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Keenan McCardell/LaRon Landry Update

Heard the veteran WR has agreed to terms with Houston, as expected. The Skins had some serious interest in him, but only at the right price - the vet. min. He lives in Houston and if he was going to sign anywhere for that kind of money it was going to be there.

The Redskins WR group, to me, leaves much to be desired despite all the money they have spent at that position. There isn't much size there and we'll see if Lloyd or Randle El can be anything close to a productive No. 2 WR this season. Nothing in the past production says they can.

I have a good feeling about Espy, though, and maybe he can provide a spark as a reserve. Maybe they will look to Thrash on third down more as well for those tough 4-5 yard routes over the middle to keep the chains moving.

As for Landry, verified a few things and indeed, the Skins and Landry are just really getting cranked up in contract talks now. Still have much to discuss and I'll stick with a Thursday night/Friday morning prediction on a contract

By Jason La Canfora  |  July 23, 2007; 12:35 PM ET
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Posted by: JLin | July 23, 2007 12:51 PM | Report abuse


Posted by: Redcoat | July 23, 2007 12:55 PM | Report abuse

Thrash is a tough guy and a hard worker. It'd be great to see him get some more action on short yardage situations.

Posted by: SkinsFanSC | July 23, 2007 12:59 PM | Report abuse

Jason, any word on who shot Landry in the ___ during paintball?

Posted by: Lisa | July 23, 2007 1:04 PM | Report abuse

Any ballpark on where the Landry contract is going to end up $-wise... and any talk about contracts with Cooley?

Posted by: VTMatt | July 23, 2007 1:06 PM | Report abuse

Lisa - Landry Groingate is on the top of my bloggy list for this week once I see a few players who might have the details we seek.
We shall get to the bottom of it one way or the other.

Posted by: Jason La Canfora | July 23, 2007 1:07 PM | Report abuse

Thanks, Jason! Also, do you know what my man Shawn Springs named his baby?

Posted by: Lisa | July 23, 2007 1:12 PM | Report abuse

3) With your most serious poker-face, propose that to Gibbs that Snyder set up a pay-per-view 3-man grudge match between Grilliams, Buges, and Saunders to see who the actual real assistant head coach is...and the scripted twist would be Vinny Cerrato running in from the locker room with a steel chair and taking them all out...cut to Vince McMahon sipping port with Dan Snyder and Tom Cruise laughing at the whole spectale in a hotel suite.

Pfunk LMGO!!! You forgot to add Jim Ross yellin Vinny C like he use to yell Stone Cold. LMAO!! SJK

Posted by: jm220 | July 23, 2007 1:14 PM | Report abuse

Our WR's and DL concern me....I still think were a year or two away but by then we'll be starting over from square one with a new coaching staff....Depressing...

Posted by: Skinny | July 23, 2007 1:18 PM | Report abuse

I am now running around my office yelling Stone Cold! Stone Cold! Damn you Mr. McMahon. LMGO

Posted by: jm220 | July 23, 2007 1:20 PM | Report abuse

Lisa - Landry Groingate is on the top of my bloggy list for this week once I see a few players who might have the details we seek.
We shall get to the bottom of it one way or the other.

Posted by: Jason La Canfora | July 23, 2007 01:07 PM


Could you also find out if it was James Westphall or Dr Kenneth Noisewater that was shot?

Posted by: etrod | July 23, 2007 1:25 PM | Report abuse


welcome back. Cooley is the 2nd option on this offense, i see he and moss catching 70+ if lloyd and randel el can each get 40 or so thats enough. this offense spreads it around , reason its hard to stop.

Posted by: Old School | July 23, 2007 1:25 PM | Report abuse

Still no word on Bethesdagate? dealer must have hit it on the head.

Posted by: Anonymous | July 23, 2007 1:31 PM | Report abuse

I agree with Old School.

2 Wide receiver threat: Moss and Cooley.

I agree with JLa on his thoughts as well especially where Thrash is concerned. Might as well use him as the possession receiver. Espy? He needs to step up right now in this camp because silly Snyder spent a lot on LLoyd and Randel El. But ... they do have Blaylock et al. I expect the running backs will be used extensively as receivers. It'll be enough if they don't get too fancy.

Posted by: periculum | July 23, 2007 1:39 PM | Report abuse

Rumor has it that the Jets may release Pete Kendell. Do you think the skins might go after this guy? Or are we comfy with Todd Wade and the rest of the bench here?

Posted by: SkinzfaninNYC | July 23, 2007 1:42 PM | Report abuse

If we have the Moss of 2 years ago the WR's will be fine. If he is having his hammy/hemmy problems it could be a tough year in the passing game. All we need is the 40 catch neighborhood for both ARE and #85. He better step his game up.

SkinsNYC - where are you hearing that Kendall may be released? I know he was having money issues earlier as he wanted to get paid after seeing the guard money flying around. I'd feel a hell of a lot more comfortable with someone with game experience that actually plays the position.

Posted by: cdubb | July 23, 2007 1:53 PM | Report abuse

I think one of the problems last year for LLoyd was the inability of the offense to spread the ball around. It is hard for a man to catch the ball if it is not thrown to him. Time and Time again it would seem like Brunell would get rushed, panic and throw the ball to Moss...often, Only when Campbell came in last year did I see the ball being spread out more. You are right about Espy. I seen him play in the Ravens/Redskins scrimmage last year. The guy has got talent.

Posted by: Anonymous | July 23, 2007 2:10 PM | Report abuse

Hello people, its been awhile.

I worry about our D-line. The receivers not so much. I think they will be better when they actually have the ball thrown their way this year as opposed to the constant barrage of screen plays thrown last year. In the end until the year starts, we wont know any better than the next guy.

I used to think preseasons were kind of pointless until last years. After watching the way we played in preseason I had a bad feeling about the year ahead. I will be watching and hoping for a better showing this year. So glad football is back.

Posted by: gatorskinz2000 | July 23, 2007 2:20 PM | Report abuse

Clearly, Lloyd and ARE haven't performed as well as we would have liked. But it just isn't fair to assume that they won't find a productive place on the 2007 offense.

It's also wrong to assume that you can take a star player out of a system they're familiar with and that they will immediately be the same high impact player on a new team in a new system.

They have the physical gifts. They need to become part of the team and part of the system.

I for one, won't heap more coals on their heads, until they've been given a fair chance. Let's wait and see.

Posted by: Stumped | July 23, 2007 2:25 PM | Report abuse

Pete Kendall would be a perfect fit with the Redskins...He's looking for more money...

Posted by: Rob | July 23, 2007 2:35 PM | Report abuse

I don't see this team dominating anyone other than the bottom-dwellers.

Training camp and the pre-season should allow them to work out the systemic problems. There is more depth this year, so a few injuries should not be as catastrophic (fingers-crossed).

This year the coaches should be able to make more adjustments to what's happening on the field. Their hands were tied last year.

Translation: more wins, fewer missed opportunities.

Posted by: Stumped | July 23, 2007 2:37 PM | Report abuse

Randle El seemed pretty pumped about J.C. being the QB now.

Posted by: Cliff Huxtable | July 23, 2007 2:48 PM | Report abuse

Lisa, near the end of the previous thread, JaLa said he though the Springs' heir might be named Steve. I'm wondering about Rocky McIntosh's child's name ... Pebbly?

I know that teams are announcing signings of first and second rounders now (and given how Grilliams doesn't start rookies until a few weeks into the season, I'm not too worried about the Contusion), and I'm pleased that there seems to be progress with Cooley, but the guy I really want to hear about is Sean Taylor.

Posted by: dcsween | July 23, 2007 2:56 PM | Report abuse

Definitely agree with you on the WR issue, Stumped. There were several contributing factors to the 2006 disaster.

1) The introduction of Big Al's 700 lb. playbook, which required everyone to learn a system that none had played before.

2) The lack of chemistry with the Skins' QBs, since ARE and BLloyd were with other teams in 2005.

3) Brunell's secret shoulder injury, which prevented him from throwing reliably past the first down markers.

4) The change to Jason Campbell as QB, with all of the previously-noted issues regarding that move. (Campbell not really coached up while sitting on the bench for a year and a half.)

Any one of those factors would have had a negative effect on new receivers coming to the team in 2006. To have all of them in play in one season, and most of them at the same time, was a recipe for glaring offensive breakdowns.

In 2007, there should be significant familiarity with the playbook (where players can act rather than think), chemistry between the QB and the receivers, and a QB who can actually throw the ball downfield, reliably and accurately. If the right pieces are in place and the pass-blocking is effective, the 2007 offense should be unpredictable and difficult to stop.

ARE and BLloyd should play key roles, if they are what the coaches thought they were when those free agent deals were signed.

Posted by: Otter | July 23, 2007 2:56 PM | Report abuse

Having a quarterback that can get the ball deep will have a major impact on the receiving corps. With the opposing defences not being able to sit on the dink and dunk screens, Randle El and #85 should have a lot more room to manuvere. They should each have better seasons then last year (not hard to accoplish). A receiver with height would be nice, but I think the receivers, including Cooley, are at least average, and not a major concern.

Posted by: VTMatt | July 23, 2007 2:58 PM | Report abuse

Posted by: etrod | July 23, 2007 3:05 PM | Report abuse

This just in: the polyps in President Bush's colon are benign.

Film at 11.

Posted by: Breaking news... Breaking news... | July 23, 2007 3:05 PM | Report abuse

"I don't see this team dominating anyone other than the bottom-dwellers."

- Posted by: Stumped | July 23, 2007 02:37 PM

Agreed, but that is how it should be in the NFL. Everybody on every team's roster is a PROFESSIONAL athlete and the line between worst/first is much, much thinner than anyone things. Games where one team dominates the other are just less fun to watch (with the exception of watching the Skins dominate anybody in the NFC East). Big plays are always great to watch (when its a Skins play), but its the nail biters that make the win so much sweeter.

Posted by: dcsween | July 23, 2007 3:05 PM | Report abuse

yep. I believe it.

More importantly, they believe it!
That's what will make the difference.

Our opponents will have to bring their A game this year.

Posted by: Stumped | July 23, 2007 3:06 PM | Report abuse

Forget about Kendall. The Skins don't have cap room to sign any player looking for a big money contract.

Vet minimum offer to McCardell? No cap room.

No big FA defensive line signings? No cap room.

Read my lips: No Cap Room.

With the small amount of cap room available ($2-3 million) and possibly a little more if the Skins cut Wynn and Collins (about $2 million, combined), maybe they can get Cooley signed to an extension while he is still presumably affordable.

While it may not be exactly the cap hell that so many predicted, the current situation might well be described as cap prison. More or less, the Skins are locked into the players they have right now.

Posted by: Otter | July 23, 2007 3:08 PM | Report abuse

Props to etrod on the mention of James Westphall and Dr. Kenneth Noisewater. Congrats to the Sweens!

Posted by: Cindy | July 23, 2007 3:10 PM | Report abuse

Right on! Thats why you gotta play the games. We'll be hanging on every play.

What stinks is knowing 5 or 6 games in that your team doesn't have a chance (it doesn't matter what the reasons are).

Posted by: Stumped | July 23, 2007 3:15 PM | Report abuse

Oh, and Jasno reports that the pub crawl was a bust. No one showed.

Posted by: Cindy | July 23, 2007 3:16 PM | Report abuse

Otter, "cap prison" -- the silver lining of having so few draft picks to get signed?

Posted by: dcsween | July 23, 2007 3:20 PM | Report abuse

Jasno (as he tears the cloth of his shirt) - "Maryland Bloggers - you're dead to me!"

Posted by: Anonymous | July 23, 2007 3:21 PM | Report abuse

Well I'm glad I was on vacation if everyone was a no-show! Any plans for next one yet?

Posted by: Redcoat | July 23, 2007 3:30 PM | Report abuse


The Potomac is wide and deep, but I never would have guessed it would come to that.


Posted by: Stumped | July 23, 2007 3:32 PM | Report abuse

DC -

The rookie allotment for the cap was something around $3.3 million. I am sure that what hasn't been spent yet will all be going to Landry.

I'm guessing that Landry's comtract will be something like 5 yrs/$25 million/$14 million guaranteed (option to restructure and extend after 3 years). First year cap hit would be around $3.1 million. (Pro-rated signing bonus + minimum salary for years #1-3, with roster bonuses beginning in year 2.)

Posted by: Otter | July 23, 2007 3:32 PM | Report abuse

Apropos of nothing. If you can beg, borrow or steal tickets to see The Police in Baltimore in a couple of weeks, do so. Mrs Redcoat and I saw them at Hershey Park last week and they were better than superb.

We now return you to your normal programming.

Posted by: Redcoat | July 23, 2007 3:33 PM | Report abuse

Redcoat, heard the same thing about The Police at Bonaroo.

Otter, thx. Sounds like the beneficiary of the silver lining of very few draft picks is likely to be Landry himself. That, in fact, troubles me, esp. the prospect that Landry might APPEAR to be making more than Sean Taylor at any point. Love Cooley, but need Reaper (actually, what I NEED is more cowbell, but I disgress).

Posted by: dcsween | July 23, 2007 3:46 PM | Report abuse

The NFL has a dogfighting scandal brewing.

Baseball has the HGH/steroids controversy.

The NBA has a ref betting on games.

Cycling has blood doping and other exotic drug issues.

What will be the next scandal in a major sports league?

(I'm just killing time while waiting for a 4:00 meeting, and inflating the blog post count.)

Posted by: Otter | July 23, 2007 3:48 PM | Report abuse

I would think Cooley should be the priority over Taylor just based on the fact this is the last year of his deal. ST still has years left and if you choose to believe his interviews after he reported for minicamp the contract is not an issue. Hopefully the cap number will jump a good amount so that both players can have deals done - Cooley soon and Reaper next offseason.

Posted by: cdubb | July 23, 2007 3:56 PM | Report abuse

am i getting cut o wise one

Posted by: Say IT AINT SO ADE JIMOH | July 23, 2007 3:59 PM | Report abuse

new post.

Posted by: Stumped | July 23, 2007 4:00 PM | Report abuse

Otter, has been pumping the dog fighting thing since forever. This weekend, they laid into Dorsey Levins who apparently owns a kennel of scary dogs (not pit bulls, but stuff like German Shepards, Rottweilers, and Prima Canarias (sp?)). Among the 'satisfied celebs' on Levins' website is Vick himself. Not sure of BIG scary dogs attract the same crowd as pit bull fighting fans, but it occurred to me that T.J. Duckett also had two of those monster huge scary dogs (the Canarias ones). Last year, two of those Canarias dogs attacked and killed some lady in California.

... Also killing time and inflating the blog post count to make up for my recent default.

Posted by: dcsween | July 23, 2007 4:00 PM | Report abuse

Stumped, I don't think the Kevin Mitchell thread is a new one (just one that no one is posting on out of respect).

Posted by: dcsween | July 23, 2007 4:10 PM | Report abuse

This just in: the polyps in President Bush's colon are benign.

Posted by: Breaking news... Breaking news... | July 23, 2007 03:05 PM

Any word if they found his brain while they were up there?

Posted by: 4-12 | July 23, 2007 4:13 PM | Report abuse


With $nyder starting his forays into the screen entertainment industry I truly believe deep in my heart that it is only a matter of time before The Dan and Vince McMahon team up for something...or maybe a reality TV series "Dan & Don" chronicling the relationship between Snyder and Donald Trump living in a studio flat together in a real trendy part of Vancouver or something...

Posted by: pfunk | July 23, 2007 4:15 PM | Report abuse

...and SJK for the visual.

Posted by: 4-12 | July 23, 2007 4:17 PM | Report abuse

dcsween- Good to see you again. Congrats on baby girl sween #3.

Posted by: 4-12 | July 23, 2007 4:19 PM | Report abuse

The receiveing corps will be fine barrin's the running game that will be critical. I don't have a problem with the Skins not signing any big time free agent receivers. We could use a big receiver, but if it ain't Calvin Johnson, I don't want him. One thing puzzles me, why is everyone clamoring for a big time free agent lineman, when it seems like the Skins want to develop and show confidence in who they have...Isn't that what we want them to do???? Let's make up our minds.

Posted by: sicwidit | July 23, 2007 4:31 PM | Report abuse

4-12, good to be seen! I love this time of year, esp. because the Skins are UNDEFEATED!

Scroll to the bottom to see ANOTHER cowardly prediction about the NFC East.
That said, you gotta love the grind that is the NFC East. We work for our supper in this division.

Posted by: dcsween | July 23, 2007 4:33 PM | Report abuse

So who will be the first rookie to get taped to a goal post? Carson's little brother?

Posted by: skinswest | July 23, 2007 4:35 PM | Report abuse

All 4 NFC East teams at 7-9?! Way to go out on a limb there

Posted by: 4-12 | July 23, 2007 4:40 PM | Report abuse

skinswest- I say tape Cooley to the goalpost if he wears those shorts that show his (SJK)'s again.

Posted by: 4-12 | July 23, 2007 4:43 PM | Report abuse

two quick catch up questions:
1. was it ever determined whether Old School and Diesel are the same person? and
2. do I have to type "SJK" after the long venerated blogterm "panties"?

Posted by: dcsween | July 23, 2007 4:56 PM | Report abuse

This is some serious $$$ for a safety.

Posted by: 4-12 | July 23, 2007 5:13 PM | Report abuse

And hasn't Polamalu had about a zillion concussions?

Posted by: dcsween | July 23, 2007 5:19 PM | Report abuse

pumping the blogpostcount on safeties ... Skins have 7 on the roster ... Bears (new home of Archibingus) have 9 ...

Posted by: dcsween | July 23, 2007 5:23 PM | Report abuse

Personally, I liked Cooley's shorts....

Posted by: Lisa | July 23, 2007 5:29 PM | Report abuse

Cross blogification ... featuring Cooley's shorts and Andre "YOU are what's for dinner" Carter.

Posted by: dcsween | July 23, 2007 5:33 PM | Report abuse

Whats it matter, we are going to blow anyway

Posted by: Anonymous | July 23, 2007 6:13 PM | Report abuse

Brilliant analysis anon. Come up with that all by yourself?

Posted by: 4-12 | July 23, 2007 6:42 PM | Report abuse

ComcastSportsNet just reported Vick will be taking a leave of absence....

Posted by: Lisa | July 23, 2007 6:49 PM | Report abuse

At leat the prediction had us winning the division at 7-9, who was the last team to do that????

Posted by: 35332 | July 23, 2007 7:26 PM | Report abuse

I can't wait to get some real football going again! Looking forward to another season of camp reports, JLC!

Posted by: | July 23, 2007 7:30 PM | Report abuse

not sure if this is accurate. i recall 8-8 teams getting in a few times but can't on a 7-9.

During the strike-shortened 1982 season only nine regular season games were played, and a modified playoff format was instituted. Divisional play was ignored (there were some cases where division rivals had both games wiped out by the strike), and the top eight teams from each conference (based on W-L-T record) were advanced to the playoffs. This was the only year that teams with losing records qualified for the playoffs, the 4-5 Cleveland Browns and the 4-5 Detroit Lions. [17]

Posted by: cdubb | July 23, 2007 7:37 PM | Report abuse

Isn't it great! Football is upon us! I love baseball but there is just nothing happening on that front (it is July).

I think we'll be fine at receiver. I would have thought they would have used Thrash more last year as the possession receiver. I expect that Espy will get his chance and make the team. That'll be a GREAT pickup for us last year.

I still worry about the D. Dline in particular. We haven't changed anything, have we? Not a chance they'll stay healthy the entire year. And if DGriff goes down, we're toast. Last year we had the safeties making too many tackles and the LB's were no where to be seen against the run. Alot of that rests on the Dline not being able to occupy blockers, a roll that fell then to the (playing out of position) LB's. We have upgraded at LB but he's gonna have a lot of lineman having free shots at him. Hope he's (LF) up to it. And if we can't get to the passer with our front 4 (and we won't), our DB's are going to be left out to dry again.

But at least we don't have a losing record now!

Posted by: CaroCanesFan | July 23, 2007 8:11 PM | Report abuse

1. was it ever determined whether Old School and Diesel are the same person? and
2. do I have to type "SJK" after the long venerated blogterm "panties"?

Posted by: dcsween | July 23, 2007 04:56 PM

No, Diesel and Old School are not the same person. Diesel used some other names, like "70 chip" or some such. And maybe another name as well.

Old School is just Old School, but at one point, there were two different people using that name.

Posted by: Otter | July 23, 2007 8:15 PM | Report abuse

"Redskins Legacy," a history of the Redskins is on Comcast Sportsnet right now.

Posted by: JustMe | July 23, 2007 8:43 PM | Report abuse

Goodell orders Vick not to report to camp wire reports

NEW YORK (July 23, 2007) -- Commissioner Roger Goodell has ordered Michael Vick of the Atlanta Falcons not to report to the team's training camp pending the completion of an NFL review of his recent indictment by a federal grand jury in Richmond, Va., for allegedly participating in an interstate dog-fighting enterprise.

Commissioner Goodell informed Vick that the review would be completed as soon as possible and that Vick's full cooperation is expected.

In a letter to Vick today, Commissioner Goodell said: "While it is for the criminal justice system to determine your guilt or innocence, it is my responsibility as commissioner of the National Football League to determine whether your conduct, even if not criminal, nonetheless violated league policies, including the Personal Conduct Policy."

Vick will not forfeit his preseason pay during his excused absence from training camp.

Commissioner Goodell also directed the Falcons today to withhold any contemplated team discipline regarding the Vick matter until the NFL review is completed.

Posted by: 35332 | July 23, 2007 8:50 PM | Report abuse

"Eagles may go with Australian rules football star as punter?
The Eagles' 2007 training camp begins on Friday, when rookies and selected veterans report to Lehigh University. The next few weeks will feature several young players -- including former Olympic skier Jeremy Bloom -- fighting for a foothold in the NFL, and at least one old player -- former Australian rules football star Saverio Rocca -- taking a stab at a second career. Rocca's attempting to dislodge four-year veteran Dirk Johnson from the starting punter position less than a year after Johnson signed a long-term contract extension. The incumbent's strength is his consistency. Johnson's net average of 34.8 yards, though not among the league leaders, was the highest for an Eagles punter since 1976. During Philadelphia's minicamps, Rocca was often marvelous but occasionally miserable, peppering a barrage of 50-60-yard punts with the odd shank. As a former footballer accustomed to chaotic pressure from all directions, Rocca is not likely to wilt under a frontal assault, but he will have to learn to punt with helmet and pads. He'll also need to show the directional and pooch punting skills that Johnson has excelled at. -- Courier-Post


Posted by: 4th | July 23, 2007 9:07 PM | Report abuse

Diesel is Old School is 70 Chip.


Posted by: 4th | July 23, 2007 9:08 PM | Report abuse

"Brilliant analysis anon. Come up with that all by yourself?"

I came up with that after watching us blow for the last 16 years, minus those 2 fluke seasons when we were where in the playoffs

Posted by: Anonymous | July 23, 2007 9:13 PM | Report abuse

Smoot video on

Posted by: 35332 | July 23, 2007 11:04 PM | Report abuse

Anybody who read the How Bry article on Marcus Washington think that gives new meaning to the inscrutible Gibbs-isms last year, on the order of "our guys are going through a lot and I can't think of a better group of guys I'd rather go through it with"?

Posted by: Anonymous | July 23, 2007 11:23 PM | Report abuse

WTF?! No Crickets. No Nate. No nothing overnight.

Posted by: 4-12 | July 24, 2007 5:09 AM | Report abuse

And no SJK for WTF either. Teething baby means no sleep. Ugh!

Posted by: 4-12 | July 24, 2007 5:14 AM | Report abuse

Dads of little 'Skins fans...any home remedies for the baby other than baby tylenol?

Posted by: 4-12 | July 24, 2007 5:37 AM | Report abuse

I might try whiskey...for me.

Posted by: 4-12 | July 24, 2007 5:47 AM | Report abuse


Posted by: 4-12 | July 24, 2007 6:03 AM | Report abuse

Oragel (sp?) for teething babies. They just need a little.

It works excrllent!

Also. a teething ring that has liquid in it so you can freeze it........

Posted by: 4th via Home Floor | July 24, 2007 6:13 AM | Report abuse

thanks 4th. Forgot to say we were using that orajel stuff too. good call on the teething ring thing. Wife put it in the freezer an hour ago. Will try that next.

Posted by: 4-12 | July 24, 2007 6:20 AM | Report abuse

I figured that wasn't a 4th Floor family remedy held for many centuries :-)

Posted by: 4th | July 24, 2007 6:30 AM | Report abuse

Ron and Shawn Springs on DC101 this am around 7... Lisa, where you at?

Posted by: Zebra | July 24, 2007 6:33 AM | Report abuse


Send more insider nuggets. Find out why Hollenbach was released. Figure out who looks better so far, Bramlet or Palmer.

Ask Grilliams if he would consider taking 8 games of Tank Johnson...

Posted by: DTC | July 24, 2007 6:35 AM | Report abuse

Take credit for it anyway, 4th.

Sucks (SJK) when they cry and can't tell you what's bothering them.

Posted by: 4-12 | July 24, 2007 6:36 AM | Report abuse

4-12, there are these numbing sticks, think q-tip with pink liquid in the middle... you crack one end, it drains into the q-tip side and apply.

It is a good quick fix where as the tylenol will take a while. They might even be made by orajel, but I think the application is more on spot... for night time, give tylenol before night bottle, and then numbing sticks right after... but only if the little one goes down right after night bottle.

Posted by: Zebra | July 24, 2007 6:41 AM | Report abuse

Also 4-12, my son never liked the teething ring... so we froze a wet wash cloth (not rock hard, keep it rung out so no ice forms), put it in a ziplock b/c the kid will drink the water as it melts in the mouth.

We have actually found that many unconventional things work, keep changing it up since the newness and intrigue of a new item will do as much to sooth as will the actual functionality.

Posted by: Zebra | July 24, 2007 6:45 AM | Report abuse

Thanks Zebra. Any idea what the little numbing sticks are called? Or maybe where you find them at Safeway/Giant? Is it near the tylenol/orajel, etc.
Great ideas, especially since she goes to sleep right after the night bottle.

Posted by: 4-12 | July 24, 2007 6:50 AM | Report abuse

Zebra- Let us know what Ron and Shawn say. Hope that Ron is healing and getting some of his old life back.

Posted by: 4-12 | July 24, 2007 6:56 AM | Report abuse

Ron just talked about his disease... did not pay attention in '91 when they told him he had diabetes... standard fare for what we have heard previously.

Springs said Gibbs grinds in came vs the west coast attitude of Holmgren who did not want to hit too much.

Shawn says we should be fine... says hard division, T.O. not a pr$ck (SJK). Romo will be game planned, but he is a good player.

Studs in the secondary, one of the best in the league. 11 years, and carlos is the lowest pick out of the 4 starters.

He has to see what we look like in camp to know how good we are.?

Landry is a man among boys, not signed by friday. Whos fault, springs says it could be the organization since he is the athlete.

His name will not suface in Vick case. Good friend, It surprises him, Vick due his fair process, but if guilty, he is in a world of trouble.

Goddell did a good thing, distraction to team and Vick. When indicted by feds, good to take time, it is a serious deal, supercedes football.

Believes that any referee indiscretion would most likely need more than just one ref on the take. Horrible black eye for the NBA.

Does not know PacMan.

Posted by: Zebra | July 24, 2007 7:32 AM | Report abuse

Thanks, Zebra! I missed Shawn (and Ron) on the radio but they are scheduled to be on Washington Post Live today. Of course, I will probably be at work.

Posted by: Lisa | July 24, 2007 7:38 AM | Report abuse

Thanks for the recap Zebra.

Posted by: 4-12 | July 24, 2007 7:39 AM | Report abuse

Baby Orajel teething swabs...Definately in the isle

Posted by: Zebra | July 24, 2007 7:41 AM | Report abuse

Found them on the googles Zebra. Thank you! Any chance you'll throw a flag on teething?

Posted by: 4-12 | July 24, 2007 7:47 AM | Report abuse

Hell Yeah;

Flag on the play, False start for any parent who thinks they know real teething before molars come in.

You dont know teething until they start cutting those molars. Most teeth 'erupt' (great word) whole tooth. Molars have many pointy little spires that come out at different times. Nice stuff

Posted by: Zebra | July 24, 2007 7:53 AM | Report abuse

Damn (SJK). This is just a measly little false start? I don't want to imagine the personal foul when the molars come in.

Posted by: 4-12 | July 24, 2007 7:58 AM | Report abuse

F Tank Johnson. He's a thug. Let him work at Burger King.

Posted by: Anonymous | July 24, 2007 8:23 AM | Report abuse

Elliott interviewed C. Cooley on DC101.1 the other day. Cooley is engaged, and well it seemed F. Smoot would be a natural to plan the bachelor party. But it's time to talk football. C. Cooley said that Campbell has worked harder than anybody in the off-season, putting in a number of 10 hour days, and it SHOWS! He said he and the WR's are VERY excited to play with J. Campbell this year. I for one can't wait to see Campbell in action this year, and I like that the WR's have been outspoken about his work ethic, as the WR's were very hush hush about Brunell in interviews. You can see a sparkle in the eyes of Randle El, Cooley, and Moss when they hear Campbell's name. A franchise QB would be something this team hasn't seen in decades!!

Posted by: Max | July 24, 2007 8:43 AM | Report abuse

Thanks Max;

I missed last week due to vacation and eitmonline did not have a stream of it.

Posted by: Zebra | July 24, 2007 8:50 AM | Report abuse

wow, if Campbell studies like BBM, then maybe.........

I'm not saying.......

Posted by: the don | July 24, 2007 9:34 AM | Report abuse

........I'm just saying

Posted by: the don | July 24, 2007 9:35 AM | Report abuse

I divided that up cause I know you guys are trying to hit 100k soon.

Posted by: the don | July 24, 2007 9:36 AM | Report abuse

You guys want 100,000 post. Well how long will it take for the skins to score 100 points? I say week 3.

Posted by: the don | July 24, 2007 9:38 AM | Report abuse

BBM (Big Brother Manning)

For those that are not aware. And if it really means something else...


Posted by: the don | July 24, 2007 9:39 AM | Report abuse

Dang don, week 3?

Thats 33 points per game avg... We may have a potent offense, but I really believe we will not win like the colts in a shootout. We will need to play tight defensive games to win a lot of games this year.

But stranger things have happened. I say week 5. Thats a nice 21 point average. If we had that the last two years, we would have been better than 8-8

Posted by: Zebra | July 24, 2007 9:45 AM | Report abuse

What can I say? I like to think big.

Posted by: the don | July 24, 2007 10:21 AM | Report abuse

I'll meet you have way and say week 4. That's definitely doable.

Posted by: the don | July 24, 2007 10:23 AM | Report abuse

If we have one big game... which should be the first one!

Arguing with vaherder on the other post about K Mitchell. I think we ar ethe only two left here.

Posted by: Zebra | July 24, 2007 10:44 AM | Report abuse

Week 4 is a bye....

Posted by: 4th | July 24, 2007 10:47 AM | Report abuse

I guess I should have checked the schedule.

.......Just a few more weeks.

Posted by: the don | July 24, 2007 10:54 AM | Report abuse

D-Line Rank

26. Washington (10)

The Redskins had the worst pass rush in all of the NFL a year ago. Based on last year's play alone, the Redskins maybe deserve to be last. Still, these players have more talent. Cornelius Griffin is a fine player at defensive tackle, but he has never matched the level he displayed in 2004. Andre Carter, despite a sizable contract, is merely an adequate defensive end. Phillip Daniels is now 34 years old and no longer a productive player. The one hope for the unit is the continued development of Kedric Golston, who was impressive at times as a rookie. Still, this is an aging unit whose best days are behind them.

Posted by: Pasifikawv | July 24, 2007 11:09 AM | Report abuse

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