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Sources: Redskins Not Interested in Quinn

With the trade deadline Tuesday, there has been a little buzz out there about the Redskins possibly being in the mix for Cleveland Browns quarterback Brady Quinn.

Well, that's not going to happen, two league sources wrote in texts. The team is not interested in the former Notre Dame standout who has struggled with the Browns.

By Jason Reid  |  October 14, 2009; 4:50 PM ET
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There's a kid named Campbell that's puttin up some pretty good numbers

Posted by: pabrian2003 | October 14, 2009 4:55 PM | Report abuse

One bad idea down

No telling how many more to go

Posted by: CheyenneWY | October 14, 2009 4:55 PM | Report abuse

thanks for the confirmation. Dude makes JC look like Montana although Cleveland's o-line situation is much better then ours (sigh...did i say that)

Posted by: overzealous08 | October 14, 2009 4:56 PM | Report abuse

was this ever really legitimate??

And by legitimate I mean like my dibs on those Wash/Dall tix

Illigitimate would be that bama-mofo red, trying to creep in on them....

Posted by: BeantownGreg1 | October 14, 2009 4:56 PM | Report abuse

actually rhino played fairly well when he was in there by all accounts....

Posted by: BeantownGreg1 | October 14, 2009 4:53 PM | Report abuse

I can't resist: As opposed to when he wasn't in there?

Posted by: JohnDinHouston | October 14, 2009 4:56 PM | Report abuse

Thank goodness

Posted by: KingJoffeJoffer | October 14, 2009 4:57 PM | Report abuse

There's a kid named Campbell that's puttin up some pretty good numbers

Posted by: pabrian2003


Jason Campbell?

"Shieeeeeeeeeeeeeet..."

Posted by: RedDMV | October 14, 2009 4:58 PM | Report abuse

Quinn the Medicine Woman?

Posted by: JohnDinHouston | October 14, 2009 4:59 PM | Report abuse

There's a kid named Campbell that's puttin up some pretty good numbers

Posted by: pabrian2003


Jason Campbell?

"Shieeeeeeeeeeeeeet..."

Posted by: RedDMV | October 14, 2009 4:58 PM |

Let me say that another way Bull Shieeeeeeeeeeeet

Posted by: Flounder21 | October 14, 2009 5:01 PM | Report abuse

Can we trade for some of Brady Quinn's lifetime supply of EAS Myoplex? That would probably help the team more.

Posted by: PortisPocketsStr8 | October 14, 2009 5:01 PM | Report abuse

There's a kid named Campbell that's puttin up some pretty good numbers

Posted by: pabrian2003


Really? What's his win-loss record?

Posted by: p1funk | October 14, 2009 5:03 PM | Report abuse

Ravens need corner help in the worst way. They have this wierd thing that Skins don't have ... depth along the O-line. Oneill Cousins or Marshall Yanda ... neither is a starter there and either would be an upgrade here.

Posted by: dcsween | October 14, 2009 4:50 PM

Are you suggesting that we are deep at corner?

Posted by: zornskins2 | October 14, 2009 4:53 PM

No, I'm suggesting that Rogers' days on the roster are numbered ... that he wants out (calling out The Owner in a contract year seems like pretty much a death wish) ... that he'll be out as soon as he gets a chance (no way he gets D. Hall kind of money now) ... so with the trading deadline quickly approaching, this would be the type of value recovery move that would not surprise me. Whether it would upset me is another thing altogether.

Posted by: dcsween | October 14, 2009 5:03 PM | Report abuse

The solution to the O line problem? One word: Robots.

Posted by: bostskin | October 14, 2009 5:04 PM | Report abuse

Nice call on the Skins/Ravens chatter.

Are the O-Lineman in Balmur any good?

Posted by: CheyenneWY | October 14, 2009 5:06 PM | Report abuse

Why trade for Quinn when they've probably already fallen in love with Bradford?

Posted by: dfbovey | October 14, 2009 5:06 PM | Report abuse

You shut up Benny I would tell you to kiss my aZZ but you probably couldn't find it you blind Motha F-cker.

Posted by: Flounder21 | October 14, 2009 5:07 PM | Report abuse

I'd sooner see Portis traded than Rogers. What team needs a slightly banged up RB with a big contract?

Posted by: bostskin | October 14, 2009 5:07 PM | Report abuse

Romo has never won ANYTHING in the postseason.

To that end, he and Jason Campbell are alike. JC has never even made it to the playoffs.

Donovan McNabb is a probable HOFer, but he was BENCHED as recently as last year. He returned with renewed purpose and focus.

There is no good argument for not benching Jason Campbell - and soon - other than from those who have attached their personal pride to his ship and in turn cannot stand the thought of sitting the guy after 41 games and an 18-23 record.

Posted by: MrRedskin21 | October 14, 2009 3:13 PM

Some good could possibly come from benching Campbell, but your first 2 statements are astonishingly short-sighted.

HOF QB Sonny Juregenson never won any postseason games, either. He didn't have a particularly good overall record, either. Do you really think benching Sonny would have caused his teams to win more games? Do you think the Cowpies would win more games this year with Jon Kitna or Stephen McGee at QB? Romo is turing the ball over a lot, but he's still the best QB on the Pies roster. Same goes for Campbell. Rewind your preseason tapes.

Posted by: Alan4 | October 14, 2009 5:07 PM | Report abuse

Beans, those DAL/WAS tickets are mine.

Fugehdaboudit!

pab, I'll have two of what you're having. You're bugging talkin that Campbell and "pretty good numbers" stuff, for real.

F Brady Quinn.

They could go and sign freakin' Wayne Brady, and guess what? This pass offense will still suck ass.

Posted by: RedDMV | October 14, 2009 5:09 PM | Report abuse

I'd sooner see Portis traded than Rogers. What team needs a slightly banged up RB with a big contract?

Posted by: bostskin


Portis will be released rather than traded. Nobody will want his contract.


Posted by: dfbovey | October 14, 2009 5:09 PM | Report abuse

The solution to the O line problem? One word: Robots.

Posted by: bostskin

We trying the robot thing. His name is Jason Campbell.

Posted by: Kenbeatrizz | October 14, 2009 5:10 PM | Report abuse

Oh you want hit people with carbage cans now I got to cut yah.

Posted by: Flounder21 | October 14, 2009 5:10 PM | Report abuse

actually rhino played fairly well when he was in there by all accounts ...

Posted by: BeantownGreg1 | October 14, 2009 4:53 PM | Report abuse

Against the Rams, W. Montgomery finished the game after Thomas went down. Skins win.

Against the Lions, Rinehart started. Skins lose.

Against Tampa Bay, Rinehart started, Montgomery finished. Skins win.

Against Carolina, Mike Williams started ... you know the rest.

The difference btwn the halfs in the Tampa Bay game says a lot. [And I'm not just saying that b/c the "season started" in the second half for me and chRIs LaRry's friends.]

Posted by: dcsween | October 14, 2009 5:12 PM | Report abuse

Portis will be released rather than traded. Nobody will want his contract.


Posted by: dfbovey | October 14, 2009 5:09 PM | Report abuse

That was um, tongue in cheek.

Posted by: bostskin | October 14, 2009 5:12 PM | Report abuse

There's a kid named Campbell that's puttin up some pretty good numbers

Posted by: pabrian2003 | October 14, 2009 4:55 PM | Report abuse

__________________________________________

NO HE's not... the only #'s that matter are W's & L's... 2-3... career 18-24... still want JC over Cutler?

Posted by: tony325 | October 14, 2009 5:13 PM | Report abuse

I've got a good feeling about this Montgomery kid. One bright spot on what looks to be a disaster of an O-line...

Posted by: JohnnyRyde | October 14, 2009 5:14 PM | Report abuse

Sources: Redskins Not Interested in Quinn
- The Mayor

Source: Browns Not Interested Either
- Duh

Posted by: dcsween | October 14, 2009 5:15 PM | Report abuse

Oh was skimming back and saw that THE all-time BOB (Bama of the Blog), 4thFloor was dissing again.

Ol' Jason Campbell after he throws an incompletion face'd bama!

Mouth-Breathing-Lost-In-The-Sauce acting like bama...

Posted by: RedDMV | October 14, 2009 5:16 PM | Report abuse

Portis will be released rather than traded. Nobody will want his contract.

Posted by: dfbovey | October 14, 2009 5:09 PM

I'm pretty sure that Portis himself will still want his contract ... so technically, that's "somebody."

Posted by: dcsween | October 14, 2009 5:16 PM | Report abuse

See Flound is on his Harlem Nights ish...

lol

Posted by: RedDMV | October 14, 2009 5:18 PM | Report abuse

From Doctor Correct: In a football game there are are two halves: The first half and the second half. There are no halfs. There are occasionally calfs, if only metaphorically.

Posted by: bostskin | October 14, 2009 5:18 PM | Report abuse

Why trade for Quinn when they've probably already fallen in love with Bradford?

Posted by: dfbovey | October 14, 2009 5:06 PM | Report abuse
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Bradford or Tebow would be a bad move... no QB in spread offense has ever been successful in NFL. Alex Smith??

I'm looking at current QB's... I think Vick is sounding better & better... hope Philly lets him walk... Vick is already putting stuff out there stating he hopes they don't pick up his option cause he wants to be starting QB.

Posted by: tony325 | October 14, 2009 5:19 PM | Report abuse

See Flound is on his Harlem Nights ish...

lol

Posted by: RedDMV | October 14, 2009 5:18 PM |

It's the only thing on.

Posted by: Flounder21 | October 14, 2009 5:20 PM | Report abuse

Does Cincinnati run a spread offense? This Tony Pike kid is tall and getting lots of good media vibe.

Posted by: dcsween | October 14, 2009 5:24 PM | Report abuse

I remember when Spurrier was here and he had them two QB's from his college Team that could not play a lick of Pro Football.

Brady Quinn sucks and is every bit as bad as them two QB's was.

I'm hearing that Gruden wants Quinn.

Boy, you think things are bad now, my gosh.

LarryInClintonMD.

Posted by: LarryInClintonMD | October 14, 2009 5:25 PM | Report abuse

I am listening to 980 and reading some of the post on the blog. I can not believe people are so far gone that they are calling for Collins. Everyone and their grandma have said the o line sucks. Yet you want to put in a old guy that can't run at all!! Remember that playoff game and how he looked when he was under pressure? That line was better than this crew they have now. Step away from the drugs

Posted by: jm220 | October 14, 2009 5:26 PM | Report abuse

I am listening to 980 and reading some of the post on the blog. I can not believe people are so far gone that they are calling for Collins. Everyone and their grandma have said the o line sucks. Yet you want to put in a old guy that can't run at all!! Remember that playoff game and how he looked when he was under pressure? That line was better than this crew they have now. Step away from the drugs

Posted by: jm220 | October 14, 2009 5:26 PM | Report abuse

Bradford or Tebow would be a bad move... no QB in spread offense has ever been successful in NFL. Alex Smith??

Posted by: tony325

Aaron Rodgers played in a spread offense in college.


Posted by: dfbovey | October 14, 2009 5:26 PM | Report abuse

People are calling for Collins because Campbell can't read a defense, can't hit wide open WRs down the field and has poor awareness in general.

Posted by: dfbovey | October 14, 2009 5:28 PM | Report abuse

Charlie Batch?

Posted by: CheyenneWY | October 14, 2009 5:30 PM | Report abuse

Excuse DuJour for Senor Campbell:

2006 - learning, young, etc.
2007 - ditto until the merciful injury
2008 - 3rd system in 3 years (whatever)
2009 - distraction, media, lot going on

He could not even be a backup if I was the coach. Enough is enough with this guy. Players make plays, not excuses.

Posted by: Political_Stratgst | October 14, 2009 5:30 PM | Report abuse

I think what everyone here needs is a good laugh. Well, I just found it, quite accidentally:

http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index;_ylt=ArCWCxWKknB4CmUM74kfH2JWxQt.;_ylv=3?qid=20091014085624AA6WxrN

Posted by: freakzilla | October 14, 2009 5:30 PM | Report abuse

Bradford or Tebow would be a bad move... no QB in spread offense has ever been successful in NFL. Alex Smith??

Posted by: tony325

Aaron Rodgers played in a spread offense in college.


Posted by: dfbovey |

No he didn't. He played at Cal. They didn't run a spread O.

Posted by: dcwun | October 14, 2009 5:31 PM | Report abuse

I prefer the spread-eagle offense.

Posted by: Poopy_McPoop | October 14, 2009 5:31 PM | Report abuse

I am listening to 980 and reading some of the post on the blog. I can not believe people are so far gone that they are calling for Collins. Everyone and their grandma have said the o line sucks. Yet you want to put in a old guy that can't run at all!! Remember that playoff game and how he looked when he was under pressure? That line was better than this crew they have now. Step away from the drugs

Posted by: jm220

Maybe it's because Collins can get the ball out quicker

Posted by: rachel216 | October 14, 2009 5:33 PM | Report abuse

When the chips are down and things get really depressing ... TIME TO THINK ABOUT THE DRAFT! I recognize its a little early, but the mockery sites already have their first rounds starting to be mapped out. On one of them (they had the Skins picking #13 again ... but had the same draft order as last year ... because it IS only Week 6), but they had the Skins going for the QB from Ole Miss (Jevan Snead?). They didn't even have Colt McCoy until way later (after some other kid). They had Bradford going first, and then Tebow in there somewhere in between. Early draft mockeries look better for defensive line than offensive line. The guy they had going second was a safety and it wasn't Taylor Mays (Eric Berry, Tennessee?). They also say that the current LT from Oklahoma (Trent Williams) is actually the reason that Loadholt and Duke Robinson looked good.

Never to early to get out my Kiper helmet.

Posted by: dcsween | October 14, 2009 5:35 PM | Report abuse

Its almost worth the four losses and three concussions to throw Collins out there just to smarten some of the peeps up.

The reason JC17 isnt dead yet is because he can move his legs. Collins, not so much.

It would be Kimbo Slice vs. Gary Coleman

Posted by: CheyenneWY | October 14, 2009 5:36 PM | Report abuse

Sween,

That guy from Tenn. Berry is a very good player, I don't know if he is better than Mays though.

Posted by: Flounder21 | October 14, 2009 5:37 PM | Report abuse

Dan Syder seen out around town:

http://www.peopleofwalmart.com/?p=3185

Posted by: Poopy_McPoop | October 14, 2009 5:38 PM | Report abuse

Too bad Kimbo Slice also sucks and is very overrated.

Posted by: Poopy_McPoop | October 14, 2009 5:39 PM | Report abuse

I'm not sure when Monty found out he would be starting, but jeez -- its Wednesday after practice. Tell the guy Monday morning so he can get his reps in with the 1st team all week. I hate that Zorn waits and waits to make this sort of call. He did it with Kelly at #2 WR and he did it with the Rinehart/Monty competition a couple weeks back.

These young guys needs every ounce of practice with the 1st unit they can get. Make the decision early.

Posted by: zcezcest1 | October 14, 2009 5:39 PM | Report abuse

W. Montgomery > Rhino...

play the baller, not the draft pick....

Posted by: chrislarry | October 14, 2009 5:40 PM | Report abuse

We have needs other than QB in the 2010 draft, IMHO. Sign JC17 to a one or two year deal. It should be pretty cheap and we'll need that money in other areas. Draft almost nothing but linemen in the next draft and pick up a QB in the draft the year after that...

Posted by: JohnnyRyde | October 14, 2009 5:40 PM | Report abuse

If they keep the majority of the guys and invest on some young stud lineman...I think you would see a dramatic turnaround...practically overnight.

Posted by: CheyenneWY | October 14, 2009 5:42 PM | Report abuse

Aaron Rodgers played in a spread offense in college.


Posted by: dfbovey | October 14, 2009 5:26 PM | Report abuse
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If that's true... not too familiar with Cali offense... you think Dan Snyder would of had the patience 3-4 years for Rodgers to breakout... I guess if he had favre, lol... I do think Bradford is best in college, but how long will it take him to learn pro offense?

I just checked out Mel Kiper big board, looking for more names... Clausen & Locker are intriguing also. Clausen is a real competitor, definitely has been in pressure situations at the end of games... Notre Dame in a dogfight every week.

Posted by: tony325 | October 14, 2009 5:42 PM | Report abuse

I am listening to 980 and reading some of the post on the blog. I can not believe people are so far gone that they are calling for Collins. Everyone and their grandma have said the o line sucks. Yet you want to put in a old guy that can't run at all!! Remember that playoff game and how he looked when he was under pressure? That line was better than this crew they have now. Step away from the drugs

Posted by: jm220

Dude,

You need to be listening to the Fan 106.7, they talking about bringing in Brady Quinn,...Collins, no, Brady Quinn is being considered, for LOL.

LarryInClintonMD.

Posted by: LarryInClintonMD | October 14, 2009 5:43 PM | Report abuse

sween- On your draft prognosticating...who do you have pulling the trigger in Ashburn in '10?

-Vin/Dan
-Jimmy Johnson
-Morocco Brown
-RI
-The Media
-Other

Posted by: 4-12 | October 14, 2009 5:45 PM | Report abuse

Why are you whiney wimps complaining about putting Todd Collins in. For crying out loud, try something. If it doesn't work, who gives a damn, put Campbell back in. He ain't signing with the Skins anyway. Remember when Campbell got hurt in that Bears game and Collins came in? The offense went from low gear to high gear. Our offense is so pathetic, then try Collins who may be able to spot receivers quicker.

Posted by: getitritegov | October 14, 2009 5:46 PM | Report abuse

Why has Buges been so quiet...this has to be killing him.

Posted by: CheyenneWY | October 14, 2009 5:46 PM | Report abuse

As the Skins prepare to play the Chiefs on Sunday I thought it would be interesting to reflect on the similarities of the two teams:

1. Both teams suck hard.

2. Both teams have Indians as icons - Redskins and Chiefs. The similarity ends there. One icon is cornsidered a slur, the other noble.

3. The team colors are very similar. One is burgundy and gold, the other red and gold. This only happened because the Chiefs were an AFL team and the negotiated merger with the NFL specifically allowed them to retain their colors.

The similarity in team colors has some wondering if Skins HC Z might head towards the wrong sideline at the begining of the game or the beginning of the second half. He has a history of bipolar pigmentitus, a disorder that afflicts those who struggle to correctly identify team colors, and the mental strain and stress he is under has probably aggravated the condition.

Posted by: ElDrano | October 14, 2009 5:48 PM | Report abuse

If they keep the majority of the guys and invest on some young stud lineman...I think you would see a dramatic turnaround...practically overnight.

Posted by: CheyenneWY | October 14, 2009 5:42 PM | Report abuse

___________________________________________

Yeah, Jason Campbell could hold the ball even longer... gotta stop blaming the line... at some point the QB has to bring a team to victory despite their deficiencies... that's what the good/great ones do.

Campbell has no pre-snap recognition... Most QB's know where they are going with the ball before it is even snapped... Campbell just waits for guys to get open or gets sacked waiting.

Posted by: tony325 | October 14, 2009 5:48 PM | Report abuse

Of note, we're still at significant risk for injury on the OL.

Heyer and BMW to be specific.

Heyer has been injured every year here and both Heyer and BMW missed time in preseason.

I was surprised/pleased that BMW made it through the game on Sunday -- I'd be amazed if he was able to make it through most of a season given what he's gone through to get here.

We started with 10 OL, we're down to 8. Our backups are now Batiste, Rinehart (who is injured apparently) and Edwin Williams.

Posted by: zcezcest1 | October 14, 2009 5:48 PM | Report abuse

I hope Zorn does put Collins in. Then when his non moving ass get crush. I wonder what people would say then. No, I am not saying JC is a great QB but hell no would be with this o line.

Posted by: jm220 | October 14, 2009 5:50 PM | Report abuse

I heard the 'Skins are gonna sign Kate Gosslin to provide some O-Line help.

Posted by: Poopy_McPoop | October 14, 2009 5:51 PM | Report abuse

Redskin fan wake up and stop chasing stars!!!!

It always comes back to Campbell with you people. I want you guys to watch the GAME. By the time Campbell takes his drop, he is under pressure. Notice how other QBs have time to relax in the pocket, and go through their progressions. When JC has time he is a decent QB. he's not Manning, he ain't mcnabb, he ain't Brady, Farve, Palmer, etc.

But all I ask is name 15 QBs in the league better. Name 31 better. Name a free agent QB that is better.

Let's see how zorn adjust with the weak offensive line.

Posted by: simplewords999 | October 14, 2009 5:52 PM | Report abuse

According to ESPN today, there are 5 teams will need new coaches at season's end.

Here is how those teams were ranked:

San Diego
Dallas
Washington
Buffalo
Oakland

Washington was noted for:

Good: Facilities, Defense, and the Owner Will Spend Money.

Bad: Below Average QB, Meddling Owner, and one of the weakest, if not THE WEAKEST GM in the NFL.

Posted by: ksquare | October 14, 2009 5:52 PM | Report abuse


.....what JM said, I think

Posted by: 1965skinsfan | October 14, 2009 5:55 PM | Report abuse

2010 NFL Draft: If Russell Okung OT is available when the skins pick ( probably) between 2-4 overall, they should grab this guy. But you know that this dysfunctional team will try to turn him into a left guard and then wonder why he is struggling to adjust to the NFL level.

Posted by: pennstate1 | October 14, 2009 5:55 PM | Report abuse

From RI: "Sources: Redskins Not Interested in Quinn"

Jesus. How can the Skins not be interested in the Mighty Quinn?

Come all without, come all within
You'll not see nothing like the Mighty Quinn
Come all without, come all within
You'll not see nothing like the Mighty Quinn

Everybody's building ships and boats
Some are building monuments, others are jotting down notes
Everybody's in despair, every girl and boy
But when Quinn the Brown's QB gets here
Everybody's gonna jump for joy

Come all without, come all within
You'll not see nothing like the Mighty Quinn

I like to go just like the rest, I like my sugar sweet
But jumping queues and makin' haste, just ain't my cup of meat
Everyone's beneath the trees, feedin' pigeons on a limb
But when Quinn the Brown's QB gets here
All the pigeons gonna run to him

Come all without, come all within
You'll not see nothing like the Mighty Quinn
Come all without, come all within
You'll not see nothing like the Mighty Quinn

Posted by: ElDrano | October 14, 2009 5:56 PM | Report abuse

Little known fact (outside of Ohio): James Garfield (first President considered to be "assassinated") did not die of the bullet lodged in his spine, but rather from the infection from the doctors picking at it while he was recuperating. Road to hell, good intentions such as ... can never have too many cooks when making broth.

Posted by: dcsween |

I've had Picked Spine Broth before. With proper seasoning, it makes a fine, fine soup.

Posted by: TheCork | October 14, 2009 5:56 PM | Report abuse

heard the 'Skins are gonna sign Kate Gosslin to provide some O-Line help.

Posted by: Poopy_McPoop

She obviously has no concept of "gap control"

DOH!

Posted by: CheyenneWY | October 14, 2009 5:58 PM | Report abuse

Given our current situation at O-line, I'm going to make a wild-arsed prediction here:

Chase Daniel returns to the Skins 53-man roster before the season is out.

I don't predict that he'll play, but barring a major increase in the O-line's level of play, either Campbell or Collins is gonna get hurt and at the very least we'll need a fresh body to stand there and hold that clipboard.

Posted by: freakzilla | October 14, 2009 5:59 PM | Report abuse

I hope Zorn does put Collins in. Then when his non moving ass get crush. I wonder what people would say then. No, I am not saying JC is a great QB but hell no would be with this o line.

Posted by: jm220 |

How about Andre Whatsisface, that QB they "stole" from the Gints. Let's crank him up.

Hell, Antwaan Randle El should have a shot.

I guess Rino's confidence is shot as a lineman. Put HIM in as QB.

Throw some dummies at Zorn for a week and he might be ready to go.

Sonny? Put your golden arm where your mouth is...

Congressman Shuler? You aren't doing anything important on capitol Hil. Suit ['em up for another try.

Lots of options out there kids...

Posted by: TheCork | October 14, 2009 6:01 PM | Report abuse

The emergency QB will be Jeff Garcia.

What about ARE as QB and put Marko in his spot

Posted by: CheyenneWY | October 14, 2009 6:02 PM | Report abuse

When the chips are down and things get really depressing ... TIME TO THINK ABOUT THE DRAFT! I recognize its a little early, but the mockery sites already have their first rounds starting to be mapped out. On one of them (they had the Skins picking #13 again ... but had the same draft order as last year ... because it IS only Week 6), but they had the Skins going for the QB from Ole Miss (Jevan Snead?).....
Never to early to get out my Kiper helmet.

Posted by: dcsween | October 14, 2009 5:35 PM

Jevon Snead's stock is going way down from what I've heard. He was a preseason favorite but has had some ugly games - vs South Carolina was one that I know of.

It'll be interesting to see what direction they go in. If they're picking top 5 left tackle or QB would make the most sense to me anyway

Posted by: skinswest | October 14, 2009 6:04 PM | Report abuse

Freak that is the sad part. It's going to take somone getting hurt before some of these air heads realize that it is the line. It's not going matter if you have JC or Collins back there

Posted by: jm220 | October 14, 2009 6:04 PM | Report abuse

Not sure where the Dolphins are as it relates to offensive line, but is it worth taking a look at some wildcat plays to keep the D off balance.

PLAY ALDRIDGE

Posted by: CheyenneWY | October 14, 2009 6:05 PM | Report abuse

Given our current situation at O-line, I'm going to make a wild-arsed prediction here:

Chase Daniel returns to the Skins 53-man roster before the season is out.

I don't predict that he'll play, but barring a major increase in the O-line's level of play, either Campbell or Collins is gonna get hurt and at the very least we'll need a fresh body to stand there and hold that clipboard.

Posted by: freakzilla | October 14, 2009 5:59 PM

The kid has wheels at least.

Posted by: skinswest | October 14, 2009 6:06 PM | Report abuse

getitritegov- Yeah, I tend to agree with you. I know the oline sucks but what is it gonna hurt? The offense can't be any worse and they still haven't broke the 20 point barrier while playing against some horrible defenses, might as well try Todd Collins, if it doesn't work then put JC back in. If we keep the same people, nothing's gonna change and right now the easiest position the change is the QB position.

Posted by: rachel216 | October 14, 2009 6:07 PM | Report abuse

Not sure where the Dolphins are as it relates to offensive line, but is it worth taking a look at some wildcat plays to keep the D off balance.

PLAY ALDRIDGE

Posted by: CheyenneWY | October 14, 2009 6:05 PM

Maybe go max protection with 2-3 TE's and hope the defense can hold on. It'd be ugly but it might keep our QB's alive.

Posted by: skinswest | October 14, 2009 6:09 PM | Report abuse

Its been ugly...but at least it will be an ugly W vs. an ugly L

Posted by: CheyenneWY | October 14, 2009 6:10 PM | Report abuse

I think we should trade for Michael Vick.

Then we should put him behind our O-line.

We won't win any games, but we'll get good publicity from PETA.

Posted by: JohnnyRyde | October 14, 2009 6:12 PM | Report abuse

It's pretty funny that despite all the turmoil around this team and the uncertain future of Zorn that they're still linked to trade rumors for guys like Quinn. What a joke. Sure, trade some picks for a QB, nevermind that the HC may be gone next week and a new HC next season may not even like Quinn. Makes perfect sense.

Posted by: skinswest | October 14, 2009 6:12 PM | Report abuse

If we keep the same people, nothing's gonna change and right now the easiest position the change is the QB position.

Posted by: rachel216 | October 14, 2009 6:07 PM

Actually, the OLine is the easiest position to change, as 3 of the 5 spots will have different starters than last week.
Put an old statue behind that, and the easiest position to change the following week will be "new back-up QB to replace dearly departed TheTodd."

Posted by: 4-12 | October 14, 2009 6:12 PM | Report abuse

I love the desperation up here. Solutions all over the map. Do the Wildcat. Start Collins. Start ARE at QB. Fire everyone.

But no one up here wants Brady Quinn.

Posted by: zcezcest1 | October 14, 2009 6:12 PM | Report abuse

Scamp's file in the blank question of the day...

Danny is a pile of_______.

...he must go.

Posted by: scampbell1975 | October 14, 2009 6:14 PM | Report abuse

Its been ugly...but at least it will be an ugly W vs. an ugly L

Posted by: CheyenneWY | October 14, 2009 6:10 PM

Agreed. Don't see how else they can go forward. If they don't just try and pound away with the running game mixed with some play action, JC or whoever's back there will be running for their lives.

Posted by: skinswest | October 14, 2009 6:15 PM | Report abuse

zeke- Didn't Anderson put up a 2 for 15 or something last week? And the Browns STILL won't start Quinn? Yikes.

Posted by: 4-12 | October 14, 2009 6:16 PM | Report abuse

I love the desperation up here. Solutions all over the map. Do the Wildcat. Start Collins. Start ARE at QB. Fire everyone.

But no one up here wants Brady Quinn.

Posted by: zcezcest1

Like trading Herpes for gonorrhea.

No thanks...better the devil you know vs. the devil you dont.

Go get him JC17

Posted by: CheyenneWY | October 14, 2009 6:17 PM | Report abuse

Are you suggesting that we are deep at corner?

Posted by: zornskins2 | October 14, 2009 4:53 PM

No, I'm suggesting that Rogers' days on the roster are numbered ... that he wants out (calling out The Owner in a contract year seems like pretty much a death wish) ... that he'll be out as soon as he gets a chance (no way he gets D. Hall kind of money now) ... so with the trading deadline quickly approaching, this would be the type of value recovery move that would not surprise me. Whether it would upset me is another thing altogether.

Posted by: dcsween

This makes much too much sense to ever happen.

Posted by: TheCork | October 14, 2009 6:19 PM | Report abuse

But no one up here wants Brady Quinn.

Posted by: zcezcest1 | October 14, 2009 6:12 PM

To me it's not even a question if the guy's decent or not. Nevermind that it would take him awhile to learn the offense, Zorn could be gone next week, a few weeks after, or at the end of the season. Whoever the new coach is may not even want Quinn. It'd just be another waste of picks (unless they trade a player).

Posted by: skinswest | October 14, 2009 6:19 PM | Report abuse

It goes both ways...If they are going to dump Zorn, then dump Campbell too. No sense in JC17 learning another style of offense.

Bring in a young guy and let them learn together; or keep Zorn and JC17 and get some help on the line

Posted by: CheyenneWY | October 14, 2009 6:25 PM | Report abuse

There's a kid named Campbell that's puttin up some pretty good numbers

Posted by: pabrian2003 | October 14, 2009 4:55 PM |

Define good... because we have about the most conservative game planning in the league and we don't rack up yards or TDs thru the air.. JC should be trade bait

Posted by: scottmando | October 14, 2009 6:26 PM | Report abuse

Ravens need corner help in the worst way. They have this wierd thing that Skins don't have ... depth along the O-line. Oneill Cousins or Marshall Yanda ... neither is a starter there and either would be an upgrade here.

Posted by: dcsween | October 14, 2009 4:50 PM

Are you suggesting that we are deep at corner?

Posted by: zornskins2 | October 14, 2009 4:53 PM

No, I'm suggesting that Rogers' days on the roster are numbered ... that he wants out (calling out The Owner in a contract year seems like pretty much a death wish) ... that he'll be out as soon as he gets a chance (no way he gets D. Hall kind of money now) ... so with the trading deadline quickly approaching, this would be the type of value recovery move that would not surprise me. Whether it would upset me is another thing altogether.

Posted by: dcsween | October 14, 2009 5:03 PM | Report abuse

This sis the kind of move I would like to see..get rid of the guys who ain't coming back anyway and get something for them

Posted by: scottmando | October 14, 2009 6:28 PM | Report abuse

Why would any competent GM trade player/$$/draft pick for a corner who'll be a restricted FA next year?

I mean, it's not like other teams have Vinny Cerrato as their GM.

Posted by: Poopy_McPoop | October 14, 2009 6:33 PM | Report abuse

This sis the kind of move I would like to see..get rid of the guys who ain't coming back anyway and get something for them

Posted by: scottmando | October 14, 2009 6:28 PM | Report abuse

Stop talking such non-sense. Vinny and Danny don't know what forsight means, only foreskin.

Posted by: ksquare | October 14, 2009 6:33 PM | Report abuse

From PFT, comments directed at Green Bay, possibly the only team in worse shape than us at OL.

The Jaguars signed Tra Thomas in the offseason, before taking Eugene Monroe and Eben Britton on the first day of the draft. Thomas is part of the rotation in Jacksonville; in Green Bay, he'd instantly start on the right side or the left. So the Packers should call the Jags, and the Packers should be willing to give up much as a fourth-round pick for him.
If the Packers are feeling especially frisky in this regard, they should call the Browns and find out whether the fire-sale mentality that sent Kellen Winslow to Tampa Bay and Braylon Edwards to the Jets extends to left tackle and Wisconsin native Joe Thomas.

Posted by: bostskin | October 14, 2009 6:34 PM | Report abuse

I've got two names for you...Welcome to the 2010 NFL draft live from Radio City Music Hall... The Redskins first round pick...Russel Okung OT out of Oklahoma State...The Redskins second round pick... Jake Locker QB out of Washington...possibly the best nfl style QB out of this draft... thank you

Posted by: byebyesny | October 14, 2009 6:34 PM | Report abuse

Why would any competent GM trade player/$$/draft pick for a corner who'll be a restricted FA next year?

I mean, it's not like other teams have Vinny Cerrato as their GM.

Posted by: Poopy_McPoop | October 14, 2009 6:33 PM


A reasonable point. The Redskins do seem to define the lower (upper?) limit of the Greater Fool Theory.

Posted by: freakzilla | October 14, 2009 6:35 PM | Report abuse

Why would any competent GM trade player/$$/draft pick for a corner who'll be a restricted FA next year?

I mean, it's not like other teams have Vinny Cerrato as their GM.

Posted by: Poopy_McPoop | October 14, 2009 6:33 PM

If he's restricted wouldn't the new team have leverage by being able to tender an offer to him where they get decent picks in return or make the price higher than most teams would want to pay?

Posted by: skinswest | October 14, 2009 6:37 PM | Report abuse

If the Packers are feeling especially frisky in this regard, they should call the Browns and find out whether the fire-sale mentality that sent Kellen Winslow to Tampa Bay and Braylon Edwards to the Jets extends to left tackle and Wisconsin native Joe Thomas.

Posted by: bostskin | October 14, 2009 6:34 PM

If the Browns did that, Mangini or whoever makes that decision should be run out of town instantly.

Posted by: skinswest | October 14, 2009 6:40 PM | Report abuse

Stop talking such non-sense. Vinny and Danny don't know what forsight means, only foreskin.

Posted by: ksquare


Well, Danny is Jewish, so he was presumably only eight days old at his bris and doesn't remember it.


Oh, wait, I see what you were doing. Say, know any good ones about poop or farts?

Posted by: freakzilla | October 14, 2009 6:41 PM | Report abuse

Why would any competent GM trade player/$$/draft pick for a corner who'll be a restricted FA next year?

I mean, it's not like other teams have Vinny Cerrato as their GM.

Posted by: Poopy_McPoop | October 14, 2009 6:33 PM | Report abuse

Teams do it all the time. Thats how we got D. Hall. CR wouldnt have to move if he played in Baltimore so he would want to sign with them..what defensive player wouldn't? and if JC is starting for another team this year he would be a fool to test the waters and not take whatever deal he's offered with starting money..why not get compensation for guys you won't want next year?

Posted by: scottmando | October 14, 2009 6:41 PM | Report abuse

Why would any competent GM trade player/$$/draft pick for a corner who'll be a restricted FA next year?

-

If you think he is right for your system, and can help you now, you trade for him and get him in there now. If he works out, and he likes your club, renegotiate before he becomes a FA.

Posted by: edvar | October 14, 2009 6:43 PM | Report abuse

We don't want JC but we shouldn't waste any picks on a college QB either. We need OL help..we could start Collins behind a better line or a journeyman backup..thats what JC will be in a couple of years anyway..

Posted by: scottmando | October 14, 2009 6:44 PM | Report abuse

Oh, wait, I see what you were doing. Say, know any good ones about poop or farts?

Posted by: freakzilla | October 14, 2009 6:41 PM | Report abuse

Johnny Carson's car breaks down and he has to take a bus. Johnny gets on and sits down next to a woman with a cat on her lap.

Woman says...pardon me, but aren't you Johnny Carson? He says, well yes I am. She says it's an honor to meet you, would you mind petting my pusey?

Johnny says sure, as long as you move the cat. Badonnn Bummmmmm.....

Posted by: ksquare | October 14, 2009 6:50 PM | Report abuse

No matter what the situation is, we should NOT bundle draft picks from next year to help us out of this year's mess.

We have too many needs and not enough picks as it is. We just have to bite the bullet this year with who we have or who we can trade, but no picks!

Posted by: edvar | October 14, 2009 6:51 PM | Report abuse

that's right Jason Campbell perhaps the only QB in tv league that could survive a season behind Vinny's line.

Campbell is bad azz! 6th in completion % behind big ben, peyton, favre, pennington, brees

That's elite company. Elite. Remeber the buzz word of the off season, elite beeotches.

Go ahead and hate him for Vinny's mistakes you bums.

You bunch of Snyders. Positivity!

Posted by: pabrian2003 | October 14, 2009 6:51 PM | Report abuse

Anyone who thinks Campbell is going to be taking all the snaps over the next 11 games is out of their mind.

What I find downright laughable is the quickness with which any thought of playing Collins (or any other QB) is met with derision and/or anger - mostly the latter.

There is a small contingent on RI who are frightened by the possibility that Collins (or any other QB) will come in and move the team and score points, thereby dispelling the notion that JC isn't one of the problems with this team.

He is one of the problems, along with the O-line, lack of a GM and the HC.

Posted by: MrRedskin21 | October 14, 2009 6:53 PM | Report abuse

Teams do it all the time. Thats how we got D. Hall.

Posted by: scottmando | October 14, 2009 6:41 PM

Correct, we did it because we have a 2 complete morons running the team. Of course we'd do something like that for a corner who can't tackle a butt-slow quarterback.

Posted by: Poopy_McPoop | October 14, 2009 6:53 PM | Report abuse

whats quinns win loss record?

Posted by: pabrian2003 | October 14, 2009 6:54 PM | Report abuse

What's Dan Snyder's win/loss record?

Posted by: Poopy_McPoop | October 14, 2009 6:55 PM | Report abuse

No, it would never work out. Dumbskins wouldn't know how to use a real QB if they had one... which they don't... and never will... at least so long as JC continues to stink up the joint.

BENCH CAMPBELL
FIRE ZORN
FIRE CERRATO
GET RID OF PORTIS

Posted by: Vic1 | October 14, 2009 6:56 PM | Report abuse

biggest mistake of the year:
releasing jeremy bridges????

Posted by: pabrian2003 | October 14, 2009 6:57 PM | Report abuse

Why does anybody think we need a QB. Does anybody think we'd be better with Manning or Brees? We had less than 60 yards rushing against the worst rush defense in the league!!! What QB could have made that better. I'd rather have a good QB and RB behind a great OL than a great QB and RB behind a horrible line. Our line is horrible, no argument. Had we left our #4 defense alone, they would have built more chemistry and possibly improved and we could have concentrated on improving our OL. I think we'd be making a run then. As much as I am in favor of firing Zorn, this isn't his fault, but Danny needs to butt out and hir good people and let them do their jobs.

Posted by: vegasskinsfan | October 14, 2009 6:57 PM | Report abuse

I've advocated that we consider trading up 3 times in the last several years.

Joe Thomas
Calvin Johnson
Aaron Curry

Curry is obviously TBD and I think Johnson and Thomas were the same draft -- but gotta say, they all would have addressed signficant issues with this team.

Posted by: zcezcest1 | October 14, 2009 6:59 PM | Report abuse

oh one more name...In the third round the redskins select Mike Williams WR Syracuse...thank you again

Posted by: byebyesny | October 14, 2009 7:01 PM | Report abuse

Does anybody think we'd be better with Manning or Brees?

Posted by: vegasskinsfan

Me

Posted by: zcezcest1 | October 14, 2009 7:05 PM | Report abuse

Does anyone really think we'd be better with Peyton Manning at QB? He'd only last one series cuz Zorn would yank him after his first audible. Those are Zorneys rules.

Posted by: vegasskinsfan | October 14, 2009 7:06 PM | Report abuse

biggest mistake of the year:
releasing jeremy bridges????

Posted by: pabrian2003

Didn't really understand that move ... but I didn't see much of the preseason, so I'm not sure what was behind that decision.

Worst move was not drafting for the OL after picking Orakpo

Posted by: zcezcest1 | October 14, 2009 7:07 PM | Report abuse

NFL Total Access getting ready to talk about Zorn/Gruden, it appears.

If you're near a TV and have NFL Network.

Such as.

Posted by: freakzilla | October 14, 2009 7:12 PM | Report abuse

Stop talking such non-sense. Vinny and Danny don't know what forsight means, only foreskin.

Posted by: ksquare


Well, Danny is Jewish, so he was presumably only eight days old at his bris and doesn't remember it.


Oh, wait, I see what you were doing. Say, know any good ones about poop or farts?

Posted by: freakzilla | October 14, 2009 6:41 PM |

Danny smells like farts and needs to eat poop.

Posted by: scampbell1975 | October 14, 2009 7:13 PM | Report abuse

Biggest mistake of the year was not drafting a OT. Where have you been?

Posted by: edvar | October 14, 2009 7:14 PM | Report abuse

political strategist, Cambell is too old to be a back up because if you were the coach it would have to be little league

Byaaaaa

Posted by: pabrian2003 | October 14, 2009 7:22 PM | Report abuse

Campbell's holding the ball too long because you KNOW our killer receiving Corp is always open and running great patterns and never at a size disadvantage.

Let's see I'm Vinny and I'm probably going to get fired again unless I blame it on the QB, that's it, haha, everyone blames the QB.

Posted by: pabrian2003 | October 14, 2009 7:31 PM | Report abuse

edvar, I've been watching Bridges kick ass for ari. I would have taken an OT, but we had Bridges in camp aND orakpo is looking purdy good

Posted by: pabrian2003 | October 14, 2009 7:35 PM | Report abuse

Pabrian's defense of JC might have had credence 3 years ago.

Today, that argument has one leg.

But we all know that the great Pabrian has the highest football IQ of anyone on da blog, and is also the world's best fan...

Posted by: Chia_Pet | October 14, 2009 7:37 PM | Report abuse

"I'm great."

-by Pabian2003

Posted by: Chia_Pet | October 14, 2009 7:39 PM | Report abuse

Orakpo looks purdy good except for when he's in pass coverage.....

And pabrians football IQ is the 2nd highest of anyone here, only behind Barno's

Posted by: Poopy_McPoop | October 14, 2009 7:41 PM | Report abuse

Orakpo looks purdy good except for when he's in pass coverage.....

And pabrians football IQ is the 2nd highest of anyone here, only behind Barno's

Posted by: Poopy_McPoop | October 14, 2009 7:41 PM

Don't forget perineum...

Posted by: scampbell1975 | October 14, 2009 7:44 PM | Report abuse

we need an O line and all anyone can talk about is Campbell, Rodgers, and college players

Am I in some horrible nightmare where there are multiple Vinny's?

Posted by: pabrian2003 | October 14, 2009 7:45 PM | Report abuse

Damn, you're a tart.

Folks have been posting about the O Line ad nauseam.

Posted by: Chia_Pet | October 14, 2009 7:54 PM | Report abuse

so if I complain and whine and play wanna be GM will you guys love me then?

bya

Posted by: pabrian2003 | October 14, 2009 7:54 PM | Report abuse

Are we not interested like drafting 1st round o-line, not interested or like jason taylor not interested?

Posted by: alex35332 | October 14, 2009 7:55 PM | Report abuse

nO jUst sHut iT

Posted by: Chia_Pet | October 14, 2009 7:56 PM | Report abuse

Its important to mgmt that Campbell be the problem and not the OL.

Why? Because mgmt made Campbell the issue in the offseason, trying to trade him multiple times.

On the OL, mgmt acted like there was no problem at all. Yes, they brought in Dockery and off'd Kendall, one of only 2 OL that had started every game for us in 2007/8. Then mgmt brought in a bunch of question marks and unknowns -- the sort of group you might expect were playing for the last spot on a roster. Bridges may have had the best 'pedigree' of the group, and he was cut.

So if the QB fails, at least mgmt was working on the right issue. But if the OL fails, they look like idiots.

So far, looking like idiots is winning by a landslide.

Posted by: zcezcest1 | October 14, 2009 7:57 PM | Report abuse

is danny Jewish I thought he was a scientologist which explains the lack of accountability, make a bunch of money and then fly outta here on the spaceship with vinny, cruise, and travolta

Byaaaaaaborino

Posted by: pabrian2003 | October 14, 2009 8:01 PM | Report abuse

Dan Snyder is Jewish. But he is also a shmuck.

Sorry all, for every Albert Einstein we put out there we do give a Snyder too. High highs and low lows type nonsense.

Now I can't say I speak for all jewish kind, but I none the less would like to apologize for Dan Snyder.

Posted by: alex35332 | October 14, 2009 8:04 PM | Report abuse

nice czezt1, dooshes like Vinny need to blame the QB

Posted by: pabrian2003 | October 14, 2009 8:05 PM | Report abuse

Sure we'll take Quinn if the trade involves Vinny?

Posted by: DesiHungama | October 14, 2009 8:13 PM | Report abuse


Does anybody think we'd be better with Manning or Brees?

Posted by: vegasskinsfan

Me

Posted by: zcezcest1 | October 14, 2009 7:05 PM | Report abuse

So their skills at handing the ball off would improve our rushing offense?????

Posted by: vegasskinsfan | October 14, 2009 8:14 PM | Report abuse

You id10ts are arguing about the skins when real news is being made:
Panties!

Posted by: daggar | October 14, 2009 8:15 PM | Report abuse

Its important to mgmt that Campbell be the problem and not the OL.

Why? Because mgmt made Campbell the issue in the offseason, trying to trade him multiple times.

On the OL, mgmt acted like there was no problem at all. Yes, they brought in Dockery and off'd Kendall, one of only 2 OL that had started every game for us in 2007/8. Then mgmt brought in a bunch of question marks and unknowns -- the sort of group you might expect were playing for the last spot on a roster. Bridges may have had the best 'pedigree' of the group, and he was cut.

So if the QB fails, at least mgmt was working on the right issue. But if the OL fails, they look like idiots.

So far, looking like idiots is winning by a landslide.

Posted by: zcezcest1 | October 14, 2009 7:57 PM |
-------------------------------

It apparently never occurs to the RI experts that the problem is both the O-line AND Jason Campbell. The two needn't be mutually exclusive.

The team also needs a GM and a HC.

But since the OL, GM and HC probably won't be addressed until the offseason (if they're addressed at all), I'd start with benching Jason Campbell and letting someone else take the wheel for a while.

If JC is as good as some people think, then he'll bounce back from the benching and prove all the doubters wrong.

Right?

Posted by: MrRedskin21 | October 14, 2009 8:21 PM | Report abuse

An immobile Todd Collin will be seriously injured behind this line.

Posted by: mack1 | October 14, 2009 8:32 PM | Report abuse

I don't want to bench Soup.
I do want to find out if WR-TE-WR is as bad as they are because of coach/QB, or Vinnie buying all the lemons. I'm not sure how the Todd could help with that at this point, but I do think we're going to find out at some point in the next couple of weeks.

Posted by: daggar | October 14, 2009 8:37 PM | Report abuse

Sources: the redskins are a f-ing joke

Posted by: BrooklynSkins | October 14, 2009 8:39 PM | Report abuse

PEOPLE, please stop this bench Campbell nonsense. He is a viable QB while not running for his life. He's an accurate passer.

COLLINS WOULD GET KILLED BC HE CAN'T MOVE. I THINK VIRGINIA TECH WOULD BEAT THIS O-LINE. BUD FOSTER WOULD CHEW UP THIS PRACTICE SQUAD OF AN OFFENSIVE LINE!!!

CLEGG

Posted by: michael_b_clegg | October 14, 2009 8:42 PM | Report abuse

Here is a great stat for you.

45% of CP's runs have been 2 yds or less!!!

Think about that. If a man that is 5ft 10 falls down, that is almost 2 yards. He has no room to run. ( Even though he has lost a step or two )

CLEGG

Posted by: michael_b_clegg | October 14, 2009 8:46 PM | Report abuse

BUD FOSTER WOULD CHEW UP THIS PRACTICE SQUAD OF AN OFFENSIVE LINE!!!

I don't know who that is, but can he block?

Posted by: daggar | October 14, 2009 8:47 PM | Report abuse

I mean, chewing them up sounds painful and all, but if he can chew up linemen, can we have him chew CowPie DLs up instead?

Posted by: daggar | October 14, 2009 8:51 PM | Report abuse

collins has quicker reads and release offsetting immobility, the proof is 2 yrs ago--plus jc isn't killin teams with his legs anyway.

Posted by: mohawk44 | October 14, 2009 8:56 PM | Report abuse

Mohawk,

Only difference is Collins knew Al Saunders offense and was in that offense for many years. That offense was designed to throw to a "SPOT" on the field. Some similarities to the WCO, but not the same offense.

CLEGG

Posted by: michael_b_clegg | October 14, 2009 9:01 PM | Report abuse

This and Mike Williams not exploding is the best news to come out of Skins Park in a month. Well that and Hunter Smith's TD.

Which isn't saying much.

Posted by: WorstSeat | October 14, 2009 9:02 PM | Report abuse

moss summed it up; "after 5 yrs. jc and i still aren't on the same page". aka it will never happen.

Posted by: mohawk44 | October 14, 2009 9:02 PM | Report abuse

Daggar,

Bud Foster is the D-Coordinator for the Hokies.

CLEGG

Posted by: michael_b_clegg | October 14, 2009 9:03 PM | Report abuse

"Here is a great stat for you. 45% of CP's runs have been 2 yds or less!!!Think about that. If a man that is 5ft 10 falls down, that is almost 2 yards. He has no room to run. ( Even though he has lost a step or two )CLEGG"

I don't find that stat particularly meaningful. You can divide runners into two types: those who break long runs but also get stuffed at the line of scrimmage on many occasions; and those who seldom break a long one but almost never lose yardage. Portis is the second type, a back like Leon Washington of the Jets is the first type. Til this season, Portis' has had a good record of getting the number of yards needed, while breaking few long runs. It's the type of back he is. I can affirm that many coaches prefer that type of 'chain-mover' at tailback.

Posted by: Samson151 | October 14, 2009 9:04 PM | Report abuse

Samson,

That stat should be very meaningful b/c CP is a career 4.5 yd a carry RB. I think it is not only an indictment on the line but on CP as well.

CLEGG

Posted by: michael_b_clegg | October 14, 2009 9:08 PM | Report abuse

how about chris peterson as a coach next year

Posted by: mohawk44 | October 14, 2009 9:21 PM | Report abuse

C'mon, ya'll really think with a "drafted" O-lineman, Campbell would be better.

Campbell is not an elite QB!!!!

Posted by: rickyroge | October 14, 2009 9:30 PM | Report abuse

Ricky,

The problem is there are 2 or 3 "elite" QB's in this league. That means 29 or 30 "Non-elite" QB's... I don't anticipate any of the Colleg Sr's this year to be "elite". I will stick with SOUPS with an upgraded line anyday. We could be doing much-much worse.

CLEGG

Posted by: michael_b_clegg | October 14, 2009 9:34 PM | Report abuse

Vinny fired yet?? No?!?!?!? Alright, I'll check in next week around this time.

Posted by: scoot21 | October 14, 2009 9:37 PM | Report abuse

Johnny Carson marries a real live witch ... but he can't get her pregnant? Why? Because he has a Halloweener ...

Posted by: periculum | October 14, 2009 9:39 PM | Report abuse

Vinny fired yet?? No?!?!?!? Alright, I'll check in next week around this time.

Posted by: scoot21 | October 14, 2009

Danny would have to fire himself to fire Vinny.

Posted by: periculum | October 14, 2009 9:42 PM | Report abuse

Even with a good oline JC is still gonna suck!! Hey, look what Sonny Jurgensen said!! This is from DC Sports Bog: Jurgensen: Skins Would Have Started 4-0 With Collins

Sonny Jurgensen wasn't shy about calling for him to be benched. By the next week, he was taking it further, telling Kevin Sheehan during ESPN 980's pre-game show that he thought the Redskins would have started the season 4-0 with Todd Collins at the controls.

Now who wants to question the great Sonny Jurgensen??!

http://voices.washingtonpost.com/dcsportsbog/2009/10/jurgensen_skins_would_have_sta.html#comments

Posted by: rachel216 | October 14, 2009 9:48 PM | Report abuse

This just in to our news room. The Associated Press is reporting that Jim Zorn has taken a job as the head football coach for Spotsylvania High School.

Posted by: getitritegov | October 14, 2009 9:51 PM | Report abuse

Because Collins goes to the right place with the ball all the time.

-Sonny said that!!

Posted by: rachel216 | October 14, 2009 9:51 PM | Report abuse

I will question Sonny. Come on. Sonny is half lit w/ Riggo and Huff much of the time. Jason isn't perfect, but to say he sucks is silly. Batiste ( prac squad ) Heyer ( back up at best ) Mike Williams ( hasn't played at a high level since he was at Texas ) Rinehart ( won't be on this roster next year ) Dockery ( waste of money b/c he can't block worth crap ) Rabach ( serviceable, but aging )

You tell me how many QBs would still complete 68% with has to be the worst O LINE IN FOOTBALL!!!! GET REAL!

CLEGG

Posted by: michael_b_clegg | October 14, 2009 9:54 PM | Report abuse

This just in to our news room. Another report from the Associated Press states that Jim Zorn at 11 pm tonight is doing throw the bag at the QB drills with 3 Spotsylvania High School quarterbacks.

Posted by: getitritegov | October 14, 2009 9:55 PM | Report abuse

Because Collins goes to the right place with the ball all the time.

-Sonny said that!!

Rachel, even Sonny, and especially Sonny would get sacked behind this line. He'd have no chance. I doubt that Collins would either. Yes, even if he did complete more passes, he because of the rush he would throw more interceptions. Sonny had many choice things to say about Joe Theismann, Mark Rypien, Jay Schroeder ... just to name a few. And they couldn't say much because he is a Hall of Fame QB.

Keep in mind what is often said here. Sonny has Snyder's ear, and is known to often share good cigars and snifters with the guy. He may just be pushing the party line for all we know. It tends to vector attention away from the very serious mistakes Snyder made. As in not drafting offensive linemen on a consistent basis.

Posted by: periculum | October 14, 2009 9:57 PM | Report abuse

C'mon, ya'll really think with a "drafted" O-lineman, Campbell would be better.

Campbell is not an elite QB!!!!

Posted by: rickyroge

I guess Joe Thomas or Jake Long didn't sure up that position immediately as rookies. Campbell doesn't have to be elite. Even when we were winning championships we had average QBs.

Posted by: dcwun | October 14, 2009 9:59 PM | Report abuse

Sonny is half lit w/ Riggo and Huff much of the time.

All they need is Billy the K and the Toddle House and they'd be quite a crew. Wonder if the "Bone" was ever in on that?

Posted by: periculum | October 14, 2009 9:59 PM | Report abuse

Clegg...


Does JC hold the ball too long?
Does JC lock in receivers?
Has JC led a game winning drive in 5 years?


Posted by: rickyroge | October 14, 2009 10:00 PM | Report abuse

This just in to our news room. The Associated Press is reporting that Dan Snyder was last seen at Macy's trying on a size 5 pair of elevator shoes and that Vinnie was at GW Hospital getting a brain transplant.

Posted by: getitritegov | October 14, 2009 10:00 PM | Report abuse

You tell me how many QBs would still complete 68% with has to be the worst O LINE IN FOOTBALL!!!! GET REAL!

CLEGG

Posted by: michael_b_clegg

The answer is none! Brees, Brady, and Peyton would stink behind a line that starts 2 undrafted free agents and a dude that hasn't played in the league since 2005.

Posted by: dcwun | October 14, 2009 10:03 PM | Report abuse

Because Collins goes to the right place with the ball all the time.

-Sonny said that!!

Posted by: rachel216 | October 14, 2009 9:51 PM | Report abuse

Collins will have the same 2.1 to 2.9 seconds to find the right place for the ball. His arm is not stronger and his legs are not faster. Behind this so called line, you think an older, immobile, average arm is a solution?

Posted by: k_square | October 14, 2009 10:04 PM | Report abuse

This just in to our news room. The Associated Press is reporting that Dan Snyder's plane is leaving Tokyo, Japan. Onboard are 4 four pound sumo wrestlers who will play O-line Sunday against the Chiefs. The Japan Sumo Wrestling Association is the Offical Sumo Association of the Washington Redskins.

Posted by: getitritegov | October 14, 2009 10:04 PM | Report abuse

Ricky,

I'm not saying the guy is without faults, but the criticism that he's getting is silly.
We had the most dropped passes of any team last year. FACT

Game winning drive... HOW DOES SUNDAY'S GAME TURN OUT IF DEVIN THOMAS CATCHES A BALL THAT FELL IN HIS HANDS? ( is that Campbells fault? )

WE HAVE THE 25th RANKED RUSHING OFFENSE: FACT

Does that effect the passing game?

CLEGG

Posted by: michael_b_clegg | October 14, 2009 10:05 PM | Report abuse

Rickyroge,

Did Mark Rypien hold the ball too long? Did Mark Rypien often fumble on center snap? Was Mark Rypien a total clutz who often tripped over the feet of his own lineman? Did Mark Rypien win a Superbowl MVP?

Its not like we haven't heard this before? With Gus, Heath, and Ramsey?

Has JC led a game winning drive in 5 years?
I thought he did pretty well against Singletary and SF in the final game last year.


GET A REAL LINE and the offense WILL BE FINE.

Posted by: periculum | October 14, 2009 10:06 PM | Report abuse

Does JC hold the ball too long?
Does JC lock in receivers?
Has JC led a game winning drive in 5 years?

Posted by: rickyroge | October 14, 2009 10:00 PM | Report abuse

Does JC have wide receivers that get ANY separation?
Does JC have enough time in the pocket to use "lock on WR's"

Game winning drive? Last year against Saints at home. Pinned deep in their end, led drive late in 4th, threw a beautiful bomb to Moss in stride for GW touch. I was there. It was nice!

Posted by: k_square | October 14, 2009 10:10 PM | Report abuse

Funny stuff, getitritegov. :-)

Posted by: freakzilla | October 14, 2009 10:14 PM | Report abuse

PERI, K_Square,

Let's remember this next year when Soups is not hear and people are wishing the big arm and the accuracy was back.... When all of these non-football whiners are crying about a QB who doesn't have time to get through a progression... Guess what, I'd lock on to someone as well for my Health's sake.

CLEGG

Posted by: michael_b_clegg | October 14, 2009 10:16 PM | Report abuse

Don't forget perineum...
Posted by: scampbell1975 | October 14, 2009

scramble1975 == DanielSnyder here's the evidence:

It was one of my worst moves,” he says. β€œIt was plain stupid. I was a new owner pissed about losing.”


Can't stand it that I am right ... and he is totally and completely wrong with his prediction. But he always did suffer from delusions of grandeur. Kind-a-like Snidely Owl? Ehe Dan is that you? How's the wife?

Posted by: periculum | October 14, 2009 10:18 PM | Report abuse

This just in, ScrambleBrain1975's RI WIKI: http://redskinsinsiders.wetpaint.com:
Sometime home of one crew or another of lamers and wannabees who aspire to be the next GM/owner of the Redskins but lack even the dim flicker of sentience needed to qualify.

Posted by: periculum | October 14, 2009 10:22 PM | Report abuse

I'm glad you're certain, because I'm not. Offense is -- in my mind -- about the relationship between the coach and the QB. If they're on the same page, and the coach truly understands his team's strengths and weaknesses, you can overcome a little/lot of marginal talent elsewhere.
And I don't think the QB has to be either Brady or Peyton to make it happen -- but I'm totally unconvinced that Zorn --> Campbell is ever going to amount to anything useful.
For this, I blame Zorn for not using JC in the most effective manner, and for that I blame Snyder for hiring someone who isn't ready for the job. But it's pretty clear which one is going to be sauntering off to the sunset.

Posted by: daggar | October 14, 2009 10:22 PM | Report abuse

AP Reporting:

Dan Synder meeting with Jim Bob and Michelle Duggar. Sources close to the situation have confirmed that Mr. Synder is meeting with the Duggar Family (currently of the TLC hit tv show 18 Kids and Counting) about forming a partnership. The partnership will revolve around the Duggars producing offensive linemen for the Redskins, atleast one per year. Says Mr. Synder, "This is a fantastic day for the Redskins organization and it's fans. With this partnership and the way Michelle and Jim Bob like to crank out the babies, the Redskins will undoubtedly have a surplus of offensive linemen for many, many years to come."

Posted by: Poopy_McPoop | October 14, 2009 10:23 PM | Report abuse

For all you that are wasting your time with taint biy...er...perineum, don't bother, he's a moron AND a liar...

here's his post from last night:

My prediction was 4-12. Because well before the season all the signs pointed to Thomas and Samuels not making it through 16 games. And then what? Man, how is it that you couldn't see that?

Posted by: periculum | October 13, 2009 10:16 PM |


here's his actual 3 different predictions from the preseason:

Posted by: periculum | April 14, 2009 8:42 PM
see 5 wins 11 losses.

Best case scenario: 6W-10L.

7-9, 6-10. Unless the too many things that need to go right happen, in other words: a miracle happens.
Posted by: periculum | May 21, 2009 6:12 PM | Report abuse


He's a liar and a retard

Posted by: scampbell1975 | October 14, 2009 10:23 PM | Report abuse

Ah ScrambleBrain1975 did you paint your taint? Because your prediction looks so waaaaaaaaaaaaaay off and well mine look pretty accurate all around now don't they? It really gets to you doesn't it? Ah go back to painting your taint.
scampbell1975: Put your predictions for the 2009 season here. I've got an early estimate of 9-7 while reserving the right to move to 10-6 before the season starts depending on the draft. I would have to have a 1st round starting OL to change to 10-6. Those are my numbers for now, it's early but that's how I see it.
After preseason and the Oline looks better than I thought so now going 10-6. Yes I'm fickle on this but it's in writing.

Posted by: periculum | October 14, 2009 10:32 PM | Report abuse

we've got a losing squad, why be scared to try a different look at qb--it can't get worse.

Posted by: mohawk44 | October 14, 2009 10:35 PM | Report abuse

Oh ... Scramble ... brain ... 1975 ... Do you paint your taint and your bald spot? Paint your taint and your bald spot? Your web site is moronic and you are such a idiot. You must be related to Snyder if you aren't Snyder.

Posted by: periculum | October 14, 2009 10:35 PM | Report abuse

Don't worry with Colt down ... Collins will be playing soon enough ...

Posted by: periculum | October 14, 2009 10:37 PM | Report abuse

Collins will be in b/c Jason is going to get busted up pretty good when we start playing good teams.

Then we will be bringing Trent Dilfer out of retirement.

That should be the new poll:
"WHO WILL THE REDSKINS BRING IN AS THE 3rd QB?" Because we will need one.

CLEGG

Posted by: michael_b_clegg | October 14, 2009 10:40 PM | Report abuse

Worst move was not drafting for the OL after picking Orakpo

Posted by: zcezcest1 | October 14, 2009

Clearly dumping Springs and even MWash were the mistakes ... (Orapko may yet replace him ... hopefully. The jury is still out.) AND NOT drafting left tackles instead of Orapko and a cornerback.

Posted by: periculum | October 14, 2009 10:40 PM | Report abuse

we've got a losing squad, why be scared to try a different look at qb--it can't get worse.

Posted by: mohawk44 | October 14, 2009 10:35 PM | Report abuse

It's not scared, just an admission of failure. Change for the sake of change is not always a good thing.

A different look would be taking any healthy big body from the d line and throwing them on the O Line.

Back up D Tackles on the O Line. Now how could that be worse than what they will be trotting out there this Sunday?

Posted by: k_square | October 14, 2009 10:44 PM | Report abuse

J Reid, hopefully you are reporting this about Quinn to point out the irony that the skins are also not interested in any OL out there as well. Just trying to make some sense out of this as a blog topic. btw, you're welcome.

Posted by: jenksredskins | October 14, 2009 10:48 PM | Report abuse

Nice try perineum...you're called out as the liar and no amount of attempted misdirection will get you your credibility back. See I'm alright with my predictions being wrong, I still stand by them. I made them and I won't attempt to pawn myself off as some sort of know it all by saying that I predicted something else while I didn't. You, on the other hand, are a liar and therefore anything that you say is suspect. Shoulda just sacked up and told the truth but you had to try to play the bigshot. Well it backfired (that's what usually happens when you have the IQ of someone with a full frontal lobotomy. Your words mean nothing and I will keep showing you for the fraud that you are.

Posted by: scampbell1975 | October 14, 2009 10:52 PM | Report abuse

if you keep doing the same thing in failure, players stop caring and losing gets contageous. like when a. pierce said playing the raiders was like a scrimmage bc the players didn't care about sacks, missed plays, etc.

Posted by: mohawk44 | October 14, 2009 10:53 PM | Report abuse

Nice try perineum...you're called out as the liar and no amount of attempted misdirection will get you your credibility back. See I'm alright with my predictions being wrong ...

Paint your taint, and your bald spot scramblybrain1975? PAINT YOUR STANKY STINKY TAINT and your BALD SPOT? I know its hard for to be at 5'3" and weight 320 pounds ... but it is what it is?

Posted by: periculum | October 14, 2009 10:55 PM | Report abuse

Oh...and by the way...about 100 different RI'ers built that website, I am merely 1 of many contributors. So how nice of you to call half the people on here moronic. I believe (and I may be wrong) the first post on the wiki was a Sean Taylor memorial.

Posted by: scampbell1975 | October 14, 2009 10:56 PM | Report abuse

Oh...and by the way...about 100 different RI'ers built that website, I am merely 1 of many contributors.

And unfortunately YOU use THEIR SITE in your moronic and crude attempts to poke fun at me ... all because scramblebrain1975 PAINT'S HIS STINKY STANKY TAINT and HIS BALD SPOT.

Posted by: periculum | October 14, 2009 10:59 PM | Report abuse

ScramblybrainSnyder1975: After preseason and the Oline looks better than I thought so now going 10-6. Yes I'm fickle on this but it's in writing.

Paint your taint and your baldspot? PAINT YOUR tAINt and YOUR BALDSPOT?

Posted by: periculum | October 14, 2009 11:01 PM | Report abuse

Oh...and by the way...about 100 different RI'ers built that website, I am merely 1 of many contributors.

And unfortunately YOU use THEIR SITE in your moronic and crude attempts to poke fun at me ... all because scramblebrain1975 PAINT'S HIS STINKY STANKY TAINT and HIS BALD SPOT.
Posted by: periculum | October 14, 2009 10:59 PM

Yep bald and 320 lbs alright. Still telling lies. Oh by the way, my picture is on the wiki members page too. Shot down another one of your lies. What a child.

Posted by: scampbell1975 | October 14, 2009 11:02 PM | Report abuse

Yep bald and 320 lbs alright. Still telling lies. Oh by the way, my picture is on the wiki members page too. Shot down another one of your lies. What a child.

PAINT YOUR TAINT and YOUR BALD SPOT ... or are you doing some photoshopping on your website? PAINT YOUR TAINT AND YOUR BALD SPOT.

Posted by: periculum | October 14, 2009 11:05 PM | Report abuse

Ladies, Ladies..... let's BOGO nice......

Peri ( separating u ) and 1975

CLEGG

Posted by: michael_b_clegg | October 14, 2009 11:05 PM | Report abuse

And unfortunately YOU use THEIR SITE in your moronic and crude attempts to poke fun at me ... all because scramblebrain1975 PAINT'S HIS STINKY STANKY TAINT and HIS BALD SPOT.
Posted by: periculum | October 14, 2009 10:59 PM

So which one is it? Is it mine or is it theirs? Get your story straight tool.

Posted by: scampbell1975 | October 14, 2009 11:06 PM | Report abuse

So which one is it? Is it mine or is it theirs? Get your story straight tool.

Posted by: scampbell1975 | October 14, 2009

PAINT YOUR TAINT and YOUR PHOTO SHOPPED BALD SPOT?

Posted by: periculum | October 14, 2009 11:08 PM | Report abuse

stay medium

Posted by: mohawk44 | October 14, 2009 11:10 PM | Report abuse

From scramblysnyderbrain1975's website: perineum the liar His claims so far this year:

PAINT YOUR TAINT and YOUR PHOTO SHOPPED BALD SPOT?

Posted by: periculum | October 14, 2009 11:10 PM | Report abuse

I can't help the fact that he's a lying d0uce Clegg. I just called him on it and that made him furious. His big boy on the blog self envisioned status has been tarnished and he's trying very hard to discredit me for calling him on it. Problem is all of his typing is immortalized in 0's and 1's but he's not smart enough to understand that. So now we have the childish ramblings of a prepubescent girl who's boyfriend was just stolen by her best friend.

Posted by: scampbell1975 | October 14, 2009 11:11 PM | Report abuse

scramblybrain1975 still at it: I can't help the fact that he's a lying d0uce Clegg. I just called him on it and that made him furious. His big boy on the blog self envisioned status ...

SO HE CERTAINLY MUST PAINT HIS TAINT and HIS BALD SPOT!

Posted by: periculum | October 14, 2009 11:13 PM | Report abuse

SCRAMBLYSNYDERPAL1975: PAINT YOUR TAINT AND YOUR BALD SPOT?

Posted by: periculum | October 14, 2009 11:15 PM | Report abuse

SCRAMBLYSNYDERPAL1975: PAINT YOUR TAINT AND YOUR BALD SPOT?

Posted by: periculum | October 14, 2009 11:15 PM | Report abuse

See what I mean? He just keeps saying the same stupid crap over and over. It's really quite sad but alas is the life of a shut in who's mommy has taken his underoos and Barbie's away.

Posted by: scampbell1975 | October 14, 2009 11:16 PM | Report abuse

I'm pretty sure periculum used to be a regular listener to Don and Mike on WJFK, because that "paint your bald spot" line frequently came up. I listened during a couple of summers in college, and they often played tape of some guy calling into Larry King, haranguing him about whether he painted his bald spot.

Posted by: freakzilla | October 14, 2009 11:16 PM | Report abuse

SCRAMBLYSNYDERPAL1975: PAINT YOUR TAINT AND YOUR BALD SPOT?

Posted by: periculum | October 14, 2009 11:18 PM | Report abuse

Peri.... you have officially broken the blog tonight..... we need a beep beep

Goodnight RI!

CLEGG

Posted by: michael_b_clegg | October 14, 2009 11:18 PM | Report abuse

Unless...unless periculum is actually Don Geronimo. (Definitely not Mike O'Meara.)

Posted by: freakzilla | October 14, 2009 11:19 PM | Report abuse

I'm pretty sure periculum used to be a regular listener to Don and Mike on WJFK,

Actually Freakzilla, it was Howard Stern ... seems to have had the same effect ... no?

Posted by: periculum | October 14, 2009 11:19 PM | Report abuse

I could be Howard Stern ... although I now wonder if RedDMV knows me ... hmmmm

Posted by: periculum | October 14, 2009 11:22 PM | Report abuse

Posted by: scampbell1975 | October 14, 2009 11:23 PM | Report abuse

Sorry, m_b_clegg I'll try to behave myself ... just couldn't resist attempting that old routine from Babba Looey and company ...

Posted by: periculum | October 14, 2009 11:24 PM | Report abuse

Jason,

Can you do some reasearch and see how many other NFL quarterbacks have had to learn as many new offenses in as short a time as Cambell and with as little experience?

I just can't see why so many are blaming him for so much.

Thanks.

Posted by: Redskinrex | October 14, 2009 11:41 PM | Report abuse

No news is... good news?

Posted by: NateinthePDX | October 15, 2009 12:27 AM | Report abuse

Nate....the good news is hopefully periculum has gone nighty night. Jesus, that guy is a tart.

Posted by: k_square | October 15, 2009 12:30 AM | Report abuse

Jason while your at it, is it common for teams in professional football to have to game-plan around an offensive line, so inferior in talent, that the head coach is concerned their inferiority could get the starting qb seriously hurt?

Posted by: The_Spear | October 15, 2009 12:32 AM | Report abuse

Yeah, ksquare, what the hell was that? Sheesh...

Posted by: NateinthePDX | October 15, 2009 12:57 AM | Report abuse


Brian Schottenheimer

Posted by: TheCork | October 15, 2009 1:11 AM | Report abuse

Hey, Mountain/Pacific time zone peeps, I have this incredibly stupid idea to go see the Skins-Raiders game in Oakland. It's the closest the Skins will get to Portland this season, until their playoff game at Seattle, of course (cough, cough).

Misery loves company, see. I've already reached out to some of the Bay Area peeps about this, and some of my homies up here in the Pac NW.

If you're interested in this -- and again I will admit up front that it's an incredibly dumb idea, but by the same token I know there are a bunch of addicts/masochists out there who will probably give this some thought -- drop me a line at nateinthepdx at gmail

Posted by: NateinthePDX | October 15, 2009 1:34 AM | Report abuse

I believe what Nate is trying to say is, "I think we have to go all out. I think that this situation absolutely requires a really futile and stupid gesture be done on somebody's part."

Posted by: freakzilla | October 15, 2009 2:53 AM | Report abuse

I wonder if D-Day could block?

Posted by: daggar | October 15, 2009 3:14 AM | Report abuse

What's all the argument about Campbell?
What does it matter?
We can all agree he's not Montana. Neither is Collins. What about it? Who cares?

Might as well argue about whether Doughty is better than Horton.

It has as much impact, really. Actually, probably more since the D is on the field most of the time.

We have no O Line (though I'm still holding out for some miraculous "chemistry" and "gelling" on Sunday). That's the problem.

Oh, we could also argue about whether we should use Betts on 3rd downs. See that as being an issue? I mean, if Portis had all the 3rd downs, we'd be 5-0, right?

Sonny told me that.

By the way, I'd LOVE to see Brady Quinn behind our line. It would serve him right for campaigning for McCain/Palin. Actually, it would take Zorn about 6 years to trust him with "the terminology" and "getting up to speed."

Up to Speed?!?!
Jeez, that's scary. According to Master Kane, we've got guys that are still trying to "get up to speed." I think Zorn better get his coaching skills "up to speed," but it doesn't matter. He's gone. Yesterday.

Hip Hip, Oh Sh*t!

Posted by: Thinker_ | October 15, 2009 6:04 AM | Report abuse

There once was a team said Hip Hip.

But some winless teams fattened their lip.

Their offense was tired,

Their head coach got fired,

Their attendance had taken a dip.

Posted by: Thinker_ | October 15, 2009 6:09 AM | Report abuse

I recall a team back in the day,

When they won, they said Hip Hip Hooray.

It was so long ago,

That emotional show,

All the players forgot how to play.

Posted by: Thinker_ | October 15, 2009 6:12 AM | Report abuse

There once was a team called the Chiefs.

Who stunk like a thousand wet quiffs.

But when they beat the Skins,

Twas the first of their wins

Thus, they shattered all hopes and beliefs.

Posted by: Thinker_ | October 15, 2009 6:19 AM | Report abuse

There once was a QB named Campbell.

Who, in the pocket had no room to ramble.

But the Chiefs made him flee,

As they blitzed him with glee.

Constant pressure forced Campbell to scramble.

Posted by: Thinker_ | October 15, 2009 6:27 AM | Report abuse

There once was a head coach named Zornie.

From his interview, Snyder got horny.

So he gave him the power,

Went and took a cold shower,

That's why everything's gotten quite thorny.

Posted by: Thinker_ | October 15, 2009 6:37 AM | Report abuse

There once was a fat-a55 named Sonny.

In his way, he was usually funny.

As the Redskins went south,

Sonny opened his mouth,

And said stuff that was right on the money.

Posted by: Thinker_ | October 15, 2009 6:41 AM | Report abuse

Bradford or Tebow would be a bad move... no QB in spread offense has ever been successful in NFL. Alex Smith??

I'm looking at current QB's... I think Vick is sounding better & better... hope Philly lets him walk... Vick is already putting stuff out there stating he hopes they don't pick up his option cause he wants to be starting QB.

Posted by: tony325 | October 14, 2009 5:19 PM | Report abuse

Oklahoma is not a true Spread Offense, I'd say they are very different from anything that Florida, West Virginia or other well known spread teams run. Plus Bradford is a very efficient passer, which is important.


The problem is you need to give a young guy a good O-line. I'd rather draft a top of the like OT in the 1st and then see whether a decent QB is there in the early second round, worse comes to worse we can always trade back into the 1st to snag someone. Personally I Kind of like LeFavour (sp?) But he actually runs a Spread offense. I think Colt McCoy is too much like a young Mark Brunnel honestly.

Posted by: Veretax | October 15, 2009 7:17 AM | Report abuse

Still reeling from a 41-0 loss at Seattle, Jacksonville Jaguars running back Maurice Jones-Drew lashed out at the team's play-calling, its lack of offensive identity and its constant shuffling of offensive linemen.

Those that saying that it isn't the o line but JC. I guess Jones-Drew doesn't know what he is talking about when he says the shuffling of the o line is has caused them problems.

Posted by: jm220 | October 15, 2009 7:37 AM | Report abuse

they can fall in love with Bradford all they want i can see bradford coming back for his fifth year senior eligibility if he can get it, because of his shoulder injury if i have a choice, to make between sam Bradford colt MCCoy, and tony pike which direction do you think, the skins are going to go let's face it, it doesn't matter which one they choose, unless they upgrade that oline, to the point where his not gonna lost his confidence, because the oline can't protect him, or the running game isn't strong enough, to give him a security blanket which falls bak on the oline again.

Posted by: rmnkevorkian | October 15, 2009 7:58 AM | Report abuse

OK. That's enough talk of "other" QBs.

You're upsetting the Campbell Fainters.

Posted by: MrRedskin21 | October 15, 2009 8:05 AM | Report abuse

Formula for success:

Hire GM.
GM fires Vinny.
GM picks head coach.
GM picks players.
Players win.
Owner enjoys winning, eats shrimp, smokes cigars, stays the f@!k out of way.
Repeat steps 4-6.

Posted by: Kenbeatrizz | October 15, 2009 8:05 AM | Report abuse

RIP Captain Lou Albano!!!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YJNrsNe54AE

Prolly wouldn't like wrastlin' weren't 4 him.

...NRBQ roks a little, too... hehe.

Posted by: DikShuttle | October 15, 2009 8:08 AM | Report abuse

"There's a kid named Campbell that's puttin up some pretty good numbers

Posted by: pabrian2003 | October 14, 2009 4:55 PM"

Yup he's got 5 more TDs than his punter (who has been out for a week), and was TRAILING that same punter in TDs scored for 2 weeks of the season...

damn that's FRANCHISE Quality QB-ing there...

that same punter showed FAR better legs and scrambling ability so Campbell's " natural athleticism" is really showing it's fangs too...

You want "good numbers" I've got "good numbers" for you.

2009 Stats

Marc Bulger 56.0% QB rating 81.4

Matt Cassel 58.5% QB Rating 85.1

Kyle Orton 63.0% QB Rating 97.4 [7 TD 1 INT]

David Garrard 59.2% QB rating 86.6 [5 TD 1 INT]

Matt Hasslebeck 63.1% QB Rating 103.1 [5 TD 1 INT [3 FREAKIN GAMES he has as many TDs an LESS INTs than JC]

Matt Schaub 64.2% QB Rating 97.9 [10 TD 4 INTs]

I didn't even pick any of the "known good" QBs, I in fact went 180 degrees the opposite...just to prove my point.

Good Numbers = 5-0, 4-1, 3-2

You don't want to play that "good numbers" game... 'cause even THAT b-s doesn't make Campbell better than half a@$ed.


Campbell is not the sum cause of the teams offensive problems, but his deficiencies (and there are MANY) sure as heck exaccerbate the other ones.

Posted by: ThinkingMan | October 15, 2009 4:52 PM | Report abuse

Collins this year.. Colt next year..

Posted by: sovine08 | October 15, 2009 5:35 PM | Report abuse

"Yup he's got 5 more TDs than his punter (who has been out for a week), and was TRAILING that same punter in TDs scored for 2 weeks of the season...

damn that's FRANCHISE Quality QB-ing there..."

- - Posted by: ThinkingMan | October 15, 2009 4:52 PM

___________________________________________

Actually, he TIED the Punter the same game... With a TD pass to Cooley.

Anyway, doesn't matter. Put Collins in... He'll be out in a quarter. Teams know we can't run, so they play for the pass rush. Luckily for them, we can't pass protect either.

QB on his tookis. Colt is half the problem here. You'd think by now he'd "Be up to speed" but as he showed in the Preseason, he is not. And now, he's having his second hip replacement in two years. Lot of confidence in the future for us.

Not.

Posted by: Thinker_ | October 15, 2009 10:24 PM | Report abuse

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