know why Snoop Dog carries an umbrella everywhere he goes?

...For drizzle!

Posted by: CheyenneWY | October 9, 2009 2:28 PM | Report abuse

I like FullBacks (and I can not lie....) butt here are some pretty good RBS without'em:

Riggins/Riggs/Byner!

Oh yeah....glory years...its all i got!

(cue psp's 31 paragraph treatise on how Don Warren was essentially the FB...)

Posted by: chrislarry | October 9, 2009 2:29 PM | Report abuse

He really hasn't been as good this year.
Sellers got his new contract and I guess he doesn't have to block anymore.

Posted by: jmy999 | October 9, 2009 2:29 PM | Report abuse

So there you have it! You heard it from me FIRST! Clinton Portis will be our new head coach and assistant GM!

Posted by: cmecyclist | October 9, 2009 2:30 PM | Report abuse

Stop falling for this nonsense! The Skins just aren't that good and we know (up for debate) the cause of the problems. O-Line, coaching, etc. But to make a big deal about a RB's arguing with his fullback is is ridiculous. What's the insider going to report next, a QB yelled at his O-line or WRs. Give me some real stuff and stop making a big deal out of nothing.

Posted by: dcwun | October 9, 2009 2:30 PM | Report abuse

Portis is the problem. Lets start finger pointing. Yeah, sellers might have missed a block, but how about Portis break a freakin tackle and make a play.

Posted by: Redskins001 | October 9, 2009 12:00 PM


It must seem so easy to break tackles from your couch playing madden. Reality is no running back on earth is going to have much success running the ball when their lead blockers blow their assignment and allow a linebacker to run untouched into the backfield, not AP, not Brandon Jacobs, not Michael Turner, not anyone. Remember, most "small" NFL caliber linebackers outweight Portis by 20-30 lbs.

Posted by: ecale25 | October 9, 2009 2:30 PM | Report abuse

You call a $500,000 signing bonus a restructure? In the world of Port-o-let that is chump change. I would drop a TD pass too if that was all that moneybags Snyder could cough up.

Posted by: BiggerVance | October 9, 2009 2:22 PM | Report abuse

He is a fullback how much should he be paid? Its not like he is one of the premiere fullbacks in the league. They did him a solid and he needs to return the favor.

Posted by: KingJoffeJoffer | October 9, 2009 2:31 PM | Report abuse

I think one of Portis' biggest problem is he is not looking over his shoulder at the young BRs. he has too much job security and therefore is OK with missing practice and pre-season and as such.

Zorn has to show him that he is replaceable and give the young studs a shot at the title.

Posted by: CheyenneWY | October 9, 2009 2:33 PM | Report abuse

"CAPS will win the Stanley Cup!

book it

Posted by: CheyenneWY

BOOKED!

(Although last nights take the lead and instantly give it away in the 4th quarter was not heartening...)

Posted by: chrislarry | October 9, 2009 2:34 PM | Report abuse

The Kool-Aid has turned into hot dog flavored water

Posted by: CheyenneWY | October 9, 2009 2:34 PM | Report abuse

I think one of Portis' biggest problem is he is not looking over his shoulder at the young BRs. he has too much job security and therefore is OK with missing practice and pre-season and as such.

Zorn has to show him that he is replaceable and give the young studs a shot at the title.

Posted by: CheyenneWY

What young Stud would that be? Didn't know we had one behind Portis.

Posted by: dcwun | October 9, 2009 2:36 PM | Report abuse

Cmon ChrisLarry,

I had not watched the game yet. I recorded it. Now instead of watching the game and relaxing with my thoughts, I will be forced to spend time talking with my wife about life and whatnot.

Thanks a bunch! jk

Posted by: CheyenneWY | October 9, 2009 2:37 PM | Report abuse

Portis ain't Barry Sanders. He (and few do) doesn't have the ability to break tackles in the backfield and make a big gain out of it. Disturbing piece by Hoge there. Means that the talent is pretty much being wasted by an idiot head coach. So what's new?

Posted by: ga8085 | October 9, 2009 2:37 PM | Report abuse

Where's Bobby Beatheard?

Posted by: joeboggs | October 9, 2009 2:37 PM | Report abuse

I smell a players only meeting on both offense and defense...get some of the older cats on both sides up there...PDaniels/Fletch take the defense, and Samuels takes the offense...tear em up one side, down the other....break em down then build them up...

Posted by: BeantownGreg1 | October 9, 2009 2:37 PM | Report abuse

um 3rd period...what a tart i am...

Posted by: chrislarry | October 9, 2009 2:37 PM | Report abuse

What young Stud would that be? Didn't know we had one behind Portis.

Posted by: dcwun

Anthony Aldridge. The next Adrian Peterson once we sit him down with Tiki Barber to learn about protecting the football.
The kids got that fire to show what he can do and he would cut off his own pinkie to get into the game.

Posted by: CheyenneWY | October 9, 2009 2:38 PM | Report abuse

Portis ain't Barry Sanders. He (and few do) doesn't have the ability to break tackles in the backfield and make a big gain out of it. Disturbing piece by Hoge there. Means that the talent is pretty much being wasted by an idiot head coach. So what's new?

Posted by: ga8085

Well, I would say your interpretation is correct.

Posted by: dcwun | October 9, 2009 2:40 PM | Report abuse

Here are the three universal truths and they are undeniable

1) You must have a better than average O line to have an effective running game

2)Team confidence directly applies to success on the field. The medias scrutiny is famaging morale and killing their confidence.

3) A lap dance is better when the stripper is crying.

book it

Posted by: CheyenneWY | October 9, 2009 2:41 PM | Report abuse

We need Otis Wonsley to lead for Portis!

Posted by: joeboggs | October 9, 2009 2:42 PM | Report abuse

Haynesworth will win this game for us... 2 sacks

Posted by: MonkMossMann | October 9, 2009 2:42 PM | Report abuse

Zorn has to show him that he is replaceable and give the young studs a shot at the title.

Posted by: CheyenneWY | October 9, 2009 2:33 PM | Report abuse

What young studs do you suggest we start instead of CP?

I think they should do a better job mixing in backs. At least let Betts and Alridge get some run.

If they could get the run game going I'd like to see the breakdown be 25 carries CP, 8 plays Betts, 5 plays Alridge.

Posted by: PortisPocketsStr8 | October 9, 2009 2:42 PM | Report abuse

MAKE IT STOP!! PLEASE!! JUST MAKE IT STOP!!

Posted by: p1funk | October 9, 2009 2:42 PM | Report abuse

Anthony Aldridge. The next Adrian Peterson once we sit him down with Tiki Barber to learn about protecting the football.
The kids got that fire to show what he can do and he would cut off his own pinkie to get into the game.

Posted by: CheyenneWY | October 9, 2009 2:38 PM


Are you serious? Aldridge is a NOBODY. He damn sure is not comparable to AP in even the most wild hallucinogen induced fantasies.

I hope you're kidding.

Posted by: ecale25 | October 9, 2009 2:43 PM | Report abuse

Anthony Aldridge. The next Adrian Peterson once we sit him down with Tiki Barber to learn about protecting the football.
The kids got that fire to show what he can do and he would cut off his own pinkie to get into the game.

Posted by: CheyenneWY

The next Adrian Peterson? You are kidding right? Butterfingers Aldridge is a 175lb journeyman, not a starting RB in the NFL.

Posted by: dcwun | October 9, 2009 2:44 PM | Report abuse

Otis Wonsley was the man....

Posted by: chrislarry | October 9, 2009 2:44 PM | Report abuse

We all know what an asset Portis can be when healthy. Running CP at 80% may have worked in the past, but with our depth at RB...we should sit him and let him get healthy for a late season run.

Posted by: CheyenneWY | October 9, 2009 2:45 PM | Report abuse

I can live with benching Sellers for a game and seeing what Yoder can do as a lead blocker. Not like he can do any worse than Sellers' blocking imaginary opponents and dropping balls that hit him in the hands.

Posted by: ecale25 | October 9, 2009 2:46 PM | Report abuse

Otis Wonsley was the man....

Posted by: chrislarry | October 9, 2009 2:44 PM | Report abuse

Man, those were the days.

Posted by: joeboggs | October 9, 2009 2:47 PM | Report abuse

You call a $500,000 signing bonus a restructure? In the world of Port-o-let that is chump change. I would drop a TD pass too if that was all that moneybags Snyder could cough up.

Posted by: BiggerVance |

Sellers just got a new contract like...3 weeks ago. He was very happy with it. And he has not played well since....

I love him but I'm just sayin....

Posted by: Lisa_R | October 9, 2009 2:47 PM | Report abuse

Beep Beep

Another undermining post.

well done Uncle Phil (seriously, look at the picture and tell me you dont start singing "now this is a story all about how my life got flipped turned upside down...)

Posted by: CheyenneWY | October 9, 2009 2:48 PM | Report abuse

Hate to say it, but maybe this just aren't as talented as we all wish they were.

It's easy to blame the QB or the coach individually, because that require less time to turn the team around.

I think this notion that these guys are very good is quickly becoming hogwash.

Having said that, I hope to hell I am wrong, because I'd love to see them turn this thing around and stick to the media.

Posted by: shaunsherman12 | October 9, 2009 2:48 PM | Report abuse

From the Times, I think if Griff can't go, Wynn is active:

Clinton Portis and Mike Sellers went to the 2008 Pro Bowl as a backfield tandem, but WRC-4 reported that they got into a heated argument this week at Redskin Park about the latter's blocking for the former, one that required teammates separating them.

The Redskins declined to allow Portis and Sellers to talk to reporters on Friday and coach Jim Zorn said the incident was blown out of proportion.

"This is just how a team goes," Zorn said, not very convincingly. "There's no fisticuffs. There's no pushing and shoving. I don't really know what the discussion was [about]. These guys are like brothers. They care about each other."

Cornelius Griffin is questionable with the left elbow he injured against Tampa Bay. Fellow defensive tackle Anthony Montgomery (knee) will miss a fifth straight game. Offensive tackle Chris Samuels will start despite being limited in practice this week with knee and shin ailments. Kedric Golston will start if Griffin can't play.

"It's hurting me," said Griffin, who missed at least one game in four of his previous five seasons with the Redskins. "It's going to be a game-time decision. I'll do my best to go out and help the team, but at the same time I don't want to hurt us."

Linebacker Rocky McIntosh missed practice to attend a funeral.

Posted by: BeantownGreg1 | October 9, 2009 2:48 PM | Report abuse

psps23

"...Edge James operated out of the stretch run offense.."

And when he lost that 'burst to daylight' first step at a seam or hole in the blocking, the colts let him go.

What we haven't seen is any kind of play action or boot action where the stretch is a fake to Portis and JC hits a receiver open to the backside of the play.

That would freeze backside pursuit and give Portis a cutback angle.

Sorry for the scheme talk.

Posted by: MistaMoe | October 9, 2009 2:49 PM | Report abuse

Sellers did miss that block. The tragedy is that Portis needed to say something, if we had a coach who was a man, the coach would have been all over Sellers and Portis would not have had to say a word.

Posted by: nomolehill | October 9, 2009 2:52 PM | Report abuse

Maybe Portis and Sellers would be on the same page if Portis actually PRACTICED!

Posted by: NYSkinsFan1 | October 9, 2009 2:52 PM | Report abuse

I've been saying for two years that Sellers is over-rated.
Did anyone listen?
NOOOOOOOOO
The Danny gave him a raise.
Just when you think it can't get any worse, we get Sherm Lewis.
Meet the new boss.
Same as the old boss.

Posted by: RedskinWillie | October 9, 2009 2:53 PM | Report abuse

I smell a players only meeting on both offense and defense...get some of the older cats on both sides up there...PDaniels/Fletch take the defense, and Samuels takes the offense...tear em up one side, down the other....break em down then build them up...

Posted by: BeantownGreg1 | October 9, 2009 2:37 PM | Report abuse
=========================================
The only team meeting they should have is to find out who's leaking stuff to the press. Then deal with them the way they're supposed to dealt with. Outside of that, what went down between Portis and Sellars is typical locker room stuff. This is the reason you have team captains, players can say, do, and get away with somethings, that coaches can't.

Posted by: clark202 | October 9, 2009 3:01 PM | Report abuse

you all going out on the plank of that wheel-less ship and think we're gonna beat KC? hahahahahahahahahahaha!

Posted by: 1of9000 | October 9, 2009 3:15 PM | Report abuse

Portis should shut it and let Sellers get the rock on goal line situations. He is more likely to score than the overrated CP.

This team and organization is a joke. Trade or cut everybody except for Cooley, Fletcher, Horton and Smoot (for entertainment) the cheerleaders and the band. Go get a GM, keep the middling owner's fingers out of everything and rebuild from the ground up.

Posted by: siessmack | October 9, 2009 3:21 PM | Report abuse

3) A lap dance is better when the stripper is crying.

book it

Posted by: CheyenneWY | October 9, 2009 2:41 PM | Report abuse

ummmmm, really?

Posted by: JohnDinHouston | October 9, 2009 3:28 PM | Report abuse

Next Year:

GM = Bruce Allen

HC = Jon Gruden

We need some less balanced, less "medium" football guys who may not be much fun to take out to dinner but have actually won something this decade to run this team.

Posted by: hapste


One question, who will be the next coach after gruden goes 8-8, 9-7 his first season? But of course he will go 12-4 and to the NFC championship game meeting skins fans and FO instant gratification based expectations. But just in case Jon doesn't tell us who the next coach after him will be?

Posted by: ged0386 | October 9, 2009 3:35 PM | Report abuse

keep the middling owner's fingers out of everything and rebuild from the ground up.

Posted by: siessmack

Lets face it, the only way skins fans, the over the top DC media and its owner would be patient enough to let the skins start over and build from the ground up is if it took less than two seasons to do so. Skins fans cant stomach building from the ground up. They cant deal with a 9-7 or 8-8 seasons without calling for everyone's head. How do you expect them to deal with worse seasons that come with rebuilding? Skins fans were ready to run Gibbs out of town after two years, and thats Gibbs, the coach everyone was praying for before he got there.

Posted by: ged0386 | October 9, 2009 3:43 PM | Report abuse

you all going out on the plank of that wheel-less ship and think we're gonna beat KC? hahahahahahahahahahaha!

Posted by: 1of9000 |

this is the new mentality of skins fans and media. Predict doom and gloom, trash the team every week and hope they are proven wrong by the end of the year. What a fan base.

Posted by: ged0386 | October 9, 2009 3:46 PM | Report abuse

. The first year under Shanahan, the team finishes a solid 10-6 and makes it to the NFC championship.

Posted by: RedSkinHead |

Then when it does not happen this way you start over with fire Shanahan, draft a quarterback, make more FA acquisition for whoever is the big name back and wait for the quick fix to work and when it doesn't trash it and do it again until it works.

Posted by: ged0386 | October 9, 2009 3:52 PM | Report abuse

RedskinWillie

You call a probowl full back overrated? The only thing that is overrated is your opinion of your own opinions.

Posted by: ged0386 | October 9, 2009 3:57 PM | Report abuse

ged0386: They lost me years ago with their buffoonery and suck-all-your-cash mentality. They are morons, will remain morons until vinny leaves and danny boy leaves his hands off the operations. They have taken all the fun out of rooting for them, they are a constant dissapointment!

Posted by: 1of9000 | October 9, 2009 3:59 PM | Report abuse

The hell with all this nay-saying. Portis is the spark that we need. We need some leadership and I as a fan will take whatever toughness we can get. Lets try to be fans and support our team against the panthers and stop calling for Zorn's head non-stop.

Posted by: skinsfaninIndy | October 9, 2009 4:01 PM | Report abuse

Good people are throwing themselves under the bus; good teammates are at each other's throats. There's something rotten in the city of Ashburn.

If the Skins come out flat against the Panthers, they could easily be down 3 touchdowns in the 1st quarter. If the Skins locker room is a pressure cooker now, wait until they get blown out of there by the winless Panthers.

Who told Sellers what Portis said? What was the motivation for telling Sellers what Portis had said? Yikes! What a toxic work environment.

Have relationships soured to the point that now Sellers might not sacrifice his body since Portis will get all the glory anyway? Winners ask, "What do we need to do to win? How can I help my teammate be more successful?" That's not the feeling coming out of Ashburn.

What is the source of all these toxins? Who is poisoning the well?

Sellers did miss the key block. He also dropped a sure touchdown pass. Mistakes happen. That's life.

Portis is the same guy who faulted his offensive line at the beginning of last year. The thing about Portis is that he backed it up last year ... until he wore down.

Sellers did some fine blocking for Portis last year -- and he can still do it. The two can coexist, even hate each other and still get the job done. Unfortunately, the infighting is another distraction, where the focus is on perceived slights, and past mistakes, not on how to beat a very dangerous opponent.

Toxins: a culture of disrespect; a lack of integrity; whinyness; a culture of blame; a lack of teamwork; management undercutting the Coach's authority; fear.

The drama unfolding parallels the rules of tragedy. In a tragedy, the source of the problem starts at the top. The moral order is out of balance because of hubris, overweening pride. As a result, the state collapses. People die. Here, losing is like death.

Posted by: dannykurland1 | October 9, 2009 4:01 PM | Report abuse

Can I just say that Portis disgusts me? Seriously? Running to the coaches behind a players back is one of the most childish things I've heard. Be a man and address it with Sellars first! Besides that, Portis only runs into his back anyway. I've never seen a running back run into the back of his own teammate with his head down. You cant blame Sellars for that now can you! Portis hasnt had a good run since he got here in 2004. GO SKINS!!

Posted by: queent82 | October 9, 2009 4:18 PM | Report abuse

is sellar's the same guy who said before the regular season starts that training camp was easy and he might play another few years? if so give him his walking papers NOW and have zorn's typed up. zorn ran this soft" training camp and some of the players are soft. I don't care for some of portis's antics but he does speak up and sellar's has missed assignments. I saw the block he missed on the goal line on the reply of the lions game(did not see the game). some of these player's need to be called out and RELEASED. zorn will not do it because he is nothing but a soft-azz punk. stop losing with a bunch of overpaid veteran's I can take losing with young player's that are learning how to win but not vets,play or get cut.

Posted by: wathu19 | October 9, 2009 5:10 PM | Report abuse

And you know what this will cause to happen?

Portis will run harder and Sellers will block better.

Oh, My God, it's the end of the world.

Just two team mates kicking eachother in the rear.

It can't hurt.

Posted by: Thinker_ | October 9, 2009 6:01 PM | Report abuse

Oh, and "Fire the Owner."

Racquetball, Vinnie, Campell Soup, Devin Thomas, Fred Davis, Randle El, Rock Cartwright, Jim Zorn, Sherman Lewis = We suck

I hate the team, poor us, Good Old Days, and Sue the Fans.

That should just about cover it.

Go Dallas!

Posted by: Thinker_ | October 9, 2009 6:04 PM | Report abuse

Incompetent, corrupt regimes rely on secrecy and spin control to get their business done."

Posted by: Chia_Pet

All is well. We have another set of eyes.

Signed

Machiavelli

Posted by: ElYeah | October 9, 2009 7:37 PM | Report abuse

Hey Portis, AKA "Sheriff Spank Your Shankie"

Quit falling down, practice, stop cross dressing, quit pulling yourself out of games and shut the f-up.

Then maybe people will give a 5hit what you think.

Posted by: dashriprock | October 9, 2009 8:09 PM | Report abuse

Portis is right, the usually stellar Sellers has been AWFUL in short yardage situations, I've been noticing that myself.. but in a season where a lot has gone wrong, this doesn't surprise me that a coach doesn't realize the problem and two players have to come to fisticuffs to call attention to the problem...

Posted by: TDGibson | October 9, 2009 11:41 AM
Maybe the real story hasn't been stated; if Seller's blocking has really been that terrible, Portis shouldn't have had the opportunity to cause a problem because Zorn should have already made the switch to Yoder.

Posted by: kenboy1 | October 10, 2009 12:36 AM | Report abuse

You know, with all of the doom and gloom, you'd think we were 0-4. Maybe, just maybe, Rhinehart and Heyer will jell more, Kelly and Thomas will make a few nice catches, Orakpo will continue to improve, Campbell will nix the interceptions, the secondary will tighten up the coverage, Portis will get 100 yds, and we will beat Carolina. We wont look like world beaters, but our youngsters will improve, we'll get better in some of our problem areas, and we'll get another win. 3-2. Be honest, fellow Skins fans, that's only one less win than most of us expected at this point, right? Remember the funeral they were planning for the Giants season the first few games of their last super bowl year? Like a previous poster said, maybe Sellers will come out kicking some butt, and Portis will spring for 150, and they'll be rolling together in a loving embrace in the endzone on Sunday. Anyway, no matter, this depression is supposed to happen AFTER a BAD game, not BEFORE a very winnable game has even been played!!!!!

Posted by: kenboy1 | October 10, 2009 12:54 AM | Report abuse

Yet another player - Sellers - who gets a new contract from Snyder and then takes his foot off the gas pedal and lets the car coast to a stop. Getting called out by a teammate who was ahead of him in line at Snyder's cashier's window and whose car has long ago coasted to a stop. Awesome!!!!!

I'm starting to warm up to Portis for some strange reason. Is it possible love and affection await once one moves past disgust?

Posted by: rooster75 | October 10, 2009 1:35 AM | Report abuse

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