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JC Says He Will Play

Jason Campbell says he's good to go Thursday night, has been cleared and though he still feels some "soreness" in his left knee, it's not enough to keep him out.

Coach Joe Gibbs says he will see how Campbell gets through practice Tuesday and then make a decision. JC says he is not 100 percent yet but expects to be by Thursday. Gibbs says the kid ain't playing unless he is 100 percent.

So all indications at this point are that he will play.

Samuels says he won't play and Marcus got the sling off his elbow and hopes to be back for Sept. 9 , but will not play.
Portis is going to do more at practice this week, Gibbs said, and will be a game-time decision, though it would be pretty surprising if he did much of anything Thursday.

Springs should practice this week, too, Gibbs said.

By Jason La Canfora  |  August 27, 2007; 3:35 PM ET
 
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not first

Posted by: Anonymous | August 27, 2007 3:45 PM | Report abuse

first

Posted by: Anyone say first yet? | August 27, 2007 3:46 PM | Report abuse

You reported that Cambell may not play. It's obvious you hate the skins

Posted by: Hater | August 27, 2007 3:46 PM | Report abuse

thongs

Posted by: Anonymous | August 27, 2007 3:51 PM | Report abuse

Any word on how long the starters will be in? Should Gibbs play them longer after last week's start-and-go match?

Posted by: David | August 27, 2007 3:52 PM | Report abuse

Redcoat,

"Campbell is younger/stronger, better at scrambling, but he still has a really slow delivery to my mind. Green has none of Campbell's physical prowess and may have the yips about being clattered again, but can get rid of the ball quick, as far as he needs to throw it, but only as long as he has someone to throw to."

Green was a 3rd or 4th rounder for the Redskins. Yet another attempt by Norv/Casserly to overcome the debacle of drafting Schuler and ending up with Frerotte. Then came Brad Johnson after the loss of Green.

Campbell is a 1st rounder chosen by Joe Gibbs himself. The guy who tutored and worked with guys like Doug Williams, Jim Ray Hart, Dan Fouts and John Hadl before even coming to Washington. He made Miami 4th rounder Joe Theismann into a superbowl MVP. He made guys like Jay Schroeder, Mark Rypien and Stan Humpheries into championship quarterbacks.

That is a real problem for the Redskins, that #2 receiver position. IN the past Gibbs has dealt with his by turning fast nimble running back types in to receivers, or with a bunch of less talented 3rd / 4th receivers like the "Smurfs".

Many people don't realize that Gibbs, like Saunders failed miserably in Washington in Gibbs I when he attempted to implement a vertical offense intended for the great Dan Fouts with Joe Theismann.

That was when the Riggins based running game evolved. Play action to receivers like Art Monk ( a possession receiver and former running back) and Charley Brown. Screens and over the middle to RBs like Joe Washington et al. eventually leading to the H-Back position as a short to intermediate target. He used a dizzying array multiple sets to mask or hide what the offense planned to do which was often as simple as the Riggo drill.

Now they find themselves with a very similar team except that Moss is more of a deep threat than Monk. If one considers Thrash a Monk-like possession guy with Moss the deep threat the a similar solution seems like it would work now. They have a very talented starting 6 (including Wade) in the offensive line, a very talented mobile quarterback in Campbell, 2 running backs in Portis and Betts, and an excellent TE/H-back type player in Cooley. Plus two very reliable and dependable receivers in Moss and Thrash.

It will have to be a relatively conservative offense where running the ball is key. But they now have a QB who is not afraid to go down the field if there are receivers can run the patterns.

But depth is a problem. The loss of Moss, Cooley, or Campbell could be crippling. That I think is their biggest weakness.

The defense looks like it is set to make a run at #1. I expect Randall Godfrey to eventually start over McIntosh giving him another year of seasoning as the "4th linebacker". Its all very, very good if a sense of "team first" and chemistry can be developed this year.

AND THIS I believe is why you might see guys like Khary Campbell, and Ade Jimoh replaced by guys like Anthony Trucks, Dallas Sartz, HB Blades etc. They appear to have developed chemistry among themselves. Last year that was a serious problem with the defense.

Posted by: periculum | August 27, 2007 3:53 PM | Report abuse

I would really like to see our 1st team have some sort of an impact drive on Thursday. We didn't show very much against Bmore, i'll give them the benifit of the doubt that the Delay messed them up. (both teams looked like crap). I'm not asking for a lot just string together some 1st downs and show some sort of rhythm. I felt like we were starting to roll, then Soup went down. Please show some promise on Offense.


HTTR

Posted by: Dman | August 27, 2007 3:55 PM | Report abuse

In Gibb's interview on Redskins.com, he was talking about how KC was a rushing force when Al Saunder's was there. On two occassions he said "They ran the hang out of it"

He can't even say the word "hell", SJK.

Gotta love Joe...

Posted by: CC | August 27, 2007 3:55 PM | Report abuse

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Murder_of_Channon_Christian_and_Christopher_Newsom

Zebra - I read it and agree it is sad and should have grabbed CNN or MSNBC's attention. The interesting qoute from some media type was if there is no 'interest' group involved, then it may not got the headlines it is thought to deserve.

In America, money and special interest groups run america. What a shame.

Posted by: 4th Floor | August 27, 2007 03:55 PM

Posted by: 4th Floor | August 27, 2007 3:57 PM | Report abuse

My sources tell me I'am a hater. Cheers.

Posted by: Jason LaHater | August 27, 2007 3:57 PM | Report abuse

periculum's off his meds again.

Trent Green was an 8th round pick. Not by the 'Skins either (don't remember who.)

No vertical game in Gibbs 1.0? Monk, Clark, and Sanders never got down the field? mid 80s-early 90s? Hmmmm. I wonder what I was watching then?

Posted by: 4-12 | August 27, 2007 3:57 PM | Report abuse

thank you god, jesus, allah, jejova and all those who made this possible. sorry if i'm forgetting anyone.

btw, whomever brought up the point of CP not practicing. you're absolutely right. i guess he must be injured. tennenitis or something...

CL, that's the way we gotta be up here. F the smileys! it should be implied up here by now. we's in our 2nd year now. hell we know how often each one of us gets laid!!! or some that never get laid. that's some private shti we share. and what kinda meds we's on and need to be on.

Posted by: littery | August 27, 2007 4:00 PM | Report abuse

to tell you the truth. i wouldn't mind going osaka in the first series. just to calm some of us down. a nice 12 play TD drive. thassall i'm asking.

Posted by: littery | August 27, 2007 4:02 PM | Report abuse

JM220 - Just read the 'Page 2' Article.

When will they put this lady on page one? She made great points.

Posted by: 4th Floor | August 27, 2007 4:06 PM | Report abuse

Hi Periculum, beautifully argued as I would expect of any lawyer? But I'm not exactly sure what your point is.

You quote me at the start but out of context. I was comparing elements of our respective offenses and actually finding yours to have more options, so I'm just not sure where you were going with it.

Forgive me if I'm sometimes a little hard of thinking.

Posted by: Redcoat | August 27, 2007 4:07 PM | Report abuse

I just don't see the benefit of playing JC in Jax. Unless he is ABSOLUTELY pain free - not even a twinge or a tweak - for the Tues and Wed practices, it's not worth the risk. If it's not completely healed and he bangs it up even a little it could put him at risk of not being 100% for Miami.

My vote is to hold him out.

Posted by: CMoney | August 27, 2007 4:07 PM | Report abuse

dealitterique- Married with kids, we're all the same. We only get some in months ending in "bruary".

Posted by: 4-12 | August 27, 2007 4:07 PM | Report abuse

FYI:

U.S. Attorney General Gonzales Resigns

-wapo

Posted by: littery | August 27, 2007 4:08 PM | Report abuse

FYI:

U.S. President Nixon Resigns

-wapo

Posted by: Nate in the PDX | August 27, 2007 4:09 PM | Report abuse

LG - That was so 4 hours ago...

Posted by: 4th | August 27, 2007 4:09 PM | Report abuse

Periculum,

???? What on God's green earth makes you think Randall Godfrey is going to start over Rocky this year? Maybe if he's hurt! Have you watched any of their games this pre-season... Godfrey was brought in to fill depth for them releasing Lemar Marshall... Godfrey can play strong and weak side... I think it's very obvious Rocky ain't goin nowhere!

Posted by: E in VB | August 27, 2007 4:10 PM | Report abuse

Littery, they broke that story this morning while I was on the treadmill. Yawn.

Just give me another good Watergate anniversary story and we'll call it even.

Posted by: P Diddy | August 27, 2007 4:10 PM | Report abuse

Knee braces and clip boards all around!

Posted by: Dik | August 27, 2007 4:11 PM | Report abuse

"going osaka" is an awesome euphemism, but I'm conflicted about what it really means... showing an apparently brilliant and unstoppable offense in the pre-season -- reinforcing the genius label some attribute to the head coach -- which proves to be ineffective and all too stoppable when the games count?

Posted by: Nate in the PDX | August 27, 2007 4:12 PM | Report abuse

Yup Trent Green 8th rounder San Diego Chargers. Seems only fair given that they go Stan Humpheries as a steal. Too bad they never really used him.

Posted by: periculum | August 27, 2007 4:12 PM | Report abuse

I personally believe the U.S. Americans do not support Coach Gibbs because some people out there in our nation don't have Coach Gibbs and I believe that our education like such as in South Africa and the Iraq everywhere like such as and I believe they should our education over here in the U.S. should help the U.S. or should help South Africa or should help the Iraq and Asian countries so we will be able to build up our Coach Gibbs for us.

Posted by: Miss Teen South Carolina | August 27, 2007 4:14 PM | Report abuse

littery, they resigned Gonzalez? I thought they should have let him hit free agency.

Posted by: dcsween | August 27, 2007 4:14 PM | Report abuse

JC up on redskins.com

Hard not to really like this kid.

Posted by: CMoney | August 27, 2007 4:14 PM | Report abuse

Redcoat,

"You quote me at the start but out of context. I was comparing elements of our respective offenses and actually finding yours to have more options, so I'm just not sure where you were going with it."

Sort of describing the Redskins this year as you did Miami. I think they are pretty similar in a lot of ways this year. Should be a good match up for the first game.

And yes Trent Green was an 8th round pick by San Diego in 1993. Redskins fans can only hope that Jordan Palmer might be a similar find.

Posted by: periculum | August 27, 2007 4:15 PM | Report abuse

We only get some in months ending in "bruary".

Posted by: 4-12

Only 5 months and a few days to go!!!!

Posted by: connskins | August 27, 2007 4:16 PM | Report abuse

Hey, Nate:

farstriker
farstriker
farstriker
farstriker
farstriker
farstriker
farstriker
farstriker

NOT

fartstriker
fartstriker
fartstriker
fartstriker
fartstriker
fartstriker
fartstriker
fartstriker

That should clear things up.

Posted by: farstriker | August 27, 2007 4:17 PM | Report abuse

Peric is basically right except for the trent green redskin draft pick and the championships that stan humphries won and the john hadl thing (gibbs was only OC in san diego for a couple years with fouts) hadl played in the afl 60's /70's....on target with some of the other stuff...we will run it first and run it plenty when that is going, we will throw short, medium, long, screen, draw you name it ....said it before this offfense rolls up yards and points and dictates to a defense....

Posted by: Old School | August 27, 2007 4:17 PM | Report abuse

"In Gibb's interview on Redskins.com, he was talking about how KC was a rushing force when Al Saunder's was there. On two occassions he said 'They ran the hang out of it'"

Sounds like Gibbs-speak for we haven't had any kind of productive running attack. We need to make that an urgent priority both for this preseason game and for the 1st regular season game. We need CP/Betts to be like Priest Holmes/Larry Johnson. Make that your first priority Al.

Posted by: periculum | August 27, 2007 4:19 PM | Report abuse

"championships that stan humphries won"

With San Diego remember?

Posted by: periculum | August 27, 2007 4:21 PM | Report abuse

Really sorry about that, farstriker.

It's just a name that, when printed, sort of fools with the eye.

Also, I have the highly refined sense of humor of a nine-year-old.

Posted by: Nate in the PDX | August 27, 2007 4:24 PM | Report abuse

Anything on Kendall's possibilities for Thursday? Pooch gets the start, Kendall gets a few quarters after that? Any info or guesses?

Posted by: Nate in the PDX | August 27, 2007 4:25 PM | Report abuse

I personally believe the U.S. Americans do not support Tony Romo because some people out there in our nation don't have Tony Romo and I believe that our education like such as in Irving and the Ft. Worth everywhere like such as and I believe they should our education over here in the Ft. Worth should help the Ft. Worth or should help Irving or should help the Ft. Worth and Dallas countries so we will be able to build up our Tony Romo for us.

Posted by: Jerry Jones | August 27, 2007 4:25 PM | Report abuse

Teen Princess JJ now that's a sign of mental disease.

(US Americans, what a great set-up)

Posted by: Stumped | August 27, 2007 4:28 PM | Report abuse

PFT is reporting that the Vikings have traded a 6th round pick to the Eagles for Kelly Holcolm. I believe he is going to back up Tavaris Jackson.

Posted by: Greg(Boston) | August 27, 2007 4:28 PM | Report abuse

"Gibbs and Coryell were reunited in 1973 when the latter named Gibbs offensive backfield coach for the St. Louis Cardinals. From 1973-77, the Cardinals were 42-27-1, earning two NFC East titles.

In 1978, Gibbs became Tampa Bay's offensive coordinator under McKay. After one season with the Buccaneers, Coryell called again in 1979 and tabbed him as offensive coordinator at San Diego. In two seasons as the pilot for "Air Coryell," Gibbs helped the Chargers win two AFC West titles behind the record-setting passing of Dan Fouts."

______________________________________________________________

Thought Hadl was still floating around as a veteran backup. But he was elsewhere.

Posted by: periculum | August 27, 2007 4:28 PM | Report abuse

all i'm asking is one lousy series. 12 plays! c'mon! 12 stinkin plays. there's gotta be like 2000 plays in that 750 page playbook.

Posted by: littery | August 27, 2007 4:31 PM | Report abuse

Natester:

No worries, my post was good-humored, sort of like the childhood club that the old actor Christopher Morley had with his brother. To join, you had to sit in a corner for half an hour and NOT think of a white elephant.

handle-fun is part of RI.

Posted by: farstriker | August 27, 2007 4:31 PM | Report abuse

We'll see Kendall Thursday, because we may need him against Miami.

Probably phase him in...

Posted by: Stumped | August 27, 2007 4:31 PM | Report abuse

Rating Modern History's Best QBs.


With these improvements, my Adjusted Yards/PAR system was better than ever. But I still could not use it to compare players from different eras, because the game of football has changed so dramatically over the years. To put together any kind of historical research, I would first have to normalize each player's stats to a neutral environment. I chose the 2006 season as that environment, because that way the normalized stats will look like numbers players put up in today's context, making it easier for us to interpret them.
How to normalize: Take the raw stats. Calculate the completions/game, pass attempts/game, passing yards/game, TD passes/game, interceptions/game, rushing attempts/game, rushing yards/game, and rushing TD/game for the season in question. For the 2006 NFL, they went like this:
GP LgCmp/G LgAtt/G LgPYds/G LgPTD/G LgInt/G LgRush/G LgRYds/G LgRTD/G
---------------------------------------------------------------------------
16 19.14 32.01 219.29 1.27 1.02 28.22 117.31 0.83
Now, divide the player total in each category (completions, passing yds, etc.) by the appropriate league numbers, and multiply by the 2006 numbers. Then adjust for the length of schedule, extrapolating the raw totals to a 16-game season. Like magic, your new totals will be normalized, able to go up against any other season without fear of cross-era distortions.

Posted by: periculum | August 27, 2007 4:32 PM | Report abuse

starting line vs. Jax will be:

Jansen, Thomas, Rabach, Kendall, Wade

Posted by: CMoney | August 27, 2007 4:33 PM | Report abuse

littery, one series in THIS preseason means three plays and a punt. also, on the playbook, there are actually only about 20 different plays ... and they all get run about 14 different ways.

Posted by: dcsween | August 27, 2007 4:34 PM | Report abuse

re: gonzalez shabingus

i'm in midseason form. this the only web page i be refreshing...so if there's big noose please pass it around up here...

Posted by: littery | August 27, 2007 4:34 PM | Report abuse

peric

they lost that superbowl .....49er's 49 -26......ok

Posted by: Old School | August 27, 2007 4:35 PM | Report abuse

Nate & Far,

So now I have to sit in a corner and not think about lighting my farts?!

Posted by: Dik | August 27, 2007 4:35 PM | Report abuse

Miss Teen South Carolina....

another fine example of South Carolina's public education system!

**This message brought to by the Corridor of Shame**

Posted by: SCSkinsFan | August 27, 2007 4:36 PM | Report abuse

Does anybody else have trouble watching the game on Direct TV and trying to sync Sonny,Sams, and Frank. The only channel that i have found in sync is the Comcast nonHD feed. Now i love Sonny and Sam, but giving them up for HD? I'm torn...

Any Advice?


HTTR

Posted by: Dman | August 27, 2007 4:36 PM | Report abuse

Modern History's Best QB's.

1. John Unitas
2. Joe Montana
3. Fran Tarkington
4. Dan Marino
5. John Elway
6. Steve Young
7. Ken Anderson
8. Dan Fouts
9. Brett Favre
10. Roger Staubach
11. Christian Adolph Jurgenson
12. Len Dawson
13. Bart Starr
14. Warren Moon
15. Peyton Manning
16. Roman Gabriel
17. Norm Van Brockln
18. Y. A. Tittle
19. Terry Bradshaw
20. Bob Griese

Posted by: periculum | August 27, 2007 4:36 PM | Report abuse

Yeah, that's exactly right. Thanks so much.

Posted by: farstriker | August 27, 2007 4:36 PM | Report abuse

Peric...ever hear of Tom Brady?

He's won a thing or two...

Posted by: Greg(Boston) | August 27, 2007 4:41 PM | Report abuse

Wow....I officially have no idea what Littercy is saying....ever.

Like his hero, The Ole' Ballcoach, he makes up his own language..

Pass me the noose!

Posted by: Chris Larry | August 27, 2007 4:42 PM | Report abuse

Redskins all-time best offensive coordinators:

Joe Gibbs.
Christian Adolph Jurgenson (In those days a QB of Jurgenson's
caliber might have his own offense
and would always call his own plays.)

Vince Lombardi.
Norv Turner.

Posted by: periculum | August 27, 2007 4:43 PM | Report abuse

Okay, periculum's got that list covered. But what about this one?

Ancient History's Best QB's (mythology edition)

1. Hercules
2. Apollo (my namesake--even without the bow, he could fling it)
3. Thor
4. Horus
5. Marduk

Extra god post: god of NLF referees: Ptah

Posted by: farstriker | August 27, 2007 4:43 PM | Report abuse

oh, c'mon. We all got a little frog baseball in us, don't we?

Hey Peri, is that list in order?

Posted by: Dik | August 27, 2007 4:44 PM | Report abuse

The WaPo is builing a regular blogucopia! ANOTHER one pops up today. http://blog.washingtonpost.com/throwing-it-out-there/2007/08/which_nfl_coach_would_you_want.html

Maybe this is what CynCyty means by "busy day" (figuring the editorial stuff has nothing much going on with the Vick news).

Posted by: dcsween | August 27, 2007 4:44 PM | Report abuse

Thank QB ranking is a travesty, a sham and a mockery.

Posted by: Skinz | August 27, 2007 4:45 PM | Report abuse

LMGO Farstriker........

Posted by: Chris Larry | August 27, 2007 4:46 PM | Report abuse

Trent Green
Quarterback
Ht/Wt: 6-3, 215
Born: 7/9/1970
College: Indiana
Drafted: 1993, round 8, by the San Diego Chargers
2-time Pro Bowler: 2003, 2005

Posted by: Mark (in 21132) | August 27, 2007 4:46 PM | Report abuse

Dman, do you have a DVR? You can pause that and try to match up the Sonny/Sam audio with the game... although I think I tried that last year and it just didnt work out.

Posted by: Inigo Montoya | August 27, 2007 4:47 PM | Report abuse

Thanks, CL. I was nervous you were going to be pissed at Markuk only getting to #5. For some reason I thought you were Babylonian.

Posted by: farstriker | August 27, 2007 4:48 PM | Report abuse

Minnesota only coughed up a 6th round pick for Kelly Holcomb? Maybe the Falcons really DO want Mark Brunell (or maybe they just don't care and want to get the #1 draft pick this season).

Posted by: dcsween | August 27, 2007 4:48 PM | Report abuse

oops, Marduk. Never misspell a god's name. . . .

Posted by: farstriker | August 27, 2007 4:49 PM | Report abuse

G_Strings

Posted by: Anonymous | August 27, 2007 4:49 PM | Report abuse

I am cool with all things BC!

Polytheism rulz
monotheism drulz

Posted by: Chris Larry | August 27, 2007 4:50 PM | Report abuse

I tried polytheism but I just couldn't get into worshipping a parrot.

Posted by: farstriker | August 27, 2007 4:51 PM | Report abuse

whar's slingin' sammy?

Posted by: Dik | August 27, 2007 4:51 PM | Report abuse

What's hanging Dik?

Posted by: farstriker | August 27, 2007 4:53 PM | Report abuse

lmgo, Far

...that's an EX parrot!

Posted by: Dik | August 27, 2007 4:54 PM | Report abuse

Inigo, I've tried. The problem is the Radio is about 2-3 seconds ahead of the HD feed. When watching the regular feed it's just slightly ahead. The only real solution i've found is to plug my laptop into my stereo and use the internet feed (about 10-15 seconds behind the radio), but then its just a big pain in the ass (SJK) tryin to keep them together...

Posted by: Dman | August 27, 2007 4:54 PM | Report abuse

peri, could priest holmes could be on the list if the skins trade for him, and make him a qb?

Posted by: nah | August 27, 2007 4:55 PM | Report abuse

Dman are sam and sonny really worth the effort at this point...

Plus I find yelling and screaming at the network anchors very cathartic!

Posted by: Chris Larry | August 27, 2007 4:56 PM | Report abuse

Dik, a note of caution:

"You can't win, Darth. If you strike me down, I shall become more powerful than you can possibly imagine."

Posted by: Nate in the PDX | August 27, 2007 4:57 PM | Report abuse

"Peric...ever hear of Tom Brady?
He's won a thing or two..."

Yup.

Actually both Plunkett and Drew Bledsoe finish
way ahead of Tom Brady according to the system designed at the top 100 QB of all-time web site.

He hasn't played enough yet. And he isn't a Bledsoe nor a Plunkett. Now is he really?

21. John Hadl
22. John Brodie
23. Mark Brunell
24. Randall Cunningham
25. Bobby Layne
26. Craig Morton
27. Steve "Air" McNair
28. Jim Ray Hart
29. Phil Simms
30. Boomer Esaison
31. Jim Kelly
32. Joe Willy Namath
33. Troy Aikman
34. Joe Theismann
35. Rich Gannon
36. Ken Stabler
37. Earl Morrall
38. Bert Jones
39. Donovan McNabb
40. Dave Krieg
41. Drew Bledsoe
42. Trent Green
43. Ron Jaworski
44. Daryle Lamonica
45. Neil Lomax
46. Ken O'Brien
47. Vinnie Testaverde
48. Billy Kilmer
49. JIm Everett
50. Jim Plunkett
51. Norm Snead
52. Charley Johnson
53. Brad Johnson
54. Tom Brady

http://www.armchairgm.com/index.php?title=The_100_Greatest_Quarterbacks_of_the_Modern_Era

Posted by: periculum | August 27, 2007 4:59 PM | Report abuse

You know, Dude, I myself dabbled in pacifism once. Not in 'Nam of course.

Posted by: Walter | August 27, 2007 4:59 PM | Report abuse

Dik, e's just pinin' for the fjords.

Posted by: dcsween | August 27, 2007 4:59 PM | Report abuse

Nate, did you notice how Karl Rove looks like palpatine?!

Posted by: Dik | August 27, 2007 5:01 PM | Report abuse

Slngin Sammy isn't modern. Its more difficult to measure anything before the 50s' to modern QBs. According to the site he had to put some weights on the statistics to try match apples with apples instead of apples with oranges.

Posted by: periculum | August 27, 2007 5:01 PM | Report abuse

Too Silly. No. No. Stop all this nonsense now.

... L8rs all.

& thanks for all the stifled belly laughs!!

Posted by: Dik | August 27, 2007 5:03 PM | Report abuse

just to jump ahead ...

97. Aaron Brooks
98. Michael Vick
99. Bill Nelson
100. Tom Flores of Oakland Raider fame.

Posted by: periculum | August 27, 2007 5:03 PM | Report abuse

nihilists? well F me. Say what you will about national socialism, but at least its an ethos.

Posted by: Walter | August 27, 2007 5:03 PM | Report abuse

2 interesting entries for the Pats fan:

#54: Tom Brady - A lock to move into at least the Top 30 someday, Brady is already a three-time Super Bowl champ who sleeps with models and has a near-ubiquitous endorsement presence during football season... Remind you of anyone?

#55: Archie Manning - Because he played on so many awful teams, Archie Manning was probably better than his stats would indicate... In those rare years in which N'awlins was anywhere close to .500, Arch put up some decent numbers, including a superlative 81.9 PAR output in 1978. But we can only give him so much grace for his horrible teammates -- he had some real clunkers in there that are too bad to be simply explained away by his awful comrades. All you can do is rank him 55th and recognize that when Archie was good he was quite good, but when he was bad...

#56: Daunte Culpepper - Daunte has been one of the 5 best QBs in football during the 2000s, although those days are looong gone (hello, Oakland Raiders!). His 2004 (106.5 PAR) should be remembered as one of the great quarterbacking seasons ever, but will likely forever be upstaged by the 49 TDs tossed by this guy.

#57: Steve Grogan - The worst QB in Tecmo Super Bowl, Grogan has never been given his proper due as a player. In the late 1970s, Grogan was one the premier QBs in the league, and he led the Pats to the postseason on four occasions (including a great performance in relief of Tony Eason in 1985, en route to Super Bowl XX). A good passer and runner, Grogan deserves to be remembered for more than his awful video-game alter ego.

Posted by: periculum | August 27, 2007 5:05 PM | Report abuse

Dik:

"Oh. Oh, I see. Running away, eh? You yellow bastard! Come back here and take what's coming to you. I'll bite your legs off!"

Posted by: farstriker | August 27, 2007 5:06 PM | Report abuse

CL... you know if you can't blame the refs and yell at the idiotic announcers, half the fun of football is gone!!!

Posted by: Inigo Montoya | August 27, 2007 5:06 PM | Report abuse

A cool wind blows in
Echoing sounds of triumph,
Hail To The Redskins!

Posted by: Anonymous | August 27, 2007 5:06 PM | Report abuse

"Nate, did you notice how Karl Rove looks like palpatine?!"

Who do you think Lucas modeled Palpatine after?

Posted by: periculum | August 27, 2007 5:08 PM | Report abuse

Hey, that cool wind has a name, anonymous, and it's "periculum." And it has some hard-edged data that you CANNOT EVADE!

Posted by: farstriker | August 27, 2007 5:09 PM | Report abuse

Senor Montoya I couldn't agree more!

Posted by: Chris Larry | August 27, 2007 5:09 PM | Report abuse

That wasn't a thunderstorm at FedEx on Saturday night - it was bolts of lightning shooting out from Sean Taylor's arse!

Posted by: William W. | August 27, 2007 04:58 PM

Posted by: Anonymous | August 27, 2007 5:11 PM | Report abuse

"Minnesota only coughed up a 6th round pick for Kelly Holcomb? Maybe the Falcons really DO want Mark Brunell (or maybe they just don't care and want to get the #1 draft pick this season)."

If you were a betting man, knowing Arthur Blank and Petrino. Which would you think? Knowing in advance that high #1's flop far too often given the amount of money they receive?

Kelly Holcomb isn't on the NFL's top 100 QBs list. Mark Brunell is.

Posted by: periculum | August 27, 2007 5:11 PM | Report abuse

"Kelly Holcomb isn't on the NFL's top 100 QBs list. Mark Brunell is."

Posted by: periculum | August 27, 2007 05:11 PM

And neither Norm Van Brocklin's nor Y.A. Tittle's agents have been returning calls.

Does age and injury EVER factor into your views about a player?

Posted by: dcsween | August 27, 2007 5:16 PM | Report abuse

Mark Brunell is rated 31 spots higher than Tom Brady on that list. Damn.

Posted by: 4-12 | August 27, 2007 5:17 PM | Report abuse

Old School,

"peric
they lost that superbowl .....49er's 49 -26......ok"

True. But they still won a conference championship. So we then
ask how many superbowls did Dan Fouts win? 0. Hadl? 0. Unitas couldn't even stay on the field for one game when they got him from the colts. Well there was '61 against the Boston Patriots ... LOL

And then comes Humpheries fresh from Joe Gibbs Redskins ...

And last year at 14-2 with Rivers? The year before with Brees? In the end it apparently took a Humpheries ... at least so far.

Posted by: periculum | August 27, 2007 5:17 PM | Report abuse

"Mark Brunell is rated 31 spots higher than Tom Brady on that list. Damn."

But Brady's young and he is moving up. At least he is ahead of Grogan.

Posted by: periculum | August 27, 2007 5:18 PM | Report abuse

And 8 spots higher than Jim Kelly and 10 spots higher than Troy Aikman. Damn Damn.

Posted by: 4-12 | August 27, 2007 5:18 PM | Report abuse

i'd like to get an answer before i go jumping to confusions.
why does everyone want to "F" Chris Larry? would it really be that much fun to fondle a guy?
also, Nate, Stumped, what's the chance of one more brewhaha before the games count?

Posted by: Willie | August 27, 2007 5:18 PM | Report abuse

If you'd met chris Larry in person, Willie, you'd understand.

I vote yes on one last ODA...

Posted by: Nate in the PDX | August 27, 2007 5:20 PM | Report abuse

My liver is ready, baby!

Posted by: Stumped | August 27, 2007 5:23 PM | Report abuse

Covering The Redskins said...

Saw JLC tonight, we get along really well.. He and I seem on the same page often on team issues..
Sugarcoating isn't exactly the right word for JLC, he should tell it like it is, but here and there he might want to find some different adjectives.. Might help him avoid some criticism..
Still though, he's a good reporter and I respect his work..

12:31 AM

Posted by: Bram Weinstein | August 27, 2007 5:23 PM | Report abuse

Willie are you hitting on me?

I think people just like giving me a taste of my own F Bomb...

Or they are chubby chasers....

Posted by: Chris Larry | August 27, 2007 5:26 PM | Report abuse

F Chris Larry....Please?

Posted by: Gay guy | August 27, 2007 5:28 PM | Report abuse

On the other hand, Willie, I don't want to use up too many of my get-out-of-the-house cards before the season, since I'll be spending huge chunks of Sundays at the sports bar watching my favorite reality show. So we'll have to play it by ear, as far as beer. Maybe Stumped could weigh in here.

And this new fellow who's been posting, our compatriot Chris in Stumptown, we need to get him in the mix as well.

Posted by: Nate in the PDX | August 27, 2007 5:30 PM | Report abuse

ok, as I count it, that's one H*** Yes! from my main man Stumped, one wishy washy "maybe" from a guy with way too much on his plate, and a possible link to another Skins fan who may or may not be up for an ODA.
am i close?

Posted by: Willie | August 27, 2007 5:34 PM | Report abuse

I'd say we could make it easy on Nate and head back to Amnesia, but for some reason that might not be such a great idea....I can't remember...

Posted by: Stumped | August 27, 2007 5:34 PM | Report abuse

Waiting expectantly for the "ding-ding" cuts are here announcement.

Posted by: periculum | August 27, 2007 5:36 PM | Report abuse

Wishy-washy! That's me!

Was it "Stumptown Chris" or "Chris from Stumptown"? Was up here posting sometime in the past week, I think. Let's find that dude.

North Portland beckons, fellows. Nice bar/restaurant called Pause on Interstate Ave, walking distance from mi casa. Give it some thought as a meeting place.

Posted by: Nate in the PDX | August 27, 2007 5:37 PM | Report abuse

Gay Guy, go smoke a white owl.

Posted by: Tired of inane silliness | August 27, 2007 5:38 PM | Report abuse

"starting line vs. Jax will be:
Jansen, Thomas, Rabach, Kendall, Wade
Posted by: CMoney | August 27, 2007 04:33 PM"

might actually be Heyer Kendall Raubach, Thomas, Wade

Posted by: Jansen isn't doing so well ... | August 27, 2007 5:41 PM | Report abuse

but I still could not use it to compare players from different eras, because the game of football has changed so dramatically over the years.

Posted by: periculum | August 27, 2007 04:32 PM

Look at the Browns record with and without Otto Graham. He was the best.

Posted by: charlie | August 27, 2007 5:41 PM | Report abuse

"Look at the Browns record with and without Otto Graham. He was the best."

True. But he wasn't rated and so he wasn't on that web sites list. And couldn't the same be said for Jim Brown couldn't it? And they did have Bobby Mitchell too!

Posted by: periculum | August 27, 2007 5:43 PM | Report abuse

If you get a chance to chill with Nate you got to do it. Chris Larry is a totally another story. F CL

Posted by: jm220 | August 27, 2007 5:44 PM | Report abuse

Farstriker's History's Best QB's (comic book edition)

1. Superman
2. The Hulk
3. Thor
4. Wonderwoman
5. Howard the Duck

Posted by: Rating QBs | August 27, 2007 5:46 PM | Report abuse

From Wilbon's chat earlier today:

Winchester: Is Tony right when he says that the Redskins beat is the hardest one at The Post?

Michael Wilbon: Yes...Because every section's editors historically think they know what's going on with the Redskins. The sports editor isn't suggesting story ideas to the White House beat writers.

Posted by: Nate in the PDX | August 27, 2007 5:47 PM | Report abuse

"Nate, did you notice how Karl Rove looks like palpatine?!"

Who do you think Lucas modeled Palpatine after?

Posted by: periculum | August 27, 2007 05:08 PM

Uh, take a quick look at Rupert Murdoch, man.

Posted by: charlie | August 27, 2007 5:49 PM | Report abuse

Mighty Mouse could totally take Superman.....

Posted by: Mile High | August 27, 2007 5:50 PM | Report abuse

"Mighty Mouse could totally take Superman..."

Posted by: Mile High | August 27, 2007 05:50 PM

Have you ever even SEEN Popeye's pocket presence?

Posted by: dcsween | August 27, 2007 5:54 PM | Report abuse

I love all the mythology/comics/Python/Star Wars stuff that gets dropped up here, but I bet it's super-annoying to many. Oh right, that's part of the fun.

Beats the stuffing out of more Vick talk, though, that's for sure.

Posted by: Nate in the PDX | August 27, 2007 5:55 PM | Report abuse

Forget Superman and Mighty Mouse. I am going old school Godzilla. LMGO

Posted by: jm220 | August 27, 2007 5:58 PM | Report abuse

"Uh, take a quick look at Rupert Murdoch, man.

Posted by: charlie | August 27, 2007 05:49 PM"

Who do you think he modeled his appearance after? When Rove was the beginning of a Republican demagogue Rupert was a Communist with a bust of Lenin on his desk.

Posted by: Rupert was a commie | August 27, 2007 5:59 PM | Report abuse

Sween,
Not sure what you mean by pocket presence...oh, I get it -- football.

Posted by: Stumped | August 27, 2007 6:00 PM | Report abuse

The Vick story is only football-related in that he's a football player, so its not that different than the blather to pad the blog count pending another real bit of Skins news. Had some Vick thoughts at the end of the last one that got lost in the jump (I don't repost, blogcount be damned, its about integrity).

Posted by: dcsween | August 27, 2007 6:00 PM | Report abuse

Monster Island QB ratings:

1. Godzilla
2. Gammera the space turtle
3. Mothra
4. Mecha-Godzilla
5. Rodan
6. Manda
7. Kumonga
8. Kamacuras
9. Minilla
10. Gorosaurus

11. TMNT: Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles

Posted by: Monster Island and Japan join NFL | August 27, 2007 6:03 PM | Report abuse

When you gotta go number 3, you gotta go...

http://www.news.com.au/story/0,23599,22313568-13762,00.html

Posted by: 4-12 | August 27, 2007 6:04 PM | Report abuse

Oh yeah, not trying to say we haven't had some good conversation up here inspired by Vick. Just that I sort of got worn down by it... brutal, ugly story without any real positive, that only gets worse the more you hear and the more that's said.

sween, I consider your post at the tail end of the last thread to be a fitting "last word" on the subject. Though of course it won't be.

Posted by: Nate in the PDX | August 27, 2007 6:05 PM | Report abuse

We're gonna need a HUGE week up here to hit the Boren Penultimatum. I think we're up to the task, blog peeps. We can do it.

Posted by: Nate in the PDX | August 27, 2007 6:07 PM | Report abuse

1. Gigantor
2. Astroboy
3. Autobots.
4. Deceptacons
5. Tobor the Eigthman


6. The Mask with Jim Carrey.

Posted by: Famous Japanese Robots QB ratings | August 27, 2007 6:08 PM | Report abuse

4-12 best post of the day. LMGO!!!!

Posted by: jm220 | August 27, 2007 6:08 PM | Report abuse

The place has been roaring since the Return of the Deputy. Seriously, the rate has nearly doubled or tripled ... though it could also be attributed to today being a Monday.

Posted by: dcsween | August 27, 2007 6:09 PM | Report abuse

"We can only guess what he was doing in there."

Oh, they knew but they didn't want to say.

Posted by: charlie | August 27, 2007 6:09 PM | Report abuse

Amen, Nate! We've got cuts to discuss tomorrow....

Posted by: Cindy | August 27, 2007 6:09 PM | Report abuse

"We can only guess what he was doing in there."

Oh, they knew but they didn't want to say.

Posted by: charlie | August 27, 2007 06:09 PM

Might explain why he was red face. LMGO

Posted by: jm220 | August 27, 2007 6:10 PM | Report abuse

Best part of that story, 4-12, is that they put slap on the wrist in quotes!

Posted by: Cindy | August 27, 2007 6:10 PM | Report abuse

Good news on Campbell and the others. Thanks, JLC.

All in all, this has been an extremely positive pre-season. Only a handful of minor injuries and we appear to be a competitive football team. Nothing even remotely close to the routs handed down a year ago to the Bengals, Jets, Ravens, and Pats.

Can't wait for Miami.

Posted by: Ricky Bobby | August 27, 2007 6:11 PM | Report abuse

"We can only guess what he was doing in there."

#101 in the QB ratings: John "whip it, whip it good" Holmes

Posted by: next 100 QB ratings | August 27, 2007 6:11 PM | Report abuse

"Mr Cullip said when police arrived, they took the man to collect the $9.95 and returned with him to pay the money back.

He said the man had been given a "slap on the wrist" for trespass."

>>> Huh. I wonder why the words "slap" and "wrist" are in quotation marks.

Posted by: dcsween | August 27, 2007 6:12 PM | Report abuse

Kost52 should be here soon. We'll have to ask him if "slap on the wrist" means something different in his "language"

Posted by: 4-12 | August 27, 2007 6:13 PM | Report abuse

Dude! Don't do it in the disabled persons bathroom that's bad form!

Posted by: sfskin | August 27, 2007 6:14 PM | Report abuse

Also doesn't stuff like this usually happen in Florida? Or Germany?

BTW Godzilla would be a killer o-lineman but maybe not so much the QB.

Here is why the QB rating list is a sham. Aaron Brooks is on it.

Posted by: sfskin | August 27, 2007 6:16 PM | Report abuse

I need more info on "Fiesta" mag.

Posted by: Cindy | August 27, 2007 6:18 PM | Report abuse

slap on the wrist should be Kost's fantasy team name

Posted by: Anonymous | August 27, 2007 6:18 PM | Report abuse

Seriously there is nothing not good about this story. The magazine was called "Fiesta" - now there's a name for xxx.

Also I love that the clerk thought the guy looked "too casual" - what does that mean? Doesn't everyone try to look casual rather than pervy when purchasing the porn?

Posted by: sfskin | August 27, 2007 6:18 PM | Report abuse

He went and had a "Fiesta" in the bathroom.

Hope there was a "clean up on the aisle" afterwards. . . did I just take it too far? I think I just took it to far. . .

Posted by: sfskin | August 27, 2007 6:20 PM | Report abuse

guy looked "too casual" - what does that mean? Doesn't everyone try to look casual rather than pervy when purchasing the porn?

LMGO!!

Posted by: jm220 | August 27, 2007 6:21 PM | Report abuse

'I need more info on "Fiesta" mag.'

Posted by: Cindy | August 27, 2007 06:18 PM

From the language, I would guess its a Latin Australian publication.

Posted by: dcsween | August 27, 2007 6:21 PM | Report abuse

I hate people who use the disabled bathroom; Larry David did a nice episode about that on "Curb Your Enthusiasm."

Posted by: Cindy | August 27, 2007 6:21 PM | Report abuse

Hope there was a "clean up on the aisle" afterwards. . . did I just take it too far? I think I just took it to far.

Why are you shoes sticking to the floor? LMGO!! OK I got to give myself the corner for that one.

Posted by: jm220 | August 27, 2007 6:22 PM | Report abuse

This fiesta is getting a little too sticky for me.

Posted by: charlie | August 27, 2007 6:25 PM | Report abuse

Give yourself a "slap on the wrist."

Posted by: Cindy | August 27, 2007 6:25 PM | Report abuse

Posted by: Famous Japanese Robots QB ratings | August 27, 2007 06:08 PM

What about Johnny 5? He was the ultimate!

Posted by: 4th Floor | August 27, 2007 6:25 PM | Report abuse

Sen. Larry Craig got a "slap on the wrist" too. Evidently the new issue of Fiesta was available in Minneapolis.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2007/08/27/AR2007082701235.html?hpid=topnews

Posted by: Cindy | August 27, 2007 6:30 PM | Report abuse

JM220, I read the espn story. We could agree that the outrage over Vick is out of proportion to what happened previously with, say, Lewis. We would then agree that Brown vs Board of Ed is out of proportion to what was acceptable prior. Now don't flame on me, please. My point is that people and mores change. And, contrary to popular belief, these changes are frequently sudden rather than gradual, as if I just woke up and saw the light. Are we behind the curve on other things that are arguably more important? Yes, resoundingly! Spousal abuse, in fact any assault by a person in a position of trust is heinous. Drunken driving resulting in death is far more damaging to society than dog fighting. We can agree and hope that our mores and priorities will make those leaps soo, too. And , PS, I have, since his arrest, considered Lewis to be an accessory after the fact in a murder.

And I agree with dcsween, none of these criminal stories have anything to do with sports other than that the criminals are public atheletes. They outta leave them off the sports page and put them where they belong, wherever that is.

Posted by: Neil in Durango | August 27, 2007 6:33 PM | Report abuse

What's up with rich people trying to commit suicide?

Wilson is crazy. And finally, here's the proof he's not just crazy in the movies.....

Posted by: 4th Floor | August 27, 2007 6:34 PM | Report abuse

Depression, bipolar disorders don't respect income. And money doesn't buy happiness; it only pays for subscriptions to "Fiesta" mag.

Posted by: Cindy | August 27, 2007 6:36 PM | Report abuse

Senator Craig statement:

"I was trying to handle this matter myself quickly and expeditiously."

Yeah that's why you got busted.

Posted by: sfskin | August 27, 2007 6:38 PM | Report abuse

Neil in Durango as I told CL. It seems to me she was trying to say we need to be just as concern if not more about human beings. For me it wasn't really about Vick.

Posted by: jm220 | August 27, 2007 6:39 PM | Report abuse

I think sfskin should get the corner as well.

Posted by: jm220 | August 27, 2007 6:40 PM | Report abuse

Any word on cuts yet?
Been out all day....

And peri....do you even bother with facts when you come up with your crazy ideas? If you are a lawyer I would think you would be a little more accurate on the details, like when Green was draft or Priest Holmes being a running back not a WR, you know little things like that.

Posted by: Jack | August 27, 2007 6:40 PM | Report abuse

We need a bigger corner. This one's getting crowded.

Posted by: Cindy | August 27, 2007 6:41 PM | Report abuse

How is your friend doing Cindy?

Posted by: jm220 | August 27, 2007 6:43 PM | Report abuse

Yeah we do need a bigger corner because I don't like being here without Lisa. lol

Posted by: jm220 | August 27, 2007 6:44 PM | Report abuse

jm - I went to the corner a while ago.

It's more fun here plus maybe there's an issue of Fiesta . . . .sadly even the corner won't stop me from being a smarta$$.

Posted by: sfskin | August 27, 2007 6:45 PM | Report abuse

Thanks for asking, JM. They did a biopsy to determine what type of tumor this is and the oncologist will tell her this week what her treatment will be. He did say this was treatable, but not curable. Don't know yet if it's anywhere other than in her bones (and in the little lump that got her attention). She is still in shock, but she'll rally and fight it.

Posted by: Cindy | August 27, 2007 6:47 PM | Report abuse

Holcomb traded for a 6th rounder to the vikings.......

Anybody think we can get a 7th and a ham sandwich for Brunel?

Posted by: Jack | August 27, 2007 6:49 PM | Report abuse

Does anybody else have trouble watching the game on Direct TV and trying to sync Sonny,Sams, and Frank. The only channel that i have found in sync is the Comcast nonHD feed. Now i love Sonny and Sam, but giving them up for HD? I'm torn...

Posted by: Dman | August 27, 2007 04:36 PMHTTR


Yes. Contact the dudes who have come up with a way to get stuff to go faster than the speed of light. Then get Direct TV to buy it. See, Direct TV is a satellite TV, and the lil elctrons have to go waaay out up to the satelite, which is in GEOSYNCHRONOUS ORBIT 25K miles above, then come all the way back.This is why the Radio is ahead of it.

It should be 2-3 seconds, tho,l but the elecrtons may stop for a snack. ANd I'm not even smart in the sciences. Now ask me about the ameliorating effect of the Ocean.

Posted by: Corkczar | August 27, 2007 6:55 PM | Report abuse

Who has a lump? Take heart. My wife's oncologist tells us that many cancers are being treated more as a chronic disease like diabetes and less like a catastrophic disease. My wife is six years since her last dose, assault, of chemo.

Posted by: Neil | August 27, 2007 7:03 PM | Report abuse

Thanks, Neil. It's a friend of mine who had breast cancer in '95. She'd been cancer-free until this. You're right -- it'll be very manageable.

Posted by: Cindy | August 27, 2007 7:07 PM | Report abuse

"And peri....do you even bother with facts when you come up with your crazy ideas? If you are a lawyer I would think you would be a little more accurate on the details, like when Green was draft or Priest Holmes being a running back not a WR, you know little things like that."

I need only refer to Redskins past roster to show that Holmes working as a hybrid receiver is something that is feasible and will in all likelihood be how he is used in KC if they keep him there and let him come back.

Jack your overall lack of intelligence and imagination is becoming more than a bit boring.

1990 Redskins

RB Kelvin Bryant
Kelvin Bryant Rushing Stats 6 24 4.0 0
Receiving Stats 26 248 9.5 1

1989 Redskins
RB Kelvin Bryant
No Rushing stats
Receiving Stats 42 447 10.6 5

1980 Redskins

WR Art Monk (RB from Syracuse University)

1969 Redskins:

WR/RB * Charley Taylor

1966 Redskins featuring one of the most prolific offenses in history:

WR/RB * Bobby Mitchell
WR/RB * Charley Taylor


Posted by: periculum | August 27, 2007 7:10 PM | Report abuse

And I send a salute to your wife, Neil.

Posted by: Cindy | August 27, 2007 7:11 PM | Report abuse

when are we cutting renaldo wynn for kenard lang?

Posted by: Anonymous | August 27, 2007 7:19 PM | Report abuse

Did you know the Bengals starting offense haven't scored a TD in pre season? And they have all their starters. They really going to suck this year lol

Posted by: jm220 | August 27, 2007 7:22 PM | Report abuse

WE HAVE CUTS!

DB Jerametrius Butler
DE Jamaal Green
LB Kevin Jones
WR Jerel Myers
WR Todd Pinkston
DT Bryant Shaw

Posted by: Cindy | August 27, 2007 7:31 PM | Report abuse

This puts them at 79 and they have to be at 75 by 4 p.m. Tuesday.

Posted by: Cindy | August 27, 2007 7:32 PM | Report abuse

Thanks for the update Cyn Cyty. No shockers there.

Posted by: jm220 | August 27, 2007 7:33 PM | Report abuse

"Who has a lump? Take heart. My wife's oncologist tells us that many cancers are being treated more as a chronic disease like diabetes and less like a catastrophic disease. My wife is six years since her last dose, assault, of chemo."

For many the aggressiveness of the treatments ends up doing more damage than the disease. Used to be after 5 years you were cured.

Posted by: periculum | August 27, 2007 7:34 PM | Report abuse

WE HAVE CUTS!

DB Jerametrius Butler
DE Jamaal Green
LB Kevin Jones
WR Jerel Myers
WR Todd Pinkston
DT Bryant Shaw

This puts them at 79 and they have to be at 75 by 4 p.m. Tuesday.

Posted by: Cindy | August 27, 2007 07:32 PM

That probably means that the other 4 are folks who have been with the team for a while longer and Gibbs/Williams/position coaches probably want to spend some quality time when they tell them.

Posted by: periculum | August 27, 2007 7:37 PM | Report abuse

If the Redskins can run the ball consistenly, I predict at least a 9 and 7 season at the worst. You have to remember with any resemblance of a better defense we will three more games last year.

Posted by: sicwidit | August 27, 2007 7:37 PM | Report abuse

Top 5 Greatest plays in the llast 25 years for the Resdkins

5) Darryl Greene's Run-down of Tony Dorsett
4) Santana Moss's two bombs in the last 3 minutes of the fourth quarter.
3) Dexter Manley KO of Danny White in the NFC Championship
2) Darryl Grant's touchdown
1) John Riggins runs over Don McNeal at 4th and 1

Honorable mention: Brigg Owens stop on the 1 yard line (over 25 years ago though)

Posted by: sicwidit | August 27, 2007 7:43 PM | Report abuse

wasn't that Ken Houston on the 1?
maybe it was Brig...

Posted by: RBD202 | August 27, 2007 7:45 PM | Report abuse

We have 79, but 4 Europa exceptions, so we don't need to cut anyone else just yet.

Posted by: kost52 | August 27, 2007 7:51 PM | Report abuse

Posted by: Stumped | August 27, 2007 7:52 PM | Report abuse

Top 5 Greatest plays in the llast 25 years for the Resdkins

5) Darryl Greene's Run-down of Tony Dorsett
4) Santana Moss's two bombs in the last 3 minutes of the fourth quarter.
3) Dexter Manley KO of Danny White in the NFC Championship
2) Darryl Grant's touchdown
1) John Riggins runs over Don McNeal at 4th and 1

Honorable mention: Brigg Owens stop on the 1 yard line (over 25 years ago though)

Posted by: sicwidit | August 27, 2007 07:43 PM

No Lavar ending Aikman's career? That's definitely on my Worst 5 Ever.

And of course, "No Danny!"

Posted by: SMACK in the OBX | August 27, 2007 8:01 PM | Report abuse

On the Channel 4 news tonight with George and Sonny, Gibbs went after Jason again for fabricating that crap about Heyer giving up the sack when Campbell was injured. He said that the article was just wrong: Heyer has faced three of the best DEs in the league and hasn't given up a sack in any of the preseason games.

Posted by: talent evaluator | August 27, 2007 8:02 PM | Report abuse

Smack,

You know that was a good hit, but it wasn't a game-changer. Career-changer, yes, but game-changer, no. I have fonder memories of the interception LaVar had against Tampa that completely turned that game around. Or Sean Taylor's blocked kick and run back that miraculously changed the Dallas game last year.

Posted by: talent evaluator | August 27, 2007 8:07 PM | Report abuse

Cindy,

I'm curious with all this flak that jasno's been taking lately have danny's henchman called up the post and threatened them to get rid of jasno?
At the least have any warnings been passed down? His posts and stories lately don't seem like the old cheery jasno from over the summer?

Posted by: Dante | August 27, 2007 8:08 PM | Report abuse

Only small surprise in the cuts is that pinkston came and went soo fast. Makes you wonder why he ever came/ was brought into camp. If i were him i would feel like i had been wasting my time

Posted by: Dante | August 27, 2007 8:10 PM | Report abuse

Jasno has not been warned or cautioned or told to change by any of us. And Dan Snyder and his folks don't really call us up with threats. The relationship with them is very civil.

Posted by: Cindy | August 27, 2007 8:25 PM | Report abuse

Dante,

The question about pressure on Jason came up today on Michael Wilbon's chat and he gave what I thought was a pretty spirited, indirect defense of Jason. My take was that even if the Redskins had complained that the Post would not likely put any pressure on Jason.

"NO writers -- none -- should be homers. And none should be looking to offer a positive outlook. That's what leagues/networks/teams/players pay public relations professionals to do. We're there to look at things with a skeptical eye... The beat writer is there to chronicle what happens...not just take the coach's word for it or settle for what the team wants to reader/viewer/listener to know, but to chronicle as best is possible everything going on worth discussing."

"This might sound naive, but it needs to be said as people know less and less about what newspapers do. The Washington Post, not the Redskins, pays the beat writer who covers the Redskins, whether that was Paul Attner, Christine Brennan, Gary Pomerantz, Richard Justice, Tom Friend, David Aldridge, Mark Maske, Jason LaCanfora, Howard Bryant or anybody else (God, I hope I didn't forget somebody: that's the roster since 1977). We're not there to be positive or turn a blind eye and deaf ear. We're there to report what's happening as if it was Capitol Hill, and to be fair about it, which means getting the view of all sides included. The columnist is there to comment, which also should entail talking to people, and being fair."

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/discussion/2007/08/23/DI2007082301552.html

Posted by: talent evaluator | August 27, 2007 8:27 PM | Report abuse

I have to squeeze Darryl Green's punt return against the Bears in there....

Posted by: sicwidit | August 27, 2007 8:28 PM | Report abuse

If I was Pinkston I'd be mad to but at least we gave him a shot - unless he was just brought in as an extra body during camp but St. Joe would never do that.

Posted by: David | August 27, 2007 8:28 PM | Report abuse

Dante,

You referred to "danny's henchmen." Now, I'm wondering whether that's the right term? Maybe they're really: minions, lackeys, toadies, psychophants, goffers, acolytes, possee, entourage, mates, droogs, apprentices, underlings, subordinates, staff, or (most likely) employees.

Posted by: talent evaluator | August 27, 2007 8:35 PM | Report abuse

sicwidit
now I am unsure...was it brig or kenny houston who made the tackle on the 1? please help me out

Posted by: RBD202 | August 27, 2007 8:36 PM | Report abuse

Hey Walter at 5pm, good to see another fan of "the duder" here!

Posted by: Redcoat | August 27, 2007 8:43 PM | Report abuse

And PEriculum, right you are!

Posted by: Redcoat | August 27, 2007 8:44 PM | Report abuse

My 5 favorite Redskins moments:

5) Jay Schroeder throws two great td's in the face of the blitzing Bears defense in the 1986 playoffs. 'Skins win 27-13.

4) 1991, week #10 against the Giants. Being down 13-0 at halftime and winning 17-13 in the second half. That was a huge monkey off our back.

3) Darrell Green's punt return TD in the 1987 playoffs against the Bears.

2) The entire 2nd quarter of SBXXII!!!

1) Oh yeah....good 'ol 70 chip on 4th and one. You always remember your first!

Posted by: Montana'Skins Fan | August 27, 2007 8:47 PM | Report abuse

I guess all that tumult over Pinkston signing looks dumb.....

JM220 sorry I dont agree with you....do I get the Hammer?

Posted by: Chris Larry | August 27, 2007 8:47 PM | Report abuse

CL--I'm not sure the tumult over Pinkston looks dumb, but it is settled pretty quickly. It occurs to me that most of the tumult on this blog will be settled in time--some quickly like this and others not for a decade. It's not about existential things that will never be settled.

We need a scorekeeper to keep statistics on who was right and who was wrong.

Posted by: talent evaluator | August 27, 2007 8:53 PM | Report abuse

Did someone say 'tumult'?

Posted by: Nate in the PDX | August 27, 2007 9:05 PM | Report abuse

That was me!!! I am full of suprises!!!!

Posted by: Chris Larry | August 27, 2007 9:09 PM | Report abuse

Nate--We're guilty. But we have an excuse. We forgot you were back. If we'd remembered, we never would have done it. Sorry. We won't do it again within your earshot or, more accurately, eyeshot.

Posted by: talent evaluator | August 27, 2007 9:10 PM | Report abuse

Good to see you back Nate!

Posted by: kost52 | August 27, 2007 9:13 PM | Report abuse

His posts and stories lately don't seem like the old cheery jasno from over the summer?

the dude just had a second baby. (if you don't know anyone with 2 little kids...nevermind) the dude works on the skins beat! and they just added this thing called blog. AND he's seeing the writing on the wall "14-2!!!" all the way to the superbowl. that means WORK. nonstop INSANE FEEDING of the beast! till MARCH! no relief in sight. that's what's wrong with him! poor guy.

jasno, hang in there buddy!

Posted by: littery | August 27, 2007 9:13 PM | Report abuse

littery...just go with

15-D

Posted by: SCSkinsFab | August 27, 2007 9:15 PM | Report abuse

Kenny Houston stopped Walt Garrison at the 1 yd line.
Great memory for me was the 26-3 drubbing of the cowpokes in 72, which sent us to our 1st superbowl appearance, which had a shtity ending. We redeemed ourselves with the win over the Dolphins for the 1st of our three wins.

Posted by: cosmofla | August 27, 2007 9:16 PM | Report abuse

Yeah, littergy, I would imagine a lot of the joy has been wrung out of this thing for Jasno lately. Glad some help on the Skins beat is coming in the person of that new reporter Cindy mentioned.

I worry about it, though. Right now is the one time you should be psyched about the season, when the grind is still somewhat 'fresh' and you're coming in off very recent vacation... we need a strong, happy Jasno leading us through the year!

Goodness knows what we'd do without this silly, wonderful blog.

Posted by: Nate in the PDX | August 27, 2007 9:18 PM | Report abuse

Jimmy Johnson's Hair
Nice selection Nate

Posted by: RBD202 | August 27, 2007 9:19 PM | Report abuse

No hammer CL

Posted by: jm220 | August 27, 2007 9:19 PM | Report abuse

JM220-

Good, as I said I am down with the humanity v humanity vibe....I am way bleeding heart pinko....

I just don't like pigging back issues on other issues....but agree the world sucks and people treat eachother like siht constantly....

Posted by: Chris Larry | August 27, 2007 9:23 PM | Report abuse

This Date in RI History
(sorry, MV Dame)

Nothing happened.

Seriously. I can't find a single comment in the archives dated 8/27/06. And we played a freakin' preseason game, that 41-0 shabingus against New England which was a clear sign of what lay ahead. Wow.

Posted by: Nate in the PDX | August 27, 2007 9:23 PM | Report abuse

Top 5 greatest plays...how about Dexter Manley's "sneeze" vs Saints!

Posted by: cosmofla | August 27, 2007 9:25 PM | Report abuse

I will say that in the archives Jasno's head shot looks younger, happier, thinner, more tanned, and altogether more handsome.

Where did that nice young man go? What have we done to him?

Posted by: Nate in the PDX | August 27, 2007 9:25 PM | Report abuse

Did anybody actually watch the presser? Anything happening?

talent-E, I cannot believe Gibbs is still talking about that nonsense beef with Jasno. I mean, come on already! The left side of the line was not looking good, their plan to fill the Dockhole had clearly not worked, and it was our biggest problem two weeks into the preseason. And it was a problem we could all kind of see coming. And after some blustery protest, they went out and rather impressively found a remedy in Pete Kendall. I mean, come on already. Gibbie, you're better than that!

Posted by: Nate in the PDX | August 27, 2007 9:29 PM | Report abuse

Thanks, RBD202. I can't quite figure out what direction that new blog is going to take, and I have trouble keeping up with ONE blog so there's no chance I'll be splitting my allegiance. But it's an intriguing concept, I think.

Posted by: Nate in the PDX | August 27, 2007 9:32 PM | Report abuse

Kudos to Redcoat for putting up the highest score of the round and getting his maiden victory!

Posted by: kost52 | August 27, 2007 9:33 PM | Report abuse

See, this is the problem. I just blab and blab and blab.

Anybody watching the game? Is it all Vick all the time? Bengals-Falcs?

How's TK doing?

Posted by: Nate in the PDX | August 27, 2007 9:34 PM | Report abuse

What about the Monday Night Miracle as far as greatest moments go? That one has to be up there for me.

Posted by: Ricky Bobby | August 27, 2007 9:36 PM | Report abuse

"Dockhole" I like that, sounds like the kind of thing you need to plug!

Posted by: kost52 | August 27, 2007 9:36 PM | Report abuse

Nate, Gibbs didn't bring it up. George asked him a question about it -- and a follow-up question. But Gibbs didn't let up at all.

Did anyone notice that our boy, Lance Briggs has been charged for leaving the scene of an accident. There's one more mistake that the FO didn't make this summer.

Posted by: talent evaluator | August 27, 2007 9:37 PM | Report abuse

This just in. Bengals, for some unexplained reason, blow. Carson Palmer's fantasy stock (if you believe in that type of thing) in the pooper.

Posted by: dcsween | August 27, 2007 9:37 PM | Report abuse

Nate...Blab away!

TK always the bomb

Good off game on both sides.......Joey H played pretty well...Chad Johnson ownes the D...

Way to much Vick...were interviewing Mort WHEN ATLANTA SCORED!!!!!!

ESPN Monday Night is ALWAYS interviewing people during game time...so silly...

Posted by: Chris Larry | August 27, 2007 9:38 PM | Report abuse

Nate
I dont think it is really a blog - just an effort to expand their intraweb viewers. Interesting to note how some people post legit answers and some don't. I think I know where this crowd falls...

Posted by: RBD202 | August 27, 2007 9:38 PM | Report abuse

By the way, a "slap on the wrist" over here is basically just a minor punishment, which I'm guessing it means over there. Nothing like any of the scenarios you naughty people imagined! hahaha

And just to make sure you know, I live nowhere near Darwin!

Posted by: kost52 | August 27, 2007 9:41 PM | Report abuse

Nate--Gibbs has never said that there wasn't a problem on the left side of the line. His point has been that Heyer isn't the problem. There's no inconsistency between what he said and the Kendall signing.

Posted by: talent evaluator | August 27, 2007 9:41 PM | Report abuse

WE HAVE CUTS!

DB Jerametrius Butler
DE Jamaal Green
LB Kevin Jones
WR Jerel Myers
WR Todd Pinkston
DT Bryant Shaw

Posted by: Cindy | August 27, 2007 07:31 PM

On the WR turnstile, several more have yet to tumble. Four defenders. Two on offense. Sorry Bryant, keep your ear to the grindstone (double bad on me, see you did that already ... twice). Shouldn't be a surprise about Pinkston. Dee Brown (RB) got the same turnstile action to make room for the new FB, Beasley.

Posted by: dcsween | August 27, 2007 9:42 PM | Report abuse

Aye, legit answers tend to get crowded out with silliness at times up here. And I know from silliness.

Funny that of all things a football game would break out during ESPN's Vick coverage. They must be kind of miffed about that. Of all the nights to have a good, competitive, actually interesting game! And by week four of the Real season they'll probably be airing some lousy matchup...

Posted by: Nate in the PDX | August 27, 2007 9:43 PM | Report abuse

Kenard Lang cut from Broncos. Can we get him back please!!!!

Posted by: Hellooooo | August 27, 2007 9:45 PM | Report abuse

interesting, t.e. So how do they bury the hatchet, or do they?

Does this end with Jasno leaping aboard the Sports Machine and beating George Michaels senseless with his toupee?

Posted by: Nate in the PDX | August 27, 2007 9:47 PM | Report abuse

Sikwidit,

You forgot Timmy Smiths long run in the superbowl which is excusable.

D. Green's punt return holding his rib oafter the "hurdle"is not.

It's pretty much only clearly beaten by riggo's run.

Posted by: Skinz | August 27, 2007 9:48 PM | Report abuse

Has Bryant Shaw heard the news yet?

Posted by: Nate in the PDX | August 27, 2007 9:50 PM | Report abuse

kost, slap ON the wrist means the same thing in America as Australia. Slap WITH the wrist, as I understand, is universal and international (except Esperato and Latin, which is still only used by the Vatican ... I best not go there).

On other pressing matters, by next week the Skins will need to cleave a safety and a corner, and then one more from the secondary, probably a couple LBs, a couple of DTs, a couple/three O-linemen, one or two RBs, a TE and/or an FB, and the balance made up for in WRs. Its gonna get messy come next Sunday. I think we might need to ready what the BFKAB (Blogger Formerly Known as Boofer) called "Boo Hoo boxes."

Posted by: dcsween | August 27, 2007 9:50 PM | Report abuse

Jason wears a toupee?

Posted by: RBD202 | August 27, 2007 9:50 PM | Report abuse

kenard lang cut today...can someone explain how he is not an upgrade over renaldo wynn?

Posted by: Chris Larry | August 27, 2007 9:53 PM | Report abuse

CynCyty, Nate (9:25) makes an excellent point. Its a new season. I believe that would mean its time for new photos of Jasno, Maske, Boswell, Wise, Wilbon, TK, and an Attorney General.

Posted by: dcsween | August 27, 2007 9:53 PM | Report abuse

'his toupee' was intentionally unclear. Glad you liked.

So which regular went under the pseudonym BOOFER? I agree with the sentiment that he was probably one of us, just trying to keep things mixed up.

My money's on Lisa. Who has been MIA, BTW.

Posted by: Nate in the PDX | August 27, 2007 9:53 PM | Report abuse

Um, is Kenard Lang any good? I love the idea of coming home to DC as much as anybody, but how much could he have left?

Too lazy to pull up stats.

Agreed that he'd most likely be an upgrade over Wynn...

Posted by: Nate in the PDX | August 27, 2007 9:55 PM | Report abuse

I must admit, I had never heard of going for a "Number Three" until this morning!

Posted by: kost52 | August 27, 2007 9:57 PM | Report abuse

hey nate, i wanted to ask you if you had a job before you moved up there? i'm trying to follow your footsteps but kinda been hard...

if so...and i can e-mail you if you'd like...but if so how did you go about getting a job up there?

Posted by: littery | August 27, 2007 9:58 PM | Report abuse

nate, lisa is mad at jasno for being "biased"...but i do miss her. especially during the day.

Posted by: littery | August 27, 2007 9:59 PM | Report abuse

I too agree that he is probably an improvement over Wynn, but will Wynn make the team anyway? It wouldn't surprise me if a couple of the younger DE's get a spot over him. You have to expect that there'll be 1 or 2 more surprises in the final cuts.

Posted by: kost52 | August 27, 2007 10:00 PM | Report abuse

littery dealio, shoot me a mailio at nateinthepdx at gmail dot com. Happy to discuss my happy escape from NoVA to PDX.

Posted by: Nate in the PDX | August 27, 2007 10:00 PM | Report abuse

Kenard Lang. 6 sacks last year so almost as much as the entire D. Cut Wynn.

Defense Stats
YEAR TEAM G TOT SOLO AST PD SACK FF REC INT YDS TD
1997 WAS 12 35 26 9 2 1.5 0 0 0 0 0
1998 WAS 16 54 48 6 8 7.0 2 0 0 0 0
1999 WAS 16 37 34 3 6 6.0 3 0 0 0 0
2000 WAS 16 16 16 0 5 3.0 1 0 0 0 0
2001 WAS 16 68 54 14 4 4.0 3 0 1 14 0
2002 CLE 15 46 33 13 4 5.5 2 0 1 71 0
2003 CLE 15 60 46 14 2 8.0 1 0 1 0 0
2004 CLE 16 62 50 12 4 7.0 2 0 0 0 0
2005 CLE 16 41 28 13 2 2.0 0 0 0 0 0
2006 DEN 16 36 29 7 1 6.0 1 0 0 0 0

Posted by: Anonymous | August 27, 2007 10:01 PM | Report abuse

Why did the Skins let Kennard go, anyway? Was that a Marty deal? He ran off some good Redskins.

Posted by: talent evaluator | August 27, 2007 10:04 PM | Report abuse

Littery, you're a New Yorker aren't you? Ever been here?

http://www.news.com.au/story/0,23599,22268123-2,00.html

This is our future Prime Minister!

Posted by: kost52 | August 27, 2007 10:04 PM | Report abuse

"... Too lazy to pull up stats. ..."

Posted by: Nate in the PDX | August 27, 2007 09:55 PM

and Kenard Lang is too lazy to get to the passer. no, that's too harsh. He's just getting up there in age/injury history. The "new NFL" requires DT/DEs that either taller for his weight or faster for his height.

Did anyone notice that the Rams are going to play Carriker (the former heart throb of some bloggers) at nose tackle?

Posted by: dcsween | August 27, 2007 10:05 PM | Report abuse

kost, naah no such luck. i love NYC. just like everyone else. but i'm from NOVA(northern virginia). and sick of this place.

nate, thanks! sent you an e-mail.

Posted by: littery | August 27, 2007 10:14 PM | Report abuse

ohh and i've never been to Scores. but it's all and everything it's cracked up to be. i've heard really naaaice things about the place...

Posted by: littery | August 27, 2007 10:16 PM | Report abuse

Come to think of it, I have no idea now why I thought you were from NYC. I remember looking at your pics from TC.

I must've gotten you mixed up with CL! Sorry! hahaha

Posted by: kost52 | August 27, 2007 10:21 PM | Report abuse

ohh and that's not me with that kid...they just happened to be kite skiing...

Posted by: littery | August 27, 2007 10:23 PM | Report abuse

oh no! me ill-littery......talk about your savant tag-team!

Posted by: Chris Larry | August 27, 2007 10:24 PM | Report abuse

Redcoat -- Wingo!

[Man, the nerve of those idiots at work interrupting my blogging!]

Posted by: cload and daggar | August 27, 2007 10:24 PM | Report abuse

Didn't Periculum have Green in his final 53? That was the only name that raised an eyebrow.

And Lance Briggs tears up a Lamborghini! Poor schlub...

Posted by: cload and daggar | August 27, 2007 10:30 PM | Report abuse

Hey is Mike Wise on WaPo TV? Is he the guy with the fashionable glasses? Kinda looks like him.

nonsequitor - they are burying the bodies deep in the heart of Texas.

Posted by: sfskin | August 27, 2007 10:35 PM | Report abuse

wow am i glad we passed on briggs....

Posted by: Chris Larry | August 27, 2007 10:35 PM | Report abuse

btw, the best show on tv: Hannah Montana!

alright...i'm out and probly won't be in tomorrow or thursday. i'll see you guys on friday. i want play by play!!!!!!!!! gonna miss the game.

nate, hope to hear from you soon brother...sorry BAMF!

speaking of sfskin, i'm gonna do a touch and go with your city...hopefully i bring good weather again...

cindy, i'll pray for your friend. for some reason though (and i know nothing about cancer...lost a good friend to leukemia but that's the extent of it) cancer in bones and blood sounds more serious than other cancers. hope all goes well.

i know i coulda split that up a little bit. but dang! yo, i'm back on east coast time and way past my bedtime!

Posted by: littery | August 27, 2007 10:36 PM | Report abuse

Here are my top 15 plays of the last 25 seasons 72-2007 that came to mind rather quickly.
I am sure some of you will jog my memory forcing me to amend my list.

1. John Riggins 4th and 1 in SB XVII

2. Ken Houston stops Walt Garrison at the one!

3. Eddie Brown punt return TD on Monday Night vs. the Cardinals in a rain-soaked RFK

4. Joe Theismann knocking down pass DEEP in Skins territory in SB XVII


5. Darrell Green's punt return @ Chicago as Skins win in playoffs on way to SB XXII victory

6. Goaline Stand of Skins Defense in last seconds to defeat Vikings in 87 Championship Game.

7. Redskin D stops Tony Dorsett on 4th and 1 @ Dallas in 83 going on to blow out the cowgirls 31-10

8. Joe Washington screen pass for how many yards vs. Raiders at RFK in 83

9. Joe Theismann block on a busted play to lead Joe Washington into endzone vs Giants at RFK I am forgetting, was that the 82 or 83 season?

10. Gary Clark catch @ Pittsburgh as Skins were defeating the Steelers in 91.

11. Darrell Green running down Tony Dorsett in opening game of 83

12. Darrell Green running down Eric Dickerson in 86 playoff?

13. Mike Bass hit on Calvin Hill at RFK in maybe 73?

14. John Riggins long TD run @ Dallas in 79

15. Doug Williams 80 yard pass to Ricky Sanders to start the 35 point Tsunami in SB XXII.


Posted by: Redskin Ray | August 27, 2007 10:39 PM | Report abuse

I'm still puzzling about the package with Phillip Daniels at DT. Btwn Daniels, Wynn, Big Joe ... a body has to worry about what happens next Sunday.

In a bar conversation tonight, someone said that Big Tobacco's best argument is that they are actually SAVING the U.S. money on health care costs (by killing people early), but that that is just not an argument you can make.

These two points are not unrelated, and neither is the movie Logan's Run.

Posted by: dcsween | August 27, 2007 10:42 PM | Report abuse

Redskin Ray -

Admittedly, I haven't really been able to see many games before the last, say, 5 years, but the Brunell to Moss Comeback vs the Cowboys not good enough to make your list?

Posted by: kost52 | August 27, 2007 10:47 PM | Report abuse

So with all the concern about the old vent'ran DTs, are the kid tackles ready to step up, sween? Are Goldstone and Muntgummry ready to carry much more of the load?

I love Salave'a, but maybe it's time. It does feel like it's time for Wynn to step back and get his coaching career started.

Posted by: Nate in the PDX | August 27, 2007 10:51 PM | Report abuse

dcsween - I haven't had a decent read through it, but those boys at Post Game Heroes seem to have had a pretty thorough look at our D against the Ravens, maybe your Daniels answers can be found there.

http://www.postgameheroes.com/?p=332

Posted by: kost52 | August 27, 2007 10:51 PM | Report abuse

post game heroes have no credability.....

Posted by: Chris Larry | August 27, 2007 10:55 PM | Report abuse

I have a t-shirt idea which is easy for me cause I just have the idea and then other people actually do the design (right Bucktown?)

SeanTay and L2 not sure how they should be posed and the tagline "Lust for Mayhem"

Posted by: sfskin | August 27, 2007 10:56 PM | Report abuse

Wheels of time keep turning, Nate. Someday (not this season, not next), even Cornelius will become "older". Its a matter of being a great (and going out on your own terms, like Tiki, or with a push, like Trotter) or being a lunchbucket journeyman who's paid the mortgage and thinks about sustaining the "rainy day money" for university (and the orthodonture, you can't forget about the orthodonture). Whether its coaching (which means uprooting the family to work up through college programs) or a car lot (Jacoby?) or an airport bar and grill (Charles Mann?), at some point, a player's gotta start thinking about the life that comes next. I think that's when they become "older."

Posted by: dcsween | August 27, 2007 10:58 PM | Report abuse

Redskin Ray, that's a tremendous list. One theme is big plays in big games -- games that "mattered."

Man, I hope we see some plays like that this season. Something to stir our passion the same way that list of great plays does... some new great memories.

It all starts against the Fins...

Posted by: Nate in the PDX | August 27, 2007 10:58 PM | Report abuse

Whenever I see post game heroes "Jukebox Hero" by Foreigner pops into my head. Kinda annoying.

On the other hand driving the other day Foreigner's "Urgent" came on and it turns out I remember all the words and timing and breaks and everything - not a highlight moment for me.

The Europa exceptions I forget - for the whole season in addition to the practice squad?

Posted by: sfskin | August 27, 2007 10:59 PM | Report abuse

sfskin, I need to learn some graphic design, get some photoshop or something. But to be honest I have no skillz in that area. So many great shirt ideas have whizzed past without my being able to execute.

Bucktown is our guy for graphic design, so you could fire up the bucksignal and see if he responds.

Posted by: Nate in the PDX | August 27, 2007 11:02 PM | Report abuse

Running from his car was the smartest thing Briggs did. Better to be charged with leaving scene of an accident (where nobody got hurt of course) than stay and be charged with DUI/DWI and suffer the legal, MVA (license suspension/revocation) and league consequences that come with that.

Posted by: LH | August 27, 2007 11:06 PM | Report abuse

WOW. Lots to consume in the postgame hero site. The more interesting read is the take on the O-line. http://www.postgameheroes.com/?p=321 Yes, the site's credibility is nearly as invisible as Sean Taylor's MRI, but they do have some interesting takes on the play-by-play.

I may or may not have been lifting cold beverages to my face this evening (while the missus has taken the progeny to the in-laws for the week), so that bit about vets getting old might sound a little like Mayberry's Otis. Thus, I probably need to suspend my game this evening. Hasta.

Update: Best T-shirt idea is from one of Jasno's chats from last season when someone asked about what jersey number he would get ... "911" with Tyer across the top. Maybe LMGO on the front, but I dunno if Bucktown is doing double sided. Out.

Posted by: dcsween | August 27, 2007 11:10 PM | Report abuse

LH -- have to agree... but consequences be damned -- he busted up a $350,000 work of art.
I'm cringing, waiting for the details that he puked in the back seat after a zesty session with a transvestite.
But since no performance-enhancing drugs were found, it's all ok.

Posted by: cload and daggar | August 27, 2007 11:12 PM | Report abuse

Thanks Jason. :)

If the entire starting o-line isn't playing then Campbell should sit until the Dolphins game.

I bet he doesn't play.

- Ray

Posted by: Ray | August 27, 2007 11:16 PM | Report abuse

cload, that's why I said running away was the smartest thing he did. Everything up to that point was stupid. Hopefully, his auto insurance was current. When I first heard the story, I half expected to hear later that Briggs reported the car stolen sometime after the crash.

Posted by: LH | August 27, 2007 11:17 PM | Report abuse

Wheres my evening PAPER w/ new skins article before the sun comes up??

Just throwing it out there...to lamesville.

Posted by: DTC | August 27, 2007 11:18 PM | Report abuse

Stinkston and Butler both cut...

From Redskins DOT COM:

The Redskins have released six players from the roster, including cornerback Jerametrius Butler, the team announced on Monday.
The complete list of released players is as follows:


Jerametrius Butler, CB
Jamaal Green, DE
Kevin Jones, LB
Jerel Myers, WR
Todd Pinkston, WR
Bryant Shaw, DE

Posted by: DTC | August 27, 2007 11:24 PM | Report abuse

Whoops my news was so 5 hours ago.

Posted by: DTC | August 27, 2007 11:27 PM | Report abuse

I feel bad for Stinkston. We had just gotten to the point that everyone was clear that he was the OTHER Iggles receiver, NOT Fred-X.

sween as Otis? We'll always have a cell up here for you to sleep it off, buddy.

Posted by: Nate in the PDX | August 27, 2007 11:30 PM | Report abuse

I know absolutely nothing about sports therefore I make up stupid points and useless words to beef up my posts. I am a moron and I wouldn't doubt it if most of you other morons really thought this was me.

Posted by: dcsween | August 27, 2007 11:41 PM | Report abuse

If i'm pinkston i would be ticked at ever coming to camp

Posted by: Dante | August 27, 2007 11:47 PM | Report abuse

Pinkston -- it was like going to the fantasy baseball camp for old guys, except he didn't have to pay.

Posted by: cload and daggar | August 27, 2007 11:50 PM | Report abuse

why we feelin sorry for stinky?! He came to camp on a wing and a prayer....no illusions!

Posted by: Chris Larry | August 27, 2007 11:50 PM | Report abuse

I like bringing in bodies for positions of need but Pinkston? If he had made the team after the "arms incident" that would have been embarrassing.

Posted by: RBD202 | August 27, 2007 11:54 PM | Report abuse

More importantly, have the Redskinettes brought in bodies for positions of need?

Posted by: RBD202 | August 27, 2007 11:55 PM | Report abuse

Not really sorry for Pinkston -- as sween was commenting through his buzz, "getting old" happens to every player eventually, and there are a few ways we see careers come to a close.

I guess having one last cup of coffee in our camp is as good a way as any for Stinker to say goodbye.

Posted by: Nate in the PDX | August 27, 2007 11:55 PM | Report abuse

Top 5 mistakes of the Dan Snyder era

5) Firing Marty Schottenheimer
4) losing Champ Bailey and Antonio Pierce
3) Fantasy Football year with Deion Sanders, Mark Carrier, etc.
2) Keeping Vinny Cerrato
1) Not Hiring a GM/Keeping Mark Brunell a season to long

Top 5 things the Skins takes too much heat for

5) Ryan Clark- Enough Already...he ain't Ronnie Lott. Pearson "Praylow's" injury was underestimated
4) Gregg Williams 2006 defense- he had a bunch of injuries
3) No O-Line depth- The team was 4th in the league in rushing with Wade and Pucillo pitching in due to injuries last season.
2) "They don't take care of their own"- Name one team in the NFL that signs all of their players in their contract year.
1) The 700 page playbook- This is the year that you should judge this offense. You now have a quarterback that can throw the ball downfield.

Posted by: sicwidit | August 27, 2007 11:55 PM | Report abuse

Hiring Spurrier might be on my mistakes list, sic. Then keeping him for year two and letting Marvin Lewis go might be on my list as well.

Overhauling everything on the O side after the '05 playoff run looks like a pretty bad move, too.

Snyder's promising Norval that he'd keep him around if he made the playoffs kind of hurt us, I think, since everybody knew he was a lame duck and would have to go eventually...

Ah, it's lots of mistakes. A good year this year will make everything feel a lot better, won't it? Again, it all starts with the Fins...

Posted by: Nate in the PDX | August 28, 2007 12:02 AM | Report abuse

"Dante,

"You referred to "danny's henchmen." Now, I'm wondering whether that's the right term? Maybe they're really: minions, lackeys, toadies, psychophants, goffers, acolytes, possee, entourage, mates, droogs, apprentices, underlings, subordinates, staff, or (most likely) employees."

Posted by: talent evaluator | August 27, 2007 08:35 PM


===============

None of those are quite right. They're lickspittles.

Posted by: farstriker | August 28, 2007 12:05 AM | Report abuse

My the Danny mistake top 6: (not ranked just listed)

1. Firing Marty
2. Choosing Norv over Casserly
3. Hiring Spurrier
4. Fantasy/Dion year
5. Not hiring Marvin Lewis as HEAD coach
6. Hiring Jeff George....destroying BJ when we were rollin!

Posted by: Chris Larry | August 28, 2007 12:07 AM | Report abuse

"Didn't Periculum have Green in his final 53? That was the only name that raised an eyebrow."

Yep, guess Buzbee beat him out after all. Think they are into trying somehow to keep ALL OF THE NEW linebackers. The seem to have developed a great rapport with each other. Some reporter (Jason?) mentioned that during Gibb's question and answer. He stated that most of the turnovers and big plays on defense had occurred when THESE GUYS were in the game. And not the first team. Think the first team will be okay once Randall Godfrey starts playing with them.

Still the new guys have made a pretty impressive showing. Good news for the future given the ages of Fletcher, Washington, and Godfrey.

Posted by: periculum | August 28, 2007 12:25 AM | Report abuse

Danny Mistakes

1.Vinny Cerrato
2. Deion, Bruce, Carrier, George... free agent splash
3.Undercutting norv when he was finally getting us into the playoffs
4. canning casserly over norv ( i know i know ironic considering my first)
5. Having the sense to hire Lewis... but not as head coach i.e. choosing spurrier
6. Firing Schottenheimer
7. Last year's free agent splash

Posted by: Dante | August 28, 2007 12:28 AM | Report abuse

"???? What on God's green earth makes you think Randall Godfrey is going to start over Rocky this year? Maybe if he's hurt! Have you watched any of their games this pre-season... Godfrey was brought in to fill depth for them releasing Lemar Marshall... Godfrey can play strong and weak side... I think it's very obvious Rocky ain't goin nowhere!"

Williams said enough in his last presser to convince me that this guy is going to start every game .. and even if he doesn't start he will be in most of the "packages". He loves this guy the way Gibbs purportedly loves Brunell. He said that he used this guy as an example to younger players when he wasn't here. Now that he's here they can see for themselves. From what he said they are seeing and how.

I will be surprised NOT TO SEE HIM in the starting lineup on opening day. Particularly given that the subs / 2nd string young LBs / rookies have been making all the big plays / turnovers. He is a game changer. He will change that for the "older" first team.

Posted by: periculum | August 28, 2007 12:31 AM | Report abuse

Peri,

Thats straight crazy.....

Posted by: Chris Larry | August 28, 2007 12:33 AM | Report abuse

what's crazy? Rocky is starting... and from what i've seen i'm excited about our defense for years to come. We seem to have a good core of younger guys that are going to develop and be around the next several years as the veterans phase out. Just need to spend a draft pick or two on a de next year

Posted by: Dante | August 28, 2007 12:36 AM | Report abuse

Yeah I agree CL, Peri, Rocky has been one of the best, if not THE best player on our defense so far. The only way Godfrey starts, is if Marcus isn't right to start.

Posted by: kost52 | August 28, 2007 12:37 AM | Report abuse

Most exciting moments in Redskins history:

1.) ANYTIME C.A. "Sonny" Jurgenson was in the game at any age. On his worst day a 60% plus passer.

1966 stats: (before 16 (14) games and receivers with over 100 receps)
Receiving Rec Yds Avg TD
Charley Taylor 72 1119 15.5 12 (a running back)
Bobby Mitchell 58 905 15.6 9 (a running back)
Jerry Smith 54 686 12.7 6 (a small tight end)

Passing Comp Att Comp % Yds Y/Att TD Int Rating
S. Jurgensen 254 436 58.3 3209 7.36 28 19 84.5
Bobby Mitchell 1 1 100.0 21 21.00 0 0 118.8

2.) ANYTIME Darrel Green went back to return a punt. Most Especially in the playoffs! He always looked like he was going to score!!!!

3.) Mark Moseley kicking everything in sight through the goal posts. Even in the worst rain or snow storms. Even the long ones! Theismann was his holder. The ONLY pure KICKER to
ever win the NFL MVP award.

1982 season
FG Made FG Att FG % Pts
Mark Moseley 20 21 95.2 76

4) FIRST total annihilation and humiliation of the Cowgirls in a playoff game!!! How sweet it was! Led by Billy K, Larry Brown and Charley Taylor but mostly by an invincible defense.


Posted by: periculum | August 28, 2007 12:59 AM | Report abuse

"The only way Godfrey starts, is if Marcus isn't right to start."

If Godfrey looks as good as Williams claims then if he comes in for one or the other (Washington, McIntosh) they will quickly decide not to ever take him out.

Posted by: periculum | August 28, 2007 1:02 AM | Report abuse

You may be right, but I just don't see it Periculum.

If all LB's are healthy, I see McIntosh, Fletcher, and Washington as our starters. On passing downs it wouldn't surprise me to see Godfrey come in, Marcus move to DE, Daniels to DT and Golston come out to give us more options at rushing the QB. Other than that I see Godfrey as a LB for depth.

After Rocky saw minimal action last year, and we were so strong in keeping him during the offseason (Briggs trade), I can't see them making him suffer through another season on the bench. Unless of course he stinks it up big time, which looking at his pre-season form, doesn't look like happening.

Posted by: kost52 | August 28, 2007 1:11 AM | Report abuse

Redskins Ray - You forgot the hit that our D put on Danny White in the NFC Championship Game. Knocked him out!!

Posted by: protosnot | August 28, 2007 1:38 AM | Report abuse

Redskins Ray -
Great list though. I remember Eddie Brown's kickoff return. I was in 3rd or 4th grade and remember staying up late watching the game in my bedroom. My parents knew that I was up because they heard me jumping on my bed. Of course, Dad was in the living room hootin and hollerin too.
I also remember wearing a bandaid on my nose the year that Billy Kilmer broke his.

Posted by: protosnot | August 28, 2007 1:40 AM | Report abuse

The inside story on Priest Holmes.

http://www.kansascity.com/180/story/247688.html

"Never give up - never surrender."

Posted by: The Crickets | August 28, 2007 5:32 AM | Report abuse

I was at the game when Eddie Brown returned the kick.

My absolute greatest memory as a fan:

Selling "Hail to the Redskins" 45's outside the Goalpost in the snow
on Wisconsin Avenue while watching Ron McDole, Diron Talbert, and a host of other Skins get plastered. Made quite an impression on a 10 yr old kid!

Posted by: cosmofla | August 28, 2007 5:56 AM | Report abuse

Oh wow, you guys know I won't pass up on this one...

Top 5 Snyder mistakes

1. Firing Marty
1b. Vinny Cerato
3. Fantasy football 2006 and 2000
4. Misuse and discard of draft picks
5. Treatment of the fans (charging for practice, obstructed seats, etc)

Posted by: Ricky Bobby | August 28, 2007 6:58 AM | Report abuse

"POSTED 8:42 p.m. EDT; UPDATED 10:06 p.m. EDT, August 27, 2007

GABRIEL A SURPRISE CUT IN OAKLAND

The roster moves in advance of Tuesday's deadline for trimming the teams to 75 players included a few surprises.

Adam Schefter of NFL Network reports that the Raiders have cut veteran receiver Doug Gabriel.
"

Don't we still need a receiver? Gabriel seems worth a shot?

Posted by: 4th via Home Floor VIA pft | August 28, 2007 7:03 AM | Report abuse

Posted by: Rotoworld | August 28, 2007 7:16 AM | Report abuse

Thongs

Posted by: jm220 | August 28, 2007 7:56 AM | Report abuse

From cnn.com

According to Roll Call, the arresting officer alleged that Craig lingered outside a rest room stall where the officer was sitting, then entered the stall next door and blocked the door with his luggage.

According to the arrest report cited by Roll Call, Craig tapped his right foot, which the officer said he recognized "as a signal used by persons wishing to engage in lewd conduct."

The report alleges Craig then touched the officer's foot with his foot and the senator "proceeded to swipe his hand under the stall divider several times," according to Roll Call.

At that point, the officer said he put his police identification down by the floor so Craig could see it and informed the senator that he was under arrest, before any sexual contact took place.

Posted by: jm220 | August 28, 2007 8:02 AM | Report abuse

sfskin;

I had an okay idea with the negatvie image of taylor from other tshirts and do one of L2 the same way, take the left side of one witrh the right side of the other. Merge them into a SeaRon Taydry... and put some snappy line around them...

I really love that shot of Taylor with the nappy dreads all negative image and stuff...

And 4th, sad story, even more sad situation

Posted by: Zebra | August 28, 2007 8:03 AM | Report abuse

Know I'm late to the party but:

Guitar World's top 5 modern era QBs:

1. Randy Rhoads
2. Dimebag Darrell
3. Steve Vai
4. Kerry King
5. Greg Ginn

Posted by: Choo choo | August 28, 2007 8:07 AM | Report abuse

From yesterday? True.

I guess we need to remember that 'most' media, if not all are just in it for the ratings and big $$$

Posted by: 4th via Home Floor | August 28, 2007 8:22 AM | Report abuse

Yeah...from yesterday, people are so afraid of showing possible racial prejudice, it is getting in the way of true reporting/justice.

I dont know how it will ever get better, with both sides (and there in lies the problem, 'sides') so quick to A) be defensive against perceived racial prejudice, and B) accuse of racial prejudice.

I even heard something funny from a comedian who said that when a white person calls him african american, it is because they are thinking 'how can I not sound racist?' Instead of just calling someone black or in the reverse case, white.

I guess there is just so much negative connotation with such designations.

Oh well, we could talk for eons about the dynamic of race in this country, but this is a skins blog and we only havbe our lifetime to dedicate to that.

Posted by: Zebra | August 28, 2007 8:30 AM | Report abuse

"In 2006, a gay activist said he had spoken with men who had sexual encounters with Craig, including in the restrooms at Union Station. Craig's office told the Spokesman-Review of Spokane, Wash., that the allegations were "completely ridiculous."
"

Nasty. Guys can just go to the bathroom and pick up guys. Now that is an organized underworld....

Posted by: Anonymous | August 28, 2007 8:34 AM | Report abuse

You're right Zebra. We are too sensitive.

We gonna break the color line one day. We just have to set an example starting with ourselves. Then maybe it can rub off of people near us.....

Posted by: 4th via Home Floor | August 28, 2007 8:50 AM | Report abuse

8:34 was me..........

Posted by: 4th via Home Floor | August 28, 2007 8:51 AM | Report abuse

Anon;

Have you ever heard of a glory hole>?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Glory_hole_(sexual)

Posted by: Zebra | August 28, 2007 8:51 AM | Report abuse

Super flag on me for wiki-ing that for 4th and a co-worker coming to my cube, I minimized it but the tab was open on the start menu and it showed "Glory Hole- Sexual"

sum b@tch

Posted by: Zebra | August 28, 2007 8:54 AM | Report abuse

And finally (I promise):

Guitar World's Top 5 QBs through the leather-helmet era:

1. Robert Johnson
2. Fernando Sor
3. Django Reinhardt
4. Fernando Carulli
5-?. Countless drunken Spaniards playing flamenco lust tunes to senoritas in the parlor

Posted by: Choo choo | August 28, 2007 9:02 AM | Report abuse

Z LMGO!!

Posted by: jm220 | August 28, 2007 9:03 AM | Report abuse

He's back! Washington Times reporting "Rookie tight end Tyler Ecker, who was released on Thursday, was re-signed and put on the practice squad. He sustained a groin injury July 28 and had not practiced since."

Posted by: talent evaluator | August 28, 2007 9:14 AM | Report abuse

Posted by: Skinz | August 28, 2007 9:17 AM | Report abuse

Choo choo, don't forget Hawai'ian guitar players as a group. Largely forgotten now by the masses, but critical to the guitar's introduction to American popular music in the early 20th century!

Posted by: Nate in the PDX | August 28, 2007 9:21 AM | Report abuse

We need a "count and the amount" to see where this bloggie blog stands...

As Skinz noted, we're getting ever close to kickoff of the first TNF game, Saints at Colts, and it's twelve days to our kickoff with the Fins.

We've got some work to do.

HAIL

Posted by: Nate in the PDX | August 28, 2007 9:25 AM | Report abuse

Some new posts would help us on our quest....

When the new beat person is named I think they should do blog posts as well. Blogs are best when their are multiple authors. Than we would have three leads: Janso, Cyn Cindy and NP...

Posted by: Chris Larry | August 28, 2007 9:28 AM | Report abuse

Lol Zebra

Posted by: SCSkinsFan | August 28, 2007 9:29 AM | Report abuse

My morning quick hits:

- Listening to Sirius NFL Radio on my way to work I heard the Jax Jags beat guy, wow we thought Janso was a debbie downer. This dude spread bullets like a gattling gun in prohibition. No one was spared: Del Rio, the fans, Byron, recievers, their draft picks. After the call the hosts (Bob Popa and Randy Cross) were laughing their guts out about how negative he was and said they were depressed after listening to him. And Jax is actually pretty decent!

- The Cowboys have some big time injury issues. Did you cats know Terrence Newman has that Planter Facia foot deal....if misses time or is hobbled thats huge. Also Gramatica is now hurt. Apparently also that Spears dude is not ajusting to LB as fast as they hope. I think Dallas is WAY overrated. They get hand jobs from press just due to the Star....gag me

- Could ESPN be lamer? They beat a story to death like it was a soft pit bull at bad newz kennells.....my gawd SHUT UP!!!!!!!

Posted by: Chris Larry | August 28, 2007 9:34 AM | Report abuse

He is about 55, close to retirement. High up in another division... hmm, anyone looking for a Geographer?

Posted by: Zebra | August 28, 2007 9:37 AM | Report abuse

"Super flag on me for wiki-ing that for 4th and a co-worker coming to my cube, I minimized it but the tab was open on the start menu and it showed "Glory Hole- Sexual"

sum b@tch

Posted by: Zebra | August 28, 2007 08:54 AM"

Zebra,

That is hillarious.... LMGO!

Posted by: E in VB | August 28, 2007 9:37 AM | Report abuse

Chris LarrY said:

"I think Dallas is WAY overrated. They get hand jobs from press just due to the Star....gag me"

I couldn't agree more. Hand jobs for the star, utter genius. That is exactly how I feel but didn't know how to express it. Sincere thanks, CL

Posted by: bangkokben | August 28, 2007 9:41 AM | Report abuse

Yeah, this just isnt my day. Had a road rage incident with a fellow co-worker on the way in, i think.

I lost my rearview mirror, so I look in my side mirror and this guy is on my @ss straddling the rumble strip as we ride down the fast lane.

So I did a break check, hard, and he flew way back, then he roared up again and was mouthing off. So I was pointing at him and cursing through my side mirror, yes, I know Im hard.

Then he just followed me shaking his head... I realized he looked like a contracter here, and we took different exits.

I asked a co-worker and the vehicle fits the description and he said that guy pulled into the parking garage two minutes before I did.

I might need to take a blog break b4 I end up jobless.

Posted by: Zebra | August 28, 2007 9:41 AM | Report abuse

Good article on griff... thanks for the link... just reaffirms what all of us are keeping our fingers crossed for... a top five redskins d and the resulting trip to the playoffs

Posted by: Dante | August 28, 2007 9:42 AM | Report abuse

Zebra,

Maybe you need a driving break....go buy the dude a coffee admit you were just so concerned about littery's mental health that you lost it....

Posted by: Chris Larry | August 28, 2007 9:44 AM | Report abuse

Z you got me in tears. LMGO!

Posted by: jm220 | August 28, 2007 9:45 AM | Report abuse

You know we hear all these articles about how internet surfing costs employers 10 billion a year... facebook surfing alone is now costing employers 1 billion a year in lost productivity. I wonder how much RI is costing employers 5 mil?

Posted by: Dante | August 28, 2007 9:46 AM | Report abuse

cL;

Funny.

Posted by: Zebra | August 28, 2007 9:47 AM | Report abuse

Z, you've gone from glory holes to road rage... rough morning!

Be strong, dude. Bask in the rediscovered joy of this happy blog. Serenity now... serenity now...

Posted by: Nate in the PDX | August 28, 2007 9:52 AM | Report abuse

I personally believe the U.S. Americans do not support Ron Mexico because some people out there in our nation don't have the Herpes and I believe that our education like such as in South Carolina and the Virginia everywhere like such as and I believe they should our the Herpes over here in the U.S. should help the U.S. or should help South Carolina or should help the Virginia and Asian counties so we will be able to build up our Ron Mexico for us.

Posted by: Ron Mexico | August 28, 2007 9:52 AM | Report abuse

I don't disagree with fake dcsween (11:41pm), but I'd never call RI peeps morons.

Zebra and cL, NICE on the fan version of "lust for mayhem!"

Posted by: dcsween | August 28, 2007 9:58 AM | Report abuse

I wonder how much RI is costing employers 5 mil?

Posted by: Dante | August 28, 2007 09:46 AM


Dante,

Have you read what goes up on RI? First of all, most of the posters don't really have jobs. And half the ones who claim to have jobs only have memories of having had a job once. The rest? The quality of their work is so low that office productivity actually rises while they're blogging. I'm not saying which group I'm in.

So, RI actually is not a cost to the economy but a benefit, as we say in econospeak. The more we blog, the faster the GNP increases. If there's a recession, it can only be because of too few bloggers on RI.

Posted by: talent evaluator | August 28, 2007 9:59 AM | Report abuse

Ron, Ron, ROn...

Did you see that she was on defending herself and answered the question correctly on some morning show?

And of course near and dear to my heart b/c that question was about the lack of schooling for Geography.

Geographers used to be the most important profession to a king, general and explorer... I guess I am 5 centuries too late in my choice of profession

Posted by: Zebra | August 28, 2007 10:02 AM | Report abuse

Zebra,

That's great. Reminds me of the time I was heading to work and got behind a car because my exit was coming up in a mile. Well, the car was going way too slow for my liking, so I got back over, sped up, and then cut back in front of her. It was one of my co-workers.

I eventually exited, but ended up sliding off the exit and into a ditch due to black ice. I totaled my car.

The first car creeping down the exit to greet me... the same co-worker I just cut off. It was terrible.

Posted by: Ricky Bobby | August 28, 2007 10:02 AM | Report abuse

Great auto-memory from of all people Ricky Bobby! If your not first your last...

By the way RB...nice diversity of posts lately....I am hopin for so positive Fed Ex vibes for you this season!

Posted by: Chris Larry | August 28, 2007 10:05 AM | Report abuse

Wow, thanks for making me feel better RB

Posted by: Zebra | August 28, 2007 10:06 AM | Report abuse

Zebra - I wish I never clicked on that link....

I'm glad I wasn't living in the 70s. I was just conceived back then...

Posted by: 4th Floor | August 28, 2007 10:08 AM | Report abuse

The bad news is that yesterday the Browns cut former Skins' undrafted FA TE, Buck Ortega.

The good news is that his name earned him a call from a film production start up, Fiesta Video Ltd.

Posted by: dcsween | August 28, 2007 10:08 AM | Report abuse

Ricky Bobby--I cringe just reading that story.

Posted by: farstriker | August 28, 2007 10:09 AM | Report abuse

From Adam Schefter:

The Vikings hardly were the only team pursuing Holcomb. The Atlanta Falcons and Seattle Seahawks also made inquiries, but neither was willing to surrender as much as Minnesota.

NEXT...
Now one quarterback has been dealt, and at least one other could follow.

Atlanta still is in the market for a quarterback. Now that Holcomb is out, the Falcons are expected to look to Raiders quarterbacks Josh McCown and Andrew Walter.

The Raiders would be more apt to deal one of their quarterbacks if they could sign No. 1 overall pick JaMarcus Russell. But those negotiations are moving, at best, slowly.

Once Russell and the Raiders make a deal, Oakland could make another for a quarterback. Until then, Atlanta will continue monitoring other teams. A logical fit, Washington's Mark Brunell, could be on the Falcons radar, but to date, they have had no conversations with the Redskins.

And the other interesting scenario is the Tampa Bay Buccanneers, who have four viable quarterbacks on their roster -- Jeff Garcia, Luke McCown, Bruce Gradkowski and Chris Simms. If any one of those backups is cut loose, it would be no surprise if Atlanta claimed him.

The only way for Tampa to assure itself that none of its quarterbacks wind up in Atlanta is to hold on to each of them. It very well might.

Blog, I apologize in advance for stoking periculums fantasy of a three-way with the Falcons and Chiefs in bringing Priest Holmes in for our 5th WR.

Posted by: bangkokben | August 28, 2007 10:10 AM | Report abuse

Zeebs, I tip my hat in your profession's general direction, as a map lover. I even have a tattoo of a map. Big fan, big fan.

But the road rage thing is puzzling... I woulda guessed everybody at the geography shop would be bookish, nerdy types with pipes and elbow patches and such. And here you've got this angry fellow chasing you down the toll road or whatever.

At least it didn't come to fisticuffs, and it's probably still a little early in the year for black ice. Thank goodness.

Posted by: Nate in the PDX | August 28, 2007 10:11 AM | Report abuse

Campbell to Play
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Site Staff
WarpathInsiders.com Aug 27, 2007

Redskins quarterback Jason Campbell said he'll play against Jacksonville in the preseason finale on Thursday, less than two weeks after it appeared he had suffered a devastating injury vs. Pittsburgh.

Campbell said his bruised left knee remains a little sore and swollen, but he anticipates it being much better by Thursday. He will practice Tuesday. Campbell said doctors have told him he's not "at any risk" by playing.

"One thing a quarterback can't do," Campbell said, "is have too much time away from it because you lose your rhythm and your edge. It's important not to miss too much time because of all the things you work so hard on over the summer, you don't want to lose it right before we start the season."


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Story URL: http://redskins.scout.com/2/672719.html

Copyright © 2007 Scout.com and WarpathInsiders.com

Short and to the point. I love these qoutes better than today's WaPo....

Posted by: 4th Floor | August 28, 2007 10:13 AM | Report abuse

Tyler Ecker was placed on IR after clearing waivers.

Posted by: Redskins.com | August 28, 2007 10:13 AM | Report abuse

I only skimmed the periculum post at 7:37, but something struck me funny: the notion of the coaches spending quality time with the four remaining dudes who are going to be cut today.

What would comprise that quality time? An ice cream run? Doing some shots at Kirkpatrick's? One last trip to Wegman's for cookies?

Posted by: Nate in the PDX | August 28, 2007 10:14 AM | Report abuse

4th, I echo those sentiments. Ignorance was bliss. On the positive side, I learned something new.

Posted by: bangkokben | August 28, 2007 10:15 AM | Report abuse

Nate,

I miss Wegman's.

Posted by: bangkokben | August 28, 2007 10:18 AM | Report abuse

" ... Blog, I apologize in advance for stoking periculums fantasy of a three-way with the Falcons and Chiefs in bringing Priest Holmes in for our 5th WR."

Posted by: bangkokben | August 28, 2007 10:10 AM

I repeat, I would never call anyone a moron, but I agree that this scenario creates images of multiple glory holes.

Posted by: dcsween | August 28, 2007 10:18 AM | Report abuse

Do you guys even know who ron mexico is?!?


...gosh, try to do a little socio/poli humor on this blog... lmfao.

Posted by: Michael Vick | August 28, 2007 10:22 AM | Report abuse

Nate;

this guy isnt is the mapping division of my office. he is in the IT division.

but I defy that sterotype as well.

I am a geek, i guess. I like star trek, wars and anything to do with astronomy. Geography, maps, computers, gaming... but also love sports, was a jock in highschool... so I dont know what category i fit into.

I dont subscribe to stereotypes, breaking all the boundaries.

Posted by: Zebra | August 28, 2007 10:23 AM | Report abuse

Keeping tabs a b*tch
Spammers working overtime
Driving up the count

Posted by: MV Dame | August 28, 2007 10:24 AM | Report abuse

80,864

Posted by: MV Dame | August 28, 2007 10:25 AM | Report abuse

Yes, we on this blog know who Ron Mexico is. Mostly, we ignore him.

Michael Vick is SOOO yesterday.

Posted by: Anonymous | August 28, 2007 10:28 AM | Report abuse

All righty, so eight thousand comments in twelve days, to reach the Boren Penultimatum? Hmm... that's a lot of comments. Let's get after it, folks.

Posted by: Nate in the PDX | August 28, 2007 10:29 AM | Report abuse

Post-to-post dancing
To any kind of numbers
I'm Al Gore Rhythmic

Posted by: MV Dame | August 28, 2007 10:29 AM | Report abuse

Do I hear ROLL CALL!

Posted by: Chris Larry | August 28, 2007 10:32 AM | Report abuse

rhy - thm - ic

Posted by: Anonymous | August 28, 2007 10:32 AM | Report abuse

Crud, cL, I can't even remember the last time I posted one of those roll calls... one of our last milestones... will have to dig back into the archives and figure it out.

Posted by: Nate in the PDX | August 28, 2007 10:34 AM | Report abuse

Who Knew?
Five times since 2000, at least two teams have gone from worst to first, giving hope this year to the Miami Dolphins, Cleveland Browns, Houston Texans, Oakland Raiders, Washington Redskins, Detroit Lions, Tampa Bay Buccaneers and Arizona Cardinals. -- NFL Network

Posted by: 4th Floor | August 28, 2007 10:34 AM | Report abuse

Is that like ath-a-lete?

Posted by: MV Dame | August 28, 2007 10:35 AM | Report abuse

MV Dame,

Do you go back and check all the old posts every time to see if anyone has added to them? Or do you not go back at all or do you just go back for say the last week etc...

Posted by: Dante | August 28, 2007 10:35 AM | Report abuse

Does anyone know what happened to Springs' achilles tendon and when it happened?

Posted by: Freak Frog | August 28, 2007 10:35 AM | Report abuse

Keeping his seat warm
MV takes up haiku slack
For long-post H-Man

Posted by: MV Dame | August 28, 2007 10:36 AM | Report abuse

Newman could miss Cowboys opener?
Terence Newman has not missed a regular-season game in his four-year career. He is not sure he will be able to extend his consecutive games played streak to 65 when the Cowboys open the season on Sept. 9 against the New York Giants. Newman has a small tear of his right plantar fascia, a band of tissue that starts at your heel and runs along the bottom of your foot. The injury will keep him out of Thursday's preseason finale at Minnesota, and the Cowboys aren't sure when their top cornerback will return to practice. -- The Dallas Morning News

Posted by: 4th Floor | August 28, 2007 10:36 AM | Report abuse

REDSKIN RELEASE TODD PINKSTON OR TODD COLLINS!!!!!

Posted by: Anonymous | August 28, 2007 10:36 AM | Report abuse

No, that would be ath-lete.

Posted by: Anonymous | August 28, 2007 10:37 AM | Report abuse

Roll call at 10:40 in the morning? Isn't that a little desperate?

Posted by: Dante | August 28, 2007 10:38 AM | Report abuse

Pinkston was released yesterday. Collins won't be going anywhere.

Posted by: Anonymous | August 28, 2007 10:39 AM | Report abuse

Noticed that the Skins cut Todd Pinkston. Remember when they signed him a few weeks back and JLac and some of you guys started jumping off of buildings because you thought it was a panic move? I was just wondering if you feel really stupid now, or if you have already moved on to the next "sky is falling" scenario because they signed Randall Godfrey? "My gosh, they signed Godfrey! They are going to cut Rocky McIntosh and London Fletcher!" Idiots!

Posted by: Will | August 28, 2007 10:40 AM | Report abuse

Open threads fair game
New posts still added daily
MV checks them all

Posted by: MV Dame | August 28, 2007 10:40 AM | Report abuse

Dante, I've been meaning to ask, are you the commenter who was known once upon a time as Dante in PHX? I vaguely remember such a handle being used up here, which was an inspiration for my own moniker.

Posted by: Nate in the PDX | August 28, 2007 10:41 AM | Report abuse

Then that would be rhyth-mic...

Posted by: MV Dame | August 28, 2007 10:43 AM | Report abuse

I agree Will....

Desperate is my favorite emotion....

4th Floor: I talked about Newman earlier as well....to me that injury is HUGE...one game minimum and even if he plays how can a cornerback be good with a bad foot....sweet!

Posted by: Chris Larry | August 28, 2007 10:44 AM | Report abuse

I dunno, I kinda thought my 'speech' yesterday was eerily reminiscent of MTSC's debacle...

...and I rehearsed!

Posted by: Mikey | August 28, 2007 10:44 AM | Report abuse

Nate I've always posted as Dante... nor do i recall ever seeing a dante in phx... but i also didn't start blogging till after the last season was over. unfortunately didn't discover the blog till then being up in chicago for school

Posted by: Dante | August 28, 2007 10:44 AM | Report abuse

I hope this Springs thing isn't a big deal.

Posted by: jm220 | August 28, 2007 10:44 AM | Report abuse

No, it's time for Cowboys' fans to start jumping off of buildings now, since Terence Newman was diagnosed with Planters Peanuts.

Posted by: Anonymous | August 28, 2007 10:45 AM | Report abuse

MV Dame has all the stats on this, but I think it took us four months (August to early November) to compile our first 10,000 comments up here. What a milestone that was!

To think that we went from 65K in early July to 75k in mid-August, under six weeks!

Logging 8,000 posts in the next twelve days is a real feat, a monumental task of silliness, even for us. But we can do it.

Posted by: Nate in the PDX | August 28, 2007 10:46 AM | Report abuse

Gee, do you think there is a template somewhere for the "Brunell Returns to Jacksonville" story....

Breaking it out even for preseason....lame...

Redskins.com is the worst.....except the skins crocs adds...

Posted by: Chris Larry | August 28, 2007 10:46 AM | Report abuse

Superstar MV
Celebrity gone to head
Now speaks third-person

Posted by: MV Dame | August 28, 2007 10:47 AM | Report abuse

Freak Frog, jm220, are you guys talking about something new with Springs, or the same old lingering injury which has been keeping him on the shelf (precautionarily)?

Posted by: Nate in the PDX | August 28, 2007 10:47 AM | Report abuse

athlete is a 2-syllable word.

rhythm is a 2-syllable word.

rhythmic is a 3-syllable word.

Posted by: Anonymous | August 28, 2007 10:47 AM | Report abuse

And where is Lisa? We're talking Springs and a little bit of Brunell and she's nowhere to be found! Doggone it!

Posted by: Nate in the PDX | August 28, 2007 10:48 AM | Report abuse

Nate: I think Lisa followed your lead and is taking Blog Break.......

Posted by: Chris Larry | August 28, 2007 10:50 AM | Report abuse

My favorite tune is "Get on the Good Foot".

Posted by: Terence Newman | August 28, 2007 10:50 AM | Report abuse

rhyth·mic /ˈrɪðmɪk/ Pronunciation Key - Show Spelled Pronunciation[rith-mik]

Posted by: MV Dame | August 28, 2007 10:50 AM | Report abuse

Heaven forbid lisa might be working

Posted by: Dante | August 28, 2007 10:51 AM | Report abuse

Yo MV,

Is it possible to get a read out of how many comments people have made......like those who have commented at least 100 times...

That would be fun to see

Posted by: Chris Larry | August 28, 2007 10:52 AM | Report abuse

Are you talking about the old Springs injury or a new one?

I can't find anything. Don't scare us with "new" injuries if not true.

I just lost feeling in my legs then woke up on the floor under my desk in fetal position.

Posted by: Skinz | August 28, 2007 10:54 AM | Report abuse

True, Dante, too true. Sad. "Work." Huh.

Posted by: Nate in the PDX | August 28, 2007 10:54 AM | Report abuse

Maybe we can find some info on Springs over at postgame heroes...

Posted by: Nate in the PDX | August 28, 2007 10:55 AM | Report abuse

Your request, cL
Would take me a year at least
There's no way in hell

Posted by: MV Dame | August 28, 2007 10:55 AM | Report abuse

Will, I thought the idea behind Godfrey was to be able to spell Washington for as long as he needs to recover from the elbow thing.

jm220, I gotta believe the Springs' "injury" was a convenient explanation to keep from taking any chances with him on the wet turf (before they knew what the actual condition of the turf was).

Posted by: dcsween | August 28, 2007 10:57 AM | Report abuse

MV...figured I would ask....

Posted by: Chris Larry | August 28, 2007 10:58 AM | Report abuse

Sween - As RI GM, you forgot that Washingotn will be pass rushing from the line on 3rd downs this year? He'll def need a breather from time or they may want to use more 4 back sets........

Posted by: 4th Floor | August 28, 2007 11:01 AM | Report abuse

Sween,

I can't remember where but i read that they kept him out of that game because he was a proben veteran who didn't need the work.

That's what made me worry that someone had read something else.

Posted by: Skinz | August 28, 2007 11:02 AM | Report abuse

Nate,

From Jason's article in today's Post:

" On defense, matters are much more settled, though the Redskins will be looking to blend newly signed linebacker Randall Godfrey into the lineup, and could give some reps to cornerback Shawn Springs (Achilles' tendon)."

I don't remember previously hearing that Springs had a problem with his achilles tendon. Maybe it's an old injury? I don't know. I usually just lurk here and thought someone here might know more about this.

Posted by: Freak Frog | August 28, 2007 11:03 AM | Report abuse

Isn't Springs 'injury' a preventative thing with his achilles. That's sorta new.

Posted by: bangkokben | August 28, 2007 11:03 AM | Report abuse

¿Dónde está AMTTS?

He should be here to post 81K. We're about 90 away...

Posted by: MV Dame | August 28, 2007 11:04 AM | Report abuse

Not only am I Al Gore Rhythmic, anonymous, but I can rhyme like a sonuvab*tch, too!

Posted by: MV Dame | August 28, 2007 11:06 AM | Report abuse

If Sean does have an achilles, you certainly hate it for Sean, because he fights his guts out, and he's super smart. You also hate it for the fans and for Dan, who gives us whatever we ask for.

Posted by: JG | August 28, 2007 11:07 AM | Report abuse

Hmmm dunno, as of right now both Kendall and Springs are listed as starters for tomorrow night.

Posted by: Skinz | August 28, 2007 11:11 AM | Report abuse

"...he was a proben veteran who didn't need the work."

Posted by: Skinz | August 28, 2007 11:02 AM

Isn't Proben one of those phony-ceuticals that they advertise in the breaks between plays?

Posted by: Redcoat | August 28, 2007 11:12 AM | Report abuse

And then thanks to the intergoogles I find that life in this case mirrors typo...

http://www.drugs.com/cons/proben-c.html

Posted by: Redcoat | August 28, 2007 11:13 AM | Report abuse

Anyone else think its better than 50-50 we see Portis for a series on Thursday? He's succeeded in avoiding any hits in preseason until now (which was really smart in my opinion) and now I think he will wisely choose to try to get through some of that "first game" soreness before the regular season starts. My bet is he and Betts play 1 series each and Campbell plays two.

Posted by: Mike H. | August 28, 2007 11:15 AM | Report abuse

I wonder what it's like to be Joe Gibbs rhythmic? Probably like Sonic the Hedgehog.

Al Gore = stiff as a brick

Posted by: Anonymous | August 28, 2007 11:16 AM | Report abuse

Redcoat, never heard of that drug. Makes me wonder about the television stations your watching and what demographic they're shooting for. Do you live in Del Boca Vista Phase 3?

Posted by: dcsween | August 28, 2007 11:16 AM | Report abuse

Along with jm220's "read my lips: no new injuries" declaration, it's top priority for Thursday that we do nothing to slow the recovery of or exacerbate the injuries to Soup, Marcus, Shawn, Clinton, Samuels, etc. Even at the expense of their missing a few series of work in a 'game'. I think.

Posted by: Nate in the PDX | August 28, 2007 11:18 AM | Report abuse

Can Shawn be injured?
Not possible, as Lisa's
Hope Springs eternal

Posted by: Redcoat as MV Dame as HaikuMan | August 28, 2007 11:19 AM | Report abuse

JG,

Hilarious.

I almost pooped myself yesterday when he was talking about the cuts. He says the same stuff year after year.

Posted by: Ricky Bobby | August 28, 2007 11:19 AM | Report abuse

If the idea is just to get Portis some action so he can get a jump start on the soreness, maybe they could just put him in to be a blocking back ... or maybe blocking on special teams. I love watching Portis block LBs ... just flattens guys ... he seems like the one guy on offense with the lust for mayhem.

Posted by: dcsween | August 28, 2007 11:20 AM | Report abuse

So if it's an arthritis drug and we're talking about Shawn Springs, who is sort of old, I think this all makes sense:

http://www.medicinenet.com/probenecid/article.htm

Posted by: Nate in the PDX | August 28, 2007 11:21 AM | Report abuse

Serenity NOW!

Posted by: Dik | August 28, 2007 11:22 AM | Report abuse

What if the Skins make it to the SuperBowl next year under Gibbs...Wouldn't it be good if Gibbs did a press conference and said..."Kiss my Azz"?

Posted by: sicwidit | August 28, 2007 11:23 AM | Report abuse

With the defensive line that Jacksonville has, Campbell and Portis should not play. Let Brunell play the entire game (Crash Test Dummy, football-style). Maybe with his past association with the Jags, they will cut him some slack.

Posted by: Freak Frog | August 28, 2007 11:23 AM | Report abuse

4th, Madden said something the other night about Trotter getting cut. Said that Trotter was a rushing down specialist -- the kind of guy that gets pulled on third down when they bring in the passing down specialist. Then he said that, with offenses changing, every down is a passing down. Not sure what to make of that, but I stashed that thought away because it made me say "hmm".

Posted by: dcsween | August 28, 2007 11:23 AM | Report abuse

Well now, sween, I would respectfully submit that our Mr. Sellers also has an unmistakeable lust for mayhem, and he plays on the offense.

Posted by: Nate in the PDX | August 28, 2007 11:24 AM | Report abuse

I just picked up on Skinz' typo and tried to make a rather lame word-play. Then I thought "well maybe there really IS a drug called Proben" and lo and behold, there was.

Sorry guys, but it made for a few sad posts....

I'll get me coat.

Posted by: Redcoat | August 28, 2007 11:24 AM | Report abuse

"Myke Selluhs" in Sonny voice...

Posted by: Nate in the PDX | August 28, 2007 11:26 AM | Report abuse

Do you think that 'Walter' yesterday was a regular posting under a 'nom de blog' or a newbie?

I sorta liked having someone making obscure references to quotations from the Big Lebowski.

Posted by: Redcoat | August 28, 2007 11:27 AM | Report abuse

Redskins Insider - a Tiny Comedy with Huge Balls

Posted by: Anonymous | August 28, 2007 11:27 AM | Report abuse

At Coach Joe presser
RB had an accident
Avoid the punch bowl

Posted by: MV Dame | August 28, 2007 11:28 AM | Report abuse

Throwing Webster out;
MV Dame, non-sequitur
Rhythmic to a fault

Posted by: Anonymous | August 28, 2007 11:33 AM | Report abuse

I have some Lebowski audio clips on my iPod, always cheers me up to hear them. Great stuff.

"Ah, F it, Dude. Let's go bowling."

Posted by: Nate in the PDX | August 28, 2007 11:35 AM | Report abuse

Dame,

Too funny.

sween,

I think that Trotter still has some juice left in the tank, but we've "been there done that" with the guy. B. can we afford him? C. if there is one area on our defense that I absolutely love, it's our LB's (that and our strong safety). I don't think we need him.

Posted by: Ricky Bobby | August 28, 2007 11:35 AM | Report abuse

"And the first thing that flashed into me gulliver was that I'd like to have her right down there on the floor with the old in-out."

Posted by: not Joe Gibbs | August 28, 2007 11:37 AM | Report abuse

Trotter isn't welcomed back to Washingon.

He is the original Archibingus before we knew what that ment........

Posted by: 4th Floor | August 28, 2007 11:38 AM | Report abuse

Redcoat, with Nate's blogcount reminder, there is no longer ever even a need to HINT at anything close to an apology. "You need a toe? I can get you a toe. I can get you a toe in about three hours."

Do the Skins really have FOUR roster exemptions for NFL Europa? Who besides Lefotu? and can they actually play if the are a roster exemption guy? I thought Gardent wasn't allowed to play, just wear the jersey and practice (or maybe it was that he just wasn't that good).

Posted by: dcsween | August 28, 2007 11:39 AM | Report abuse

Can't they call the NFL Europa roster exemption something else, since NFL Europa ceased to exist? Name suggestions??

Posted by: Nate in the PDX | August 28, 2007 11:40 AM | Report abuse

I think Springs' injury, while maybe minor now - should be taken very seriously. I would even say - don't expect him to play for a while.

He takes a long time to heal & likes to come back too early. That groin still has to be bothersome.

I'd rather have him in December than in September!

Posted by: Dik | August 28, 2007 11:41 AM | Report abuse

Who's been gone from the blog longer, Lisa or Jasno? Jasno's last serious post was Saturday night.

Posted by: talent evaluator | August 28, 2007 11:41 AM | Report abuse

I'm NOT saying they should bring in Trotter ... just repeating Madden's point about how now every LB has to be a pass coverage AND a run stopping specialist. The Skins LBs so far this preseason look WAY faster than all last season. The swarming to the ball looks awesome.

Posted by: dcsween | August 28, 2007 11:42 AM | Report abuse

Springs is fine, you coked-up hamsters.

He told Coach that he "felt something" Saturday night, and the coaches were concerned about him planting on wet turf in a meaningless game.

Imagine just how much *more* dominant the 'Skins D would have been if Springs and Washington had started Saturday night.

Posted by: SCSkinsFan | August 28, 2007 11:45 AM | Report abuse

"JOEY PORTER PLANNING TO PLAY WEEK 1 by Michael David Smith

Dolphins linebacker Joey Porter participated in drills at practice Monday for the first time since having arthroscopic surgery on his right knee Aug. 7, and he says he plans to play in the regular-season opener.

"It feels good for my first day out there trying to do some football work," Porter said, per Edgar Thompson of the Palm Beach Post. "I'm ahead of the game plan. I like where I am right now and have enough time to get ready to where I want to be when opening day starts."

Dolphins coach Cam Cameron didn't come across as quite as optimistic about Porter's availability, saying he wanted to see how Porter's knee feels this morning, but Porter appears to have at least a fair chance of playing 11 days from now.

The 30-year-old Porter has had two arthroscopic surgeries on his right knee in the last 16 months, and he also had arthroscopic surgery on his left knee two years ago.

Given those knee issues, it was surprising that the Dolphins gave Porter a $20 million guarantee as a free agent this off-season.

"

Posted by: 4th via PFT.com | August 28, 2007 11:46 AM | Report abuse

Agreed, Ricky Bobby and sween. So excited about our reborn aggressive D in general, and our LBs in particular.

I was dumbstruck (momentarily) when we made Tower of London our first big signing this offseason, but that sure does look like a great call now, doesn't it?

Posted by: Nate in the PDX | August 28, 2007 11:46 AM | Report abuse

"Can't they call the NFL Europa roster exemption something else, since NFL Europa ceased to exist? Name suggestions??"

Posted by: Nate in the PDX | August 28, 2007 11:40 AM

hmmm. Might need to go to a country by country name. For Gardent, Groundskeeper Willie has a good one for the French ... cheese eatin' surrrrrrrender monkeys.

Dik, the CB depth looks better than it has in a long time. Maybe they keep an extra CB that they wouldn't otherwise keep as Springs insurance. Personal fave who is on bubble is John Eubanks. Macklin is looking tough and I bet he makes the squad regardless. [While do I feel like I thought this about Kenny Wright?]

Posted by: dcsween | August 28, 2007 11:47 AM | Report abuse

'sween, I'm sorry I apologised needlessly.

Oh now I'm apologising again, sorry.

DAMN, I hate being British.

If I can't apologise can we say 'SJK' any more?

Posted by: Redcoat | August 28, 2007 11:48 AM | Report abuse

SCSF,

I don't need 'more dominant'... dominant will do just fine

Posted by: Dik | August 28, 2007 11:48 AM | Report abuse

" ... [Springs] told Coach that he "felt something" Saturday night, and the coaches were concerned about him planting on wet turf in a meaningless game. ..."

Posted by: SCSkinsFan | August 28, 2007 11:45 AM

Senator Craig told an undercover cop the same thing. His results varied.

Posted by: dcsween | August 28, 2007 11:50 AM | Report abuse

What if the Skins make it to the SuperBowl next year under Gibbs...Wouldn't it be good if Gibbs did a press conference and said..."Kiss my Azz"?

Posted by: sicwidit | August 28, 2007 11:23 AM

LMGO! I had to clean tea off my desk after reading that one. It would be great if he did do something like that.

Posted by: jm220 | August 28, 2007 11:50 AM | Report abuse

"JOEY PORTER PLANNING TO PLAY WEEK 1 by Michael David Smith
....
Posted by: 4th via PFT.com | August 28, 2007 11:46 AM

Remember you heard that here first yesterday from me!

Cindy, can I have that other beat reporter job now that I have a scoop please, huh? I'll mostly smell things wrong like Jasno if that hulps.

Posted by: Redcoat | August 28, 2007 11:51 AM | Report abuse

"
Cowboys In Trouble At CB?

August 28, 2007 8:30 AM

In Wade Phillips' attacking 3-4 defense, it's imperative to have cornerbacks who are capable of holding their own in one-on-one coverage. Terence Newman is one of the top corners in the league, but he's suffering from a small tear in his right plantar fascia, which is a band of tissue that begins at your heel and runs along the bottom of your foot. I've always been able to avoid this injury through inactivity, but it's common among professional athletes.

As we've already discussed this morning, Matt Schaub and the upstart Texans lit up the Cowboys' secondary without Newman on the field. Veteran Aaron Glenn is a solid third cornerback, but at age 35, he's no longer an every-down player. Newman will probably receive pain-killing injections before the season-opener against the Giants, but there's no guarantee he'll be effective.

This is one of those injuries that could plague Newman the entire season, and at this point, the Cowboys don't have any recourse. Phillips sounded disgusted with the way his cornerbacks played in Houston on Saturday.

In other injury news, Martin Gramatica tweaked his right hamstring during pregame warmups Saturday, and will have to sit out Thursday's final preseason game in Minnesota.

The timing couldn't be worse for Gramatica, who is locked in a battle with sixth-round draft choice Nick Folk out of Arizona. It didn't help that Gramatica missed an extra point attempt and followed it up with an awful kickoff to the 18-yard line. I'm told he was so worried about losing his job Monday that he asked for an injection so he could try to keep competing. The trainers quickly turned down his request and told him he's not playing Thursday.

If Gramatica makes the final roster, he's guaranteed his $800,000 salary, so the Cowboys need to make a decision by Saturday, when final cuts are due. If they release Gramatica, he'll receive an injury settlement.

"I have eight years of experience in the NFL in my favor, and that's not easy to match," the passionate Argentinian told Al Dia's Carlos Nava (pronounced NAH-VUH).

Please send your complaints regarding my Cowboys bias to matt.mosley@cowboysbias.net

Thanks for your continued support.

"

Posted by: 4th Floor | August 28, 2007 11:52 AM | Report abuse

Bryant Shaw
Casey Bramlett
Kili Lefotu
Ryan Hoag

Posted by: NFL Europa Allocations | August 28, 2007 11:52 AM | Report abuse

Dik, SC, my preference for our defense runs to "dominant in a way that crushes the spirits of the opposing team by the second quarter, by which point they realize everything they do is futile, with gruesome injury a distinct possibility and an emasculating humiliation all but certain."

Posted by: Nate in the PDX | August 28, 2007 11:53 AM | Report abuse

I hope Porter plays. He's overrated and often out of position. Gives up at least as many big plays as he makes. All bark and no bite guys.

best part of that article: "11 days from now"

Posted by: Mike H. | August 28, 2007 11:53 AM | Report abuse

Hi all, I've just been really busy with work....do you all ever work???? :)

My take on Springs....he was dressed on Saturday night and pulled on Jason Campbell's ear when he walked by him (Jason was being interviewed). Springs was smiling and did not appear to be hurt. I think they just did not want to risk him playing on a wet field.

Posted by: Lisa | August 28, 2007 11:53 AM | Report abuse

From today's Examiner:

"Springs sat out Saturday's game against Baltimore as a precaution because of the wet field. Initially the Redskins said he had a sore Achilles, but it now appears the Redskins were just being careful. Springs has had a solid and injury-free summer."

Well, duh. How many times do you hit in the summer?

Posted by: talent evaluator | August 28, 2007 11:53 AM | Report abuse

Redcoat, I'm not supposed to outscoop you of your own team.

Out scope us on some Redskins news, buddy. Then you'll get your propers.....

Posted by: 4th Floor | August 28, 2007 11:53 AM | Report abuse

Seriously, I am not a big Bill Clinton fan, but some of these GOP senators are just darn creepy in their sexual practices.

Posted by: SCSkinsFan | August 28, 2007 11:54 AM | Report abuse

Cyn City, where y'at?

When you get a chance, we could use a new post, something to stoke the fire.

Posted by: Nate in the PDX | August 28, 2007 11:54 AM | Report abuse

Didn't the Redskins drop Bramlett? In which case do they still get the exemption or did they 'trade' that to Atlanta?

Posted by: Redcoat | August 28, 2007 11:55 AM | Report abuse

London does look like the finest LB pick-up the 'skins have done since...Marcus Washington. Fletch still hasn't played a regular season game but so far looks better than Pierce who BTW has been hurt more than Shawn Springs since he left. Wait a second, Fletcher and Washington picked-up by this FO. They may have actually done something half way decent - despite themselves. Well, nobody can be perfectly awful, can they?

Sorry, will go to bed and play nice tomorrow.

Posted by: bangkokben | August 28, 2007 11:56 AM | Report abuse

So, it's official. Jason's been gone from the blog longer than Lisa. Do you think he'll use work as an excuse, too. That's so lame.

Posted by: talent evaluator | August 28, 2007 11:56 AM | Report abuse

Hey Zeeb, post your glog! It's getting stale up here.

(Lisa...RI blogging is work...still trying to figure out how it justifies a tax credit)

Posted by: SCSkinsFan | August 28, 2007 11:57 AM | Report abuse

Lisa is back. All is well now.

Posted by: jm220 | August 28, 2007 11:57 AM | Report abuse

LMGO! I had to clean tea off my desk after reading that one. It would be great if he did do something like that.

I'm picturing jm gently holding his tiny tea cup in his huge right hand, slowly tipping it towards his mouth, right pinkie aloft, then spewing tea all over his computer monitor and keyboard as his boss walks behind him...

Posted by: MV Dame | August 28, 2007 11:58 AM | Report abuse

I love me some Bill Clinton, but shouldn't his new book really be called "Receiving", and not "Giving"?

http://kevxml2a.infospace.com/info.ncbuy/apnws/story.htm?kcfg=apart&sin=D8R9JHU02&qcat=entertain&ran=3869&passqi=0&feed=ap&more=1

Posted by: 4-12 | August 28, 2007 11:59 AM | Report abuse

JM220 - I just got an online email from a friend I network with who passed me an online petition that focuses on the Jeana Six that was in that article yesterday you posted.

Maybe media attention can still be brought to the forefront....

http://www.petitiononline.com/aZ51CqmR/petition.html

85,128 and counting....

Posted by: 4th | August 28, 2007 11:59 AM | Report abuse

Lisa, tal-eval, hoping Springs is ready to go on Sept.9.

As much as I love the LBs and the un-safeties, more and more it looks like Shawn is the straw that stirs the drink, to use a phrase I've never quite understood.

(Sean and LaRon the ice cubes which leap out of the glass and knock out your teeth?)

Posted by: Nate in the PDX | August 28, 2007 11:59 AM | Report abuse

Thanks 4th, 85,205 now.

Posted by: Redcoat | August 28, 2007 12:01 PM | Report abuse

Dallas being overrated is a staple of every preseason. Every year they are a 'Super Bowl Contender', but they haven't won a playoff game since 1996. We won a playoff game with Brad Johnson more recently then that, and were still rightfully crapped on as failures from 2000-2005.

It's not all bad though, the criticism the Redskins got after last year is going to make them better in '07. Dallas won't have any such motivation, because they are the most 'successful' bunch of failures in the business.

Posted by: Neal | August 28, 2007 12:01 PM | Report abuse

Seriously, I am not a big Bill Clinton fan, but some of these GOP senators are just darn creepy in their sexual practices.

Posted by: SCSkinsFan | August 28, 2007 11:54 AM

I am with you on that one. But the cigar did creep me out a little.

Posted by: jm220 | August 28, 2007 12:02 PM | Report abuse

Involuntary tea expulsion = "number four" ?

Posted by: Nate in the PDX | August 28, 2007 12:03 PM | Report abuse

Tea-sipping aside, I like to picture jm220 as Terry Tate, the office linebacker.

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-6238953685626218421

Posted by: SCSkinsFan | August 28, 2007 12:05 PM | Report abuse

Haiku thoughts on Clinton;
Like Slick Willie or Portis?
Don't care for either.

Posted by: Redcoat | August 28, 2007 12:07 PM | Report abuse

MV my back is against a wall so I can see him before he gets to my desk. He did ask what going on because my co worker keep laughing.

Posted by: jm220 | August 28, 2007 12:07 PM | Report abuse

Get some real work done?
Or play on the Insider?
My daily struggle

Posted by: MV Dame | August 28, 2007 12:07 PM | Report abuse

CP is slick too
Should he be our president?
"Deep Thoughts," by Redcoat

Posted by: MV Dame | August 28, 2007 12:14 PM | Report abuse

offensive production and turnovers.... I should add luck on the injury front (same for all teams) are the keys to a succesful year.

I will now prevoke Peric...if you just say "former RB charley taylor, Bobby mitchell" instead of being adament about them catching all those passes back in the day like they were actually comming out of the backfield

Posted by: Old School | August 28, 2007 12:14 PM | Report abuse

SCSF;

It will not really be a blog fire-stoker... actually may fall on deaf ears here, since we all are rabid fans as I...and what I mention prolly doesnt need mentioning with the hamsters who post 500 comments a day.

It is much better suited for the lurker who just reads the entry from Jasno, Cyn or the guest blogger.

I will give it one more day, I really want it to be posted up top... maybe Jasno doesnt think it deserves the title of Glog... oh well

Posted by: Zebra | August 28, 2007 12:15 PM | Report abuse

Seriously, I am not a big Bill Clinton fan, but some of these GOP senators are just darn creepy in their sexual practices.

Posted by: SCSkinsFan | August 28, 2007 11:54 AM

Anyone care to speculate on how, where, and when Senator Clinton gets off?

Posted by: Supporter | August 28, 2007 12:15 PM | Report abuse

Haiku thoughts on Clinton;
Like Slick Willie or Portis?
Don't care for either.

Posted by: Redcoat | August 28, 2007 12:07 PM

'Coat's Haiku problem
Can't seem to remember rules
5-7-5 fool!

Posted by: Redcoat | August 28, 2007 12:15 PM | Report abuse

Work struggle MV?
Blog some here, work a bit there
You really can do both!

Posted by: Redcoat | August 28, 2007 12:18 PM | Report abuse

We in here talkin' about work? I mean, listen, we talking about work.

Not the blog, not the blog, not the blog, we talking about work. Not the blog. Not the blog that I go out there and die for, and post on every thread like it's my last. Not the blog. We talking about work, man. I mean, how silly is that, when we talking about work?

I know I'm supposed to be there. I know I'm supposed to lead by example. I know that, and I'm not, I'm not shoving it aside, you know, like it don't mean anything. I know it's important, I do, I honestly do.

But we talking about work, man. What are we talking about? Work? We talking about work, man! We talking about work. We talking about work! We ain't talking about the blog! We talking about work, man.

When you come in the blog, and you see me post, you see me post, don't you? You see my give everything I got, right? But we talkin' about work right now. We talking about work.

Man, look, I hear you. it's funny to me, too. I mean, it's strange to me, too. But we talking about work, man. We're not even talking about the blog, the actual blog, when it matters. We talking about work.

...

How the hell can I make my teammates better by working?

Posted by: Nate in the PDX | August 28, 2007 12:22 PM | Report abuse

its actually better for the league if Dallas is good, it makes our rivalry better on a national level, so in a way i allways want to Dallas to be good as long as we are too.....know what I mean.....to that end I will add a favorite redskin/cowboy momment....Jason Bucks sack of Aikman causing a wild scramble in the endzone recovered by Danny Copeland for a touchdown in an emtionally charged game we had to have back at the end of Gibbs I.

Posted by: Old School | August 28, 2007 12:22 PM | Report abuse

Anyone post TMQ's acerbic take on the 'Skins?... he does conclude, however, with more evidence of the smart trade for Kendall.

"
Washington Redskins
It's Year 9 in the reign of terror of Chainsaw Dan Snyder, and the Potomac Drainage Basin Indigenous Persons have two playoff wins in the period. That's good by the standards of the Arizona Cardinals, distressing by the standards of this once-proud franchise. Consider that in his first tour as the Redskins' head coach, Joe Gibbs went 140-65 with three Super Bowl rings. Snyder was not the owner then. In his second tour, Gibbs is 22-28 with one postseason victory. Snyder's assumption of the ownership seems the big difference between Gibbs' two tours -- presumably he has been approximately the same coach both times.

Snyder runs the Redskins as if they were a fantasy football team, constantly swapping players and firing coaches, and is especially amateurish in lusting after players based on hype rather than performance. Last season, he invested huge amounts of salary cap, and loads of draft choices, in Adam Archuleta, Andre Carter, T.J. Duckett and Brandon Lloyd, all hyped players who had performed poorly for their previous employers and did nothing in 2006 for Washington. Archuleta got $6.1 million from the Redskins for seven starts, or $871,000 per start, then was benched and now is gone; Duckett carried 38 times and now is gone; Lloyd caught 23 passes; Carter was the designated pass-rusher for a defense that produced a league-low 19 sacks. In the 2006 draft, Snyder traded two second-round picks for Rocky McIntosh, who barely played in 2006. In the 2007 offseason Snyder made fewer nutty decisions, yet couldn't resist meddling. The Redskins offered valuable starting guard Derrick Dockery only about $12 million in guarantees to stay with the team, well below his market value in free agency, then gave $8 million in guarantees to cornerback Fred Smoot, who was a liability last season at Minnesota.

Trade note: Desperate to replace Dockery, the team traded for guard Pete Kendall. The terms are that the Jets will receive Washington's fifth pick in the 2008 draft, unless Kendall plays 80 percent of Redskins' snaps, in which case the choice upgrades to Washington's fourth in the 2009 draft. But draft theory says a choice discounts by one round for every year it is delayed into the future. That is, to acquire a second-round choice in the current draft, you must trade a first-round choice the following year; to get a fifth-rounder this year, you trade a fourth-rounder the next year. A fourth-round selection in 2009 isn't an upgrade over a fifth-round choice in

2008; both possess the same value. So at least I'll give Chainsaw Dan credit for snowing the Jets on this point.
"

Posted by: SCSkinsFan | August 28, 2007 12:23 PM | Report abuse

4-12 I really did laugh out loud. Hilarious.

Posted by: Skinz | August 28, 2007 12:24 PM | Report abuse

First 6-7-5
Then he writes 5-7-6
Redcoat dyslexic?

Posted by: MV Dame | August 28, 2007 12:26 PM | Report abuse

5-7-5 fool!

=

5 syllables?

Posted by: SCSkinsFan | August 28, 2007 12:27 PM | Report abuse

4-12, wasn't Bill Clinton giving Monica the business?

Posted by: MV Dame | August 28, 2007 12:31 PM | Report abuse

Old School, agree wholeheartedly.

For our rivalry with the Cowboys to reestablish its prominence -- once one of the great rivalries in all of sports! -- both teams have to be really good. The stakes have to be high every time we meet, not just bragging rights but in terms of the division and conference.

Here's hoping we're playing for something big in that season finale. A long way to go 'til then, but it would be something indeed if, dare I say it?, the division title or a playoff spot is at stake.

Posted by: Nate in the PDX | August 28, 2007 12:31 PM | Report abuse

Thursday should be Mark's day. He's more than earned it by what he's given to Skins fans the last few years.

Posted by: Gregors | August 28, 2007 12:33 PM | Report abuse

Work day half over
Enough Insider for now
It's time for lunch, yo!

Posted by: MV Dame | August 28, 2007 12:34 PM | Report abuse

Thursday should be Mark's day. He's more than earned it by what he's given to Skins fans the last few years.

Mark has been giving us the business, too!

Posted by: MV Dame | August 28, 2007 12:35 PM | Report abuse

Posted by: jm220 | August 28, 2007 12:38 PM | Report abuse

For all of wondering about Jason's whereabouts, he was just interviewed on SportsTalk980.

Posted by: Lisa | August 28, 2007 12:41 PM | Report abuse

F Greg Easterbrook

Posted by: Chris Larry | August 28, 2007 12:42 PM | Report abuse

81,000

Posted by: MV Dame | August 28, 2007 12:43 PM | Report abuse

First, and foremost:

a) Stumptown Chris where are you?

Posted by: Stumped | August 28, 2007 12:43 PM | Report abuse

Lisa, any news in that Jasno interview? Anything interesting?

Posted by: Nate in the PDX | August 28, 2007 12:50 PM | Report abuse

Second and last:

1) Postgame Zeros links should be posted for Sports scorn (Sporn) purposes only. Anyone can have a web site and pose as experts (see postgame zeros). I remember the first link to that site posted here at RI was pure CarP.

As 4th and others have pointed out again and again you can't tell where the OL failure was without knowing what blocking scheme was called. This critical point was not made by "postgame zeros." They did post frame by frame of the play...but JAWs they ain't.

Posted by: Stumped | August 28, 2007 12:52 PM | Report abuse

and another thing...If I can see through the zeros site, they're pretty bad

Posted by: Stumped (no expert and certainly not a post-game zeero fan) | August 28, 2007 12:54 PM | Report abuse

Nate, it was the same old same old.....Will JC play? Talk about the O line....Portis injuries and expected cuts. I think Jason was at the Park (or maybe Dulles airport) since he was momentarily interrupted by an airplane.

Posted by: Lisa | August 28, 2007 12:57 PM | Report abuse

Stumped - Maybe I missed the begining, but who are postgame zereos?

Posted by: 4th Floor | August 28, 2007 1:02 PM | Report abuse

Posted by: Pulldownclaw | August 28, 2007 1:03 PM | Report abuse

"Gibbs said Campbell would have to emerge from today's practice feeling 100 percent in order to start Thursday, otherwise veteran Mark Brunell would get the start."

Boy, when I read that in the article, a cold chill went up my spine - then I remembered it's only a pre-season game. Whew!

Posted by: charlie | August 28, 2007 1:07 PM | Report abuse

Pulldownclaw LMGO!! Man what is wrong with people

Posted by: jm220 | August 28, 2007 1:08 PM | Report abuse

How much for stale day old thread?

Posted by: JonTPK126 | August 28, 2007 1:10 PM | Report abuse

I need help from peeploggers and I know there are many of you here who can help.

BTW laugh out loud at my request - I have a giant knot in the muscle right below my shoulder blade and none of the stretches I know are working. Any suggestions. Bear in mind I'm at school so I can't take off any clothes or imbibe any substances that aren't legal or appropriate for this environment.

Thanks!

Posted by: sfskin | August 28, 2007 1:11 PM | Report abuse

American Gay advances goal of sprint double

Posted by: ESPN actual headline. | August 28, 2007 1:11 PM | Report abuse

81,000

Posted by: MV Dame | August 28, 2007 12:43 PM

It's an omen. Art Monk's going to Canton!

Posted by: JonTPK126 | August 28, 2007 1:12 PM | Report abuse

BTW laugh out loud at my request - I have a giant knot in the muscle right below my shoulder blade and none of the stretches I know are working. Any suggestions. Bear in mind I'm at school so I can't take off any clothes or imbibe any substances that aren't legal or appropriate for this environment.

Thanks!

Posted by: sfskin | August 28, 2007 01:11 PM

Try pushing on your hemmy.

Posted by: pseudonym | August 28, 2007 1:16 PM | Report abuse

beep beep!!

Posted by: Anonymous | August 28, 2007 1:17 PM | Report abuse

4th Floor,

These are references earlier in this thread. They did a piece on The Hit to Soup that looked very credible and was linked to by some AOL blogger (saying it was a good analysis, etc, etc). But there was no reference to the blocking scheme. The references below look like good analysis, but I'm suppose to trust them now?

The first link to PGH (many months back, was flat out wrong...can't remember what the mis-information was).

dcsween - I haven't had a decent read through it, but those boys at Post Game Heroes seem to have had a pretty thorough look at our D against the Ravens, maybe your Daniels answers can be found there.

http://www.postgameheroes.com/?p=332

Posted by: kost52 | August 27, 2007 10:51 PM

WOW. Lots to consume in the postgame hero site. The more interesting read is the take on the O-line. http://www.postgameheroes.com/?p=321 Yes, the site's credibility is nearly as invisible as Sean Taylor's MRI, but they do have some interesting takes on the play-by-play.

I may or may not have been lifting cold beverages to my face this evening (while the missus has taken the progeny to the in-laws for the week), so that bit about vets getting old might sound a little like Mayberry's Otis. Thus, I probably need to suspend my game this evening. Hasta.

Update: Best T-shirt idea is from one of Jasno's chats from last season when someone asked about what jersey number he would get ... "911" with Tyer across the top. Maybe LMGO on the front, but I dunno if Bucktown is doing double sided. Out.

Posted by: dcsween | August 27, 2007 11:10 PM

Posted by: Stumped | August 28, 2007 1:19 PM | Report abuse

and one more last thing...

* Lust for mayhem

Posted by: Stumped | August 28, 2007 1:20 PM | Report abuse

beep beep

Posted by: Anonymous | August 28, 2007 1:33 PM | Report abuse

See what I mean?

Even my Haiku corrections were 5-7-6s or 5-7-4s. I have to face the fact that I really suck at those. HaikuMan must be spinning in his (dang, I can't think of anything he could be spinning in) anyway, I give up.

Posted by: Redcoat | August 28, 2007 2:24 PM | Report abuse

I dont subscribe to stereotypes, breaking all the boundaries.

Posted by: Zebra | August 28, 2007 10:23 AM


Oh, you're one of those types!

Posted by: cload and daggar | August 28, 2007 2:42 PM | Report abuse

Yes, I would have to rate the second bomb to Moss in my top 15.
I was shocked; we stole that game after being outplayed so badly all evening.

To those commenting on the Eddie Brown return. I am willing for you to correct me. Though I have not seen a replay of that return in maybe 20 years, I recall it as a punt return not a kickoff return.

It was 1976 or 77 is my guess from memory.
I am willing to be corrected, anyone.

Posted by: Redskin Ray | August 28, 2007 2:42 PM | Report abuse

"I have a giant knot in the muscle right below my shoulder blade and none of the stretches I know are working. Any suggestions."

In the absence of a Licensed Massage Therapist, you can attempt one of the following:

1) Sit high in a hard-backed chair. Try to "capture" the knotted muscle between the shoulder blade and the top of the chair back. Once captured, hold the position until you feel the tension in the muscle release.

2) In the absence of a hard-backed chair, stand in a doorway and attempt the same maneuver - "capturing" the knotted muscle between the shoulder blade and the side of the door frame. Hold the position until the tension releases.

If either of these methods release the knotted muscle completely, no further action is necessary. It may be sore for the next 24 hours, so take an Advil or two.

If the knotted muscle will not release, pay a visit to your nearest Licensed Massage Therapist. Mention that you are having significant difficulties with your scapula.

By the way, many group insurance policies cover visits to Licensed Massage Therapists. You may wish to check your Provider List.

Posted by: LMT | August 28, 2007 3:33 PM | Report abuse

LMT, that is excellent blog karma, to post those knot-mitigation tips.

sfskin, hope you get that worked out. That's no way to spend a day at school, all knotted up.

Posted by: Nate in the PDX | August 28, 2007 4:05 PM | Report abuse

Last! Stop posting helpful tips hidden behind old post!

Posted by: 4th | August 28, 2007 4:29 PM | Report abuse

I still say pushing on your hemmy is the best solution. Last!!

Posted by: pseudonym | August 28, 2007 4:38 PM | Report abuse

Posted by: pseudonym | August 28, 2007 04:38 PM

I can be here all day buddy......

Posted by: 4th | August 28, 2007 4:40 PM | Report abuse

I prefer to spend a night at home, with company, all tied up...

Posted by: MV Dame | August 28, 2007 4:40 PM | Report abuse

4th Floor, please. You're going down!

Posted by: MV Dame | August 28, 2007 4:41 PM | Report abuse

You're right.

Did I tell you my fav college team is Michigan?

We crushed y'all last season........

Posted by: 4th | August 28, 2007 4:48 PM | Report abuse

9/15/07

Put it on your calender. They're going down, too...

Posted by: MV Dame | August 28, 2007 4:59 PM | Report abuse

How long do you think you guys can LAST?

Posted by: dcsween | August 28, 2007 5:17 PM | Report abuse

I'm tantric, sweenie-baby...

Posted by: MV Dame | August 28, 2007 5:33 PM | Report abuse

MV says "tantric"
No one can out "last" the Dame
Not so fast, I'm last

Posted by: dcsween | August 28, 2007 6:16 PM | Report abuse

With endurance you can't comprehend
I stake my claim here and defend
Last poster ability
With greatest agility
You have been bested again, my friend!

Posted by: MV Dame | August 28, 2007 7:25 PM | Report abuse

Like farts winded verses are passed,
I'm not done, you see, I'm not gassed.
You'll be gone and alone,
With peri and Priest Holmes.
Just who did you think would be last?

Posted by: Anonymous | August 28, 2007 10:03 PM | Report abuse

I want to go on record as putting up the last relevant post.

I'd give partial credit to LMT, but it's not clear that sfskin got the message.

And, for the record, this is the last relevant post.

Posted by: cload and daggar | August 28, 2007 10:22 PM | Report abuse

Records like wind break
cload tries to feign relevance
The word says it. Last.

Posted by: dcsween | August 28, 2007 11:19 PM | Report abuse

Your Haiku like wind
factually inaccurate
blows cold and heartless

Posted by: cload and daggar | August 29, 2007 12:34 AM | Report abuse

Sorry guys, but i haven't haikued in over a decade. at last, i finally get to test type on the ps3. i def need a keyboard.

Posted by: 4th | August 29, 2007 12:39 AM | Report abuse

Sween tries like Spartans
but falls to the elegance
of Michigan grad

Posted by: cload and daggar | August 29, 2007 12:39 AM | Report abuse

With rapier wit
4th provides useful stories
but cannot haiku

Posted by: cload and daggar | August 29, 2007 12:42 AM | Report abuse

his playstation three
japanese console haiku
unlock code missing

Posted by: cload and daggar | August 29, 2007 12:52 AM | Report abuse

Elegance? Maybe
In your fashion, not your words
Spartan eloquence

Posted by: dcsween | August 29, 2007 1:03 AM | Report abuse

JC -- will he play?
That would be relevant, cload
Massage? Not so much.

Posted by: dcsween | August 29, 2007 1:07 AM | Report abuse

red cedar river
the sheep research institute
East Lansing ewe love

Posted by: cload and daggar | August 29, 2007 1:11 AM | Report abuse

My tone? Cold, heartless
Sorry about that one, cload
Peri drives me nuts.

Posted by: dcsween | August 29, 2007 1:12 AM | Report abuse

Lovely State women
U of M coeds test very well
But make sheep look good

Posted by: dcsween | August 29, 2007 1:16 AM | Report abuse

peri like haiku
bad idea to read before bed
but it boosts blog count

Posted by: cload and daggar | August 29, 2007 1:16 AM | Report abuse

Can't complain re: count
But name calling is crazy
From the asylum

Posted by: dcsween | August 29, 2007 1:22 AM | Report abuse

Chiming in.

Posted by: bangkokben | August 29, 2007 1:32 AM | Report abuse

The shadows grow longer as autumn grows near,
New hope and excitement erase any fear;
The rich and the poor, the young and the old,
Come out to applaud for the burgundy and gold.

The Cowboys look scary, but always go bust,
The Eagles get older, all covered in rust;
The Giants have changed to no more than "has-beens",
The trophy is destined to read, "The Redskins"!

Posted by: Poet Laureate | August 29, 2007 7:34 AM | Report abuse

Poet Laureate
Tries to sneak last post Up Here
Always Haiku wins

Posted by: cload and daggar | August 29, 2007 9:23 AM | Report abuse

As dense ocean fog
MV eclipses the Sun
Mooning sween and cload

Posted by: MV Dame | August 29, 2007 9:27 AM | Report abuse

The sun burns off fog
Like Santana burns Dawkins,
And sween burns MV

Posted by: Anonymous | August 29, 2007 12:03 PM | Report abuse

You know I love MV Dame like a brother, and he and I are original homeboys, born just a few months apart in Portsmouth, VA. And nothing can ever change that.

But for the moment, I am LAST.

Posted by: Nate in the PDX | August 29, 2007 12:23 PM | Report abuse

Unscathed is MV
His SPF 45
Blocks sween's harmful rays

Posted by: MV Dame | August 29, 2007 12:27 PM | Report abuse

My dear bro, Nate Dogg
Though some may think I'm a clown
Homie don't play dat

Posted by: MV Dame | August 29, 2007 12:29 PM | Report abuse

Come correct now, Nate
As in, come 'ku or you lose
MV still in fog

Posted by: dcsween | August 29, 2007 12:50 PM | Report abuse

Though haiku preferred
Limericks acceptable
Poetic justice

Posted by: MV Dame | August 29, 2007 12:56 PM | Report abuse

But you surely know
I suck at haiku; also
I missed the eclipse.

Posted by: Nate in the PDX | August 29, 2007 12:56 PM | Report abuse

This battle royale
Though started by another
Will end on my word

Posted by: MV Dame | August 29, 2007 12:57 PM | Report abuse

My word? Or your word.
Nathan Junior can't tell which.
Hard to learn pronouns.

Posted by: Nate in the PDX | August 29, 2007 1:00 PM | Report abuse

Gutenberg's revenge.
Meant of course Loseable Type.
Not Steve from "Cocoon."

Posted by: Nate in the PDX | August 29, 2007 1:02 PM | Report abuse

Dame's algorithm
Can't tell when threads will be closed.
His tears will tell all.

Posted by: Nate in the PDX | August 29, 2007 1:09 PM | Report abuse

MV spots a trend
"Three Men..." man; three new haiku
But three fives no more

Posted by: MV Dame | August 29, 2007 4:54 PM | Report abuse

cload cannot devote
time flows like the Potomac
but is last for now

Posted by: cload and daggar | August 29, 2007 10:15 PM | Report abuse

An MV downpour
cload's river runneth over
His post washed away

Posted by: MV Dame | August 29, 2007 11:20 PM | Report abuse

The MV weekend
vineyard missing two bunnies
left him blogging guts

Posted by: cload and daggar | August 30, 2007 12:22 AM | Report abuse

"Three Men" reference
Fleeting and false as Dame's post
Ghost in a hallway.

Posted by: Nate in the PDX | August 30, 2007 9:17 AM | Report abuse

MV definitely
"somethinged" his guts out last week
Not sure "blogged" though

Posted by: Redcoat | August 30, 2007 1:13 PM | Report abuse

Haiku skirmishes
Always get my blood flowing
They're good for the soul

Posted by: MV Dame | August 30, 2007 3:07 PM | Report abuse

bemused blogger here
wish to concede finally
yet somehow cannot

Posted by: cload and daggar | August 30, 2007 3:15 PM | Report abuse

cload's concession stand
Specializing in haiku
None worth a nickel

Posted by: MV Dame | August 30, 2007 3:22 PM | Report abuse

Now others are here?
Surely a mistake? I know;
Don't call me Shirley.

Posted by: Redcoat | August 30, 2007 3:24 PM | Report abuse

the treads of my tyres
are now bound for the homestead
lorry goes; this post stays

Posted by: cload and daggar | August 30, 2007 3:55 PM | Report abuse

Hey you guys, what's up?
MV Dame still can't stay last?
Lone gun men at work.

Posted by: dcsween | August 31, 2007 10:01 AM | Report abuse

yellow flag, mister
dcsween checks in far too late
my championship

Posted by: cload and daggar | August 31, 2007 4:48 PM | Report abuse

MV Dame sows seed
cload and dagger sows his socks
dcsween reaps all

Posted by: dcsween | September 2, 2007 1:47 PM | Report abuse

oh, sween's midday post
a lame attempt to compete
I am thread master

Posted by: cload and daggar | September 2, 2007 9:58 PM | Report abuse

cload, App State called in
to send back your dignity
number 5? no. 2

Posted by: dcsween | September 4, 2007 9:00 AM | Report abuse

whiskey is my salve
greatest victory ever
or the greatest loss?

Posted by: cload and daggar | September 4, 2007 9:53 PM | Report abuse

Salve it for the judge.
Where, pray tell, is MV Dame?
Is this OUR death match?

Posted by: dcsween | September 5, 2007 4:44 PM | Report abuse

Skins cut Whitticker
Then Lemar ... then Brown ... Askew
This cut is deepest

http://www.radarmagazine.com/features/2007/08/worst_colleges_cornell_bridgeport_michigan_state_university1.php

Posted by: dcsween | September 5, 2007 4:47 PM | Report abuse

academic year
too short a time to study
Sparty plays all day

Posted by: cload and daggar | September 5, 2007 8:10 PM | Report abuse

oh wet red cedar
the escape from east lansing
saved sween at long last

Posted by: cload and daggar | September 5, 2007 8:14 PM | Report abuse

No saving some sweens
Rue, regret, lust (for mayhem)
Skins win will undo

Posted by: dcsween | September 5, 2007 9:26 PM | Report abuse

with lust 4 mayhem
afterburners are needed
pigtails are not sexy

Posted by: cload and daggar | September 5, 2007 10:04 PM | Report abuse

Has it come to this?
sween and cload in fight to "last"?
No "juice" left in Dame.

Posted by: dcsween | September 6, 2007 9:18 AM | Report abuse

sween and cload no threat
Both fail to capitalize
While MV stands tall

Posted by: MV Dame | September 6, 2007 1:58 PM | Report abuse

MV standing tall
But after last weekend's romp
He must still hang limp

Posted by: dcsween | September 6, 2007 3:41 PM | Report abuse

Ashford & Simpson
Got nothin' on ol' MV
Solid as a rock

Posted by: MV Dame | September 6, 2007 3:53 PM | Report abuse

Rock? maybe pop rock
Like what happened to Landry
Careful with that thing

Posted by: dcsween | September 6, 2007 4:45 PM | Report abuse

This Mortal Kombat
Will bring sure Death to Sweeny
MV still Top Gun

Posted by: MV Dame | September 6, 2007 5:04 PM | Report abuse

Italicized films?
Is that the best that you got?
Flappy, floppy Dame

Posted by: dcsween | September 6, 2007 5:06 PM | Report abuse

Battle rages on
sween uppercuts; MV jabs
Blogging and weaving

Posted by: MV Dame | September 6, 2007 5:17 PM | Report abuse

michigan football
wolverine season over
still can win this blog

Posted by: cload and daggar | September 6, 2007 9:34 PM | Report abuse

respect the redskins
burgundy and gold attacks
they beat the dolphins

Posted by: cload and daggar | September 6, 2007 11:51 PM | Report abuse

cload joins dcsween
just like Michigan joins State
no ranking for us

Posted by: dcsween | September 7, 2007 11:19 AM | Report abuse

Check that. I smell it.
Is it hard work, sweat, and tears?
Yes, both teams smell rank.

Posted by: dcsween | September 7, 2007 11:21 AM | Report abuse

Oregon lays eight
one hundred is not enough
prepare for spanking

Posted by: cload and daggar | September 7, 2007 10:54 PM | Report abuse

Michigan stinkers
Won't get a whiff of rankings
Nor sniff the Roses

Posted by: MV Dame | September 7, 2007 11:11 PM | Report abuse

Harsh words of the Dame
what of his alma mater?
tampa has QBs

Posted by: cload and daggar | September 8, 2007 12:32 AM | Report abuse

Though once defeated
ND regains old glory
Shakes down the thunder

Posted by: MV Dame | September 8, 2007 2:22 PM | Report abuse

ND? Shaking down?
Parkinsons disease perhaps
SOOOO overrated

Posted by: dcsween | September 8, 2007 4:26 PM | Report abuse

RI history
Who slipped the beans on us three?
Nate? No ... Cindy.

Posted by: dcsween | September 8, 2007 4:29 PM | Report abuse

College ball talk done
At least MSU won twice
Sween does have some shame

Posted by: dcsween | September 8, 2007 9:37 PM | Report abuse

Michigan loses
at least the beer is colder
than my Carr support

Posted by: cload and daggar | September 9, 2007 12:51 AM | Report abuse

close this thread cindy
regular season is here
cload's win is complete

Posted by: cload and daggar | September 9, 2007 11:14 PM | Report abuse

Complete? hold the phone
Just not quite yet, Carr lover
My last laugh laughs last.

Posted by: dcsween | September 10, 2007 12:36 PM | Report abuse

cload pleas for closure
While sween is just laughable
Neither sees the light

Posted by: MV Dame | September 10, 2007 3:20 PM | Report abuse

Must be a record
55 straight haiku posts
MV adds one more

Posted by: MV Dame | September 10, 2007 3:54 PM | Report abuse

Separate counter?
Just for haiku marathon?
Really impressive.

Posted by: dcsween | September 10, 2007 4:10 PM | Report abuse

Many thanks, sweenie
Praise from worthy opponents
Humbles me greatly

Posted by: MV Dame | September 10, 2007 4:38 PM | Report abuse

i camp here forever
college ball now takes no time
victory is mine

Posted by: cload and daggar | September 10, 2007 9:48 PM | Report abuse

After so many
To have syllable problems
Is just plain silly

Posted by: MV Dame | September 10, 2007 9:55 PM | Report abuse

some typos happen
i was not supposed to be
but this is solid

Posted by: cload and daggar | September 10, 2007 10:26 PM | Report abuse

Unforgiveable.
And you want to reign supreme?
Adhere to haiku!

Posted by: dcsween | September 11, 2007 9:11 AM | Report abuse

High upon his throne
MV smiles down on sween, cload
Nodding in assent

Posted by: MV Dame | September 11, 2007 11:01 AM | Report abuse

High and nodding off
Dame ponders life in DC
Capitolism

Posted by: dcsween | September 11, 2007 2:48 PM | Report abuse

sween's haiku challenge
A monumental mistake
MV owns dc

Posted by: MV Dame | September 11, 2007 3:06 PM | Report abuse

ND at MI
Is this a GAME some sort?
Oh No v. Uh Oh

Posted by: Anonymous | September 11, 2007 4:12 PM | Report abuse

So, what's the deal here?
JC says he will play, huh?
I'd like to play, too.

Posted by: Nate in the PDX | September 11, 2007 4:22 PM | Report abuse

sween's (?) haiku question
Not only misses the point
But the word "of" too

Posted by: MV Dame | September 11, 2007 4:28 PM | Report abuse

A late blog entry
In haiku and stamina
Nate to test his skills

Posted by: MV Dame | September 11, 2007 4:29 PM | Report abuse

Silly, silly Dame.
Blog haiku contest easy.
Not marathon, sprint.

Posted by: Nate in the PDX | September 11, 2007 4:35 PM | Report abuse

My oops on the "of"
Figured I needed to share
To fix cload's off-ku

Posted by: dcsween | September 11, 2007 4:50 PM | Report abuse

freakin' fake posts in my name, three so far today, ticking me off. not haiku, just a rant. on the verge of sending in a Complaint about it. ugh. serious fun mitigation.

Posted by: Nate in the PDX | September 11, 2007 5:06 PM | Report abuse

Nate thinks like the hare
But with tortoise's mindset
Dame wins; no fable

Posted by: MV Dame | September 11, 2007 5:13 PM | Report abuse

Many regrets Nate
Faking fakers really suck
But long ku run boinked

Posted by: dcsween | September 11, 2007 5:16 PM | Report abuse

If consolation
We know who you are, Nate Dogg
And who you are not

Posted by: MV Dame | September 11, 2007 5:26 PM | Report abuse

End of haiku run
Fun mitigation indeed
Oh well, start anew

Posted by: MV Dame | September 11, 2007 5:30 PM | Report abuse

(Next time, Nate...)

Freakin' fake posters
Three today pisses me off
Where's suggestion box?

Posted by: MV Dame | September 11, 2007 5:31 PM | Report abuse

This old JC thread
Forgotten by all others
Our secret treehouse

Posted by: MV Dame | September 11, 2007 5:32 PM | Report abuse

Very sorry, dudes
A lot of blog rage to vent...
Pooped in the punch bowl

Posted by: Nate in the PDX | September 11, 2007 5:33 PM | Report abuse

We can't let him win
The blog is bigger than him
A single a$$clown

Posted by: Nate in the PDX | September 11, 2007 5:35 PM | Report abuse

Having crashed your fun
And broken string of haiku
Treehouse yours again...

Posted by: Nate in the PDX | September 11, 2007 5:36 PM | Report abuse

Treehouse punchbowl soiled
Drink full from the cup of life
Less from the punchbowl.

Posted by: dcsween | September 11, 2007 8:45 PM | Report abuse

The Cup of Life, eh?
sween the Ricky Martin fan
Never woulda guessed

Posted by: MV Dame | September 11, 2007 9:32 PM | Report abuse

my private preserve
now spoilt by a motley crew
still have days to go

Posted by: cload and daggar | September 11, 2007 9:45 PM | Report abuse

Days, months, a lifetime
With this blog you never know
'Cept that you will lose

Posted by: MV Dame | September 11, 2007 10:46 PM | Report abuse

i am like portis
my haikus have stood for days
have already won

Posted by: cload and daggar | September 12, 2007 12:37 AM | Report abuse

Back onto the field
With haikudinitis
cload up the middle

Posted by: dcsween | September 12, 2007 9:45 AM | Report abuse

Middle finger up
dcsween to cload and Dame
Thank ku very much

Posted by: dcsween | September 12, 2007 9:47 AM | Report abuse

Maybe as excuse
But injuries no reason
For meager haiku

Posted by: MV Dame | September 12, 2007 12:35 PM | Report abuse

Carpal tunnel looms
Fewer Vineyard tourists mean
Dame uses more wrist

Posted by: dcsween | September 12, 2007 1:17 PM | Report abuse

sween counter punches
Swinging low, below the belt
MV feels the pain

Posted by: MV Dame | September 12, 2007 1:46 PM | Report abuse

Dame feeling the pain.
Just wait my friend, you don't know;
married ... with blue balls.

Posted by: dcsween | September 12, 2007 1:50 PM | Report abuse

Having busted this thread
Breaking awesome haiku run
I've come back to help

Posted by: Nate in the PDX | September 12, 2007 2:48 PM | Report abuse

Extra syllable
Unmistakable sign that
This is really me

Posted by: Nate in the PDX | September 12, 2007 2:49 PM | Report abuse

Boring Omar thread
Lloyd, Springs, Wade, safeties bore me
More fun over here

Posted by: Nate in the PDX | September 12, 2007 2:51 PM | Report abuse

Nate always welcome
Free from impersoNaters
In secret treehouse

Posted by: MV Dame | September 12, 2007 3:01 PM | Report abuse

Fun is relative
Adding to your haiku run
Is its own reward

Posted by: Nate in the PDX | September 12, 2007 3:02 PM | Report abuse

Don't forget, also
This is an epic battle
For last place poster

Posted by: MV Dame | September 12, 2007 3:06 PM | Report abuse

Like Big Lebowski
Carpet pissers -- punch poopers
Treehouse sitting rules

Posted by: dcsween | September 12, 2007 3:13 PM | Report abuse

Epic battle thread.
Can't we all just get along?
At least no fake Nates.

Posted by: dcsween | September 12, 2007 3:20 PM | Report abuse

Here and on Omar
Check out two 3:01 posts
Freaking me out, man

Posted by: MV Dame | September 12, 2007 4:08 PM | Report abuse

Dame is freaking freaked.
But all know Dame knows secrets
Of Loseable Type

Posted by: dcsween | September 12, 2007 4:52 PM | Report abuse

Some loseable types
Come to MV's mind today
sween, cload, Nate, Redcoat...

Posted by: MV Dame | September 12, 2007 7:05 PM | Report abuse

Dame loseable too
As in, you will lose, MV
Loser losing LAST!

Posted by: dcsween | September 12, 2007 9:49 PM | Report abuse

night shift is here
too much time on this blog stuff
makes nate a target

Posted by: cload and daggar | September 12, 2007 11:19 PM | Report abuse

Nate baiting does suck
REALLY downing me big time
But will still win here

Posted by: dcsween | September 13, 2007 10:16 AM | Report abuse

perhaps hand signals
can lure fake nate from his shell
anonimity

Posted by: cload and daggar | September 13, 2007 10:31 PM | Report abuse

Secret film review
Shows fake hand signals won't work
To trick lure back Nate

Posted by: dcsween | September 14, 2007 10:33 AM | Report abuse

The return of Nate
Signals MV's revival
Videotape that!

Posted by: MV Dame | September 14, 2007 3:31 PM | Report abuse

Roll cameras. check
Cue up light, audio. check
Dame still loses. check

Posted by: Anonymous | September 14, 2007 7:40 PM | Report abuse

Will the Nate come here
it's a blogger's safe haven
except for the count

Posted by: cload and daggar | September 14, 2007 8:55 PM | Report abuse

Unbelievable
The effing nerve of them all
I'm so disgusted

Posted by: MV Dame | September 14, 2007 9:35 PM | Report abuse

B*tching in haiku
May have more difficulty
Than we can handle

Posted by: MV Dame | September 14, 2007 9:37 PM | Report abuse

Begging for help here
Huge need for intervention
Straw breaks camel's back

Posted by: Nate in the PDX | September 14, 2007 9:43 PM | Report abuse

No joy in Blogville
Nothing we can do to stop
This a$$clown assault

Posted by: Nate in the PDX | September 14, 2007 9:44 PM | Report abuse

Has Cyn responded?
Is she able to block them?
Or even catch them?

Posted by: MV Dame | September 14, 2007 9:45 PM | Report abuse

Archuleta style
Opposition unopposed
Blog is defenseless

Posted by: Nate in the PDX | September 14, 2007 9:47 PM | Report abuse

Nothing from Cindy
No specific plans, I mean
Blog is sitting duck?

Posted by: Nate in the PDX | September 14, 2007 9:48 PM | Report abuse

Looks hopeless to me
They are still going at it
Now using my name

Posted by: MV Dame | September 14, 2007 9:49 PM | Report abuse

Of this I am sure:
WashPo steps up to save blog
Or I'm really done.

Posted by: Nate in the PDX | September 14, 2007 9:49 PM | Report abuse

Reset our focus
No chance at Ultimatum
New goal: survival

Posted by: Nate in the PDX | September 14, 2007 9:51 PM | Report abuse

Nothing will be done?
Seems this crisis is fatal
It was a fun ride

Posted by: Nate in the PDX | September 14, 2007 9:53 PM | Report abuse

haiku only is off

Nate, I'm with you 110%. So fed up right now...

Posted by: MV Dame | September 14, 2007 9:58 PM | Report abuse

Ah, yes, Pulldownclaw
An optimistic, bringing hope
Get the blog untracked

Posted by: Nate in the PDX | September 14, 2007 9:58 PM | Report abuse

Yeah man, freakin' hard to keep up the haiku. WHew!

Dude, I am more than a little disappointed that WashPp hasn't done anything to shut this nonsense down. Our little community obviously is big enough to merit some heavier monitoring because of the type of traffic we're getting. But this kind of stuff seems out of Cindy's bailiwick, though I'm sure she would help if she could do more.

Seriously, shutting down the blog altogether would be better than this. It's so dumb.

Posted by: Nate in the PDX | September 14, 2007 10:01 PM | Report abuse

When Tulsa posted the other night saying how he(?) couldn't understand why it was so upsetting to you I couldn't believe it. But then again, he didn't even know what "the PDX" was so he couldn't possibly be able to relate to our little community and the truly special relationships we all have with each other now. It wouldn't matter how much he was ever able to read because he never participated like we have...

Posted by: MV Dame | September 14, 2007 10:06 PM | Report abuse

Also, I really, really stink at haiku. I'm trying to stick within the local definition of the form (5-7-5) but it usually looks like my toddler arranged some of those magnet words on a fridge.

Posted by: Nate in the PDX | September 14, 2007 10:06 PM | Report abuse

sweenie, cloadie...

Please proceed with the haiku. Nate and I are trying to get the "current" blog back to normal so... do your thing. Just don't be too bummed out when it turns out that I beat both your a**es in the end.

haiku only back on!

Posted by: MV Dame | September 14, 2007 10:16 PM | Report abuse

Let there be no doubt
O'er any and all takers
MV will triumph

Posted by: MV Dame | September 14, 2007 10:18 PM | Report abuse

Five-seven-five, sure
I also do five-six-five
And four-eight-five, two

Posted by: Nate in the PDX | September 14, 2007 10:29 PM | Report abuse

Come on already
You have your winner right here
Just shut off this thread

Posted by: Nate in the PDX | September 14, 2007 10:29 PM | Report abuse

a secret blog room
for the enjoyment of few
now write good haiku!

Posted by: cload and daggar | September 14, 2007 10:53 PM | Report abuse

the wheels of justice
slowly move. WaPo is not
ready for the net

Posted by: cload and daggar | September 14, 2007 10:59 PM | Report abuse

cload, have we not mailed?

I had a very therapeutic email rant and subsequent followup conversations with about 20 blog peeps this week, lamenting the situation which led me to boycott for a few days. As I put together my "To" list for my rant mail, I was a little surprised not to find you among the people I've corresponded with off-blog in the past ten months. You and 4-12 and LH.

I guess we've never had a reason to rap off the blog, but you're one of my faves, in case that hasn't been made clear.

Anyway, back to the haikuathon... cheers, lads.

Posted by: Nate in the PDX | September 14, 2007 11:34 PM | Report abuse

Dame did not respond
Silent solidarity
Meant no Nate, no blog

Posted by: MV Dame | September 15, 2007 12:03 AM | Report abuse

Nate -- don't believe we have.... use unfrozencavemanblogger at gmail dot com

I can understand the frustration, I wish there was a solution, but I've seen this movie a time or two, and either the community rides it out and the ITAs go find some other scabs to pick, or the group splinters and people find their own secret places to go... like on shudda-been-retired threads!

Posted by: cload and daggar | September 15, 2007 12:15 AM | Report abuse

This treehouse is hilarious. Seriously, are the comments going to be shut down soon, or is the lease being extended?

Posted by: Nate in the PDX | September 15, 2007 2:11 AM | Report abuse

Kind hearts, coronets
All for the words of support
But I will outLAST!

Posted by: dcsween | September 15, 2007 7:53 AM | Report abuse

Eyes on the prize, Nate
No time for questions round here
Blogging marathon

Posted by: dcsween | September 15, 2007 7:54 AM | Report abuse

Grabbing Gatorade
Like Nigerian racer
Blogging with no shoes

Posted by: dcsween | September 15, 2007 7:56 AM | Report abuse

MV's sustenance
Bowls of Cinnamon Toast Crunch
Now back in the race

Posted by: MV Dame | September 15, 2007 12:33 PM | Report abuse

Crunch, crunch, sound of toast?
If its MV Dame's sound then
Yes, Dame will be toast.

Posted by: dcsween | September 15, 2007 2:49 PM | Report abuse

sorry to the dame
hope MV is beautiful
your offense is not

Posted by: cload and daggar | September 15, 2007 8:48 PM | Report abuse

A tardy answer
To your earlier question
Weis is the culprit

Posted by: MV Dame | September 16, 2007 6:30 PM | Report abuse

game analysis
not too hard using haiku
Why is problem Weis?

Posted by: cload and daggar | September 16, 2007 8:09 PM | Report abuse

Hart put team on back
defense still not confident
but big ten is next

Posted by: cload and daggar | September 16, 2007 10:59 PM | Report abuse

Hart's Ultimatum
Met slim to no resistance
Easier than ours

Posted by: MV Dame | September 16, 2007 11:05 PM | Report abuse

Michigan's season
now defined by two more wins
sween's moo U and nuts

Posted by: cload and daggar | September 16, 2007 11:43 PM | Report abuse

State v U. of M.
Not as sure about that win
As much as one here

Posted by: dcsween | September 17, 2007 9:53 AM | Report abuse

Spartans have new coach
Nittany Lions Legend
both will taste defeat!

Posted by: cload and daggar | September 17, 2007 9:54 PM | Report abuse

Three cornerbacks now
Completely balanced game plan
O and D win games.

Posted by: dcsween | September 18, 2007 12:32 AM | Report abuse

Redskins are decent
part of the great unwashed mass
of teams that don't suck

Posted by: cload and daggar | September 18, 2007 12:46 AM | Report abuse

cload undersells Skins.
NFC East parade rain.
FO failures washed.

Posted by: dcsween | September 18, 2007 9:41 AM | Report abuse

Late summer deluge
haiku falls like cats and dogs
Into the gutter

Posted by: MV Dame | September 18, 2007 10:05 AM | Report abuse

I'll keep that in mind
Mind in the gutter I mean
Along with my 'ku

Posted by: dcsween | September 18, 2007 1:25 PM | Report abuse

two teams above all
Pats and Colts superior
all others unwashed

Posted by: cload and daggar | September 18, 2007 10:57 PM | Report abuse

Dominant QBs
NE has great defense too
But has unclean hands

Posted by: dcsween | September 19, 2007 9:18 AM | Report abuse

Tired poetry
sween & cload struggle to write
MV simply yawns

Posted by: MV Dame | September 19, 2007 10:24 PM | Report abuse

talk like a pirate
it's almost like festivus
weak haiku MV

Posted by: cload and daggar | September 19, 2007 11:25 PM | Report abuse

Chasm is yawning
Dame's body of work: haiku
Alot like a corpse

Posted by: dcsween | September 20, 2007 9:28 AM | Report abuse

Wiki-fied MV
Kicking a** and taking names
sweenie first, then cload

Posted by: MV Dame | September 20, 2007 7:52 PM | Report abuse

Call me Ishmael, Dame
That would make you the Moby
Sinking to the Deep

Posted by: dcsween | September 20, 2007 9:23 PM | Report abuse

midweek blues are here
anticipating the game
but too long's the wait

Posted by: cload and daggar | September 20, 2007 10:05 PM | Report abuse

Post must archive soon
Blogsprints? This is marathon...
Only in dog miles.

Posted by: dcsween | September 20, 2007 10:17 PM | Report abuse

Awaiting my move
Plus the race to 100
Longest. Week. Ever.

Posted by: MV Dame | September 20, 2007 10:19 PM | Report abuse

better planning dame
the Boren ultimatum
a longstanding goal

Posted by: cload and daggar | September 21, 2007 12:09 AM | Report abuse

Cannot stop blogging
Were this not my last day here
I'd surely be canned

Posted by: MV Dame | September 21, 2007 8:24 AM | Report abuse

New day's dawn arrives
Dame packs bags, boxes, and crap
Gints also pack crap.

Posted by: dcsween | September 21, 2007 9:27 AM | Report abuse

MV done with work
Unemployed and loving it
Now just have to pack

Posted by: MV Dame | September 21, 2007 9:20 PM | Report abuse

giants also pack
fudge is what they're packing
not that it is wrong

Posted by: cload and daggar | September 21, 2007 9:23 PM | Report abuse

State faces Irish
In more ways that one, I think.
MSU will win.

Posted by: dcsween | September 22, 2007 7:50 AM | Report abuse

I don't disagree
ND will need Irish luck
Just to beat poor Duke

Posted by: MV Dame | September 22, 2007 1:59 PM | Report abuse

Smack talk not so fun
With foes like the U of M
And "fighting" Irish

Posted by: dcsween | September 22, 2007 8:36 PM | Report abuse

Moo U has one goal
must beat Michigan or bust
bowl game Turkey Day

Posted by: cload and daggar | September 22, 2007 10:50 PM | Report abuse

the poor DC dame
you cannot lose to Moo U
they start to believe

Posted by: cload and daggar | September 23, 2007 1:16 AM | Report abuse

A tardy MV
Last night jet-lagged and sleeping
Is last this morning

Posted by: MV Dame | September 23, 2007 10:57 AM | Report abuse

Giants did not win
Skins lost that game with bad play
Bye week to fix that.

Posted by: dcsween | September 23, 2007 9:07 PM | Report abuse

so much for sixteen
would like to join baby cry
but seems so pointless

Posted by: cload and daggar | September 23, 2007 10:08 PM | Report abuse

Its never as great
Or as horrid as it looks
Mid-league parity.

Posted by: dcsween | September 24, 2007 1:09 PM | Report abuse

it's never too good
after a loss by seven
to check on the blog

Posted by: cload and daggar | September 24, 2007 8:11 PM | Report abuse

Influx of haters
Blog monologues after loss
Regs return shortly

Posted by: dcsween | September 25, 2007 9:59 AM | Report abuse

Life in the Treehouse
no problems and no worries
a Corona ad

Posted by: cload and daggar | September 25, 2007 10:41 PM | Report abuse

Drinking Corona
Itself is a worry, cload
Sex in a canoe

Posted by: dcsween | September 26, 2007 9:46 AM | Report abuse

Don't drink the stuff; its
fundamental bankrupcy:
"Put a lime in it"

Posted by: cload and daggar | September 26, 2007 10:58 AM | Report abuse

Lime and coconut.
Ain't there nothin' I can take?
Skins do make me ache.

Posted by: dcsween | September 26, 2007 11:24 AM | Report abuse

Skins have stuff to fix
at least I'm not a CowPie
feces in the field

Posted by: cload and daggar | September 27, 2007 8:26 PM | Report abuse

Grass always greener
Where the punchbowl is dumped out
Or where cload haikus

Posted by: MV Dame | September 28, 2007 1:24 AM | Report abuse

mystery of fate
Wolverines pull out the win
but the Dame cries still

Posted by: cload and daggar | September 29, 2007 9:24 PM | Report abuse

notre dame punch bowl
oh how full of excrement
Charlie put it down

Posted by: cload and daggar | September 29, 2007 9:32 PM | Report abuse

Still talking college?
Would have thought shame in order
Single wins not good.

Posted by: dcsween | October 1, 2007 11:45 AM | Report abuse

a double standard
Hope Solo "sells out her team"
Joe: Portis is fine

Posted by: cload and daggar | October 2, 2007 11:48 PM | Report abuse

Hope going Solo
Scurry may be back, only
Eight years from success

Posted by: dcsween | October 3, 2007 10:26 AM | Report abuse

Haiku-a-thon lives!
And drags like 4th quarter lead
It cries, "kill me now".

Posted by: dcsween | October 4, 2007 9:45 AM | Report abuse

Thy wish be granted
Prepare for sure destruction
At hands of MV

Posted by: MV Dame | October 4, 2007 12:48 PM | Report abuse

a haiku treehouse
skimming lightly as I read
the Hamsters of doom

Posted by: cload and daggar | October 4, 2007 5:06 PM | Report abuse

MV in the HOUSE!
Throwin' down some weak haiku
Prepare to fall ... guy

Posted by: dcsween | October 5, 2007 9:38 AM | Report abuse

Bionic MV
The six million dollar Dame
ku's with sound effects

Posted by: MV Dame | October 5, 2007 10:06 PM | Report abuse

Like Skins, dcsween
In the house to lay smack down
On Dame. cload out (house)

Posted by: dcsween | October 7, 2007 3:55 PM | Report abuse

Mine eyes deceive me
All outlets are reporting
The Irish have won?

Posted by: MV Dame | October 7, 2007 9:28 PM | Report abuse

What putrid smell this
Emanating from the blog?
Oh... Just sween 'kuing

Posted by: MV Dame | October 7, 2007 9:30 PM | Report abuse

DC Dame 'round here
Big battle for the prefix
Who knows? MV sween?

Posted by: dcsween | October 8, 2007 9:18 AM | Report abuse

cload on a golf trip
vacation good for the soul
swing not good to grass

Posted by: cload and daggar | October 9, 2007 7:54 PM | Report abuse

The Return of the cload!
Like swinging souls at FedEx
Now to mow down Favre

Posted by: dcsween | October 10, 2007 10:51 AM | Report abuse

cload scratches his head
trying to figure out why
CowPies like skins blog

Posted by: cload and daggar | October 11, 2007 12:42 AM | Report abuse

RI rules all blogs
Even foes dig the jibba
Our "community"

Posted by: dcsween | October 11, 2007 9:45 AM | Report abuse

missing the jabba
just to make it true haiku
leaves empty feeling

Posted by: cload and daggar | October 11, 2007 9:06 PM | Report abuse

I know -- feel dirty
Jabba-less jibba means that
Han Solo goes free

Posted by: dcsween | October 14, 2007 11:56 AM | Report abuse

Your Pregame Haiku
so innocent and geeky
but all hope now lost

Posted by: cload and daggar | October 14, 2007 11:55 PM | Report abuse

Hope is not yet lost
Not like Skins are U of M
Eleven to go

Posted by: dcsween | October 15, 2007 3:08 PM | Report abuse

pain, toil, and despair
the effort and talent gone
woe unto us all

Posted by: cload and daggar | October 15, 2007 7:59 PM | Report abuse

Calling it quits now?
Still lots of gas in that tank
Dude, lay off my wife

Posted by: dcsween | October 16, 2007 11:31 AM | Report abuse

bereft of meaning
bloggers demand new linemen
oh, S T F U

Posted by: cload and daggar | October 16, 2007 9:38 PM | Report abuse

Calling all linemen
Skins need you (to stay healthy)
PEPCO linemen free?

Posted by: dcsween | October 16, 2007 9:47 PM | Report abuse

all pepco linemen
west virginia's thinnest men
twenty to a ton

Posted by: cload and daggar | October 16, 2007 9:56 PM | Report abuse

Them're fightin' words
My own kin from thereabouts
An' PEPCO would'n feed us!

Posted by: dcsween | October 16, 2007 10:33 PM | Report abuse

sween, sween, sween, (sween sween)
so Halloween is your fave
you get to pumpkin

Posted by: cload and daggar | October 16, 2007 11:56 PM | Report abuse

Honor in mountains
Like official State flower
A satellite dish

Posted by: dcsween | October 17, 2007 10:44 AM | Report abuse

car set up on blocks
right near Robert Byrd Parkway
and Robert Byrd Way

Posted by: cload and daggar | October 17, 2007 12:05 PM | Report abuse

Blocks? you're talkin' blocks?
The Skins' O-line can block all
All but injuries

Posted by: dcsween | October 17, 2007 12:48 PM | Report abuse

slippery field
Heyer does unnatural
splits that make me ouch!

Posted by: cload and daggar | October 17, 2007 9:31 PM | Report abuse

An ailing MV
Victim of food poisoning
Makes cload feel his pain

Posted by: MV Dame | October 18, 2007 10:05 PM | Report abuse

MV nauseous
was it the Thai pizza hut
or loss to BC?

Posted by: cload and daggar | October 18, 2007 11:41 PM | Report abuse

Bad food is the worst
Identity is revealed
MV Dame is Smoot

Posted by: dcsween | October 19, 2007 4:00 PM | Report abuse

one time every year
we cheer for Moo U Spartans
whoever plays Bucks

Posted by: cload and daggar | October 20, 2007 12:33 AM | Report abuse

Maize and Blue roll on
but Sparty can't get it done
and MV cries out

Posted by: cload and daggar | October 21, 2007 1:50 AM | Report abuse

Just horrible O
Ugly is as ugly does
Still, win is a win.

Posted by: dcsween | October 22, 2007 4:38 PM | Report abuse

just enough to win
unsettled offensive line
keep the Soup alive!

Posted by: cload and daggar | October 23, 2007 6:46 PM | Report abuse

WHEN will this thread end?!?!
Its like waiting for the Pats
The end (may) be near

Posted by: dcsween | October 25, 2007 5:21 PM | Report abuse

we'll fight on beaches
we'll blog on the haiku thread
never surrender

Posted by: cload and daggar | October 26, 2007 12:16 AM | Report abuse

We're talking beaches?
Beaches and sons of beaches.
Now I need more rum.

Posted by: dcsween | October 26, 2007 4:42 PM | Report abuse

Bass Ale is the choice
the discriminating taste
the weekend begins

Posted by: cload and daggar | October 27, 2007 12:47 AM | Report abuse

unpleasant's a word
that sums up the last three hours
good old a$$ whuppin'

Posted by: cload and daggar | October 28, 2007 7:44 PM | Report abuse

Unpleasant would be
But one word, but not enough
Syllables for 'ku

Posted by: dcsween | October 29, 2007 4:50 PM | Report abuse

A flag on the play?
Ref's picking up the hanky?
take me to the booth!

Posted by: cload and daggar | October 29, 2007 11:03 PM | Report abuse

Dame has disappeared
sween's miscounting syllables
and cload is no more

Posted by: daggar | October 31, 2007 11:23 PM | Report abuse

cload stuck in the booth
alone, got sticky fingers
playing with daggar

Posted by: dcsween | November 1, 2007 5:05 PM | Report abuse

What miscount, daggar?
Five-seven-five was right there!
No flag, reset clock.

Posted by: dcsween | November 1, 2007 5:07 PM | Report abuse

sween's posts are all good
but saying cload's miscounting
a ruinous path

Posted by: daggar | November 1, 2007 9:43 PM | Report abuse

Syllable trouble?
Afraid MV gone for good?
You can count on me

Posted by: MV_Dame | November 4, 2007 7:33 PM | Report abuse

MV Dame testing
Previous haiku went bad
Can you see me now?

Posted by: MV_Dame | November 4, 2007 7:43 PM | Report abuse

Aaah... much, much better
Back in the saddle again
Call me MVsmith

Posted by: MV_Dame | November 4, 2007 7:46 PM | Report abuse

Dame in the casa
you've definitely been missed
hope you've got the count!


NOT EVER AGAIN!

Posted by: daggar | November 4, 2007 11:18 PM | Report abuse

Count machine destroyed
Michael Boltonized it was
À la Office Space

Posted by: MV_Dame | November 6, 2007 12:56 AM | Report abuse

Sween snorts at you two
DC Dame and daggar, cload
Let's start this party!

Posted by: dcsween | November 6, 2007 11:09 AM | Report abuse

if you wanna be
a happy fan of the team
request more cowbell

Posted by: daggar | November 7, 2007 12:05 AM | Report abuse

Are you guys still here?
Skins in November is like
Waiting for Godot

Posted by: dcsween | November 7, 2007 11:36 AM | Report abuse

skins in November
much more hopeful than Spartans'
Paul Bunyan Trophy

Posted by: daggar | November 7, 2007 8:10 PM | Report abuse

Spartans' fourth quarters
Appear to copy the Skins
Death due to safe play

Posted by: dcsween | November 8, 2007 11:33 AM | Report abuse

Michigan's fourth scores
a precursor to Brady's
two daggers one heart

Posted by: daggar | November 8, 2007 10:30 PM | Report abuse

Poopish calls by Gibbs
Cooked Eagle flesh rises like
Phoenix from ashes

Posted by: dcsween | November 13, 2007 4:36 PM | Report abuse

What's in the punchbowl?
Who put Gibbs in charge of drinks?
Don't drink the kool-aid!

Posted by: MV_Dame | November 15, 2007 11:44 PM | Report abuse

Can't believe you dopes
Still pooping in this punch bowl
Silly Dame, cload, sween.

Posted by: NateinthePDX | November 16, 2007 8:19 AM | Report abuse

Punch bowl not full yet
hate to steal from Forrest, but
Poop is as poop does

Posted by: daggar | November 16, 2007 10:07 AM | Report abuse

Return of The Poop
Skins likely to drop the soap
Injuries, not shame

Posted by: dcsween | November 16, 2007 5:31 PM | Report abuse

Said it in August
Soup has got to lead us home
victory or death!

Posted by: daggar | November 16, 2007 10:07 PM | Report abuse

bad weekend defined
not one to go after Carr
but Godfrey Daniels!

Posted by: daggar | November 17, 2007 9:29 PM | Report abuse

the wounded heart cries
Fall to your most hated foe
Michigan! Redskins!

Posted by: daggar | November 19, 2007 11:43 PM | Report abuse

Boys loss not so bad
We have us a quarterback
Campbell is our now

Posted by: dcsween | November 20, 2007 5:58 PM | Report abuse

not so bad he says
lost to the effin' CowPies
F the CowPies -- hard

Posted by: daggar | November 20, 2007 10:19 PM | Report abuse

the mighty daggar
statute of limitations
shut this turkey down

Posted by: daggar | November 24, 2007 11:13 PM | Report abuse

Worst Skins loss ever
Not a stupid weekly game
Rest in peace, Reaper

Posted by: dcsween | November 28, 2007 10:31 AM | Report abuse

Super Exciting
Amazingly Talented
Now gone, far too soon

Posted by: daggar | November 29, 2007 11:06 PM | Report abuse

My soul does not ache
over this Redskin effort
but lo, does it ache

Posted by: daggar | December 2, 2007 5:12 PM | Report abuse

Bills game worst ever
First our safety (our danger!)
Then the five field goals

Posted by: dcsween | December 3, 2007 1:25 PM | Report abuse

An awful week ends
But must be put behind us
Dominate Da Bears

Posted by: daggar | December 3, 2007 10:09 PM | Report abuse

Six minutes are left
but SWMBO won't evacuate
the curse of Tivo

Posted by: daggar | December 6, 2007 11:26 PM | Report abuse

Skins are back, baby!
Just need to run the table.
We're Toddballers now!

Posted by: dcsween | December 10, 2007 4:28 PM | Report abuse

My lust for mayhem
no more in the autumn air
the embers still burn

Posted by: daggar | December 12, 2007 1:34 AM | Report abuse

Beware of The Todd
Mightier than Tom Brady?
As a Wolverine

Posted by: dcsween | December 14, 2007 10:53 AM | Report abuse

An MV sighting?
Oh yes indeedy, sweenie
Restaking my claim

Posted by: MV_Dame | December 17, 2007 1:24 AM | Report abuse

MV maybe here
But he comes up short ... sighted
Un-re-staking claim

Posted by: dcsween | December 17, 2007 12:47 PM | Report abuse

Six Game Playoff Runs
The true meter of Gibbs 2
The Eagle loss haunts

Posted by: daggar | December 17, 2007 12:51 PM | Report abuse

Eagles haunt Dallas!
Gibbs loves December football,
Couldn't with the strike

Posted by: dcsween | December 17, 2007 4:10 PM | Report abuse

One Dimensional
Vikes road kill on playoff march
purple eat-me-ers

Posted by: daggar | December 19, 2007 9:03 PM | Report abuse

Instead of last word
Our fight is far more noble
Fight for last haiku

Posted by: daggar | December 21, 2007 9:11 PM | Report abuse

The late MV Dame
Like a zombie from Thriller
Returns from the grave

Posted by: MV_Dame | December 23, 2007 9:56 PM | Report abuse

Idiot coaches
And needless two-point attempts
Drive MV insane

Posted by: MV_Dame | December 23, 2007 10:37 PM | Report abuse

The thin line between
sanity and your state now
hard to determine

Posted by: daggar | December 29, 2007 10:22 PM | Report abuse

The CowPies go down
and sweet playoffs soon begin
fighting our guts out

Posted by: daggar | December 31, 2007 12:51 AM | Report abuse

Holiday Haiku
In a preseason blog post
August be here soon!

Posted by: daggar | January 1, 2008 11:34 PM | Report abuse

Forgotten, not gone
dcsween back to haiku
But not so clever

Posted by: dcsween | January 2, 2008 11:03 AM | Report abuse

MV's great haiku
Underappreciated
Pearls before sween

Posted by: MV_Dame | January 3, 2008 1:16 AM | Report abuse

I've been all over
Round the world and back again
The cload? Less traveled

Posted by: MV_Dame | January 3, 2008 1:21 AM | Report abuse

daggar and MV
Did not notice my blog taunt
"Do peeps still haiku?"

Posted by: dcsween | January 3, 2008 5:38 PM | Report abuse

Dame, noted, but "eh"
Welcome back though. You still count?
Cyndy still in awe.

Posted by: dcsween | January 3, 2008 5:41 PM | Report abuse

Your Haiku taunting
reminds me of Knight Python
Dame counts for no man

Posted by: daggar | January 3, 2008 11:54 PM | Report abuse

Come back here, daggar!
Neither of you scare dcsween
I'll bite you to death

Posted by: dcsween | January 4, 2008 11:59 AM | Report abuse

new gmail account
warrants new user id
lower-case mv

Posted by: mvdame | January 5, 2008 4:52 AM | Report abuse

MV only counts
On sween's piss poor poetry
Eight syllables, eh?

Posted by: mvdame | January 5, 2008 4:55 AM | Report abuse

Lest cloadie forget
Or sweenie get complacent
MV here to stay

Posted by: mvdame | January 5, 2008 4:57 AM | Report abuse

dame's new moniker
still half full of lying lies
long way from vineyard

Posted by: daggar | January 6, 2008 4:21 PM | Report abuse

season of haiku
in one long hidden treehouse
mock draft here we come

Posted by: daggar | January 6, 2008 4:23 PM | Report abuse

Seven syllables!
After abrupt end for Skins
The 'sween' is silent

Posted by: dcsween | January 7, 2008 9:56 AM | Report abuse

Unsilenced by Coach
Just as abruptly, he's gone
Thank you tons, St. Joe!

Posted by: dcsween | January 8, 2008 2:04 PM | Report abuse

So much for the Mocks
First comes the unexpected
St. Joe will be missed

Posted by: daggar | January 8, 2008 11:42 PM | Report abuse

I mock mocks, daggar
Mocks can wait, still football here
Only wildcards done

Posted by: dcsween | January 9, 2008 1:28 PM | Report abuse

And the search is on
Vegas involved (please no Chin)
Don't screw this up, Dan

Posted by: dcsween | January 9, 2008 3:50 PM | Report abuse

Here are the keys, coach
my billion-and-a-half babe
Not a scratch, young man!

Posted by: daggar | January 16, 2008 1:01 AM | Report abuse

Four "interviews", Gregg
Do you really want the job?
Fetch me my slippers

Posted by: dcsween | January 16, 2008 9:13 AM | Report abuse

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