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Thomas, Kelly lay it on the line

After the 27-17 loss to the Philadelphia Eagles, second-year wide receiver Devin Thomas spoke out, essentially saying the Redskins' offense could not succeed because of the line's poor pass protection.

Second-year wide receiver Malcolm Kelly recently expressed concern for quarterback Jason Campbell, saying he shouldn't shoulder the blame for the problems with Washington's ineffective offense.

"I do feel sorry for him and I say that all the time," Kelly said. "He takes all the heat because that's all they [the fans] see. They look at him and say, 'He's not completing the pass.' Or the say, 'He's taking too long to throw the ball.' But what they don't realize if that if he hikes the ball and there's somebody in his face ... I mean, I don't care who you put back there.

"You can put whoever back there, you can put Joe Montana back there, if he can't throw the ball, he's not going to be able to hit anybody. He's not going to be able to hit any receivers. It's a tough situation because he takes the heat for all of us."

Thomas, in part, spoke in frustration, but Kelly understood where he was coming from. "I totally understand what he meant by that," he said. "The thing about offense is 11 guys have to go out there and get it done. If they protect him and we don't get open then that's our fault. It goes back and forth, but it does make the situation harder when that [poor protection] is the case. All they [fans] want to see is you going on there and making catches, but you can be running down the field and is doesn't matter if he doesn't" have time to throw the ball.

By Jason Reid  |  November 2, 2009; 10:40 AM ET
Categories:  Jason Reid  
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Comments

Same old story...ugh.

Posted by: oh_boy1 | November 2, 2009 11:03 AM | Report abuse

First to say Throw it to my team ~

Posted by: ThrowItToMyTeam | November 2, 2009 11:05 AM | Report abuse

"Cerrato, Washington's executive vice president of football operations, defended the roster he assembled and essentially placed blame for the Redskins' poor performance on Zorn and his assistants, ..."

Textbook CYA. One has only to look at the fruits of the 2008 draft to see what a disaster the guy is.

1. DT. Drafting a WR this high from a conf where passing is an alien invasion?
2. FD. We already had a pretty good TE. In fact, the dude is a PBer.
3. MK. The meds warned Cerrato about the dude's knee.

Meantime, the injury and age termites are having a all-you-can-eat buffet on the OL.

Posted by: FreakyGeeky | November 2, 2009 11:08 AM | Report abuse

This seems like a silly argument to me. Of course the line should protect Jason better; of course, Jason should do a better job of getting rid of the ball. Wouldn't hurt if the receivers got into their patterns more quickly, or the running backs were able to establish more of a threat, or the plays were more ingenious.

The offense is a unit. It performs as a unit, succeeds as a unit, fails as a unit.

Look at Philadelphia yesterday. The league consensus on the Iggles o-line is that it's been a disappointment. Not surprising, given the amount of turnover they had in the off-season. Nonetheless they were able to block well enough to hold off the Giants' rushers, at least long enough for an agile and quick-throwing McNabb to complete short passes to fast receivers underneath the coverage.

And that coverage -- well, it's clear that if the Jints can't get pressure, and a lot of pressure, they're eminently beatable.

When the Jints dropped back and gave McNabb time, he promptly went downfield.

Here's my point: the line didn't hold the NY pass rush for a full 3 seconds, but somehow the QB had enough time to get the ball to the right receiver, who in turn made something of the play.

Maybe nobody played perfect, but the unit played together. And NY was no match for it.

Posted by: Samson151 | November 2, 2009 11:09 AM | Report abuse

look at aaron rodgers and what he's done this year with arguably the worst o-line in the league.... man if we could've moved up one more spot to snag him. things could be a lot diff't around here..

Posted by: mopp04 | November 2, 2009 11:12 AM | Report abuse

Posted by: jimmy_the_crickett | November 2, 2009 11:14 AM | Report abuse

The Washington Reddskins, born the Boston Braves in 1932, passed away in October 2009, following a ten-year long illness inflicted upon it by team owner Daniel M. Snyder and pseudo-general manager Vinny Cerrato. After several false alarms and faint glimmers of playoff hope, the once proud franchise developed a fatal aversion to the end-zone, and succumbed in a slow, painful death. The team leaves behind thousands of disgruntled fans, angry tailgaters, and despondent season ticket holders, as well as tons of unsold merchandise, one puzzled quarterback, and an emasculated head coach.

Posted by: SirAnonymoustheGreat | November 2, 2009 11:15 AM | Report abuse

I was in a good mood intil just now.....I hope these qoutes are old...like from last Monday....They need to stop reading papers and blogs...

Hopefully they get re-energized to make some kind of run.......

(Sorry...Not a quitter like the rest of youse)

Posted by: 4thFloor | November 2, 2009 11:16 AM | Report abuse

how about thomas and kelly catch some f'n balls instead of being interviewed...

Posted by: jimmy_the_crickett | November 2, 2009 11:17 AM | Report abuse

So the reason Kelly and Thomas have been so unproductive is the fault of the offensive line?

Posted by: rob3 | November 2, 2009 11:18 AM | Report abuse

The redskins' FO could a lot from the Vikings.

A couple of years ago, the team was on top with Moss, Culpepper, Cris Carter, and Robert Smith.

Then, they had the 'boating issue' where a number of players where accused of exposing their torpedos during a cruise--and suddenly, the new owner had to pull the team up from a publicity bottom.

A coach was fired.

Brad Childress was hired.

And some crafty purple-loving people drafted a solid offensive line, running back, stellar wide outs, traded for Jared Allen and Steve Hutchinson, and pulled the trigger to get Favre when most folks thought the idea comical.

Now the Purple People Eaters--with so much youth in tow--stand ready to rock the NFC for some time to come.

The skins FO is about to play a Falcons team that, like the Vikes, went through some 'stuff' and came out on top.

There is hope, people: if you're willing to wait and learn.

Posted by: MistaMoe | November 2, 2009 11:19 AM | Report abuse

"Now the Purple People Eaters--with so much youth in tow--stand ready to rock the NFC for some time to come."

With who as their quarterback? 40ish Brett Favor? Unless they can get a QB after Favre bounces, defenses will go back to stacking eight in the box. Peterson will have a rack of yards but no W's to show for it.
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Glad to hear more players griping about the offensive line. Messgae to Vinny: If the golden goose, Clinton Portis, and the golden children, Malcolm Kelly & Devin Thomas are b!tching about the offensive line it's time to take notice and do something about it!!!

Posted by: RedDMV | November 2, 2009 11:19 AM | Report abuse

look at aaron rodgers and what he's done this year with arguably the worst o-line in the league.... man if we could've moved up one more spot to snag him. things could be a lot diff't around here..

Posted by: mopp04

Just leave that sht alone whatever it is you are taking. No one has worst O Line in the NFL than the Skins. Rogers look awful in the first half when they wasn't doing mass protect. It was only when he had time he looked better. People really need to stop with the foolish talk and just come out and say you don't like JC than some of this bs.

Posted by: jm220 | November 2, 2009 11:20 AM | Report abuse

There 4th with his weekly "I'm a real fan..."

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Posted by: RedDMV | November 2, 2009 11:21 AM | Report abuse

Cuz its TheTruth11......

(Always the eternal optimost because after watching 20 years of NFL Football, almost anything is possible with the right mindset)

Posted by: 4thFloor | November 2, 2009 11:24 AM | Report abuse

F this team.

Posted by: Original_etrod | November 2, 2009 11:24 AM | Report abuse

beeps

jm, the Packers can at least throw the ball. Aaron Rodgers has proved to be able to make plays while being flushed from the pocket where if you were to put JC in that same situation he'd just stay in the pocket and take the sack, or sack/fumble.

Washington has also shown some decency in running the ball. Save that one game against the Browns, Ryan Grant hasn't done s*** all season.

Posted by: RedDMV | November 2, 2009 11:26 AM | Report abuse

Here's my point: the line didn't hold the NY pass rush for a full 3 seconds, but somehow the QB had enough time to get the ball to the right receiver, who in turn made something of the play.

Maybe nobody played perfect, but the unit played together. And NY was no match for it.

Posted by: Samson151 | November 2, 2009 11:09 AM |

Hey, on the Jack TD pass the Eagles OL was protecting McN like a Trojan. And I ain't talking USC.

Posted by: FreakyGeeky | November 2, 2009 11:28 AM | Report abuse

Props to you for watching football for 20 years, 4th.

For the record, I've been watching for about 15, but who really gives a damn?

I don't have to taste s*** before I know it's s***. And I know when something is a lost cause.

Life experiences, not football have taught me a thing or two about that.

Posted by: RedDMV | November 2, 2009 11:30 AM | Report abuse

Now that's some damm fine reporting and analysis, J. Reid in your "After the Bye" piece.

The fact that Dan Snyder and Vinny Cerrato are making football decisions for this team is what is wrong with this team.

Big decisions like you said, or even the small ones like drafting and releasing Spencer Havner, former UCLA linebacker. Åll he did this weekend was catch two Red Zone TD passes for another team after the 'skins cut him. (If you're keeping score, that's one more than Devin Thomas has caught in his entire NFL career.) Snyderatto never suspected a position switch as the answer, and that's the point.

It all adds up, Snyderatto: Not knowing the potential of your inexperienced coach, the abilities of your QB, the health of your Oline, who to draft, the maturity effect of the three second rounders, the speed of Archuletta, that Rino can't play tackle,Taylor can't play LDE, the diminished (if they ever existed) skills of Brandon Lloyd, and so on and so on.


Posted by: TheCork | November 2, 2009 11:32 AM | Report abuse

If there was better blocking, would Thomas and Kelly actually run a decent route for once instead of just jogging down the field and cashing a check?

Posted by: hackeynut | November 2, 2009 11:36 AM | Report abuse

beeps

Posted by: BeantownGreg1 | November 2, 2009 11:36 AM | Report abuse

look at aaron rodgers and what he's done this year with arguably the worst o-line in the league.... man if we could've moved up one more spot to snag him. things could be a lot diff't around here..

Posted by: mopp04 | November 2, 2009 11:12 AM | Report abuse

Not even close. Rodgers has a good interior line. He's only getting pressure from the edges so when he actually gets to throw he can step into it. Our interior line is bad. That's why we get so many tipped passes and inaccurate throws with both Collins and Campbell. Our entire line is bad. That's why we also have almost as many sacks as they do. They are also running the ball more effectively than us too so we can't even fall back on that. We truly have one of the worst lines in the league.

Posted by: PAskinsfan17 | November 2, 2009 11:38 AM | Report abuse

Sigh... drafting a QB is just more Snyder-ball. You're buying a lottery ticket and hoping you win big, even though you've bought plenty before and never won.

There is NO quarterback you can draft that can fix this team. Too many problems. You put a rookie in this offense and you'll destroy him before he can develop.

You need to start by rebuilding the offensive line. If you do it right, in about two years you'll be ready for your QB. It isn't sexy and it won't work overnight. You resign yourself to another 2-3 years of the same lousy results.

If we had a real GM, he'd be blunt: we're rebuilding. We don't have a core of young players to build around, so you won't see immediate results like some other teams have. No, this team needs to rebuild the entire offensive line, needs a new QB, a new RB, and probably a couple receivers.

In three years, who on the offense will still be here? Hopefully one or two of the young receivers, but that's not a given. Other than them, Cooley? There's really no one else. So you've got to build an entire offense from scratch -- and you need a new coach and offensive system.

That is NOT the environment you throw a rookie QB into. That's suicide.

Posted by: diesel_skins_ | November 2, 2009 11:40 AM | Report abuse

Campbell has struggled since the Tampa Bay game and looks shell shocked with no confidence in the present but before that dating back to last year the main culprit of the offensive struggles has been the oline. You cannot compare oline of GreenBay to Redskins by just sacks, thats like saying that a defensive team with the most sacks are the best defense. Yes, you factor sacks into the equation but the key to protection is being able to throw in lanes, ability to step up in throw in the pocket consistently. Our offensive line is worst then those mentioned even though they may give up more sacks, trust me...Green Bay and Philly online prove that they can block consistently throughout the majority of the game to give Rodgers and McNabb time to hit the deep ball and intermediate routes, we can't say that about our line. Look at other teams that have solid lines, they block and create space where the qb can see and make more comfortable throws. Campbell has to slide, step up, or rollout consistently and gets hit probably more times then Rodgers and McNabb does. Now it is not all oline, no one can really say they've played well but it starts with the oline on offense and dline on defense. The oline problems has caused a domino effect, hurting all of the players production.

Posted by: mastdark81 | November 2, 2009 11:44 AM | Report abuse

look at aaron rodgers and what he's done this year with arguably the worst o-line in the league.... man if we could've moved up one more spot to snag him. things could be a lot diff't around here..

Posted by: mopp04 | November 2, 2009

Another mumbling fool joins the fray. Dude this was the oldest most infirm line in football. There was not depth. It is now the worst line in football with only 2 guys on it who currently play at an NFL level and that is Dockery and Rabach.
The rest should not even be in the league. Instead of doing the lame brained Snidely thing and moving up to get Rogers maybe we could have had a decent offensive tackle like the Raven's Michael Oher? Its not like their quarterback is having that great a year. The fans are as stupid as the owner, doh, he is very representative of the idiots out there ...

Posted by: periculum | November 2, 2009 11:52 AM | Report abuse

This joker has no right to say anything.
What has he done?
Answer, NOTHING.

Posted by: jmy999 | November 2, 2009 12:06 PM | Report abuse

bleh. whatever

Posted by: BrooklynSkins | November 2, 2009 12:20 PM | Report abuse

4th may not be a quitter, but he is an idiot. Most people around here can flash their "I've been a fan for decades" card. The only problem is it's not impressive.

Posted by: chickencalada | November 2, 2009 12:25 PM | Report abuse

Thomas and Kelly need to focus on doing their jobs successfully, and not on how their teammates are performing. That's a problem with losing teams; everyone starts worrying so much about how the guy next to them is performing, that they neglect to do their own jobs. There have been plenty of times when the protection has been good, but one or both of them have failed to get open, or have dropped the ball when thrown to.

Posted by: rbpalmer | November 2, 2009 1:50 PM | Report abuse

You mean JC can't move around just a little bit in the pocket to create throwing lanes, just like Donovan McNabb and Joe Montana? You mean all "poor" JC can do is to just stand there and expect the receivers to be magically open? Give me a break! 4 years is enough time to see the tendencies of a player...and believes yous and mes, the opposing defenses have already known about JC's tendencies and deficiencies from the first year.

Posted by: JohnWWW | November 2, 2009 3:33 PM | Report abuse

I don't like DT's attitude or MK's, so far (especially DT's). They seem to think they are doing just fine and the rest of the team is the problem. I do, however, like what I have heard out of Fred Davis, and I wish the other two would take a lesson in humility from him.

Posted by: jksesq1 | November 2, 2009 3:38 PM | Report abuse

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