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Kendall, K. Campbell, Washington Updates

I spoke briefly with Pete Kendall and he didn't have much to say about his current situation other than, "I feel good and I'm working out every day." He has not drawn interest on the open market and has not received a firm offer from the Skins, according to sources. Kendall, who would like to return, is willing to come in as someone who is fighting for (but not assured of) a starting job, according to a source. The Skins could use help at guard, but there has been no movement. The team is shopping one-year minimum deals for the most part.

Reserve linebacker Khary Campbell, a special teams captain, was given a veteran minimum offer early in free agency, but there has not been any recent movement between the sides. Campbell said he, too, is working out on his own. This is another spot at which the Skins could use reinforcements. And they could well end up drafting a linebacker.

Marcus Washington was still hoping to get offers as of late last week, but there has been no real progress. A few weeks back, the Skins offered him a low-level deal that he was not inclinced to take. Perhaps that will change as more time elapses.

By Jason La Canfora  |  March 31, 2009; 12:44 PM ET
 
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If Kendall's working out every day, that's more than the did last season.

Posted by: talent_evaluator | March 31, 2009 12:52 PM | Report abuse

I wonder if Kendall takes Wendesdays off when he works out at home...

Posted by: RedSkinHead | March 31, 2009 12:53 PM | Report abuse

"Thats all fine and dandy but the results wernt there. The two biggest deficiencies the skins D had last year were sacks and turnovers. Landry did not make an impact in the turnover margin, he could mak an impact in the amount of sacks we get and would most likely end up with creating fumbles. You can either have a luxury that is not working or you can do what everyone else does and get better results.

Posted by: Stu27"

I don't think you're getting what I'm saying. Playing Landry in the blitzing, in-the-box role requires a single-deep safety. The only player that's proven to be able to do this is Landry himself. If you went to a more "traditional" defense, then Landry would still be playing off the ball, only he'd be paired with another safety back there. He can't blitz or play in the box unless the other guy he's paired with can handle manning the entire "center-field" zone by himself.

I'd love to get Landry back to his more natural position. But unless Moore can prove to handle the single-deep slot, that's not going to happen. Landry was drafted with Sean Taylor in mind. Without ST, Landry can't do what he was envisioned for. ST's prior role, and Landry's current role, is far more critical to the success of the defense.

Posted by: psps23

Posted by: psps23 | March 31, 2009 12:55 PM | Report abuse

Where do they come off with these attitudes? "I want to be a starter." "I want a better deal."

I feel like these three guys were just knocked out of the competition for "American Idol." Then, someone says, "Wait, we'll let you come back next week." And instead of being grateful they're trying to cut a deal -- "I'll only come back if you let me sing Mo Town." "You have to let me go third, and not after that Adam guy." "When the judges speak, Simon has to agree to say something nice or not to say anything at all."

Posted by: talent_evaluator | March 31, 2009 1:00 PM | Report abuse

Washington is not going to get any offers from other teams, I know Peri. thinks he's the best LB in the league when healthy but he is not healthy very much.

He will sign here if he wants to play, if not he will probably retire.

Peri. we let an old hurt LB go, and an old hurt CB go. We then got the best DT in football and somehow you see that as a bad thing.

Posted by: Flounder21 | March 31, 2009 1:03 PM | Report abuse

te, agreed. The fact that no other offers have materialized, doesn't seem to faze these guys....you'd think it would open their eye's......

Posted by: BeantownGreg | March 31, 2009 1:05 PM | Report abuse

Khary C. is a special teams guy he will sign for vet min. or he can walk. I don't see teams knocking down any of these guys doors, they better take what they can get.

Posted by: Flounder21 | March 31, 2009 1:06 PM | Report abuse

There is nothing wrong with these players looking to do a little better financially. I wish them the best of luck but I hope that they have to come crawling back to accept our lowball offers.

Posted by: KingJoffeJoffer | March 31, 2009 1:06 PM | Report abuse

I don't think you're getting what I'm saying. Playing Landry in the blitzing, in-the-box role requires a single-deep safety. The only player that's proven to be able to do this is Landry himself. If you went to a more "traditional" defense, then Landry would still be playing off the ball, only he'd be paired with another safety back there. He can't blitz or play in the box unless the other guy he's paired with can handle manning the entire "center-field" zone by himself.
PSP


No no I get. Im saying that there has to be better options, Other teams use a corner to make up for the zone vacated by a blitzing saftey, that could be done apparently blache uses crative defenses. Moore could have just as much an impact as Landry did except he would make more mistakes of which landry made very few. Im saying like many other that the potential for Landry at the line outwieghs the "luxury" of having him play a position he is not suited for. You dont have to have a single High safety in fact few teams actually run it. Playing either a Landy Moore, or Landry Horton saftey sets you can disguise whos blitzing or whos dropping back, we did blitz landry a few times but far to infrequently. I just believe that the potential for him playing up front is to large to be ignored even if it comes at the price of dropping a position that no one on our staff can truly excel at and going to a more traditional safties set.

Posted by: Stu27 | March 31, 2009 1:07 PM | Report abuse

Khary, Pete, and Marcus need to talk to Phillip Daniels. He too balked at coming back for the vet min.....

Posted by: BeantownGreg | March 31, 2009 1:08 PM | Report abuse

PSP - It was simplicity all season long. That's how Blatche did it. Good schemes. Maybe your and my meaning are different.

I thought they played primarily 3 CBs and 1 S in Philly beacuse they had all 4 CBs healthy and Horton was injured that game.

Posted by: 4thFloor | March 31, 2009 1:15 PM | Report abuse

Khary, Pete, and Marcus need to talk to Phillip Daniels. He too balked at coming back for the vet min.....

Posted by: BeantownGreg | March 31, 2009 1:08 PM

They should talk to Blatche. He opeed Daniels eyes to see all the benefits of coming back, and to this team........

Posted by: 4thFloor | March 31, 2009 1:21 PM | Report abuse

Marcus Washington plays a position where rookie draft picks CAN come in and contribute - he isn't going to get a better than minimum deal coming off two plus years of injuries at age 32.

Time to smell the coffee.

Posted by: leopard09 | March 31, 2009 1:21 PM | Report abuse

Going back to the last post ... Chris Clemons of Clemson appears to have close to Darrell Green speed afoot ... in point of fact, in this draft safeties appear to faster a foot than the corners.

A "hybrid" corner/safety might make sense for this defense.

Posted by: periculum | March 31, 2009 1:25 PM | Report abuse

The update is there is no update. Hope they all pull a daniels.

Posted by: AdamCr | March 31, 2009 1:27 PM | Report abuse

"Marcus Washington plays a position where rookie draft picks CAN come in and contribute - he isn't going to get a better than minimum deal coming off two plus years of injuries at age 32.

Time to smell the coffee.

Posted by: leopard09 | March 31, 2009"

The difference a linebacker (and corner like Shawn Springs) like MWash can make was clearly shown in the last Philadelphia game where the defense completely overwhelmed and intimidated the Eagles. Jason Taylor played "spy" on Westbrook the entire game effectively shutting him completely down.

Then the rest of the defense led by MWash and Springs just completely manhandled the Eagles.

Posted by: periculum | March 31, 2009 1:29 PM | Report abuse

"A "hybrid" corner/safety might make sense for this defense."

I like that idea. Landry seems to play a hybrid S/LB role from time to time as well. That flexibility would be a huge bonus.

Speed kills.

Posted by: edvar | March 31, 2009 1:30 PM | Report abuse

DO EXPERTS KNOW WHAT'S THEY'RE TALKING ABOUT?

Seemed like a fit topic for Draft Expert Season:

From a Nicholas Kristof column in the NYT:

"But do experts actually get it right themselves?

The expert on experts is Philip Tetlock, a professor at the University of California, Berkeley. His 2005 book, “Expert Political Judgment,” is based on two decades of tracking some 82,000 predictions by 284 experts. The experts’ forecasts were tracked both on the subjects of their specialties and on subjects that they knew little about.
The result? The predictions of experts were, on average, only a tiny bit better than random guesses — the equivalent of a chimpanzee throwing darts at a board.
“It made virtually no difference whether participants had doctorates, whether they were economists, political scientists, journalists or historians, whether they had policy experience or access to classified information, or whether they had logged many or few years of experience,” Mr. Tetlock wrote.
Indeed, the only consistent predictor was fame — and it was an inverse relationship. The more famous experts did worse than unknown ones. That had to do with a fault in the media. Talent bookers for television shows and reporters tended to call up experts who provided strong, coherent points of view, who saw things in blacks and whites. People who shouted — like, yes, Jim Cramer! "

Posted by: Samson151 | March 31, 2009 1:32 PM | Report abuse

More from the Kristof column experts:

"Mr. Tetlock called experts such as these the “hedgehogs,” after a famous distinction by the late Sir Isaiah Berlin (my favorite philosopher) between hedgehogs and foxes. Hedgehogs tend to have a focused worldview, an ideological leaning, strong convictions; foxes are more cautious, more centrist, more likely to adjust their views, more pragmatic, more prone to self-doubt, more inclined to see complexity and nuance. And it turns out that while foxes don’t give great sound-bites, they are far more likely to get things right.
This was the distinction that mattered most among the forecasters, not whether they had expertise. Over all, the foxes did significantly better, both in areas they knew well and in areas they didn’t. "

I read that as, the more certain and definite the expert sounds, the less likely his prediction is to come true.

Posted by: Samson151 | March 31, 2009 1:33 PM | Report abuse

I'm asking for a moratorium on responding to peric....that horse is dead, turned to dust, and blown away in the wind.....

Posted by: BeantownGreg | March 31, 2009 1:36 PM | Report abuse

"I thought they played primarily 3 CBs and 1 S in Philly beacuse they had all 4 CBs healthy and Horton was injured that game.

Posted by: 4thFloor"

Nope, Horton was healthy and played quite a bit. I think he played 3 CBs because that was simply his devised gameplan for stopping McNabb/Westbrook (three down linemen, Horton played more in the box as a run-stuffer, Jason Taylor spied Westbrook and was sent on blitzes from all different angles).

Simplicity was how Blache started out. It became far from that as it became evident JT wasn't a traditional LDE and different guys were being shuffled in and out of the lineup. Zone blitzes, safety blitzes, cobra packages, 3 CB - 1 safety packages, a roaming JT, none of that speaks to simplicity from Blache. Although I expect it to dumb back down now that JT is out of the lineup and Daniels/Wynn are back in. I'd expect more of a 4-man rush system with Haynesworth, Carter, and Griffin expecting to inflict damage.

Posted by: psps23 | March 31, 2009 1:38 PM | Report abuse

"Peri. we let an old hurt LB go, and an old hurt CB go. We then got the best DT in football and somehow you see that as a bad thing.

Posted by: Flounder21 | March 31, 2009"

"Bad" is a relative term Flounder. Let's just say I see it as very high risk. Now, if I am the Philadelphia Eagles with 12 draft picks, 2 in the first round and a reasonably good judge of talent in HC Andy Reid ... there is some risk but all things considered it appears to be a good move. Particularly given the Eagles collapse against the Cardinals.

With my team, the Redskins, its different. Coming off a year when the defense finished 4th in the NFL. Yes, they finished 8-8 but that was primarily due to age/injuries along the offensive line not because of age/injuries on the defense.

The depth behind injured players like MWash and Springs on the defensive side were able to do well enough until they could get back in there. You don't fix what ain't broken. That is an engineering dictum from way back.

Okay so you release several key players on defense because it is advantageous to do so relative to the salary cap. The same on the offensive side of the ball with the release of guys like Pete Kendall. All to get one impact player, and a very, very risky one to boot.

He may yet go to jail and be suspended ala Vick.

In the case of this team YOU ONLY HAVE FOUR draft picks, 1 in the first none in the critical second round. You don't have Andy Reid judging talent you have Vinnie Cerrato, he with the framed photo on his desk of the owner's parents. I rather doubt that he would ever take a coach's choice over his own when it is time to pick players. Now, Snidely is a different story. Clearly he can, has, and will override Vinnie. But that will likely happen only in the first round.

After that?

With just five picks to fill in all the holes left when Vinnie decimated the team to sign Haynesworth, and a severely constrained salary cap ... ???

No, Haynesworth was not a good move for this particular team at this particular time. IMHO.

Posted by: periculum | March 31, 2009 1:38 PM | Report abuse

I read that as, the more certain and definite the expert sounds, the less likely his prediction is to come true.


Posted by: Samson151 | March 31, 2009 1:33 PM

Thanks for that. that's what I have been trying to convey to these Hedgehogs up here and their draft mockery........

Posted by: 4thFloor | March 31, 2009 1:40 PM | Report abuse

"I'm asking for a moratorium on responding to peric....that horse is dead, turned to dust, and blown away in the wind.....

Posted by: BeantownGreg | March 31, 2009"

Asking for the same thing for Greg. He reminds me of a broken record way too often.

Posted by: periculum | March 31, 2009 1:43 PM | Report abuse

Haynesworth, Yeah I hate it when my team picks up the best free agent available, especially when its at a position that we have rarely had a dominant player, and especially especially when it is one as critical as the position that the picked up free agent plays.

Posted by: Stu27 | March 31, 2009 1:44 PM | Report abuse

Posted by: 4thFloor | March 31, 2009 1:44 PM | Report abuse

"Where do they come off with these attitudes? 'I want to be a starter.' 'I want a better deal.'

Not saying you are wrong TE, but let's face it, except for Samuels Kendall probably had the best year of all the other linemen in spite of age and injuries. Doesn't say much about the others ... but ... arms-spread-out-wide. They really needed to be drafting OL, DE's and linebackers instead of redundant repeats of the three amigos. The last guy they drafted in the 1st round like that was in the same year when they drafted LaVar Arrington and Chris Samuels. And that was Charley Casserly.

Posted by: periculum | March 31, 2009 1:47 PM | Report abuse

"Posted by: periculum | March 31, 2009 1:45 AM

Dude, you gotta stop using this...there is so much that goes into protecting the QB that it's near impossible to accurately assess who's to blame on any given sack. Sometimes the QB holds the ball too long, sometimes the RB whiffs on a block or blows an assignment...too many variables. O-linemen don't have stats to measure their production, so unless you sat down with Buges and he told you that Rabach sucks, I'll assume that he's a competent and decent option at center this year.

Posted by: brownwood26 | March 31, 2009"

Dude, I believe BUGES did as posted here on RI by Jason. Apparently, he was scathing in his evaluation of the O-line when they did the post season evaluations.

Posted by: periculum | March 31, 2009 1:55 PM | Report abuse

"I'm not saying they should do it, but it will be cheaper to cut Portis next year then have him play.

Cutting Raback next year would clear up nearly 3mil.

I love Fletcher but if he starts to fall apart this year, we can save another 3mil by cutting him next year.

Peri,

The cap will be fine next year there are plenty of moves to be made.

Posted by: Flounder21 | March 31, 2009"

Flound,

In the "sunset" year they will no longer be allowed to defer bonuses. So, if one of those players is released their entire pro-rated bonus is applied to the salary cap. My impression is that this will continue into 2010 without a new agreement with the Player's Association.

I suspect that the cap will be made much, much higher to make the players happy ... but bonus deferment will no longer be permitted.

Of course I could be wrong ... but that is the impression I get when I try to pore through that stuff.

Posted by: periculum | March 31, 2009 1:58 PM | Report abuse

"Wrong again Peri. Jansen will be cut next year at a 2.4mil cap savings.

Posted by: Flounder21 | March 31, 2009"

If they do, according to the "sunset" year rules, his entire pro-rated bonus will be applied to the cap.

Posted by: periculum | March 31, 2009 2:01 PM | Report abuse

Maybe they are planning on trading down in the 1st and getting Alex Mack and a 2nd. I've started to get really high on this guy as a guard this season and eventual replacement for Rabach.

Posted by: uptownjive | March 31, 2009 2:01 PM | Report abuse

Using the periculum model, I'm wondering if we couldn't move Jason Campbell to left tackle, allowing Samuels to move to right tackle and extend his career, while moving Jansen to center and Rabach to safety, allowing Landry to move to center where he could hike the ball to our new QB, Ethan Albright...

Posted by: Samson151 | March 31, 2009 2:04 PM | Report abuse

The Skins can wait until after the draft to sign all those players (Washington, Campbell, and Kendall).

The Skins will not require Washington if they sign a SLB with their 1st round pick. He would be wise to sign before the draft -- that is if they really made him a veteran minimum offer.

Campbell should be replaced as the special teams were terrible at blocking last year and he is less than adequate as a backup WLB. Let a hungry rookie LB take his place.

Kendall could be resigned as a backup C/G, although I'd prefer if the Skins used one of the lower round draft picks on a C/G and just keep him on speed dial. The rookie could be a special teams blocker as well.

Posted by: siris | March 31, 2009 2:04 PM | Report abuse

"Periculum: 22
All others: 19

Periculum wins again. All others lose again.

Posted by: talent_evaluator | March 31, 2009"

C'mon TE most all of the posts were informational cut-and-pastes for your morning reading and consideration.

What's your beef with that?

Posted by: periculum | March 31, 2009 2:04 PM | Report abuse

uptownjive
Do we need to really look for someone to replace a 2nd year guy who has no starting time...

Posted by: alex35332 | March 31, 2009 2:04 PM | Report abuse

Oh wait, I forgot. We cut Rabach because he couldn't cover the deep out. Phil Daniels could extend his career at strong safety...

Posted by: Samson151 | March 31, 2009 2:05 PM | Report abuse

"The Skins will not require Washington if they sign a SLB with their 1st round pick. He would be wise to sign before the draft -- that is if they really made him a veteran minimum offer.

Posted by: siris | March 31, 2009"

There really aren't any linebackers in the first round at pick #13 that would be available and worth using the pick on.

They would have to have 2 or 3 seconds (like last year) that they could use on some of the faster DE's who are small but good against the run and could be converted.

Most of the linebackers after a Curry and Orapko seem to be slow MLB types.

Posted by: periculum | March 31, 2009 2:07 PM | Report abuse

"most all of the posts were informational"

Post of the day...high comedy....

Posted by: BeantownGreg | March 31, 2009 2:09 PM | Report abuse

'Oh wait, I forgot. We cut Rabach because he couldn't cover the deep out. Phil Daniels could extend his career at strong safety...

Posted by: Samson151 | March 31, 2009"

Pretty stupid dude. We are talking about Snidely and Vinnie here. Flounder is right when he states that they get a 2.3 mil savings against the salary cap by releasing the guy before June 1st. They will be right against the wall after the draft.

Do you really believe that Snidely and Vinnie would do something practical that makes sense?

Posted by: periculum | March 31, 2009 2:10 PM | Report abuse

"Post of the day...high comedy....

Posted by: BeantownGreg | March 31, 2009"

Careful Greg ... or the Priest might "channel" Coy Bacon and spew all over you ... :)

Posted by: periculum | March 31, 2009 2:11 PM | Report abuse

"Post of the day...high comedy....

Posted by: BeantownGreg | March 31, 2009"

"Bean boy beaner", can you spell the name of your state without making a mistake?

Posted by: periculum | March 31, 2009 2:14 PM | Report abuse

"Using the periculum model, I'm wondering if we couldn't move Jason Campbell to left tackle, allowing Samuels to move to right tackle and extend his career, while moving Jansen to center and Rabach to safety, allowing Landry to move to center where he could hike the ball to our new QB, Ethan Albright...

Posted by: Samson151 | March 31, 2009"

Using the Samson model we'll bring back X-treme fighter and Karate expert Michael Westbrook at Left defensive end. We'll cut everyone over the age of 30 and take a $60 mil hit against the salary cap. And we'll put Colt Brennan at quarterback.

Posted by: periculum | March 31, 2009 2:17 PM | Report abuse

"Haynesworth, Yeah I hate it when my team picks up the best free agent available, especially when its at a position that we have rarely had a dominant player, and especially especially when it is one as critical as the position that the picked up free agent plays.

Posted by: Stu27 | March 31, 2009"

Yeah, especially if they win even though he doesn't play a single down ... because he has been suspended for leaving the scene of an accident he caused where someone was seriously injured.

Posted by: periculum | March 31, 2009 2:21 PM | Report abuse

These 3 guys should all do better than the vet minimum. The vet minium may be the guarantee part, but incentives can dwarf the vet minimum. For example, Washington is worth a lot more if he remains healthy.

My guess is that all of these guys will be better off waiting until after the draft, since teams will have needs that they are not able to address with picks.

Posted by: zcezcest1 | March 31, 2009 2:21 PM | Report abuse

There are plenty of SLBs that will be available in the 1-3 rounds: Curry, Orakpo, Maybin, E. Brown, Crushing, Matthews, Ayers, Sintim, English, C. Brown, etc...

If they trade down, then a good SLB should be available in the lower 1st, 2nd, or 3rd rounds.

Posted by: siris | March 31, 2009 2:22 PM | Report abuse

Posted by: 4thFloor | March 31, 2009 2:30 PM | Report abuse

Perc,

The entire O-line was sub par, if not bad.

Still, I do not believe that cutting Rabach is the solution, nor a good idea. Not unless there is a competent replacement with knowledge of the offensive scheme & tendencies of the guards [thomas/dock]..... which, there isn't? correct me if I'm wrong?

And Jansen will never line up as a TE!

Posted by: matthewvickers | March 31, 2009 2:32 PM | Report abuse

Skins have no true strongside LB and please don't say that H.B. Blades can do the job. The Skins have a huge need at both OLB positions given Rocky's knee problems. MWash has nothing left in the tank and is lucky that he was offered even a chance to come back at the minimum. He's been hurt for 2 years and has had little impact when he's been healthy.

I still see the Skins biggest need being an OT to upgrade the Jansen/Heyer combo and for depth behind Samuels. If Jansen is starting at RT, this team is in a world of hurt and don't expect much improvement from JC.

Posted by: wizfan89 | March 31, 2009 2:37 PM | Report abuse

The Skins will not require Washington if they sign a SLB with their 1st round pick. He would be wise to sign before the draft -- that is if they really made him a veteran minimum offer.

Posted by: siris | March 31, 2009 2:04 PM |

Actually, he may be wise to wait. If he signs a vet min contract, with nothing guaranteed, the Skins hold all the cards. They can cut him at any time until the final roster is set, and at no cost to the Skins.

So, if they draft an LB, then he may just be training camp fodder, cut at the last minute when he can't catch on with another team.

Posted by: talent_evaluator | March 31, 2009 2:37 PM | Report abuse

beep beep

Posted by: BeantownGreg | March 31, 2009 2:38 PM | Report abuse

"Using the Samson model we'll bring back X-treme fighter and Karate expert Michael Westbrook at Left defensive end. We'll cut everyone over the age of 30 and take a $60 mil hit against the salary cap. And we'll put Colt Brennan at quarterback.Posted by: periculum"

Hey!! That's the periculum model!

Credit where credit is due.

Posted by: Samson151 | March 31, 2009 3:36 PM | Report abuse

It'd be nice to get thesse guys back.

Kendall was a late addition when we got him to replace the dock, he could be that guy for some other team this year.

K. Campbell seems undersized to be a legit LB, so probably not a hot commodity, unless someone in the beast gets him just to stick it to us

Posted by: pabrian2003 | March 31, 2009 4:12 PM | Report abuse

I'm thinking we take the best OT, DE, or SLB in the draft.

If we need to cut a minimum vet guy, that shouldn't cost much.

ex: if we get tyson Jackson, they may cut Wynn, buzbee, wilson, jackson, or Daniels

If they sign Wash and draft SLB, bye bye wash

Posted by: pabrian2003 | March 31, 2009 4:21 PM | Report abuse

But the most revealing category were those quarterbacks who finished with a value of 0 or less. Every one of them failed as NFL quarterbacks. Take a look:

Scores of First-Round Quarterbacks, 1997-2008
Group I: Strong likelihood of success
Player School Draft year Score
Matt Leinart USC 2006 64.04
Philip Rivers NC State 2004 48.44
Tim Couch Kentucky 1999 47.64
Alex Smith Utah 2005 44.88
Aaron Rodgers California 2005 40.58
Peyton Manning Tennessee 1998 39.47
Jason Campbell Auburn 2005 38.75
Byron Leftwich Marshall 2003 36.39
Ben Roethlisberger Miami (Ohio) 2004 33.85
Chad Pennington Marshall 2000 33.53
Daunte Culpepper Central Florida 1999 30.00
David Carr Fresno State 2002 23.97
Joe Flacco Delaware 2008 23.92
Eli Manning Ole Miss 2004 23.14
Donovan McNabb Syracuse 1999 21.62
Group II: Hit-or-Miss
Player School Draft year Score
Brady Quinn Notre Dame 2007 18.93
JaMarcus Russell LSU 2007 18.64
Rex Grossman Florida 2003 18.39
Vince Young Texas 2006 18.21
Carson Palmer USC 2003 16.35
Matt Ryan Boston College 2008 9.14
Patrick Ramsey Tulane 2002 9.06
J.P. Losman Tulane 2004 7.86
Jay Cutler Vanderbilt 2006 2.39
Group III: Busts
Player School Draft year Score
Akili Smith Oregon 1999 0.00
Cade McNown UCLA 1999 -6.41
Joey Harrington Oregon 2002 -6.85
Michael Vick Virginia Tech 2001 -11.32
Ryan Leaf Washington St. 1998 -16.92
Jim Druckenmiller Virginia Tech 1997 -20.25
Kyle Boller California 2003 -50.67

Stafford scored a -4.45, putting him in unflattering surroundings to say the least. You never want to be on a list that includes Jim Druckenmiller and Akili Smith. Stafford's career completion percentage of 57.1 percent and his touchdown-interception ratio of 1.55 were primarily responsible for his poor showing. That left him rated well below USC quarterback Mark Sanchez and slightly behind Kansas State's Josh Freeman.

Scores for 2009 Likely First-Round Quarterbacks
Player School Score
Mark Sanchez USC 32.63
Josh Freeman Kansas State 1.94
Matthew Stafford Georgia -4.55

Stafford's numbers were dragged down by a freshman season in which Stafford completed 52.7 percent of his passes and threw 13 interceptions against seven touchdowns.

Posted by: periculum | March 31, 2009 5:45 PM | Report abuse

"Credit where credit is due.

Posted by: Samson151 | March 31, 2009"

Nah never had a man crush on Colt Brennan they way you do dude.

Posted by: periculum | March 31, 2009 5:47 PM | Report abuse

"If they sign Wash and draft SLB, bye bye wash

Posted by: pabrian2003 | March 31, 2009"

If he signs for the Vet minimum with incentives I suspect he would start ... while the rookies learn.

Posted by: periculum | March 31, 2009 5:48 PM | Report abuse

"Nah never had a man crush on Colt Brennan they way you do dude.Posted by: periculum"

What? I think he's Babe Laufenberg II. Career backup.

Oh, I get it. You're being yourself -- making up things and tossing them out as fact.

Posted by: Samson151 | March 31, 2009 5:58 PM | Report abuse

peri

Spent some time checking out your posts.

I'm glad somebody else has stood up to the notion that the skins had to sign Haynesworth when the money he got could've been spread out to a couple of other dudes.

And I'm inclined to think the skins would do well to snag a strongside linebacker type at thirteen if an elite player is availiable: my choice is, and continues to be Rey Mauaulga-USC.

Good posting, bro', the force is strong with you here on the eve of April 1st.

Posted by: MistaMoe | March 31, 2009 10:04 PM | Report abuse

Anyone watch the replay of the 1st Redskins v. Cowboys game this weekend?

J Witten got open a couple of times with M Washington way behind him.

There is no need to sign Washington, but given the fact that Khary "The Other" Campbell plays special teams, he should be signed.

#53 is done in my book.

Draft a slb at 13, give him #55 and the starting job on day one.

Posted by: MistaMoe | March 31, 2009 10:07 PM | Report abuse

wizfan

'...I still see the Skins biggest need being an OT to upgrade the Jansen/Heyer...'


The trouble with all of our thinking is there is evidence the team believes in Stephon Heyer and wants him to start.

And if they believe so, why draft a tackle high just so he sits behind Samuels, Heyer, and Jansen?: that's their thinking, not mine.

We have to hope the team snags a tackle or c/g type with the 3rd round pick if they take a slb with the 13th in the 1st round.

Posted by: MistaMoe | March 31, 2009 10:12 PM | Report abuse

Everyone please read my take about this blog and tell me what you think.

This blog is obviously for the diehard Skins fan but can we please show that we have just a shred of class. Most of you guys cross the line and are flat out disrespectful to these players. Where's the loyalty to guys like Phillip Daniels, Jon Jansen, and even a Pete Kendall?

I think Phillip Daniels is a consummate professional. Fact is he's played his heart out for years. And yes, INJURIES ARE PART OF THE GAME!!! Just because these guys get injured and struggle for a year or two doesn't make them a bum. I am so sick and tired of people labeling solid vets and good character guys as has-beens or bums.

I enjoy reading these threads once in a while because some of you actually have insightful thoughts and interesting views. But seriously, some of you need to grow up and stop slamming NFL players when you don't understand what its like to walk in their shoes.

We are lucky to have Daniels, Jansen, and hopefully Pete Kendall on our team. We will need good veterans to get us to the Super Bowl.

Look at it this way--Everytime you talk about how much these guys suck, you make true Redskins fans look bad and like we have no loyalty.

Can I get some support here?

Posted by: mriles17 | March 31, 2009 10:15 PM | Report abuse

Most of these guys, with K. Campbell being the exception, have already ripped off millions from the Redskins and they think that other clubs are just as "Dumb". NOT! Reality bites, you dweebs! Come back with your tails behind your a$$e$ and play for the salaries that you deserve (vet minimums)!

Posted by: JohnWWW | March 31, 2009 11:14 PM | Report abuse

I read over at the Washington Times that Alex Buzbee has added 30 pounds of muscle since last year. He is up to 275 pounds. He could be a break out stud this year.

Posted by: RedskinJim1 | April 1, 2009 9:37 AM | Report abuse

I read over at the Washington Times that Alex Buzbee has added 30 pounds of muscle since last year. He is up to 275 pounds. He could be a break out stud this year.

Posted by: RedskinJim1 | April 1, 2009 9:37 AM

IS that up today?

Posted by: JLaCanfora | April 1, 2009 10:25 AM | Report abuse

IS that up today?

Posted by: JLaCanfora | April 1, 2009 10:25 AM | Report abuse

Yes, it is their feature story.

Strength coach John Hastings said the 6-foot-3, 275-pounder hadn't missed a single day of the 2008 offseason conditioning program. Buzbee had gained almost 30 pounds since he first signed with the Redskins and was ready to fight for a roster spot at the time of the injury.

Posted by: RedskinJim1 | April 1, 2009 2:38 PM | Report abuse

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