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This year, Romo will see a new pass rush

Dallas Cowboys quarterback Tony Romo has taken a lot of heat for his poor performance late in the season and during the playoffs. But Romo sure knows how to extend plays, Coach Jim Zorn said.

"It is just awful to have to cover longer than you really want to," Zorn said. "We've got to try to get to him and make him be concerned about" the pass rush.

The Redskins (3-6) are last in the NFC East and the Cowboys (6-3) are atop the division. For the Redskins to pull closer to the Cowboys, they must corral Romo in the pocket and end passing plays quickly.

"When he extends, when he moves around, when he flinches the ball, it causes the secondary, the linebackers, to hesitate, to go, to move," Zorn said. "And then if he can pull it down and have time to hit somebody else, it is very hard.

"It is the most difficult thing in football because you got the coverage, and if you throw on rhythm, you think you can handle it. When that rhythm's broke and you have to cover long through the coverage that you had, it's hard. It's what makes those quarterbacks very difficult to defend and he's been good at it for a few years."

An end has a new beginning

Speaking of the pass rush, a big factor in the Redskins' success Sunday will be Brian Orakpo, the defensive end/linebacker/rookie of the year candidate whom Rick Maese writes about today. The Cowboys' third-year tackle, Doug Free, will be making his first start Sunday and figures to see a lot of the number 98.

If he can take advantage of a young tackle, Orakpo might not be far away from double-digit sack numbers. In the past 15 years, only 12 rookies have managed such a feat -- players like Peter Boulware, Jevon Kearse, Dwight Freeney and Terrell Suggs. Nine of the 12 have gone on to play in at least three Pro Bowls.
Whether at linebacker or defensive end, Orakpo might find himself mentioned alongside the league's top pass rushers more frequently. He enters the Dallas game ranked 10th in the league in sacks, tied with accomplished pass rushers Julius Peppers and DeMarcus Ware and well ahead of others, such as Suggs, Jason Taylor, Shawne Merriman, Justin Tuck, John Abraham and Osi Umenyiora.
"That's crazy, because these are guys that I'm telling you, we all looked up to these guys when I was in college," Orakpo said. "The things they've done -- for me to be ahead of them at this point, man, it's a good thing."

From the Bog ... and a chat

Dallas week is made for happy memories, like the time Dexter Manley made Danny White cry. Dan Steinberg has the deets. ... Join Jason Reid for a chat at 11 a.m. today.

The view from Dallas

Speaking of Free, the Cowboys have been forced to make adjustments because of injuries, too. Alan Ball will get his first start at free safety in place of Ken Hamilin. ... Guess who'd like to see Felix Jones get more carries? Jerry Jones, that's who.

Watching the former coaches

With former Denver Broncos coach Mike Shanahan reportedly under consideration to run the Buffalo Bills' football operation, another of the Super Bowl-winning coaches expected to be on Daniel Snyder's list to lead the Redskins might have other plans.

Former Tampa Bay coach Jon Gruden recently reached a multiyear agreement with ESPN. Mike Holmgren, who most recently coached the Seattle Seahawks, was very critical of the Redskins for their treatment of Zorn, his former quarterbacks coach, and is expected to be a candidate for other openings. And Bill Cowher, who led the Pittsburgh Steelers to their fifth Super Bowl championship, has often been mentioned in connection with the Carolina Panthers.

Of course, with the amount of money Snyder could offer a high-profile candidate, anything could happen. And there's also still the possibility Snyder might lure back former coach Joe Gibbs to take a high-ranking position with the team, but not as coach. It's all very interesting and means the offseason is going to be just as busy as the season. But then, you knew that.

By Jason Reid  |  November 20, 2009; 7:50 AM ET
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Comments

Best Quote of the Week:

"....F the Cowboys...."


Analysis: It's simple, direct.

It's a sex-act image coupled with an insult.

A pissed redskin is pitching and a submissive cowboy is receiving.

F the Cowboys!

It gives the speaker the feeling of throwing mud and venom at a media sacred cow: "America's Team"

Only outsiders would embrace defaming what ESPN and the NFL Network promote and cheerlead--the Dallas Cowboys.

They'll be so much analysis of the cowboys' issues this Sunday Morning you'll think they, and not the stillers, were the World Champs being assaulted by an up and coming team.

Folks will hate on and mock the redskins' chances like we're the homecoming chump team, the easy win that comes before the bg dance.

Well, I don't dance.

F the cowboys!!!

And all the football talking heads will take this game as a "...statement game..." where the lone star crew somehow disproves that it's nothing but a gang of over-rated choke artists.

Even if we win, they'll make it sound like somehow, we got lucky.

F!CK the Cowboys!

You can't do better than that.

And even if we lose, I'll still say it.

But only louder.

Posted by: MistaMoe | November 20, 2009 8:15 AM | Report abuse

chirp chirp chirp

Posted by: DikShuttle | November 20, 2009 8:31 AM | Report abuse

"Watching the former coaches"


Why?

Like peace, give Zorn a chance.

He has the lockerroom and the team's utmost respect.

Why would you want to change that?

Get some linemen, keep Sherm Lewis around, and make a cold business decision about Clinton Portis.

Zorn can and deserves the chance to grow with the team.

Posted by: MistaMoe | November 20, 2009 8:32 AM | Report abuse

moe with the early morning rage...like it..good start to the day....

Posted by: BeantownGreg1 | November 20, 2009 8:34 AM | Report abuse

Get some linemen, keep Sherm Lewis around, and make a cold business decision about Clinton Portis.

Zorn can and deserves the chance to grow with the team.

Posted by: MistaMoe | November 20, 2009 8:32 AM


I'm not sure Zorn would want Sherm Lewis to stick around. In Zorn's pressers he's never really said that he like how the offense is operating under a new play caller. Zorn mentions execution. the job Sherm Smith, and Chris Meidts have done. I don't think the marriage between Zorn and Lewis would last for much longer than the remainder of this year.

Posted by: TWISI | November 20, 2009 8:37 AM | Report abuse

Get some linemen, keep Sherm Lewis around, and make a cold business decision about Clinton Portis.

Posted by: MistaMoe | November 20, 2009 8:32 AM | Report abuse


As long as the recipe includes firing Vinny Cerrato, I'm game.

Not sure what you mean by "cold business decision".

Clinton Tortoise needs to get IRed, get surgery, get healthy and get platooned next year with a dynamic young back a-la MJD or Chris Johnson.

Tortoise is too expensive to trade/cut.

Posted by: p1funk | November 20, 2009 8:41 AM | Report abuse

twis/moe, somewhat agree with both of you. I could see this working if JZ could swallow his pride, and admit that SLewis is a better play caller, and if they handed the OC position to Sherm, I could see him staying.

For JZ to ignore what the offense has done since Sherm took over, is to ignore the so very obvious....

Posted by: BeantownGreg1 | November 20, 2009 8:42 AM | Report abuse

I think it's a downright shame to have to sacrifice a quality RB for the sake of your team. But it looks like that's what has to happen.

And if them's the breaks, them's the breaks.

The smart move for CPo now would be to capitulate, be contrite, ask for forgiveness and agree to a re-structuring for the sake of his carreer... if he has it in him. I believe he does, but does he?

Watched The Natural last night. Great flick.

Posted by: DikShuttle | November 20, 2009 8:44 AM | Report abuse

Zorn has to eventually realize that his play calling sucked. Maybe we could put together a little critique and e-mail it to him.

EX:

To: JZorn@runleft.com
Subject: run left

Body: run left run left run left run left run left run left run left run left run left run left run left run left run left run left run left run left run left run left run left run left run left run left run left run left run left run left run left run left run left run left run left run left run left run left run left run left run left run left run left run left run left run left run left run left

Posted by: PAskinsfan17 | November 20, 2009 8:46 AM | Report abuse

Dexter Manley was excited about the Denver victory and he is even more excited about the prospect that Washington can also whip Dallas's butt on Sunday.

He said that we should go at Dallas with the same attitude and personnel that we used against Denver.

And then he said we should definitely not use a certain running back that has a penchant for falling down in the hole.

I then went Wow, and started LOL. What an accurate observation of Clinton Portis.

LarryInClintonMD.

Posted by: LarryInClintonMD | November 20, 2009 8:47 AM | Report abuse

Dexter Manley for President.

Posted by: p1funk | November 20, 2009 8:49 AM | Report abuse

POOWERRRRRRRRRRRR FUBBAL

Posted by: alex35332 | November 20, 2009 8:52 AM | Report abuse

"Dexter Manley for President."


So long as he doesn't relapse and start using cocaine again, I'm game.

Otherwise, his slogan will be:

"Let's put the white back in the White House!"

(INSERT rimshot audio and image of chain-smoking NA/AA counselors shaking their heads while shouting, "Insensitive uncle tom!" as Rodney "Moe" Dangerfield works his tie and complains about the lack of respect he receives in this blog.)

Posted by: MistaMoe | November 20, 2009 8:56 AM | Report abuse

I think Portis should just go on IR, get those ankle spurs taken care of, workout in the offseason, PRACTICE, and try again next year. I don't think he is done yet but I'd like to see him be done for this year. He is not in the shape he was in last year and it's showing.

Posted by: PAskinsfan17 | November 20, 2009 8:59 AM | Report abuse

If Zorn still has hope of retaining his job he would be wise to let Sherm save it for him.

However, the Redskins would have to make the playoffs and play for the NFC title.

A small miracle no less.

LarryInClintonMD.

Posted by: LarryInClintonMD | November 20, 2009 8:59 AM | Report abuse

Because we need another ex-coke-head in the white house.

Posted by: alex35332 | November 20, 2009 9:00 AM | Report abuse

Oh right... the Presidents now aren't using coke.... uh... ok.

Posted by: DikShuttle | November 20, 2009 9:02 AM | Report abuse

"Because we need another ex-coke-head in the white house."

If Manley were to win, he'd be the third one in a row.

And like George Bush, he'll be a guy who just learned how to read.

Posted by: MistaMoe | November 20, 2009 9:03 AM | Report abuse

Moe? Clinton didn't ? c'moooon.

Posted by: DikShuttle | November 20, 2009 9:05 AM | Report abuse

BOYCOTT DAN SNYDER!!!!!!!!!
(or the suckiness will go on and on and on and on...)

Posted by: Pepper5 | November 20, 2009 9:07 AM | Report abuse

Now HERE'S a 'basin' President

Posted by: DikShuttle | November 20, 2009 9:08 AM | Report abuse

3rd in a row who more or less admitted it.

Clinton- Probably to most definitely. My gut tells me he was not a habitual user but occasional.
Bush I- he ran the F***ing CIA when the Coke thing was going down so LOCK he did it. Also you have to be on something to sleep with Bar.
Regan- Dude was an actor during the first coke era of the 50's so yes.
Carter- doubt it but never know
Ford- No
Nixon- YES!

Posted by: alex35332 | November 20, 2009 9:09 AM | Report abuse

"Dexter Manley for President."

So long as he doesn't relapse and start using cocaine again, I'm game.

Otherwise, his slogan will be:

"Let's put the white back in the White House!"

Posted by: MistaMoe | November 20, 2009 8:56 AM | Report abuse


Even if that were the case, would it be much different from the kind of leadership we've gronw accustomed to seeing in DC?

Marion Barry, George W., Bill Clinton (who didn't inhale), Barry O.

Take your pick.

Posted by: p1funk | November 20, 2009 9:12 AM | Report abuse

"Not sure what you mean by "cold business decision..."


Let's say you have two girlfriends.

One is willing to 'practice' whenever you want to.

She's dependable, plain, and works to please you.

The other girlfriend is flashy, but doesn't like to 'practice' when you want to.

Thing is, she doesn't satisfy like she used to, but because you've quieted her with a lot of money and gifts, you feel like you need to keep her around.

Me?: I rid myself of headaches and dis-satisfaction.

Plain and steady beats occasionally flashy everyday.

The cold business decision is deciding t move the team in a Clinton Portis-free direction.

Pay him to go.

Draft a speed back who'll give you the flash you want.

But not the injury and headaches you don't need.

Posted by: MistaMoe | November 20, 2009 9:13 AM | Report abuse

re-post from the Bog

I'm effing pumped!!!
eff the cowboys!!!
eff the bandwagon nad riding d-bag cowboys fans!!!
Hail to the Redskins!!!

Posted by: jonthefisherman | November 20, 2009 7:35 AM | Report abuse

Posted by: jonthefisherman | November 20, 2009 9:16 AM | Report abuse

Pay him to go.

Draft a speed back who'll give you the flash you want.

But not the injury and headaches you don't need.

Posted by: MistaMoe | November 20, 2009 9:13 AM | Report abuse


Platoon him.

Fred Taylor-MJD
Thoms Jones-Leon Washington
LT-Darren Sproles

We're paying him $7mill next year and we can get something from him. Platoon him with a young dynamic back.

If he gets smart and uppity in the lockerroom, just have Fat Albert smack in the mouth and tell him there's a new "highest paid player" in town.

Posted by: p1funk | November 20, 2009 9:17 AM | Report abuse

Posted by: MistaMoe | November 20, 2009 9:13 AM | Report abuse

Now Betts and Spiller would be a platoon!!

Posted by: PAskinsfan17 | November 20, 2009 9:17 AM | Report abuse

HA! Dexter Manley in the White House...

Like this country would ever elect another black dude to be president. Besides Manley is too black. With Manley you can't pull that interracial crap.

You is who your daddy is... "Mama call him Clay, I'ma call him Clay" and what not...

One look at Dexter Manley and their is no denying this dude is "Congo black".

Before that happens MOFOs would just start renouncing their US citizenships.

Posted by: RedDMV | November 20, 2009 9:19 AM | Report abuse

Making this week's Skins matchup even juicier for me is the fact that my FF opponent is playing Romo and Austin against me...

...I need a "W" to stay in the playoff hunt.

If things don't go well on Sunday, I might go "Dexter" and start wildly smashing crap in the living room.

Posted by: p1funk | November 20, 2009 9:19 AM | Report abuse

bama gettin all political, and stuff, its dallas week red you bamified bama, get your head straight....

Posted by: BeantownGreg1 | November 20, 2009 9:23 AM | Report abuse

One look at Dexter Manley and their is no denying this dude is "Congo black".

Before that happens MOFOs would just start renouncing their US citizenships.

Posted by: RedDMV | November 20, 2009 9:19 AM | Report abuse


I'm white, and there's no doubt I'd vote for Dexter.

Remember Bernie Mac's character from "Head of State" and that scene where he's announced as Miles Gilliam's running mate? Remember how he's walking through the train station and reporters are coming up asking for questions and he's just open-handed smacking them??

That's how Dexter would roll.

Keith Olbermann? (BACKHAND!)
Sean Hannity? (OPEN-HAND SWAT!)
Katie Couric? (BACKHAND!)

Posted by: p1funk | November 20, 2009 9:23 AM | Report abuse

Yeah, but Moe. The flashy chick does that thing with her mouth! And she has a SLAMMIN' body.. ok.. this analogy is getting weird.

I'll admit that once this train derailed, it's time to switch tracks - to keep the railroad going... But we'll have to disagree about the cause of the crash.

I could definitely see CPo re-structuring to have a shot to continue, if the team turns around. Again, if he makes up for his mistakes and is actually healthy, he could still be a heavy contributor.

I know everyone wants Crisco under the bus now and it seems that's the direction we're going. But just a few weeks ago we had others under there... and they seem to have turned it around.

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Posted by: alex35332 | November 20, 2009 9:32 AM | Report abuse

I've been mad sick the last few days. So I'm kind of behind on my Dallas bashing/hating/flame-spitting... My bad, Pork and Beans...

Bernie Mac is Head of State was funny as hell.... "Security!"

Posted by: RedDMV | November 20, 2009 9:33 AM | Report abuse

Crisco under the bus? Is that some sort of homecoming prank?

Posted by: daggar | November 20, 2009 9:35 AM | Report abuse

If you was to axe each of the 31 NFL teams which Skin they would take, if able to choose any one, as is, salary, injury status, etc., I bet a lot would take Orakpo over AH. If they had to go through the whole roster, the last one chosen, without a doubt, would be Port-o-let - old, slow and vastly overpriced.

Posted by: ArcticCat | November 20, 2009 9:36 AM | Report abuse

If they had to go through the whole roster, the last one chosen, without a doubt, would be Port-o-let - old, slow and vastly overpriced.

Posted by: ArcticCat | November 20, 2009 9:36 AM | Report abuse


TO would be the last one.

Clinton Tortoise would be second-to-last.

No one likes injured mouthy expensive team-second prima-donna types that aren't being productive.

Posted by: p1funk | November 20, 2009 9:41 AM | Report abuse

good F'N morning everyone and F the Cowboys, it is F'n Friday and we are going to F'n beat the Cowboys

Dexter Manley for President, wow, where has this blog gone...

Count my vote, maybe he can just bull rush the senate and scare the crap out of them, when he has gone on a 2 day binge, we might get some sh!t done.

Tell me that Snyder would not gain much respect from the folks on this blog and in Redskin nation if after we WON, he flipped the Double Bird to Jerry Jones!

Would be wonderful....F the Cowboys!

Posted by: mhartz1 | November 20, 2009 9:42 AM | Report abuse

I've been mad sick the last few days.

Posted by: RedDMV | November 20, 2009 9:33 AM |

I'll bet. 4th opened up a real big can of whup ass on you with "little Red riding my hood". Heh, heh.

Posted by: ArcticCat | November 20, 2009 9:45 AM | Report abuse

Dan and Jerry are homies, and Dan is just too soft to go Bud Adams in the booth.

Posted by: RedDMV | November 20, 2009 9:48 AM | Report abuse

I'd forgotten that Dexter Manley obliterated Danny White.

Maybe they can create a new trophy case in Redskins Park next to the one w/ the Lombardi trophies.

Only this one sports that scalps of Danny White, Troy Aikman, and any other Cowpie QB that a Redskins knocks into retirement.

Posted by: p1funk | November 20, 2009 9:48 AM | Report abuse

Mista Moe, your humor does not go unnoticed...anyone else going to the game on Sunday?

Posted by: mhartz1 | November 20, 2009 9:49 AM | Report abuse

Tell me that Snyder would not gain much respect from the folks on this blog and in Redskin nation if after we WON, he flipped the Double Bird to Jerry Jones!

Posted by: mhartz1 | November 20, 2009 9:42 AM | Report abuse


If only...

Sadly, Danny's more likely to get up in his box at FedEx and blaze the guns at the loyal paying Skins fans.

Posted by: p1funk | November 20, 2009 9:50 AM | Report abuse

It's a what have you done for me lately business so a concussed, overweight Portis has little use to the Skins.

BUT.. there's no way CP won't be remembered as one of the top 3 RBs in Skins history. For my $ it's:

Riggins
Larry Brown
Clinton Portis

If Portis can take us to a Super Bowl he leapfrogs Brown.

Posted by: elfreako | November 20, 2009 9:51 AM | Report abuse

My client in the Dallas area is taking me to the game and letting me in their suite, specifically asked me to not wear any Skins attire, lol...so I am wearing a pair of Skins Skidz pants, yellow and burgundy sweatshirt, hog face and a hat...should be interesting.

The bet for the game is dinner at Ruth Chris, minimum bill is $500. Last year I made out well.

Posted by: mhartz1 | November 20, 2009 9:53 AM | Report abuse

I actually hope Portis comes back next year with a vengeance and smaller contract and in shape.

If Betts blows up against Dallas, still think Zorn will have Betts at the top of the depth chart?

Posted by: mhartz1 | November 20, 2009 9:56 AM | Report abuse

Dan and Jerry are homies, and Dan is just too soft to go Bud Adams in the booth.

Posted by: RedDMV | November 20, 2009 9:48 AM |

Adams is senile. Whatever plagues Snyder, it ain't senility. The next owner to straighten his middle fingers? I'd put my $$$ on undead Al.

Posted by: ArcticCat | November 20, 2009 9:58 AM | Report abuse

The skins will do to the cowboys what Recyclops did to the environment.

Posted by: alex35332 | November 20, 2009 9:59 AM | Report abuse

If Betts blows up against Dallas, still think Zorn will have Betts at the top of the depth chart?

Posted by: mhartz1 | November 20, 2009 9:56 AM | Report abuse


I think right now JZ is doing his best impression of a politician.

All his talk about Tortoise being the undisputed #1 guy is happening when he knows full-well that Portis isn't going to be playing.

He can't totally marginalize Tortoise b/c he knows he'll be back next year...but will JZ??

I guess he's covering his bases.

Posted by: p1funk | November 20, 2009 9:59 AM | Report abuse

Just because Gruden signed with ESPN doesn't mean he is out of the running for a HC job. The contract probably has an out if the right situation comes along.

Posted by: skinfanman | November 20, 2009 9:59 AM | Report abuse

Just because Gruden signed with ESPN doesn't mean he is out of the running for a HC job. The contract probably has an out if the right situation comes along.

Posted by: skinfanman | November 20, 2009 9:59 AM | Report abuse

And the contract serves as added leverage in any negotiation.

"Look, I've got a contract with ESPN. It's gonna cost a little more for me to go to the trouble of breaking that."

Knowing the way Snerratto operates, they will be more than willing to make Gruden the highest paid coach ever.

Posted by: p1funk | November 20, 2009 10:02 AM | Report abuse

still think Zorn will have Betts at the top of the depth chart?

no..thats the problem with jz, is he's walking on eggshells, he's afraid of hurting someones feelings....maybe this was the kick in the pants that CP needs, at least one could hope it would be...someone mentioned that maybe putting him on IR, and having his bone spurs taken care of, now would be a good time to have that happen...

Posted by: BeantownGreg1 | November 20, 2009 10:02 AM | Report abuse

I'll bet. 4th opened up a real big can of whup ass on you with "little Red riding my hood". Heh, heh.

Posted by: ArcticCat


Hmm since you styling as one of 4th's groupies/hoes/b*tch*s, can you provide the thread that he so-called "opened a real big can"?

And that's classic 4th. Rip on a dude when he knows that it may be a good chance that I ain't posting that day. Not only is dude a bama, he an ol' pussee-azz bama. Dude is just salty that I called what it was going to be this season and he was the one holding on like some pussee whipped bama that can't let go of the chick that's stepping out on him.

What you up here co-signing for anyway, Artic? Ol' jock-itch on your chin having ass bama.

Posted by: RedDMV | November 20, 2009 10:03 AM | Report abuse

Now to be truthfull Portis has been an excellent back for this team when Riggo was in his heyday he didn't practice everyday(he's admitted as much) just played like a beast on Sunday.Clinton Portis does not have the hogs and still he has put up some amazing numbers and he pass blocks better than any back this team has had in the last decade,that being said he's outspoken and divissive to an extent but he's tough when it counts and plays hard when he is healthy truth be told they are going to need Portis if a playoff run is a reality for this squad.

Posted by: dargregmag | November 20, 2009 10:04 AM | Report abuse

He can't totally marginalize Tortoise b/c he knows he'll be back next year...but will JZ??

I guess he's covering his bases.

Posted by: p1funk | November 20, 2009 9:59 AM |

Do you actually think that after all the disarray, the limp dick O, the public humiliations, etc., that there is a rat's arse chance of Zorro returning next year?

Posted by: ArcticCat | November 20, 2009 10:06 AM | Report abuse

Jock itc on your chin, haha!

F the Cowboys!

Posted by: mhartz1 | November 20, 2009 10:08 AM | Report abuse

Posted by: dargregmag | November 20, 2009 10:04 AM | Report abuse

I'm a little weary of the Riggo - Clinton Tortoise comparisons that I see up here from time to time.

When Tortoise single-handedly wins a Superbowl game for the Skins, then let's have that discussion.

...not before.

Posted by: p1funk | November 20, 2009 10:08 AM | Report abuse

Full tilt weirdness on RI today - Dexter Manley as President? Well, why not?

Posted by: JohnDinHouston | November 20, 2009 10:10 AM | Report abuse

Playoff talk is ridic. But I would like to see Crisco come back and contribute. I hope he gets the chance here. I'd hate to see him blow up in Philly or NY.

Posted by: DikShuttle | November 20, 2009 10:10 AM | Report abuse

I think it would take Zorn winning out and somehow making the playoffs or winning the division for him to be here next year...so I think highly unlikely, but who knows what Snyder will do? Radio is still talking about a Gruden/ Allen as a team coming to Washington.

Posted by: mhartz1 | November 20, 2009 10:10 AM | Report abuse

"Now Betts and Spiller would be a platoon!!"


That's where I am.

Spiller is a Westbrook-type back and Betts is the pounding, wear them down type back.

It's a relationship not unlike the Jacobs-Ward situation the jints had.

Speed always compliments power in the NFL.

Plus: I don't see how platooning Portis with Betts works as Betts needs carries to get into a groove.

Portis limits what an offense can do.

Also: With Spiller and Betts on the field, you can line Spiller up in the slot or as a wide receiver, force the D to pull a safety out to cover him, and run Betts.

Why does this make so much sense?

Posted by: MistaMoe | November 20, 2009 10:11 AM | Report abuse

Do you actually think that after all the disarray, the limp dick O, the public humiliations, etc., that there is a rat's arse chance of Zorro returning next year?

Posted by: ArcticCat | November 20, 2009 10:06 AM | Report abuse


As long as Vinny is around, anything is possible.

JZ was Vinny's hire. I'm sure in his mind the best-case scenario is to get Sherm Lewis on the coaching staff full-time AND keep JZ around. That way, both of his selections "work out".

Of course all of this nonsense could end if (fingers crossed!) Danny steps to the plate and feeds Vinny to the sharks and brings in some competent football people.

Posted by: p1funk | November 20, 2009 10:11 AM | Report abuse

Dexter 72
Dallas 0

F Romo--and btw Romo, give that chick her boat back you worthless SOS. If you're not going to date her, that's fine...just don't keep the $100k gifts like you're some kind of pimp. Oh...wait a minute...you're starting QB for the Cowpukes...you ARE a pimp!

Message to the Skins players--Yes, it's been a difficult year. True, you haven't gotten the FO support you needed to shore up positions that clearly needed to be strengthened. Yes, the coaching situation has been one of two many cooks and a very spoiled broth. And you have no trouble looking around the locker room and spotting teammates you know are phoning it in on gameday.

But if the uniform you wear means anything to you besides a paycheck--if the history of this team and the support of its fans matters at all to you--you will go out there and thrash the living daylights out of Dallas. Show Wade and his boys that they personify the wonderful Texas adage: "All hat and no cattle."

Posted by: InRealAmerica | November 20, 2009 10:15 AM | Report abuse

KIND OF OFF TOPIC HERE BUT WHY IN THE WORLD DID WE SPEND A 3RD ROUND PICK ON KEVIN BARNES AND HE DOES NOT EVEN DRESS WE WASTED A PICK ON HIM AND WE COULD HAVE GOTTEN A QUALITY O-LINEMAN IM NOT BASHING MY TEAM BUT THAT JUST STICKS OUT AS THE MOST BONE-HEAD MOVE OF OUR OFF-SEASON JUST MY OPINION
HTTR!!! RIP #21 4EVER

Posted by: cpt55back | November 20, 2009 10:16 AM | Report abuse

KIND OF OFF TOPIC HERE BUT WHY IN THE WORLD DID WE SPEND A 3RD ROUND PICK ON KEVIN BARNES AND HE DOES NOT EVEN DRESS WE WASTED A PICK ON HIM AND WE COULD HAVE GOTTEN A QUALITY O-LINEMAN IM NOT BASHING MY TEAM BUT THAT JUST STICKS OUT AS THE MOST BONE-HEAD MOVE OF OUR OFF-SEASON JUST MY OPINION
HTTR!!! RIP #21 4EVER

Posted by: cpt55back | November 20, 2009 10:16 AM | Report abuse

KIND OF OFF TOPIC HERE BUT WHY IN THE WORLD DID WE SPEND A 3RD ROUND PICK ON KEVIN BARNES AND HE DOES NOT EVEN DRESS WE WASTED A PICK ON HIM AND WE COULD HAVE GOTTEN A QUALITY O-LINEMAN IM NOT BASHING MY TEAM BUT THAT JUST STICKS OUT AS THE MOST BONE-HEAD MOVE OF OUR OFF-SEASON JUST MY OPINION
HTTR!!! RIP #21 4EVER

Posted by: cpt55back | November 20, 2009 10:16 AM | Report abuse


While I feel your sentiment, Oline-griping season is over. We have to live with the craptastic group that Vinny assembled.

You're about 3 months late with this one...

Posted by: p1funk | November 20, 2009 10:18 AM | Report abuse

C'mon Moe - that's just wrong. CPo can catch great, when he's on.

I think we mostly agree that this year (and half of last) is a wash for Portis. But just a few weeks back he laid out almost 100 yards and if he didn't have bells ringing he coulda run behind those blocks last week too.

You guys are ignoring the hard runs Portis did put in for those where he went down quick after getting hit at or behind the line. Keep in mind Betts yardage after getting hit was when he had steam from not getting hit right off the line.

Last week was the best this O Line has played all season.

I understand the dumping on Portis. But the guy has played hard and you're wrong for not acknowledging that.
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And as far as Zoron coming back next year. I have to say, if he turns this around and wins 9 or 10 games AND there's no one else obvious who'd come in and do it better, we'll probably get one more season of the Hipster. or is it Hip Hip Horrayster?

Posted by: DikShuttle | November 20, 2009 10:20 AM | Report abuse

Posted by: cpt55back | November 20, 2009 10:16 AM

You're kidding right? You're talking about developing a 1st year player? The Skins wait til they are in the second year for that.

F dallas!

Posted by: Curzon417 | November 20, 2009 10:23 AM | Report abuse

what makes you think that this current collection of coach's has the ability to have the where-with-all to actually use Barnes properly. Rogers is getting roasted on a weekly basis it seems, but yet this guy can't sniff the field?? Suddenly they realize that DT/FD/MK, can catch the ball, and make things happen?? Jeremy Jarmon plays 8 snaps a game, and instead of using him more, we have 36 year old PDaniels with a busted bicep...Logic/Reason left the building a long time ago...

Posted by: BeantownGreg1 | November 20, 2009 10:23 AM | Report abuse

By the way....

F DALLAS

Posted by: JohnDinHouston | November 20, 2009 10:26 AM | Report abuse

It's a what have you done for me lately business so a concussed, overweight Portis has little use to the Skins.

BUT.. there's no way CP won't be remembered as one of the top 3 RBs in Skins history. For my $ it's:

Riggins
Larry Brown
Clinton Portis

If Portis can take us to a Super Bowl he leapfrogs Brown
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I would take Terry Allen of Portis any day. That guy rocked

Posted by: rupertpupkin | November 20, 2009 10:26 AM | Report abuse

How do you kow if CP is even a capable pass catching back if he hardly ever used in that capacity?

When Portis is in the game it's usually Portis run left, Portis pass protect.

Posted by: RedDMV | November 20, 2009 10:27 AM | Report abuse

Because I've seen it, Red. And you're right, they do harldy ever use him for that because of his blocking. If the line was better, more Portis receiving would be good.

I just thought the statement that Portis Limits Your Offense was a little off. I agree he isn't useable now, but that could change once he's healthy and motivated.

Posted by: DikShuttle | November 20, 2009 10:31 AM | Report abuse

I think if the team finishes 6-10, an argument can be made in keeping JZ and his staff, and bringing Sherm Lewis back. 6-10 means the team played .500 ball going against the toughest 2nd half schedule. All this w/o the players on IR, Cooley out for a month or more, CP out for a month (most likely). It'd bode well for the future. Even if the skins more on w/o JZ et al, finishing 6-10 will look good to prospective HC candidates as it will show that the skins cupboard isn't all bare.

Posted by: TWISI | November 20, 2009 10:34 AM | Report abuse

Since they didn't pull the trigger when it was itching, TWISI, I think you're probably right.

Posted by: DikShuttle | November 20, 2009 10:37 AM | Report abuse

guys if we all just stay medium this week we'll have one doggone good hip hip horraaaay afterwards...golly geez

Posted by: carsonspence | November 20, 2009 10:39 AM | Report abuse

guys if we all just stay medium this week we'll have one doggone good hip hip horraaaay afterwards...golly geez

Posted by: carsonspence | November 20, 2009 10:39 AM | Report abuse

If Portis were to workout in the off-season, practice with the team, and be willing to split carries with another RB, he'd have a career revitalization in D.C.

If he were to do those things. He'd prove a lot of people exaggerated his demise and shut the haters the hell up.

Posted by: RedDMV | November 20, 2009 10:43 AM | Report abuse

Hmm since you styling as one of 4th's groupies/hoes/b*tch*s, can you provide the thread that he so-called "opened a real big can"?

And that's classic 4th. Rip on a dude when he knows that it may be a good chance that I ain't posting that day.

Posted by: RedDMV | November 20, 2009 10:03 AM |

Here is the post that opened the whup ass can:

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Red's Moms = Lil Red Rides My Hood

Posted by: 4thFloor | November 17, 2009 4:10 PM |

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And you was posting that day - like a young Shaq. A post right before 4th's kill shot:

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And I'll explain to moms where those blisters on the inside of your left hand come from and why the left forearm is slightly bigger than the other.
Ol' Kanye West/Kirk Franklin type dude...

Posted by: RedDMV | November 17, 2009 3:47 PM |

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And then the silence was deathening. No reply. Nothing.

Posted by: ArcticCat | November 20, 2009 10:43 AM | Report abuse

A heavy dose of Felix Jones this Sunday

Jerry wants Felix to get the ball more
Posted by Michael David Smith on November 20, 2009 10:23 AM ET
Dallas Cowboys owner Jerry Jones has always loved Felix Jones.

Felix was a star running back at Arkansas, Jerry's alma mater, and Jerry chose Felix with the Cowboys' first-round pick in last year's NFL draft. In two NFL seasons, Felix has shown flashes of the blazing speed that Jerry fell in love with, but he has been hampered by injuries and hasn't become an integral part of the Cowboys' attack.

Jerry wants that to change.

"I certainly understand balance," Jerry told the Dallas Morning News. "But I'd sure like to see him with the ball more."

So far this season Felix has 66 touches: 44 carries for 304 yards, four catches for 56 yards and 18 kickoff returns for 372 yards.

Felix suffered a sprained knee this season, but Jerry says he's healthy now and that the coaches agree with him that the Cowboys' offense needs to make him a bigger part of the game plan, especially in situations when Felix will get the ball in space with room to take advantage of his speed.

"We need to get him in situations outside, or where he has a little space, and we'll see some of that," Jones said. "It's not a frustrating thing. It's a tactical thing."

Posted by: TWISI | November 20, 2009 10:45 AM | Report abuse

red, agreed on CP, I think at this point, less would be better for him. If he can get the spurs taken care of, and get in shape, then I'm all for a platoon system with betts. Lets be honest, this team needs to spend its 1st and 2nd picks on OL, LT, then RT, and not on RB. Pick a RB in the later rounds, if at all...

Betts is 30, but he's a young 30 because of the lack of carries he's had....

Posted by: BeantownGreg1 | November 20, 2009 10:47 AM | Report abuse

Yeh, I don't think I'd go that far w/ CPo's return. If he takes less $$ and produces while towing the party line some, he'd be ok.

But you're not going to change who he is. And that seems to be what people have a problem with.

I think it might be more likely that we'll just jettison him and his high salary in the capless season.

Posted by: DikShuttle | November 20, 2009 10:50 AM | Report abuse

Posted by: cpt55back | November 20, 2009 10:16 AM | Report abuse

3rd rounders typically don't start and typically are in need of development. Barnes is a pretty good prospect and he was chosen as the heir apparant in the evnt that Carlos Rogers leaves us. Barnes has the size to become an elite cover corner and actually takle the big boys when the run to the sidelines. I'm sure he was drafted with images of barber and jacobs running over rogers and smoot in mind. He is in need of devleopment but could turn out to be a real steal. Best of all, he can actually catch!! I don't think it's fair to say he's a waste of a pick. I can easily see him taking over for Los. With Hall and Tryon now coming on Barnes has the oppurtunity to make this a dangerous secondary. I'm with the crowd that wants to see Barnes and Lendy Holmes playing on gameday. We aren't going to the playoffs this year so lets see what these young bucks got!!!

Posted by: PAskinsfan17 | November 20, 2009 10:51 AM | Report abuse

F Dallas.
Beat Dallas.
Dallas Sucks.
Cowgirls.
I hate Dallas.

Posted by: Club320 | November 20, 2009 10:57 AM | Report abuse

I just don't see how Zorn stays. I think in his mind, this isn't the job he signed up for, and at some point the team has to move on.
I also think his demeanor isn't pro-quality (not just too medium, it's too passive-aggressive) and the fact that things have improved on offense is a huge indictment. I've been impressed that the team is still fighting under him, but they also came into the season unprepared - both from a conditioning perspective and from a personnel perspective. You can put that entirely on Vinnie if you want, but I find it hard to believe that Vinnie told Zorn that he had to take Will Montgomery over Jeremy Bridges.
The Sherm thing is interesting. He's not a long term solution, I doubt you'll see him here after the season. But, Vinnie can make a case that he was a real solid solution to a problem that had no decent or reasonable answers. At the end of the season -- irrespective of their W-L record -- if Sherm is effective on offense with these same people that Zorn foundered with against the Rams-Lions-Cheeves of the world, then Vinnie can say "Zorn was the problem, these people I picked can be effective. I made the Zorn pick, but when I realized it was a mistake I took action."
I'm not saying that's correct, and this is certainly a "Vinnie-built team" and not a "well-built team". But if Dan was deeply involved in the Zorn pick (and that was certainly how if was portrayed at the time), then the go/no go decision on Vinnie is not as simple as "your coach pick is FAIL".

Posted by: daggar | November 20, 2009 11:00 AM | Report abuse

"When Portis is in the game it's usually Portis run left, Portis pass protect."


You forgot: "Portis runs into Sellars' back."

Posted by: MistaMoe | November 20, 2009 11:01 AM | Report abuse

red, agreed on CP, I think at this point, less would be better for him. If he can get the spurs taken care of, and get in shape, then I'm all for a platoon system with betts. Lets be honest, this team needs to spend its 1st and 2nd picks on OL, LT, then RT, and not on RB. Pick a RB in the later rounds, if at all...

Betts is 30, but he's a young 30 because of the lack of carries he's had....

Posted by: BeantownGreg1 | November 20, 2009 10:47 AM | Report abuse

Now depending on the scheme we are going to run I agree or disagree with your draft strategy.

If we stay WCO then I think drafting big maulers in the first two rounds is a bad idea. WCO zone blockers are usually available in the later rounds. In the event that we stay WCO I think Spiller in the first and then maybe Charles Brown in the second and Selvish Capers in the 4th.

If we decide to go back to smashmouth then yes we need Okung or Williams in the first and maybe Anthony Davis in the second.

Note: If Bryan Bulaga is on the board we pick him no matter what. I think he could play both schemes effectively.

Posted by: PAskinsfan17 | November 20, 2009 11:02 AM | Report abuse

And then the silence was deathening. No reply. Nothing.

Posted by: ArcticCat


I knew you come through for your man, you ol' nut-hugging bama. I don't know if you're familiar with something called CLOSE OF BUSINESS or LEAVING WORK, but I usually dip at 4PM, you know, from my job and all... Because, you know, I do work and have a job and stuff.

Since you claim to keep tabs on who's dicking who on RI, ol' OMG! reading, TMZ watching azz bama, you should know that there has NEVER been a time that someone so-called dissin' went unanswered from me. And since I don't read previous threads like that (unless I'm bored) I wouldn't know who was up here throwing rocks at the kid. Every now and then I get home and blog during the week, and then I respond from posts from work.

So how about you ask some questions first instead of assuming and making a complete c*ck-riding jackass out yourself? But you're probably too busy wiping 4th's ball juice from the corners of your mouth.

Posted by: RedDMV | November 20, 2009 11:05 AM | Report abuse

Moe - how 'bout Portis runs for 5 yards and gets drilled in the head by two simultaneous illegal spear-hits?

Or Portis runs for the second longest rush of his Redskin career?

Or Portis puts up the only other [almost] 100 yard game of the season.

Sure, he follows his blockers... they're supposed to BLOCK remember? Like they did for Betts & Rock last week...

At least Red & Bean (and rice?!?) are putting a realistic slant on it. You're just focusing on the negative. I didn't have you pegged for a pileon, but I guess I'm wrong.

Posted by: DikShuttle | November 20, 2009 11:06 AM | Report abuse

Note to Rak: take the time to blow up felix on his way to the flat while you are on your way to azz planting romo. Rinse. Repeat.

Posted by: SkinsfaninKaneohe | November 20, 2009 11:09 AM | Report abuse

Maybe the team could get both LaVar Arrington and Dexter Manley in to speak to the defense before the game. They could tell the team the best way to end a Dallas QB's career. I don't want to see physical harm come to Romo Homo, but I... no wait, I do want to see physical harm. Mexx him up guys. It's Dallas. All sorts of lethal hits will endear you to the Redskins fans.

Posted by: RedSkinHead | November 20, 2009 11:14 AM | Report abuse

Depends on if Haynesworth plays. NO double-team on Haynesworth, no push up the middle ... less sack opportunities for Carter and Orapko. Now you call the safety, corner blitz packages. Risky with this new Pearl Harbor crew defense.

Posted by: periculum | November 20, 2009 11:15 AM | Report abuse

So how about you ask some questions first instead of assuming and making a complete c*ck-riding jackass out yourself? But you're probably too busy wiping 4th's ball juice from the corners of your mouth.

Posted by: RedDMV | November 20, 2009 11:05 AM |
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LOL... Red is in rare form today.

This is good. Everyone should be edgy going into the Dallas game.

I hope we score 42.

F Dallas.

Posted by: MrRedskin21 | November 20, 2009 11:15 AM | Report abuse

dikshuttle

"You're just focusing on the negative."


True.

I will not post another negative thing about Clinton Portis again.

Promise.

But I will say this in conclusion: some teams are smart enough to look at a star player and see that his shine is about to go dim.

And they find a way to part with him.

The chargers are there with Ladanien Tomilinson.

The chiefs were there with Larry Johnson.

It would be negative to say the skins are not there with Clinton Portis.

So I won't.

Posted by: MistaMoe | November 20, 2009 11:16 AM | Report abuse

But you're probably too busy wiping 4th's ball juice from the corners of your mouth.

Posted by: RedDMV | November 20, 2009 11:05 AM |

Hey dude. I didn't tax your gig, 4th did. If you have issues, take it up with him.

Posted by: ArcticCat | November 20, 2009 11:18 AM | Report abuse

If they draft Spiller with this offensive line, or any new addition to the plethora of skill player draft picks that have yet to produce: ends with Spiller on injured reserve with multiple concussions.
They absolutely have to draft OL and not be distracted as they were last year with silly "beasts". AND NO, in spite of the positive spin Maese tries to put on it; THE "D" is decidedly worst this year. There are plenty of "beasts", but not enough run stoppers and shutdown cornerbacks.

Posted by: periculum | November 20, 2009 11:19 AM | Report abuse

pa, wco, or not, I want road graders on the line....

Posted by: BeantownGreg1 | November 20, 2009 11:22 AM | Report abuse

If they draft Spiller with this offensive line, or any new addition to the plethora of skill player draft picks that have yet to produce: ends with Spiller on injured reserve with multiple concussions.

They absolutely have to draft OL and not be distracted as they were last year with silly "beasts". AND NO, in spite of the positive spin Maese tries to put on it; THE "D" is decidedly worst this year. There are plenty of "beasts", but not enough run stoppers and shutdown cornerbacks.

Posted by: periculum | November 20, 2009 11:19 AM | Report abuse

"beasts" is just a way of describing someone who can dominate the game.

The redskins just need to focus on drafting beasts that play offense.

And if Spiller can bring something similar to what Chris Johnson brings to the Tenn. offense then I say draft the dude, cuz Chris Johnson is a beast.

Posted by: PortisPocketsStr8 | November 20, 2009 11:24 AM | Report abuse

Skins did not win Sunday playing WCO football. Get some big OL and start playing smash mouth football.

Trent Williams in rd 1.

F dallas!

Posted by: Curzon417 | November 20, 2009 11:25 AM | Report abuse

A pissed redskin is pitching and a submissive cowboy is receiving.


Postd by MistaMoe


Nice work Moe, you just called the Redskins gay, aggressive sodomites and rapists.

Keep on keepin' it classy, guy.

Posted by: TheCork | November 20, 2009 11:28 AM | Report abuse

It would be negative to say the skins are not there with Clinton Portis.

So I won't.

Posted by: MistaMoe | November 20, 2009 11:16 AM | Report abuse

It's cool, Moe. I'll say it for you: we have a reactive FO, not a proactive one. Remember Parcells, when he was working for ESPN, saying he watched film of Jon Jansen and he had lost a step and was on the decline of his career? Took us until last season to figure that out.

CP's lost a step -- whether it's b/c of all the beating he's taken from so many carries while Gibbs was here, a lack of motivation and conditioning, the offensive line, coaching / scheme, or a combination of all of the above. Most everyone else can see it...except for Danny and Vinny...

Posted by: mattylight | November 20, 2009 11:29 AM | Report abuse

Last week we told you about young Will Phillips, a boy who refuses to pledge allegiance to the flag and the United States of America until gays and lesbians are allowed to marry. While Will is finding support from op-ed columnists and his parents, the kids at school are not as kind. They are harassing Will and calling him a "gaywad."

Well, last night Jon Stewart decided to do something about it. After praising this precocious 10-year-old, he decided the boy must be protected so he brought out professional wrestler Mick Foley to delver a message:

"Leave him be or you will feel my hands as they wrap onto your small intestines and use you as a human tetherball."

Posted by: Chia_Pet | November 20, 2009 11:30 AM | Report abuse

But you're probably too busy wiping 4th's ball juice from the corners of your mouth.

Posted by: RedDMV | November 20, 2009 11:05 AM |

Ah yes, more First Rate rhetoric from another imagery-challenged poster. When you can't be clever, homosexual riffs are just the most reliable default ever, eh Red?

Posted by: TheCork | November 20, 2009 11:31 AM | Report abuse

But you're probably too busy wiping 4th's ball juice from the corners of your mouth.

Posted by: RedDMV | November 20, 2009 11:05 AM |

Cretin. If it's juice you want you got the wrong sex organ.

Posted by: BiggerVance | November 20, 2009 11:31 AM | Report abuse

Reading the comments here shows that the intelligence level of you Redskins fans is even lower than we thought. Many of you deserve the product you have been watching on the field the last few years. You will get your butts kicked on Sunday and probably every Sunday the rest of the year. And you can be sure us Cowboy fans are enjoying every moment :-)

Posted by: CA_Cowboy | November 20, 2009 11:34 AM | Report abuse

showtime....

Posted by: BeantownGreg1 | November 20, 2009 11:35 AM | Report abuse

Reading the comments here shows that the intelligence level of you Redskins fans is even lower than we thought. Many of you deserve the product you have been watching on the field the last few years. You will get your butts kicked on Sunday and probably every Sunday the rest of the year. And you can be sure us Cowboy fans are enjoying every moment :-)

Posted by: CA_Cowboy | November 20, 2009 11:34 AM | Report abuse

And you guys have done what over the past 10 years? If your answer is "more than you", you're just lame. Win a playoff game, then come talk to me...F Dallas...

Posted by: mattylight | November 20, 2009 11:37 AM | Report abuse

Schefter believes in Lewis, but there is more to it

But is it all Lewis? No. Lewis has made an impact. The play calling is better, more efficient, particularly in the red zone. But, Lewis is also getting some things Zorn was not.

I attribute the offensive generation the past two weeks to a more effective run game, attributed of course to Ladell Betts and Rock Cartwright. I think this is underestimated. The Redskins are running the ball effectively. Betts has burst. Betts is not going down on initial hits. Betts is gaining 6 to 8 yards a pop at times. That causes changes in defensive game plans. In response, the passing game opens a bit.

Second, the patchwork, injury riddled, MASH unit of an offensive line is actually playing a bit better the past two weeks. The holes they opened against the Denver defense was impressive. Makes you wonder though, are they opening wider lanes, better holes now, or was Clinton Portis just missing them? The pass protection for QB Jason Campbell is not very good. BUT, it is better the last few weeks than it has been. It seems like when the ‘aging’ starters were in, the Line did not play as well.


http://dcprosportsreport.com/2009/11/20/schefter-believes-in-lewis-but-there-is-more-to-it.html

Posted by: Curzon417 | November 20, 2009 11:38 AM | Report abuse

But you're probably too busy wiping 4th's ball juice from the corners of your mouth.

Posted by: RedDMV | November 20, 2009 11:05 AM |

Ah yes, more First Rate rhetoric from another imagery-challenged poster. When you can't be clever, homosexual riffs are just the most reliable default ever, eh Red?

Posted by: TheCork | November 20, 2009 11:31 AM |

Him and this MistaMoe steamer. If you edge on them they respond with puerile barbs that even a 13 yr old would disown.

Posted by: BiggerVance | November 20, 2009 11:39 AM | Report abuse

Let me be the first to say that before one can demonstrate respect for others, one must first have self respect.

Without this, my fellow hamsters, everyone is a comedian and all "jokes" are funny.

Posted by: Chia_Pet | November 20, 2009 11:42 AM | Report abuse

I'm still crackin' up over the "Tony Homo" riff.

Damn, that's funny.

Posted by: Chia_Pet | November 20, 2009 11:45 AM | Report abuse

horse = dead

Posted by: BeantownGreg1 | November 20, 2009 11:46 AM | Report abuse

I'm still crackin' up over the "Tony Homo" riff.

Damn, that's funny.

Posted by: Chia_Pet | November 20, 2009 11:45 AM | Report abuse

who invited the ACLU?

Posted by: PortisPocketsStr8 | November 20, 2009 11:48 AM | Report abuse

Matthew Shepard = Dead

Posted by: Chia_Pet | November 20, 2009 11:50 AM | Report abuse

Let me be the first to say that I could care less what the fargin' comedians and multi slackers on da blog think.

Ya'll make me sick.

Posted by: Chia_Pet | November 20, 2009 11:53 AM | Report abuse

Have yourself a good cry last night before you went to bed Chia? Dude, you need to let it go…..the phrase Tony Homo is here to stay, just like any and every cowboy troll is sure to call the Skins “Deadskins” or foreskins” in every other sentence. It’s just a fun way to razz the other team and it’s fans. Nobody is using it as a gaybashing slur. Get over it…..

Posted by: dlhaze1 | November 20, 2009 11:54 AM | Report abuse

Hey Mighty... any why is your response which is pretty much the same as "more than you" not considered lame??? LOL! Don't contradict yourself. You tried to BUY a Super Bowl to go along with the 2 Strike Bowls and I think one legit Super Bowl.

Lately? You really want to go there?
See it is funny how you and others cutoff the line so conveniently. The only team/fans that have a RIGHT to such a statement are the GIANTS. If you want to talk LATELY. Your team hasn't done anything longer than the Cowboys. And of course the Super Bowl LESS Eagles.

Oh... and change the name. You aren't doing Native Americans proud by any means. LOL! Besides that it is racist and yes I'm part Native American. So don't try that fake line with me.

By the way... Ortons absence was the only reason you won. So stock on tissue for Saturday.
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Reading the comments here shows that the intelligence level of you Redskins fans is even lower than we thought. Many of you deserve the product you have been watching on the field the last few years. You will get your butts kicked on Sunday and probably every Sunday the rest of the year. And you can be sure us Cowboy fans are enjoying every moment :-)

Posted by: CA_Cowboy | November 20, 2009 11:34 AM | Report abuse

And you guys have done what over the past 10 years? If your answer is "more than you", you're just lame. Win a playoff game, then come talk to me...F Dallas...

Posted by: mattylight | November 20, 2009 11:37 AM | Report abuse

Posted by: bbg_isback | November 20, 2009 11:56 AM | Report abuse

Let me be the first to say that I could care less what the fargin' comedians and multi slackers on da blog think.

Ya'll make me sick.

Posted by: Chia_Pet | November 20, 2009 11:53 AM | Report abuse

We get it you're a card carrying member of GLAAD.

Posted by: PortisPocketsStr8 | November 20, 2009 11:56 AM | Report abuse

Arctic, if you can't play with the big boys then watch from behind the fence or take your ass home. You came up here co-signing, and you got checked on that s***, you dig? Nothing serious, but it was like you jumped into a fight and caught one on the chin, don't trip...

BUT...

Cork, why don't you f*** off and take your RI conscience wannabe having ass elsewhere. I swear your bs gets so damn old. You always chest out about how we should carry it up here, and you turn around and do the same s***. F you! Keep my motherf-ing name off your post and s*** can the "Holier than thou" bs. You ain't s*** homeboy, but some wanna be bs journalist posting up here all the damn day with the rest of the morally challenged. Kiss my ass! Go f*** your mother! And if that hoe dead, go exhume her dead ass.

Sorry, but I'm tired of your s***. Your punk-ass always got something to say when I'm rifting up here and you don't have S*** to do with it! I mean GOD, did your wife leave you? Kids don't come and visit? Mommy and Daddy abandoned you? Feeling neglected much? Take your old tired ass somewhere and take a nap. As much as you think you are, your NOT relevant up here. If Cockczar stopped posting, no one would miss you old pathetic ass. GO AWAY!

Get off you goddamn high horse d0uchebag. F you! Is that clever enough for you, b*t*h? Always got RedDMV on your mind like I'm throwing you the dick. Get off my sh** already.

Posted by: RedDMV | November 20, 2009 11:56 AM | Report abuse

Let me be the first to say that I could care less what the fargin' comedians and multi slackers on da blog think.

Ya'll make me sick.

Posted by: Chia_Pet | November 20, 2009 11:53 AM

Based on the number of comments on the Romo subject, you care way too much. You made your point 20 comments ago.

Posted by: Skins930 | November 20, 2009 11:57 AM | Report abuse

dlhaze,

Wow.

Pretending to be ignorant, or did you learn that from your ma and pa?

Posted by: Chia_Pet | November 20, 2009 11:58 AM | Report abuse

Yawn.
Skins 930 nailed it.
Go cry and whine some more, even though you don't care....

Posted by: dlhaze1 | November 20, 2009 12:00 PM | Report abuse

Blogging grduges - let em go dudes. This isn't about you. It's about the Burgundy and Gold. Or at least I thought it was...too often I feel like I'm tuning into a Jerry Springer transcript. Jeezusss

Anyhow, onto the SKins...I think we have a real shot, IF 92 plays. If he can't collapse the pocket, make the Boys run on the edge and free up 99 and 98 to rush Romo, we could be in for a long day. But if ALbert is Phat, we can rattle Romo and force some turnovers. Looking for an 89 sighting, he seems to step up against the vile Cowpokes. HAIL

Posted by: Notorious_LMG | November 20, 2009 12:00 PM | Report abuse

dlhaze1... I only call them deadskins depending on what I'm responding too. Never used the other wording. Don't hear too much 'Tony Homo'. New to me and I talk plenty of trash with all football fans.

I think that comes from people being jealous he was with Jessica. ;)

I normally refer to them as skins or Washington. In either case the fans remind me of Sarah Palins follower Liz Hassleback. DIZZY!!!!! LOL!

Posted by: bbg_isback | November 20, 2009 12:01 PM | Report abuse

Just some observations....

If the players were to have given up on Coach Zorn, they've have already done so. The fact that they didn't says much about the man, Zorn, and provided there is a General Manager (not Vinnie) who knows talent and can analyze weaknesses of the team and correct them, then perhaps Zorn should be given one more year. Based upon what I'm seeing about coaching choices, we've pretty much blown who we could have gotten with the dysfunction of this season. Keeping Zorn and his staff would allow for us to see what Zorn has for head coaching abilities.

Please don't misunderstand me - I'm no fan of Zorn and his medium-ness, but this team has potential and perhaps this situation has given us a chance to see some of the causes of lack of performance on offense and we can remove/correct them; also we've seen some players step up - whether by choice or by situation.

Will Zorn ever lead us to the Super Bowl? I doubt it, but if he's kept this mess together with a chance to actually beat Dallas (two weeks ago this couldn't have happened), then maybe he will get us to the playoffs next year. And depending how he manages this situation with motivation and esprit decor of the unit, maybe we can back into the playoffs this year as other teams fade.

Keys to cowboys game - incessant and rough pressure on Romo; shut down receivers and make overpaid Williams beat you. Offense, run like the last six quarters, roll Campbell out of the pocket; continue to involve Sellers and Second Tight end in passing plays instead of blocking for running back. Another gauge of performance in this game is if there are more than six players having receptions - this team will lose if there are four or fewer in the passing game.

Prediction - Redskin Upset: Redskins 24, Dallas 16

Posted by: laserwizard | November 20, 2009 12:02 PM | Report abuse

BiggerVance, if you don't wanna get bit don't feed the animals. wouldn't be a need to carry it like that, if people just didn't mix in or up with others up here.

F*** you, suck my d***.

Now I'm even sure that a comeback a 13 year old has owned up to before. Why don't you and Cork hold a two man session and figure out a way to get the homies Moe and Red banned?

Posted by: RedDMV | November 20, 2009 12:04 PM | Report abuse

Better to care too much than to not give a hoot at all, Skins930.

Ya, I know this is a football blog, and tolerance is anathema, and we all like to have a good ole laugh.

and PortisPocket, I know internet threats are lame and I am truly loathe to make any, but in your case, I might consider making an exception.

For the love of God, where do people like ya'll learn this sh*t from?


Posted by: Chia_Pet | November 20, 2009 12:06 PM | Report abuse

Why is it that the most obscene and hateful folks always seem to win the day?

Is it because they can yell louder than anyone?

Are conscionable people afraid?

To all you dunderheads, who seem to rule the roost up here:

Have fun with your blog.

Posted by: Chia_Pet | November 20, 2009 12:09 PM | Report abuse

Don't hear too much 'Tony Homo'. New to me and I talk plenty of trash with all football fans.

I think that comes from people being jealous he was with Jessica. ;)

Posted by: bbg_isback | November 20, 2009 12:01 PM

Jessica and jealous don't really belong in the same sentence. Jessica = bovine bimbo.

Posted by: League-Source | November 20, 2009 12:09 PM | Report abuse

dlhaze1... I only call them deadskins depending on what I'm responding too. Never used the other wording. Don't hear too much 'Tony Homo'. New to me and I talk plenty of trash with all football fans.
I think that comes from people being jealous he was with Jessica. ;)
I normally refer to them as skins or Washington. In either case the fans remind me of Sarah Palins follower Liz Hassleback. DIZZY!!!!! LOL!
Posted by: bbg_isback | November 20, 2009 12:01 PM

That’s cool…..It’s just so easy to change the R to an H….until someone named Harry Bagina joins the ranks of NFL players, Tony is just gonna have to live with being razzed as such. I know I’m jealous of the chicks he’s tagged. Just havin’ some fun.

Posted by: dlhaze1 | November 20, 2009 12:09 PM | Report abuse

Bigger pressue should be on Blatche for this Sunday's game as the key will getting pressure on Romo and creating TO's. With essentially a rookie RT, Blatche should be able to devise schemes to overload that side with Orakpo, Haynesworth (if he plays), and Carter to create pressure. The other key will be to make sure the secondary doesn't give up any deep balls to Crayton or Austin. If we can hold Dallas to 17 points or less, this is a winnable game but we'll need a big play or two from the defense and special teams.

Posted by: wizfan89 | November 20, 2009 12:15 PM | Report abuse

Bigger pressue should be on Blatche for this Sunday's game as the key will getting pressure on Romo and creating TO's. With essentially a rookie RT, Blatche should be able to devise schemes to overload that side with Orakpo, Haynesworth (if he plays), and Carter to create pressure. The other key will be to make sure the secondary doesn't give up any deep balls to Crayton or Austin. If we can hold Dallas to 17 points or less, this is a winnable game but we'll need a big play or two from the defense and special teams.
Posted by: wizfan89 | November 20, 2009 12:15 PM

Echoing this morning’s print article, they are also going to need to do everything possible to make sure that Orakpo doesn’t end up in single coverage on Witten when he isn’t playing DE…..that’s kind of scary.

Posted by: dlhaze1 | November 20, 2009 12:19 PM | Report abuse

The blog is off the chain today.

"... then exhume her ass".

That line took that rant to another level. Nice.

PS. FU to all you faggedy azzed boy lovers trolling up on here.

Sorry chia, couldn't resist.
PPS Some guys like to go down on each other, some guys like to make fun of that kind of thing. Get over it.

Posted by: SkinsfaninKaneohe | November 20, 2009 12:20 PM | Report abuse

Dear Santa,

This year, we ask you to give our presents to someone else.

Regardless of your elves decision to give Vinny Cerrato another lump of coal this year, please give Vinny a pink slip.

Merry Christmas,

Redskin Fans

Posted by: clandestinetomcat | November 20, 2009 12:20 PM | Report abuse

"For JZ to ignore what the offense has done since Sherm took over, is to ignore the so very obvious....

Posted by: BeantownGreg1"

From ESPN.com

When Washington hired Sherman Lewis to call its plays, he was mocked and criticized. The amount of ridicule was shortsighted and mean-spirited, particularly for a man as accomplished as Smith -- a former offensive coordinator for the Green Bay Packers, Minnesota Vikings and Detroit Lions.

Now that Lewis has had three games to call Washington's plays, check out how the Redskins' offensive production compares. In the first six games of the season, the Redskins averaged 12.4 points per game; in the past three games, they have averaged 20.3. In the first six games, the Redskins averaged 16 first downs per game; in the past three games, they have averaged 20. In the first six games, the Redskins averaged 294 yards per game; in the past three, they have averaged 336.

The average rank of the defenses the Redskins played in the first six weeks was 21st; the average rank of the defenses the Redskins played in the past three weeks was 13th. And in the past three weeks the Redskins have been without offensive linemen Chris Samuels and Randy Thomas, tight end Chris Cooley and running back Clinton Portis for one game. So when the Redskins brought aboard Lewis to call plays, there really was one word to describe it -- bingo.

Posted by: psps23 | November 20, 2009 12:24 PM | Report abuse

Interesting. Are any of you guys hanging out on the Cowboy's blogs, posting romo-phobic comments to rile up the base?

I guess my fellow Texans just have a lot of time to waste.

Posted by: JohnDinHouston | November 20, 2009 12:26 PM | Report abuse

So it's one of those days on the RI...duck and cover!

...F Dallas...

Posted by: mattylight | November 20, 2009 12:27 PM | Report abuse

psps23, I think it goes beyond playcalling. He is having plays put in that zorn refused to. Plays that are using the players strengths and attacking the D. IMO, the game planning has also improved.


And in case no one has said it, F dallas!

Posted by: Curzon417 | November 20, 2009 12:31 PM | Report abuse

Okay, to keep Chia happy we will now only refer to Tony Romo as "Tony-of-the-alternative-lifestyle,not-that-there's-anything-wrong-with-that-Homo".

Posted by: RedSkinHead | November 20, 2009 12:33 PM | Report abuse

to keep Chia happy

water.
sunlight.
a place on the windowsill that also affords access to the HDTV.
that's all you need.

Posted by: daggar | November 20, 2009 12:36 PM | Report abuse

theCork

"..you just called the Redskins gay, aggressive sodomites and rapists. Keep on keepin' it classy, guy."


For christmas I'm getting you an English teacher.

You see, I didn't '...call...' anybody anything.

What you read into what anyone posts really reflects on you, doesn't it?

I was using an image to effect the idea of humiliation and dominance.

Anyone who can read would understand this.

Plus: rather than spend all day surfing posts for things to complain about, why not try being original and offering up something to say rather than hating on folks.

Or do you just like being a catcher on the sly?

Posted by: MistaMoe | November 20, 2009 12:36 PM | Report abuse

Yep, it's pretty obvious that Zorn wasn't and isn't ready to be a head coach (or for that matter, an offensive coordinator), and Sherm Lewis is only beginning to scratch the surface of what this team was actually capable of when healthy. The biggest thing about it is that Sherm is doing it with a smidgen of the talent that Zorn had, considering we're now playing sans 4 starters on offense (and down 3 pro-bowlers).

Posted by: psps23 | November 20, 2009 12:39 PM | Report abuse

psps23,
Thanks for posting that Sherm Lewis write-up. I think it just reinforces what everyone's intuition has told them: Sherm Lewis has made a difference. I hate the fact that this makes Zorn seem dumber for not having called the right plays in the first place, and Cerrato seem smarter for realizing Zorn's deficiencies and bringing in Lewis, but I guess they both cannot come across as being idiots all of the time.

Oh, and F- Dallas and Tony-of-the-alternative-lifestyle,not-that-there's-anything-wrong-with-that-Homo

Posted by: RedSkinHead | November 20, 2009 12:39 PM | Report abuse

**...and Sherm Lewis is only beginning to scratch the surface of what this team was actually capable of when healthy.**

PSP23

That almost sounds like what Vinny said about a playoff roster.

Posted by: Curzon417 | November 20, 2009 12:43 PM | Report abuse

What's up with all this talk about cowboys and homos? I was looking for Redskins Insider but I guess found the script for brokeback mountain instead.

Posted by: PAskinsfan17 | November 20, 2009 12:44 PM | Report abuse

beep beep

Posted by: Curzon417 | November 20, 2009 12:45 PM | Report abuse

Moe et al,

I'm not disagreeing w/ your conclusion, only how you got to it. Credit where credit is due.

...or at least come clean about why you're dissin' 'em.

btw - THIS is AWESMOE!

Posted by: DikShuttle | November 20, 2009 12:46 PM | Report abuse

Consensus here seems to be that Sherm Lewis is a good play caller. We beat Denver using Redskin(smash-mouth)football. Does this mean that Vinny and the West Coast are toast?

Posted by: Keyskonnection | November 20, 2009 12:51 PM | Report abuse

WTF? I thought this is suppose to be F dallas week? what's up with all these lame- ass posters about homos, illiterates and what not? Keep it clean... F dallas!

Posted by: bhoang888 | November 20, 2009 1:26 PM | Report abuse

Consensus here seems to be that Sherm Lewis is a good play caller. We beat Denver using Redskin(smash-mouth)football. Does this mean that Vinny and the West Coast are toast?

Posted by: Keyskonnection | November 20, 2009 12:51 PM | Report abuse
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There is another possibility here. Zorn could simply be more free to watch the execution of the offense. Every one in RI was ready to explode after 2 frustrating games, and - lo and behold - in his second game of watching this stink tank, Zorn blows up at halftime (during the Falcons). Go figure.

So sure, maybe Vinny's plan worked out. Vinny still looks stupid for picking a coach who can't see past his own play-calling, and he looks REALLY stupid for saying we had play-off talent given the state of our O-line, RBS, and DBs (safeties included). Or maybe we have the talent but not the coaching. Anyway the cookie crumbles, Vinny is playing the butt-tuba.

Posted by: mattsoundworld | November 20, 2009 2:01 PM | Report abuse

Hello, my name is Brian and I'll be your sacker today

Our specials are: QB Hurries, Covered Ribs, and Cracked Sternums

Enjoy your game; Tip your trainer

Posted by: kahlua87 | November 20, 2009 2:49 PM | Report abuse

Everyone pray the entire Dallas Cowgirls offensive line comes down with swine flu. I wanna see Romo cry!

Posted by: jjhare | November 20, 2009 3:10 PM | Report abuse

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