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Not "The Worst Coach In America"

Jim Zorn clarified his remarks from Monday today, explaining to his players and then the media when he said he "felt like the worst coach in America," that he obviously was not saying he was not in fact, the worst coach in America. That distinction seemed pretty obvious to me at the time, but Zorn did quickly explain it at the usual Wednesday team meeting.
Zorn also said he was not tired or worn out on Monday, but just a little down, obviously, about the losing streak. "It was just hard to not feel terrible about the run," Zorn said, saying it "felt sickening," but that he is full of energy and attacking the problems as always.
Zorn said he got lots of calls from friends and other coaches, boosting him up, and said that while he did not feel like he needed the gestures, he was touched by them nonetheless.
The coaches are working on going a little slower at practice, with players making mistakes and committing penalties in games, despite running things well in practice. Zorn said the illegal procedure penalty Sunday in Cincy came on play they repped three times at practice, perfectly every time.
"It was just a slip of the mind," Zorn said of the penalty.
Zorn said he is taking more of a training camp approach to practice, rather than the normal tempo of a midseason practice, and he is continuing to try to get young pass catchers Malcolm Kelly, Fred Davis and Devin Thomas up to speed. (That trio has been unable to grasp simple nuances at times and simply have not been able to master their routes and make plays on the field).
Zorn also spoke about the injuries facing the team.
LB London Fletcher is not practicing with his injured foot but is expected to play.
RT Jon Jansen is expected to test out his knee at the end of the week and put some weight on it, but Zorn said if he is not able to practice regularly this week then he would not play.
LB Marcus Washington has been out a month with a high ankle sprain, and just began to really take light work today in practice but "it looked like his first day back," Zorn said. I wouldn't count him in for Sunday.
DT Cornelius Griffin (shoulder) looks like he will play.
S Chris Horton (shoulder) looked good at practice, Zorn said, and it sounds like he might be able to play.

By Jason La Canfora  |  December 17, 2008; 3:50 PM ET
 
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First to say, lol @ San Francisco.

Posted by: TheTruth11 | December 17, 2008 4:00 PM | Report abuse

"Jim Zorn clarified his remarks from Monday today, explaining to his players and then the media when he said he "felt like the worst coach in America," that he obviously was not saying he was not in fact, the worst coach in America."


hard-hitting journalism at its finest

Posted by: TheTruth11 | December 17, 2008 4:01 PM | Report abuse

"Bottom line: I agree that a GM has to have some skills at identifying talent ... either as a scout ... or a coach ... maybe even a former college coach ... probably not as a racquetball partner ...

Posted by: dcsween"

I'm going out on a limb here, but I'm going to say that Vinny's actual talent identifying isn't a problem.

It's his elementary GMing philosophies.

It's believing that the "best player available" is the best way to draft, even though there isn't a GM in the league that can identify with any consistent accuracy who the actual best player is that's available.

It's his belief that linemen shouldn't be taken high during the draft.

It's his insistence to prioritize building from the outside-in, players furthest from the line of scrimmage being his highest priority.

It's his devaluing of draft picks, and overvaluing of talent that's been successful with other teams, particularly older talent.

It's his lack of a discernible plan, opting to keep 10 draft picks one year, but trade away 3 draft picks the next.

Again, it's not his actual evaluation of talent that's the problem. It's everything else.

Posted by: psps23

Posted by: psps23 | December 17, 2008 4:01 PM | Report abuse

TheTruth11 = John Rocker

Posted by: JasonLaTempleton | December 17, 2008 4:03 PM | Report abuse

ohh god T1=T11!!!
i rescend my apology.

Posted by: dealer1 | December 17, 2008 4:04 PM | Report abuse

"TheTruth11 = John Rocker

Posted by: JasonLaTempleton "

because I don't like hippies?

I could care less about people's sexuality. It's about their smugness and hippyness, losers.

Posted by: TheTruth11 | December 17, 2008 4:05 PM | Report abuse

Nice clarification. We know that the actual worst coach in America right now is Rod Marinelli.

Posted by: p1funk | December 17, 2008 4:06 PM | Report abuse

what is T1 and T11?

I need someone to catch me up on the "cool regular" slang here.

Posted by: TheTruth11 | December 17, 2008 4:07 PM | Report abuse

I am pretty sure 96% of San Fran - all genders and orientations- could kick the Truth's azz.....

Posted by: chrislarry | December 17, 2008 4:09 PM | Report abuse

Brand names and/or knuckleheads: What a great draft and trade strategy!

Posted by: joe2chase | December 17, 2008 4:10 PM | Report abuse

Zorn said he FELT like the worst coach, not that he IS the worst coach.

Essentially, he said that he felt like Charlie Weis.

Posted by: dcsween | December 17, 2008 4:11 PM | Report abuse

dude, what's wrong with hippies? and smugness? hippies and smugness don't go together. whomever claimed to be a hippy in your life was not a hippy. seriously you should visit berkeley and sf. i think one visit will shatter your image of hippies. sincerely.

Posted by: dealer1 | December 17, 2008 4:11 PM | Report abuse

Im sorry I just cant believe that 3 people are stupid. come on not one of the receivers can grasp the system. I can see if 2 of them or even 1 of them didnt get it, but all 3 and were going into week 16 of the regular season.

Maybe it is not the players, maybe it is the stupid arogant my scheme is smart and everybody else is dumb coach.

Posted by: GreatOne1 | December 17, 2008 4:11 PM | Report abuse

lions put up like 21 points against the colts...

Posted by: dealer1 | December 17, 2008 4:13 PM | Report abuse

"dude, what's wrong with hippies? and smugness? hippies and smugness don't go together. whomever claimed to be a hippy in your life was not a hippy. seriously you should visit berkeley and sf. i think one visit will shatter your image of hippies. sincerely.

Posted by: dealer1 "

Jeeze, it was a joke.


Do any of yall watch South Park?

Posted by: TheTruth11 | December 17, 2008 4:14 PM | Report abuse

Sween, the problem vs solved is a bit simple. I would agree that Rocky Mc is a gray area, and Randy Thomas is too. And there are 3 WR slots. 1 is a problem, 2 are not.

My perspective obviously, and people will differ. Still, when figuring out a plan, its a good place to start.

Posted by: zcezcest1 | December 17, 2008 4:18 PM | Report abuse

"I am pretty sure 96% of San Fran - all genders and orientations- could kick the Truth's azz.....

Posted by: chrislarry "

and that's very relevant, chrislarry

wtf

Posted by: TheTruth11 | December 17, 2008 4:18 PM | Report abuse

@GreatOne... No amount of scheming can correct the "We need 7 yards but I'll stop at 4 yards and then make someone miss" kind of stupid. The rookies still haven't quite grasped that the difference in talent between individual players in the NFL is far slimmer than it was in college; very few atheletes are THAT much more talented than the NFL Norm.

It's simple principle that often gets lost on players who dominate in college; it takes a mental adjustment to grasp the concept that understanding the offense is more likely to yield results than trying to make a stellar play.

Posted by: AppleScience | December 17, 2008 4:21 PM | Report abuse

psps -- I absolutely agree with you on Vinny. He does OK at identifying college talent (though you wouldn't know it by this year). What he doesn't get is how to identify needs and have a plan to address them.

I've posted the draft #'s for the OL and DL up here repeatedly. Not much.

To me, its pretty simple. When your entire OL is age 31 (and up) for opening day -- plus has a history of injuries -- you better be bringing in guys to replace them.

Its not rocket science.

Posted by: zcezcest1 | December 17, 2008 4:25 PM | Report abuse

Im sorry I just cant believe that 3 people are stupid. come on not one of the receivers can grasp the system. I can see if 2 of them or even 1 of them didnt get it, but all 3 and were going into week 16 of the regular season.

Maybe it is not the players, maybe it is the stupid arogant my scheme is smart and everybody else is dumb coach.

Posted by: GreatOne1

It would hardly surprise me if 2 drafted WRs failed in the NFL. That's more likely than both succeeding.

As far as Davis goes, Zorn said himself that Davis' limitations are on special teams. If he can't play there, he can't be a backup tight end. And he can't be a starting TE either, because we have a perennial pro-bowl TE that's going to be here for the long haul (which begs the question "why even draft him", but that's another discussion). I think Davis has a grasp of the offense, but he's limited by who's in front of him on two fronts: starting TE, and special teams.

Posted by: psps23 | December 17, 2008 4:26 PM | Report abuse

I get your smugness joke from the south park episode, the electric car and smelling their own stink. Those are the type of people I can do without. But the people who you'd classify as hippies are the kind of laid back friendly people this world could use more of. Don't be so close minded. Know that is tough for good ole boys from down south.

Posted by: JasonLaTempleton | December 17, 2008 4:26 PM | Report abuse

Truth, you'll be warmly welcomed if you ever go to SF.

Posted by: zcezcest1 | December 17, 2008 4:26 PM | Report abuse

psps23, I think the problem IS talent evaluation and I don't think Vinny actually does any talent evaluation ... I think it funnels up through a committee ... rather than having the chops to evaluate guys directly himself. But I agree that there are plenty of other talent acquisition problems. You mentioned some of the big ones. You forgot the one about taking a flier on "pre-existing conditions," e.g., injuries (Kelly, McIntosh), attitude/ego (Lloyd, Deion), as well as "paying it forward," i.e., paying based on performance aspirations rather than actual performance* (Lloyd, Archuleta, Carter) ...

* I recognize that Fletcher diminishes this criticism a little. I'm still waiting for the other shoe to drop on D'Angelo Hall, though admittedly, so far, so good ... makes me think he's not planning on sticking around.

Posted by: dcsween | December 17, 2008 4:31 PM | Report abuse

Posted by: AppleScience


To your point, you cant blame stoping at 4 yards when you need 7 on the players, that is on Zorn and it is documented. Zorn is on recorded as saying that he calls plays that are short of the first down with the expecation that the player will get the additional yardage.


Just plain studid

Posted by: GreatOne1 | December 17, 2008 4:33 PM | Report abuse

yall are just hopeless

yall take anything out of context


I'm far from a good ol' boy in the sense yall think


Northerners I think have this weird sense of how we are. I got no beef with hippies, the school I went to was loaded with them and I would probably have classified myself as one. I love a lot of hippy music.

Joke, people. Jeeze.

Posted by: TheTruth11 | December 17, 2008 4:34 PM | Report abuse

"Truth, you'll be warmly welcomed if you ever go to SF.

Posted by: zcezcest1"

As they would here.

Posted by: TheTruth11 | December 17, 2008 4:34 PM | Report abuse

qeed qeed

Posted by: dcsween | December 17, 2008 4:39 PM | Report abuse

sween, the only reason I say his talent evaluation isn't bad is because this roster DOES have talent, but the team as a whole is built fundamentally flawed. And no doubt he has a ton of help identifying players, but he does have to sign off on who comes to the team, and I don't think he does it blindly. Of course I could just be naive on that last point.

Posted by: psps23 | December 17, 2008 4:41 PM | Report abuse

@ GreatOne: Don't remember those comments, though its possible that some routes on short yardage plays fit that description; I find it hard to believe that the playbook is littered with plays that call for all the receivers to stop before the 1st down marker.

Posted by: AppleScience | December 17, 2008 4:44 PM | Report abuse

Im sorry I just cant believe that 3 people are stupid. come on not one of the receivers can grasp the system. I can see if 2 of them or even 1 of them didnt get it, but all 3 and were going into week 16 of the regular season.

Maybe it is not the players, maybe it is the stupid arogant my scheme is smart and everybody else is dumb coach.

Posted by: GreatOne1

I couln't agree with you more. I gues the vets don't get it because they sure keep making mistakes.

JM220

Posted by: icetotalpackage | December 17, 2008 4:53 PM | Report abuse

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