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JZ and JC (With Afternoon Update)

JReid send this note on the offense:

In another small step on offense, the Redskins began to install screen passes in the morning practice.
"When we put in another big group, you see things really working," Coach Jim Zorn said. "This was the first day we put in the screen, so that was very successful. The next time we run it, it may or may not work, because [the defense] ... they're going to adjust to what we're putting in as well.
"That's how offense and defense works. That's what makes football work. It's all about adjusting."


Paul Tenorio reports:

Here at the start of the afternoon practice, one of Zorn's quirky quarterback drills has made its first appearance. No, not the slip n' slide, this instead is similar to a drill in the Madden video game training camp mode.

A quarterback stands in the middle of a circle surrounded by the other QBs and Zorn, and must avoid the large, silver exercise balls thrown at him as if avoiding on-rushing would-be sackers. If it were Madden and I had to guess, I'd say rookie Bret Meyer got the highest score...but I can't be too sure.

JReid's earlier file on Jason Campbell:

A teacher first, Coach Jim Zorn has continued to tutor quarterback Jason Campbell while also installing his version of the West Coast offense in minicamp. Campbell is tall (he is listed at 6 feet 5), and Zorn wants Campbell to stay low as he takes the snap from center and drops back.
"He likes his quarterbacks to have a nice base and you do that by staying low," Campbell said. "It makes sense because you transfer to throw the ball and you're all at one level. You're not raising up or you're not getting lower. He wants you to stay at one level throughout your whole drop. And even stepping toward your throws, he wants you to stay at one level the whole time."
Quarterbacks tend to be inconsistent in their throwing motion when they fail to maintain a good base, Zorn said. "Everything has to be smooth," he said. "It's all about the technique."
Although he initially struggled in drills Zorn designed to help him maintain one level after taking snaps, Campbell said he has benefited from the work.
"At first it was hard to adjust to because you are so tall," Campbell said. "You want to stand up because you're 6-5; you can look over everything and throw it. But after you start doing it and doing it, after you keep working at staying low all the time, you see what he's saying. When you stay low the transfer of the ball is a lot quicker. The ball really comes out and you're more accurate.
"Sometimes you stand too tall and you can get a little off target. When you stand at one level it gives you a better chance of being more accurate. Repetition, repetition, repetition. That's what just installs it into your brain. After a while it just becomes automatic for you. When we first started doing it ... it felt awkward. Now that we've been doing it for a while it feels comfortable."
The knees are the keys, Zorn and Campbell said. "Just have a little bend in your knees when you come back from center, so you can step each way and react, and that makes a big difference," Campbell said. "Whereas if you were standing straight up and were straight-legged, now you've got to step down and react. If you already have a little bend in your knees you're already there.
"Sometimes, when I stand straight up and the ball goes a little high, Coach Zorn says, 'You know why that happened? Because you weren't at one level.' When I try it at one level, you see the difference. It made a lot of sense and it has helped. We'll wait 'til the games get here to make sure I can transfer it to the games, but it does make sense."

By Cindy Boren  |  May 3, 2008; 1:42 PM ET
 
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Comments

First!!

Posted by: jdogg | May 3, 2008 1:49 PM | Report abuse

First!

Posted by: ? | May 3, 2008 1:49 PM | Report abuse

First!

posted by ?

Sorry about that. I'm vacationing in FL, and on a borrowed computer. And when I posted that, it was my first opportunity to be first. But I really was second. Sorry, jdogg.

Posted by: fred | May 3, 2008 1:53 PM | Report abuse

Squat down and throw? What about being tall and not getting the ball swatted by opponents?

I get it. Have flexed knees, kinda the equivilent of the basketball "triple threat" position.

But at some time you have to stand tall and deliver the ball.

Posted by: Tony | May 3, 2008 1:56 PM | Report abuse

Poor Jason Campbell. Even if he thought this was a stupid idea, would he even have the option of resisting?

Posted by: Joe the Fan | May 3, 2008 1:56 PM | Report abuse

Again, awesome insightful commentary!

Stop spoiling us!!

Posted by: Thank you, Redskin Insider not Rosie O'Canfora | May 3, 2008 1:59 PM | Report abuse

just enjoy a-hole, jason id grieving a family loss, the loss of his kids grandmother....it's FB d-bag, not life....have some humanity and compassion...

Posted by: how bout not being a jag-off | May 3, 2008 2:01 PM | Report abuse

Tony - "But at some time you have to stand tall and deliver the ball."

Dude, you just don't get it.

Listen to Zorn and learn.

Posted by: Anonymous | May 3, 2008 2:01 PM | Report abuse

Does anyone else ever worry that Jason Campbell is too soft to be great? I feel like if he had a little more fire to go with his physical abilities he could be so much better. All of his interviews are so agreeable and he never shows any sort of emotion on the field.

Posted by: zach | May 3, 2008 2:12 PM | Report abuse

Hef, Wilbon's hero, has just arrived at the Derby with his three girlfriends.

Posted by: Cindy | May 3, 2008 2:13 PM | Report abuse

just enjoy a-hole, jason id grieving a family loss, the loss of his kids grandmother....it's FB d-bag, not life....have some humanity and compassion...

Posted by: how bout not being a jag-off | May 3, 2008 2:01 PM

Yea Enjoy, cuz when Rosie O'Canfora comeback this blog will suck again...and will only focus on Dan Snyder and Redskin negativity.

I wish the best for Rosie and his family which means he should be doing a job he loves like reporting on Hockey or something rather than showing up to work to spew venom.

This was an awesome and interesting piece from Redskins camp that we wouldn't have had if Rosie was reporting on it.

Posted by: Condolences to ROC and much praise for RI | May 3, 2008 2:13 PM | Report abuse

Oh man this kool-aid sure tastes good. This must be that belgian stuff: high octane and yummy. que viva minicamp!

Posted by: mnskinsfan | May 3, 2008 2:19 PM | Report abuse

I like Belgian things as well.

Posted by: Marvin Harrison | May 3, 2008 2:22 PM | Report abuse

jasno doesnt read this stuff so who cares what is written. it is just someones opinion and they are entitled to it. i love how people feel they have to be his personal protector.

Posted by: Anonymous | May 3, 2008 2:24 PM | Report abuse

It is refreshing seeing a reporter who reports what he sees. . . not the doom and gloom spin that he creates.

Way to go JReid!!

Supporters of Jasno say he reports what he sees.

I say bologna. He reports the story he creates in his head from very few facts.

Posted by: Anonymous | May 3, 2008 2:26 PM | Report abuse

I think "awesome" is an exaggeration when describing this piece, but at least it didn't end with "No doubt Zorn's a great teacher, but is he cut out to be a head coach?" We all know that issue and others exist, but we don't need to be constantly reminded of it.

Posted by: Anonymous | May 3, 2008 2:26 PM | Report abuse

I'll be throwing grenades at Jasno tomorrow if anyone wants to be there to jump on them.

Posted by: amcginl00 | May 3, 2008 2:28 PM | Report abuse

Compared to the slop we've had to read here recently, "awesome" is an UNDERSTATEMENT.

Posted by: Anonymous | May 3, 2008 2:31 PM | Report abuse

Captain Anon, I read this piece as its written and immediately thought wow Zorn would have been a great hire at QB coach or O Cord. I have serious doubts about his ability to be head coach, and also worry we aren't going to have a Spurrier situation where HC cares only about certain aspects of the O and not the team as a whole...

I think we are going to suffer through some rookie headcoach headaches...which should be expected..

Hey I root for Zorn obviously, but I am going to need to be convinced on the feild, not once again "thinking positive" like some middle school girl waiting for the announcement of who made the Drill Team....

Posted by: chris larrY | May 3, 2008 2:33 PM | Report abuse

Simple, Informative, and Unbiased

That to me is "Super, Terrific, Happy Hour Awesome!"

Posted by: Jerry Seinfeld | May 3, 2008 2:33 PM | Report abuse

We're only two days into minicamp; let's just chronicle and observe the dynamic 'tween JZ and JC, then make up our minds. Is it problematic that he's telling him to bend his knees? No one knows the answer yet.

Posted by: Cindy | May 3, 2008 2:33 PM | Report abuse

Zorn's drills for Campbell remind me of the old joke about the kid who is at the Ballet for the first time and upon observing the ballerinas en pointe (on their toes) asks "Why don't they just get taller girls?"

I'm sure an expert like Zorn knows the tradeoff for accuracy vs the occasional blocked pass is worth it, but it strikes me as funny how the NFL has their measurables and the Smart Guys throw them out.

The skins have a QB who's too tall and an MLB who's too short and they are both just fine, thank you.

Posted by: corkczar | May 3, 2008 2:34 PM | Report abuse

Chris LarRy may well be right. That thought crossed my mind, too. But on May 3, no one can say Zorn won't be the next Holmgren.

Posted by: Cindy | May 3, 2008 2:36 PM | Report abuse

We have to wait till May 5.
:)
Combine it with a Cinco de Mayo bash.

Posted by: Cindy | May 3, 2008 2:38 PM | Report abuse

Cindy...I hope I am wrong...my gut tells me this dude is over his head, my heart aches for him to be the next Bill Walsh...

I guess our points are the same...time and results will tell the story!

Posted by: chris larrY | May 3, 2008 2:38 PM | Report abuse

That was a great piece! Who do I need to contact to ensure this blog continues with interesting and dynamic stories that really shines light on the process behind the product on the field?

Great read, I hope Rosie transfers to Capitals Insider. I prefer to read a blog by someone who shares the obsession I have with the Skins. I'll be okay if the writer was subjective, but the negativity over the past year has been horrific.

Posted by: awolfinwater | May 3, 2008 2:39 PM | Report abuse

chris larry you are such a moron.

Go mount a donkey.

Heaven forbid someone actually "think positive"!

Posted by: Elizabeth Hassleback | May 3, 2008 2:39 PM | Report abuse

There are integral points in not comparing Zorn to Spurrier. Zorn has coached on the professional level and has been for several years. Professional athletes are way different than college players. He didn't come in and say he wanted nothing to do with the defnese leaving it all to the DC either. Quote fromm Zorn below:

After practice, Jim Zorn was asked to comment on the defense.

"The front seven--they're giving a great effort," Zorn said. Linebackers are scraping, filling holes and pursuing very well. The safeties and corners are doing a good job disguising their looks. I think that's helping.

"The main thing to watch is the emphasis of pursuit and swarming to the ball wherever it's going. It was great to see."

The Redskins hold their second practice of the day--and fourth of the mini-camp--later this afternoon.

Posted by: one of the captain anons | May 3, 2008 2:42 PM | Report abuse

Honestly, my gut tells me the same thing, but my gut has sjk for brains. (I think I stole a variation of that line from Nick Hornby's "High Fidelity.") At the moment, I'm shushing it.

Posted by: Cindy | May 3, 2008 2:44 PM | Report abuse

In chris larry's defense, what he said is perfectly legitimate...I prefer it when he and other informed posters are raising these questions, however, instead of having the worst case scenario constantly shoved down our throats by the blogger.

As a Skins fan, I hope Zorn is the man, but there are question marks. Most of us are intelligent enough to realize that on our own, though.

Posted by: amcginl00 | May 3, 2008 2:44 PM | Report abuse

sorry guess i offended the positivity police...i will get back to slurping equestrine half-breeds.....

Posted by: chris larrY | May 3, 2008 2:46 PM | Report abuse

++++It is refreshing seeing a reporter who reports what he sees. . . not the doom and gloom spin that he creates.

Way to go JReid!!

Supporters of Jasno say he reports what he sees.

I say bologna. He reports the story he creates in his head from very few facts.

Posted by: | May 3, 2008 2:26 PM++++


You are a moron. You have NO IDEA what it is like covering the Redskins, yet pose as an anonymous expert. You pretend to be fair and balanced, but you just make your opinions up out of whole cloth. How do I know? If you actually WERE a reporter you'd sign your name.

So what you are putting down here is your own opinion. Fine. That's what Blogs are for. And of course the genius of utter anonymity is one is never sure how many cowardly one-note-Samba posters are playing the same old tune over and over again. Jasno sucks.. Anyone else is great. Yeah, and we're so dumb we can't figure out the motivation of these posts. I can smell the offended front office stink on them all the way out in CA.

You want PR releases, go over to Redskins.Com, that is if you don't already work for them. It's a great service. As long as people know it's not a journalistic enterprise but a PR tool of the Redskins and Snyder.

And anyone with any common sense knows that jason, reid, Boswell, and the rest are flawed humans who sometimes get it right, and sometimes don't. It's NEVER the simplistic black and white picture you claim, which is why you're a moron. I take that back. you're not a moron. You're deluded. Or ignorant. MUCH better.

Posted by: Corkczar | May 3, 2008 2:47 PM | Report abuse

well said corky! prepare for the blowback!

Posted by: chris larrY | May 3, 2008 2:50 PM | Report abuse

"Sometimes, when I stand straight up and the ball goes a little high, Coach Zorn says, 'You know why that happened? Because you weren't at one level.' When I try it at one level, you see the difference. It made a lot of sense and it has helped. We'll wait 'til the games get here to make sure I can transfer it to the games, but it does make sense."

Considering the number of balls that sailed high on him last year and his off target deep balls....and stuff like that there.

This sounds like good reason to "think positive" about our QB and Head Coach.

"Oh my darlin', Oh my Darlin'..."

Posted by: Huckleberry Hound | May 3, 2008 2:51 PM | Report abuse

cyndy: high fidelity...great book! i was working in record stores when that came out, and it was frighteningly accurate!

Posted by: chris larrY | May 3, 2008 2:51 PM | Report abuse

Outstanding, Corky. High Fidelity is a terrific book; the movie is almost as good.

Posted by: Cindy | May 3, 2008 2:54 PM | Report abuse

Most of us are intelligent enough to realize that on our own, though.

Posted by: amcginl00 | May 3, 2008 2:44 PM

Apparently not the anonymous posters who need a "positive" spin on every post, regardless of what's being reported. If you're intelligent enough to see the possible shortcomings of the skins' future outlook, then you're also intelligent enough to see the positives in JLC's skeptical posts.

Posted by: psps23 | May 3, 2008 2:54 PM | Report abuse

This was a good article/post because it had no spin!

No one is asking for positive spin!

We are all just tired of the negative spin Rosie O'Canfora puts on everything Redskins.

Posted by: Spin This! | May 3, 2008 2:58 PM | Report abuse

Corkczar = Rosie O'Canfora = JLC

Posted by: Anonymous | May 3, 2008 2:59 PM | Report abuse

funny is funny, i love funny...the nickname "rosie O'canfora" simply isn't funny.....

Posted by: chris larrY | May 3, 2008 3:02 PM | Report abuse

I don't know, Rosie O'Canfora is pretty fargin hilarious if you ask me!

Posted by: Go Skins! | May 3, 2008 3:04 PM | Report abuse

I think "look past the negatives" might be a better way to put it...and I agree. That's what I do. I do realize that, in spite of the fact that I think Jason's negativity is obvious and overdone, this blog is a great source of info and interesting banter.
I thought that the writing here during the Sean Taylor tragedy last season was stellar. It was inspired. The only inspiration he seems to have lately, however, is the axe he's grinding. It is the underlying theme of most every update he makes and this turns many people off. Many would just prefer more of a balance of between the good and the bad. Those who feel this way should be free to express that, just like you're free to defend Jason. I doubt he really needs anyone's protection though.

Posted by: amcginl00 | May 3, 2008 3:07 PM | Report abuse

guess i am to drunk on donkey juice to get it...

Posted by: chris larrY | May 3, 2008 3:07 PM | Report abuse

When I read about the Redskins, IN A BLOG, I am looking for an opinion to balance my kool aid drinking, rose colored glasses, glass half full optimisim.

I don't need someone IN A BLOG to tell me what I already feverently wish to be true.

I also don't need someone, IN A BLOG, to give me the facts and figures about the mini-camp. That's what the stories in the part of the web-site directly BEFORE I click on Redskins insider.

I prefer a darker side, so I can evaluate my POV with someone who may not see things the same way.

That being said, if you are looking for someone who is a cheerleader for the 'Skins, I believe they have their own web-site. May not have a blog, though - don't know.

Posted by: John D in Houston | May 3, 2008 3:08 PM | Report abuse

i predict a John D unfunny character smack down in t-minus 3-2-1....

Posted by: chris larrY | May 3, 2008 3:10 PM | Report abuse

I am a Jasno Basher but I still read the blog. I believe a lot has to do with the fact that before the internet, I grew up reading the Washington Post and continue to have a mancrush on Kornheiser and Wilbon. My childhood memories of reading articles always brings me back to the Post. As for Jasno, I never felt that he was an 'insider'. I would find minute breaking news elsewhere and I never felt that Jasno was able to build relationships with the staff or players of the redskins. This leads to very little insightful information that could be found elsewhere on the internet.

That is why I bash and root for another reporter. The Washington Post is one of the finest papers in the country and I expect the best and most informative articles, especially from a section proclaimed as the 'Redskins Insider'. I know a lot of this has to do with the shut door policy of Snyder and coaches but I never get a glimpse of the personality of the players or team leaders from this blog. The piece today on JC and JZ coaching was fantastic. I do see JC as a standup thrower and it will be interesting to see if this coaching tool will translate onto the field. I think we all agree that JC overthrew and was inaccurate with a lot of balls last year.

The article also sparks interesting discussion on whether JZ is spending too much time on the QB and less time as an all around supervisor. From what I have read from different sources about JZ's comments on the first day of practice, I feel JZ is making a mark in all aspects of the game including special teams. I think he is on track and I currently have full faith that he will succeed.

Back to bashing. I want someone who can develop relationships and bring some substance to the blog that I can't grab anywhere else. JR achieved that today with his post and I hope that he continues running the blog for the rest of the season.

Posted by: awolfinwater | May 3, 2008 3:12 PM | Report abuse

flexed knees = most athletic position

It's the same in most sports.

Posted by: Anonymous | May 3, 2008 3:12 PM | Report abuse

Just like in politics, the majority of us are toward the middle of the spectrum, so telling people to go to redskins.com and other sites like it, where everything is slanted to the opposite extreme, is not an alternative that most are looking for. But thanks for your concern. If you like the Dark Side, you should also check our Star Wars.

Posted by: amcginl00 | May 3, 2008 3:14 PM | Report abuse

this blog is leaps and bounds better without jlc

Posted by: jonthefisherman | May 3, 2008 3:16 PM | Report abuse

Yeah, Wilbon and Hef even look to be about the same age these days. Just send Wilbon out to cover sports events in a robe and slippers, and Mikey can be a babe-magnet too.

Posted by: Bob Guccione | May 3, 2008 3:17 PM | Report abuse

this blog is leaps and bounds better without jlc

Posted by: jonthefisherman | May 3, 2008 3:16 PM

...and it's showed from the moment he left.

Posted by: Pay Attention Washington Post | May 3, 2008 3:18 PM | Report abuse

I like waffles.

Posted by: Marvin Harrison | May 3, 2008 3:19 PM | Report abuse

F U Bob Guccione

Posted by: Axel Rose | May 3, 2008 3:20 PM | Report abuse

I like waffles.

Posted by: Marvin Harrison | May 3, 2008 3:19 PM


.50 caliber Belgian Waffles!

Posted by: Car Wash Employee | May 3, 2008 3:21 PM | Report abuse

Man, Bob Guccione and Axel rose never get along!


ROFL

Posted by: Inquiring Mind don't know Jack | May 3, 2008 3:23 PM | Report abuse

chris larrY knows funny like Rosie O'Canfora knows football!

Posted by: Joe Gibbs | May 3, 2008 3:25 PM | Report abuse

Jason LaToucanfora?

Now THAT'S funny!

Posted by: Froot Loop | May 3, 2008 3:28 PM | Report abuse

Jason LaToucanfora?

Now THAT'S funny!

Posted by: Froot Loop | May 3, 2008 3:28 PM


Your the guy from "Good Morning, Vietnam" that played polka music and thought HE was funny, aren't you.

that or chris larrY

Posted by: Anonymous | May 3, 2008 3:32 PM | Report abuse

you got me Capt. Anon.....burn...

Posted by: chris larrY | May 3, 2008 3:34 PM | Report abuse

Rosie O'Donnell was a star offensive guard in a previous lifetime. She's trying out for 3-4 nose tackle this time around.

Posted by: Anonymous | May 3, 2008 3:35 PM | Report abuse

chris larry, corky, and the others who act like they own this blog are boring and pathetic.

JLC is lame; Rosie O'Canfora is funny.

Zorn will be a great coach.

The complaining about anonymous posts is idiotic. As far as I can tell, everyone who posts here is anon. What's the difference whether you attach a stupid nickname to your post or not?

Posted by: Anonymous | May 3, 2008 3:55 PM | Report abuse

I realize the reason JLC is gone is because of a death. I am sorry to hear that and wish JLC nothing but happiness.

But, as an observer of this blog for a long while (I post anon so douchebags like chris larry can't refer to me) I have to say that he is just terrible.

JReid and Paul are much better.

They don't look for any reason to bash the team.

When the team screws up, a good reporter calls them on it.

Bad reporters, like JLC, put their own spin on EVERY situation, good or bad, with questionable use of "facts"

Posted by: Anonymous | May 3, 2008 4:08 PM | Report abuse

amen

Posted by: Anonymous | May 3, 2008 4:09 PM | Report abuse

Chris Larry is funny (in a sad pathetic way)

Posted by: Anonymous | May 3, 2008 4:10 PM | Report abuse

Jason LaCantreporta

Posted by: isnadd | May 3, 2008 4:11 PM | Report abuse

I find it funny that Chris Larry constantly ridicules people for posting anon. . . even though he is the main reason that most people post anon - as not to have him completely rip them apart for having the NERVE!! to question JLC.

Posted by: Anonymous | May 3, 2008 4:12 PM | Report abuse

The complaining about anonymous posts is idiotic. As far as I can tell, everyone who posts here is anon. What's the difference whether you attach a stupid nickname to your post or not?

Posted by: | May 3, 2008 3:55 PM

Since you are too stupid to figure it out on your own, we won't waste our time trying to explain it to you. But thanks for playing!

Posted by: Barney Rubble | May 3, 2008 4:15 PM | Report abuse


Jason LaCantreporta

Posted by: isnadd | May 3, 2008 4:11 PM


Nice One! See that's funny too!

Thumbs way up for: Jason Cantreporta and Rosie O'Canfora

Thumbs way down for: Jason LaToucanfora

Posted by: Anonymous | May 3, 2008 4:15 PM | Report abuse

You guys are all lame!

Posted by: call it like I see it | May 3, 2008 4:16 PM | Report abuse

Put simply, Rosie O'Canfora is like trying to eat bread with cotton-mouth.


Jason Reid's post today was a clean refreshing glass of ice water with a slice of lemon.

All I can say is......AHHHHHHHHHHH!

Posted by: Go Skins! | May 3, 2008 4:21 PM | Report abuse

Captain Anon, I read this piece as its written and immediately thought wow Zorn would have been a great hire at QB coach or O Cord. I have serious doubts about his ability to be head coach, and also worry we aren't going to have a Spurrier situation where HC cares only about certain aspects of the O and not the team as a whole...

I think we are going to suffer through some rookie headcoach headaches...which should be expected..

Hey I root for Zorn obviously, but I am going to need to be convinced on the feild, not once again "thinking positive" like some middle school girl waiting for the announcement of who made the Drill Team....

Posted by: chris larrY | May 3, 2008 2:33 PM


Earlier today Zorn ripped into Shawn Springs for lateralling an interception. I think that shows he cares about more than just offense. I have really good vibes about Zorn. I hope he will succeed.

Posted by: Redskins Jim | May 3, 2008 4:24 PM | Report abuse

Getting this back to football...
Who's heard of Matt Hasslebeck?
Me too.
First time I saw him was in pre-season game at Greenbay when he threw a touchdown and then went to jump on the guys to celebrate. They moved. He flopped on the ground like a fool.

A year or two later Seatle traded for him and Zorn coached him.

Now a lot has to go right but it is possible this may know what he is doing. I think a few more than four practices may be needed to determine whether he is in over his head or going to be OK.

Joe Gibbs picked Andre Jonhson and Chris Cooley. Football has a way of making you look super smart and super stupid. Overall the guys from Holgren's tree seem to be pretty good.

Posted by: ssh1549 | May 3, 2008 4:27 PM | Report abuse

Nice post. I want to get more info on our TE and OL gut we drafted. Not much on TV and no new stories from the Post. Now that the Wizzz puck lame A&* are out they can put reporters on the skins.

All I hear about is our two WR.

Also a better description of Zorns WC would be nice now that there is a playbook.

Posted by: info | May 3, 2008 4:38 PM | Report abuse

Hmm, blog repeatedly points out multi-year flawed strategy by front office of forgoing draft for free agent signings... front office finally tries new strategy of building through draft... coincidence?

maybe you guys should settle down a little.

Posted by: let jason speak | May 3, 2008 4:41 PM | Report abuse

WoW I am feeling the love today, keep it coming friends I can take.

And for the record, I am not "anon" Chris Larry is my name shortened a bit for flair (Larry is commonly used as a nick name for "Lawrence")

But ssh1459 I like your thinking. Hasselback has been one of the most consistant QBs in the league. If we can get close to that from QB position the Zorn Era will be looking strong.

Posted by: chris larrY | May 3, 2008 4:41 PM | Report abuse

I'm a man baaaaby.

Posted by: Rosie O'Donnell | May 3, 2008 4:46 PM | Report abuse

For what it's worth, I love chris larrY.

And I get good vibes from Zorn-- I'm feeling this as the start of a beautiful thing!

Or so I hope.

Meh.

Posted by: TDawg | May 3, 2008 4:46 PM | Report abuse

I have serious doubts about his ability to be head coach, and also worry we aren't going to have a Spurrier situation where HC cares only about certain aspects of the O and not the team as a whole...

Posted by: chris larrY | May 3, 2008 2:33 PM

Chris Larry: Often wrong, never in doubt.

Posted by: Anonymous | May 3, 2008 4:47 PM | Report abuse

If I am a woman I must have been beaten with an ugly stick.

Posted by: Rosie O'Donnell | May 3, 2008 4:48 PM | Report abuse

The truth according to "Sic"...

1) I want to hear the good and not so good. If the rookies aren't adjusting well or they are making plays, I want to hear about it.

2) Jason does a good job most jobs, but there is a usual a negative slant on his blogging. It's obvious that the FO takes a beating from Jason, some deserved, some not deserved. For example: JLac bolgged on draft day when the Redskins didn't draft a DE by round 3, he blogged..."this is getting ridiculous".. Remarks like that are not necessary. That's a comment, in my opinion that should be expressed by bloggers.

3) No one knows if these guys can play, whether Zorn can coach, or how things will work out, but we are going into a season generally healthy and without controversy.

4) Zorn seems to be the opposite of Gibbs. Gibbs didn't share enough, Zorn may share too much which leads to specualation. Gibbs would never share that Campbell needs to bend his needs more. But I like that about Zorn.

I just want them to win and look good doin' it....

...and this has been the truth according to SICWIDIT..

Posted by: sicwidit | May 3, 2008 4:57 PM | Report abuse

Also a better description of Zorns WC would be nice now that there is a playbook.

Posted by: info | May 3, 2008 4:38 PM

Well, let's see: it's 9" x 12". It has this really nice maroon cover with some yellow and black trim. There's an image of the Super Bowl Trophy etched on the front. Inside, it has many white pages with black print for text and multiple colors of ink used for diagramming formations and plays. It looks like most NFL playbooks on the inside, but it's a little thinner. (The whole thing is only about the size of the index of Al Saunders' playbook, so that's a good thing.) Most of the diagrammed rushing plays are similar to what you are used to, such as "Portis runs right" and "Portis runs left" and "Sellers runs up the middle". The pass offense section is really neat, though, with all kinds of squiggly lines and routes that cross and the defensive backfield flooded with receivers. My favorite on paper is the XXX play, where the X and Z receivers cross deep, the tight ends run shallow outs, and the QB hands off to the RB on an off-guard draw. I can see Roy Williams sitting on the ground crying after that play goes for big yardage.

That's about all I can tell you, ummm, because the playbook and Zorno's WCO are secret. Why would we want to tell everyone in the league what we are running in advance? That would be dumb, like trying to call two timeouts consecutively or something.

Posted by: Joe the Equipment Guy | May 3, 2008 5:00 PM | Report abuse

I have serious doubts about his ability to be head coach, and also worry we aren't going to have a Spurrier situation where HC cares only about certain aspects of the O and not the team as a whole...

Posted by: chris larrY | May 3, 2008 2:33 PM


More chris larrY BS assumptions. For what its worth the Defense was ranked #4 in the NFL in Spurrier's first season.

The offense needed all the attention it could get back then, our OL and pass protection was a disaster.

Posted by: anon# 47562 | May 3, 2008 5:06 PM | Report abuse

Yo...I think it was on the previous post, but the nick name, "Hawaii 5-0" for Colt Brennan is freakin' hilarious!!!

That's it right there.

Posted by: sicwidit | May 3, 2008 5:16 PM | Report abuse

In Spurrier's first year, the defense was ranked 21st in points allowed (22.8) and 5th in yards allowed (299.2).

In Spurrier's second year, the defense was ranked 24th in points allowed (23.3) and 25th in yards allowed (338.3).

Posted by: Stats Guy | May 3, 2008 5:22 PM | Report abuse

Keep'em coming!

Posted by: CHRIS larry | May 3, 2008 5:23 PM | Report abuse

In Spurrier's first year, the defense was ranked 21st in points allowed (22.8) and 5th in yards allowed (299.2).

No actually they were ranked 4th in yards allowed as previously stated.

and the 21st rank in points allowed is misleading consdiering how many points the OFFENSE and SPECIAL TEAMS gave up that year.

Posted by: Stupid Stats Guy(chris lawrence) | May 3, 2008 5:27 PM | Report abuse

Colt Brennan is from the University of Hawai'i, of course. His jersey number is #5. The "0" is for passes completed in the NFL. (Most player numbers have secret meanings.)

Posted by: Joe the Equipment Guy | May 3, 2008 5:30 PM | Report abuse

Nope...I wasn't stats guy...

Posted by: chris larrY | May 3, 2008 5:30 PM | Report abuse

I knew Stats guy smelled of Donkey and Cabbage!

It was "I hate Anon-posters" chris larry mclawrence posting Anon.

what irony!

Posted by: Anon#8675309 | May 3, 2008 5:32 PM | Report abuse

nope...no irony, i wasnt stats guy....sorry....donkey & cabbage...what the cabbage for is that like a lube I haven't tried yet??

Posted by: chris larrY | May 3, 2008 5:33 PM | Report abuse

"No actually they were ranked 4th in yards allowed as previously stated.

and the 21st rank in points allowed is misleading consdiering how many points the OFFENSE and SPECIAL TEAMS gave up that year."

Actually, you are wrong, and then wrong some more, but no surprise there. Maybe when you pull your head out of your a$$ and stop getting your stats from there, you'll do better. Oh, and take some typing lessons.

Posted by: Anonymous | May 3, 2008 5:34 PM | Report abuse

Is chris larry ever not here....its Saturday dude!

Go out and play!

Posted by: Shel Silverstein | May 3, 2008 5:34 PM | Report abuse

Sorry - forgot my name on the 5:34 post.

Posted by: Stats Guy | May 3, 2008 5:35 PM | Report abuse

Actually, you are wrong, and then wrong some more, but no surprise there. Maybe when you pull your head out of your a$$ and stop getting your stats from there, you'll do better. Oh, and take some typing lessons.

Posted by: | May 3, 2008 5:34 PM

typing police strike again. (Sign of the truly uninformed and desperate)

Skins rank 4th in yards allowed in 2002-2003. Look it Up!

...and yes I think the Offense and Special Teams gave up more points than the Defense did that year.

..and you forgot to end with Nanny nanny boo boo stick your head in doo doo.

Posted by: Your Mother | May 3, 2008 5:41 PM | Report abuse

And no, I am not ChRiS LaRrY - ChRisSie can defend himself if he wants to. Rather, I am simply untwisting the neat little package you tried to construct. Don't be bringing that weak shti around here or you'll get called on it.

Now where's that afternoon review, followed by Hornitos with Zornitos.

Posted by: Stats Guy | May 3, 2008 5:43 PM | Report abuse

2002 Defense - Yards Allowed

Tampa Bay - 252.8
Carolina - 290.4
Miami - 291.0
Philadelphia - 297.1
Washington - 299.2

Posted by: Anonymous | May 3, 2008 5:49 PM | Report abuse

The complaining about anonymous posts is idiotic. As far as I can tell, everyone who posts here is anon. What's the difference whether you attach a stupid nickname to your post or not?

Posted by: | May 3, 2008 3:55 PM

Since you are too stupid to figure it out on your own, we won't waste our time trying to explain it to you. But thanks for playing!

Posted by: Barney Rubble | May 3, 2008 4:15 PM

Hey BR:
Great response! You really told him. Except that posting as Barry Rubble basically proved his point. You box of rocks.

Posted by: Anonymous | May 3, 2008 5:51 PM | Report abuse

Hey BR:
Great response! You really told him. Except that posting as Barry Rubble basically proved his point. You box of rocks.

Posted by: | May 3, 2008 5:51 PM

Wow, we have yet another brain surgeon visiting with us today. Congratulations on your astute mastery and understanding of nothing (as opposed to nothingness, which there is little chance you know anything about also).

Posted by: Box of Rocks #1 | May 3, 2008 5:56 PM | Report abuse

Cabbage Patches smell awful!

It smells like someone is trying to grow dead animal!

Posted by: Anonymous | May 3, 2008 6:09 PM | Report abuse

Rosie O'Canfora(JLC) and Donkeys & Cabbage(chris larrY)are two of the funniest thing I have heard all day!!

Posted by: Anonymous | May 3, 2008 6:13 PM | Report abuse

Don't be bringing that weak shti around here or you'll get called on it.

Now where's that afternoon review, followed by Hornitos with Zornitos.

Posted by: Stats Guy | May 3, 2008 5:43 PM

The afternoon review is at the top of the page you fargin genius. ROFLMAO

Oh and the typing police might want to take some lesson himself. Cuz you cant spell sh!t

Hilarious when people call people out for typing and then mistype.

Posted by: Typing Police Internal Affairs | May 3, 2008 6:24 PM | Report abuse

Someone tell me why Horse Racing is legal again and Dog fighting?

Posted by: 4th via Home Floor | May 3, 2008 6:26 PM | Report abuse

does it suprise anybody that zorn had to let the receiving corp know that the guy watching from the sideline was in the hall of fame and his name is steve largent

Posted by: Anonymous | May 3, 2008 6:33 PM | Report abuse

Someone tell me why Horse Racing is legal again and Dog fighting?

Posted by: 4th via Home Floor | May 3, 2008 6:26 PM

Horse racing is not "legal again" -- it's always been legal. And can't you tell the difference between a sport where the purpose is to kill the animal and one where it's to put the animal to stud?

Posted by: Anonymous | May 3, 2008 6:41 PM | Report abuse

Wow, we have yet another brain surgeon visiting with us today. Congratulations on your astute mastery and understanding of nothing (as opposed to nothingness, which there is little chance you know anything about also).

Posted by: Box of Rocks #1 | May 3, 2008 5:56 PM

You must be an Obama supporter. Your POV is: "I'm so right that I won't even argue... " Well, sh$t for brains, none of you pathetic full-time blogging nobodies has yet to attempt to argue why anon posts are any different than posts with your stupid little nicknames attached.

Posted by: Anonymous | May 3, 2008 6:43 PM | Report abuse

The funny thing today is that all this bashing of JLC about how negative he is makes this comments section as negative as JLC. Great post today and yet all I am reading is how bad JLC is. Most of you glass half empty bloggers should think about what you want to say/write, then hit enter instead of saying it so many different times. Even with JLC's negative posts, this blog was fun in the comment section. Today the comments section has been more negative than anything JLC post.

Posted by: Not a JLC Fan | May 3, 2008 6:47 PM | Report abuse

Someone tell me why Horse Racing is legal again and Dog fighting?

Posted by: 4th via Home Floor | May 3, 2008 6:26 PM

You must be a Hilary supporter and your POV is that "I'm so stupid that I hope no one can figure out who I am."

Posted by: Anonymous | May 3, 2008 6:47 PM | Report abuse

You must be an Obama supporter. Your POV is: "I'm so right that I won't even argue... " Well, sh$t for brains, none of you pathetic full-time blogging nobodies has yet to attempt to argue why anon posts are any different than posts with your stupid little nicknames attached.

Posted by: | May 3, 2008 6:43 PM

When CL, Corkzar, Nate at the PDX or other bloggers that always sign their "handle", it is always know who is signing. When there is no Name or dumb Names like the one on this post, it is never known who is blogging. Don't put your "name" on a blog, but be consistant and put your "handle" so that everyone knows that all of the post you post is attributed to you. Don't be afraid to be called out by going anon. Own up to what you are saying all of the time with the same "handle" everytime you post.

Posted by: Be Consistant Signing Your Name | May 3, 2008 6:53 PM | Report abuse

The funny thing today is that all this bashing of JLC about how negative he is makes this comments section as negative as JLC.

Posted by: Not a JLC Fan | May 3, 2008 6:47 PM

Well, yeah, but JLC started it. Not today, but he started it.

Posted by: Anonymous | May 3, 2008 6:53 PM | Report abuse

this blog has turned into a complete joke

Posted by: Leevi | May 3, 2008 6:55 PM | Report abuse

You must be a Hilary supporter and your POV is that "I'm so stupid that I hope no one can figure out who I am."

Posted by: | May 3, 2008 6:47 PM

This a blog. What is a low blow suppose to do to me?

Posted by: 4th | May 3, 2008 6:57 PM | Report abuse

Someone tell me why Horse Racing is legal again and Dog fighting?

Posted by: 4th via Home Floor | May 3, 2008 6:26 PM

Ummmmm well....one you win by having one animal die...the other you win when the animal safely crsses the finish line first and goes home and eats dinner...

You figure it out!

Posted by: Leevi | May 3, 2008 6:57 PM | Report abuse

Put simply, Rosie O'Canfora is like trying to eat bread with cotton-mouth.


Jason Reid's post today was a clean refreshing glass of ice water with a slice of lemon.

All I can say is......AHHHHHHHHHHH!

Posted by: Go Skins! | May 3, 2008 4:21 PM

This kind of summed up how the bloggers were feeling today.

Everyone's dieing of thirst and Rosie O'Canfora(sorry couldn't help myself) has been feeding nothing but dry stale bitter bread for close to a year now.

Posted by: Donkeys & Cabbage ftw | May 3, 2008 7:00 PM | Report abuse

this blog has turned into a complete joke

Posted by: Leevi | May 3, 2008 6:55 PM

Finally! Blog nirvanna!

Posted by: Anonymous | May 3, 2008 7:01 PM | Report abuse

You don't win by one animal dying. But, if the animal is badly injured, you have to the animal to sleep.

The only difference is one is on TV....

Posted by: 4th | May 3, 2008 7:13 PM | Report abuse

beep beep

Posted by: Cindy | May 3, 2008 7:13 PM | Report abuse

Dick is short for Richard. lower your plane to duck. raise your plane to throw over. Zorn is a lefty, so expect some quirkiness. 10-6, all the pieces are in place. Will we see Mike Irvin every year all glassy eyed at the HOF inductions?

Posted by: devans | May 3, 2008 7:16 PM | Report abuse

beepity beep beep beep, y'all.

Posted by: Anonymous | May 3, 2008 7:32 PM | Report abuse

Dude, Chris Larry stole my thunder.

F Chris Larry!

Posted by: Chia Pet | May 4, 2008 5:52 AM | Report abuse

WTF?

Why him?

Posted by: Chia Pet | May 4, 2008 5:54 AM | Report abuse

I forgot to mention curzon.

I *heart* him too.

Posted by: Chia Pet | May 4, 2008 6:00 AM

You got Curzon on the wrong team buddy....

Posted by: 4th | May 4, 2008 7:53 AM | Report abuse

Redskins Minicamp: Day 2
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John Keim
WarpathInsiders.com May 3, 2008

John Keim reports on his observations from the Redskins' second day of mini camp under Jim Zorn.

...Jim Zorn broke out the dodge ball game, using large Pilates balls to throw at his quarterbacks. One would stand in the middle with a football as if in the pocket. The other quarterbacks, and Zorn, would stand in a circle and alternate throwing a ball at him.

Zorn's first toss of the ball hit Jason Campbell.

"The idea is to get out of the way," he said to Campbell.

The best one in the group? Campbell. When the balls flew at him, he dodged them well and kept his eyes and head up. Others weren't as good; Sam Hollenbach ducked almost every time. Todd Collins was OK.

...Receiver Billy McMullen has looked pretty good at times; does a nice job driving off defenders.

...Gotta love Joe Bugel. At one point he yelled at rookie Devin Clark to, "Get your ass of the ground and run!"

...Corner Eddie Jackson had a nice pick of a Collins floater in zone coverage.

... Kedric Golston was carted off the field and has an ankle sprain. He won't practice tomorrow and there's no word yet when he'll return. The OTAs start Monday.

...Steve Largent, Zorn's best friend, attended practice this afternoon. At one point, Zorn told the receivers, "See that guy over there in the green shirt and khaki shorts? He's in the Hall of Fame." He said the wideouts couldn't believe it.

...Receiver Devin Thomas missed practice for personal reasons.

...Lorenzo Alexander has worked exclusively with the defense thus far.

...Rookie Malcolm Kelly made a leaping catch near the sideline, prompting Zorn to yell out, "Nice job!" and walk over for a hand slap. Santana Moss yelled out to Kelly, "Thataway MK!"

...Rock Cartwright did not like hearing Justin Tryon's comments after the draft that he guarantees he could get the ball to the 50 every time on a kick return. Danny Smith laughed at it, telling reporters every team hopes he's back there. In other words, pipe down, rook.

...Tryon is shorter than 5-foot-9, perhaps by an inch. Yours truly is a shade over 5-foot-9 - we'd like to think 5-10 - but Tryon does not see eye to eye with us.

...Zorn is very big on tempo, constantly yelling out to "get it going" to the offense.

...Rookie Rob Jackson has a little burst off the edge. You'll see it when he goes against young linemen, but vets won't have a problem with him early on because he does not seem all that strong or diverse in his moves. That's why he was a low-round pick.

...LaRon Landry would have decked Santana Moss on one pass, but had to pull up. He let Moss know what would have happened.


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