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Zorn Is Ready as Workouts Near

Jason Reid reports:

Jim Zorn focused on the quarterbacks last year during the team's offseason conditioning program -- especially starter Jason Campbell -- and he plans to work closely with the group again when workouts begin Monday at Redskins Park. Beginning his second year as a head coach, Zorn has a better understanding of everything around him, he said, and the Redskins should benefit from his experience.

"I had to get an overall picture of where we were at, when it came to what the QBs had been working on, what they were proficient at, what they needed to work on, and things like that," Zorn said today. "As we got started, the thing that happened was that other receivers and different positions started coming out [to the practice field], and they started participating. It turned out, as we were just going through the workout, other guys wanted to come and find out what was going on. We just did little things. We didn't do a whole lot. It wasn't a full-blown deal, it wasn't a full-blown practice, but it was just talking about patterns, how things were going to be, how we were going to work things in practice. Last year, we just began communicating well and began understanding where we were headed.

"And things really just took off after that. This year, the thing that's going to be different is, I really have a very good feel for some of the things I need to stress with Jason, [backup] Todd [Collins] and Colt [Brennan] at the quarterback position. I'm just hoping that as many as guys as we can get, and as quickly as we can get guys back into it, we can have them start working out. And with the offense, when they're out there working on things, I think they will have a really good feel for patterns and what they need to do. Last year, when I said, 'Run a shallow cross,' they were like, 'What's that?' I mean, you get the idea of what it was, but how do you really want it run? And how specific do you want to be? Now when I say, 'Run a shallow cross,' they know that now. And I won't say it, Jason will say it."

New defensive tackle Albert Haynesworth -- the NFL's highest-paid defensive player -- and recently re-signed cornerback DeAngelo Hall are among the players expected to participate in the program. Vinny Cerrato, Washington's executive vice president of football operations, said Haynesworth and Hall have workout clauses in their contracts, but Zorn is confident they would have participated even if they had not received extra financial incentives.

"All those guys know what it means to have some leadership responsibility on the football team," Zorn said. "I think that's part of it."

Running back Clinton Portis is not expected to be in Ashburn for the start of workouts. "I fully expect him to be here participating at some point," Zorn said of Portis. "I talked to Clinton on the phone yesterday, and he knows what it means. He's just trying to work out his schedule. He's been working out his schedule."

By Matt Vita  |  March 13, 2009; 2:50 PM ET
 
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Looks like he's ready for the FIRST workouts.

Posted by: Alan4 | March 13, 2009 2:52 PM | Report abuse

If we HAVE to keep all our picks (I'm not against trading down or trading up to the 2nd), then it should probably go like this:

#13: Impact defense
3rd: Best available RT
5th: BIG WR (Ramses Barden, Patrick Turner, Greg Carr)
6th: 5th CB

Maybe add another FA after June cuts, if we have room.

Posted by: Rypien11 | March 13, 2009 2:54 PM | Report abuse

How about trading a draft pick to Buffalo for T Jason Peters? He's only 27 and is having contract issues with them. Can play either tackle position.

Posted by: cb50 | March 13, 2009 2:57 PM | Report abuse

Sounds like Zorn's hammy's are straight

Posted by: zcezcest1 | March 13, 2009 3:00 PM | Report abuse


#13: Impact defense
3rd: Best available RT
5th: BIG WR (Ramses Barden, Patrick Turner, Greg Carr)
6th: 5th CBM

Posted by: Rypien11 | March 13, 2009 2:54 PM


Disagree. The Skins already pulled a guy from the 3rd round for the O-line last year. Rinehart. How's that working out? If the O controls the ball a little better the D doesn't need all-world DEs, LBs, and CBs. And the offense isn't going anywhere until the O-line is shored up.

They need one of the big OTs, especially the top 5 caliber OT that seems to be dropping to them like manna from heaven.

Posted by: Alan4 | March 13, 2009 3:01 PM | Report abuse

Rypien 11:

I agree, I think the best Defensive player available or hopefully a LB. Then get the best OL available and someone that can play both guard/tackle - best athlete on the line, but I think instead of a WR, maybe a RB or another LB. It would be nice to have someone that could return kicks, 3rd down back with some real speed. Should be interesting.

Posted by: mhartz1 | March 13, 2009 3:02 PM | Report abuse

CLINTON PORTIS NEEDS TO GET HIS S*** TOGETHER AN GET HIS HEAD OUT OF MIAMI'S ASS. HOW MUCH ARE WE PAYING THIS GUY TO PARTY DOWN ON SOUTH BEACH?

Posted by: mopp04 | March 13, 2009 3:05 PM | Report abuse

I am really hoping that D. Thomas and M. Kelly get their asses into the gym and the voluntary workouts with JCamp. Would be nice for them and Davis to take this seriously and make a difference this year. Because, I think ARE is just awful - worst punt returner we have ever had, plus I think he is a puss.

Posted by: mhartz1 | March 13, 2009 3:07 PM | Report abuse

mopp04 I am not worried about CP. He will bring it game day like he always does.

JM220

Posted by: icetotalpackage | March 13, 2009 3:07 PM | Report abuse

To Alan4,

Maybe just maybe u should give Rinehart more than 1 season before we say that the 3rd rd pick didnt work out. Also Rinehart not starting in yr 1 doesnt mean u should be afraid to draft another one the next yr in the 3rd

Posted by: acm1179 | March 13, 2009 3:08 PM | Report abuse

Anyone know why the guy from Ole Miss, Michael Oher is starting to drop so much? A couple of mocks I saw have him dropping to the second round.

Posted by: will_ga | March 13, 2009 3:13 PM | Report abuse

cp will bring it like he always does? he broke down last year... he's probably the highest paid RB in the league and he barely cracks the top 10... he can't beat anybody is a foot race and i think he average a little over 3 yards a carry.

Posted by: mopp04 | March 13, 2009 3:16 PM | Report abuse

We need to pick up Kevin Shaffer, then we wouldn't be forced to take a Tackle with pick #13.

Posted by: F0X7 | March 13, 2009 3:16 PM | Report abuse

we won't be taking a tackle at #13, i can promise you that. it'll be a DE or LB guaranteed. you don't pay haynes $100m and then stick philip daniels and hb blades next to him.

Posted by: mopp04 | March 13, 2009 3:19 PM | Report abuse

cp will bring it like he always does? he broke down last year... he's probably the highest paid RB in the league and he barely cracks the top 10... he can't beat anybody is a foot race and i think he average a little over 3 yards a carry.

Posted by: mopp04

Got to laugh at you. He lead the league for half the year and finished 4th. Please explain how that is not cracking the top 10? Try again!

JM220

Posted by: icetotalpackage | March 13, 2009 3:23 PM | Report abuse

I love when guys come on here, and shoot their mouths off, and aren't in the ball park to any thing like facts.

mopp, go look up some stats, then come back.....take that weak azz stuff outta here...

will, mayock was saying the other night that Oher was moving up, not back....

Posted by: BeantownGreg | March 13, 2009 3:24 PM | Report abuse

Got to laugh at you. He lead the league for half the year and finished 4th. Please explain how that is not cracking the top 10? Try again!

JM220

Posted by: icetotalpackage | March 13, 2009 3:23 PM

And CP went to the Pro Bowl, didn't he?

Posted by: talent_evaluator | March 13, 2009 3:25 PM | Report abuse

Oher is dropping because he's is as smart as a car battery or maybe not.

Posted by: BallsDeep | March 13, 2009 3:25 PM | Report abuse

Apparently, Albert Haynesworth needs to changes his name. He now needs to be known as Albert TheNFL'sHighestPaidDefensivePlayer.

Have we beaten this horse enough yet? Or can we keep beating it a while?

Jason WaPo'sMostNegativeColumnist?

Posted by: SonofNero | March 13, 2009 3:26 PM | Report abuse

JM220

Deangelo Williams finished above CP last year in rushing yards and carried the ball 273 times compared to CP carrying the ball 342

Posted by: mopp04 | March 13, 2009 3:27 PM | Report abuse

The stat tossers are awesome, even better when wrong.

I too, like the idea of going after Shaffer for RT.

I have read that Oher lacks consistency and his technique sucks, but he is raw and willing to learn. Those seem to be the only bad things I have heard, still guaranteed 1st rounder on every board I have seen: Mayock, Kiper, McShay, etc.

I like Cushing...that is what I want a stud LB, not a hybrid DE/ LB, but a real strong LB for 5-6 years or longer.

Posted by: mhartz1 | March 13, 2009 3:29 PM | Report abuse

We have the highest paid DeAngelo in the league. The highest paid Albert and the highest paid London.

We no longer have the highest paid Jason, Shawn or Demetric

Posted by: zcezcest1 | March 13, 2009 3:31 PM | Report abuse

is there something wrong with my stat?

Posted by: mopp04 | March 13, 2009 3:31 PM | Report abuse

my point is that there's a lot more we could do with the money we're paying "CP" to party in Miami

Posted by: mopp04 | March 13, 2009 3:33 PM | Report abuse

mopp, where to start:

he's probably the highest paid RB in the league and he barely cracks the top 10 - he was 4th in the league in rushing, so your first stat was wrong....

he can't beat anybody is a foot race - he actually raced laron landry during training camp, and they were tied. Landry ran a 4.3 at the combine, so wrong again....

and i think he average a little over 3 yards a carry, wrong once again, what was his final YPC 4.3, or something like that??

again, go look up some stats before you make a bigger azz of yourself...

Posted by: BeantownGreg | March 13, 2009 3:34 PM | Report abuse

Skins have 3 problem areas. There are multiple problems on the OL, but RT is the biggest. DE and OLB are the problems.

At #13, the Skins should take the best available player that solves a problem. Any problem.

If they have 1 guy who they think is a lock, they should move up to get him.

Posted by: zcezcest1 | March 13, 2009 3:34 PM | Report abuse

Kirwan on NFL.come has this:


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13. Redskins Aaron Maybin DE/LB Penn State Brian Cushing
The Redskins will be tempted to take an offensive tackle here, but it looks like a reach at this point if the top four OTs are off the board. They need a linebacker with pass-rush skills, and Maybin had a big year in 2008 getting upfield and making plays.

Posted by: mhartz1 | March 13, 2009 3:35 PM | Report abuse

that sucks mhartz, neither of those guys is worth the #13.

Posted by: BeantownGreg | March 13, 2009 3:37 PM | Report abuse

This Is What The skins Should Do!

Sign Daniels and Wynn to hold down the
strong side until next year.

Sigh Brooks and move him to strong side
LB.Again, to hold down that position until
next year.

Bring back Washington only if he is cheap,
but make it incentive based.

Now The defense is set.

In The Draft, we go after Right tackle
with #13. If One of the top 4 are not
available, trade down.

This draft should be about the offence
100%.

As A fan, I'm sick and Tired Of Having
absolutely no passing game. Or the fact
that we can't score.

Bottom line:

Is Jason the guy?

We need to know (contract) so we must
support him with talent to properly
evaluate him long term.

Your thoughts guys.....

Posted by: rhowze | March 13, 2009 3:37 PM | Report abuse

cp will bring it like he always does? he broke down last year... he's probably the highest paid RB in the league and he barely cracks the top 10... he can't beat anybody is a foot race and i think he average a little over 3 yards a carry.

Posted by: mopp04

mopp04 -- it's apparent that you do, in fact, know how to use the internet by virtue of the fact that you're posting on this blog. Ever consider going to a website to check out the facts before posting nonsense?

I know it's hard to remember how to get to ESPN's website (www.espn.com), but maybe give it a shot next time. If you did you'd have found:

2008 - 1,487 yards (good for 4th in the NFL) at 4.3 ypc
2007 - 1,262 (6th) 3.9 ypc
2006 - Injury-shortened 523 at 4.1 ypc
2005 - 1,516 (4th) at 4.3 ypc

Posted by: HenryStin | March 13, 2009 3:39 PM | Report abuse

In terms of long plays for CP, mopp was right. However, I think fixing our OL will help with that immensely. In addition of course, to getting everyone on the same page in terms of blocking assignments and teaching DT how to block without getting a holding penalty.

Posted by: JesusFreakKaren | March 13, 2009 3:39 PM | Report abuse

It was Bank's from SI that had him dropping but didn't really say why:

"A personnel man I trust tells me Oher's stock has taken on water starting with the combine, and he believes he'll continue to sink all the way into the second round."...

Posted by: will_ga | March 13, 2009 3:42 PM | Report abuse

Beantown Greg

I dont like Maybin, but i would be happy with Cushing as I have already stated. Kirwan has all top 4 OL in the top 10 and two more in the top 20. Britton and the kid from CT.

Posted by: mhartz1 | March 13, 2009 3:43 PM | Report abuse

Why doesn't Zorn hire a QB coach and start to be a head coach.

Posted by: jmy999 | March 13, 2009 3:43 PM | Report abuse

So, forget for a moment all the criticisms leveled against the Haynesworth signing in terms of him being overpaid (at the expense of depth and other positions that need filling), not on the field enough, or a jackass for stomping on, you know, a dude's face. He also paralyzed a guy. Nice work Danny! And Jason LaCanwhatever: stop being so negative. The Redskins have done nothing but OWN the last fifteen years. How dare you criticize! http://deadspin.com/5169091/albert-haynesworth-almost-killed-a-guy

Posted by: YourPsychologist | March 13, 2009 3:44 PM | Report abuse

Maybe just maybe u should give Rinehart more than 1 season before we say that the 3rd rd pick didnt work out. Also Rinehart not starting in yr 1 doesnt mean u should be afraid to draft another one the next yr in the 3rd

Posted by: acm1179 | March 13, 2009 3:08 PM |

I'm not sayin it hasn't worked out, but it goes beyond not starting. Dude was *inactive* most of the season, despite the horrible line play.

I hope he develops and can at least serve as a backup this year. Meanwhile, the Skins may get a shot at an OT who was projected as a possible #1 overall pick until the combine. Why was he projected #1? Because he kicked a$$ on the football field, regardless of the combine.

Posted by: Alan4 | March 13, 2009 3:44 PM | Report abuse

hey henrystin --

i could run for 1500 yards if i was given the ball 3000 times. if you're trying to tell me there aren't cheaper options at RB that can do the same thing portis does, then you're crazy.

Posted by: mopp04 | March 13, 2009 3:44 PM | Report abuse

Mainly b/c Lions take Smith, Monroe to Rams and then Orakpo to the Chiefs. Since Stafford and Sanchez are out of top three with the addition of cassel to the chiefs. Not a bad mock draft.

Posted by: mhartz1 | March 13, 2009 3:45 PM | Report abuse

mopp, do you check anything or do just like to diss CP.
He is a premier running back, any the only back the redskins have that can actually pass protect.

Posted by: jmy999 | March 13, 2009 3:48 PM | Report abuse

...there aren't cheaper options at RB that can do the same thing portis does, then you're crazy.
Posted by: mopp04 | March 13, 2009 3:44 PM

There are no cheaper options anywhere because even if we sign someone for the minimum salary we still have a chunk of money that gets counted towards Portis. So we really can't afford to replace him and pay him at the same time. For better or worse, CP is who we have to go with.

Posted by: will_ga | March 13, 2009 3:50 PM | Report abuse

If you think Clinton Portis is the problem... If you think Jason Campbell is the problem... If you think the Skins biggest need is at DE or OLB... just remember, we scored less points than the Detrot Lions last year, and the defense ranked #4.

I blame the O-line and so did Clinton Portis (Portis: I Wish I Still Had The Denver Offensive Line).

It's obvious what we need to do with that 13th pick.

Posted by: Alan4 | March 13, 2009 3:52 PM | Report abuse

hey mopp04, still waiting to hear how you came up with the stat that CP only averaged 3 yards per carry???

I think you're just like some of the other bamas up here that just likes to hate on Portis. Why? I have no idea...

Someone should tell you that you don't get paid to hate...

Posted by: RedDMV | March 13, 2009 3:53 PM | Report abuse

CP's problem is that he runs behind a non-existant OL. It may function well in the beginning of the season, but eventually the presence of geriatrics on the OL bites you in the butt.

Posted by: JesusFreakKaren | March 13, 2009 3:54 PM | Report abuse

your mama is so fat she sat on a quarter and a booger flew out of George Washington's nose!

Posted by: trezmartin | March 13, 2009 3:55 PM | Report abuse

Maybe he is thinking of Portis's average over the last 8 games. Not sure what it was but it couldn't have been too good. But, again, the drop in production had less to do with Portis and more to do with o-line performance I think.

Posted by: will_ga | March 13, 2009 3:56 PM | Report abuse

"...I'm dodging all the people in the backfield, fighting just to get back to the line of scrimmage..."

I don't know why this is so hard for people to see. Tell me, what RB is going to be all-world, all the time if he can't get to the second level without contact consistently?

Posted by: RedDMV | March 13, 2009 3:59 PM | Report abuse

mopp, where to start:

he's probably the highest paid RB in the league and he barely cracks the top 10 - he was 4th in the league in rushing, so your first stat was wrong....

he can't beat anybody is a foot race - he actually raced laron landry during training camp, and they were tied. Landry ran a 4.3 at the combine, so wrong again....

and i think he average a little over 3 yards a carry, wrong once again, what was his final YPC 4.3, or something like that??

again, go look up some stats before you make a bigger azz of yourself...

Posted by: BeantownGreg | March 13, 2009 3:34 PM | Report abuse

*************************

Beantowngreg-

The only thing I have to say is to please leave that 40 yard competition with Landry out of the argument. That is just absurd. It was AFTER a practice and people differ GREATLY in straight line foot races with NO pads on compared to GAME speed which CP lacks. I LOVE the guy but he isn't a home run hitter at all. Go back and watch the tapes. He can't outrun or out shake a DB/Safety for the life of him. Going off the top of my head I believe he only has one or two runs over 40 yards with the Skins and one of those was his FIRST carry as a Redskin (65 yards I believe) and that was MANY years ago! He is a different style back now.

Posted by: Skins211 | March 13, 2009 4:00 PM | Report abuse

"Last year, when I said, 'Score a touchdown,' they were like, 'What's that?' I mean, you get the idea of what it was, but how do you really want a touchdown? And how specific do you want to be? Now when I say, 'Score a touchdown,' they know that now. And I won't say it, Jason will say it."

I almost crapped my pants laughing while typing that cus I could just imagine it being like that.

Posted by: REDneckSKINhead | March 13, 2009 4:01 PM | Report abuse

CP is the man but he needs to get in there and do what everybody else is required to do. He's had 2 months off to get away from football and do his thing.

Posted by: Posse81_83_84 | March 13, 2009 4:01 PM | Report abuse

We've got an offensive line that had 4 out of 5 starters placing in the bottom half of the league in pass-protection for his position.

We've got only one WR that surpassed 600 yards receiving last season. We've got only 2 that surpassed 125 yards.

We had the least accurate kicker in the league. We had the statistically worst punter in the league. We had a punt returner that caught more fair catches than any player in the league.

We had a defensive line who's team leading sack total was 4.

We have a secondary who's team leading interception total was 2.

We have a QB that threw a total of 13 TDs last season.

But apparently, the 4th leading rusher in the league "NEEDS TO GET HIS S*** TOGETHER."

Wow...just, wow.

Posted by: psps23 | March 13, 2009 4:05 PM | Report abuse

Re CP: There is only so many times a man can run into a brick wall.

Posted by: TBDog | March 13, 2009 4:08 PM | Report abuse

our biggest hole right now is at OLB

when you look at it with the perspective to have the best talent on the field then you can not ignore OLB this year.

with OT we have Jansen and Heyer, one with great run blocking the other with great pass blocking. Suppose we do get and OT like Oher or Smith do you really think we wont be able to find that type of quality OT in next years draft when Jansens contract comes off the books? i say let jansen play out his contract as backup throw Heyer in there and lets see if he can remove a need for us.

DE is the other pressing concern, i do feel we have continued to put off developing a young DE for many years and i do feel like we should but with the number of draft picks we have and the amount of cap space we have we have to look at other ways to improve our pass rush.

With OLB we can improve our pass rush even without addressing DE for another year. We can also improve in pass protection if is able to cover TE's which non of our SLB can do effectively, London is our only pass covering LB we have. LB use to be the strenght of our D, we use to have a stable of them. Them moving around creating mismatches is what causes turnovers, even more so then a DE who can wreak havoc.


also has anyone looked out Kearse ended up in philly, these "elite" pass rushers are good because of there quickness, they dont weigh too many pounds and teams like to aim their running game right at them and by the most part are effective, our scheme calls for a DE with great run stopping abliity and we rely on our DT to collapse the pocket and LB to come off their gaps to chase the QB. Espically since we are in the NFC east, small DE like like hybrid ones that are filled in this draft are not a good fit


if we do draft DE this year it has to be Tyson Jackson from LSU. but other then that we have got to go after a LB that can blitz and play pass coverage effectively

Posted by: mehtadman87 | March 13, 2009 4:09 PM | Report abuse

So, forget for a moment all the criticisms leveled against the Haynesworth signing in terms of him being overpaid (at the expense of depth and other positions that need filling), not on the field enough, or a jackass for stomping on, you know, a dude's face. He also paralyzed a guy. Nice work Danny! And Jason LaCanwhatever: stop being so negative. The Redskins have done nothing but OWN the last fifteen years. How dare you criticize! http://deadspin.com/5169091/albert-haynesworth-almost-killed-a-guy

Posted by: YourPsychologist | March 13, 2009 3:44 PM | Report abuse

Are you serious? It was an f'ing car accident. I'm not saying the guys an angel, but this one isn't really a character issue, unless being a bad driver makes you a bad person. Is that what you're saying?

Posted by: dawson8674 | March 13, 2009 4:10 PM | Report abuse

Anyone know why the guy from Ole Miss, Michael Oher is starting to drop so much? A couple of mocks I saw have him dropping to the second round.

Posted by: will_ga | March 13, 2009 3:13 PM |

Dude is definitely Oher-rated.

Posted by: AntonChigurh | March 13, 2009 4:11 PM | Report abuse

our biggest hole right now is at OLB.

wow.....#4 ranked defense versus the unmitigated disaster that was the offense.

Yup.....

Posted by: BeantownGreg | March 13, 2009 4:11 PM | Report abuse

"I dont like Maybin, but i would be happy with Cushing as I have already stated."

Posted by: mhartz1 | March 13, 2009 3:43 PM

I'm sorry but Cushing says bust all over him to me IMO. If Everette Brown (or Orakpo ) manage to fall to us, I say we trade down and pick Micheal Johnson from Georgia Tech. He has great size and speed and would be a great talent to have for our D line for pass situations.

Posted by: duncanrobee | March 13, 2009 4:13 PM | Report abuse

I meant trade down only if Brown and Orakpo don't fall to us. Then we trade down.

Posted by: duncanrobee | March 13, 2009 4:15 PM | Report abuse

Why are people whining about Portis being in Miami? To date he has not missed any OTA’s, minicamps, etc (since Zorn took over anyway). If he starts missing OTA’s a-la Shawn Springs there can be some complaints…..

Posted by: dlhaze1 | March 13, 2009 4:16 PM | Report abuse

for the amount of money he is getting paid he, hayne and hall should be the first ones in the door at the practice facility MONDAY MORNING. apparently, however, CP needs to get schedule figured out... give me a break.

Posted by: mopp04 | March 13, 2009 4:20 PM | Report abuse

..."but this one isn't really a character issue, unless being a bad driver makes you a bad person."...

Accidents happen, that's why they are called accidents. Not really a character issue. However, being placed on probation, with all he has to lose as a professional athlete, and still getting in trouble for doing the same thing again, does show a flaw in his judgement or maturity at the least.

Posted by: will_ga | March 13, 2009 4:22 PM | Report abuse

for the amount of money he is getting paid he, hayne and hall should be the first ones in the door at the practice facility MONDAY MORNING. apparently, however, CP needs to get schedule figured out... give me a break.
Posted by: mopp04 | March 13, 2009 4:20 PM

Not sure I read you here….did I miss something where one of them are reported to be not attending? So they all live elsewhere in the offseason…..so what?

Posted by: dlhaze1 | March 13, 2009 4:23 PM | Report abuse

Not sure I read you here….did I miss something where one of them are reported to be not attending? So they all live elsewhere in the offseason…..so what?


Posted by: dlhaze1 | March 13, 2009 4:23 PM


Oh, I just re-read the last paragraph in the post.....my bad!

Posted by: dlhaze1 | March 13, 2009 4:24 PM | Report abuse

Dude is definitely Oher-rated.

Posted by: AntonChigurh | March 13, 2009 4:11 PM

Nice work, Anton.

Posted by: talent_evaluator | March 13, 2009 4:27 PM | Report abuse

... give me a break.

Posted by: mopp04 | March 13, 2009 4:20 PM |

You've got a break. Two weeks. See you then. Enjoy your break.

Posted by: talent_evaluator | March 13, 2009 4:29 PM | Report abuse

Portis should take some ballet lessons... JLC should take his picture off of this page because I hate his face... RedDMV is an idiot... and Colt Brennan will be the future of this team. I love a*#l-sex!

Posted by: noseman4681 | March 13, 2009 4:32 PM | Report abuse

"our biggest hole right now is at OLB"

I really mean this with all sincerity when I ask this question:

Do some of you actually watch the f'n games?

I mean, for real, do you? Because it seems to me that a lot of you come up with positions of need based on which positions you would like to see a change. Either that or you don't like the guy that currently starts at that position (Portis).

Or you just haven't the slightest idea what you're talking about.

Posted by: RedDMV | March 13, 2009 4:33 PM | Report abuse

"our biggest hole right now is at OLB"


There are several holes that need to be filled but by improving the oline we might can put more points on the board than 16 a game which would then make the other holes seem a little smaller!

Posted by: will_ga | March 13, 2009 4:38 PM | Report abuse

My fan club is growing...

TheTruth
rich_cranium
edvar
and now, noseman4681...

Good to see that you have so much insight to add to the convo, homie. I said that because it's Friday, I'll fall back from the beef and bickering....

But I promise you, IF you come up here with that bullsh*t Monday, I'm going to e-own your ass, chump.

Posted by: RedDMV | March 13, 2009 4:38 PM | Report abuse

Um, he was going over a hundred miles an hour in his Ferrari, which is reckless driving and illegal. After that he didn't tell his probation officer that he paralzyed someone. So yes it is a character issue, the guy is a demonstrable scumbag. Also, the victim had to raise 250k to pay for medical expenses. If you paralzyed someone and made 100 million dollars recently, wouldn't you want to help them out? It's a character issue. What don't you get?

Posted by: YourPsychologist | March 13, 2009 4:38 PM | Report abuse

On a related note: Uh oh…..Hulk Hogan’s kid is in jail for causing an accident:

http://www.delawareonline.com/article/20090313/ENTERTAINMENT/90313059

Last paragraph reads like this:
"Houston said Hogan worries that when all is done, he won’t be able to help John Graziano, a young man who was like family to the Hogans and was seriously injured in a crash caused by Hogan’s son Nick Bollea. Nick Bollea was sentenced last year to eight months in county jail after he pleaded no contest to causing the crash."

At least it’s not necessarily the EXACT same scenario ……..and it looks like Hogan wants to do what Haynesworth should be doing; looking to pay the kid.

Posted by: dlhaze1 | March 13, 2009 4:41 PM | Report abuse

Dude is definitely Oher-rated.

Posted by: AntonChigurh | March 13, 2009 4:11 PM

Nice work, Anton.

Posted by: talent_evaluator | March 13, 2009 4:27 PM |

You know, I have to be careful about what I post. There's no telling what might happen to me. A judge could order me to attend pun management school. I could also be ordered to pay for the shrink visits for those that incurred deep psychic trauma from being exposed to my odious humor. Luckily, I just signed a big new $$$ FA contract to be a mail carrier for Uncle Samuel.

Posted by: AntonChigurh | March 13, 2009 4:41 PM | Report abuse

TE - Did you see my counter analysis to your posting of the WallStJounal's analysis?

Call me the new Jim Cramer baby.........

Posted by: 4thFloor | March 13, 2009 4:45 PM | Report abuse

2 things:

3) Rams release Torry Holt.
7) The draft ain't my thing, but OLB before Oline? Don't think so.

17) A guy and his wife are watching a tv show about psychology. He says to his wife, "I bet you can't tell me something that will make me happy and sad at the same time."

She says, "You've got the biggest pen!s of all your friends."

Posted by: 4-12 | March 13, 2009 4:45 PM | Report abuse

It's a character issue. What don't you get?

Posted by: YourPsychologist | March 13, 2009 4:38 PM

Uh, whatever happened to "innocent until proven guilty"? I guess when some guy who calls himself "YourPsychologist" on a blog pronounces him guilty then all legal proceedings come to a halt?

Posted by: talent_evaluator | March 13, 2009 4:46 PM | Report abuse

No one has checked out Billy Malone yet? Or are all of you hating on my man?

Posted by: 4thFloor | March 13, 2009 4:47 PM | Report abuse

man, Jim Zorn has his stuff together as a QB coach. He's a great QB coach. He'll make our QB's much better this year.


Quick question. Why again is this guy our HEAD COACH?

our freaking HEAD COACH shouldn't worry about getting our third string QB up to speed. My god. We're doomed.

DOOM & GLOOM 09!!

Posted by: TheTruth11 | March 13, 2009 4:49 PM | Report abuse

LMAO @ 4-12...

Dang, that's F'd up......

Posted by: 4thFloor | March 13, 2009 4:49 PM | Report abuse

Some people miss the point about drafting at DE or OLB. We had the #4 defense (though I think that stat overrates it a bit, due to lack of turnovers).

I would describe last year's defense as the type that keeps you in games -- as opposed to the handful of elite defenses that could actually win games for you (Steelers, Ravens ...)

Last year's defense has lost talent at DE, OLB and CB, while gaining it at only 1 position, DT. We do have 2 good CBs, so the talent loss there isn't as critical. We don't have 2 good OLBs or 2 good DEs.

With a high draft pick of OLB or DE, there is a chance to upgrade talent at those positions over last year.

With Albert and a stud DE or OLB, this defense has the potential to become the sort that wins games, not just keeps you in them.

Bottom line, if we pick a defensive stud, next year's Skins team would be an attempt to resemble the Ravens of this past year. A defense that does great things and an offense, with a poor OL and limited WRs, whose priority will be not to lose games.

Posted by: zcezcest1 | March 13, 2009 4:52 PM | Report abuse

CP isn't that much of an upgrade over Betts to be honest. I got no beef with CP. He kinda annoyed me this past year with his crap, but he's still a Skin and he's still that dude.


but darn, he's not fast at all. He can block well. But so can Joe Schmoe Fullback off the street. We should put Portis at fullback since he's omgdabestblockereva

Posted by: TheTruth11 | March 13, 2009 4:55 PM | Report abuse

Portis and Campbell will both play better and last longer if we get the O-line right. We will be able to control the clock better, and wear down the other teams D. It always starts at the line. So the draft must start with the line.

Any thoughts about Jansen playing guard? He's such a great run blocker, can help us out there?

And one last thought for now, playing in the NFC East - you are flat crazy not having a great kicker. Too many games come down to last minute kicks of 40+ yards.

Posted by: edvar | March 13, 2009 4:55 PM | Report abuse

I'll have to agree. DE or LB. Cushing, Maluaalgaga or Orakpo and I'm happy. We need someone who can beast behind Fat Albert.

I heard on some mocks Malugagagaga is down to second round, wtf.

Posted by: TheTruth11 | March 13, 2009 4:59 PM | Report abuse

mopp04 I am not worried about CP. He will bring it game day like he always does.

JM220

Posted by: icetotalpackage | March 13, 2009 3:07 PM

I second that.

JZ rode his butt in the ground. Dude needs to heel up.

Anyone got any HGH handy?

Posted by: 4thFloor | March 13, 2009 5:03 PM | Report abuse

I heard on some mocks Malugagagaga is down to second round, wtf.
Posted by: TheTruth11 | March 13, 2009

They mentioned the hamstring on total access last night as an issue. Maybe he has a history of being fragile, who knows sometimes.

Posted by: will_ga | March 13, 2009 5:09 PM | Report abuse

Maybe it was path to the draft... they kinda blend together after awhile.

Posted by: will_ga | March 13, 2009 5:10 PM | Report abuse

Excellent article on why Andre Smith will be a successful OT in the NFL:

http://www.nationalfootballpost.com/2009/03/behind-the-measurements-height-vs-arm-length/

and it looks like he is going to fall to the Redskins at 13!

Posted by: rb-freedom-for-all | March 13, 2009 5:11 PM | Report abuse

30 most important positions on a team:
22 starters (4 DL, 3 LB, 4 DB, 5 OL, 2 WR, 1 TE, 2 RB, 1 QB)
2 kickers (P and K)
4 most important reserves (by playing time)
3rd WR, 1 DT, 1 DE, nickel back
2 most important depth positions OL, QB)

Now match those 30 positions against the players that fill them. I see talent problems at:

P, K, WR, DE, OLB, nickel and the obvious suspect ... the OL. In total, its 8-10 of the 30 slots.

Age problems at OL, MLB, RB

Above average injury risk at CB, OLB, DT, OL, WR

Places where an injury hurts the most:
CB, OL, WR, MLB

This should be the type of thing that guides the Skins trade/draft/FA strategy. Obviously cap and contracts are part of the consideration, but the ability to look at your weaknesses and decide which to address and which you will live with is a big part of the strategy.

My take on Albert and Hall -- the Skins (consciously or not) decided they will live with more weaknesses than I think makes sense.

Posted by: zcezcest1 | March 13, 2009 5:12 PM | Report abuse

"#13: Impact defense
3rd: Best available RT
5th: BIG WR (Ramses Barden, Patrick Turner, Greg Carr)
6th: 5th CB

Maybe add another FA after June cuts, if we have room.

Posted by: Rypien11 | March 13, 2009"

Its beginning to feel like
#13 Oher, etc LT
(Orapko is gone else they take him)
#3 Clay Mathews (Curry is gone) OLB or
Unger/Mack C/G possible Andre Smith
#5 G/C
#6 Field goal kicker.

It looks like a pretty sparse draft which is why I think they will trade down knowing in advance that who they want isn't going to be there at #13.

The last time they had a draft as sparse with Snyderato leading the way it turned into a complete disaster. (2003)


Posted by: periculum | March 13, 2009 5:20 PM | Report abuse

"Age problems at OL, MLB, RB"

OL is a train wreck waiting to happen.

They have replacements at MLB in Blades and Sinclair. They really don't have guys to replace Marcus Washington or Rocky McIntosh. Clay Matthews?

Portis yes, Betts not yet. Cartwright is close.
Sellers, yes.

"Above average injury risk at CB, OLB, DT, OL, WR"

OL, CB, S, OLB, DE, and WR

OL is a train wreck waiting to happen.

Posted by: periculum | March 13, 2009 5:26 PM | Report abuse

"No one has checked out Billy Malone yet? Or are all of you hating on my man?

Posted by: 4thFloor | March 13, 2009"

If he had cleaned up his act sooner Gibbs would have for sure made a huge campaign to draft him. He was always looking for another QB on the depth chart just in case.

This is Sniderato the Snidely and Vinnie team. They don't draft guys like Malone. They draft losers.

Posted by: periculum | March 13, 2009 5:29 PM | Report abuse

Why get smith, oher, or orakpo when you can get impact @ 13?

None of these guys says impact to me. I really don't want to have Smith on the Right Side because he maybe to slow for that. Oher is hyped. and Orakpo is a no no.........

Posted by: 4thFloor | March 13, 2009 5:31 PM | Report abuse

The truth about CP lies somewhere between the "cut him, he's washed up" crowd and those who take time out from fellating his fathead poster to post how great he is. He's an overpaid rb who plays harder than anyone on Sunday. That said, he should be working out with the team.

Posted by: mack1 | March 13, 2009 5:31 PM | Report abuse

"If you paralzyed someone and made 100 million dollars recently, wouldn't you want to help them out? It's a character issue. What don't you get?

Posted by: YourPsychologist | March 13, 2009"

But the lawyer sez: doing that would make you look guilty and liable. Mssr. Haynesworth is now also a LARGE target for lawsuits.

Posted by: periculum | March 13, 2009 5:32 PM | Report abuse

Top 30 Skins and will they be here beyond 2 years:

DL
Albert, Yes
Carter, No (overpaid)
Golston, Yes
Griffin, No (age)
Jackson, No
Buszbee, No

LB
Blades, Yes (borderline)
Fletcher, No (age)
Rocky, Yes

DB
Horton, Yes
Landry, Yes
Hall, Yes
Rogers, Yes
Smoot, No

OL
Jansen, No
Thomas, No
Rabach, Yes
Dockery, Yes
Samuels, Yes (borderline, age)
Heyer, No

TE
Cooley, Yes

QB
Campbell, Yes
Collins, No (age)

RB
Portis, Yes (borderline, age)
Sellers, No

WR
Moss, Yes (borderline, age)
ARE, Yes (borderline)
Thomas, Yes (borderline, hard to tell)

P No
K No


I get:
Yes: 11
Yes: 6 (borderline)
No: 13

A couple of swaps could occur, most likely: Alexander for Griffin, Kareem Moore for Smoot and Kelly for D Thomas.

Posted by: zcezcest1 | March 13, 2009 5:32 PM | Report abuse

"None of these guys says impact to me. I really don't want to have Smith on the Right Side because he maybe to slow for that. Oher is hyped. and Orakpo is a no no.........

Posted by: 4thFloor | March 13, 2009"

At pick 13 there won't be any "impact" players left on defense. Only question marks. You are better off attempting to repair the huge holes in your dike than attempting to improve a defense that will likely do well for another year by resigning guys like Washington and Daniels.

Resigning Kendall will not help the OL.

Posted by: periculum | March 13, 2009 5:35 PM | Report abuse

Some people miss the point about drafting at DE or OLB. We had the #4 defense (though I think that stat overrates it a bit, due to lack of turnovers).

Last year's defense has lost talent at DE, OLB and CB, while gaining it at only 1 position, DT. We do have 2 good CBs, so the talent loss there isn't as critical. We don't have 2 good OLBs or 2 good DEs.

Posted by: zcezcest1 | March 13, 2009 4:52 PM | Report abuse

Not sure your math adds up.

What did we "lose" from last year in terms of OLB? Marcus Washington? He started the season as a shell of himself and just got worse as time went on.

At CB, we "lost" Shawn Springs in the middle of the season and "gained" DeAngelo Hall. And so we pretty much broke even. We are going into this season at that "break even" point.

We didn't have 2 good OLBs or 2 good DEs last year either, but we still mananged a #4 ranking. Then we went and added the best DT in football to our squad who is supposed to make everyone else on the line better.

Sorry, I have yet to hear a valid argument as to why taking a DE or OLB at #13 is worth it for this team given our free agent signings, recent defensive performance, and our needs on the O-line.

Posted by: p1funk | March 13, 2009 5:37 PM | Report abuse

"No one has checked out Billy Malone yet? Or are all of you hating on my man?
Posted by: 4thFloor | March 13, 2009"

He had a "kink" in his artery??? That can't be good for you.

Posted by: will_ga | March 13, 2009 5:39 PM | Report abuse

#3 Clay Mathews (Curry is gone) OLB or
Unger/Mack C/G possible Andre Smith

Posted by: periculum | March 13, 2009 5:20 PM | Report abuse

Ummmm, you don't seriously buy into the "Andre-Smith-could-fall-into-the-3rd-round" nonsense, do you??

Please say "no". I want to continue to respect your football opinions (which I do on occasion).

Posted by: p1funk | March 13, 2009 5:41 PM | Report abuse

"13. Redskins Aaron Maybin DE/LB Penn State Brian Cushing
The Redskins will be tempted to take an offensive tackle here, but it looks like a reach at this point if the top four OTs are off the board. They need a linebacker with pass-rush skills, and Maybin had a big year in 2008 getting upfield and making plays.

Posted by: mhartz1 | March 13, 2009"

13. Washington Redskins (8-8)

Kiper pick: Andre Smith -- Smith has to manage his weight in order to remain on the left side. If he doesn't, he's a mauler at right tackle who could really assist the running game and do the job at that spot in pass protection. Hopefully, he'll maximize his skills in the NFL by paying more attention to detail. If he doesn't, you are looking at a major bust.

McShay pick: Michael Oher, OT, Mississippi -- The Redskins' offensive line is aging in a hurry, and offensive tackles who move like Oher do not last long on draft day, which is why it won't shock us if he's gone in the first half of the first round. Oher is inconsistent but extremely talented.

That's an old mock dude. Deprecated and obsolete.


Posted by: periculum | March 13, 2009 5:43 PM | Report abuse

IMO,

CP has a rare combination of qualities. He is a big-time gamer who brings it 110% every Sunday, takes a beating, does his job, period.

He'a also a tranny-dressing prima-donna who whines and complains like my 3-year-old wanting candy before dinner and disrespects his teammates and coaches when it serves his ego.

Posted by: p1funk | March 13, 2009 5:44 PM | Report abuse

9. Green Bay Packers (6-10)

Kiper pick: Brian Orakpo -- I view Orakpo as a 4-3 end with the ability to also play on his feet in a 3-4 as an attacking outside linebacker. He is super athletic and incredibly strong, but there is concern about his durability.
McShay pick: Aaron Maybin, DE, Penn State -- The Packers could use a young pass-rusher like Maybin to complement Aaron Kampman at outside linebacker in Dom Capers' newly implemented 3-4 scheme.

Posted by: periculum | March 13, 2009 5:44 PM | Report abuse

After looking at Smith through the eyes of front office executives and scouts, he is a risk and his stock is dropping. After listening to a few line coaches who have studied and watched him work, he hasn't dropped out of the top half of the first round. When I posed the question of moving him to guard, no one fought that concept (but two line coaches wondered why that would be the way to go when he had the special traits required to be an outstanding tackle).

Guys who coach offensive linemen want men with long arms. Smith has the longest arms of all the potential first-round tackles:
Player, School Arm length
Andre Smith, Alabama 35 3/8
Will Beatty, Connecticut 34 ¾
Eben Britton, Arizona 32 ¾
Eugene Monroe, Virginia 33 7/8
Michael Oher, Mississippi 33 ½
Jason Smith, Baylor 33 ¾


Secondly, they want guys who can accelerate their feet to finish a run block or recover from a poor pass block. Andre Smith has the feet to do both. One coach went as far as to say "he makes things on the football field look easy."

After examining everything, Smith's not a top five pick. Still, look for Smith to go somewhere between the sixth and 14th overall pick. After all the yellow flags that have been raised this offseason, his contract could even have some language protecting the club

Management and coaches will have to meet on some common ground when Smith comes off the board.

Posted by: periculum | March 13, 2009 5:46 PM | Report abuse

At pick 13 there won't be any "impact" players left on defense. Only question marks.

Posted by: periculum

I looked at picks btwn 11-15 over the past several seasons and there have been many excellent players picked in and around the #13 pick


As for p1funk ... we did have 3 good CBs last year ... in essence I agreed with you analysis that while losing Springs is a loss, its modest in impact. As for OLB, Marcus was good, but obviously hurt too much. Our OLB needs a major upgrade. An impact OLB makes this defense much better.

Our 3 DE's were roughly equal last year. I'd rank them as 1. Evans, 2. Taylor then 3. Carter -- though none was dramatically better or worse than the others. An impact DE also makes this defense much better.

Posted by: zcezcest1 | March 13, 2009 5:50 PM | Report abuse

TE - Did you see my counter analysis to your posting of the WallStJounal's analysis?

Call me the new Jim Cramer baby.........

Posted by: 4thFloor | March 13, 2009 4:45 PM

Dear New Jim,

I did read it. Thanks for your never-say-die perspective. The company has way too much debt to survive. The stock is going to zero.

But it does look like Snyder's management team has improved operations and increased revenues. Maybe they will be kept in place when the company comes out of bankruptcy. And, Snyder could still be a player if he owns a chunk of the debt.

Posted by: talent_evaluator | March 13, 2009 5:50 PM | Report abuse

TORY HOLT FROM THE RAMS WAS JUST RELEASED THINK WE COULD USE HIM MY BEST GUESS IS HELL YEAH

Posted by: mudman220 | March 13, 2009 5:56 PM | Report abuse

Andre Smith won't be using those big floppy boobs of his to block with. Those long arms of his being able to help shove people around will come in handy tho. I watched him several times this year & while clothed he's pretty impressive.

Posted by: will_ga | March 13, 2009 5:58 PM | Report abuse

Still say the Skins should trade up and get the best OT. People keep saying there are 4 good OTs, but history says not all 4 will pan out. Get the guy they think is the best. Another Chris Samuels.

Posted by: zcezcest1 | March 13, 2009 6:02 PM | Report abuse

An impact DE also makes this defense much better.

Posted by: zcezcest1 | March 13, 2009 5:50 PM | Report abuse

An impact DE makes every defense better.

The issue is whether we invest #13 $$ on a DE when DEs are not primed to be "impact" guys in Blache's scheme (their assignment is always to play the run first - the pressure comes from DT position and safety/OLB blitzes), and we already paid AH/DH, and we have gaping needs on the O-line.

Posted by: p1funk | March 13, 2009 6:03 PM | Report abuse

Andre Smith won't be using those big floppy boobs of his to block with. Those long arms of his being able to help shove people around will come in handy tho. I watched him several times this year & while clothed he's pretty impressive.

Posted by: will_ga | March 13, 2009 5:58 PM | Report abuse

Andre's moobs are perfect for swallowing up pass rushers.

If he's at #13, a chimp with one nut would know you have to take him...

Posted by: p1funk | March 13, 2009 6:05 PM | Report abuse

I like Torry Holt as long as he comes on the cheap. He can take Thrash's spot on the roster and Randle El's spot on the field.

Posted by: p1funk | March 13, 2009 6:07 PM | Report abuse

The issue is whether we invest #13 $$ on a DE when DEs are not primed to be "impact" guys in Blache's scheme (their assignment is always to play the run first - the pressure comes from DT position and safety/OLB blitzes), and we already paid AH/DH, and we have gaping needs on the O-line.

Posted by: p1funk

If Blache had a Dexter Manley at DE, he'd find a way to use him in a pass rush. He had an Andre Carter. Not the same.

Posted by: zcezcest1 | March 13, 2009 6:18 PM | Report abuse

They cut Jason Taylor for not agreeing to attend offseason workouts, but apparently Clinton Portis is immune to that rule. If Zorn is ever going to run this team, he needs to stop setting double standards. You practice, you play; you don't, you ride the pine - and you may be unemployed. That's the way it has to be. Portis squirms out of a lot of practices plus he has been critical of the coach. You can look the other way when a rookie coach lets this slide, but Zorn is no longer a rookie. As for Portis, I wonder what the team could get for him in trade. If the team could get a decent defensive end or linebacker, they could take the risk because they have Betts and Cartwright. I just am not a fan of someone who believes he is above the team.

Posted by: RedSkinHead | March 13, 2009 6:23 PM | Report abuse

OL is a train wreck waiting to happen.

Posted by: periculum | March 13, 2009 5:26 PM |

On the other hand, DL is traffic accident that has happened.

Posted by: AntonChigurh | March 13, 2009 6:32 PM | Report abuse

"They cut Jason Taylor for not agreeing to attend offseason workouts, but apparently Clinton Portis is immune to that rule. If Zorn is ever going to run this team, he needs to stop setting double standards. You practice, you play; you don't, you ride the pine - and you may be unemployed. That's the way it has to be. Portis squirms out of a lot of practices plus he has been critical of the coach. You can look the other way when a rookie coach lets this slide, but Zorn is no longer a rookie. As for Portis, I wonder what the team could get for him in trade. If the team could get a decent defensive end or linebacker, they could take the risk because they have Betts and Cartwright. I just am not a fan of someone who believes he is above the team. "

It ain't Zorn, It's Danny.

Posted by: johnvandermyde | March 13, 2009 6:34 PM | Report abuse

This Cutler feuding has me thinking that the Broncos may be in the market for one of the top QBs in the draft. Thismight be good news for the skins because most draft have them taking a top DL before the skins.

Posted by: TWISI | March 13, 2009 6:51 PM | Report abuse

OK, for the 11th time, the Skins didn't cut Jason Taylor over offseason workouts.

The Skins are somewhere between $7-$11 million under the cap. If Jason Taylor is still here, the Skins are $1million over to $3million under. That is an untenable situation. You still need to sign 1-2 DE, an OLB, depth on the OL, pay your draft picks and have some $$ left over in case someone gets hurt and you need to bring in a replacement.

Jason Taylor was cut because of (shocking I know) THE MONEY

Posted by: zcezcest1 | March 13, 2009 6:53 PM | Report abuse

In my opinion, you draft Orakpo if he's there, then Maualuga, then 1 of the top three tackles or move back. I would stay away from cushing, there are steroid rumors swirling around him, and a steroid user, even if it was in the past, is bound to have injuries and lots of them (see Brian Bosworth)

Posted by: DaFunBunch | March 13, 2009 7:01 PM | Report abuse

Two Things,

Portis needs to be present @ all times,
when the team assembles at the park.

That doesn't mean he needs to, practice all the time, but he should be on hand.

Moreover, Portis is paid to be a leader, he needs to start acting like one.

In closing.
This club needs to draft, trade, beg, or what ever it takes.
To get there hands on, better than just serviceable, O linemen.

Posted by: dashriprock | March 13, 2009 7:01 PM | Report abuse

And im Mcintosh is going to be a beast this year, im calling it. I've posted about this before, but he will have the whole offseason to get better this year, instead of spending it trying to get back where he was like last year.
Haynesworth will make Griff a stud, and hopefully he won't get hurt and worn down so much now that he wont be getting double teamed. Haynesworth basically gave us a 10-9 man to man advantage on defense, and when the quarterback has the ball, its basically 10-8, and he still beats the double team about half the time.

Posted by: DaFunBunch | March 13, 2009 7:10 PM | Report abuse

If we draft all Defense this year, then its taken care of for at least 5 years. We get a D-end or Linebacker in the 1st round.
we have one of the best safeties in the league, one of the best young safties in the league in horton, rogers was a pro bowl corner before he wore down, probably because of the injury he had the year before, hall is a ball hawk and can cover pretty well. If we find a slot corner, a strong big guy who can tackle well we are set there for the next 5 years. We need to add an OLB now and a MLB for later and we are set there. We need to draft 1 early round D end to play oposite or replace carter, and then sign a D end at some point. The D tackle position is sloved, we have two average starters sitting behind griff and h-money. Then to add on to that we sign one declining veteran star every year, for a cheap 1 year deal, sort of like the 49ers did way back when and we did with millen, and we have a fearsome D for years to come. And then we can focus on the offense, which as it stands currently, may have finished badly last season, but it's not like they have no hope. They were a 1st year offense, and we know they can be very good, see weeks 2-8. If we play our cards right, we will have a ridiculous defense and an offense that has great potential to improve

Posted by: DaFunBunch | March 13, 2009 7:15 PM | Report abuse

If we draft all Defense this year, then its taken care of for at least 5 years.

DaFunBunch

Bit of an overstatement there, but I get your point. Lot of talent there, much of it young. 2 more studs (DE and OLB) would make this an elite defense. Though when Fletcher calls it a day in a couple years, that'll be a big hit.

Posted by: zcezcest1 | March 13, 2009 7:42 PM | Report abuse

problem is we never play our cards right,
if rogers plays well enough that we want to keep him, we wont be able to because we already payed our top corner. only way we get lucky is if there is no cba reached and he is restricted next offseason

Posted by: follybeach | March 13, 2009 7:46 PM | Report abuse

Draft Moreno and trade Portis?

Posted by: Redskins001 | March 13, 2009 7:56 PM | Report abuse

zorn is dumb and he sucks.but cerrato sucks dumber

Posted by: DLESMonday | March 13, 2009 9:00 PM | Report abuse

I'm tellin' ya'll...we keep running Portis 30 times a game and he won't last to week 10. Mix it up...Throw to Betts out the backfield....

Oh...and on a previous post, someone said we should run Sellars more...uh....no! I'd rather him catch it than run it.

Posted by: rickyroge | March 13, 2009 9:05 PM | Report abuse

Oh...and on a previous post, someone said we should run Sellars more...uh....no! I'd rather him catch it than run it.

Posted by: rickyroge

Is that because if he bobbles a pass, it falls incomplete whereas if he fumbles on a run, the Bengals take over at the 1 and our chance to make the playoffs gets destroyed?

Posted by: zcezcest1 | March 13, 2009 9:19 PM | Report abuse

For the guy who said Zorn sucks who exactly do you want to coach this team to make you happy. Give the guy a chance. If they fire zorn, isn't it just starting over again?

Posted by: Redskins001 | March 13, 2009 9:28 PM | Report abuse

I want to slap everybody that writes "first" on these post.

Posted by: PEACE8 | March 13, 2009 9:30 PM | Report abuse

Does anyone ever wonder how much better this team would look had it not traveled to Auburn to look more closely at Rogers, become enamored with Campbell and drafted both in the same 2005 first round?
In that one campus visit, lay the Redskins' mediocrity over the last four seasons.
This team needs to stop overrating the talent we have i.e. Campbell, Rogers, Samuels, Portis, Moss and gut this team.
PS: Pioli would have been the best offseason move this team could have made

Posted by: hehateme | March 13, 2009 9:34 PM | Report abuse

I want to slap everybody that writes "first" on these post.

Posted by: PEACE8 | March 13, 2009 9:30 PM

I think you're the first who's wanted to do that! Congratuations on being first!

Posted by: talent_evaluator | March 13, 2009 9:47 PM | Report abuse

This team needs to stop overrating the talent we have i.e. Campbell, Rogers, Samuels, Portis, Moss and gut this team.

Posted by: hehateme | March 13, 2009 9:34 PM

hateme--

Overrated? Samuels and Portis were both just selected for the Pro Bowl.

Posted by: talent_evaluator | March 13, 2009 9:53 PM | Report abuse

if the skins draft Smith, at 13 they win in two areas, one is he can start at right tackle, right now and he can be the eventual replacement for Samuels, down the line at left tackle, if he can keep his weight in check 3rd you if say a tackles like sean sester, of perdue, or Phil Loadholt, of Okalhoma, ends up in the third round the skins should jump on it, this can secure the skins line at the tackle spot, 5rnd this is where you can find starting sam backer someone like Ian campbell from kansas state, as for depth you can build depth at both backer guard, and center from free agents. as for replacement for Randy thomas at right guard the question is how far along is Chad reinhart to being starter there.

Posted by: rmnkevorkian | March 13, 2009 10:24 PM | Report abuse

zorn is dumb and he sucks.but cerrato sucks dumber

Posted by: DLESMonday | March 13, 2009 9:00 PM

lol. not sure why.

I am tired of our 3 super bowl trophies being pimped out at all the news conferences in front of people who had nothing to do with them. Leave them in the display case and go earn one jerkoffs.

Posted by: Posse81_83_84 | March 13, 2009 10:28 PM | Report abuse

To all the Tobacco Road sneaker-sniffers out there:

LET'S GOOOOOOOO MARYLAND!!

Posted by: p1funk | March 13, 2009 10:34 PM | Report abuse

First, the Pro Bowl is a popularity contest.
Second, even the most causal of observers can see that Portis cannot make anyone miss in the secondary and lacks the burst to break big runs. Portis' first half was good, but one may argue that Betts could have put up comparable numbers.
Moreover, Samuels is the Redskins most consistent lineman, but he has been beaten regularly over the years by the league's better defensive ends.

Posted by: hehateme | March 13, 2009 10:37 PM | Report abuse

If PORTIS is bored of football, he should give up the balance of his contract and do charity work. Makes the coach look like a chump.

Posted by: glawrence007 | March 13, 2009 10:55 PM | Report abuse

Moreover, Samuels is the Redskins most consistent lineman, but he has been beaten regularly over the years by the league's better defensive ends.
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Any numbers to back that up?

Posted by: lifelongfan | March 13, 2009 10:57 PM | Report abuse

If Blache had a Dexter Manley at DE, he'd find a way to use him in a pass rush. He had an Andre Carter. Not the same.

Posted by: zcezcest1 | March 13, 2009 6:18 PM | Report abuse

OK. Not quite sure how this fits into our discussion. We don't have Dexter and he's not in the draft, so I'm not sure what the point is.

There's a reason that we are ready to sign Daniels and Wynn, why we were interested in Canty, why we made a play (albeit a weak one) to get Evans back, and were fine with cutting Jason Taylor. The reason is Blache's defensive philosophy, which is to bookend the line with run-first DEs, bottle up the play and have the DTs and safeties bring the pressure.

Spending #13 money on a DE that some folks are talking about standing up as a 3-4 backer simply doesn't make sense unless Blache is planning on a new defensive scheme.

Posted by: p1funk | March 14, 2009 1:46 AM | Report abuse

We need an edge rusher for sure two words "Brian Orakpo" He will be the next LT (the original). What other Redskins fans need to understand is we have to build the team for the division not the league. We haven't won a division championship since 1999. I would love Orakpo but please Danny/Vinnie don't give up any 2010 picks to move up this year to get him, there are other edge rushers in the draft. But if you did have to give up something I would rather it be on Brian O than last year’s Jason Taylor fiasco. A #2 and #6 next year I think (Bill Parcell) stuck it to us again we can't shake this guy even when he’s not in our division. Devin, Malcolm and Fred need to step up BIG TIME if Zorn’s passing game is going to have success and I believe they will this year. All NFL GM's agree you must have a QB, LT, edge rusher to be successful in the NFL. I think we have 2 of the 3 pieces. So it plays like this:

(1) EDGE RUSHER
(2) Trade
(3) OL
(4) Trade
(5) OL
(6) DB
(7) Trade

And where they heck are the undrafted FA that play like James Harrison, Joe Jacoby come on now we can’t find one diamond in the rough. Until the redskins can find talent on a day other than draft day it will be tough to compete. Danny/Vinnie keep your dag burn draft picks they are like gold and if you can’t use them on anything else draft linemen like the eagles. Another thing most GOOD GM’s know is you can’t not have enough quality linemen and I think you can get them for considerably cheaper than 100 million a pop if you SAVE YOUR FREAKIN DRAFT PICKS. As a 35 year member of Redskins Nation I bleed burgundy and gold but I can’t stand the product that’s been put on the field the last couple of years. Try this OL, DL, OL, DL, OL, DL, and OL or reverse it anyway you get the idea, don’t you?

Posted by: DB14 | March 14, 2009 1:52 AM | Report abuse

Clinton Portis is done. He is going to be out a lot more this year.Practice were taliking about practice man

Posted by: skinsfanfrmbirth | March 14, 2009 1:58 AM | Report abuse

Boy, the of-season blog is really...off.

Posted by: _Stumped_ | March 14, 2009 3:06 AM | Report abuse

Cant sleep, just to chime in real quick.. I dont think it is Portis' legs. Rather, his arms.

He wraps the ball up with two arms now, probably Gibbs teaching. Do you know how hard it is to cut on a dime. break a player with a stutter step, etc... when you cant use your other arm for counter balance?

You saw him break that guy 2 years ago (i know, I know, only reference) in Minny close to the goal line. That is the last time he jocked someone. It was beautiul. And he held the ball out and used his other arm for counter balance.

Just another thought...

Posted by: Zeebs | March 14, 2009 3:25 AM | Report abuse

Oh come on, it's not that difficult. QB the most important position on the field, all the debates still about whether Jason's the man and whether CP still has gas in the tank. Having a revolving door at RT means we'll never know the answers. Unless they really feel the OLs left at 13 are a total stretch, it has to be a tackle. Of course LB in the 3rd or FA, but if we go into the season clenching our cheeks on every short yardage play knowing we have to run left, it's going to be te-di-ous...

Posted by: mikeysuperdons | March 14, 2009 5:34 AM | Report abuse

Apparently, Albert Haynesworth needs to changes his name. He now needs to be known as Albert TheNFL'sHighestPaidDefensivePlayer.

Have we beaten this horse enough yet? Or can we keep beating it a while?

Jason WaPo'sMostNegativeColumnist?

Posted by: SonofNero | March 13, 2009 3:26 PM | Report abuse

ROFLMAO, but you are dead-on!

Posted by: frediefritz | March 14, 2009 8:39 AM | Report abuse

Here is my impression of the blog off season this year.

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Posted by: alex35332 | March 14, 2009 9:20 AM | Report abuse

Posted by: 4thFloor | March 14, 2009 10:10 AM | Report abuse

Avoid WATCHMAN.

Nothing more to be said.

Posted by: MistaMoe | March 14, 2009 10:57 AM | Report abuse

One of our estimable posters came across some sack stats and was perplexed by what he found for pro bowl tackle Jason Peters from the Bills:
"Wow, nevermind, I just found a website that has Peters listed as giving up 11.5 sacks (dead last for a left tackle) this past season."
Leave us inquire into why a sack stat alone is not a complete measure of a lineman's pass protecting prowess.

1. You have to factor in holding stats. Holding stats and sack stats are interchangeable. If the dud hadn't held the DL/LB, he would have been charged with a sack. But either way the offense is set back 10 yards.
2. Sacks are a function of what kind of offensive plays are run. If a team uses the shotgun a lot this will keep the sack count down. Also, if a team has a porous OL, it is forced to used the TE and RB for blocking. This keeps the sack count down but it severely limits what the offense can do in terms of the kinds of plays that can be run.
3. Exactly what is a sack stat count as it pertains to a particular OL such as Jason Peters? For instance, if the defense blitzes and 5 OL have to hold off 7 blitzers then the QB will be sacked and some poor OL will be charged with a sack (it usually is the LT) but 7 against 5 ain't fair.
4. The QB. We all know how this works. The QB holds the ball for 10 seconds and finally a DL gets to him. Or the QB gets happy feet and doesn't stay in the pocket. Or the QB doesn't find the outlet receiver when the defense blitzes. Etc.

Hence there are numerous reasons why one has to look beyond simple sack counts to understand how things work. Fortunately, guys like Vinnie and Jim and his coaches have high-priced consultants with tons of propriety data they can slice and dice a million different ways to give them a true picture of what is going on. It is pressing the envelope of plausibility to expect that us RI posters with pea brains and limited data access could figure out the enormous complexities of the game.

Posted by: AntonChigurh | March 14, 2009 11:12 AM | Report abuse

“Leave us inquire into why a sack stat alone is not a complete measure of a lineman's pass protecting prowess.”

Posted by: AntonChigurh |

There are many dimensions to most all stats/ratings that are tracked. We all understand this… no need to post pea brain insults directed at “posters” in the RI blog

Posted by: all_star_0013 | March 14, 2009 11:25 AM | Report abuse

Posted by: 4thFloor | March 14, 2009 11:28 AM | Report abuse

4thfloor

Moe read the story embedded in the link you sent.

It seems the Chinese have issues with their financial system supporting our debt.

This concern of theirs run the opposite to our concern for the lead-based poisonous toys they sell to our children.

I suggest we trade concerns as I'd rather lose money than bury a child.

Lost in the translation of the story is that the Chinese, like so much of Asia, are crazy about fried chicken.

Imagine that.

Perhaps if President Obama could sit down with the leaders of China over a four piece wing dinner from Popeye's topped off with dirty rice, dem biscuits, mac n cheese, a drank, and some greens, all of our concerns will be solved in healthy belches and thunderous farts.

They'll forgive our debt, and we, their gas.

And when they ask President Obama if the US will honor its debts, he'll wave off their concerns by saying, "Yes, we might."

Posted by: MistaMoe | March 14, 2009 11:41 AM | Report abuse

There are many dimensions to most all stats/ratings that are tracked. We all understand this… no need to post pea brain insults directed at “posters” in the RI blog

Posted by: all_star_0013 | March 14, 2009 11:25 AM |

Sorry if I insulted you. I was trying to be sarcastic. IMO even though there are "advisors" and "consultants" who purport to have all the answers, in truth they are just as clueless as the rest of us. One need look no farther than the product on the field to verify the truth of this.

Posted by: AntonChigurh | March 14, 2009 11:54 AM | Report abuse

Perhaps if President Obama could sit down with the leaders of China over a four piece wing dinner from Popeye's topped off with dirty rice, dem biscuits, mac n cheese, a drank, and some greens, all of our concerns will be solved in healthy belches and thunderous farts.

Posted by: MistaMoe | March 14, 2009 11:41 AM |

Hate to be the ants at your picnic, but this sounds more like a possible story line for the next Judd Apatow flick than the answer to the Skins' OL miseries.

Posted by: AntonChigurh | March 14, 2009 12:04 PM | Report abuse

http://www.nfldraftscout.com/ratings/dsprofile.php?pyid=73155&draftyear=2009&genpos=OLB

Here's your next LB.....

Posted by: 4thFloor | March 14, 2009 11:28 AM | Report abuse
I like that approach. Premier OT's are not available too often. If one is available, we should grab him. I still feel A Smith will be a stud for 10 years.

Then in 3rd we should get a Sam LB like Jason Williams from Western Illinois.

To me, that would be a very successful draft.

Posted by: frediefritz | March 14, 2009 12:13 PM | Report abuse

Posted by: mehtadman87 | March 13, 2009 4:09 PM
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Are you functionally retarded?

Posted by: Tyler2Durden | March 14, 2009 12:23 PM | Report abuse

Anton

Your analysis notwithstanding, the comment that some of us posters don't understand the complexities of NFL offensive line play is a little condescending.

Offensive lines--and defensive lines-- are considered as whole entities as are any other unit on a team and should be graded as same.

Offensive lines use a variety of line calls to initiate protections based on the number of players the defense has lined up to one side of the offensive formations--the center usually makes these calls and they stop a pulling guard or cause the entire line to 'slide' or 'squeeze' or 'fold block' or 'double team' or 'chip' et al where necessary.

All of this is coordinated with the calls the quarterback makes during his snap count as the entire offense--including the running backs and wide outs in motion--is making sure there are enough blockers on one side of the formation or the other to protect the quarterback.

Modern 3-4 hybrid defenses are confounding as they shift from one defensive front to the next--sometimes while the quarterback is in mid-cadence: this 'attacking the proctection' concept is why teams like the ravens, stillers, iggles get turnovers and sacks so easily and its why the skins should adopt some of the concepts into their scheme.

BTW: None of this isn't a complex concept for anyone who actually understands what he sees in a NFL game.

Posted by: MistaMoe | March 14, 2009 12:23 PM | Report abuse

Posted by: AntonChigurh
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Great Name!!!!!!

Posted by: Tyler2Durden | March 14, 2009 12:28 PM | Report abuse

Might I suggest reading the post a few times so that you actually take in the intention of the author? Clearly Anton was being sarcastic about the way "great football minds" look down on the media that cover them and the fans that support them.

Posted by: Tyler2Durden | March 14, 2009 12:32 PM | Report abuse

Might I also suggest that being critical of the FO and personnel moves reflects the desire of the individual to see their beloved team field a perennial contender in lieu of a constant bust.
A wise man once said "If you want the weather to change, wait 5 minutes. If you want my opinion to change....GO *#&! YOURSELF!!" Well stated Sir Steven Colbert.

Posted by: Tyler2Durden | March 14, 2009 12:37 PM | Report abuse

"Clearly Anton was being sarcastic about the way "great football minds" look down on the media that cover them and the fans that support them.

Posted by: Tyler2Durden"

Which points directly to the condescending nature of the post, as he clearly was insinuating that the "RI posters" have simpleton minds that don't understand the complexities of the game. Which is an extremely bold statement to make considering it's very difficult to know the football background of any of the posters on here, especially given the "complex" examples used in the post were not complex at all, and so basic in nature that simple fans who have never studied the game in depth would understand without being reminded.

Posted by: psps23 | March 14, 2009 12:59 PM | Report abuse

STALLWORTH DETAINED IN PEDESTRIAN FATALITY
Posted by Mike Florio on March 14, 2009, 12:22 p.m.
Friday was a good day for Browns receiver Donte’ Stallworth. As of 4:00 p.m. EDT, he officially earned a $4.875 million roster bonus.

But Saturday is turning out to be a very bad day for the one-time first-round pick. According to CBS4 in Miami, Stallworth has been detained after an automobile accident that killed a pedestrian.

Per the report, the accident happened at the intersection of Fisher Island Drive and the MacCarthur Causeway in Miami.

We’ve separately been advised that police are investigating whether Stallworth was driving under the influence. According to a source with knowledge of the investigation, authorities performed a mandatory blood draw on Stallworth, and they are awaiting the results of the test.

We’re also told that prosecutors are involved, and charges could be filed very soon.

Stallworth, per the source, was driving a Bentley. As our own Aaron Wilson discovered while chasing the tip we’d received (yeah, we were responsible and tried to confirm before posting . . . for a change), Stallworth was arrested in 2006 while driving a Bentley. According to USLaw.com, Stallworth was busted after he refused to turn of his cell phone and shut off the engine after a traffic stop for driving with an expired license.

Wilson is in the process of gathering more details, and he might be posting a follow-up soon.

And let’s not forget that someone died what by all appearances was a preventable death. We hope that, regardless of what happened, the tragedy will cause the Donte’ Stallworths and Albert Haynesworths of the NFL to be a lot more careful in the future when driving their cars.

Coincidentally, Stallworth and Haynesworth both played college football at Tennessee, and both were picked in the first round of the 2002 draft, only two selections apart.

Posted by: 4thFloor | March 14, 2009 1:03 PM | Report abuse

If you paralzyed someone and made 100 million dollars recently, wouldn't you want to help them out?

Posted by: YourPsychologist | March 13, 2009 4:38 PM


No. Granted I'm a cold hearted bastard, but the truth still stands.

Posted by: ecale25 | March 14, 2009 1:35 PM | Report abuse

I thought Moss, Portis, and many other The U alumni participate in a special training session, each March, to workout with college football players. That is why they usually miss a few days of the early OTAs...

It's not like Taylor, where he just wanted to stay home with his kids.

Posted by: siris | March 14, 2009 1:51 PM | Report abuse

Love your post mikeysuperdons @ March 14, 2009 5:34 AM.

Especially the part about what we'll be doing on short yardage (LOL!).

Tienes razon! (you make sense!)

Posted by: Alan4 | March 14, 2009 2:00 PM | Report abuse

The U alumni participate in a special training session, each March, to workout with college football players.

Posted by: siris | March 14, 2009 1:51 PM

Early March is spring break at the U. All the workouts are in Acapulco.

Posted by: talent_evaluator | March 14, 2009 2:17 PM | Report abuse

Hey mehtadman87: I agree that the biggest hole on the Skins RIGHT NOW/this year is SLB. They have only Fincher and Blades (out of position) to play a very important position in the defense. One of the reasons why the Skins didn't generate defensive pressure last year; were the injuries to Marcus Washington and his inability to successfully execute fire zone blitzes. They have to find someone who can do that and I doubt Fincher is that guy.

Resigning Washington would just be a stop gap for another year -- as would Daniels at LDE or Jansen at RT.

Other starting holes to be filled in the next two years -- include LDE, RT, and RG. When healthy, the older guys manning those positions are good (Jansen, Thomas, and Daniels). But as we observed last year -- you just can't count on older linemen to remain healthy for the entire season... It's the responsibility of the GM and coaches to insure viable backups are on the roster and ready to play at a high level when necessary.

Posted by: siris | March 14, 2009 2:26 PM | Report abuse

BTW, I still think the Skins have the option of drafting either a RT, SLB, or LDE with the #13 pick in the draft or trading down. However, they have to find a starting caliber SLB at some point before the season starts...

Posted by: siris | March 14, 2009 2:30 PM | Report abuse

"I agree that the biggest hole on the Skins RIGHT NOW/this year is SLB."

As of right now, the Skins are banking on Rob Jackson or Chris Wilson to start at LDE. Those a far worse starting options than Blades at SLB, and that's not considering that LDE is a more critical position than SLB.

They will need to acquire starters at both positions, but top priority should be going to LDE first. The Skins can survive with Blades, who played a significant rotational role and at least has some starting experience (although minimal). I can't say the same about Chris Wilson, who totaled 14 tackles last season, played sparingly, and has never started a game, let alone Rob Jackson, who only played in 3 games last year, with a total of 1 tackle.

Posted by: psps23 | March 14, 2009 3:26 PM | Report abuse

My Take for what is worth:

RD 1 OT, good tackles don't tend to drop to 3rd round often w/o baggage.
** If a trading partner can be found to move up skins could trade down but prob w/ that is you need a partner, maybe if one of the QBs falls to 13 someonle like the lions (#20) may want to move up if they take OT #1. If a trade can be done than I say OT rd 1 then LB, DE, or OG in rd #2, best available players at those positions of need OL,DL, LB for the rest of the way, but PLEASE no trades of next yrs picks!!! Just another note I think that w/ the increase of available info compared to when we saw players like Jacoby sign as an UDFA , it is a lot harder to find a player that everybody missed.

Just my opinion we all have them and they are like ___Holes.

Posted by: Deadfish | March 14, 2009 3:31 PM | Report abuse

I should add that both positions should not be addressed in the 1st round of the draft. That pick should be set aside for addressing the offensive line, one way or another. It's not as big of an immediate need, but it's most certainly the biggest future need.

Posted by: psps23 | March 14, 2009 3:33 PM | Report abuse

Other starting holes to be filled in the next two years -- include LDE, RT, and RG.
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Posted by: siris | March 14, 2009 2:26 PM
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And Casey Edward Rabach.

He's no spring chicken.
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Posted by: ifthethunderdontgetya | March 14, 2009 3:49 PM | Report abuse

I'm a little concerned with the Stallworth incident that Goodell may feel the need to show that the NFL is cracking down on careless drivers in their Ferrari's and Bentleys. Just a bad feeling in the pit of my stomach. Of course that could just be that gas station burrito I just ate. So who knows.

Posted by: will_ga | March 14, 2009 3:58 PM | Report abuse

OT Rylan Reed from Texas Tech did 41 reps on the bench press. More than anyone at the combine. Of course he blew his knee on the 40 yrd sprint....

Posted by: will_ga | March 14, 2009 4:05 PM | Report abuse

+++Anton

Your analysis notwithstanding, the comment that some of us posters don't understand the complexities of NFL offensive line play is a little condescending.++---MISTAMOE

YOUR analysis notwithstanding, Condescension is the Lingua Franca of RI, if not the entire Webbomatic-blogospheroid-interconnect.

I can say that because I'm smarter than you.

Posted by: TheCork | March 14, 2009 4:21 PM | Report abuse

I can say that because I'm smarter than you.

Posted by: TheCork | March 14, 2009 4:21 PM
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Pffft!

I only quote people like Corkie because I believe in enabling the vast unwashed populace that...ummm...populates our great nation!

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Posted by: ifthethunderdontgetya | March 14, 2009 4:36 PM | Report abuse

+++Cork,

Stop acting all high and mighty, lots of people get in traffic accidents...You just love any chance you get to take shots at the team.+++ Flounder21 YESTERDAY MORNING

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Browns' Stallworth hits, kills pedestrian in Florida

MIAMI BEACH, Fla. -- Police in Miami Beach say Cleveland Browns wide receiver Donte Stallworth has hit and killed a pedestrian with his Bentley....++++ ASSOCIATED PRESS, THIS MORNING

OMG, Flounder. It's like you're a PSYCHIC or something.

For the record, is this accident okay in your book too? Because none of us want to be accused of making a big deal over it, like so many of us did with Haynesworth's wreck.

Posted by: TheCork | March 14, 2009 4:37 PM | Report abuse

For the record, is this accident okay in your book too? Because none of us want to be accused of making a big deal over it, like so many of us did with Haynesworth's wreck.


Posted by: TheCork | March 14, 2009 4:37 PM |
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For someone who says nothing time and again but nonetheless employs a great number of pixels, you sure do use "we" and "us" a lot.

And you should stop being so frigging obvious in your bitterness toward those who are both intellectually and financially superior to you.

Just because you're a broke, lonely maggot doesn't mean the rest of the world is as bitter as you are.

Bite that pillow, pal. Hard.

Selah.

Posted by: MrRedskin21 | March 14, 2009 4:55 PM | Report abuse

Dang.

My Corkie post was meant to be ironic and funny.

Heck, what's funnier than a buncha cowboys eatin' beans and fartin'?

Anyways, this is a long way of saying I like the Cork's posts, even if they occasionally provide me with a ripe Target™ (tar-jay).
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Posted by: ifthethunderdontgetya | March 14, 2009 5:05 PM | Report abuse

Go, Duke!

Go home, Terps!

Fear the Blue Devil.

Posted by: talent_evaluator | March 14, 2009 6:21 PM | Report abuse

Last offseason the Redskins conjured up a plan that involved two first round draft picks for one Ocho Cinco.*****

Anyone here wish that had happened? I am glad it did not, even though our WR's suck.

Posted by: lsskinsfan | March 14, 2009 6:35 PM | Report abuse

Last offseason the Redskins conjured up a plan that involved two first round draft picks for one Ocho Cinco.*****

Anyone here wish that had happened? I am glad it did not, even though our WR's suck.

Posted by: lsskinsfan | March 14, 2009 6:35 PM |

Was it two? Whew! The dude was a bust in 2008 but, to be fair, Palmer was out for most of the season I think. And now there are some suggestions that the Skins should be in the hunt for Boldin with at least one 1st rounder in exchange. Here too it is hard to tell what is what - is it him or Warner?

Posted by: AntonChigurh | March 14, 2009 7:20 PM | Report abuse

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