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Taylor a Situational Pass Rusher?

Defensive end Jason Taylor said his calf has fully healed, and he is making a mental adjustment to being a part-time player, at least for a bit. Taylor played primarily on third down, and while he understands that end Demetric Evans has been playing well on the left side in front of him, he still aims to make more of an impact on the defense.

"I felt great all night last night," Taylor said. "It's definitely the best I've felt since I've been up here. I wish I could have gave more to the team."

Taylor, who spent his entire Pro Bowl career in Miami before being acquired in July, was hobbled for much of the season with knee and calf problems but feels that he is back to being explosive again. He has never had to play the run to the degree that the ends must in Washington's system, but the Redskins took on his $8 million salary hoping he could add punch to a long lackluster pass rush.

I asked Taylor, 34, if taking 15-20 bursts on third downs and passing downs might help him, given how much time he has missed, versus being an every-down player on the field for all 60-70 snaps.

"The beauty of playing the game for me has always been in being there from the first snap to the last," Taylor said. "You use those snaps to set players up, and it's tough when you come in for spot duty and you don't have a chance to set a guy up, or give a guy a bunch of speed [rushes] and then go inside. It's tough to set players up this way and get into a groove."

Taylor said he understands that defensive coordinator Greg Blache, a longtime defensive line coach, is going to make the decisions he sees fit. "Whatever they say to do, I do," Taylor said, "and Demetric has been playing great and he deserves to be in there. Your role is always changing in this league, and my role may be to play that handful of downs now. So whatever it is I'm just player No. 55, and those guys are the bosses."

Taylor, who was on the trade market for much of the offseason after clashing with Bill Parcells in Miami after opting to do "Dancing With The Stars," has one sack this season.

By Jason La Canfora  |  November 17, 2008; 3:00 PM ET
 
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F Taylor and I dont mean Fred.

Posted by: alex35332 | November 17, 2008 3:12 PM | Report abuse

It's a bit disconcerting when you consider that the O-line is our most veteran unit on the team, but its pass protection is the chief breakdown and they are needing to focus on fundamentals.

Vinny was saying that on the radio as well. The funny thing is that they say that in a way to allay our concerns, but nothing could be more concerning to me than a bunch of vets who can no longer perform the fundamentals of their position.

That's more than a small concern, especially b/c the template to stop this team is out: blitz. And we've got at least 4 teams left on the schedule (Sea, NYG, Bmore, Philly) who are known for doing just that.

Posted by: p1funk | November 17, 2008 3:12 PM | Report abuse

I am hoping Zorn learned from the first time around. He will inform Jansen first and then let us all know later that Heyer is back in as the starter.

JM220

Posted by: icetotalpackage | November 17, 2008 3:16 PM | Report abuse

Was that a red spot we saw on those rally "RAGS" last night?

Posted by: Leeguru | November 17, 2008 3:18 PM | Report abuse

WANTED
One pass-rushing situation, good condition.

Contact Redskins Park, Attn: J. Taylor

Posted by: freakzilla | November 17, 2008 3:18 PM | Report abuse

I don't think the screen passes did anything for us yesterday.

The slants were fine...on those, you've got the receiver moving towards the goal, and the qb. We made at least a couple of firsts on slants that I recall.

But the screens take a while to develop, there's always the danger of the ball going the other way, and I don't remember seeing anything from them other than a receiver or two lit up by the defence.

I wonder if we might have had a different outcome if those screen pass plays were deep throws instead. Even if none of them worked, at least we're stretching the defense, rather than rewarding them for crowding the line.
~

Posted by: ifthethunderdontgetya | November 17, 2008 3:04 PM | Report abuse

The screens are effective for neutralizing an all-out pass rush. Since we cannot pass-block, we use them alot to mask our pass protection deficiencies. I don't mind using the RB/TE screens to pick up 5-10 yards at a time.

What bothers me are the WR screens. If we don't go deep then the DBs don't have a reason to get off the line of scrimmage, and the WR screen is useless and even dangerous b/c the ball can get picked off easily. Same goes for trying to run tosses, sweeps or reverses. The DBs are crowding the line of scrimmage and able to get in the backfield quickly to disrupt the play. The Cowboy DBs were at the line of scrimmage all night - and why not? We only went deep once.

Posted by: p1funk | November 17, 2008 3:19 PM | Report abuse

Do us all a favor and go back to the other thread click, "Report abuse" button on Poolmans post. He's an idiot and a bigot there is no need for him up here.

Posted by: Gweez | November 17, 2008 3:19 PM | Report abuse

Do we have a sack in the last 3 games? Can we consider ANYONE on our team a pass rusher?

Posted by: Rypien11 | November 17, 2008 3:22 PM | Report abuse

"...admitted that the Redskins generated not a bit of pressure Sunday night unless they rushed more than four men."

Don't kid yourself Zorn. It wasn't there with 5 or 6 either.

Posted by: Gweez

Both INTs came on blitzes. One a delayed blitz from Horton, the other came on an unblocked blitz from Landry.

Posted by: spizzle

Posted by: spizzle | November 17, 2008 3:26 PM | Report abuse

The Hall Int was a three step drop and throw. It was a bad throw not a pressure issue.

The second Int was a perfect throw and great hit by the corner which popped the ball up.

There were some good things that happened on D all night. Little had to do with a pass rush.+

Posted by: Gweez | November 17, 2008 3:28 PM | Report abuse

POOLMAN GETS PAID BY THE COMMENT -- SOMETHING TO DO WITH 'GETTING MY RENT MONEY BACK'.
IF HE EVER FIGURES OUT CAPS LOCK, HE WILL BECOME TRULY DANGEROUS.

Posted by: daggar | November 17, 2008 3:29 PM | Report abuse

I agree that Jason Taylor shouldn't replace Evans. He should replace Andre Carter. Now.

Posted by: zcezcest1 | November 17, 2008 3:32 PM | Report abuse

It all comes back to the OL. You can't go deep or set corners up with double moves like a slant and go if JC only has 3 seconds before getting drilled. The way Newman was playing up I know Santana beats that dude 9 times out of 10.

Posted by: JasonLaTempleton | November 17, 2008 3:33 PM | Report abuse

Rypien11, I think we sacked Roethisberger 3 times.

Posted by: Lisa_R | November 17, 2008 3:35 PM | Report abuse

Gweez - Not saying the pass rush was good. It wasn't, and certainly not on a consistent basis. I'm saying both INTs came on a blitz.

Both were 3-step drops and quick releases because of the blitzes. One was a bad pass and the other was great hit by Rogers predicated by the fact that he knew it was going to be a quick throw. Both had to do with the pressure from the blitzes.

Posted by: spizzle | November 17, 2008 3:36 PM | Report abuse

I'm still confused why people argued with me that this draft was a disaster and trading two picks for a old finesse defensive end was a bad idea. Everyone just said wait and see....wait and see, well I saw Thomas get the opportunities Beantown said he should get, I saw one catch, a formation penalty negating a 9 yard run on a key second half drive, and a drop on a key third down in the fourth. I watched the "healthy" pro bowl end do nothing, and once again I watched our old line get run over up the gut on pass protection and the Dline get nothing resembling pressure. Maybe this year Vinny will actually draft some lineman, oh wait, no we only have 4 picks this year and only 2 first day picks. Last year we had four, and could have revamped both lines. Instead we have a guy who can't line up or catch or run a pattern without offensive interference, a guy who can't set an alarm clock or get on the field, a TE who can't get on the field, and a lineman who is a project at best. Way to go Vinny, way to hinder your great new coach and promising young qb by continue to allow the core of your team to wither and age while continuing to add fringe pieces.

Posted by: zjfr2 | November 17, 2008 3:37 PM | Report abuse

Andre Carter came to DC to be a pass rushing DE. He was a hybrid LB/DE sort in SF and didn't like that role.

But its pretty clear that his pass rush has been AWOL for the majority of his games with us. Plus, he's usually being handled by one guy.

I hear nothing but good things about the way Carter prepares himself, but if he's not getting to the QB, then he can't be one the field ahead of Taylor.

Posted by: zcezcest1 | November 17, 2008 3:37 PM | Report abuse

Must Win Games:
Seattle, Cincy, San Fran, Philly

Win those and we are in the playoffs.

Lose one and we are done.

Simple as that.

Posted by: jgarrisn | November 17, 2008 3:39 PM | Report abuse

zjfr -- that's some fastball you got. Vinny better duck when he sees you on the mound

Posted by: zcezcest1 | November 17, 2008 3:39 PM | Report abuse

+++ I'm from the Doc Walker school of thought that says "personnel talk is for the off-season. During the season you play with who you've got."+++---BROWNWOOD

The trouble is a variation on what Walker supposedly said: "Who we've got, don't play."---CORK

+++But it's hard to take shots at Vinny with that midset so JLC won't do that...+++

What a load of hooey. He's a reporter and a columnist,. Guess what? The front office which allegedly reloaded the team with TEN NEW draftees, only produced one winner. THAT's News.

Do you realize how hard it must be to draft three receivers in the second round and not produce one of them who can help the team?

That's "Guinness Book Of records" material. As rare, I'll bet as a 13-13 tie or an 11-10 game.

Everyone gets that you would defend the front office if they got Archuletta and Bruce Smith back in uniform, but instead of criticizing those who discuss the Redskins very real shortcomings ,why don't YOU give it a rest for a while?

Posted by: brownwood26

Posted by: TheCork | November 17, 2008 3:39 PM | Report abuse

+++I agree that Jason Taylor shouldn't replace Evans. He should replace Andre Carter. Now.

Posted by: zcezcest1 ++++


Disagree. He should replace Warren Sapp on dancing with the Stars.

Posted by: TheCork | November 17, 2008 3:41 PM | Report abuse

Roethlisberger was sacked 3 times while he was coming out of the pocket and trying to run. They were coverage sacks, nothing to do with the pocket collapsing. A sack from pressure results in a 5-10 yard loss which happened to us multiple times in the last two games.

Andre Carter and Jason Taylor need to be used in different spots on the line or possibly in overloads from the same side if they're going to do anything. You can't expect them to speed or bull rush 350 lb. tackles every play.

Posted by: wizfan89 | November 17, 2008 3:42 PM | Report abuse

Again, while it's obvious that we need to have young players coming along behind our now proven to be too old guys, you CAN'T BLAME THIS DRAFT! Blame previous drafts, fine - but you can't presume that any player drafted this year will be in anything but a learning mode in their first year in the NFL. You can then argue that the picks taken in the second round were the best players available, and maybe next year or the year after, you'll be saying - boy that Davis and that Kelly, great, great picks. Or you may not - but don't conclusively state that this year's draft is the cause of all of our woe - they felt that they could make one more year with the current set of OL - I can't honestly say what the thought process was on the DL - but it's not just one draft..

Posted by: JohnDinHouston | November 17, 2008 3:45 PM | Report abuse

Rypien11, I think we sacked Roethisberger 3 times.

Posted by: Lisa_R


EVERYBODY sacks Roethlisberger three times. He hodls hte ball about two seconds too long.

Posted by: TheCork | November 17, 2008 3:45 PM | Report abuse

The Lions took 4 receivers in the first round in consecutive seasons but at least they hit on Roy and Megatron. We have taken a lot of high receivers over the last decade and have hit on none, this year we took two in the same draft, and while we really know nothing about Kelly, Thomas looks like a bad Taylor Jacobs clone so far. Say what you want about time to develop and all that, but he looks like a total bust so far.

Posted by: zjfr2 | November 17, 2008 3:45 PM | Report abuse

+++ Actress Charlize Theron was appointed Monday the newest United Nations messenger of peace. +++

I can imagine how that vote went down.

What the guy in charge said: "All in favor of appointment of Charlize Theron as messenger of peace, please raise your hand.

What the voters heard: "All in favor of getting Charlize Theron's personal home phone number, please raise your hand ...."

Posted by: zcezcest1 | November 17, 2008 3:46 PM | Report abuse

WRs drafted by the Skins since 2000
round 1, Gardner
round 2, Jacobs, Kelly, Thomas
round 3, Cliff Russell
round 5, Darnerien McCants
round 7, Ethan Howell

Of the 8 offensive linemen drafted since 2000, only 2 are NFL starters, Samuels and Dockery (now in Buffalo)

Posted by: zcezcest1 | November 17, 2008 3:52 PM | Report abuse

DOOM and motherloving GLOOM

DOOM andm otherloving GLOOM

HAIL

Posted by: TheTruth11 | November 17, 2008 3:53 PM | Report abuse

Thomas does blow, that dropped slant last night literally took years off my life... I live in TX, hate the cowboys passionately... Last night was particularly tough considering i was surrounded by them. I'm no football coach, but I think I could come up with a better scheme than running a 5 yard out to Santana Moss on 4th and 4, a draw would have been better...

Posted by: DCXNTX | November 17, 2008 3:54 PM | Report abuse

Who is Jason Taylor?

Posted by: Soup17 | November 17, 2008 3:55 PM | Report abuse

Posted by: JohnDinHouston

You blame the draft when this was the sole mode of offseason re-tooling. As admitted by the FO itself, the goal of this team was to win the division this year. Additionally, WR was the #1 position of need according to the FO. They failed due to the fact that none of the offseason acquisitions helped fulfill the needs to win the division.

It's naivete at its best to think that this team spent all offseason talking about the need for a #2 WR opposite Moss, not pick up a single FA WR, draft 2 WRs and a TE in the 2nd round, and then say that those 3 picks were solely chosen with long-term plans in mind.

Posted by: spizzle | November 17, 2008 3:56 PM | Report abuse

JohnDinHouston, in what fantasy world do no draft picks make an impact in their first year? Did you see that tight end who got draft well after ours catch that go ahead touchdown against us? Have you seen the impact that Desean Jackson, Eddie Royal, Josh Morgan, and Donnie Avery are making to their teams. Have you seen John Carlson lead the Seahawks in receiving? Have you seen Jonathan Stewart, Chris Johnson, Matt Forte, Ray Rice, and Tim Hightower all be major contributors to most likely playoff/division winning teams. Have you seen Calais Campbell and two other defensive ends taken after any of our 2nd rounders starting and playing major snaps on their teams. Have you seen linebackers and corners taken after our 2nd starting for their teams now? Does it sometime take time for draftees to develop certainly, but it doesn't take a year for every pick you make to develop? By your logic Chris Horton is a miracle since he is actually contributing this season. Oh and he was a 7th rounder, not a 2nd.

Posted by: zjfr2 | November 17, 2008 3:56 PM | Report abuse

Andre Carter came to DC to be a pass rushing DE. But its pretty clear that his pass rush has been AWOL for the majority of his games with us.

Posted by: zcezcest1 | November 17, 2008 3:37 PM

Carter had 10-1/2 sacks last year on a team where sacks were pretty rare. Sacks are a team effort and Carter's playing with three guys who aren't helping him out.

Posted by: talent_evaluator | November 17, 2008 3:56 PM | Report abuse

Darnarian McCants was a baller!

Posted by: TheTruth11 | November 17, 2008 3:57 PM | Report abuse

I still have faith in our squad though... I just wish we could look forward to watching our offense rather than our Defense for once.

Posted by: DCXNTX | November 17, 2008 3:58 PM | Report abuse

I too miss McCants!

Posted by: Soup17 | November 17, 2008 3:59 PM | Report abuse

Hi guys, sorry about last night. I watched in the hope that it might bring luck and sadly it did, although all of it was bad.

I'm 0-3 in watching Skins games this year. How much do you want to pay me not to watch any more?

Posted by: Redcoat | November 17, 2008 4:00 PM | Report abuse

seriously


jesus christ yall cry like little babies

Posted by: TheTruth11 | November 17, 2008 4:01 PM | Report abuse

Does anyone have any quality insight on what is to come of Colt Brennan? If JC is having all of these supposed "mechanics issues/form issues" (per Zorny) as a long-term vet one thing that may alleviate some of my concerns about our future is the status of our young QB in the making. Is Colt at least making progress on the practice field? Anybody know?

I like #17 and always will, but I'm afraid if he keeps taking these arse whippin's week in and week out we could find ourselves relyingon another QB very soon!

Posted by: Soup17 | November 17, 2008 4:04 PM | Report abuse

So you throw the exceptions out and presume that this represents an entire draft class of over 200 people - I'm not saying NO player makes an impact - I'm saying that few do - I'm just saying that this draft is not the draft to blame - they should have been drafting linemen before this - and this was not a great draft for high quality linemen after the first round...

I'm saying that you can't lay all of our problems this year on the feat of this year's draft.

RE: Spizzle - did you even read what I said.

Posted by: JohnDinHouston | November 17, 2008 4:05 PM | Report abuse

Redcoat,
How about the performance from ManU on Saturday?

WOW!

Posted by: Soup17 | November 17, 2008 4:05 PM | Report abuse

I think Zorn should play madden... we need to run slot outs more and send our linemen to the linemen challenge course on "all-madden" so they can get better haha

Posted by: DCXNTX | November 17, 2008 4:11 PM | Report abuse

Did anyone see how ripped Andre Carter was in comparison to 55... JT needs to take whatever he uses.

Posted by: DCXNTX | November 17, 2008 4:12 PM | Report abuse

Not a bad idea
Which versions of madden had the create a playbook? Zorn should just plug a handful of his plays into that and test em out? I would do it if I wanted to just "try an idea"

Posted by: alex35332 | November 17, 2008 4:14 PM | Report abuse

if i can beat the cowboys on the ground via madden, Zorn can do it in real life... Madden 05' had 'create a playbook' i think.

Posted by: DCXNTX | November 17, 2008 4:17 PM | Report abuse

Does anyone have any quality insight on what is to come of Colt Brennan? If JC is having all of these supposed "mechanics issues/form issues" (per Zorny) as a long-term vet one thing that may alleviate some of my concerns about our future is the status of our young QB in the making. Is Colt at least making progress on the practice field? Anybody know?

I like #17 and always will, but I'm afraid if he keeps taking these arse whippin's week in and week out we could find ourselves relyingon another QB very soon!

Posted by: Soup17 | November 17, 2008 4:04 PM | Report abuse
________________________

When I see Colt on the sidelines on TV during games, he is NOT holding a clipboard. So I'm guessing he's not smart enough to come into a game this season.

Posted by: Xlnt | November 17, 2008 4:24 PM | Report abuse

anyone who drank miller lite and watched the game last night should be ashamed of themselves, its the official beer of the Cowgirls... we were doomed from the get go.

Posted by: DCXNTX | November 17, 2008 4:29 PM | Report abuse

Gee, do ya think Parcell's knew something?? Yea, me too!! The only question is which was worse; signing JT or the three losers we picked in the second round?

Posted by: jmeaicp | November 18, 2008 12:19 PM | Report abuse

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