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Random Observations at Redskins Park

A few observations and thoughts after today's first session under the clouds in Ashburn:

The workout was in shorts and shells, which the players appreciate even on an overcast day.

After watching Albert Haynesworth work against guard Derrick Dockery the past two days, I think Haynesworth can play a little.

DeAngelo Hall seems to try to make a play on every ball.

Chris Samuels has slimmed down and is moving well again after surgery.

Mike Williams had another tough time in pass protection.


The Redskins really want Devin Thomas to seize an opportunity and earn that starting flanker spot opposite split end Santana Moss.

Fred Davis seems to be running routes a lot better than he did in practice last season.

Maybe it's just me, but is there anyone on this roster with more pure talent than LaRon Landry?

Brian Orakpo's schedule is about to get a lot busier as he works at strong-side linebacker and end.

The crowds at the complex seem smaller to me than last season, but I don't remember things as well as I once did.

Jason Campbell has room for improvement in some areas, but No. 17 sure throws a nice deep ball.

Casey Rabach is a consummate professional.

Ladell Betts could be a bigger part of the offense than he was last season.

After retiring because of a neck injury, good guy James Thrash accepted a job with the organization and is at camp.

Phillip Daniels still could be a force against the run.

Is Tanner Cooley becoming as big a celebrity in these parts as his pass-catching brother?

By Jason Reid  |  July 31, 2009; 12:35 PM ET
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Comments

We need a miracle with the offensive line.

Posted by: peterandmeredith | July 31, 2009 12:42 PM | Report abuse

First!

Posted by: SkinsFanCT7 | July 31, 2009 12:42 PM | Report abuse

I'm not sure we necessarily need a miracle on the offensive line. I think that it's nice having some depth at guard with Thomas and Dockery starting and having Rinehart supposedly improving with guys like Bridges also there at Guard could be nice (Bridges hopefully being the 1st option). Also, it is early. Williams and Heyer have a little bit of time to adjust and make improvements. I hope either Heyer improves or we see some big strides from Williams. It's not out of the question.

Posted by: SkinsFanCT7 | July 31, 2009 12:45 PM | Report abuse

All you people callin' first need to be beepin on the previous thread. It's tradition and courteous.

Posted by: scampbell1975 | July 31, 2009 12:46 PM | Report abuse

Jason, I am liking your reporting, which is to the point and useful. Keep it up.

Posted by: northvajim1 | July 31, 2009 12:49 PM | Report abuse

Maybe it's just me, but is there anyone on this roster with more pure talent than LaRon Landry?

Dirty thirty baby? Bring the wood!!

Posted by: jm220 | July 31, 2009 12:50 PM | Report abuse

"...but No. 17 sure throws a nice deep ball."

Jim Zorn, are you listening? Maybe throw more than two deep passes a game? Of course, if the right tackles are just waving guys in, Campbell won't have time to get a deep one out of there...

As I have been saying all along, getting down to a playing weight was only one of the hurdles Mike Williams faced when he signed. He was close to this weight when he won the moniker of "under achiever" with Buffalo and Jacksonville. Let's hope his pass blocking improves. Heyer is definitely the better pass blocker. He can probably win the job based on this fact alone, but he needs to get better at run blocking. It was nice to hear that he and Thomas opened a hole for Betts against the defensive starters.

I know this sounds crazy, but has there been any part of practice where Landry has been slotted at strong safety? If so, who played free safety?

Posted by: RedSkinHead | July 31, 2009 12:51 PM | Report abuse

tyvm, Scampbell'75! Beeps much appurchitated.

I actually don't like some of what I'm hearing about camp... it's giving me alot of the 'here we go again's'.

I do hope I'm wrong.

Lunch.

Posted by: DikShuttle | July 31, 2009 12:51 PM | Report abuse

Why should Pierce get off lighter than Buress? They're both just as guilty as the other... Pierce maybe even more so, 'cause he participated in an obvious cover up attempt, wheras Buress just shot himself like a dumb SJK.

Posted by: DikShuttle | July 31, 2009 12:44 PM | Report abuse

Okay..okay. Suspend Pierce for both games against the Skins. :)

Posted by: ga8085 | July 31, 2009 12:53 PM | Report abuse

I'm glad to hear James Thrash has accepted a position with the Skins. Guess DeMaurice Smith did not get his wish.

Posted by: Lisa_R | July 31, 2009 12:54 PM | Report abuse

Good to hear that James Thrash is doing well. I didn't know that he took a job with the 'skins.

I think the Mike Willimas experiment will be over soon. I don't see him making the roster, but at his weight I'd love to see him at guard.

After 14 years in Phillip Daniels is still underrated to an extent.

Would really like to see Ladell Betts get 130-150 carries and catch about 50 passes this season.

Posted by: RedDMV | July 31, 2009 12:54 PM | Report abuse

"Ladell Betts could be a bigger part of the offense than he was last season."

7 years+ that this statement is a staple of Redskins training camp.....

Posted by: chrislarry | July 31, 2009 12:55 PM | Report abuse

James Thrash is great....as long as he is not in uniform.

Posted by: chrislarry | July 31, 2009 12:56 PM | Report abuse

James Thrash is great....as long as he is not in uniform.

Posted by: chrislarry

I co-sign on that one CL

Posted by: jm220 | July 31, 2009 12:58 PM | Report abuse

Why should Pierce get off lighter than Buress? They're both just as guilty as the other... Pierce maybe even more so, 'cause he participated in an obvious cover up attempt, wheras Buress just shot himself like a dumb SJK.

Posted by: DikShuttle | July 31, 2009 12:44 PM | Report abuse

Okay..okay. Suspend Pierce for both games against the Skins. :)

Posted by: ga8085 | July 31, 2009 12:53 PM |

Screw that, put his dumb azz in the pen.

Posted by: scampbell1975 | July 31, 2009 12:58 PM | Report abuse

(Mike Williams experiment = Erasmus James experiment) - 7th round draft pick.

Posted by: chrislarry | July 31, 2009 1:00 PM | Report abuse

Is it just me that often thinks of what our backfield could have been:

Sean Taylor
LaRon Landry
DeAngelo Hall
Carlos Rogers
(Fred Smoot)

Thats 5 first rounders, if I am not mistaken. Oh Sean - how we miss you!

Posted by: Political_Stratgst | July 31, 2009 1:05 PM | Report abuse

Maybe it's just me, but is there anyone on this roster with more pure talent than LaRon Landry?

By JReid

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ST21 will forever be on the roster in my mind. The 54th unseen man, if you may.///

Posted by: 4thFloor | July 31, 2009 1:05 PM | Report abuse

After retiring because of a neck injury, good guy James Thrash accepted a job with the organization and is at camp.

+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

Tip of the Hat to Snyder!

Busch Gardens is better than 6Flags, though!

Posted by: 4thFloor | July 31, 2009 1:07 PM | Report abuse

Good stuff, Mr. Mayor.

I think reporters see better without having to look through smoke blown by Cerrato or Snyder.

Posted by: TheCork | July 31, 2009 1:07 PM | Report abuse

Yeah man, ST21 is always there and on my mind.

Posted by: scampbell1975 | July 31, 2009 1:07 PM | Report abuse

Not very good notes

Posted by: capitolteacher | July 31, 2009 1:08 PM | Report abuse

I actually don't like some of what I'm hearing about camp... it's giving me alot of the 'here we go again's'.
I do hope I'm wrong.
Posted by: DikShuttle | July 31, 2009 12:51 PM

Dude,camp started just yesterday! Give them a break.
As per Pierce, I hope he gets first game
suspension.


Posted by: abxinc | July 31, 2009 1:09 PM | Report abuse

James Thrash is great....as long as he is not in uniform.

Posted by: chrislarry

I co-sign on that one CL

Posted by: jm220 | July 31, 2009 12:58 PM

Haters of the same feather flock together!

Posted by: 4thFloor | July 31, 2009 1:10 PM | Report abuse

Screw that, put his dumb azz in the pen.

Posted by: scampbell1975 | July 31, 2009 12:58 PM | Report abuse

Wow, really? Kind of harsh thinking for someone who didn't commit a crime against anyone. If it was your close friend, what would of you done differently in that situation?

Posted by: ga8085 | July 31, 2009 1:10 PM | Report abuse

All you people callin' first need to be beepin on the previous thread. It's tradition and courteous.

Posted by: scampbell1975 | July 31, 2009 12:46 PM

RI's a lot like the Mob. Most of the important rules are unwritten, but understood. Ignoring them will get you dead here.

Remember, scampbell1975 is a real Mustache Pete, wannabes, so pay attention if you hope to be made when the books get opened.

Posted by: TheCork | July 31, 2009 1:12 PM | Report abuse

good guy James Thrash accepted a job with the organization and is at camp.

By Jason Reid | July 31, 2009; 12:35 PM ET

Tell us more! What job is it? Administrative or coaching or a little of both?

And, nice post, Mr. Mayor.

Posted by: talent_evaluator | July 31, 2009 1:14 PM | Report abuse

Screw that, put his dumb azz in the pen.

Posted by: scampbell1975 | July 31, 2009 12:58 PM | Report abuse

Wow, really? Kind of harsh thinking for someone who didn't commit a crime against anyone. If it was your close friend, what would of you done differently in that situation?

Posted by: ga8085 | July 31, 2009 1:10 PM |

Didn't commit a crime against anyone? He commited a crime. He knowingly removed evidence from the scene of a crime. If it was my close friend I would have called him a dumbazz for bringing a loaded, unregistered firearm into a club. That doesn't even begin to speak about what I would have called him for shooting himself with it.

Posted by: scampbell1975 | July 31, 2009 1:15 PM | Report abuse

Actually 4 first rounders, Smoot was a second rounder by the General Marty..who, by my thoughts would have had us in many playoffs.

Posted by: Tyler84101 | July 31, 2009 1:15 PM | Report abuse

(Mike Williams experiment = Erasmus James experiment) - 7th round draft pick.

Posted by: chrislarry | July 31, 2009 1:00 PM

If you lined Erasmus James up against Mike Williams, who would win? And if a tree fell in the forest...

Posted by: talent_evaluator | July 31, 2009 1:16 PM | Report abuse

Cork, you never fail to make me laugh. Lol!

Posted by: scampbell1975 | July 31, 2009 1:16 PM | Report abuse

I miss the old days when I would use the screen name "beep beep" and then in my post say "Me"

Posted by: isnadd | July 31, 2009 1:17 PM | Report abuse

you are mistaken actually, Political

Fred Smoot was a 2nd rounder.
Of course, after the Hall trade last year we would have had 5 first rounders -- all of whom were top 10 picks:
#21 - 5th overall
Landry - 6th overall
Springs - 3rd overall
Hall - 8th overall
Rogers - 9th overall

Posted by: Sheriff_Gonna_Getcha | July 31, 2009 1:19 PM | Report abuse

you are mistaken actually, Political

Fred Smoot was a 2nd rounder.
Of course, after the Hall acquisition last year we would have had 5 first rounders -- all of whom were top 10 picks:
#21 - 5th overall
Landry - 6th overall
Springs - 3rd overall
Hall - 8th overall
Rogers - 9th overall

Posted by: Sheriff_Gonna_Getcha | July 31, 2009 1:19 PM | Report abuse

Didn't commit a crime against anyone? He commited a crime. He knowingly removed evidence from the scene of a crime. If it was my close friend I would have called him a dumbazz for bringing a loaded, unregistered firearm into a club. That doesn't even begin to speak about what I would have called him for shooting himself with it.

Posted by: scampbell1975 | July 31, 2009 1:15 PM | Report abuse

I don't think Pierce knew he had a gun when they entered the club together. So after your dumb friend would of shot himself, you would of been a good citizen and called the cops on him and informed him of the state laws and penalties? Then insisted he hand the gun over to be placed in police custody while they wait for their arrival? My point being is that Pierce did what he thought was the best decision at the time, but it wasn't his fault that he was put in that situation.

Posted by: ga8085 | July 31, 2009 1:19 PM | Report abuse

4th don't get me wrong. I like Thrash but it was time for him to hang them up.

No question Reaper will always be a part of the roster.

Posted by: jm220 | July 31, 2009 1:20 PM | Report abuse

redskinsblogJust saw Keith Eloi in Redskins Park. He seems fine, says it was just cramps.
Another Twat

Posted by: scampbell1975 | July 31, 2009 1:20 PM | Report abuse

Just read Peter King's postcard from Skins training camp. Pretty standard stuff.

Posted by: p1funk | July 31, 2009 11:48 AM

I thought there was a lot of new stuff, at least I haven't seen it before on this blog: Sellers (who many up here think will get cut), Barnes, Hunter Smith, Collins v. Colt for backup, Haynesworth/Blache.

Posted by: talent_evaluator | July 31, 2009 12:10 PM | Report abuse

You've seen all those discussions on this blog. Maybe not from the "official bloggers", but certainly amongst the RI citizenry - that's more what I was referring to.

Posted by: p1funk | July 31, 2009 1:21 PM | Report abuse

Wow, really? Kind of harsh thinking for someone who didn't commit a crime against anyone. If it was your close friend, what would of you done differently in that situation?
Posted by: ga8085 | July 31, 2009 1:10 PM

I’da been all “dude, I know you shot yourself in the leg and all, but I gotta close out our tab before the cops and ambulance get here……you owe $42.50 plus tip.” And then I would have called him a retard for bringing a loaded gun……

Posted by: dlhaze1 | July 31, 2009 1:22 PM | Report abuse

James Thrash is great....as long as he is not in uniform. Posted by: chrislarry

I co-sign on that one CL
Posted by: jm220

---------------------------------

Y'all say what you want, but when we were in a close game in the 4th quarter and the defense had double-coverage on Santana Moss, Thrash was the guy I was hoping would get thrown to.

Clearly an indication that our receiving corp has stunk, but don't hate on Thrash for that.

Posted by: isnadd | July 31, 2009 1:22 PM | Report abuse

Sean Taylor was absolutely the hardest hitting player I've ever seen. I know the ESPN guys always gave that crown to Polumalu and Bob Sanders, but ST was the best. Only played 4 short years but still a Redskin Legend. They should retire that jersey forever with the best of em.

Posted by: iH8dallas | July 31, 2009 1:22 PM | Report abuse

"I don't think Pierce knew he had a gun when they entered the club together. So after your dumb friend would of shot himself, you would of been a good citizen and called the cops on him and informed him of the state laws and penalties? Then insisted he hand the gun over to be placed in police custody while they wait for their arrival? My point being is that Pierce did what he thought was the best decision at the time, but it wasn't his fault that he was put in that situation.
Posted by: ga8085"

Doesn't the felony charge hinge on whether it was an attempt at a coverup? And doesn't that hinge on whether Pierce knew the gun was unregistered?

Posted by: Samson151 | July 31, 2009 1:23 PM | Report abuse

I don't think Pierce knew he had a gun when they entered the club together. So after your dumb friend would of shot himself, you would of been a good citizen and called the cops on him and informed him of the state laws and penalties? Then insisted he hand the gun over to be placed in police custody while they wait for their arrival? My point being is that Pierce did what he thought was the best decision at the time, but it wasn't his fault that he was put in that situation.

Posted by: ga8085 | July 31, 2009 1:19 PM

I didn't say that but I sure as sh!t wouldn't have turned myself into an accomplice by taking the gun and driving it across state lines. Which, by the way, the Feds could charge him with. To your other point. I'm pretty careful about who I choose to hang out with. No one I know would have been stupid enough to pull this crap in the first place. Be careful who you associate with. If you choose to hang with morons you subject yourself to moronities such as this.

Posted by: scampbell1975 | July 31, 2009 1:24 PM | Report abuse

I wanna see what Marko Mitchell can do.

Posted by: rickyroge | July 31, 2009 1:25 PM | Report abuse

No one is hating on Thrash. We needed to get younger at WR.

Posted by: jm220 | July 31, 2009 1:25 PM | Report abuse

OK, if Godzilla descended on Training Camp, which player would he take out first?

Posted by: isnadd | July 31, 2009 1:26 PM | Report abuse

As much as Snyder is ridiculed, he should get some shine for the Thrash move.

Good job.

Posted by: rickyroge | July 31, 2009 1:27 PM | Report abuse

I categorically refuse to sign up for Twitter ... it's the one technological space where I claim Luddite status.

That being said are the details of practices only being twotted upon? I miss some of the stuff about specific plays and players invovled.

When Da Mayor says "The Redskins really want Devin Thomas to seize an opportunity and earn that starting flanker spot opposite split end Santana Moss." I'd love some details on how that is showing up on the field.

Agreed cL on the Betts comment. We've been hearing it for years.

I'm doing an HTTR jig for our defense but ugh the o-line. . . .just holding my breath. . . .if one of the main talking points is about a guy's weight loss? Ugh.

Posted by: sfskin | July 31, 2009 1:29 PM | Report abuse

JC has always thrown a nice deep ball; that was one of the main reasons Gibbs drafted him. And in his first few years he did hit the long one regularly. But especially toward the end of last year, he was missing on the deep go route, either down the hash marks or along sideline. It may have been due to the poor OL play but it seemed more to me that he just lost his touch and needed some time off and practice to get it back. Let's hope he has it back now...

Posted by: iseyij | July 31, 2009 1:30 PM | Report abuse

sorry, Ive been pretty off the blog over the summer. Why do "many people up here" think sellers is gonna get cut? cuz of one boneheaded play against cincy? Frankly, I think we need a lot more of Sellers!

Posted by: SkinsInSichuan | July 31, 2009 1:30 PM | Report abuse

"The crowds at the complex seem smaller to me than last season, but I don't remember things as well as I once did."

Thats becuase they (at least the open practices) are now held while most of us are at WORK!

Posted by: REDneckSKINhead | July 31, 2009 1:30 PM | Report abuse

Peter King:

2. Look for Albert Haynesworth to have the chance to be more disruptive this year than he was in Tennessee. Talked to well-respected defensive coordinator Greg Blache after the second workout of the day, and he told me Haynesworth would likely move from the inside to end in some passing downs. If that's the case, I asked, would offenses have to face the 350-pound Haynesworth bull-rushing from one side and the lithe Brian Orakpo rushing from the opposite ... on maybe a third of the snaps per game. "Maybe,'' Blache said with a big smile. "Maybe. We'll see.'' It only makes sense to spread those guys out and let offenses figure out who to double.

Wide receiver Malcolm Kelly's shoes. I've never seen fluorescent yellow shoes on anyone before -- not on an athlete or a 16-year-old girl going to her junior prom -- but he wore them well today at practice. Look for Kelly, a disappointing second-round pick a year ago, to press hard for the starting job alongside Santana Moss, but the early returns make it appear that Devin Thomas is ahead in competition for the second spot. He was flying in individual pass drills against corners in the morning, catching two balls deep, one on a perfect throw from Jason Campbell.
On the menu

Posted by: scampbell1975 | July 31, 2009 1:31 PM | Report abuse

beepage

Posted by: scampbell1975 | July 31, 2009 1:33 PM | Report abuse

HONK HONK

Posted by: REDneckSKINhead | July 31, 2009 1:34 PM | Report abuse

I didn't say that but I sure as sh!t wouldn't have turned myself into an accomplice by taking the gun and driving it across state lines. Which, by the way, the Feds could charge him with. To your other point. I'm pretty careful about who I choose to hang out with. No one I know would have been stupid enough to pull this crap in the first place. Be careful who you associate with. If you choose to hang with morons you subject yourself to moronities such as this.

Posted by: scampbell1975 | July 31, 2009 1:24 PM | Report abuse

Fair enough. But in that state of panic, and I can't claim to know what Pierce was thinking, but I don't think he was cognizant of the fact that what he was doing was a crime. I just think he was trying to get his friend out of a jam. Wasn't the brightest thing to do, but people commit alot more heinous crimes then that and get less time.

Posted by: ga8085 | July 31, 2009 1:34 PM | Report abuse

Watch out for the italics... tell me when they are gone, it hurts

Posted by: Zeebs | July 31, 2009 1:38 PM | Report abuse

In regard to my previous thread: Why the Skins could use an run/pass option QB like Vick in the Red Zone and on the Goal Line. I don't think getting stuffed at the goal line, as happend too often last year was due to bad play calling as was suggested. On 3rd and 4th down, there is little mystery where the ball is going when it is inside the one. Defenses discount JC because they know he is not a threat outside the tackles and so they pack it in. Vick would keep those DE's and LBs from packing it in too tight because he can outrace them to the sideline. I dont see a downside to signing Vick as the 5th RB/slot receiver and carry only two QBs.

Posted by: iseyij | July 31, 2009 1:38 PM | Report abuse

Catching up on posts from last 2 days my own random thoughts please feel free to skip - a la Peter King style:

1. I presume everyone laughed at Snyder's interview especially the part about 'maturing into the position of owner' and having 'patience'.

2. Snyder continues to mishandle the JCampbell issue. He needs to just give the guy a full throated support with no caveats at this point. Not like Snyder has any dignity or reputation to lose at this point.

3. Interesting to see how Orkapo (yay for signing) is touted as very smart and quick and athletic while at the same time balancing the fact that he has to learn a lot fast. Presumably this is CYA for the mistakes he is likely to make more often than not this year.

4. I want to know if Thomas, Kelly and Davis are aware of and really feeling ready to step it up this year. I feel like Davis might be but the other two? Is that why Thrash is back to take them to the woodshed as needed?

5. Zorn's interview about keeping up with current culture etc. may have included the most brilliant idea as I recall he said he'd never been to a porn website and that he could 'push pornagraphy' and go see one but wouldn't. That implies there is a 'pornography' button on the keyboard of all computers which there isn't . . .yet. . .I think that might be a major money idea.

Posted by: sfskin | July 31, 2009 1:39 PM | Report abuse

Finally, I hope JC is working on his swing pass touch. He has never been a touch passer on short routes but who cares if he can hit the long one and throw the out deep or short. But as we saw at the end of last season, JC could not hit the deep ball or ths touch pass. Of course, RT was a sieve, Rodgers could not hold on to the ball and the pass rush was a joke. But all is looking better this year.

Posted by: iseyij | July 31, 2009 1:51 PM | Report abuse

I didn't say that but I sure as sh!t wouldn't have turned myself into an accomplice by taking the gun and driving it across state lines. Which, by the way, the Feds could charge him with. To your other point. I'm pretty careful about who I choose to hang out with. No one I know would have been stupid enough to pull this crap in the first place. Be careful who you associate with. If you choose to hang with morons you subject yourself to moronities such as this.

Posted by: scampbell1975 | July 31, 2009 1:24 PM

scamp = Georgia Tech graduate, bright guy
Pierce = U. Arizona dud, screwed Redskins for Giants, not bright

scamp = free man
Pierce = jailbird

Posted by: talent_evaluator | July 31, 2009 1:53 PM | Report abuse

I suggest that the Skins play a 12 man formation with an unbalanced line, using both Williams and Heyer for the RT position (at the same time). With both there, maybe they can hold the corner and get a little push on a run play.

Posted by: iseyij | July 31, 2009 1:59 PM | Report abuse

Pierce did what anyone would for a friend/teammate. Pierce is an idiot for not just throwing the gun in the Hudson!! "What gun your honor??" This DA seems like a real pr!ck and is just "gunning" for celebrity athletes. He keeps twisting the language surrounding the gun too. It was "unlicensed" in NYC, but it was a legally purchased gun and registered in FL, not some blackmarket handgun. Plax is an idiot for not checking local laws and for chambering and cocking the gun in a pair of sweatpants!!! Being stupid deserves getting shot in the leg and losing a couple million in salary, not 2-3 years in prison.

Posted by: mrlowery1 | July 31, 2009 2:23 PM | Report abuse

Here are some rookie year catch totals of receivers that were in the top 20 in yards for the 2008 season:
Steve Smith, 10 catches (future HOF)
Roddy White, 29 catches
Wes Welker, Zippy catches (14 games)
Reggie Wayne, 27 catches
Vincent Jackson, 3 catches
Tony Gonzo, 33 cathes (future HOF)
Hines Ward, 16 catches (15 games) (furture HOF)
Derrick Mason, 14 catches (16 games)

I don't remember these guys being called busts their rookie years. For the most part people called them....rookies.

Posted by: MonkMossMann | July 31, 2009 2:24 PM | Report abuse

"JC has always thrown a nice deep ball; that was one of the main reasons Gibbs drafted him"

You must have been watching a different Jason Campbell than the one on my TV screen.

Posted by: Samson151 | July 31, 2009 2:29 PM | Report abuse

"Be careful who you associate with. If you choose to hang with morons you subject yourself to moronities such as this.Posted by: scampbell1975"

Could this be what happened to Vinny Cerrato?

Posted by: Samson151 | July 31, 2009 2:36 PM | Report abuse

"Here are some rookie year catch totals of receivers that were in the top 20 in yards for the 2008 season:"

Thanks for posting that. Good perspective.

Posted by: Samson151 | July 31, 2009 2:39 PM | Report abuse

Great Post Moss Man!

Posted by: rickyroge | July 31, 2009 2:55 PM | Report abuse

iseyji: Finally, I hope JC is working on his swing pass touch. He has never been a touch passer on short routes but who cares if he can hit the long one and throw the out deep or short. But as we saw at the end of last season, JC could not hit the deep ball or ths touch pass. Of course, RT was a sieve, Rodgers could not hold on to the ball and the pass rush was a joke. But all is looking better this year."

Wow. I am not following this at all.

Posted by: Samson151 | July 31, 2009 3:27 PM | Report abuse

"I think the Mike Willimas experiment will be over soon. I don't see him making the roster, but at his weight I'd love to see him at guard."

Guard might be a good idea, but Williams claim to fame in high school was defense.
He could be aggressive on defense.

Posted by: fwroy | July 31, 2009 3:31 PM | Report abuse

Waaaaay too soon to start writing Mike Williams' obituary. I'm not the least bit alarmed the guy is rusty after 2 years off. That's what camp is for, to get into football shape and get used to the speed of the game and focus on technique. He may not win the starting job but no question he is going to look better by the end of camp as long as he stays healthy.

Posted by: McMetal | July 31, 2009 3:46 PM | Report abuse

BTW, where's our Mancrush Marcus Mason update?

:)

Posted by: McMetal | July 31, 2009 3:47 PM | Report abuse

Jason Reid, you wouldn't say a negative thing about Campbell, no matter what the circumstances. The guy can't throw a ten yard pass without hitting the receiver's feet and you want me to believe that he can throw the longball with accuracy. This must be some more of that hope and change our worthless president keeps talking about.

Posted by: theBozyn | July 31, 2009 4:27 PM | Report abuse

"...getting down to a playing weight was only one of the hurdles Mike Williams faced when he signed."


So why isn't he practicing to be a guard?

Pass protection isn't as important there as it is at tackle.

And speaking of tackle, any news about the terp young'n S. Burley?

Or Devin Clark?

Posted by: MistaMoe | July 31, 2009 4:56 PM | Report abuse

Thanks J Reid. Just out of curiosity anyone here how Barnes has looked? As a huge Fred Smoot fan I am wondering if he's going to be able to hang on to the nickel position or if the rook will be able to make a push to steal it. Also, update on Malcolm Kelly?

Posted by: daniel_estepp | July 31, 2009 5:15 PM | Report abuse

Jason Campbell has room for improvement in some areas, but No. 17 sure throws a nice deep ball.
I believe this is best-worst news.
We awready knew about the deep ball...

Posted by: Surfercalavera | July 31, 2009 5:21 PM | Report abuse

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