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Jansen, Horton Could Play Sunday

The Redskins said an MRI revealed that starting right tackle Jon Jansen has a sprained medial collateral ligament. He has not been ruled out for Sunday's game against the Bengals in Cincinnati.

Starting safety Chris Horton has a shoulder sprain, but the MRI revealed no structural damage, and he is day-to-day.

By Jason La Canfora  |  December 8, 2008; 3:12 PM ET
 
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Does Horton need a shoulder to play?

Posted by: alex35332 | December 8, 2008 3:17 PM | Report abuse

Is this the first time he's been injured this year, cause he's been playing like he's been hurt all year!

Posted by: TheTruth11 | December 8, 2008 3:17 PM | Report abuse

No way that he does, thats just such a huge step in the wrong direction.

Posted by: BeantownGreg | December 8, 2008 3:06 PM

Greg, that was just a 'thinking from Snyder's POV'.

He may see this as a failure (bringing in the WCO) that his Rookie HC is the worst of them all. Especially if all of them get in the playoffs.

He may think it is better to fire now, then wait and do it later.

Just thinking from his POV. None of this is of my opinion. But, I wouldn't put it past Snyder. He has a track record.

(If this disastorous scenario would happen, I would root for Buges to come in and continue to right the ship the 'Redskin' way. Everything in these parenthesis are of my opinion, not Snyder's)

Posted by: 4thFloor | December 8, 2008 3:18 PM | Report abuse

Alex - Yes he does. Did you not see him launch himself like a missile to force the runner back inside yesterday?

Posted by: 4thFloor | December 8, 2008 3:20 PM | Report abuse

Jansen? Horton? The real question is Mr. Lack of Accuracy aka, Jason Campbell, will be benched-- like McNabb was recently-- when he's missing open receivers and holding the ball too long-- some of those sacks are his fault, too.

Posted by: MistaMoe | December 8, 2008 3:25 PM | Report abuse

"No way that he does, thats just such a huge step in the wrong direction.

Posted by: BeantownGreg"

Just my opinion, but if a guy like Bill Cowher stepped in early this offseason, instituted a smashmouth, dual-tailback running game, deep playaction type passing game, and put us back into the NFC East, punch-you-in-the-mouth mentality, this team would improve dramatically. And that would be a huge step in the right direction, IMO.

Posted by: psps23 | December 8, 2008 3:25 PM | Report abuse

Shirley they wouldn't willingly let Jansen go back out on the field again??

This is from an article about the Fins, but I've cut and pasted part that could be interesting for you guys:

“I learned that football can’t be your god,” Pennington said Sunday. “Because I wasn’t starting, I took stock of everything, spent time with my family [his wife, Robin, is pregnant with the couple’s third son] and figured out a healthier way to approach my job.”

If this is Chill Chad, some of his new teammates might have a hard time believing it. Immediately following a team meeting the night before a preseason game against the Jacksonville Jaguars shortly after his arrival, Pennington told the offensive skill players to stay behind for a private cram session. The responses ranged from eye-rolls to double-takes to clenched fists.

“At first we were like, ‘Ughhhhhhhh,’ ” recalled halfback Ricky Williams, “Then, after awhile, we started understanding. He just likes to know. He likes to know what we’re thinking in every situation, and ultimately that’s good for us.”

Soon Pennington had created a weekly schedule of extra meetings for players only: Wednesdays with his receivers, Thursdays with the linemen and Fridays with all of Miami’s skill players.

“It’s a chance for all of us to talk and get on the same page,” Pennington explained. “There are a lot of things we discuss, and I think it serves as a calming influence for each guy. With the receivers, we talk a lot about splits and alignments and ball placement – ‘Where exactly would you like to receive the ball?’ And I’ll do my best to throw it there.”

Sunday’s lone touchdown, Pennington’s 20-yard pass to tight end Anthony Fasano between a pair of Bills defensive backs with 6:48 left in the first quarter, was a direct result of an adjustment made in last Friday’s meeting.

“In Wednesday’s practice when we ran that play, I had thrown a pick to the safety,” Pennington said. “So we talked about the angle, and we decided to run it skinnier.”

Translation: Fasano made a less dramatic cut from right to left in front of strong safety Donte Whitner, and Pennington (23 of 29, 181 yards, no interceptions) got the ball to him before free safety Ko Simpson could break up the pass from the other side.

http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/news;_ylt=AnPtCZ.cFSdqVkN8hBaVtmNDubYF?slug=ms-morningrush120808&prov=yhoo&type=lgns

I know that Chad is a vet player, but do you believe there is any chance that if Jason insists on these sort of meetings, your guys on offense turn up? If the answer is 'no' that might be part of your problem. If the answer is 'yes' then why aren't they doing it?

To give you greater context, both Vonnie Holiday and Joey Porter both said yesterday that the signing on Pennington was the greatest reason for the turnaround in Miami's play this year. It also mentions Jason Taylor in passing...

Posted by: Redcoat | December 8, 2008 3:28 PM | Report abuse

Did anyone else hear Al Michaels praise Clinton Portis last night for playing with a knee, a rib, and a neck? Imagine what Michaels would have said if Portis was playing without those things.

Posted by: psps23 | December 8, 2008 3:29 PM | Report abuse

This is starting to get ugly. Answer one question please. What does " THE BUG MAN" have agaist "HYER" ? Why keep putting that old slow white guy in the starting line up ? Why waist a 3rd on a guy who can't help at the end of the season. ?

Posted by: Daggarforracialjustice | December 8, 2008 3:31 PM | Report abuse

Just my opinion, but if a guy like Bill Cowher stepped in early this offseason, instituted a smashmouth, dual-tailback running game, deep playaction type passing game, and put us back into the NFC East, punch-you-in-the-mouth mentality, this team would improve dramatically. And that would be a huge step in the right direction, IMO.

Posted by: psps23 | December 8, 2008 3:25 PM

It is something to dream about, but frankly, that ship has sailed. If Cowher wanted to come back next year he'll have plenty of options that may be more appealing, such as Dallas, San Diego, or even Cleveland where he used to play.

Posted by: Predator48 | December 8, 2008 3:31 PM | Report abuse

My favorite line from this story:

"I'm a better player now by leaps and bounds," Kelly said. "I'm doing so many different things. This offense uses me to my abilities."

Malcolm Kelly glad he opted for NFL sooner than later

http://www.dallasnews.com/s/dws/nwsltr/sports/fromthe50/stories/120308dnspoinsidethenfl.236d258b.html

Posted by: Peaux_Sucent | December 8, 2008 3:32 PM | Report abuse

I'm immediately turning my TV and radio off if Jon Jansen takes one step on the field Sunday.

Posted by: yellow_jacket98 | December 8, 2008 3:32 PM | Report abuse

psp, Cowher's retired, you want to play madden, or you want to talk about reality?

Posted by: BeantownGreg | December 8, 2008 3:32 PM | Report abuse

If I cut the draft another way, guys who have been good players, by round, we'll see another trend. I consider backups as guys who are on the field a good bit (ie, not Malcom Kelly)

Round 1: 5 picks, 4 starters, 1 backup (Ramsey)
Round 2: 6 picks, 1 starter (Rocky), 2 backups
Round 3: 5 picks, 2 starters
Round 4: 2 picks, nothing
Round 5: 5 picks, 1 starter, 1 backup
Round 6: 9 picks, 1 starter, 3 backups
Round 7: 10 picks: 1 starter, 1 backup

Odds that a pick becomes a starter/player
Round
1 -- 80%/100%
2 -- 16%/50%
3 -- 40%/40%
4 -- 0%
5 -- 20%/40%
6 -- 11%/33%
7 -- 10%/20%

4/5 first round picks became starters (80%)(Taylor, Landry, Rogers and Campbell)

From round 2-7, 6/39 players became starters (15%) (Rocky, Dockery, Cooley, Royal, Golston, Horton). I didn't include Rock Cartwright, (7th round pick) as a starter, but he does play a lot on teams and could be considered a starter by some.

Posted by: zcezcest1 | December 8, 2008 3:33 PM | Report abuse

that was sarcasm.

BTW, it sounds like the Arena Football League is going bankrupt

Posted by: alex35332 | December 8, 2008 3:34 PM | Report abuse

And that would be a huge step in the right direction, IMO.

Posted by: psps23 | December 8, 2008 3:25 PM |

I believe you have bandwagon you would like people to join.

And let me be the FIRST to hop on it.

(I hate the WCO and it does not belong in the NFC east. It doesn't belong on the whole east coast for that matter.)

Posted by: 4thFloor | December 8, 2008 3:34 PM | Report abuse

Cowher has choices. If its about the money, Danny can get him. But I don't think Cowher is all about the $$$. I think there is almost zero chance Cowher would work for Danny

Posted by: zcezcest1 | December 8, 2008 3:35 PM | Report abuse

+++I'm immediately turning my TV and radio off if Jon Jansen takes one step on the field Sunday.

Posted by: yellow_jacket98 |+++

I'll alert the Media

Posted by: TheCork | December 8, 2008 3:36 PM | Report abuse

Jansen ought to be on the bench. But if its him or Fabini, well, at least were playing the Bengals.

Posted by: zcezcest1 | December 8, 2008 3:37 PM | Report abuse

(I hate the WCO and it does not belong in the NFC east. It doesn't belong on the whole east coast for that matter)

4th, you're better than this. Philly runs the WCO, you're telling me that when they were winning back, to back, to back, to back NFC East Titles, you don't want that offense?

Whateves, I guess. I don't care what type of offense the Redskins run, as long as they can start to score more points.....

Posted by: BeantownGreg | December 8, 2008 3:37 PM | Report abuse

So could I paraphrase the two sides of this argument as:

7. "The sky is falling", or,
f. "Stay the course; we're on track. A thousand points of light"??

Posted by: Redcoat | December 8, 2008 2:34 PM

RC- I read it more as "My Visanthe is bigger than your Shiancoe"...

http://awfulannouncing.blogspot.com/2008/12/fox-camera-picks-up-something-extra-in.html

Posted by: 4-12 | December 8, 2008 3:38 PM | Report abuse

psp, Cowher's retired, you want to play madden, or you want to talk about reality?

Posted by: BeantownGreg

Again, IF greg, if. Joe Gibbs and Bill Parcells were once retired as well.

Posted by: psps23 | December 8, 2008 3:38 PM | Report abuse

I do not hate the WC offense. But I think its starting to become out of date, and what I hate is that the spread offense is probably replacing it.

Posted by: alex35332 | December 8, 2008 3:39 PM | Report abuse

Greg - Cowher is coming back. Listen to Charlie Casserly. He works in the SAME EXACT studio as Cowher on Sundays. Cowher is spoonfeeding him info and Casserly always includes Cowher as HC canidates for next year.....

Clevland may want Schottenheimer back....

Norv isn't going anywhere....

Jason Garret still is HC in waiting @ Dallas....

I'm starting to believe this was an effort to get Cowher next year. Zorn has been set up to fail. He is not a HC right now and looks overwhelmed......

Posted by: 4thFloor | December 8, 2008 3:40 PM | Report abuse

I sure wish Zorny would give Jansen the Portis treatment.

Posted by: Predator48 | December 8, 2008 3:40 PM | Report abuse

Clearly its all OJ's fault

Posted by: alex35332 | December 8, 2008 3:40 PM | Report abuse

Hey 4-12, did they explain why Henry Kissinger was handing out the game balls?

Posted by: Redcoat | December 8, 2008 3:41 PM | Report abuse

Here's a great conspiracy theory for you...

"Jim Zorn was brought to DC to keep the HC's seat warm for Mike Holmgren, who had to work out his notice in Seattle. They used Jim Mora as cover for this in the interview process, but really Mora was acting as Holmgren's negotiator. Zorn will revert to QB coach when Holmgren takes over in January."

Plausible?

Posted by: Redcoat | December 8, 2008 3:44 PM | Report abuse

so let me get this straight, people want to pull the plug on Zorn, after only 1 season, just to bring in cowher, who is gonna put in his systems, and take 2-4 years to get his type of guys in place. So from now till 2012, you're not going to have any problems with losing seasons every year....am I hear that right??

Posted by: BeantownGreg | December 8, 2008 3:45 PM | Report abuse

beep beep

Posted by: BeantownGreg | December 8, 2008 3:47 PM | Report abuse

It doesn't have to take 2-4 years Greg. The Fins returned only 24 of last year's roster. But you DO need a shrewd GM and plenty of draft picks - preferably other people's - and for that, we Miami fans thank you next year and San Diego (for Chris Chambers) this year. :)

Posted by: Redcoat | December 8, 2008 3:50 PM | Report abuse

Well if it came down to it, yes, I trust Bill Cowher's ability to implement his system both in the short and long-term moreso than I trust Zorn's ability to do the same. Sue me.

Posted by: psps23 | December 8, 2008 3:54 PM | Report abuse

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