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What Will Lewis Say about Portis?

Longtime NFL assistant Sherman Lewis, who has extensive experience in West Coast offenses, is easing into his new job.

Although the Redskins run Coach Jim Zorn's version of a West Coast attack, the offense includes terminology that is unique to Zorn's scheme. Zorn and Lewis said Lewis would watch a lot of tape this week and observe from the press box Sunday while the Redskins face the Carolina Panthers at Bank of America Stadium.

At some point soon, however, Lewis is expected to make recommendations on how to improve an offense that ranks 27th in the league in scoring with an average of 14 points. Owner Daniel Snyder determined that Zorn, who had never been a coordinator or head coach in the NFL before Snyder gave him both jobs, needs outside help, and as Lewis watches tape, he will develop opinions about Zorn's schemes, Zorn's ability as a play-caller and the team's talent level.

During the offseason, the Redskins determined the offensive line was the team's weakest unit and largely responsible for last season's 2-6 collapse. Then, when the season opened, the running game was considered such a problem that the Redskins made the highly unusual move of carrying four running backs on the opening 53-man roster and added a fifth, speed back Anthony Alridge, when starting right guard Randy Thomas was lost for the season with a triceps injury.

If Lewis provides a player-personnel report to Snyder and Vinny Cerrato, Washington's executive vice president of football operations, what would he say about top back Clinton Portis?

To be sure, Portis has been among the league's most productive players at his high-profile position in seven-plus seasons. He has rushed for 9,483 yards with a 4.5-yard average and 72 touchdowns and is second to none among backs at pass protection.
This season, Portis, 28, has been slowed because of calf and ankle problems. He rushed for a season-high 98 yards against Tampa Bay and has 281 yards and a 3.9-yard average overall.

In August, Barry Svrluga wrote a piece on Portis in which he explained how history indicates the drop-off with running backs comes as the years and carries pile up, and no back who has played in each of the last five seasons has averaged more than Portis's 21 carries a game. In fact, Svrluga wrote, of the 26 players who have rushed for more than the 9,202 career yards Portis had when the season began, only six have had seasons of at least 1,487 yards after their 28th birthdays - Walter Payton, Barry Sanders, O.J. Simpson (twice), Curtis Martin, Jim Brown, and Tiki Barber (who did it four times; before Barber turned 28, he had only 933 carries. Portis, who turned 28 on Sept. 1, had 2,052).

Most of Portis's $7.2 million base salary next season is guaranteed and he is due a $500,000 roster bonus. Even if 2010 is uncapped and the Redskins decided to release him because there would be no cap ramifications, Portis will be owed most of his base pay. Would Snyder, with major holes to fill along the offensive line, use a high draft pick on a back or sign a costly free-agent back if Portis were still on the books, if not the cap?

I'm not saying the Redskins plan to release Portis. In fact, given Portis's close relationship with Snyder, perhaps he will remain on the roster in 2010 regardless of how he performs the remainder of this season.

But the Redskins are not carrying five backs just because they think it's a cool thing to do. They're searching. They're searching for something in their running game that might not be there this season no matter how many backs they have on the team or consider signing.

Lewis will reach his own conclusions about Portis and every other player he evaluates. And then we will see what happens next.

By Jason Reid  |  October 9, 2009; 6:17 AM ET
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Comments

first????

Posted by: cocodc1 | October 9, 2009 6:34 AM | Report abuse

If they fix the OF line they wont need to worry about what RB is back there.. The best RB in the world would look UNSPECTACULAR behind our current OF line.....

Posted by: cocodc1 | October 9, 2009 6:36 AM | Report abuse

Hire Portis as a consultant and trade the next 10 #1 picks for LT.

Posted by: eleysium | October 9, 2009 6:43 AM | Report abuse

From PFT:

Greg Blache backs off from speaking to the media
Posted by Mike Florio on October 8, 2009 5:47 PM ET
In the latest bizarre twist in a series of bizarre twists involving the Washington Redskins, defensive coordinator Greg Blache will no longer be speaking to the media.

Instead, secondary coach Jerry Gray will handle that function.

Coach Jim Zorn was the one explained the situation to the media.

"For Greg, he's really needed a break," Zorn said, per the Washington Times. "From his standpoint, we talked about it and I actually talked to the league about a break for him and they've agreed. I would put it as personal reasons. It is a needed break for him. That's why I've allowed it."

The NFL reportedly has agreed to the move.

So what's really going on here?

Here's our theory/hypothesis/semi-educated guess.

Unless the Redskins beat the Panthers, trounce the Chiefs, and play a respectable game on Monday, October 26 against the Eagles, Jim Zorn gets fired on Tuesday, October 27.

Next, Greg Blache is installed as the interim head coach.

Next, Sherm Lewis takes over the offense.

Promptly upon the conclusion of the season (if not sooner), the process of hiring the permanent head coach commences in earnest, with Blache and/or Lewis being interviewed before Mike Shanahan or Mike Holmgren or anyone else on the short list, in order to ensure full compliance with the Rooney Rule.

Then, Shanahan gets the job. Unless owner Daniel Snyder changes his mind and goes with Holmgren.

Though the notion that Blache won't be talking to the media doesn't completely mesh with the possibility that he'll be the interim head coach, there's a chance that Blache knows what's going on, and that he's not comfortable with the idea of taking questions on the topic and then trying to answer with something other than the truth.

But the official story is legit -- if Blache is backing off from one of his goes-with-the-territory job duties for "personal reasons" -- then he should back off from the rest of his job for "personal reasons" and resign.
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I know folks like Greg will poo-poo this as "typical PFT making stuff up", but would anyone REALLY be surprised if Snyder did this?

Posted by: brownwood26 | October 9, 2009 6:57 AM | Report abuse

Sort of ties right in with this little doozy from Deadspin:

http://deadspin.com/5377099/the-most-hopeless-franchise-in-football--jamboroo-week-5

Posted by: brownwood26 | October 9, 2009 6:58 AM | Report abuse

Lewis will probably say something like:

Dude would be a whole lot more convincing if he actually walked the walk as well as he talked the talk. But the dude has always been a habitual no show for off season conditioning, pre-season practice, exhibition games, mid-week practices and who knows what besides.

Rather, he's typically "sitting over on the sidelines, relaxing." Then he throws teammates under the bus when the timing and execution are off and he can't find the holes.

If he ran even half as well as he yapped, the team would be 4-0 and going strong, rather than 2-2 and fading fast.

His 98 yards against one of the worst run defenses in the league was certainly nothing to crow about -- and his sideline yucking it up during the game was pure theater.

The sooner the team is done playing with this clown, the better.


Posted by: Vic1 | October 9, 2009 7:14 AM | Report abuse

Or perhaps...

At $7+ million per season, the best we can hope for from CP these days is roughly 1,000 yards or less... or roughly $7,000 or more per yard. In essence, the return on investment rate sucks.

However, to his credit, there has never been another Redskin running back who was even half as adept as adept at sharing a jacuzzi with Big Dan.

Posted by: Vic1 | October 9, 2009 7:14 AM | Report abuse

brownwood26, I think all Blache wants at this time is retirement. He retired before but Danny tricked him. he will be out next year. we are in rebuilding process. we will be in this process for some years, may be forever. skins sucks, and will be forever.

Posted by: Skins2 | October 9, 2009 7:33 AM | Report abuse

brownwood26, I think all Blache wants at this time is retirement. He retired before but Danny tricked him. he will be out next year. we are in rebuilding process. we will be in this process for some years, may be forever. skins sucks, and will be forever.

Posted by: Skins2 | October 9, 2009 7:33 AM |

Tricked him whatever, here is a bunch of money to coach Greg, OK Dan when do I start wow what a con job.

Posted by: Flounder21 | October 9, 2009 7:40 AM | Report abuse

Tricked him whatever, here is a bunch of money to coach Greg, OK Dan when do I start wow what a con job.

Posted by: Flounder21 | October 9, 2009 7:40 AM |

that is exactly how he tricked him

Posted by: Skins2 | October 9, 2009 7:44 AM | Report abuse

I don't think Portis is done but let me put an asterisk on that statement: he is going to need to re-dedicate himself to offseason conditioning and practice. Portis, from all outside indications, is lazy. He has gotten along well with being a very gifted athlete, but now that has caught up with him. If he wants to contribute in the future he is going to have to put in the time in the weight room and on the practice field. Still, the team will have to use him wisely. He is no longer much of a threat to turn the corner, but he still can make the cuts and he can lower a shoulder. Think of Portis next year as something like Corey Dillon when he went to New England in his twilight years.

Moving forward, this team needs to start thinking about the future at running back. Going into the next draft, they will already be looking, presumably, for a quarterback and an offensive tackle. I think it might actually be the second day of the draft before they can reach out for a running back. There are bargains to be had there, but I think a smart organization would start doing the auditions this year. First, if Alrdige has gotten playing time by now, he's not going to. Cut him loose. Sign a player or two sitting on other teams' developmental roster. Guys like Cedric Peerman in Cleveland, Kory Sheets in San Francisco, or Ian Johnson in Minnesota all have more going for them than fumble-prone micro machine Anthony Alridge. You might say the team will find nothing in these ranks but let me remind you that starters on some teams today, like Ryan Grant in Green Bay, were actually cut from another team. The point is the Redskins could get lucky.

Posted by: RedSkinHead | October 9, 2009 7:46 AM | Report abuse

Agreed, Skins2 (except the "tricked him" stuff...not sure where you're going with that). I've grown weary of this whole thing, if I wanted to watch soap operas I'd watch General Hospital...not pay for tickets to see a weekly train wreck and another grip of cash to go to the bar to see them on TV (I live out of area).

Posted by: brownwood26 | October 9, 2009 7:49 AM | Report abuse

whateves.

Posted by: DikShuttle | October 9, 2009 7:53 AM | Report abuse

Posted by: brownwood26 | October 9, 2009 7:54 AM | Report abuse

Vic1
It's not Portis, it's not practice, it not off-season workouts. it as cocodc1 puts it:

If they fix the OF line they wont need to worry about what RB is back there.. The best RB in the world would look UNSPECTACULAR behind our current OF line.....

Doc Walker said the other day that when he played for the skins that Riggins and Joe Washington never practiced and no one ever complained, why? The Hogs!! that's why.

Also the so off season workouts OTA's whatever didn't happen back then. So Aldrige, Mason, Betts whomever you want to put back there wouldn't do anything behind this Oline.

Posted by: jcnjcnj | October 9, 2009 8:06 AM | Report abuse

Agreed, Skins2 (except the "tricked him" stuff...not sure where you're going with that). I've grown weary of this whole thing, if I wanted to watch soap operas I'd watch General Hospital...not pay for tickets to see a weekly train wreck and another grip of cash to go to the bar to see them on TV (I live out of area).

Posted by: brownwood26 | October 9, 2009 7:49 AM |

Brown,

GH was my favorite soap at least it had some good violence and some hot chicks.

Posted by: Flounder21 | October 9, 2009 8:07 AM | Report abuse

Say what you want about cp not practicing etc... etc.. etc... But we made it to the playoffs in 05 and 07 basically on his back. And a friend of mind who plays in the nfl told me that word around the league is that Gibbs ran him into the ground. As far as preseason I don't blame him citing his injury that game during the bungals preseason game. Now I hate the fact that he doesn't practice. But AI would say "practice? practice? how the hell can i make chad rhinehart better by practice? not the game practice! Bottom line the oline sucks. Joe montana and barry sanders would look bad behind them.

Posted by: bza48842002 | October 9, 2009 8:08 AM | Report abuse

Tricked him whatever, here is a bunch of money to coach Greg, OK Dan when do I start wow what a con job.

Posted by: Flounder21 | October 9, 2009 7:40 AM |

that is exactly how he tricked him

Posted by: Skins2 | October 9, 2009 7:44 AM |

Dah, which way did he go George which way did he go. George is my friend.

Posted by: Flounder21 | October 9, 2009 8:09 AM | Report abuse

Jason,

Well, Blache is fed up with the DC media - who could blame him?!! How many more coaches and players will you guys alienate? If this were any other business, you would get sued for creating a hostile work environment.

Dan Snyder - Please move this team to a city that will treat them respectively!! Please - I'm so tired of the circus created by the DC media.

Fan in Louisville

Posted by: SkinsFan2111 | October 9, 2009 8:09 AM | Report abuse

The O-Line sucks people are back, we are not even in the bottom 10 of bad o-lines. Portis not practicing does make a huge difference.

Stop going back to what happened with Riggins and the Hogs it was a different NFL back then.

There are plenty of QB's and RB's making plays behind worse O-Lines then ours.

What about the runs where CP had clear openings but tripped over his own feet.

What about the first run of the year where he was in the clear and got run down from behind.

I guess practice and conditioning wouldn't of helped there.

Posted by: Flounder21 | October 9, 2009 8:14 AM | Report abuse

2010 draft

First Round: Russel Okung
Second Round: Evan Royster
the rest: BPA

Posted by: PAskinsfan17 | October 9, 2009 8:16 AM | Report abuse

GH was my favorite soap at least it had some good violence and some hot chicks.

Posted by: Flounder21 | October 9, 2009 8:07 AM


My wife was into it for a while and so I saw a couple episodes, thought it might be cool since they had this mafia dude on there...not at all. A mafia kingpin that NEVER kills anyone is whack and I have no time for it. The chicks ARE hot, but they're all whiney and annoying so it's counterproductive. If I wanna kill a b*tch more than I wanna f*ck her, then it's just not worth it.

I just realized how f-ed up that last statement is...

Posted by: brownwood26 | October 9, 2009 8:17 AM | Report abuse

Hey Brown,

I have a ton of money for you to come work for me doing what you love. When can you start?

Posted by: Flounder21 | October 9, 2009 8:17 AM | Report abuse

Portis should ride the bench until he's "healthy". By healthy I mean not fat and out of shape.

Posted by: PAskinsfan17 | October 9, 2009 8:22 AM | Report abuse

Got to go for a while be back later.

Posted by: Flounder21 | October 9, 2009 8:23 AM | Report abuse

Can I vote for option 2 and 3 of this poll? They aren't mutually exclusive.

Sure CP's best years are behind him, but he's still awesome. Say what you want about his work ethic, he's unquestionably the best RB we've got. He's performing admirably behind our terrible O-line, I think there might only be 3-5 RBs in the entire league that could do better in our system with our crappy o-line. And oh by the way, his excellence at pass protection absolutely cannot be discounted, it is a huge asset. Worst case scenario long term, he becomes a superb third down back.

If it comes to the point where it's obvious our season is bust (by our record), then I think it's good to throw Mason and Aldridge in there a lot, and see what they can do. But we're .500 right now. I know how it looks, trust me. But as long as we have a statistical chance, I say put the ball in our best RB's hands, and that is Portis by a chasm of a margin.

Posted by: REXskins | October 9, 2009 8:27 AM | Report abuse

For those parents with kids who are old enough to be entertained by a movie, I HIGHLY, HIGHLY recommend going to see "Cloudy with a chance of Meatballs"...incredibly funny, and very enjoyable.....

Posted by: BeantownGreg1 | October 9, 2009 8:30 AM | Report abuse

I think we can all agree on that it's not ________'s (fill in the blank) fault.

And the players, coaches and front office will all step up at some point in time and either shrug their shoulders, mumble something incoherent, or nod at someone else.

A noble few may even dive under the bus when things go especially bad -- and then act as martyrs to the cause. (See Greg Blanche)

However, we have yet to see anyone actually step up and say it's their job and responsibility to fix this mess -- and then actually go out and do it.

Posted by: Vic1 | October 9, 2009 8:31 AM | Report abuse

It is time to boycott the games. We all should unite and show our displeasure of management by boycotting.And this is the only way Dan Snyder will be forced to sell.

Posted by: otutmo | October 9, 2009 8:33 AM | Report abuse

I'm on board with the boycott, I will NOT be going to the game this weekend....not next weekend...nor for the remainder of the year. Snyder wont get another PENNY from my pockets....VIVA LA BOYCOTT!!!!!!

Posted by: BeantownGreg1 | October 9, 2009 8:38 AM | Report abuse

The poll should have included and "all of the above" option. He'll be fine when his injuries heal, he would be better behind a better line and his best years are behind him.

Posted by: keino83 | October 9, 2009 8:46 AM | Report abuse

He will say what we already know:
He's over paid, doesn't want to practice at any point of the season but wants everyone to think he's the man, and hasn't been the same since he put that S Curl in his hair this year.

Posted by: hbu_dog | October 9, 2009 8:48 AM | Report abuse

Stop going back to what happened with Riggins and the Hogs it was a different NFL back then.

There are plenty of QB's and RB's making plays behind worse O-Lines then ours.

Flouder:
The NFL today has better athletes overall but blocking and tackling, the basics of football hasn't changed.

What QB's and RB's are you citing here that are making plays without a O-line or one worse than ours?
Profound statements won't get you far without something to back them up.

Posted by: jcnjcnj | October 9, 2009 8:49 AM | Report abuse

We need o-line help. I have no confidence, however, in this front offices ability to identify talent at the guard, tackle or center position. Unless we have a top 5 pick we should just go with best player available and let then overpay for some proven commodity. Not the way it should be done but hey...when life gives you lemons...fml.

Posted by: 3hrswasted | October 9, 2009 8:49 AM | Report abuse

overpay for some proven commodity- meaning FA linemen

Posted by: 3hrswasted | October 9, 2009 8:50 AM | Report abuse

BINGO!

Posted by: baggfull | October 9, 2009 8:53 AM | Report abuse

Owner Daniel Snyder determined that Zorn, who had never been a coordinator or head coach in the NFL before Snyder gave him both jobs, needs outside help,

JReid, you heard this with more of that Dog hearing of yours. Dude you should opening one of the psyic networks. Your could be called Hearing-Aid...Vinny made it clear it was his idea to bring in S. Lewis. He did this becuase he convinced Dan to hire JZ as HC and now must try to correct this mistake to save his JOB.

Posted by: jcnjcnj | October 9, 2009 8:54 AM | Report abuse

Well, you started out with some very good points about the OL being identified as the main source of last year's collapse. But then you wandered off into talk about replacing Portis.

So name one running back that would do better than Portis behind our OL.

The lack of offense this year is clearly the result of the front office not addressing what was identified as the main flaw in the team last year.

Lets see now, our OL is weak so to solve the problem, I will hire a high profile big $$ DEFENSIVE lineman. That should fix it!

If Snyder/Cerrato were doctors and had a patient with failing liver and a stubbed toe, they would replace the toe because they could get one with with some real nice nail polish....What a joke.

Posted by: boomer5 | October 9, 2009 8:59 AM | Report abuse

Owner Daniel Snyder determined that Zorn, who had never been a coordinator or head coach in the NFL before Snyder gave him both jobs, needs outside help,

JReid, you heard this with more of that Dog hearing of yours.

Couldn't agree more. So much speculation in WaPo is passed off as reporting its disgusting. They are more then happy to throw gas, or newpapers, on the fire just to watch it burn.

Posted by: 3hrswasted | October 9, 2009 9:02 AM | Report abuse

The crappy offense blame game:

Front Office:
Drafted a QB that needs a talented supporting cast to be successful then failed to give him that supporting cast.
Failed to get a real NFL caliber Right Tackle. Failed to begin grooming Chris Samuels replacement which would also serve as quality depth at the tackle position. Failed to develop or aquire a legit #1 WR. Masquerading a 5-10 #2 does not count. Failed to develop a #2 WR in time.

Jim Zorn:
Red zone and first down play calling is too predictable. RUN LEFT!! He also fails to adjust his game plan during the game. Zorn also does not realize that being on the 10 yard line is a whole different game plan then being on the 20. At the 10 you have to throw into traffic. You need your tall guys in the game and not on the bench. You only have a small portion of the field. You need to use it all. I actually cheered the false start penalty in the red zone during the Bucs game because I knew it would move us back far enough that we at least had a chance to score a TD. How about that change of pace running back? How about that tall guy that catches everything thrown at him? How about admitting you need help?

Greg Blache:
Not aggressive enough. With 4 out of 5 of our first rounders and a quarter billion dollars in free agency the offense should be getting the ball a lot more and should be getting better field position.

Danny Smith:
Why is Randle El and Rock Cartright still returning kicks? We start every drive at our own 23 yard line.

Clinton Portis:
Out of shape.

Jason Campbell:
Giving up on young receivers and not giving them enough looks. If you're going to throw into double coverage at least put your receiver between the defender and the ball not the other way around.

Malcolm Kelly:
Needs to get off the LOS.

Devin Thomas:
Needs to focus on his route running.

Chad Rinhart/Casey Rabach: Need to get better leverage on defensive linemen and stop getting pushed into the backfield on passing downs.

Derrick Dockery: Stop false starting and learn your blocking assignments.

Stephon Heyer: May lose his job. He's in there for his pass protection skills. If he can't pass protect then there's no reason for him to be there. BMW can at least run block.

Posted by: PAskinsfan17 | October 9, 2009 9:03 AM | Report abuse

Well, you started out with some very good points about the OL being identified as the main source of last year's collapse. But then you wandered off into talk about replacing Portis.

So name one running back that would do better than Portis behind our OL.

The lack of offense this year is clearly the result of the front office not addressing what was identified as the main flaw in the team last year.

Lets see now, our OL is weak so to solve the problem, I will hire a high profile big $$ DEFENSIVE lineman. That should fix it!

If Snyder/Cerrato were doctors and had a patient with failing liver and a stubbed toe, they would replace the toe because they could get one with with some real nice nail polish....What a joke.


Hmmm...being that the only real treatment for liver failure is a transplant...could it be that this FO is actually on the transplant list (FA, draft) and mean while trying to placate the patient (fans) with a little toenail polish (fat albert). I know, I know don't wake me i'm dreaming.

Posted by: 3hrswasted | October 9, 2009 9:09 AM | Report abuse

I don't think they conned Blanche. But I'm sure they promised not to meddle with his defense and to consult him about player acquisitions. Clearly this hasn't happened. Their biggest off season move, AH, doesn't even play the gap discipline type of defense Blanch coaches. But they signed him anyway. (Remember, The Danny doesn't like vanilla.)

Brownwood's theory about the Lewis does not seem far-fetched. But even if that isn't the case, and they they're really only looking for a little help, how many other NFL teams lack the football IQ to evaluate their own team? Pathetic.

Posted by: mack1 | October 9, 2009 9:11 AM | Report abuse

Hollis Thomas, released by the winless Rams last week, is expected to become the latest to start in injured tackle Maake Kemoeatu's spot on Carolina's defensive line.
==========

Can any astute viewer tell me how we did against Hollis in week 2?

Posted by: REXskins | October 9, 2009 9:19 AM | Report abuse

Does it matter what Lewis says about Portis?

What matters is what Portis's bunk-mate Danny snyder thinks about Portis.

Next up: After introducing himself to the media, Lewis Sherman will not address the media anymore due to "personal reasons".

MAKE IT STOP!

FOR THE LOVE OF ALL THAT IS GOOD IN THIS WORLD, MAKE IT STOP!

Posted by: p1funk | October 9, 2009 9:20 AM | Report abuse

Fred Taylor might be out for the year with what is being called 'severe' ligament damage in his foot, went under the knife yesterday. Time for the front office to strike while the iron is hot, send them betts for whatever they'll give up for him, draft pick, or player.

Championship

Posted by: BeantownGreg1 | October 9, 2009 9:23 AM | Report abuse

So do I pick up Sammy Morris or Maroney?

Posted by: REXskins | October 9, 2009 9:32 AM | Report abuse

Did anyone hear about the fight between CP and Sellers?

Posted by: 4thFloor | October 9, 2009 9:34 AM | Report abuse

Did anyone hear about the fight between CP and Sellers?

Posted by: 4thFloor

no - do tell.

Posted by: REXskins | October 9, 2009 9:36 AM | Report abuse

4th, if this is your attempt at getting back at me for the 'fake' PFT reports, that makes you just look more bamafied than previously thought....where is this being reported??

Posted by: BeantownGreg1 | October 9, 2009 9:36 AM | Report abuse

Why carry five RB's if you don'plan to use any of them, this coach wants to pass the ball but with the talent he has at WR it's immpossible... but he just keeps trying. If these five guys are good enough, then I say shuttle them... wear down the defense pull eight, nine men up and then pass the ball

Posted by: oda155 | October 9, 2009 9:38 AM | Report abuse

PAskinsfan17 - Well said.
It all starts with the FO and cascades down. Until Snyder changes his fundamental belief that big names are the answer, the story will remain the same.

Posted by: NYSkinsFan1 | October 9, 2009 9:40 AM | Report abuse

Did not hear about the fight w/Sellers.

I agree with the thought that CP should be riding bench till he is healthy. Also it would give a chance to Betts, Mason and doubleA to get in a hand full of reps, and show us if its the line or Portis.

Posted by: alex35332 | October 9, 2009 9:41 AM | Report abuse

It was on a 980 sportsbreak

They said CSN and Hellie are reporting it. O didn't check either site.

Portis is mad at Sellers for missing his blocking assignments. If I was Portis, I would be too.

Posted by: 4thFloor | October 9, 2009 9:43 AM | Report abuse

Did anyone hear about the fight between CP and Sellers?
Posted by: 4thFloor

980 is reporting that CP is upset with Sellers blocking (or lack thereof)and that they had a heated conversation this week.

Does anyone know who is calling our game on Sunday?

Posted by: Lisa_R | October 9, 2009 9:44 AM | Report abuse

Time for the front office to strike while the iron is hot, send them betts for whatever they'll give up for him, draft pick, or player.

this would mean that they would actually have to be intelligent football minds. What will happen is that they trade betts and a draft pick for a retired Teddy Bruschi and then tell us he is going to be another set of eyes

Posted by: connskins | October 9, 2009 9:44 AM | Report abuse

"A mafia kingpin that NEVER kills anyone is whack and I have no time for it."

Truer words, brown, truer words...

Posted by: JohnDinHouston | October 9, 2009 9:45 AM | Report abuse

Does anyone know who is calling our game on Sunday?


Posted by: Lisa_R | October 9, 2009 9:44 AM |

Billick and his partner

Posted by: Flounder21 | October 9, 2009 9:47 AM | Report abuse

so what it a physical confrontation, or just merely harsh words??

Posted by: BeantownGreg1 | October 9, 2009 9:48 AM | Report abuse

Whose calling our game Sunday? If they can get away with it, probably Joe Garagiola and Al diRigotis

Posted by: JohnDinHouston | October 9, 2009 9:48 AM | Report abuse

Billick and his partner

Posted by: Flounder
I did not know they were out.

Posted by: alex35332 | October 9, 2009 9:49 AM | Report abuse

so what it a physical confrontation, or just merely harsh words??

Posted by: BeantownGreg1 | October 9, 2009 9:48 AM |

I'm thinking harsh words otherwise Portis would be out for this week.

Sellers would beat Portis like a little b_tch.

Posted by: Flounder21 | October 9, 2009 9:49 AM | Report abuse

I could see Portis becoming a decent back ala Ernest Byner. But until the rest of team stops sucking, defenses will be geared to stop him and only him.

Posted by: peterandmeredith | October 9, 2009 9:50 AM | Report abuse

flound, thanks..hey take the kids to see the movie Cloudy, its pretty funny...

Posted by: BeantownGreg1 | October 9, 2009 9:51 AM | Report abuse

flound, thanks..hey take the kids to see the movie Cloudy, its pretty funny...

Posted by: BeantownGreg1 | October 9, 2009 9:51 AM |

My Wife took them, I heard is was good.

Posted by: Flounder21 | October 9, 2009 9:52 AM | Report abuse

I could see a Sellers Portis fight ending only one way, in a image identical to the iconic comic cover where batman gets his spine broken by Bane.

Best-crippling-ever!

Posted by: alex35332 | October 9, 2009 9:53 AM | Report abuse

pretty funny, yeah.....

so CP versus big mike....hopefully everyone goes into this game with a little chip on their shoulder.....one of these games that has to happen right....

Posted by: BeantownGreg1 | October 9, 2009 9:54 AM | Report abuse

And leave it to Scampbell1975 to cry about my crying about the crying...

Pot calling the kettle the pot, back to the kettle, which is just the same old pot, anyway.

Like I said, "Crybabies."

Posted by: Thinker_ | October 9, 2009 1:41 AM |

This had to be my favorite post of last night. Imagine the endless possibilities...

Posted by: scampbell1975 | October 9, 2009 9:55 AM | Report abuse

To me, it sounded more physical than heated words. Fight maybe was too harsh.. But you never get the full story anyway. I'm sure heated words happen alot. It's a football team and that wouldn't be worth reporting...

Posted by: 4thFloor | October 9, 2009 9:59 AM | Report abuse

Who knows what's going on with the Lewis appointment? Certainly not me. But, I imagine, neither does anyone else here.

The hysteria builds in the blogosphere. Everybody interprets the move as support for his position on the team.

Why don't we wait and see what happens against Carolina? A troubled team like ours.

Posted by: Samson151 | October 9, 2009 9:59 AM | Report abuse

Washington will NEVER use its top draft choices on the O-line as long as Snyder and Cerrato are calling the shots. O-lines are simply not glamorous enough for those two. Besides, when you TRADE for linemen or pick them up through free agency and they bust, then it is the players and/or the coaches fault. However, if you DRAFT linemen high and they bust, then it is the fault of the front office and scouting and then the weight falls on Vinny and Danny.

Posted by: tapscott_k | October 9, 2009 10:02 AM | Report abuse

I know folks like Greg will poo-poo this as "typical PFT making stuff up", but would anyone REALLY be surprised if Snyder did this?

Posted by: brownwood26 | October 9, 2009 6:57 AM

Zorn's not going anywhere until after the season.

Book it.

Posted by: 4thFloor | October 9, 2009 10:04 AM | Report abuse

The CP/Sellers altercation stems from rumors that CP complained to Sherm Smith about Seller's lacking of blocking in the Tampa game. Sellers caught wind of it and then there was a verbal argument during a players meeting later on.

Posted by: pgugino | October 9, 2009 10:04 AM | Report abuse

So, Portis tells Sellers he's not blocking for him. Sellers probably told Portis he was going to knock his block off if he didn't shut his pie hole. Portis probably told him he was going to tell "Dad" Snyder if Sellers even thought about it. Argument over. Meanwhile, Sherman Lewis is on the sideline yelling, "B-17, B-17... I think we have a winner", Zorn is in his office busily updating his resume, and blache is up in Snyder's office smoking cigars and drink 30 year old port with the big Kahuna.

Posted by: RedSkinHead | October 9, 2009 10:05 AM | Report abuse

And PFT's real pieces are just as bad as Bean's fabricated ones. The proof is in their most recent theory on Blache's recent silence.

Posted by: pgugino | October 9, 2009 10:06 AM | Report abuse

Zorn's not going anywhere until after the season.

Book it.

Posted by: 4thFloor | October 9, 2009 10:04 AM


Should I book it the same way the Skins would beat the Lions or the way Nick Saban wasn't gonna be the Alabama coach?

Posted by: brownwood26 | October 9, 2009 10:07 AM | Report abuse

"It is what it is. We are who we thought we were."

4th, you mean they are 16-0

man if the media just backed off this team could really fly......

Posted by: chrislarry | October 9, 2009 9:26 AM

If I don't root for them to lose, how can they be less than 16-0? The losses come as they come. I'm not in the business and not making money here......

Posted by: 4thFloor | October 9, 2009 10:08 AM | Report abuse

Portis vs. Sellers?

As if any more evidence was needed for proof of how much of a joke and punch line this team has become.

You know, if you have religion and you start to lose faith, you go and see a preacher or whatever.

Who the hell do you talk to when you start to lose faith in your football team?

I'm almost about done with the Washington Redskins. Every week it's just one embarrassing episode after another.

I think PDX summed it up quite properly: "Sometimes I hate loving this team."

Posted by: RedDMV | October 9, 2009 10:10 AM | Report abuse

4TH, if PFT isn't reporting this yet, then I'll take care of that.....

Posted by: BeantownGreg1 | October 9, 2009 10:10 AM | Report abuse

Blanch's silence means nothing to me, except that he will retire end of the season.

Posted by: alex35332 | October 9, 2009 10:10 AM | Report abuse

4th, take your book and shove it up your bama azz!

Book THAT!

Posted by: RedDMV | October 9, 2009 10:12 AM | Report abuse

thats gonna hurt....

Posted by: BeantownGreg1 | October 9, 2009 10:14 AM | Report abuse

Daniel Snyder should cut a deal so that all Redskins games are broadcast on tape delay on Comedy Central...

Posted by: mattylight | October 9, 2009 10:15 AM | Report abuse

Over at ESPN.com, everyone except Ditka picked Carolina.

Posted by: MrRedskin21 | October 9, 2009 10:17 AM | Report abuse

As if they're going to miss Greg Blache and his soft-cushion-we'll-let-'em-get-yards-but-call-the-philosophy-"Bend-but-don't-break" azz.

If he decides to retire: GOOD BYE!

Anyway Snyder can coax him in to retirement?

Oh, wait...

*sigh*

Posted by: RedDMV | October 9, 2009 10:17 AM | Report abuse

Daniel Snyder should cut a deal so that all Redskins games are broadcast on tape delay on Comedy Central...

Posted by: mattylight | October 9, 2009 10:15 AM | Report abuse

We could get rid of that lawsuit by changing the name to the LOLskins.

Posted by: PAskinsfan17 | October 9, 2009 10:18 AM | Report abuse

I kind of wish that the media would black out skins coverage to get to snyder.

Imagine if Comcast NBC and all the networks agreed to stop covering the team till snyder sells it.

Posted by: alex35332 | October 9, 2009 10:22 AM | Report abuse

4TH, if PFT isn't reporting this yet, then I'll take care of that.....

Posted by: BeantownGreg1 | October 9, 2009 10:10 AM | Report abuse
We'd appreciate that, BTGreg. You're the best writer PFT has!

Posted by: frediefritz | October 9, 2009 10:23 AM | Report abuse

Sherm Lewis will say Portis is not even in the top 10 of problems for the offense.

Posted by: PortisPocketsStr8 | October 9, 2009 10:23 AM | Report abuse

Daniel Snyder should cut a deal so that all Redskins games are broadcast on tape delay on Comedy Central...

Posted by: mattylight | October 9, 2009 10:15 AM | Report abuse

We could get rid of that lawsuit by changing the name to the LOLskins.

Posted by: PAskinsfan17 | October 9, 2009 10:18 AM | Report abuse

I like it...the pregame show can would be hosted by former Redskin greats like Arch Deluxe, Heath Shuler, and LaVar...

Arrington can kill time by going on incoherent rants about the team, and Gus Frerotte can entertain the crowd by running head first into a wall...then after the game they'll have the postgame "lowlights" wrap-up show sponsored by Pepto-Bismol...

Posted by: mattylight | October 9, 2009 10:24 AM | Report abuse

Lewis: well the problem is coaching and talent. Let's start with Zorn and CP.

Snyder: I hired Zorn and I like him. He's got potential. And I have CP on speed dial and he's my best friend.

Lewis: Okay, the QB then. The problem with Campbell is---

Snyder: I agree. Let's lose him. He's no good here.

Lewis: The problem is he has no protection. When was the last time you upgraded the o line?

Snyder: Hello? We got Dockery in the offseason. And Heyer is better now too, right?

Lewis: These guys need help. They're old, abused, and getting worse every season.

Snyder: I think that's harsh, but I do agree they need help, which is why I'm drafting a WR in the first round.

-- -- -- -- -- --

The sad part is this sounds like it would be a great premise for a comedy skit if it weren't so close to the truth.

I have to say that my hatred for this organization now exceeds my fondness for this team. As a fan you have to care at some point about the integrity of the franchise as well as the team itself. When everything you see on the field is the product of one idiot's fantasity football mentality, it's pretty difficult to invest yourself in that team.

Posted by: pgugino | October 9, 2009 10:24 AM | Report abuse

Doea anyone have Dan_S. email add.

Posted by: scampbell1975 | October 9, 2009 10:27 AM | Report abuse

The Thinking Man's Question:

"Would Snyder...use a high draft pick on a back... if Portis were still on the books, if not the cap?"

This suggests that Mr. Portis has been a sal cap casuality.

It suggests that someone cold-blooded talent person understands that subtraction can be addition, and has decided the team needs to move in another direction.

Finally, it means someone has said to the powers that be, "How can we justify keeping Portis when the evidence shows we haven't won with him?"

"So you let him go."

"And move on."

"No matters how much it costs."

Posted by: MistaMoe | October 9, 2009 10:32 AM | Report abuse

Can someone tell me how a guy who is out of the league for 4 years is going to help?

If the trend continues, he might be our next coach.

schotty - out of coaching before hired.
spurrier - college coach no real nfl experience.
gibbs - out of coaching before hired.
zorn - no nfl head coach experience.
sherman lewis or someone else who has been out of coaching for a long time.

And we wonder were the problem lies.

Posted by: Redskins001 | October 9, 2009 10:33 AM | Report abuse

"PFT has learned of a locker-room dust-up, that occurred between starting running back, Clinton Portis, and starting fullback Mike Sellers of the Washington Redskins. The reported fight was as a result of Portis questioning the blocking, or lack-thereof that Sellers has been doing lately. Upon hearing the news Sellers confronted Portis, and the two were seen throwing punches shortly thereafter, and had to be broken up by a number of teammates. Redskins Coach Jim Zorn was so incensed by the fight, that he immediately suspended both players for the game against Carolina on Sunday. As usual with the Redskins, stay tuned"..

Crap, this means no portis or sellers...Peppers is gonna have a field day.....

Posted by: BeantownGreg1 | October 9, 2009 10:35 AM | Report abuse

Again BTG, you're lack of extraneous paragraph breaks and 1 line paragraphs belays the fakeness of your posts.

Posted by: scampbell1975 | October 9, 2009 10:37 AM | Report abuse

Well you can tell it’s Friday up here; seems like everyone’s in a good mood this morning. Nice to see, rather than the other general tone of the past 12 days. I hope to see Sellars come out po’ed on Sunday. Would be nice. Let’s hope our D gets geeked up to stop the panthers running game. Their one-two punch is pretty scary. Hope blache blitzes a lot, pressure on Delhomme = good things for the d.

Posted by: dlhaze1 | October 9, 2009 10:38 AM | Report abuse

Can someone tell me how a guy who is out of the league for 4 years is going to help?

Posted by: Redskins001 | October 9, 2009 10:33 AM

It's all about concepts in the WCO, and experience in using those concepts in that system to defeat defenses. Granted, there might be some defenses in vogue now, and Lewis will need to catch up to them.

Posted by: TWISI | October 9, 2009 10:40 AM | Report abuse

You guys kill me on these threads.

Let me make sure that I'm understanding this correctly...1) You have an owner willing to spend whatever to make the team win ball games. 2) You have an owner who can sell ice to eskimos, and even got the legendary Joe Gibbs out of retirement so well, that Gibbs had to relequish his interest in the Atlanta Falcons. 3) You had a rookie coach go 8-8 in his very first year. At any other place, he would have been considered special. So now he's 10-10 in his first games, and there are calls for his firing? 4) You have newspapers here that continue to say that the Redskins keep paying high money for free agents every year? What team doesn't go after free agents every year, and secondly, when was the last time since Haynesworth did the Redskins fire up Redskins One on the FA recruitment trail? Honestly?! 5) You have a team that is 2-2 while only averaging 13 or 14 pts per game. And they have time to make that better as there are still 12 whole games left.

Will you people please learn to be a little more patient? Gibbs, Marty S, all went 8-8 in their first year. Let's let this thing ride out.

Posted by: Tymmel44 | October 9, 2009 9:31 AM | Report abuse

Great, great post. Good to see there are other people around here that feel as I do.

Posted by: Barno1 | October 9, 2009 10:41 AM | Report abuse

Redskins Coach Jim Zorn was so incensed by the fight, that he immediately suspended both players for the game against Carolina on Sunday. As usual with the Redskins, stay tuned"..
Crap, this means no portis or sellers...Peppers is gonna have a field day.....
Posted by: BeantownGreg1 | October 9, 2009 10:35 AM

I didn’t hear about the suspension…..I heard Dan S came into the locker room and “glared” at them until they hugged it out like bros…..

Posted by: dlhaze1 | October 9, 2009 10:42 AM | Report abuse

Posted by: alex35332 | October 9, 2009 10:44 AM | Report abuse

I'm thinking for Carolina we do this:

LDE-Phillip Daniels
LDT-Cornelius Griffen
RDT-Montgomery/Golston
RDE-Reynaldo Wynn

They run up the middle and to the right a lot. We need our best run stoppers for this game. Big Al can sit until third and long. Play Doughty down in the box. Double Smith with Carlos in man and Landry over the top. Make Delhomme and Mushin Muhammed beat us.

Can Wynn play RDE? Do we have a better run stopper than Carter at RDE?

Posted by: PAskinsfan17 | October 9, 2009 10:47 AM | Report abuse

mattylight, that's cold to reference "former Redskin greats like Arch Deluxe, Heath Shuler, and LaVar..."

LeVar doesn't belong with the other 2, he actually made 3 Pro-Bowls during his 6 seasons here. His career was short, but he brought it.

Posted by: Alan4 | October 9, 2009 10:47 AM | Report abuse

The losses come as they come. I'm not in the business and not making money here......

Posted by: 4thFloor | October 9, 2009 10:08 AM

You're definitely not making money in the cL pick'em league if you keep taking the Skins to cover...

Posted by: 4-12 | October 9, 2009 10:50 AM | Report abuse

Yea! Campbell will get benched or knocked out of the game this week. Carolina is struggling and they will not remember the unspoken rule of sack Campbell but don't hurt him. I can see JPeppers beating Samuels on a speed rush and putting his helmet under Campbell's chin. In comes Collins and all of a sudden the Offense looks professional, receivers are open all over the place, the run games is hard to handle and the B&G are on their way!

Posted by: SkinzNWiz | October 9, 2009 10:51 AM | Report abuse

pa, monty can't play because of a bum knee...but keeping your best, and possibly the best DL in the NFL on the bench until third and long, against a strong running team?? really?? I mean, is that what you meant to write..

Posted by: BeantownGreg1 | October 9, 2009 10:52 AM | Report abuse

Yea! Campbell will get benched or knocked out of the game this week. Carolina is struggling and they will not remember the unspoken rule of sack Campbell but don't hurt him. I can see JPeppers beating Samuels on a speed rush and putting his helmet under Campbell's chin. In comes Collins and all of a sudden the Offense looks professional, receivers are open all over the place, the run games is hard to handle and the B&G are on their way!

Posted by: SkinzNWiz | October 9, 2009 10:51 AM

Ahh, the ever persistant fantasy of the backup QB as savior....shine on, brother!

Posted by: Alan4 | October 9, 2009 10:55 AM | Report abuse

I do find it strange that some people are calling for the heads of management AND coaching to roll. If you want to blame management for poor team building (and I do), then does it really make sense to bash coaching for going 10-10? I mean if the mgt fails so bad at addressing our team's needs (and they do), shouldn't we be happy if a brand new HC with too much on his plate is able to go .500 in his first 20 games?

I'm wary of some of the plays he's called, but give the guy a break. Consider what he's been given to work with, then consider what he's made out of it. I still think he deserves more time. And if he can end this season .500 again, with our terrible o-line, mediocre qb, aging RB, and green WRs... then that says to me - he could do a lot better with better team building.

I don't think a coaching change is going to change crap into gold.

Posted by: REXskins | October 9, 2009 10:55 AM | Report abuse

PAskinsfan17 Monty is injured w/ a knee problem. Monty feels he's two weeks away from playing, but there was some talk last week of the skins considering IR for him if things don't improve soon.

Posted by: TWISI | October 9, 2009 10:57 AM | Report abuse

pa, monty can't play because of a bum knee...but keeping your best, and possibly the best DL in the NFL on the bench until third and long, against a strong running team?? really?? I mean, is that what you meant to write..


Posted by: BeantownGreg1 | October 9, 2009 10:52 AM | Report abuse

Did you watch the Lions game? Haynesworth doesn't man his gap well. He goes after the QB every play. This may work for some teams but the Panthers are one of the best at running through the tackles. If I knew Haynesworth was going to be patient and watch his gap then yes I'd play him as much as possible but I just don't see it happening. He'll make a break for the QB and Williams will fly right by him.

Posted by: PAskinsfan17 | October 9, 2009 10:59 AM | Report abuse

yeah, I'm going with play your best defensive player....crazy, I know...

Posted by: BeantownGreg1 | October 9, 2009 11:01 AM | Report abuse

You know, Metro has been in a lot of hot water lately.

Maybe they sued Snyder for letting one of his coaches "throw himself under the bus." Good heavens, there are already enough people accidentally thrown under the bus in downtown DC, or people "voluntarily" placing themselves in front of trains -- Metro doesn't need a person with national media access talking about "going under the bus."

This is half tongue-in-cheek, but when you consider that the thugs in Sean Taylor death still haven't been put on trial, makes you wonder how effective Snyder's legal team is -- sounds like it's the team with all the shutdown corners.

Posted by: Xlnt | October 9, 2009 11:01 AM | Report abuse

Ahh, the ever persistant fantasy of the backup QB as savior....shine on, brother!

Posted by: Alan4 | October 9, 2009 10:55 AM | Report abuse

Back up QB in the NFL is the ultimate win-win.

You still get paid well.
Team will only go to you if starter is hurt or playing terrible.
If you step in and play well for 4 games you will be a hero to some(Todd Collins).
If you play badly, what's the difference? It's the reason you were a backup in the 1st place.

Posted by: PortisPocketsStr8 | October 9, 2009 11:02 AM | Report abuse

I despite cults and that includes the Thetans, This is a poorly sourced and serious accusation you make chia.

I suggest you get some facts, or back off.

"said to be dedicated" and "people at the scene" Quotes like that are not journalism, dude.

Posted by: TheCork | October 9, 2009 2:15 AM


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Funny one. Cork.

I am not a journalist. I have no investigative resources at my disposal.

You telling me to "back off" is amusing, and no, I won't, but thanks for the stern warning.

Having said that, if I were a journalist I would relish the opportunity to throw the covers back to reveal the inner workings of the Washington Redskins front office.

Secrecy be damned.

Posted by: Chia_Pet | October 9, 2009 11:02 AM | Report abuse

You're definitely not making money in the cL pick'em league if you keep taking the Skins to cover...

Posted by: 4-12 | October 9, 2009 10:50 AM

I got out of that business after the Detriot loss. Like cL says, it's a marathon, not a sprint.

Posted by: 4thFloor | October 9, 2009 11:08 AM | Report abuse

In a surprise announcement this morning, the NFL declared the Washington Redskins winners of Super Bowl XLIV. Analysts believe the award was given based on potential promised during the off-season run-up to the 2009 season.

Posted by: Xlnt | October 9, 2009 11:14 AM | Report abuse

Weekend Sports Viewing Guide

Slim Pickings this weekend.

But, here goes:


Pats v. Broncos

Niners v. Falcons

Colts v. Titans

Bengals v. Ravens

then, there's:

UF v. LSU

Sawx v. Angels

Yanks v. Twins

Cards v. Dodgers

(preseason?: Caps, Wizards, Celtics, Lakers, Pens, blah, blah, blah...--it ain't ready yet, so why hype it?)

Best Bet:

Niners v. Falcons--two young teams on the make. One with D the other with O.

Titans v. Colts: watching Manning work is a thing of beauty.

Ever the optimist, we see the mighty redskins winning 21-14 in a brutal slugfest against the panthas.

Posted by: MistaMoe | October 9, 2009 11:15 AM | Report abuse

I agree with the patience theme. They need to give zorn a real chance, without messing with him. There have been many good coaches who everyone wanted fired in their first few seasons. Look at Tom Coughlin, they wanted him gone and they said he lost his players. Look at him now because of patience. We need a coach that is allowed to make mistakes and have some real influence on the team without big brother staring over his shoulders. I say keep Zorn at least another year and let Jerry Gray take over the defense next year. Maybe let Zorn bring in someone to help with the offense if needed, but it has to be his choice. 2 seasons is not enough to tell anything.

Posted by: Redskins001 | October 9, 2009 11:17 AM | Report abuse

moe, lackey looked good last night, Beckett needs to bring it tonight...

Posted by: BeantownGreg1 | October 9, 2009 11:17 AM | Report abuse

Contrary to what 4th believes, Greg Blache did NOT stop talking to the media because his health was being adversely affected by the pressers.

Please!

Prior to his "decision" to relinquish his media obligations, a couple of days after the loss to the Lions, Blache gave an unusually contrite, politically correct statement, taking accountability for the D's poor performance.

Any observer of human behavior could discern that Blache was being reigned in, and he has now been muzzled all together.

Incompetent, corrupt regimes rely on secrecy and spin control to get their business done.

Posted by: Chia_Pet | October 9, 2009 11:19 AM | Report abuse

yeah, I'm going with play your best defensive player....crazy, I know...

Posted by: BeantownGreg1 | October 9, 2009 11:01 AM | Report abuse

Yeah, Haynesworth is so dominant that we're 22nd in rush defense after playing the 3 worst teams in the league. Let's just keep doing what we're doing. He's not a good run stopper.

Posted by: PAskinsfan17 | October 9, 2009 11:20 AM | Report abuse

Ever the optimist, we see the mighty redskins winning 21-14 in a brutal slugfest against the panthas.

Posted by: MistaMoe | October 9, 2009 11:15 AM |

I gotta say I think that's waaaay too many points. I go with 10-7. Peppers is gonna abuse Samuels and our D is gonna stuff their run game. Steve Smith burns D. Hall and Landry whiffs on the tackle for Carolina's 1 score. Cooley beats Carolina on quick passes up the middle for our 1 TD and to set up a field goal. 10-7...

Posted by: scampbell1975 | October 9, 2009 11:20 AM | Report abuse

In a surprise announcement this morning, the NFL declared the Washington Redskins winners of Super Bowl XLIV. Analysts believe the award was given based on potential promised during the off-season run-up to the 2009 season.

Posted by: Xlnt | October 9, 2009 11:14 AM | Report abuse

Okay we can all stop posting for the day we have a winner!

Posted by: alex35332 | October 9, 2009 11:22 AM | Report abuse

Welcome to the Thetan Opera.

Posted by: Chia_Pet | October 9, 2009 11:22 AM | Report abuse

Sellers/Portis fight: good, Sellers hasn't been very good, and Portis needs an a**kicking.

I hope Snyder understands that if he cans the coach, he better can half of these deadbeat players.

We'll see.

Posted by: shaunsherman12 | October 9, 2009 11:23 AM | Report abuse

if they're freaking searching maybe giving a banged up old guy 25 carries is the best plan?!?!?!!!

Posted by: zjfr2 | October 9, 2009 11:23 AM | Report abuse

Welcome to the Thetan Opera.

Posted by: Chia_Pet | October 9, 2009 11:22 AM |

All right, I've gotta admit my ignorance. I didn't know what a Thetan was so I looked it up. What a crock of sh!t. Those scientololoons have lost their phuking minds.

Posted by: scampbell1975 | October 9, 2009 11:25 AM | Report abuse

In a surprise announcement this morning, the NFL declared the Washington Redskins winners of Super Bowl XLIV. Analysts believe the award was given based on potential promised during the off-season run-up to the 2009 season.

Posted by: Xlnt | October 9, 2009 11:14 AM | Report abuse

Okay we can all stop posting for the day we have a winner!

Posted by: alex35332

Is it for humor or cornballness?

Posted by: RedDMV | October 9, 2009 11:26 AM | Report abuse

Those scientololoons have lost their phuking minds.

Posted by: scampbell1975 | October 9, 2009 11:25 AM

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Dan Snyder.

Posted by: Chia_Pet | October 9, 2009 11:27 AM | Report abuse

pa, yup, they're 22nd in the league against the run, and its all on Haynesworth...its all his fault...he should be beating the 2 guys blocking him, and make a play. Meanhwhile everyone else gets a 1 on 1, and can't get off the blocks....

Posted by: BeantownGreg1 | October 9, 2009 11:27 AM | Report abuse

if they're freaking searching maybe giving a banged up old guy 25 carries is the best plan?!?!?!!!

Posted by: zjfr2 | October 9, 2009 11:23 AM | Report abuse

Did they consider running left?

Posted by: PAskinsfan17 | October 9, 2009 11:27 AM | Report abuse

The answer to the poll should be #2 and #3. Trying to pin the running game problems on the RB is silly without addressing the O-line. Who cares whether they bring in Alridge or look at the kid from Tennessee, without improvement upfront they’re just chasing their tails.

Posted by: skinswest | October 9, 2009 11:28 AM | Report abuse

beep beep

Posted by: Original_etrod | October 9, 2009 11:31 AM | Report abuse

Its for topical humor.

Posted by: alex35332 | October 9, 2009 11:31 AM | Report abuse

beantown

"...lackey looked good last night, Beckett needs to bring it tonight..."


1st: that game should've been on much earlier for the East coast viewes.

2nd: the Angels got an emotional deal going behind the death of that young pitcher Adenhart--that's a tough thing to overcome.

3rd: I think the Sawx will be much better next season if they slurp up Hideki Matsui after the Yanks don't re-sign him--'cuz they won't.

Good luck with Beckett.

Posted by: MistaMoe | October 9, 2009 11:34 AM | Report abuse

The running backs should have a big day against Carolina. Carolina is weak up the middle since their big defensive tackle got hurt in the preseason. They've been giving up a lot of yards to runs up the middle so tell Portis, Betts and Mason to bring their lunch pails with them on Sunday. I personally would like to see Mason get a few more carries. Of course, with a strong running attack comes the opportunity of play action and the team should try to burn them deep with a few. Since Carolina has had two weeks to study for this game, now would be a good time to throw a few more wrinkles in on offense. Try Mason and Portis in the backfield at the same time, for starters. Heck, try Mason, Portis and Sellers in the backfield at the same time, since Carolina cannot stop the run.

On defense, I think it's eight guys in the box to stuff the run. Carolina running backs are fast so wouldn't be a bad idea to defend with speed. This might mean a long day for Horton and Doughty in the Cobra package. Of course, with the corners locked in man, they will need to play smart and not gamble too much. D. Hall, this means you. I don't think Carolina can beat the Redskins with the pass, so stuffing the run is very important.

On special teams, I wish this could be the week that ARE is relieved of his punt returning duties. I want DT back there with an occasional dose of Moss thrown in. If the Redskins have to go with the new punter, then I recommend sometime in the game going with a fake punt using the direct snap to the upback (put Orakpo in there and this could be a work of art). On kickoff returns I would like to see Cartwright field the ball and then throw a backwards pass to Devin Thomas across the field (instead of Betts) and watch him burn it.

Oh, and at the end of the game, when the Redskins are bathing in the warm light of a victory, I want them all to dump gatorade on Blache. That should create more intrigue.

Posted by: RedSkinHead | October 9, 2009 11:35 AM | Report abuse

The answer to the poll should be #2 and #3. Trying to pin the running game problems on the RB is silly without addressing the O-line. Who cares whether they bring in Alridge or look at the kid from Tennessee, without improvement upfront they’re just chasing their tails.

Posted by: skinswest | October 9, 2009 11:28 AM | Report abuse

I completely agree that our oline is way below average....there is just no arguing that. However, I watch a lot of football, a lot, and on many other teams don't have the greatest olines either but they have backs that hit the holes given with speed and power, CP doesn't do that anymore, to describe his running as anything but plodding at this point is to exaggerate. He's reliable in pass pro, and he doesn't fumble but when you're getting 7 mil a year as a running back those shouldn't be your best qualities.

Posted by: zjfr2 | October 9, 2009 11:37 AM | Report abuse

beeps

Posted by: zjfr2 | October 9, 2009 11:38 AM | Report abuse

Same crappy posts, just a different day. I'm going out on the limb and take Skins plus 3.5

Posted by: VegasJim | October 9, 2009 11:44 AM | Report abuse

McIntosh absent, Pakulak punting
By David Elfin on Oct. 9, 2009 into Redskins 360

Linebacker Rocky McIntosh isn't on the field and Glenn Pakulak is punting for Hunter Smith as the Redskins hold their final practice of the week.
McIntosh's absence is unexplained sp far but is likely for personal reasons.
Pakulak, signed Tuesday, seems likely to fill in for the injured Smith Sunday at Carolina. If that's the case, Pakulak will have to be promoted from the practice squad and the Redskins would have to cut someone.
The chief candidates are reserve running backs Marcus Mason and Anthony Alridge, backup offensive linemen D'Anthony Batiste and Edwin Williams and rookie linebacker Robert Henson.
The Redskins could also place the ailing Anthony Montgomery on injured reserve, but that would end the defensive tackle's season.
-- David Elfin

Posted by: TWISI | October 9, 2009 11:46 AM | Report abuse

I can't believe the turmoil in DC. I have the privilege of living in Texas and have to listen to Cowboys fans go nuts every Sunday. Of course, I bought the DirecTV so I could watch my skins. I've kept up with the news via WP and Redskins.com. I can tell y'all this, i'm about to get rid of DirecTV. Zorn obviously is not the man for the Job and Cerrato and Snyder will be the downfall of our club. We need to pray, or do an "Aztec win dance" or something, I've never seen the Skins look as terrible as they have this year. Even if we are 2-2. Its beyond me that Vinny Cerrato didn't address the O-line. How can we as blue and white collar average people know more about what our team needs than those in charge? Snyder and Cerrato have tainted the prestige of the Washington Redskins. There once was a time when Dallas fans anticipated the Redskins as the ultimate opponent, now the eagles and Giants have replaced us... Fire ZORN, fire Cerrato, and fire Yourself. Hire Cowher, Hire a VP of operations who is not responsible to Snyder and Danny, shut your mouth and stay out of the way, you've destroyed OUR CLUB to the point where the truest of fans are beginning to tire of the "Deadskins." I waited 7 months for football season and now I wish it was over. Mr. Snyder, you are not Jerry Jones (not that Jerry Jones is any good either) stick to six flags and radio, get a coach who makes all the decisions and take heed to the phrase, "laissez faire"
-A truly saddened Redskins fan-

Posted by: DCXNTX | October 9, 2009 1:40 PM | Report abuse

Ever get the feeling you're watching the aftermath of a horrific car accident and they're cutting the occupants out of the car? Are they dead? Alive? I get the feeling if Snyder fired Zorn and made Lewis the OC that Blatche would refuse to take the HC job. Wouldn't the team be in a fine pickle then!!

Posted by: bullwinkle1 | October 10, 2009 6:59 AM | Report abuse

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