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Jim Zorn To Be The Next Head Coach

Just got off the phone with sources with knowledge of the situation. Zorn will be the next head coach. He spent a lot of time with Vinny Cerrato and Dan Snyder the past two days, team sources said, and the brass - Cerrato in particular - "fell in love with him." The team flew a plane to pick up his family this weekend. A press conference could come by 3 pm Sunday

Zorn was the Seattle QB coach the last 6 years and spent about two weeks as the Redskins Offensive Coordinator, before this latest promotion.

Twice in recent days the Redskins contacted Jim Fassel to tell him they were about to move forward, but never reached the contract stage, league sources said, which int he end turned out to be a stall tactic. Steve Mariucci and Ron Meeks, the other finalists, had not been contacted as this afternoon.

One league source said Zorn would get a five-year deal.

By Jason La Canfora  |  February 9, 2008; 6:18 PM ET
 
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Comments

FIRST!

Posted by: rpsingh1054 | February 9, 2008 6:22 PM | Report abuse

unbelievable we pass over gg for ZORN?????????????????????????

Posted by: jklaw | February 9, 2008 6:23 PM | Report abuse

WOW WOW WOW...Second...moving on up!!

Posted by: tenniz | February 9, 2008 6:23 PM | Report abuse

Compared to Fassel this is a choice I can live with

Posted by: mofass79 | February 9, 2008 6:25 PM | Report abuse

Forget Gregg Williams, he's gone. Zorn is here, so why not?

Posted by: min7th | February 9, 2008 6:27 PM | Report abuse

AH AH HAHAHAHAHAHA! This is going to be awesome!!!!!

Posted by: MNSkinsFan | February 9, 2008 6:28 PM | Report abuse

With the right OC I'd actually be ok with this.....

And no, I don't know why. Just a gut feeling.

Posted by: eeyeats | February 9, 2008 6:28 PM | Report abuse

Wow, that would be a strange twist in this nutty, ridiculous saga. This thing is getting weirder and weirder every day.

Posted by: PDiddy | February 9, 2008 6:29 PM | Report abuse

And another thing, at this point I would rather have Zorn as a unknown, than Fassel.

Posted by: min7th | February 9, 2008 6:29 PM | Report abuse

Just interview russ grimm already...

Posted by: gtstang9t3 | February 9, 2008 6:31 PM | Report abuse

I, too, can live with Zorn as head coach. We know what we get with Fassel, and it's not a championship or consistent contender, or even someone who will truly inspire great play from his players.

Pats lost more than the Super Bowl; that aura is gone, they now look old and slow (on defense), and having 'shot their load' this year don't expect them to be #1 contenders for much longer.

As much as I wanted them to win, it's nice not seeing Belichick get more rings than Gibbs.....

Posted by: pdfordiii | February 9, 2008 6:32 PM | Report abuse

BONG!!!!!!!!!

Posted by: leevi98 | February 9, 2008 6:34 PM | Report abuse

RUSS GRIMM

Posted by: jhess18 | February 9, 2008 6:34 PM | Report abuse

I have to say. I'm also more comfortable with Zorn than with Fassal.

Can't believe I still see russ grimm comments on here... the idea is dead and will never go anywhere. Some people just have too much time on thier hands

Posted by: darbs77 | February 9, 2008 6:35 PM | Report abuse

I have to wonder what's really going on here. Is this process being drawn out because coaches have come to the conclusion that "Mr." Snyder is untrustworthy? Or is it that they're not willing to abide by the restrictions in personnel and staff decisions that "Mr." Snyder is imposing upon candidates? Or is it that "Mr." Snyder is simply being thorough and hasn't found a candidate to his liking?

This whole thing is nuts.

Posted by: PDiddy | February 9, 2008 6:36 PM | Report abuse

Zorn is highly respected around the league, Blache can definately handle the defense. I almost like this move. Yes Grimm by far would be my choice but word is Danny and Russ dont exactly get along.

Posted by: mofass79 | February 9, 2008 6:36 PM | Report abuse

If this is true, this makes me believe the other three coaches turned down the position. Nice, Real Nice.

Posted by: ynotcaruso | February 9, 2008 6:37 PM | Report abuse

I would much rather have Jim Zorn as the HC than Jim Fassel any day.

How much do you think Danny boy paid the Washington Post to write the article about all this blowing over. Don't worry, I already lost my respect for you Danny and really hope one day soon you sell the team.

Jim Zorn is an unknown, but would much prefer him to Freakin Fassel. If you hire Fassel there will be heck to pay.

Posted by: cangle12 | February 9, 2008 6:39 PM | Report abuse

From everything I've read about Zorn, if he's coach, I'll buy in. So then who's OC? Is Zorn still QB coach too?

Posted by: scampbell1975 | February 9, 2008 6:40 PM | Report abuse

I will echo the comment "passed over Williams for Zorn?".

It does seem to be a stretch, but at this stage any head coach is better than none, I guess. Why am I getting the feeling that this "very thorough" search is running out of options?

Posted by: driley | February 9, 2008 6:41 PM | Report abuse

I'm stunned. Other than I'm just relieved it's not Fossil, I'm not sure what else to say.

Posted by: JustMe | February 9, 2008 6:42 PM | Report abuse

Zorn; we don't know you, you are now the HC of a very rabid fanbase that will give you 2 weeks. I wish you luck.

Posted by: goskinsgo | February 9, 2008 6:42 PM | Report abuse

WOW is all I can say. From QB coach to a head coach. I don't like it but it beats the hell out of Fassel. Let's roll

Posted by: jm220 | February 9, 2008 6:43 PM | Report abuse

I said this is what we sould do like 5 days ago. Looks like im retarded... I like this, in a west coast offense, portis will be lethal, like westbrook. He also said that he wanted to be balanced so get ready for some Smashmouth football.

Posted by: mrodlauer | February 9, 2008 6:46 PM | Report abuse

WHAT A JOKE!!!!!!!


DANNYBOY IS USELESS AND LOST ALL CREDIBILITY NOW.

Posted by: vince2 | February 9, 2008 6:48 PM | Report abuse

it wouldn't be so bad if they had gone after zorn and hired him. but they clearly offered the job to multiple coaches that turned them down, they ran the best candidates on their own staff out of town, and wound up stuck with a guy that they didn't even consider a head coaching candidate when the process began... over a month ago. it speaks volumes about what we should expect in the vinny cerrato era.

Posted by: dashner | February 9, 2008 6:49 PM | Report abuse

BTW, no one else is reporting this yet. If this turns out to be true, well done to Jasno on the scoop.

What an absurd situation.

Can't wait to hear the real backstory of how things went down.

Posted by: PDiddy | February 9, 2008 6:49 PM | Report abuse

On the Danimal front, we should get together all of DC, pool 2 Billion George's and Buy the team, or rush his potomac estate and force him to give it up in a hostage situation

Posted by: mrodlauer | February 9, 2008 6:49 PM | Report abuse

So, how long before training camp?

Posted by: min7th | February 9, 2008 6:49 PM | Report abuse

So...we passed over a coach that our players would play their hearts out for, to get the coach from one of our newer rivals? I didn't want Fassel or Zorn honestly. Might not sound "fan-ish" but I didn't want to win with a Giants coach. I don't want to win with a Seahawks coach now either. I hope it freakin' works out though because I love my 'Skins.

Posted by: sdmdtsu | February 9, 2008 6:50 PM | Report abuse

espn had it at 6pm

Posted by: rbdsmittydc | February 9, 2008 6:51 PM | Report abuse

The Washington Times is ALSO reporting this and NBC4 mentioned it as well.

Posted by: Lisa_R | February 9, 2008 6:52 PM | Report abuse

Was watching NFL Network - show about great players in the 40s and 50s and such. The news about Zorn rolled across the bottom.

Posted by: skinfanman | February 9, 2008 6:52 PM | Report abuse

Does this mean they have to hire another OC now? There doesn't seem to be anyone to promote from within.

Posted by: amcginl00 | February 9, 2008 6:52 PM | Report abuse

for starters, love the announcement at dinner time on Saturday night.

secondly, QB coach to OC to HC in 2 weeks?

F'ing unbelievable.

what a joke.

Posted by: johnw | February 9, 2008 6:52 PM | Report abuse

It's reported on ESPN news.

Posted by: scampbell1975 | February 9, 2008 6:52 PM | Report abuse

No surprises with the little boy running the show, as well as, no surprises with Zorn as coach. The boy backed himself into a corner and selected the candidate that would not anger the fan base.

Just from a karma and etiquette standpoint the fans deserve a couple of 4-12 seasons with Snyder moving the team to Los Angeles to fit his personality.

Posted by: truetradition1946-1970 | February 9, 2008 6:53 PM | Report abuse

Agreed, dashner. This seems like a total clusterf--- doesn't it?

Idiotic is another word for it.

I'm going to watch the 1991 Super Bowl again.

Posted by: PDiddy | February 9, 2008 6:53 PM | Report abuse

ARE YOU KIDDING ME?????????

Posted by: tafka | February 9, 2008 6:53 PM | Report abuse

BONG!!!!!!!!!

Posted by: leevi98 | February 9, 2008 06:34 PM
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HIT!!!!!!!!!!

(from the gravity bong)

Posted by: Poopy_McPoop | February 9, 2008 6:54 PM | Report abuse

rps...get a life!
The idea here is to talk football.

Yep, looks like everybody else turned Danny-boy down. It'll be interesting to see how DS explains why he didn't hire Zorn as the HC in the first place. Just how nicely can you say..."nobody else wanted the job, so we settled for Jimmy here."

Posted by: al852 | February 9, 2008 6:54 PM | Report abuse

Are you f&*@ing serious??? I guess nobody wanted to come and play with lil' Danny Boy...Oh well I guess, I love the Redskins and have to live with it eventhough the owner gotta be the dumbest person ever, I have no respect for Dan Snyder and Vinny Cerrato and most of the people reading this gotta agree with me...F@(& it HAIL TO THE REDSKINS!!!

Posted by: Lo4Siempre | February 9, 2008 6:54 PM | Report abuse

F SNYDER!

F VINNY!

F FOSSIL!

HI ZORNY.

Posted by: tafka | February 9, 2008 6:55 PM | Report abuse

I'm so confused.

Posted by: Skins__Stons | February 9, 2008 6:55 PM | Report abuse

http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/index

Still don't see it here.

Posted by: skinfanman | February 9, 2008 6:55 PM | Report abuse

LOL @ "hostage situation".
I think Danny would tap out with a simple noogie.

Posted by: 1fasthoo | February 9, 2008 6:56 PM | Report abuse

F SNYDER!

F VINNY!

SEE YOU IN A MUSEUM, FOSSIL!

Posted by: tafka | February 9, 2008 6:56 PM | Report abuse

The press conference should be littered with plenty of rhetoric and back slapping over their thorough evaluation process and how exhausting it was. Hahahaha!

Posted by: truetradition1946-1970 | February 9, 2008 6:56 PM | Report abuse

WOW this one is a shock well let's see what
Jim Zorn can do He's knew so it will be some pains but Good Luck Coach Zorn now who is the OC?? Well Zorn hold both Hats?
To Jim Fassel if I were you I would tell DS to stick it
where the sun don't shine for playing me cheap and this should have been done along time ago

Posted by: donaldtaylor | February 9, 2008 6:56 PM | Report abuse

Zorn, welcome to the big leagues. Work our Redskins hard, inspire them, and beat Dallas.

Posted by: cali_snowboarder | February 9, 2008 6:56 PM | Report abuse

Well, at least it is a unknown entity and not a recycled coach!

Posted by: ynotcaruso | February 9, 2008 6:56 PM | Report abuse

This is almost as silly as George W. Bush asking Dick Cheney to lead the search for a VP candidate and Cheney recommending himself.

Posted by: linroy62 | February 9, 2008 6:57 PM | Report abuse

Wow.

Now it becomes pretty clear we were gearing up for either Fassel or Mooch, and either someone blew their interview or Snyder had a change of heart after some ink was already dry.

If Zorn really is all that, then I applaud Snyder and company for seeing it and having the courage to act on it. Especially with the national spotlight on this process, it's a ballsy choice. They could have hired a few guys and had a round of polite applause everyone. This one will result in some eyebrows going up and a lot of scrutiny. I like it. I think.

But if Zorn fails, nothing can rescue Dan Snyder from looking like a buffoon. Nothing. I've defended him over and over, but this process and this decision will now cement his legacy.

I think Dan owes the fans a candid post-mortem on this process. What he was thinking, when he was thinking it. Because without it, we'll be left to our imaginations, and this whole thing will look a bad 1980's teen romance.

Zorn was either his third-choice backup date, who really should have stayed just friends or his one true love, who was sitting under his nose all the while he chased the prom queen.

DO NOT picture Steve Spagnuolo in a prom dress. I warned you.

Posted by: jvwright | February 9, 2008 6:57 PM | Report abuse

Maybe Fassel would be interested in the now vacant OC position. He is desperate.

Posted by: amcginl00 | February 9, 2008 6:58 PM | Report abuse

Please don't let Brian Billick be the OC!

Posted by: ynotcaruso | February 9, 2008 6:58 PM | Report abuse

I like the fact that we got a young coach, but I'm a little worried about handing the job over to a guy who's never been a coordinator before and has never had to really deal with big market pressures on a day to day basis. I do feel bad somewhat for Ron Meeks who sat around patiently for weeks and went through all of Snyder's hoops. Hopefully Zorn is the second coming of Gibbs or Bill Walsh, but I gotta say I don't understand why he's better than GW.

Posted by: sr_ashcraft1 | February 9, 2008 6:59 PM | Report abuse

Hey, comparing "Mr." Snyder to an LA personality is insulting to LA. Angelenos are a bit out there, but at least the women are hot and the weather perfect. Right now, I see very little going positively for the 'Skins. I hope I'm wrong, but this coaching search exemplifies the rudderless ship that is this franchise.

At least none of us will have any unrealistic expectations heading into training camp...

Posted by: PDiddy | February 9, 2008 6:59 PM | Report abuse

i'm just shocked the danny didn't make himself head coach in all this bs drama. i guess i'll take zorn over fassel any day.

Posted by: zizou1972 | February 9, 2008 6:59 PM | Report abuse

bebebebebebeb. Thats my brain saying huh.

Posted by: bryjen48 | February 9, 2008 7:00 PM | Report abuse

Well I guess Zorn is gonna be the lame duck till next year when Danny boy will throw 10 million dollars a year to become the coach of the team...that's the only thing that would make sense...

Posted by: Lo4Siempre | February 9, 2008 7:00 PM | Report abuse

Jim Zorn, the Anti-Plash.

Posted by: tafka | February 9, 2008 7:00 PM | Report abuse

I would rather have Zorn than fossil, but this looks like the Skins we unable to hire a quality HC and settled for this hire. It may even be that fossil turned this job down.

Posted by: kerzon417 | February 9, 2008 7:00 PM | Report abuse

I wonder which unit we'll be calling the "Zorny Toads".

Gonna be interesting.

Posted by: jvwright | February 9, 2008 7:01 PM | Report abuse

Fassel had a better record as Giants head coach than the Redskins coaches have had.

But they took ALLLL this time to pick Jim Zorn. Didn't want Williams, didn't want Fassel, Mariucci, Meeks, Grimm, etc.

Snyder doesn't know jack about football, so it should not inspire confidence that he became infatuated with Jim Zorn.

Posted by: justice98 | February 9, 2008 7:01 PM | Report abuse

Cowher will be the coach in 2009!!!

Posted by: Lo4Siempre | February 9, 2008 7:01 PM | Report abuse

Should be clear on my stance...I LOVE Jim Zorn. He is a remarkably chill dude, very gracious to the fans, and his players love, love, love him. He has paid his dues as a player and coach and deserves all the opportunities that come his way.

My scorn is reserved not for the coach, but for this ridiculous sham of a "leadership" structure. It is absurd how long this has taken, and equally absurd where the Wheel of Fortune landed.

Posted by: PDiddy | February 9, 2008 7:01 PM | Report abuse

If I had any trust in the personnel instincts of Snyder and Cerrato, I'd have no problem with this. It's sort of like Mike Tomlin getting hired by the Steelers, and that seems to have worked out well. Problem is, the Rooneys are football people who know what the heck they are doing. Snyderrato? Not so much.

Good luck Coach Zorn. You're gonna need it.

Posted by: acoberst | February 9, 2008 7:02 PM | Report abuse

I should've threw Danny my resume'. I scored a touchdown in pop warner in '93...that should be good enough for a coaching position in DC eh?

Posted by: sdmdtsu | February 9, 2008 7:02 PM | Report abuse

Here's the thing:

We could have had Greg Williams lead the team with Zorn operating offense. We would have had complete buy in from the players (Williams) and some fresh blood to run a new type of offense (zorn).

Snyder should have given Williams at least a year then go with Zorn the next year if needed.

Can't believe we let Williams go....

Who is the guy zorn?

Posted by: burgundee | February 9, 2008 7:02 PM | Report abuse

WOW! Is that a new record for going from OC to HC!!!!

Posted by: cmann0831 | February 9, 2008 7:03 PM | Report abuse

Word, P.

Posted by: ynotcaruso | February 9, 2008 7:03 PM | Report abuse

it will be interesting to see who gets the oc position. i wonder what the players are thinking

Posted by: ncskin | February 9, 2008 7:06 PM | Report abuse

Chris Mortenson on ESPN just reported he spoke with Danny Boy. They asked Jim Zorn if he wanted to interview for HC after spags pulled out. He impressed them and if you look at the track record of the quarterback coaches who worked under Mike Holgrehm, Anyd Reid, John Gruden, Marty Morningham and someone else I have forgotten have all gone on to be successful. That is the twist he will make at the Press conference and it sounds good. He signed a 5 year deal. Who knows, maybe we will not be too bad off after all???

I still question Danny's ability to lead this team.

Posted by: cangle12 | February 9, 2008 7:06 PM | Report abuse

Jim Zorn:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jim_Zorn

Like I said, he is a really nice guy (not Norv nice, football coach/quarterback nice) and a good man. I've met him several times at charity events here in Seattle. He is going to be great for JC, and he learned the WCO from one of the modern masters, Holmgren. Great choice...for OC. I'm proud and happy for him that he got the big chair, but very surprised.

I'm dying to know all the intrigue, though. Was Zorn the last man standing or something? Did Meeks turn them down? Did Mariucci want Ceratto gone? Did the fan reaction have anything to do with Fassel?

Posted by: PDiddy | February 9, 2008 7:06 PM | Report abuse

Nothing but good things said about Zorn and msot of you think this is not a good one You may be right BUT at the same time look at Seattle's Offense and good they have been since Zorn arrived in 01. Hence look at their Offenseive Personnel? Keep in Mind that he is the one who helped Hasselbeck. We got better receivers rb's and a QB. West Coast O might be a blessing IMO

Posted by: dino1982 | February 9, 2008 7:07 PM | Report abuse

The brightest candidates were Mariucci, Carroll, and Grimm. The only way to get rid of this kid-in-a-sandbox owner is for fans to stay home. Thats it - the only way. If 90,000 idiots keep going to Fed Ex like Pavlov's slobbering dogs, Snyder stays. Its the only way, folks. Thats what its come to. I'm no fair weather fan - I've supported the Skins through thick and thin for 40 years, but theres only one way to get rid of this bug. Don't go.

Posted by: birvin9999 | February 9, 2008 7:07 PM | Report abuse

You R'skin freaks don't deserve Jim Zorn as "your" new head coach. As a Seahawk fan I wish he had stayed in Seattle. He was the first star for the C-hawks as a player was a great addition to the coaching staff when he came back. Holmgren has been snking into retirement for a few years already. It was Zorn that made Hasselbeck a much better player. JZ is smart, exciting, and fun. I wish he had stayed but I wish him the best.

Posted by: TIMJOFRED | February 9, 2008 7:08 PM | Report abuse

Al Koken said it...They was gonna wait till saturday to get a head coach so it would go under the radar...nice call Al!!!

Posted by: Lo4Siempre | February 9, 2008 7:09 PM | Report abuse

The Redskins version of Dave Campo.

Puppet, Puppet, Puppet

First year coach, no previous experience, no legacy to give him confidence to take a stand against Snerrato...

Posted by: p1funk | February 9, 2008 7:10 PM | Report abuse

Newly updated blog preferences for the position of Head Coach:

1) Jim Zorn
2) Cardboard cutouts of dead coaches
3) Russ Grimm
4) Ron Meeks
5) Steve Mariucci
6) Joe Bugel
7) Brian Billick
8) Lane Kiffin
9) Marty Mornhinweg
10) Jimmy Johnson
11) Dennis Green
12) Art Shell
13) Anyone else but Fassel
14 Fassel

Posted by: tafka | February 9, 2008 7:10 PM | Report abuse

Ok, Danny Boy, now are you going to show even the slightest bit of patience? With a new offensive system and greenhorn HC, there's little chance of the Skins exploding out of the starting gate next season. Snyder has to give Zorn at least three seasons for this to have any chance.

And, of course, if they keep redoing everybody's salary and pushing things back, the cap troubles are only going to get worse down the road.

Posted by: acoberst | February 9, 2008 7:10 PM | Report abuse

One of my favorite memories of Zorn is during the pre-game, Zorn would loft these perfect 30-40 yard spirals to the ball boys as his QBs warmed up next to him. You often couldn't tell which guy was the backup and which guy was the coach.

Posted by: PDiddy | February 9, 2008 7:11 PM | Report abuse

Whos is going to be the offensive coordinator then? I agree with someone earlier that we could have had Gwilliams and Zorn, kept players happy and then moved into Zorn Era the following year...Kind of like Dallas, I just hit myself for saying that. WTF - another new offense to learn for JC.

Posted by: mhartz1 | February 9, 2008 7:11 PM | Report abuse

It's a gamble I can live with. There's wasn't much pro offensive coaching talent available. Lots of first/second year OCs... something wrong with others... too old, too young, offenses no good, etc. Given what was out there, Fassel was a logical but crummy choice.

Then, why not Zorn? I like that Zorn is former QB and is NFL-current, NFL-ready, kind of young, and hungry. I like that he's a WC offense devotee. I like that he will get to pick his own OC. I like his name. I like that Blache doesn't have a defensive HC looking over his shoulder... he's good enough w/o that.

Snyder is still a sketchy owner but at least he didn't make the Fassel mistake. Ditto Mooch, Mora, TEN DC, Carroll, D. Green, J. Johnson, and even Cowher. I liked Meeks but Skins have a tradition of being an offensive-oriented team. Except for possibly Grimm, best outcome possible at this point.

Posted by: james7691 | February 9, 2008 7:12 PM | Report abuse

Jasno, are you sure you are not being "Bogarted" here?

Posted by: theduck | February 9, 2008 7:12 PM | Report abuse

My ony concern at this point...Well this up coming season is doomed....main factor being we are already behind all the other teams in terms of getting thing moving for next season.

Posted by: leevi98 | February 9, 2008 7:13 PM | Report abuse

Zorn for a year and next is Cower

Posted by: jstewart48 | February 9, 2008 7:13 PM | Report abuse

"He fell in love" What's up with that??? that's what I'm wondering...maybe they had a slumber party at Danny's place and there Danny, Vinny and Jimmy got in bed together and did things they weren't supposed to...Then Jimmy blackmailed Danny into giving him the job after he gave him the "job" LMFAO!!!

Posted by: Lo4Siempre | February 9, 2008 7:13 PM | Report abuse

Who cares? Danny got his yes man. Welcome to another 5 years of losing! Skins fans send a message back to Danny/Vinny cancel your season tickets!

Posted by: mike1ad | February 9, 2008 7:13 PM | Report abuse

WOW! Is that a new record for going from OC to HC!!!!

Posted by: cmann0831 | February 9, 2008 07:03 PM

Don't worry - Zorn will probably resign on Monday afternoon. (Two days with Vinny as boss should about do it.)

Posted by: tafka | February 9, 2008 7:15 PM | Report abuse

So Cerrato got out of the shower and decided that he had a man-crush on Zorn...why not hire him to be the head coach? After all it's not like Dan Snyder is going to exercise any accountability with him?

Posted by: p1funk | February 9, 2008 7:15 PM | Report abuse

Jlac, any idea who the OC will be...

Posted by: mhartz1 | February 9, 2008 7:15 PM | Report abuse

NBC4 sort of "called" this the other day as well. I forget his name (male sports reporter at 6 pm) jokingly said "the next head coach appears to be coming from within" as video footage played of zorn parking in the HC parking spot at Redskins park. They should take credit for being first with the story!

Posted by: jrickard | February 9, 2008 7:16 PM | Report abuse

BONG!!!!!!!!!

Posted by: leevi98 | February 9, 2008 06:34 PM
----------------------------------

HIT!!!!!!!!!!

(from the gravity bong)

Posted by: Poopy_McPoop | February 9, 2008 06:54 PM

think this news deserves some serious dicussion AGIAN!
SO in light of this news I say BONG!!!!!

Posted by: leevi98 | February 9, 2008 7:16 PM | Report abuse

Let's be real. Snyder is taking a big gamble on a head coach with experience of only two weeks of offensive coordinator in off-season. With Giants, Cowboys and Eagles in same division, we can forget about playoff for few years.

Posted by: shawnp220 | February 9, 2008 7:16 PM | Report abuse

Comcast also reporting that Zorn has been named the Head Coach.

I would like to have seen Grimm, but I have no problem with Zorn as the Head Coach.

Posted by: fgtdr | February 9, 2008 7:17 PM | Report abuse

Every seems to be OK with this b/c "he's not Fassel"...

...that's how low we have sunk, we are actually excited about this hire b/c "at least it's not Fassel"...

...do we realize how pathetic we sound?

I wonder how Joe Gibbs is feeling about his 4-year project here, to know that GG got passed over for a Cerrato-whim on Jim Zorn...

Posted by: p1funk | February 9, 2008 7:18 PM | Report abuse

Who cares? Danny got his yes man. Welcome to another 5 years of losing! Skins fans send a message back to Danny/Vinny cancel your season tickets!

Posted by: mike1ad | February 9, 2008 07:13 PM

I am guessing here but you and all others who are telling people to cancel their tickets...Do actually have season tickets or are you on the waiting list trying to get season tickets?

Posted by: leevi98 | February 9, 2008 7:18 PM | Report abuse

STEVE LARGENT FOR OFFENSIVE COORDINATOR!

Posted by: tafka | February 9, 2008 7:18 PM | Report abuse

I guess no one else wnated the job. Rumor is Fassel told Danny Boy to go pound sand since he was taking so long. ESPN reports that Snyder fell in lust with Zorn during his interview for OC. And decided he should be coach. Damn first ever HC hired because the owner had a man crush on the OC! Wander what Tomkat will say about this!
We alwys knew Danny Boy did all his thinking with his smaller brain. This confirms it. My prediction is Jim ZOrn is fired after game 4 next year and Bugs is named interim coach. Deadskisn lose all their preseason games without scoring any points and score one defensive TD and lose all 4 regular season games before Zorn id fired. Deadskins go the Dolphins one better and finish winless. Bill Clinton offers to take over team if Hill is elected.

Posted by: dave2002ti | February 9, 2008 7:18 PM | Report abuse

Someone just told me that Jason Campbell ran a WCO at Auburn under Al Borges who is a self proclaimed west coast purist. Maybe this is a good thing for JC and the offense....

Posted by: burgundee | February 9, 2008 7:19 PM | Report abuse

Let's be real. Snyder is taking a big gamble on a head coach with experience of only two weeks of offensive coordinator in off-season. With Giants, Cowboys and Eagles in same division, we can forget about playoff for few years.

Posted by: shawnp220 | February 9, 2008 07:16 PM

Playoffs were out the picture for this upcoming season the day that Gibbs retired.

Posted by: leevi98 | February 9, 2008 7:19 PM | Report abuse

With the right OC I'd actually be ok with this.....

And no, I don't know why. Just a gut feeling.

Posted by: eeyeats | February 9, 2008 06:28 PM

Please don't give hope to the hopeless.

We just got the QB coach of Seattle to be the next HC. He never wanted to come here in the first place.

This is beyond the petter principle.

"You are doing such a wonderful job as OC we are going to make you HC"

The "Jerry Jones theory guy" had it right.

Why not just make Saunders the HC.

Posted by: mul | February 9, 2008 7:20 PM | Report abuse

Unbelievable that some of you are already bashing Zorn and saying that we'll suck for the next five years. Give the guy a chance.

Posted by: fgtdr | February 9, 2008 7:20 PM | Report abuse

Please don't let Brian Billick be the OC!

Posted by: ynotcaruso | February 9, 2008 06:58 PM


No truer words have ever been spoken!!

Posted by: Zebraskins | February 9, 2008 7:20 PM | Report abuse

This guy was a QB coach he never ran a team in his life. I can se if he was an Coord. I dont get this but it might work

Posted by: TAIKEI11 | February 9, 2008 7:21 PM | Report abuse

My prediction is Jim ZOrn is fired after game 4 next year and Bugs is named interim coach. Deadskisn lose all their preseason games without scoring any points and score one defensive TD and lose all 4 regular season games before Zorn id fired. Deadskins go the Dolphins one better and finish winless. Bill Clinton offers to take over team if Hill is elected.

Posted by: dave2002ti | February 9, 2008 07:18 PM

I think your going a bit overboard....So your saying that anyone hire dother than Wiallimas the team is doomed....


Whatever!

Posted by: leevi98 | February 9, 2008 7:21 PM | Report abuse

Well, well, well: Fassell once again left standing at the altar by Danny boy.

But how about that: Zorn goes from QB coach to HC of the Washington Redskins. But I thought they said Spags, a Super Bowl winning D coordinator wasn't ready yet to be a head coach? Hmmm.

Well, Mr. Zorn, from what I have heard, you are a great guy and a good coach. I hope you realize, of course, that you are a place holder for one year until Cowher is ready to come back.

Great good luck to you. I hope you get lots of money and carefully secure it in sound investments. You will need it. Also, I hope your reputation as a coach won't be permanently destroyed by working for Napoleon Snyder and Vinny Stugotz. Oh, and one other thing: the fans aren't going to give you any slack after this fiasco of getting rid of GW to bring you in: you had better deliver from the jump.

Oh, and by the way, fellow fans: don't think for a minute that our outrage over Fassell wasn't determinative in Snyder not hiring him. Hail to the Redskins and to their fans: the best in the NFL.

Posted by: piovino1 | February 9, 2008 7:21 PM | Report abuse

This proves that Dan Snyder knows absolutely nothing about football, the problem with this organization is the owner, do us all a favor Dan and sell the team!

Posted by: pquick6165 | February 9, 2008 7:21 PM | Report abuse

Well it's better than Fassell, but I still think they should have hired GG.

But hey, Zorn must have done a hell of a job in those two long weeks as an offensive coordinator...

Posted by: rawk | February 9, 2008 7:22 PM | Report abuse

Someone just told me that Jason Campbell ran a WCO at Auburn under Al Borges who is a self proclaimed west coast purist. Maybe this is a good thing for JC and the offense....

Posted by: burgundee

WTF he was in 4 offenses in college, 2 now 3 in the NFL. This is in know way good.

Saunders was doing a good job needed another year.

Zorn might have been a good HC but with VinnyDan there is no chance after next year.

Posted by: mul | February 9, 2008 7:22 PM | Report abuse

Fassel the jilted lover :(

Posted by: david | February 9, 2008 7:22 PM | Report abuse

First Really Bad Sign:

Cerrato in particular - "fell in love with him"


WTF? "fell in love with him"

Posted by: tomfoley1 | February 9, 2008 7:23 PM | Report abuse

AL BORGES FOR OFFENSIVE COORDINATOR!

http://www.trackemtigers.com/story/2008/1/25/7859/79792

Posted by: tafka | February 9, 2008 7:23 PM | Report abuse

"We fell in love with Jim Zorn."

What Danny and Vinny mean is that this was the only candidate they could find that would be willing to cede total control to them.

What a joke. On a Saturday night, no less.

Posted by: ovyscaps | February 9, 2008 7:24 PM | Report abuse

I think some are going a bit off the deepend when it comes to Zorn....

Yes this is a surprise but claiming he will suck because he has never been a HC or Cord. in the NFL is a bit over the top...Poeple hire coaches from the college ranks as head coaches who have never been a HC or Cord in the NFL all the time....The important fact is..this guy has been in the NFL coaching and playing for over a decade...I'd say he has a bit more experience coaching in the NFL than a college guy...but we shall see....who knows...we might have gotten lucky and found a gem...We dont know yet

Posted by: leevi98 | February 9, 2008 7:25 PM | Report abuse

Snyder knows exactly what he is doing and Zorn agrees to hold the HC pos. for a year and Zorn goes back to QB coach and Cower steps in as HC


whatever happens i'm still a fan i hope for the best

Posted by: jstewart48 | February 9, 2008 7:26 PM | Report abuse

I am rooting for Jim Zorn, even though I don't know much about him. I have to say, however, that the phrase "(Cerrato) fell in love with him" does not exactly inspire confidence that Zorn was the right choice.

Posted by: mrb1onde | February 9, 2008 7:26 PM | Report abuse

Fassel's gotta feel played! This is the second time in 4 years Snyder/Vinny "almost" hired him and found another suiter to "fall in love" with.

Posted by: Alan4 | February 9, 2008 7:27 PM | Report abuse

There are a few reasons I Like this better than JF. Zorn is young, a prospect at HC, kinda like Joe was 80 years ago. I like a ex QB as HC to teach JC. Finally I like the idea of a West Coast Offense.

Posted by: alex35332 | February 9, 2008 7:27 PM | Report abuse

Danny hired Zorn to be his yes man for one year and will buy him out of the remaining years on his contract so he can hire Cower next year. However Danny had better be careful because Ringling Bros has exclusive rights and is supposed to be the only circus in town.

Posted by: gordonsouthall | February 9, 2008 7:27 PM | Report abuse

I really can't wait to hear them spin this on Monday. And I really can't wait to hear the backstory.

Man, what a bunch of bumbling idiots.

Posted by: PDiddy | February 9, 2008 7:27 PM | Report abuse

ya know the REAL funny twist will be when Jim Fassel gets another HC job elsewhere ina year or two and then end sup winning the superbowl..Thats when you jump off a bridge!!! LOL

Posted by: leevi98 | February 9, 2008 7:27 PM | Report abuse

F U Vinny

F U Dan

Saturday after 5:00, 3 day weekend, you spineless Sihts.

Posted by: mul | February 9, 2008 7:28 PM | Report abuse

Posted by: tafka | February 9, 2008 7:28 PM | Report abuse

I am thinking that all of the fan outburst had something to do with this.

Snyder was all lined up to name Fassel. Then came the backlash. SO the decision was made to wait for the superbowl coaches and intereview them. Let williams and Saunders go, hire Fassels choice in coaches. So this whole time they were trying to find another HC who would deal with these coaches already in place.

None did, so Snyder said it was either Fassel or Zorn.

If that was the case he made the right choice.

Posted by: Zebraskins | February 9, 2008 7:28 PM | Report abuse

No matter how they spin this it just goes to show that Vinny and Snyder had no idea what they were doing heading into this search.

Posted by: david | February 9, 2008 7:29 PM | Report abuse

"Determined to make the right choice, Snyder was deliberate in his process, conducting exhausting research on each candidate and multiple interviews with several. Meanwhile, he took the unusual step of selecting offensive and defensive coordinators -- hiring Zorn away from the Seahawks and promoting defensive line coach Greg Blache -- before putting a head coach in place."

the spin from MSNBC - exhaustive in his process my a$%s!

Although, it will be exciting to see - I was against hiring Gibbs, I wanted young blood, someone for the future, not someone from the past. I'm sorry for the other folks who got yanked around by Danny, who must be making up for some deficiencies somewhere by being a megalomaniac. But it will be fun to see the offense now.

Posted by: plantlady1 | February 9, 2008 7:29 PM | Report abuse

What the...? Wow, just hire Mooch as OC and were good to go...in crazy world.

Posted by: robertcherryiii | February 9, 2008 7:29 PM | Report abuse

AP - Jim Fassel Named District Manager for Quiznos in Arizona and New Mexico (Details to follow)

Posted by: tafka | February 9, 2008 7:30 PM | Report abuse

I have to agree this has been totally bizarre.

I wish Jim Zorn well. He seems like a good guy.

I can live with watching the growing pains of a new offense; I just hope our defense doesn't revert back to the late 90's/early 2000s, when people marched up and down the field on us at will.

There is nothing more frustrating than watching that.

Seems like it would have made more sense to let GG coach and Zorn run the O.

Oh, well.

Posted by: MrRedskin21 | February 9, 2008 7:30 PM | Report abuse

You R'skin freaks don't deserve Jim Zorn as "your" new head coach. As a Seahawk fan I wish he had stayed in Seattle. He was the first star for the C-hawks as a player was a great addition to the coaching staff when he came back. Holmgren has been snking into retirement for a few years already. It was Zorn that made Hasselbeck a much better player. JZ is smart, exciting, and fun. I wish he had stayed but I wish him the best.

Posted by: TIMJOFRED | February 9, 2008 07:08 PM

F off dick. Go troll your own site

Posted by: scampbell1975 | February 9, 2008 7:30 PM | Report abuse

Had they made this move a month ago I would have been somewhat impressed that they tapped a young up and coming coach. The way it played out however indicates they painted themselves into a corner in typical amateurish fashion. He seems like a good guy and everything I've read about indicates he could be the right move. I wish him luck; he's working for the worst hands-on owner in the NFL.

Posted by: mack1 | February 9, 2008 7:30 PM | Report abuse

Lets not take our hate for Dan and Vinny out on JZ, give him a chance guys!

Posted by: ynotcaruso | February 9, 2008 7:31 PM | Report abuse

First off, let go of the Williams thing. Despite his success, he clearly rubbed some the wrong way, and Snyder did not see him being a successful head coach - and he might actually be right about that. A great Senator does not always make a great President.

Also, is it feasible that Snyder might have hired Zorn away from another opportunity so he could keep him in contention for the head coach job, knowing that he'd still work as the OC?

Posted by: grahamj | February 9, 2008 7:31 PM | Report abuse

Neal to lord Zorn.

That is fantastic.

I am pro Zorn.

Snyder you are a stupid monkey, and predictable. I knew you were going to 'DC' this story you Bit*h.

Posted by: mul | February 9, 2008 7:31 PM | Report abuse

Typical Danny move. Hires and OC then a DC without an HC. Then talks to himself that he know talent evaluators and talks himself into believing Zorn will keep the fan base happy.

It's a sexy Napoleon pick and quite likely to end up being Coach Visor Part II. There is a reason the DL coach became HC of the Lions - Marinelli was in demand. Zorn didn't draw interest from other teams to be their OC (even in Seattle) for a reason. The Danny bus continues its descent into the valley and will only emerge when Napoleon decides to sell the team.

Posted by: Leofwine | February 9, 2008 7:32 PM | Report abuse

AP reporting that the press conference is at 3pm Sunday. I can't believe the NFL will let them upstage the Pro Bowl, but whatever.

I now know what Saints fans during the paper bag era felt...

Posted by: PDiddy | February 9, 2008 7:32 PM | Report abuse

Give the guy a chance hope for the best you never know

Posted by: jstewart48 | February 9, 2008 7:33 PM | Report abuse

If this is true, then it really makes you wonder, doesn't it?

Posted by: driley | February 9, 2008 7:34 PM | Report abuse

If Snyder would have done this a few years ago by now we would have a young super bowl coach

Posted by: jstewart48 | February 9, 2008 7:35 PM | Report abuse

Maybe all the other coaching candidates (including the original D-Line coach candidate) turned Snyder down over salary issues. Seems logical that Fassel, Mooch, Meeks might have all thought there was a really big payday here.

They probably signed Zorn for something like 5 years at $2-3 million/year.

Posted by: tafka | February 9, 2008 7:35 PM | Report abuse

scambell; look at the guys name... Tim Jo Fred... just an ignit hillbilly... (and b4 the hillbillys jump on me for this joke, both of my parent grew up on working farms.)

Also flag on the play Timjofred, for using the nickname C-HAWKS... hawks is lame enough. 10 yd epenalty and loss of downs

Posted by: Zebraskins | February 9, 2008 7:35 PM | Report abuse

Great job JLC!

I am really happy with this. I am a big Zorn guy and always have been. I did not see this coming at all, but trust me, he is a really good coach. I feel really good about this hire.

Posted by: snelling | February 9, 2008 7:36 PM | Report abuse

You R'skin freaks don't deserve Jim Zorn as "your" new head coach. As a Seahawk fan I wish he had stayed in Seattle. He was the first star for the C-hawks as a player was a great addition to the coaching staff when he came back. Holmgren has been snking into retirement for a few years already. It was Zorn that made Hasselbeck a much better player. JZ is smart, exciting, and fun. I wish he had stayed but I wish him the best.

Posted by: TIMJOFRED | February 9, 2008 07:08 PM

F off dick. Go troll your own site

Posted by: scampbell1975 | February 9, 2008 07:30 PM


Best post of the night, that might be the quote from Fassell to Danny Boy. I definitely did not want Fassell but I feel a small bit of pity for him getting screwed twice by Snyder. I am not thrilled with Zorn but will support him full throttle. It will be interesting to see how the players take to this.

Posted by: stivic | February 9, 2008 7:37 PM | Report abuse

I hope we all eat our words and we are a super bowl contender next year

Posted by: jstewart48 | February 9, 2008 7:37 PM | Report abuse

Byner for OC

Posted by: alex35332 | February 9, 2008 7:37 PM | Report abuse

Press release from the Skins...guess the Times got it before the Post....

http://video1.washingtontimes.com/redskins/

Posted by: Lisa_R | February 9, 2008 7:40 PM | Report abuse

Zorn was a starting QB in the league for many years. I can't imagine the players would have any problems with a guy like that. (Zorn has "been there, done that").

Posted by: tafka | February 9, 2008 7:40 PM | Report abuse

Byner for OC

Posted by: alex35332 | February 9, 2008 07:37 PM

Wouldn't that be something.

Posted by: scampbell1975 | February 9, 2008 7:41 PM | Report abuse

Welcome to DC Zorn. I wish you the best. Do yourself a favor though and keep a close eye out for Vinny Cerrato...that dudes way beyond any other creep you'll encounter while here...uuugh.

Cerrato in particular - "fell in love with him"

Posted by: tomfoley1 | February 9, 2008 7:41 PM | Report abuse

from ground level job[qb coach]to oc,to head coach in thirty days.he won the dc lottery.like hef withsilk pajamas.i saw him on nbc 4 on thursday or friday parked in coach gibbs spot,then he moved, maybe that should have been a sign.an easy one to fire next year.ugh

Posted by: DLESMonday | February 9, 2008 7:41 PM | Report abuse

Zeese, calm down brother... I dont think EB is OC material just yet. He doesn't know the WC offense.

I dont think we will hire an OC. Isnt that how Holmgren does it?

Posted by: Zebraskins | February 9, 2008 7:41 PM | Report abuse

OK, I like the hire --- hope it all works out. Good Luck Jim Zorn.

Posted by: bestmick1 | February 9, 2008 7:44 PM | Report abuse

Com'on people, you all were calling for something original, not a retread or "the guy everyone else" wants, well we got him! I like this hire, don't like how the process went, but that's our Danny Boy.

Byner was the first name I had for my wife and son when they asked who the OC would be. That would be good, could still work with the same offesive terminology with Zorn's WC philosophy, what a mix that could be! I heard Cooley on the radio the other day from the ProBowl and he sounded like he REALLY liked Zorn, trusted him already.

I am pretty fired up!

Also, it's quite possible that Zorn is just a take a shot guy with someone else(Spags, Cowher, whoever) in mind for next year if things don't go well. That should have been GW if that is the case, but I guess we'll see, HAIL!!!!!!!!

Posted by: craig2 | February 9, 2008 7:45 PM | Report abuse

There is a God! The Redskins will have the most complete and forwarding looking member of the organization they ever had!

Posted by: dean.carlson | February 9, 2008 7:45 PM | Report abuse

Superbowl Champion Giant fan here again...so let me get this straight...you guys are HAPPY you just hired a guy who has been a QUARTERBACKS COACH for SIX YEARS?!?! Not once got a sniff for an OC job let alone a HC job...and you would rather have him over a two time Coach of the Year-winning record, been to playoffs 4 time and took an average team to the Super Bowl in Fassel? Hope you guys are happy..all your ridiculous yapping ...you guys just sandbagged you own team...talk about the tail wagging the dog...Snyder is a complete goof....looking forward to playing you guys next year...Jim Zorn, hilarious! and it only took 32 days!

Posted by: gregf | February 9, 2008 7:46 PM | Report abuse

"I appreciate our fans' patience during this process.

What patience? Most of us were ready to crucify the front office.

Posted by: scampbell1975 | February 9, 2008 7:46 PM | Report abuse

ok harbaugh in Baltimore was a Defensive backs coach in Philly. So its not a big deal if a QB coach gets promoted

Posted by: signicolls_03 | February 9, 2008 7:46 PM | Report abuse

Zorn will hire Fossil as his offensive cordinator lol. WTF I am so confused. Are u telling me this guy was a better coaching canidate than Meeks Mooch Grimm Saunders Williams I cant see how. Help me with this guys has there ever been an assistant coach I.E not a cordinator that became a head coach. I have no idea but i can definrtly say this has been one strange month. I guess if Danny wanted to keep us surprised he gets an A for this one i dont think anyone saw this coming.

Posted by: outlaw22 | February 9, 2008 7:46 PM | Report abuse

Guess this is for real...Breaking news alert about this on ESPN NFL main page....

http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/index

Posted by: leevi98 | February 9, 2008 7:46 PM | Report abuse

congrats on the scoop jasons! and cindy! good job!

Posted by: dealer | February 9, 2008 7:47 PM | Report abuse

Superbowl Champion Giant fan here again...so let me get this straight...you guys are HAPPY you just hired a guy who has been a QUARTERBACKS COACH for SIX YEARS?!?! Not once got a sniff for an OC job let alone a HC job...and you would rather have him over a two time Coach of the Year-winning record, been to playoffs 4 time and took an average team to the Super Bowl in Fassel? Hope you guys are happy..all your ridiculous yapping ...you guys just sandbagged you own team...talk about the tail wagging the dog...Snyder is a complete goof....looking forward to playing you guys next year...Jim Zorn, hilarious! and it only took 32 days!

Posted by: gregf | February 9, 2008 07:46 PM

F you too dick. Would rather have daffy duck than some retread Giants reject from the bottom of the barrell. Go troll your own site.

Posted by: scampbell1975 | February 9, 2008 7:47 PM | Report abuse

At this point all of skins nation can bemoan or hail this move. It really doesnt matter now. The cards are dealt.

One thing is for certain, for the first time since Danny has owned the team, there is a GM, kind of, and a new, young, NFL experienced HC.

So I will go along for the ride to see what happens. Maybe Vinny isnt such a tool of Danny's. He is on the hot seat now, maybe since he isnt playing with house money, he will make good decisions.

I cannot completely bash him, we have some good draft picks in the fold over the last couple of years.

Should be interesting to say the least

Posted by: Zebraskins | February 9, 2008 7:48 PM | Report abuse

"Dan and Vinny worked extremely hard on this process, and their research and diligence paid off after many long nights and hard hours. They're to be congratulated for that," Gibbs said.

Okay, Snyder - give that man his final year's check. That will be $5 million dollars, please.

Ka-ching!

Posted by: tafka | February 9, 2008 7:48 PM | Report abuse

Posted by: gregf | February 9, 2008 07:46 PM

We're looking forward to seeing you too sh!tbag. Just like our late season game.

Posted by: scampbell1975 | February 9, 2008 7:49 PM | Report abuse

"Jim Zorn, a veteran coach of 20 years and a renowned former NFL quarterback"

you know what guys...the more I think about this the more this hire appeals to me..getting a guy under the radar so to speak...i mean with 20 years as a coach and QB in the NFL....I think this guy might know what he is doing...this might work

Posted by: leevi98 | February 9, 2008 7:51 PM | Report abuse

Great job JLC!

I am really happy with this. I am a big Zorn guy and always have been. I did not see this coming at all, but trust me, he is a really good coach. I feel really good about this hire.

Posted by: snelling | February 9, 2008 07:36 PM

Does Zorn mean something that I don't know about.

Posted by: mul | February 9, 2008 7:51 PM | Report abuse

All the talks with Fassel were to negotiate the Quizno's platter at Zorn's press conference.

Posted by: curtmcgurt | February 9, 2008 7:53 PM | Report abuse

Superbowl Champion Giant fan here again...so let me get this straight...you guys are HAPPY you just hired a guy who has been a QUARTERBACKS COACH for SIX YEARS?!?! Not once got a sniff for an OC job let alone a HC job...and you would rather have him over a two time Coach of the Year-winning record, been to playoffs 4 time and took an average team to the Super Bowl in Fassel? Hope you guys are happy..all your ridiculous yapping ...you guys just sandbagged you own team...talk about the tail wagging the dog...Snyder is a complete goof....looking forward to playing you guys next year...Jim Zorn, hilarious! and it only took 32 days!

Posted by: gregf | February 9, 2008 07:46 PM

gregf (Greg Fassel), how's it going fella? Don't worry, your Pop will find a job... eventually!

Posted by: Alan4 | February 9, 2008 7:53 PM | Report abuse

"Jim Zorn, a veteran coach of 20 years and a renowned former NFL quarterback"

you know what guys...the more I think about this the more this hire appeals to me..getting a guy under the radar so to speak...i mean with 20 years as a coach and QB in the NFL....I think this guy might know what he is doing...this might work

Posted by: leevi98 | February 9, 2008 07:51 PM

Are you joking?

You are being ironic right?

Posted by: mul | February 9, 2008 7:54 PM | Report abuse

F you too dick. Would rather have daffy duck than some retread Giants reject from the bottom of the barrell. Go troll your own site.

Posted by: scampbell1975 | February 9, 2008 07:47 PM

Mr. Campbell-apparently that "daffy duck retread" knows what he is doing as his choice for OC turns out being your HC! You couldn't make this up it is so funny...

Posted by: gregf | February 9, 2008 7:54 PM | Report abuse

p1funk,
Gibbs is actually thrilled about this hiring (I write this sarcastically). He is quoted more than anyone on the press release regarding the hiring of Zorn. It should have read "Joe Gibbs fashions press release concerning the hiring of Zorn."

"I'm also extremely excited about the fact that Dan has maintained such stability and continuity among the staff. Not just the coaches, but also the entire infrastructure--strength coaches, medical staff, and others--that is required to maintain chemistry on a team," Gibbs said.

Snyder siphons quotes from Gibbs to dull the negative response from the fans...It is SO effing annoying. I have lost respect for Gibbs during this process.

Posted by: lhaydengraphics | February 9, 2008 7:55 PM | Report abuse

Posted by: tafka | February 9, 2008 7:55 PM | Report abuse

Sorry Zebra you know I get excited.

Posted by: alex35332 | February 9, 2008 7:56 PM | Report abuse

with the salary cap numbers i think some purging is in order. also it'll take some pressure off of a young virgin HC...

Posted by: dealer | February 9, 2008 7:58 PM | Report abuse

Williams for Zorn!!!????%$?#??%^ Despite what anyone thinks about Williams' gruff nature, Snyder treated the man unprofessionally and lost the team. Williams deserved a shot. All the time spent developing something gets blown up just like the last playoff team when they got rid of Harris, Arrington, Pierce, and Clark. I guess it's a recurring theme--win and destroy.

Do us all a favor Mr. Snyder; just go away. The entire league thinks the Skins organiztion is a joke. I agree.

Posted by: weldonhill | February 9, 2008 7:58 PM | Report abuse

Does this make sense to anyone else? I had to stop reading peeps crappy whinings, so forgive me if this already said.

Zorn for coordinator. Why not for 1 year? Everyone on the staff is a stop gap until the real coach arrives. NEXT YEAR.

Cowar is the targeted coach, and if they had kept the current system in place, and performed at a high level, there would have been a revolt next season when they all got canned. This way, it is no big deal if they all get let go. There are no strong ties to any of these guys.

Cower Power

Posted by: ewwsombra | February 9, 2008 7:58 PM | Report abuse

Mr. Campbell-apparently that "daffy duck retread" knows what he is doing as his choice for OC turns out being your HC! You couldn't make this up it is so funny...

Posted by: gregf | February 9, 2008 07:54 PM

Prove that. This is the same guy that was fired by his best friend.

Posted by: scampbell1975 | February 9, 2008 8:00 PM | Report abuse

mul, leevie98 would have thought it was a great move if Snyder/Cerrato hired Burt Reynolds for his role in The Longest Yard.

It may turn out to be fine, if we're lucky. But it's beyond a doubt the Skins have dysfunctional ownership starting with Snyder and Cerrato.

Posted by: Alan4 | February 9, 2008 8:00 PM | Report abuse

And I also really don't understand why they didn't hire Fassel. The negative reaction after it was leaked that he was being hired was NOT against Fassel. It was against Snyder NOT hiring Grilliams.

Posted by: lhaydengraphics | February 9, 2008 8:00 PM | Report abuse

Now it makes a little more sense. Zorn as HC, and brings in one of his guys to be OC and call plays. I feel much better about the offense now, then I would have if we had hired Meeks or Spags. Defense will be fine, and now Zorn can actually bring in some guys who know how to run his defense.

Posted by: drbatchelor | February 9, 2008 8:01 PM | Report abuse

DISASTER. Just when I thought it couldn't get worse than Fassel, we get a QB coach who has never been a coordinator to be our head coach. Snyder really has outdone himself.

What a disaster. I am speechless. It is embarrassing to hire Zorn to be OC, then you promote him to HC in two weeks because you couldn't get the guy or guys you want.

Well Snyder is making a splash alright. What a circus.

And how do you feel if you are Fassel? I didn't want Fassel, but he was totally screwed over by Snyder just to be left at the altar a second time. No wonder Snyder has trouble getting the coaches he wants anymore.

Gregg Williams and Al Saunders are laughing about this I am sure

Posted by: skinsfan1234 | February 9, 2008 8:01 PM | Report abuse

F SNYDER!

F VINNY!

F FASSEL!

No, it was against Fassel too. No one wanted that 2-time loser from the Giants.

Posted by: tafka | February 9, 2008 8:03 PM | Report abuse

And I also really don't understand why they didn't hire Fassel. The negative reaction after it was leaked that he was being hired was NOT against Fassel. It was against Snyder NOT hiring Grilliams.

Posted by: lhaydengraphics | February 9, 2008 08:00 PM

Read it again, it was against all three: Snyderatto and Fassel. (I guess that's really only two, maybe 1.5)

Posted by: scampbell1975 | February 9, 2008 8:03 PM | Report abuse

DISASTER. Just when I thought it couldn't get worse than Fassel, we get a QB coach who has never been a coordinator to be our head coach. Snyder really has outdone himself

Posted by: skinsfan1234 | February 9, 2008 08:01 PM

Just remember, Andy Reid was a qb coach under Holmgren turned HC and he did pretty well witha a not so good team.

Posted by: scampbell1975 | February 9, 2008 8:05 PM | Report abuse

No, it was against Fassel too. No one wanted that 2-time loser from the Giants.

Posted by: tafka | February 9, 2008 08:03 PM

Right on Tafka.. I mean don't get me wrong I hate Snyder more than Fassel but I hate em all.

Posted by: alex35332 | February 9, 2008 8:05 PM | Report abuse

5 years 15 million dollars.
Good work if you can get it!

Posted by: puttinforbird | February 9, 2008 8:05 PM | Report abuse

Snyder has officially lost his mind.

I'm not sure Zorn will win a single game next year. I'm not sure he'll even make it through the season.

Posted by: info | February 9, 2008 8:06 PM | Report abuse

I find it extremely amusing that people can not let go the the Cowar/Cower (its Cowher) head coaching idea. The guy wants to coach on a team where he has more authority than he would ever be given here.

Can't say I am amped about the Zorn hiring but do like it better than Fassel. The guy played in the league and I am sure learned plenty about running a team from Holmgren. Lets give the guy a shot, maybe some new blood is what this team needs.

Posted by: cdubb | February 9, 2008 8:06 PM | Report abuse

And what was old man joe doing in the 80's before he got the job.

Posted by: alex35332 | February 9, 2008 8:07 PM | Report abuse

Everyone that is worried about how the players will take it dont worry. One the players are professionals and will play for the coach. Second, although he was a QB coach and never a OC the players may not respect his coaching credintials with the huge jump from QB coach to HC but as a former player he will have instant respect because the players will respect someone who has been on the field in battle before. This was a suprise but I am all for it I think this will turn out great for Zorn and the Redskins.

Posted by: murraysdaman10 | February 9, 2008 8:07 PM | Report abuse

And what was old man joe doing in the 80's before he got the job.

Posted by: alex35332 | February 9, 2008 08:07 PM

Thank You!

Posted by: scampbell1975 | February 9, 2008 8:08 PM | Report abuse

Coordiator is not the prequisite for head coach, and there are several success stories to show that. And for all of the whining here about not hiring an experienced guy with proven experience as a coordinator or head coach, people quickly forget how well that has worked out for us before.

Posted by: grahamj | February 9, 2008 8:08 PM | Report abuse

Let's all hope that Dan and Vinny learned a little something from Spags' interview, and now go out and draft a starter DE in the 1st round and then some O-Line guys in the draft.

Posted by: tafka | February 9, 2008 8:09 PM | Report abuse

Willaims and Saunder are probably laughing about this over a beer right now.

Gibbs is probably at church saying 100 Hail Mary's....

Posted by: Alan4 | February 9, 2008 8:09 PM | Report abuse

It has happened, so lets get behind Zorn. We need to support him. This may be his chance to be a great head coach. He is great at working with the most esential piece of a football team. the QUARTERBACK!!!

Let the ZORNISM reign begin!!!
HTTR

Posted by: fbailey | February 9, 2008 8:09 PM | Report abuse

Everyone that is worried about how the players will take it dont worry. One the players are professionals and will play for the coach. Second, although he was a QB coach and never a OC the players may not respect his coaching credintials with the huge jump from QB coach to HC but as a former player he will have instant respect because the players will respect someone who has been on the field in battle before. This was a suprise but I am all for it I think this will turn out great for Zorn and the Redskins.

Posted by: murraysdaman10 | February 9, 2008 08:07 PM


True that. He took his sacks and won and lost games as a man on the field. That says allot for some players.

Posted by: alex35332 | February 9, 2008 8:10 PM | Report abuse

In celebration of this momentus occasion I propose that February 9 shall henceforth be known as "Not Jim Fassel Day"!

Posted by: Original_etrod | February 9, 2008 8:11 PM | Report abuse

The only organization more misrun is the Raiders. They really don't deserve success.

Posted by: freegatorz | February 9, 2008 8:12 PM | Report abuse

By the way having a Coach with a last name that sounds like a Sci-Fi super villain freaking sweet.

Posted by: alex35332 | February 9, 2008 8:12 PM | Report abuse

All I am saying is that when we offered Zorn the OC position he went back to Seattle and tried to negotiate it so he would be the OC when Holmgren left.

He was on no other team's radar screen for an OC or HC position.

Snyder hired him because Spags and Mora said no. Snyder couldn't work with Gregg Williams and couldn'tget Cowher.

I hope that Zorn is a diamond in the rough and that he has just been overlooked by the other 31 teams. Judging by the fact that Snyder/Ceratto made the decision forgive me if I fear for the worst

Posted by: skinsfan1234 | February 9, 2008 8:13 PM | Report abuse

true f bailey, lets not be like philly who boo's santa and gets on their team at the slightest mistake. How has that worked out for them? 0 rings.

Sorry Adam

Posted by: Zebraskins | February 9, 2008 8:13 PM | Report abuse

It just gets weirder and weirder. Hire someone as an OC, fail to be able to find a HC, then promote the OC to HC and declare you "fell in love" with him. Nothing like putting the fun in dysfunctional.

Who knows if Zorn will or will not work out, but watching this process does inspire confidence for how future decisions are/will be made in the Snyderatto era.

Adam

Posted by: eaglesfanadam | February 9, 2008 8:13 PM | Report abuse

Gibbs didn't go straight fro QB coach to HC:

Gibbs began his career with a stint as offensive line coach at San Diego State under Coryell (1964-1966). He held the same position at Florida State (1967-1968) before serving under John McKay at Southern California (1969-1970) and Frank Broyles at Arkansas (1971-1972). Gibbs then rose up to the National Football League, hired as the offensive backfield coach for the St. Louis Cardinals (1973-1977) by head coach Don Coryell. After a season as offensive coordinator for the Tampa Bay Buccaneers (1978) under McKay, Gibbs rejoined Coryell with the San Diego Chargers (1979-1980).

As the offensive coordinator for San Diego, Gibbs spearheaded the highly successful "Air Coryell" offense.

Posted by: Alan4 | February 9, 2008 8:13 PM | Report abuse

Hey, anybody heard of Andy Reid? He was "just" A QBs coach. He hasn't done such a bad job in Philly, Cowher was "just" specail teams coach, and most of you idiots want him now, give me a break!

Go Skins, Coach Jim Zorn, a "Zorn" in the NFC's collective side.

WooHOoo!!

Posted by: craig2 | February 9, 2008 8:14 PM | Report abuse

"Twice in recent days the Redskins contacted Jim Fassel to tell him they were about to move forward, but never reached the contract stage, league sources said, which in the end turned out to be a stall tactic."

You have to believe that Fassel has permanently blocked Snyder's and Vinny's phone numbers by now.

Posted by: tafka | February 9, 2008 8:16 PM | Report abuse

Let the Zornisms begin: Ill start first

the head coach will field a Zornicopia of hard hitters!

Posted by: Tyler84101 | February 9, 2008 8:18 PM | Report abuse

ZORNISM
ZORNISM
ZORNISM

Posted by: fbailey | February 9, 2008 8:18 PM | Report abuse

true f bailey, lets not be like philly who boo's santa and gets on their team at the slightest mistake. How has that worked out for them? 0 rings.

Sorry Adam

Posted by: Zebraskins | February 9, 2008 08:13 PM

No offense taken and I agree that at this point you've got to hope for the best. However, do you feel very good about this "process"?

Adam

Posted by: eaglesfanadam | February 9, 2008 8:18 PM | Report abuse

b e e p

Posted by: tafka | February 9, 2008 8:20 PM | Report abuse

Zorn in the USA.

Posted by: Original_etrod | February 9, 2008 8:20 PM | Report abuse

I don't know if anyone has posted this. It's a press release done today about the hiring of Zorn. It's a good read for us 'Skins fans. Check it out:

http://video1.washingtontimes.com/redskins/

Posted by: jon | February 9, 2008 8:20 PM | Report abuse

At least Zorn is an unknown so he may like Cowher or Payton, come from nowhere and really work out. Fassel or Dennis Geen were never going to work out. Snyder is still an idiot though. Hiring a guy two days after you hired him for another position, not even on the radar. This may work out but each year passes and we find ways to be made more and more ridiculous. You'll see like ten years from now Danny will pull a Jordan and go from owner to coach and hire himself. I can see the press release now, "Long time fan becomes owner, becomes coach, vows to make the 'Skins better each day." At least we have all but one of our draft picks.

Posted by: ssh1549 | February 9, 2008 8:21 PM | Report abuse

Hey, anybody heard of Andy Reid? He was "just" A QBs coach. He hasn't done such a bad job in Philly, Cowher was "just" specail teams coach

Posted by: craig2 | February 9, 2008 08:14 PM

What you say is true, so Zorn could work out, but Reid and Cowher were hired to be head coaches from the get go. They weren't hired to be offensive coordinators and then elevated to HC seemingly because the FO suddenly realized they couldn't fill a HC vacancy.

Blind squirrels occasionally find nuts, but it doesn't happen all that often. Even if Zorn is a good HC, will Danny and Vinny make enough intelligent decisions to give him a fighting chance in the NFC East?

Adam

Posted by: eaglesfanadam | February 9, 2008 8:23 PM | Report abuse

I like that too!!!

ZORN IN THE USA, YOU WISHED YOU WERE
ZORN IN THE USA, YOU DON'T WANT TO PLAY
ZORN IN THE USA, REDSKINS BACK ON TOP
ZORN IN THE USA

Posted by: fbailey | February 9, 2008 8:29 PM | Report abuse

stop all this negitive talk.this guy will be the BEST coach ever.redskins fans,get used to superbowls every year from here on out.YOU will all fall in love with him.He comes from the greatest tree in the history of the nfl.Just look what andy ried has done in philly!!not to mention he his one of the best dinner guests you could find in the world!and what an interview!perfect
thanks,danny S.

Posted by: DLESMonday | February 9, 2008 8:30 PM | Report abuse

AT first I was furious, but I might be okay with this.

-Ricky Bobby

Posted by: johnw | February 9, 2008 8:39 PM | Report abuse

I like this hire! Zorn is offensive minded and Blatche was responsible for 60% of the defenses game plan. Who will be the OC- that is the million dollar question. Fassel and Jim might work well together!

Posted by: jamesjb32 | February 9, 2008 8:48 PM | Report abuse

Jim Zorn has won as many superbowls as head coach as Andy Reid

Posted by: skinsfan1234 | February 9, 2008 8:50 PM | Report abuse

Hopefully Brittany Spears will be able to get her life back together soon. It is a sad situation.

Posted by: gmr4874 | February 9, 2008 9:13 PM | Report abuse

Th NAME GAME has bad Karma

Zorn Zorn bo born
Banana fanna foe forn
Me my mo MOURN!!!!
Zorn

Just sayin'

Posted by: corkczar | February 9, 2008 9:32 PM | Report abuse

Gibbs didn't go straight fro QB coach to HC:

Gibbs began his career with a stint as offensive line coach at San Diego State under Coryell (1964-1966). He held the same position at Florida State (1967-1968) before serving under John McKay at Southern California (1969-1970) and Frank Broyles at Arkansas (1971-1972). Gibbs then rose up to the National Football League, hired as the offensive backfield coach for the St. Louis Cardinals (1973-1977) by head coach Don Coryell. After a season as offensive coordinator for the Tampa Bay Buccaneers (1978) under McKay, Gibbs rejoined Coryell with the San Diego Chargers (1979-1980).

As the offensive coordinator for San Diego, Gibbs spearheaded the highly successful "Air Coryell" offense.


Posted by: Alan4 | February 9, 2008 08:13 PM

Alan4...tell us something we DON't already know....If you want to be negative about everything the team does...Thta is your right....But on a post earlier to mul...you PUT WORDS IN MY MOUTH and The Burt comment was a complte attack on me for now reason...

All that because I have common since to realize Zorn has been taught by some of the best...has taken his time...help build a great winning team with the Seahawks and has done an excellent job....i feel pretty good about the hhire...THAT's MY RIGHT! To personally attack me was uncalled for....this a blog and I'm not always right, your not always right and mul is not always right...But at least I treat people with respect....

Posted by: leevi98 | February 9, 2008 9:50 PM | Report abuse

Does Zorn mean something that I don't know about.

Posted by: mul | February 9, 2008 07:51 PM

Zorn in German means "ire", "anger".

Ironic that Dave Kreig took over for him since name in German means "war".

Posted by: CSzaz | February 9, 2008 10:02 PM | Report abuse

I think Snyder saved himself with this hire. If Zorn wins he sticks around at a reasonable salary. If Zorn loses badly then Snyder can buy him out and hire Spags or Cowher if he wants.If Zorn can get a good offensive coordinator to improve their red-zone efficiency I think this team can go far. The NFC is still wide open.

Posted by: mdwinegar | February 9, 2008 10:54 PM | Report abuse

I have a confession to make: I still recall the first (?) time the Seahawks played at RFK, when Zorn ran a quarterback draw 40 yards, untouched, for a touchdown and led them to a victory. Maybe a Pardee era loss? Anyhow, based on that I've had an intuitively negative response to the man. I know it's childish and irrelevant, but there it is.

Otherwise, it's not the worst hire. And it's appropriately humiliating to Snyderatto that pretty much no one else would even entertain the notion of taking their job. Our "braintrust" is amateurish and laughable. One wonders how much leeway they will give him to hire offensive assistants. Or whether the Redskins will ever begin to conserve their draft choices. Interesting to think of team overtly run by Snyderatto. But they can't honestly be thinking of returning to the playoffs next year. This isn't the Chargers or Cowboys of last year. And I'd bet on at least 75% turnover on the offensive side of the ball within the two years.

WTF.

Posted by: DCUnited2 | February 9, 2008 11:19 PM | Report abuse

"Well, at least it wasn't Fassel."

The mantra of the Redskins' fan base.

It doesn't matter. As long as Snyder and Cerrato (love that "Snyderrato" someone came up with) run the show, you could blend the best elements of George Halas, Vince Lombardi, Tom Landry, Joe Gibbs, Bill Walsh, Chuck Noll, Don Shula and Bill Parcells into one supercoach and this franchise [i]still[/i] wouldn't reach the promised land. You need an organization to complement the coaching, and the Redskins simply don't have it.

Posted by: VPaterno | February 9, 2008 11:58 PM | Report abuse

Zorn seems like an excellent football man. The question that I have is does he have the drive and inspirational skills to lead an NFL team?
To me that is the difference between successful and unsucessful head coaches. You never know for sure until they take on the job.

Good luck Coach Zorn!

Posted by: cabraman | February 10, 2008 12:15 AM | Report abuse

Jim Zorn will make a great coach. What the Skins needed was not a head coach. Why? A head coach from another team would make him loyal to another team and not to the skins.

But an assistant coach has never owned a team. So a young head coach who has been an assistnat is hungry and young so there will be alot of energy like when Joe Gibbs came from San Diego as an assistant coach.

Zorn will be a great asset since he knows the offense and offense is where skins lack any force.

The only concern is snyder not letting the coach Zorn do his stuff....

In all, totally excited about Jim Zorn a breath of fresh air....

Posted by: tosanfran | February 10, 2008 12:33 AM | Report abuse

eaglesfanadam or whatever your name is-- why are you here? do you like to hang out with fans who know what a superbowl trophy looks like??

Posted by: alanb1 | February 10, 2008 12:33 AM | Report abuse

You guys are pathetic. REMEMBER your Redskins fans... Not Danny Fans...You have a right to be angry and not like this... You sound like a bunch of Cerratos .. saying "Yes" to everything this idiot does.. STOP drinking the Koolaid and wake up!!! Your owner just hired a man to HEAD COACH a National Football Franchise who's only experience in coaching is as a Quarterbacks coach. I dont recall Hasselback getting a Superbowl ring? Aan whos resume is smaller than local High School coaches in the area. We are NOW the laughing stock of the league. I got (3) phone calls in minutes of this decision from NY football Giants fans thanking Danny for (2) two automatic wins in the division next year. Stop settling for mediocrity and demand what Jack Kent Cooke gave us ... A genuine product... You sound like sniveling "YES Fan"... Instead of a Redskin fan.. The glass is not half empty its broken... Shattered on the floor...

Posted by: ak20 | February 10, 2008 12:40 AM | Report abuse

Excellent choice!! No pomp and circumstance. No big splash. No retread. A guy that can work with everyone here. I LIKE IT!!!!

Posted by: egrib | February 10, 2008 6:17 AM | Report abuse

ZORNDOG!

Man, I can see the dollar signs lighting
up.

Give the man and the new food name a chance!

Yippee!

Posted by: soc22210 | February 10, 2008 10:01 AM | Report abuse

He might turn out to be an excellent head coach; can't be any worse that Harbaugh in Baltimore (and I wonder if there's a little rivalry going on here?).

I'm looking at the timing of the announcement and a press conference to be on Sunday. Very bad form. You don't announce something major on a Friday or Saturday; that's a dead news period in which you dump stories you really don't want widely reported (like people leaving positions, firings, etc). And doing a press conference on Sunday could be construed as offensive to some (and competing with the Pro Bowl).

Long and short - the stories of the HC job at DC being devalued as a result of the Danny and Vinny show are probably pretty accurate. I'm surprised that folks like Breuax and Bugel would want to stay around. Maybe time to brush up the lies about "wanting to be closer to family" (the story you always use when you're just fed up with things) and have some other folks "retire".

Prediction: two years from now Joe Gibbs will be the HC at Carolina.

Posted by: dsda3731 | February 10, 2008 1:08 PM | Report abuse

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