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K. Washington in Mix

Wide receiver Kelley Washington, formerly of the New England Patriots, is scheduled to participate in next weekend's minicamp, a league source said. Kelley, from Stephens City, Va., is a six-year veteran. He had his best season with the Cincinnati Bengals in 2004, establishing personal bests with 31 receptions for 378 yards.

By Jason Reid  |  April 23, 2009; 2:57 PM ET
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First to say were doomed! Welcome to DC Mark!

Posted by: EinVB | April 23, 2009 3:00 PM | Report abuse

Another sweet deal orchestrated by our Brilliant Front Office!!

Posted by: gatorskinz2000 | April 23, 2009 3:02 PM | Report abuse

First to say were doomed! Welcome to DC Mark!

Posted by: EinVB

It not going to happen E. Take a deep breath my friend. Think about it about it. When we picked up AH how many days before it happen did people know? When we picked Sean Taylor how many days was there talk about us taking him before it went down? This thing is not going down and I for one will be the first to tell all of you "I told you so" lol

JM220

Posted by: icetotalpackage | April 23, 2009 3:05 PM | Report abuse

4th!!

Posted by: jiza32 | April 23, 2009 3:10 PM | Report abuse

Kelley Washington will be just a practice player.

Too bad.

I remember he was very good at UT while in the SEC (in fact, wasn't P Manning the guy throwing him the rock, back in the day?).

He's another example of how translating college ablility into the pro game is so hard.

And if the team was so game to add a wideout, why didn't it chase T Holt before the jags did?

Holt's numbers from a sorry Rams team last year were better than ARE's on ours.

Posted by: MistaMoe | April 23, 2009 3:11 PM | Report abuse

Where is 4th to reassure me about his anti sanchez sources??

Posted by: AdamCr | April 23, 2009 3:12 PM | Report abuse

Wow...now that idiot Cowherd is reporting that Sal Paolantonio (who I know and who has credibility) says a 3 way trade could go down involving the Skins trading with Seattle for #4 and then trading Jason Campbell to the Jets or some other team to recoup picks.

Heaven help us!!!

Posted by: Lisa_R | April 23, 2009 10:47 AM


Here's the thing. This is a rumor that Steve Wyche from the NFL Network started, possibly from a source in Seatle who is trying to get a team to jump ahead of Seatle so they can pick up the LT they want.

Apparently Sal talked to the same source.

OR, this could be a rumor floaed by St. Louis in order for them to get someone to trade with them @ #2.


IT IS ONLY 2 DAYS UNTIL THE DRAFT. IF THIS WAS TRUE IT WOULDN'T HAVE COME OUT SOO EARLY. ALL A TEAM WOULD HAVE TO DO IS JUMP US AND WE'RE S.O.L!

THE RUMOR MAKES ABSOLUTELY NO SENSE. WHY WOULD THE JETS WANT JC17?

I come out of 4 hour meeting to this?!?! And why is Orakpo continuilly being pimped to us by others at the post? And now Moreno? WTF?!?!?

If any of you believe this, I feel soory for you!

See you on the field @ Redskins Stadium Saturday..........

Posted by: 4thFloor | April 23, 2009 3:21 PM | Report abuse

JM220 I hope you're right. But last season weren't you just as "certain" the 'Skins would beat Baltimore and thus make JLC look the fool? I think you posted that "certainty" almost as regularly as you've posted this one.

Posted by: mack1 | April 23, 2009 3:22 PM | Report abuse

Hey mack1. I hope all is well with you today. Yes, I sure did post that and was totally wrong. Like I posted the other day if I am wrong I will be here Saturday to state that I was totally wrong.

JM220

Posted by: icetotalpackage | April 23, 2009 3:25 PM | Report abuse

Danny will trade the 'Skins 6th round pick to Miami for the rights to Joe Theismann

Posted by: JohnDinHouston | April 23, 2009 3:25 PM | Report abuse

'....Homophobia... just as repugnant as ever!'


I agree.

Homophobia is just gay.

You'd think that in a football blog where tight ends and wide receivers are always the subject of discussion, homophobia wouldn't have a place.

Guys, let's all huddle together and work to stamp out the fear of men huddling together.

Posted by: MistaMoe | April 23, 2009 3:26 PM | Report abuse

Look at these RUMORS. Surrounding me everday.

I just need some time. Some time to get away-ay.

Look at all these rumors, can't take it no more.

Posted by: 4thFloor | April 23, 2009 3:26 PM | Report abuse

We should pick up Ramses "Don't call me Patrick" Barden in the 5th.

Posted by: Rypien11 | April 23, 2009 3:28 PM | Report abuse

i have always been a big fan Kelley Washingtion even back when he was playing with UT, i thought he was going to be a sure thing coming out of college i have no idea what happened to him

Posted by: mehtadman87 | April 23, 2009 3:32 PM | Report abuse

Kelly Washington would be a good pick up, though. He seems like a good 3rd/4th WR.....

Posted by: 4thFloor | April 23, 2009 3:33 PM | Report abuse

If anyone in the DMV area hears a massive pop after the Redskins do something stupid in the first round. Dont worry, that was just my head exploding like the white kid on the Chappelle show during the Black White supremacist skit.

Posted by: gatorskinz2000 | April 23, 2009 3:34 PM | Report abuse

Per PFT, Eagles are shopping Shawn Andrews...

Posted by: BeantownGreg | April 23, 2009 3:34 PM | Report abuse

Chiefs Deal Gonzales to Falcons for a 2nd rd pick

Posted by: gatorskinz2000 | April 23, 2009 3:39 PM | Report abuse

i have always been a big fan Kelley Washingtion even back when he was playing with UT, i thought he was going to be a sure thing coming out of college i have no idea what happened to himi have always been a big fan Kelley Washingtion even back when he was playing with UT, i thought he was going to be a sure thing coming out of college i have no idea what happened to him


The Bengals is what happened to him.

Posted by: KingJoffeJoffer | April 23, 2009 3:41 PM | Report abuse

JM220 -
I'm trying to prepare myself for the dissappointment though... I was very optimistic we would snag A smith or Oher the past few weeks, but if those tackles go like they did last year... well, its not good.

You have know idea how much I hope you are right.

Posted by: EinVB | April 23, 2009 3:42 PM | Report abuse

His line from the Pats: 24 games, 1 reception, 3 yds.

Somehow I hope that does not put him in the mix...

Posted by: amaranthpa | April 23, 2009 3:43 PM | Report abuse

Id give up #13, and our 5th rounder for Shawn Andrews and the Eagles #28. We could grab Mack or Britton there and a DE in the 3rd and still have two late picks. That would be sweeeeeet.

Posted by: Rypien11 | April 23, 2009 3:43 PM | Report abuse

I like this attempted addition. If anything else, I remember Washington being a very good special teams player. That alone should allow him to supplant James Thrash, and he's bound to be a better receiver at this point in their respective careers.

Posted by: psps23 | April 23, 2009 3:44 PM | Report abuse

"It's statements like this that make me seriously doubt what sounds like knowledgeable evaluation of college prospects by you.

Posted by: psps23"

I have the right to my own Doom & Gloom 2009 Campaign if I want to!

I will give honest evaluations of all players until they are on the Washington Redskins, then they turn to muldge (even if muldge isn't a word).


Come on, we suck.

Posted by: TheTruth11 | April 23, 2009 3:44 PM | Report abuse

any links to that JLACA chat?

Posted by: TheTruth11 | April 23, 2009 3:45 PM | Report abuse

'...Eagles are shopping Shawn Andrews...'

Let's see.

They let Tra Thomas and Jon Runyon go and are now supposed to be shopping Shawn Anbrews.

We need o-line and the iggles are giving theirs away.

Geez..!

It suggests that green team might be thinking it'll replenish its offensive line with youth and athleticism and Knowshon Moreno having already drafted in K Kolb a possible replacement for Chi-Town's finest, D McNabb.

What a luxury!

It makes a skins' fan jealous!

They have a ton of picks and the wisdom to get younger up front while the Wizards of Redskins Park pick their noses like a bunch of young'ns!

I hope they pick a winner at 13, 'cuz that looks like the only green our team will get.

Posted by: MistaMoe | April 23, 2009 3:47 PM | Report abuse

Ryan (Fairfax, VA): Hey Matt. I keep hearing the Redskins need for an O Lineman but with such a deep OLine class don't you think they should get a DE to flank Haynesworth and an OLineman in later rounds?

Matt Mosley: (10:15 AM ET ) This team has neglected interior linemen in the draft for years. I think they need to be patient at 13 and see who's there. I actually think it's a good place to be. There's always a chance someone like Andre Smith or Mike Oher is sitting there. And you could also hope for Brian Orakpo or even Ayers from Tennessee. But I agree that if you're going to guarantee Haynesworth $41 mil, it makes sense to surround him at least one or two talented (young) defensive ends. Right now it's Andre Carter and some geezers.


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Sanjay (Da Iladel, PA): Considering the Skins signed Haynesworth to compete right now, won't drafting a guy like Sanchez, who is clearly not ready to start immediately with his limited college experience, set the Redskins playoff chances back a couple years? I think it would be difficult to keep Campbell as a starter with one year left on his contract and Sanchez as a backup.

Matt Mosley: (10:18 AM ET ) Franchise quarterbacks are hard to come by. If the 'Skins have truly fallen in love with Sanchez (and I'm not convinced they have), then you don't have a bunch of "win now" discussions. Did anyone think the Falcons would "win now" after drafting Ryan. I think you'd bring the kid in and let him compete with Campbell. If Campbell wins, that might actually be a positive thing.
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Travis (Jacksonville, FL): Analysts are saying that the Jaguars may pick a QB at #8. Me personally think it is ludacris, what are your thoughts?

Matt Mosley: (10:30 AM ET ) Everything's a smokescreen right now...But keep in mind that Del Rio's tied in pretty close to that whole USC scene. I wouldn't be surprised if he grabbed Sanchez at No. 8.
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vic (dc) [via mobile]: do u think the redskins will move up to get sanchez? or do they hope for maybin or orakpo to drop

Matt Mosley: (10:45 AM ET ) 'Skins are privately saying it's not going to happen. But I don't believe anything right now. Not even my wife. Kidding.
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Jared, baltimore: Matt, love your staff dude, keep up the good work... whats this I hear about the skinz trading JC17 to the Jets now??? Obviously it'd be to grab Sanchez, but we'd pretty much have to throw him in the fire w/ somewhat of a suspect line. Smart or Dan Snyder-ish stupid???

Matt Mosley: (10:48 AM ET ) I think you're hearing a lot of crazy stuff right now. But Campbell was indeed Joe Gibbs' guy. Dan Snyder's and Co. aren't sold on the guy. So yes, they're listening to offers. But they'd like to land at least a second-rounder for him. Most teams aren't willing to do that.

Posted by: mafreeman | April 23, 2009 3:48 PM | Report abuse

ryp, if he didn't have the back injury, and the possible mental issues, I'd agree with you. He's a road-grader, and that deal makes a lot of sense, but back injuries on heavy guys scare me.

Posted by: BeantownGreg | April 23, 2009 3:49 PM | Report abuse

I agree with PSP. If the guy can become a sold replacement for thrash and an emergency no 3 guy it works out

Posted by: alex35332 | April 23, 2009 3:50 PM | Report abuse

Every time you think the Chiefs are making progress they do something insane. They just basically packed it up for the year when they traded Tony G.

Posted by: Pleepleus | April 23, 2009 3:50 PM | Report abuse

Thrash vs Washington over last 2 years

Washington: 24 games, 1 reception, 3 yds
Thrash: 28 games, 18 receptions, 188 yds, 3 tds

Take your pick...

Posted by: amaranthpa | April 23, 2009 3:53 PM | Report abuse

"I have the right to my own Doom & Gloom 2009 Campaign if I want to!

I will give honest evaluations of all players until they are on the Washington Redskins, then they turn to muldge (even if muldge isn't a word).

Posted by: TheTruth11"

Fair enough, consider me informed of your reference points.

Posted by: psps23 | April 23, 2009 3:53 PM | Report abuse

skins serious bout sanchez.........from espn..........

http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/draft09/news/story?id=4092024

Posted by: mafreeman | April 23, 2009 3:54 PM | Report abuse

Ryp,

That would be incredible.

The eagles might be willing to do that as they have already said they want to trade up to ensure they get Moreno.

but then again that would make to much sense, to get 2 young guys for our o line. oh well.

Posted by: theFreshinAU | April 23, 2009 3:54 PM | Report abuse

Kelley Washington 2009=Billy McMullen 2008

Posted by: 4-12 | April 23, 2009 3:59 PM | Report abuse

As frustrated as I am we don't have to suck. If sellers doesn't fumble in cincy we prob win in frisco too and we're a playoff team. I'm sure many teams have similar scenario but we are not dreadful which is why I don't understand the idea of a new qb. Oh btw jc17 looked pretty good on his late game drive in sf. He was good in 4th quarter last yr. Not everyone (Dallas?) can say that

Posted by: AdamCr | April 23, 2009 4:01 PM | Report abuse

And just to be complete with the comparison over last 2 years:

Spec Teams;
Washington: 25 tackles, 18 solo
Thrash: 20 tackles, 16 solo

Those were pretty much Washington's only years with tackles (he had 2 in 06).

I'd stick with Thrash. You know what you have, despite diminished skills due to age, you can't argue the work ethic and quality individual that Thrash is.

Posted by: amaranthpa | April 23, 2009 4:06 PM | Report abuse

mafreeman...

Welcome back! That report is only 8 or 9 hours old...

Yes, Snyderatto are in hot pursuit of their next boy toy...

Posted by: EinVB | April 23, 2009 4:06 PM | Report abuse

Does anyone under the age of 25 know that the word "ludicrous" is not spelled "ludacris"?

Posted by: JohnDinHouston | April 23, 2009 4:06 PM | Report abuse

Thrash vs Washington over last 2 years

Washington: 24 games, 1 reception, 3 yds
Thrash: 28 games, 18 receptions, 188 yds, 3 tds

Take your pick...

Posted by: amaranthpa | April 23, 2009 3:53 PM

Dude, look at each's situation. Kelly Washington was stacked behind Stallworth/Moss/Welker. He couldn't sniff the field with them in front of him. So he played primarily special teams in the 18-1 season.

I don't know what happened last year though. But it's only an invitation to practice for a spot. WTF is the big deal?

Posted by: 4thFloor | April 23, 2009 4:08 PM | Report abuse

From Maske:

'No Timetable' on Tampering Case
NFL Commissioner Roger Goodell wrote during an online chat with fans Wednesday that there is "no timetable" for the league to conclude its investigation of an allegation that the Washington Redskins had improper contact with defensive tackle Albert Haynesworth before signing him as a free agent earlier this offseason.

"We treat all charges of tampering seriously," Goodell wrote on the NFL's website. "We explore it, we will do a thorough review and come to a conclusion as soon as possible. But there is no timetable."

The Redskins potentially could face the loss of draft picks if the league determines that they violated NFL rules during the Haynesworth negotiations.

Under league rules, a player eligible for free agency cannot negotiate with teams other than his most recent club until the free agent market officially opens. Haynesworth's previous team, the Tennessee Titans, reportedly submitted evidence to the league of a possible violation by the Redskins.

http://views.washingtonpost.com/theleague/nflnewsfeed/2009/04/no-timetable-on-haynesworth-tampering-case.html#more

Posted by: 4thFloor | April 23, 2009 4:11 PM | Report abuse

EinVB,

thanks man. been working hard all day didnt catch that the info was already out. got the grey goose on ice already so that i can drink away my pain if it comes to fruition...........

why must we have the worst FO in the history of the league??? these two make matt millen look like a genius.........

Posted by: mafreeman | April 23, 2009 4:11 PM | Report abuse

"I'd stick with Thrash. You know what you have

Posted by: amaranthpa"

This is precisely the reason why I would NOT stick with Thrash. Great guy, not an NFL receiver (anymore).

Posted by: psps23 | April 23, 2009 4:12 PM | Report abuse

Washington couldn't get in ahead of gaffney??

Posted by: AdamCr | April 23, 2009 4:16 PM | Report abuse

Washington couldn't get in ahead of gaffney??

Posted by: AdamCr | April 23, 2009 4:16 PM

Gaffney wasn't on the team that year.

In 2007, th patriots acuired Kelley Washingotn, Wes Welker, Dante Stallworth, and Randy Moss in the same offseason.

Kelley was the odd man out as far as playing time.

Posted by: 4thFloor | April 23, 2009 4:19 PM | Report abuse

Bet they give him number 53. No one will ever know the difference since neither of them will touch the field!

Posted by: Hail2theChief | April 23, 2009 4:19 PM | Report abuse

DRAFT SANCHEZ!

Posted by: Hail2theChief | April 23, 2009 4:24 PM | Report abuse

Ok, regardless of who they pick at #13, or if they pick at #13, they should be taking a look at Fenuki Topou, out of Oregon, as a Guard at some jucture in the draft.

Posted by: BeantownGreg | April 23, 2009 4:25 PM | Report abuse

mafreeman...

I hear you... I've been distracted by this all week. I will definitely need something to numb the pain this weekend. I just can't wait to find out what happens so we can move forward. Sick of being in limbo on this junk...

We've waited too long for this team to turn the page, its about time.

Move up and pick one of the top 2 OT's if you know the top 4 will be gone! Otherwise, sit tight and hope Orakpo falls or trade back.... Leave Dirty Sanchez alone...

Posted by: EinVB | April 23, 2009 4:25 PM | Report abuse

And just to be complete with the comparison over last 2 years:

Spec Teams;
Washington: 25 tackles, 18 solo
Thrash: 20 tackles, 16 solo

Those were pretty much Washington's only years with tackles (he had 2 in 06).

I'd stick with Thrash. You know what you have, despite diminished skills due to age, you can't argue the work ethic and quality individual that Thrash is.


Posted by: amaranthpa | April 23, 2009 4:06 PM | Report abuse

I wouldn't. Thrash is a great community and locker room guy, no question. But, he is old and slow, and can't make the plays when on the field at WR. Remember last year when we were in desperation mode at teh end of several games and he would a) get defended or b) not catch the ball?? I would take Washington as interchangeable on Special Teams, who is only a 6 year vet. The roster is going to keep getting younger, and its time for a great Redskin to take his place in His Life, Part 2.

Posted by: SkinsfaninKaneohe | April 23, 2009 4:27 PM | Report abuse

4thFloor,

The situation notwithstanding, last year Washington produced less than any other player on the Patriots that caught at least one pass - that includes WR Sam Aiken, and virtually all the TEs and RBs. He did catch one more than rookie WR Matt Slater, however.

Posted by: amaranthpa | April 23, 2009 4:27 PM | Report abuse

Hey guys i'm out until next week. no matter what happens this weekend let's all agree we want the best(whatever that maybe) for our team. until monday. Hail to the Redskins!

Posted by: Hail2theChief | April 23, 2009 4:28 PM | Report abuse

Sanchez started 16 games in college, right?

Posted by: Alan4 | April 23, 2009 4:28 PM | Report abuse

lol @ James Thrash

Posted by: TheTruth11 | April 23, 2009 4:29 PM | Report abuse

didn't K. Washington have a serious neck injury? I thought that was the major reason he never panned out.

In any case, I don't want him. If we could've brought in an accomplishe and likeable vet like Holt to help mentor the young guys that would've been great. But I don't like this move. I think 11 and/or 12 will produce this year.

As for draft - I continue to repeatedly hab my Danny Doll with pins and pray that we don't take Sanchez...JC is on the verge of breaking out and now Snyder wants to toss him out. Sweet.

Posted by: Notorious_LMG | April 23, 2009 4:29 PM | Report abuse

jab

Posted by: Notorious_LMG | April 23, 2009 4:30 PM | Report abuse

I am a person from the future. I came in my teleporter and am from the year 2089. I remember back in history that Daniel Snyder has traded away our draft picks in every year until 2052 when he sold the team due to old age. We never won a super bowl under his ownership and became the team that the superbowl champs, the Detroit Lions used to be, a laughing stock, the celler dwellers. So I had to come back to the past year 2009 to let you all know that we had a terrible history. Oh, by the way, Joe Gibbs grandson owns the team now and has a winning record like his grandfather did. I have to go, the teleporter is warming up! Peace be with you!

Posted by: KurtShanaman | April 23, 2009 4:40 PM | Report abuse

Matt Hasselbeck:

3rd Year NFL, 1st under Zorn: 7 TDs, 8 INTs, 70.9 QB rate

4rd Year NFL, 2nd under Zorn: 15 TDs, 10 INTs, 87.8 QB rate

5th Year NFL, 3nd under Zorn: 26 TDs, 15 INTs, 88.8 QB rate (Pro-Bowl)

(Also Pro-Bowl in 7th and 9th year in NFL, his 5th and 7th under Zorn)

JC17:

3rd Year NFL: 12 TDs, 11 INTs, 77.6 QB rate

4rd Year NFL, 1st under Zorn: 13 TDs, 6 INTs, 84.3 QB rate

5th Year NFL, 2nd under Zorn: ?????

Why wouldn't a Skins fan want JC17's progress to continue?

Posted by: Alan4 | April 23, 2009 4:42 PM | Report abuse

I've grown weary of all the rumor and speculation. Perhaps the crack FO that runs the 'Skins will astonish all and actually address our needs on the OL. Until we have good lines on both sides of the ball no amount of 'skill' players will help us. We drafted 3 recievers last year when all the talk was about linemen and our need there. We see how that has worked out. Is Sanchez bound for FedEx? Lord I hope not since we drafted Colt as a project and I don't see Sanchez as anything better than Colt. Weren't Colt's numbers better than Sanchez's in college while playing with less talent around him?

Posted by: splitbill | April 23, 2009 4:43 PM | Report abuse

Person from the future - I know you're a liar because time travel will not be invented until 2100 -

Posted by: JohnDinHouston | April 23, 2009 4:43 PM | Report abuse

I would take Washington as interchangeable on Special Teams, who is only a 6 year vet. The roster is going to keep getting younger, and its time for a great Redskin to take his place in His Life, Part 2.

Posted by: SkinsfaninKaneohe

Since we are (or should be) talking about a 4th or 5th WR for either Washington or Thrash, if you are going to get younger at that position, use it for a young player - Washington will be 30 this summer. Otherwise, keep Thrash as a mentor. He is at least as productive as Washington and the locker room guy you want and was a quality receiver.

Posted by: amaranthpa | April 23, 2009 4:43 PM | Report abuse

damn how old is Gibbs' grandson in 2089? is he still coherent/lucid? I guess he couldn't be less so than Snyder/Cerrato are now.

How about Al Davis? Is he still kicking, that leathery old Ba$t@rd? is he running the team while cryogenically frozen?

Posted by: Notorious_LMG | April 23, 2009 4:46 PM | Report abuse

Why wouldn't a Skins fan want JC17's progress to continue?

Posted by: Alan4 | April 23, 2009 4:42 PM | Report abuse

Very good question. Only answer I can come up with is "SNyder and Cerrato are idiots" Danny is a fan, grew up in MD, but he knows nothing about NFL talent. Vinny isn't much better.

Posted by: Notorious_LMG | April 23, 2009 4:49 PM | Report abuse

Hey mack1. I hope all is well with you today. Yes, I sure did post that and was totally wrong. Like I posted the other day if I am wrong I will be here Saturday to state that I was totally wrong.

JM220

Posted by: icetotalpackage | April 23, 2009 3:25 PM

JM I hope you're doing well and I also hope the Vanny is actually running a bluff and you don't have to get on here Saturday and say you were wrong. Because if Vanny starts giving away future picks to get a QB, you or JLC being right or wrong will be the least of our troubles.

Posted by: mack1 | April 23, 2009 4:52 PM | Report abuse

Stephens City,VA

Touchdown SHEEEEEEEEERANDO!!!!!

Good to see the local boy get some love! Sherando just sent a QB to UVA for next year by the name of Ross Metheny.

Posted by: Keenan1 | April 23, 2009 4:53 PM | Report abuse

N_LMG, If Snyder and Vinny were running the Seahawks, they probably would have traded Hasselbeck right before his breakout season and mortgaged the future to draft Byron Leftwich.

Posted by: Alan4 | April 23, 2009 4:55 PM | Report abuse

Redskins may just be able to get a multi- team, multi- position bidding war going for their pick at 13.

Lions need an OT and they have the 20 and 33 picks.

Malcolm Jenkins may draw some interest from several teams willing to move up in front of their competition for him.

Knowshon Moreno may draw some serious interest from several teams looking to jump each other to get him.

Seems to me Redskins only have two starting spots available: SAM and FS IF you assume that Laron should really be best leveraging his skills at SS. Cushing and Jenkins are those two guys at 13, IMO.

After that Redskins NEED OL youth and depth as the line as it is written now is ok... but the problem is as soon as one guy gets dinged it gets ugly FAST. As we all know from last year.

Vinny was able to package the 21 for more picks last year and I hope he does so again this year. I think the best value is to trade back and get a SAM later in the first with a team that is desperate to come and get Jenkins or Moreno.

Now, IF they can get Sanchez at 4 for the 13 and the third AND get the 17 or 19 from the Jets OR Bucs for JC17 and a later round pick, I would do it. Not sure Jets or Bucs would do it, but that is the deal I would demand. Jets or Bucs would be essentially drafting an experienced above avg starter at 17 or 19 and a 3/4 rounder.

If you can't move JC, you can't pick Sanchez. With the 17/19 you can get SAM or ...wait for it.... C/G Mack.

I really like JC, but I would take Sanchez AND another first round pick and wish him well against everybody but Redskins.

Redskins have lots of options and are willing to wheel and deal, which obviously increases their leverage particularly if they can get a bidding war going for their 13. Its not a bad place to be, lets see how it gets executed.

Posted by: SkinsfaninKaneohe | April 23, 2009 4:56 PM | Report abuse

THE RUMOR MAKES ABSOLUTELY NO SENSE. WHY WOULD THE JETS WANT JC17?

Physically he is probably the best specimen at QB short of Vick and perhaps JaMarcus Russell. His best work was is offense 4 in college: WestCoast.
His best year in the pros: WestCoast.

I'd place him in the top 5 for QB's right now.

There must be A LOT of teams interested in him! But, they aren't a bunch of gullible high school kids. They know Snidely is like a kid out for a lark driving for the first time with no parents aboard. He is out-of-control. They figure rightly that Snyder will just release Campbell if he gets Sanchez.

Best description of Snyder comes from good old alt.flame:

"He is loaded to the gills with senseless tackling dummies for ideas, he is someone who thinks it's the greatest sort of compliment when you pay any attention to him at all, whether you best him or not. He eats it up."

He is after all is said and done the Snidely Owl of Woodward High.

Posted by: periculum | April 23, 2009 4:59 PM | Report abuse

kelly washington is a very good special teams player - just as good as james thrash - he's gotta be a better wr than james thrash

Posted by: coparker5 | April 23, 2009 5:02 PM | Report abuse

Bucs pro personnel director Doug Williams is a "big fan" of Jason Campbell, according to the St. Petersburg Times.
Tampa and Campbell are both the subject of QB trade rumors right now. An ex-Redskin himself, Williams may have gained some power when GM Bruce Allen was fired. It'd likely take a three-team deal to get Campbell to Tampa.
Source: St. Petersburg Times

Posted by: slimbo-Rice | April 23, 2009 5:09 PM | Report abuse

From the Official Site of the Washington Redskins: Redskins May Pursue Offensive Tackles In Draft.

In 10 years, the 2009 NFL Draft may go down as one of the best ever for offensive tackles.
That could be good news for the Redskins, who have identified the position as a need this offseason.
The Redskins’ entire starting offensive line consists of players past the age of 30. That includes Pro Bowl left tackle Chris Samuels, who turns 32 in July, and right tackle Jon Jansen, who is 33....

One can only hope.

Posted by: Alan4 | April 23, 2009 5:12 PM | Report abuse

'...Why wouldn't a Skins fan want JC17's progress to continue?'

It's not the fans, it's a front office that just seem to be patient enough to see the end product of its efforts and investments.

But we're all putting the cart before the horse. Mark Sanchez has not been drafted by the team, and so far, the chattering against Campbell and for Sanchez reads the same as what was said regarding Cutler and Campbell.

All that's changed is the name 'cutler'.

Jason Campbell will have a good year provided he's given the best situation to prepare an advance in...and that's where the front office should have the bulk of its attention.

Posted by: MistaMoe | April 23, 2009 5:13 PM | Report abuse

There's a Fox mock with the Giants getting Sintim & Loadholt in the 2nd. That would truly suck.

Posted by: will_ga | April 23, 2009 5:17 PM | Report abuse

The Washington Redskins began contract extension talks with LB Rocky McIntosh on Thursday morning. McIntosh is due to receive $535,000 in 2009, which is the final year of the contract he signed as a rookie in 2006.

McIntosh, 27, was a second-round draft pick in 2006, and he became a starter for the Redskins in 2007. Last season, he was second on the Redskins’ defense with 87 tackles, adding two sacks, two forced fumbles and one interception.

Could make some mockers think that perhaps they don't have a linebacker in their sites come draft day.

Posted by: periculum | April 23, 2009 5:20 PM | Report abuse

I can almost guaran-goddam-tee you that trading JC17 will come back to haunt the Skins, like leading the Bucs to the SuperBowl and then being the featured Campbells Soup jock, relentlessly played over and over in Redskin's Snyder-Hell..

Posted by: frak | April 23, 2009 5:22 PM | Report abuse

I really do think JC17 can be very good this year. If we get some decent effort out of 11/12, 86 and better blocking we have a great chance to compete for the division if not more. The fact that Dan/Vin don't see this is such a letdown.

Posted by: will_ga | April 23, 2009 5:23 PM | Report abuse

So to summarize, the Redskins may get Sanchez while moving Campbell, take Jenkins, OT, Cushing or whoever at 13, or SAM, C/G, or whoever with the Jets/Bucs pick.

Redskins really could comfortably Move up, Stand pat or Move back, and all are viable options. Call me an idiot, too, but that is excellent postitioning and strategy.

Posted by: SkinsfaninKaneohe | April 23, 2009 5:45 PM | Report abuse

My sources tell me matt sanchez lacks the intelligence for a pro offense. If we let Campbell go it will be lamented a long time.

Posted by: AdamCr | April 23, 2009 5:49 PM | Report abuse

They don't see this because Danny sees Redskins hiring the same way that he does a business - look, if I leave my company today, they are at least 20 dozen people in the Houston area that can be a Marketing Analyst - (they would lack my special zest for life, of course). Plug one of those suckers in, and after a couple of months, nothing is changed, nothing is worse, maybe it's better - company still makes money. Even at a Director or VP level, there are very few corporate positions that would impact a company greatly if the person was replaced.

Baseball and basketball teams probably can replace players and not miss a beat unless it's a star.

Football teams need to develop a team concept over a period of years, using the same players - patience is required and sometimes having the second best QB instead of the next hot thing could still work out better for the team question.

Posted by: JohnDinHouston | April 23, 2009 5:50 PM | Report abuse

My sources tell me matt sanchez lacks the intelligence for a pro offense. If we let Campbell go it will be lamented a long time.

Posted by: AdamCr | April 23, 2009 5:49 PM | Report abuse

Romophobia, as repugnant as ever. Just because one hispanically-named quarterback is an idiot doesn't mean they all are.

Posted by: SMACK1 | April 23, 2009 5:52 PM | Report abuse

He's no smarter than jc. Btw where has all leinarts college experience with the pro style offense in college gotten him?

Posted by: AdamCr | April 23, 2009 5:59 PM | Report abuse

LOL, Sanchez, who played at NFL AAA USC for Pete Carroll, is too stupid to play in the League.

One of Sanchez' supposed best qualities is his intelligence, football and otherwise.

Posted by: SkinsfaninKaneohe | April 23, 2009 6:00 PM | Report abuse

Romophobia, as repugnant as ever. Just because one hispanically-named quarterback is an idiot doesn't mean they all are.

Posted by: SMACK1

Actually, the fact that he's hispanic gets kudos from me, we haven't had too many hispanic dudes on the Skins..He'll love Adams Morgan and Mt. Pleasant..But we still need that OT..and DE..

Posted by: frak | April 23, 2009 6:01 PM | Report abuse

If you like Fantasy Football, Watch the Redskins.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2009/04/23/AR2009042303065.html
Wilbon's column sums up the situation well.

I'm ready to jump out of my skin here. If we're lucky the price will be too high. But what's next. They already pulled this Cutler BS - now this Sanchez crap?! What are we in store for for the next decade?!

Why don't you put Tom Cruise at quarterback you jerk. YOU CHILD.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UFBZ_uAbxS0

Posted by: BrooklynSkins | April 23, 2009 6:03 PM | Report abuse

I can almost guaran-goddam-tee you that trading JC17 will come back to haunt the Skins, like leading the Bucs to the SuperBowl and then being the featured Campbells Soup jock, relentlessly played over and over in Redskin's Snyder-Hell...

Posted by: frak | April 23, 2009

For that I fervently hope, just so we, along with the press, can rid Snyder mercilessly until he sells the team and leaves town.

Posted by: periculum | April 23, 2009 6:10 PM | Report abuse

Does anyone under the age of 25 know that the word "ludicrous" is not spelled "ludacris"?

Posted by: JohnDinHouston | April 23, 2009

Depends...have they seen "Spaceballs" or no?

I can totally picture Dan Snyder ordering ludicrous speed. And being surrounded by a-holes. And going from suck to blow. The list goes on and on...

Posted by: moo21 | April 23, 2009 6:22 PM | Report abuse

Spaceballs, the football team

/Moychandising

Posted by: moo21 | April 23, 2009 6:23 PM | Report abuse

I was actually kidding I don't know if his sorry a$$ is smart or not. I, like you all, have no sources. So remember that next time you go assuming jc17 can't solve differential equations!

But seriously one of the big strengths of leinart was supposed to be his smarts and maturity. So smart he's a backup so mature he's in the hot tub taking pics with underage stank coeds.

Qbs this high, if not pressing need, ain't worth the risk!

Posted by: AdamCr | April 23, 2009 6:25 PM | Report abuse

no sanchez!!! no sanchez!!! j.cam is the man!!! trade the pick for more picks and build up the lines!!!

Posted by: jimmy_the_crickett | April 23, 2009 6:50 PM | Report abuse

This just in...
Redskins Sign Punter, Hunter

http://www.kltv.com/Global/story.asp?S=10239707&nav=1TjF

Posted by: _Stumped_ | April 23, 2009 6:59 PM | Report abuse

OK guys, here's the real lowdown:

This is no smokescreen.

The Skins are full-on interested in Sanchez. You don't go to these lengths to put up an smokescreen (swanky dinner w/top brass, trade discussions with other teams, etc.).

The question is how badly someone else wants Sanchez and whether we are going to be willing to pny up what is necessary.

Our only hope is that there is another "Colangelo" out there who is gonna drive up the price too high for us to pull the trigger. While our FO clearly likes Sanchez, I do believe that they will not totally lose their heads ovwer him.

Posted by: p1funk | April 23, 2009 7:02 PM | Report abuse

We are sooooo gonna blow this draft.

The saddest part is that I believe that next year the NFC East is for the taking. Eli will be exposed as the crappy qb that he is without Plax, and so will Romo without Owens. Both teams will regress. That leaves us and the Eagles. And the Eagles go as far as McNabb's health.

Posted by: kingtutts | April 23, 2009 7:16 PM | Report abuse

Hey, I just noticed that, to replace Holt, the Rams signed Horace Gant last week.
He's clearly an upgrade, alphabetically.

Posted by: daggar | April 23, 2009 7:21 PM | Report abuse

The internet is a strange, scary place, way too full of information for its' own good. As proof, I submit the following from Spag's bio on NFL.com:
- First NFL job came as an intern in the Washington Redskins personnel department in 1983. Also where he first met Rams general manager Billy Devaney.
- Married to wife Maria, a native of Philadelphia and a hairstylist by trade. The couple met on a blind date and was married at the Vatican in Italy.

I wonder who came up with that "give me a glimpse of your family life, Steve" paragraph?

Posted by: daggar | April 23, 2009 7:27 PM | Report abuse

I played against Kelley Washington in high school. He was an all-state punter at Sherando, believe it or not. Little known fact.

He was a fine third WR behind Chad Johnson and TJ in Cincy. But when they drafted Chris Henry, who I consider immensely talented, he got bumped.

Tremendous special teams player and made play after play for New England as their gunner during the '08 Super Bowl run.

Posted by: petestu2 | April 23, 2009 7:32 PM | Report abuse

classic daggar, classic.

Posted by: _Stumped_ | April 23, 2009 7:36 PM | Report abuse

Campbell will ask for trade if Redskins draft a QB

Posted: News | Steve Wyche | Tags: 2009 NFL Draft, Jason Campbell, Jay Cutler, Mark Sanchez, Washington Redskins

Jason Campbell will request to be traded should the Redskins acquire a quarterback in this weekend’s draft.

The Redskins, who have the 13th overall pick in this weekend’s draft, reportedly have shown substantial interest in USC QB Mark Sanchez. However, Sanchez could be selected in the top five — long before the Redskins are scheduled to pick.

The Redskins likely would have to trade up to take Sanchez. If they were to land Sanchez, it would mark the second time they have made an attempt to acquire a quarterback in the past few weeks. Washington reportedly made trade overtures toward Denver for Jay Cutler before he was dealt to Chicago.

Campbell, a first-round pick by the Redskins in 2005, has said he wasn’t bothered by the team’s inquiry for Cutler. However, another attempt to secure Campbell’s replacement or successor wouldn’t go over well.

Posted by: KingJoffeJoffer | April 23, 2009 7:38 PM | Report abuse

I notice Wyche doesn't give any sources for this.

Posted by: chasgiffen | April 23, 2009 7:44 PM | Report abuse

So let's say that the Skins don't get Sanchez. Then what? The team's decider has indicated that he wants a WCO system, an O scheme that will score points and put excitement in the game for fans like you and me. Snyder's expertise is marketing and he knows there is a limit to how much you can market a team on flashy personnel moves. You need a product that has pizzazz. Anyway, back to the what next question. Campbell clearly is not a proto WCO QB and would not be on the team if the FO could start over personnel-wise and build their WCO from square one. Cutler and Sanchez would have worked well in a WCO system but they are taken. Next year's crop of college QBs doesn't appear to have any WCO QBs that are standouts. ??? PS - nobody knows that QBs can be real difference makers more than Chad OC. Just ask him about 2007 and 2008.

Posted by: AntonChigurh | April 23, 2009 7:45 PM | Report abuse

Wyche called ir a senario.... Not meat to the story.

Posted by: slimbo-Rice | April 23, 2009 7:45 PM | Report abuse

On the NFL Network, Wyche just talked about Campbell demanding a trade if the Skins select Sanchez BUT Wyche simply said "he was told."

Adam Caplan from Scout.com was on WaPo Live - he said he thinks Sanchez is nothing special.....does not have a great arm but is accurate for 20 yards. Caplan said he does not think Seattle will pick Sanchez so could trade the pick. He also said Scott Pioli with the Chiefs would love to trade out of the #3 pick.

Caplan said that the Bills want Andre Smith and will probably try to trade up to get him.

Posted by: Lisa_R | April 23, 2009 7:46 PM | Report abuse

Also, the NFL Network just reported that Seattle's GM said they have no intention of drafting Sanchez....said they are happy with Hasselbeck.

That's just GREAT :( Here comes Snyder - probably already on the phone to the Seahawks.

Posted by: Lisa_R | April 23, 2009 7:51 PM | Report abuse

Campbell clearly is not a proto WCO QB

So him going undefeated his last year at Auburn, in which they ran a west coast offense, was just a fluke huh? Some of you are just haters.

Posted by: KingJoffeJoffer | April 23, 2009 7:51 PM | Report abuse

King - Steve Wyche is a MoFo tool!

He has estalished ZERO credibility. Just because he is on NFL Network doesn't give him credibility. He hasn't broken any news.

NONE. So, please don't take his report as any kind of Gospel. Stop it....

Posted by: 4thFloor | April 23, 2009 7:53 PM | Report abuse

Every 'Skins Fan check out this April 23, 2009 published mock draft:

http://myespn.go.com/blogs/nflnation/0-7-347/-SportsCenter--mock-draft.html

It appears Mark Sanchez is gonna fall outta the top 10 picks and right into our laps.

Posted by: Vicc | April 23, 2009 7:55 PM | Report abuse

Finally... just two days to go and we'll know... something... maybe...

Posted by: NateinthePDX | April 23, 2009 7:57 PM | Report abuse

To all sports writers may I say, Honesty is the best policy.

This is irresponsible reporting when every1 knows Mark Sanchez is not falling outta the top 10 picks.

Posted by: Vicc | April 23, 2009 7:59 PM | Report abuse

4th

Not taking it as gospel, just sharing with everyone. Hopefully it is a moot point. My comment was in reference to JC's viability as West coast QB.

Posted by: KingJoffeJoffer | April 23, 2009 8:00 PM | Report abuse

To all sports writers may I say, Honesty is the best policy.

This is irresponsible reporting when every1 knows Mark Sanchez is not falling outta the top 10 picks.

Posted by: Vicc | April 23, 2009 7:59 PM | Report abuse

I think they just do that becasue they beleive the Redskins are going to get him and in mock drafts they do factor trades so they just "make" him drop.

Posted by: slimbo-Rice | April 23, 2009 8:00 PM | Report abuse

Sorry, "Don't" factor trades in my last post.

Posted by: slimbo-Rice | April 23, 2009 8:01 PM | Report abuse

Vicc, I don't know about your mock draft, but The LA Times says "rumors now have the ex-Trojan going at No. 2 to St. Louis."

As Mike Tyson might say, I'll be ecstatic! If both top QBs are off the board in the first 2 picks, that improves the odds the Skins will have to address an actual area of need. Focus on the problem (O-line), not the symptoms (poor offensive production).

Posted by: Alan4 | April 23, 2009 8:02 PM | Report abuse

Having lived in Stephens City, VA, I wish Kelley the best. I hope he can make the team. He's a class A good guy.

Posted by: kirk8 | April 23, 2009 8:04 PM | Report abuse

I agree Alan4.

Personally I would like us to draft one of the top 4 tackles, but my gut is telling me that none of them will be available at the 13th pick.

I hope we trade down under that scenario.

Posted by: Vicc | April 23, 2009 8:05 PM | Report abuse

King - Cool. But I think we need to mention he has ZERO CREDIBILTY and the NFL Network is testing him out as the replacement for Adam Schefter. So far, he has done didly and thinks this redskin rumor will start his TV career......

To expound from my earlier post, Wyche 1st started this rumor yesterday on NFL Network. Then Sal picked it up today when the legs on the story started.

So, I would hypothesis that Wyche prob contacted JOel Segal, JC17's agent and asked him what if this scenario happened? And Segal told him that he would ask for a trade.

But, the thing is, this is a false rumor started by another team. If we were to trade into the top 10, no way in heck would this had leaked out 2 whole days before the draft.

Posted by: 4thFloor | April 23, 2009 8:09 PM | Report abuse

Yep, trade down and get Britton, Beatty or Mack Truck.

Posted by: chasgiffen | April 23, 2009 8:09 PM | Report abuse

Vicc, if the QBs are gone in the first 2 picks, that is a sign to me one of the top 4 tackles will be there. A lot of early mocks had OTs going in the top 2 spots, and I'm not conviced many teams want to spend a first round pick on a tackle if they don't have to. There are a lot of other glamor positions other teams will be tempted to pick from--WRs, RB, DE.

If any team needs to spend a first rounder on a tackle, it's us!

Posted by: Alan4 | April 23, 2009 8:15 PM | Report abuse

If any team needs to spend a first rounder on a tackle, it's us!

Posted by: Alan4 | April 23, 2009 8:15 PM

Huh? How do you figure? Forget about Heyer and Jansen al-F'ing-ready?

You don't think they are starting caliber. One out of the 2 of them? Why?

Posted by: 4thFloor | April 23, 2009 8:23 PM | Report abuse

But I think there's some new coaches and GM's (above us in the draft) that are more old school and believe in building the fundamentals first, and that won't help the Skins in terms of having the players we need drop to us... people like Spags, Singletary, Pioli...

Posted by: chasgiffen | April 23, 2009 8:24 PM | Report abuse

... McDaniel...

Posted by: chasgiffen | April 23, 2009 8:25 PM | Report abuse

Huh? How do you figure? Forget about Heyer and Jansen al-F'ing-ready?

You don't think they are starting caliber. One out of the 2 of them? Why?

Posted by: 4thFloor | April 23, 2009 8:23 PM

Do you remember games 9-16 last year?

Posted by: scampbell1975 | April 23, 2009 8:38 PM | Report abuse

Remember how the Steelers and Ravens treated our paper mache O-line?

Posted by: chasgiffen | April 23, 2009 8:44 PM | Report abuse

Yeah. I remember a stubborn Zorn, who was unwilling to reinsert Heyer into the line-up. I remember a passing game that never materialized out side of Santana. I remember a horse named Portis being drove into the ground the 1st 8 games. I remember a Defense that couldn't prevent the TD when we needed the other team not to score a TD in the 4th QTR.

To me, that is what summed up 9-16........

Posted by: 4thFloor | April 23, 2009 8:47 PM | Report abuse

Why even bother with this guy? His best season was in 2004? Good grief. If nothing else, bring in some first year guys. I hope their philosophy is this gy is just being brought in as a warm body to catch balls. There is no such thing as a "warm body" on a practice field. Every person on that field should be committed to starting and every coach on that field should be committed to developing every player on that field into a starter. To view these players as anything else is just a waste of valuable time.

Posted by: RedSkinHead | April 23, 2009 8:56 PM | Report abuse

Scary scenario...

KC has traded Gonzalez. They need a TE.

KC send Redskins their #3 overall for Chris Cooley, Redskins #13, and 3rd rounder next year..

Skins peddle Campbell somewhere for 5th rounder, announce plans to start Alarm Clock at TE next year.

Yeah, I know cap hit...but Man-Love don't know from cap Hits.


Posted by: TheCork | April 23, 2009 8:59 PM | Report abuse

Hmm Portis was "driven into the ground" the 1st 8 games of 2008? You mean he was tackled when he was averaging 118 yards a game and he should never be tackled? Alrighty then...

Posted by: chasgiffen | April 23, 2009 8:59 PM | Report abuse

4th Full Disclosure - I am in after happy hour mode feeling very happy and invincible..........

Now, Chas - I don't get what your saying? Those 100+ yard games Portis had were tuff yardage. 30+ carries mostly. You can't do tht in today's NF of L...........

Posted by: 4thFloor | April 23, 2009 9:06 PM | Report abuse

You better have another drink, Buckwheat. I'm buying. Portis' average for those 8 games: 23 carries/game, 5.0 yards/carry. *Poof* goes your argument. If angry, just punch the guy closest to you.

Posted by: chasgiffen | April 23, 2009 9:12 PM | Report abuse

Heyer sucked, Jansen sucked, Thomas was broken, Rabach was/is mediocre/small. Let's build a real O-wall. Lack of a strong O-wall caused the running and passing problems in the 2nd half.

Posted by: chasgiffen | April 23, 2009 9:16 PM | Report abuse

Oh, I forgot, Samuels got hurt too...

Posted by: chasgiffen | April 23, 2009 9:17 PM | Report abuse

Kelley would be a keeper. Great teams player and a solid 3 or 4. Good guy a future Thrash

Posted by: 3rings | April 23, 2009 9:22 PM | Report abuse

I'll ignore the Buckwheat part...

(Also, I don't get angry on here. Frustrated? Prob. But at the end of the day, it's all good. I'm just trying to bring some of youse negative posters to the bright side)

Ok, so portis didn't average 30+. I'll give you that. BUT, Portis was still the reason they won those games.

HAve you forgot that when we took the lead early in many games in the 4th QTR. All they did was run Portis and all he did was get 1st downs.

Sameuls was hurt but that's no excuse at all. How did Heyer suck? Jansen sucked all season, but I am willing to give him the benfit of the doubt because he and others have stated it takes 2 years to recover from his dislocated ankle....


On another note, Vinny just said on RN that they gave 146 players draftable Redskins grades. So, to me that means alot of people aren't even being considered. He said they have 20 1st round grades total on players......

Posted by: 4thFloor | April 23, 2009 9:27 PM | Report abuse

If it KW means we can say goodbye to that dog ARE I'm all for it!

Posted by: kone | April 24, 2009 7:37 AM | Report abuse

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