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Kendall Reax/Hello Fred Beasley

Skins have agreed to terms with FB Fred Beasley from what I hear - more on that in a minute.

As for Kendall: In a nutshell, the Redskins overpaid for a 34-year old guard - same ol story there - and have again taken aim at a future year's draft, but that's a vicious cycle that might never end at this point, so let's not even get into it now. I'll put the exact compensation in my story in tomorrow's paper, but it's substantial for a stopgap guy.

But the bottom line is because of their doing - poor drafting in the past, inability to develop a yoing O Lineman, failed experiment trying to bank on Todd Wade becoming a guard, failure to lock up Dockery in the summer of 2006 when he could've been had more cheaply - they HAD to make this trade. I don't envy the situation they put themselves in - desperate for a starting guard a few weeks before the start of the season - but applaud them for going out and finally doing something about it and getting the best guy they probably could so late in the game.

Yeah, teams have gotten Pro Bowl starting quarterbacks for less recently (Trent Green comes to mind), but the Skins were in a bind. Maybe at some point they'll draft someone to fill this role - you can find starting-caliber young guards all over the middle of the draft every year - but for the sake of Jason Campbell's development alone, you gotta solidify the left side of the line.

Okay, Beasley hasn't played in a year and is going on 33 - starting the Over The Hill Gang, Part Deux around here lately - but they had nothing behind Mike Sellers. Schmidt and Bell are nice prospects, but you don't want them second on the depth chart right now. We'll see how much Beasley has left in the tank.

First thing that came to mind for me, though, was the wide receiver, Brandon Lloyd. You may recall Beasley being one of the guys to rip him a it there in San Francisco, saying in 2004 that the team lacked anyone with the fortitude to be a big-time wideout - a shot at Lloyd - and also tore into his mentality.

Here's an AP account of it all:

http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=1915734

Wonder if they'll put Beasley's locker next to Lloyd's?

By Jason La Canfora  |  August 23, 2007; 6:11 PM ET
 
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Comments

first... what suckas?

Posted by: Dave | August 23, 2007 7:06 PM | Report abuse

first

Posted by: Has anyone said first yet? | August 23, 2007 7:09 PM | Report abuse

Tenth!

Posted by: tenth | August 23, 2007 7:11 PM | Report abuse

2rd...3th???

Posted by: 2rd...3th??? | August 23, 2007 7:11 PM | Report abuse

JLC continues to use this blog as an an editorial outlet. Getting tired of it.

Gonna take an RI break.

Posted by: SCSkinsFan | August 23, 2007 7:12 PM | Report abuse

Well - this is the season, where after 40 years I will have to decide if I can be an abused, Sunday spouse any further. I used to defend Synder. I was estatic at Gibb's second coming. But we see the same behavior. The same abject idicoy. And Joe... It's like watching Bush defend the war. Turn the channel and pass the beer.

Kendall. The team can get a good 3 years from him. And they had no choice because of the front office executing one stupid move after another. But hey, just like any business.

So long as their is strong profitability, we as fans should expect no change. None! Economic criteria is the deciding factor and Danny is getting it in spades. For now....

Posted by: hootchboy | August 23, 2007 7:14 PM | Report abuse

I appreciate JLCs blog. If you disagree with his opinions state why, and bring some facts... don't just attack him for expressing his opinions.

Posted by: Alan | August 23, 2007 7:15 PM | Report abuse

Man Jasno...give a little more credit without having to find a reason to rip the SKins for everything...I expect a bit more from you than the mindless "If they would have done this-and-that last year" stuff...Gotta play with cards you got and stop crying over the ones you folded last hand...

Posted by: pfunk | August 23, 2007 7:16 PM | Report abuse

we need to rid redskin nation of all these Morons who just dont get it!I would like my grandchildren(hav none) to see a championship and it will take that long if they ever start over(draft not overpay) and QUIT trying to win now!!

Posted by: POISON the KOOLAIDE | August 23, 2007 7:18 PM | Report abuse

1rd!

Posted by: Anonymous | August 23, 2007 7:19 PM | Report abuse

Maybe, but I bet you Kendall not only has a better season than Green, but he'll be on the active roster at the end of the season.

Posted by: kost52 | August 23, 2007 7:20 PM | Report abuse

JLC I love your work with the skins insider, that being said your last few articles have included a pinch of bitterness... What's got ya down big guy?

Posted by: pat | August 23, 2007 7:23 PM | Report abuse

8teenth!!!!!!

Posted by: Yeah biatches and hoes!!! | August 23, 2007 7:23 PM | Report abuse

And what is up with the talentless, content free clown that post "First"

First in what? Idiocy? Evidence you have no life? First in-line for the short-bus that takes you to the special school? First in-line to clog the network with your brainless drivel? First to prove you spend too much time in front of a computer playing with yourself?

Posted by: hootchboy | August 23, 2007 7:24 PM | Report abuse

this goood.....making fun of Booonell!


http://www.bangcartoon.com/2004/passingfancy.htm

Posted by: Panties | August 23, 2007 7:24 PM | Report abuse

All you morons are on record when DOC left (u know who u are)saying the loss of Doc was no big deal(guards grow on trees)Saying he was overpayed(HYPOCRITES)No salary cap problems(cant over pay own player)Now your eating your keyboards and looking like the watercooler football WANNABEES who act like they know everything but in reality KNOW NOTHING!!

Posted by: Jason for PRESIDENT | August 23, 2007 7:25 PM | Report abuse

Rip the skins for trying to develop depth with Heyer-check

Rip the skins for picking up a guy who solidifies the left side of the line-check

All is well.

Posted by: dmndifyado | August 23, 2007 7:26 PM | Report abuse

Alan,

How 'bout this - Jasno rips the Skins for having no depth. They go out and get 3 veterans in Godfrey, Kendall and Beasley to give themselves some veteran back-up. Then he rips them for finding and paying "old guys" to come in as stop-gaps. What the heck are the Skins supposed to do? Sit around and wait for Urlacher, Steve Hutchinson and Mack Strong to hit the waiver wire? "No, they're supposed to build through the draft and develop young guys"...yeah, like with Pucillo and Heyer, only when you give these guys playing time...they get ripped too!

I like you JLa, but I wonder if You've got some sour grapes with Gibbs right now...

Posted by: pfunk | August 23, 2007 7:26 PM | Report abuse

FIRsT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Posted by: take that hootchboy | August 23, 2007 7:26 PM | Report abuse

Trent Green is one hit away from being done. You are my boy JLC but this is really getting out of hand. Every move you are tearing them a new one. Have they done everything right? No but there are 31 other teams each year that haven't done it right. The goal is to win the SB. Everything in the universe is done in degrees. You don't just night and day. You have dust and done in between night and day. I don't expect them to get everything right over night. They have shown some improvement this year. No big splash and picked up players that have improved the D. This guy will improve the O Line. Do I like giving up a draft pick? Hell no, but at least we give up the whole house as we have done in the past. Sorry for the long post.

Posted by: jm220 | August 23, 2007 7:30 PM | Report abuse

I know that we've made the Kendall trade at the last minute, but if we had've one after him hard earlier, we probably would've had to give up a higher pick, up until this past weekend, the Jets still had hope of being able to work things out with him.

Posted by: kost52 | August 23, 2007 7:31 PM | Report abuse

I normally am a Janso defender. He has similar musical tastes as me, he (usually) has a keen sense of humor, he used to join in the fun here or at least pepper his posts with funny references or RI insider jokes....

But Bro your getting stale. You haven't found your voice yet this year at all. Its all hitting the same note. I feel like you have a template for how you judge the team and then just change the details. I don't even really disagree that much in theory but you have ceased to be fun/funny or that interesting. I stay (b/c I know I will be asked) due to the community. skins obsession and b/c most of the regulars on here crack me the hell up (intentionally and unintentionally).

One reason I am waitin', hopin', wishin' for a playoff season is to see you eat a heaping helping of crow.

UGH I hate this post, sound like some kool-aid ES boob...but I had to say it....

Posted by: chris larry | August 23, 2007 7:31 PM | Report abuse

JLC's editorial comments are just grandstanding for his dream job at ESPN as a soccer/beer/Ipod music analyst.

I'm tired of him ripping on Gibbs and Buges.

I've had enough of this cat. I will check back from time to time to see if they get a professional reporter up in here.

Posted by: SCSkinsFan | August 23, 2007 7:34 PM | Report abuse

Another craptastic blog full of hate for the Skins. Go crawl back in your hole JLC. You suck

Posted by: Rob | August 23, 2007 7:35 PM | Report abuse

J La...the skins are doing what they got to do to win big ASAP, I know you love the Ravens I mean Colts...whatever..the Skins have a nice balance of youngins and veterans and it seems like they went after some fiery characters who are respected leaders...yes look into it Kendall, Godfrey, Beasley, Fletcher all have press that back them up as ferocious players and leaders...I don't like Vinny so much but I feel good about my Skins and the Post was my paper since I was a kid..I am 43 now and I hate going to the post for Skins news cause its all written by out of town haters...JLa I think your smart and a good writer but I do not like you covering the hometown team for the home town paper...I am not looking for homerism but I would like to see the Post have a little more class and maturity on the Skins beat!!!

Posted by: herb | August 23, 2007 7:42 PM | Report abuse

AMEN, Jm220, Chris Larry, and SCSkinsfan!

Posted by: Lisa | August 23, 2007 7:42 PM | Report abuse

Jets and DENVER continue to make the Redskins run by a Over the hill coach who brings in over the hill players be the laughing stocks of nfl! havent we gotten enough failures from the jets and given enough draft picks to both clubs?Someone should google all draft picks we gave and who the team got since coach joe has returned??

Posted by: Homework for the night? | August 23, 2007 7:42 PM | Report abuse

Ahhh, this makes me feel so much better. I almost went an entire pre season without blowing another draft pick!!! I miss giving out great picks, though i am bummed I was only able to dole out a 4th rounder. Next time.

In any event, as long as im the Sheriff in town, Washington will never win a Super Bowl.

Posted by: Cerratto | August 23, 2007 7:42 PM | Report abuse

I respect your work JLC and I have bashed the Skins for their lack of vision for the future but you really do sound bitter these days. What did the Skins do to piss you off so bad?

Posted by: Jay | August 23, 2007 7:43 PM | Report abuse

So I am sittin here sorta stewin, sorta thinkin....should we start a new blog? I know how to set'em up...we could make it so a bunch of us could write posts...and than comment galore. It would only be worth doing if it was active and we had conversations and community.

I was thinking "Redskins Outsiders"

just saying and thinking out loud...

Posted by: chris larry | August 23, 2007 7:45 PM | Report abuse

I agree jm220 we're not the only team making moves, which may turn out wrong. If Adalius Thomas goes out and dominates this season and Jarrett Johnson struggles will the Ravens be torn a new one? If Randy Moss is a bust in New England? If Tony Ugoh can't cover BBM's blind side replacing T.Glenn? If Norv can't succeed in SD? If Shaub is no better than Carr? If Leftwich has an identical season to last year? If more Bengals are arrested?

Posted by: kost52 | August 23, 2007 7:46 PM | Report abuse

I think JLC does a great job on both ends. The problem is that a blogger should not also be the primary beat reporter. Blogging requires editorializing and his statements on this blog have hurt his access within the Redskins front office.

The finger of blame needs to be pointed at the Post organization, which more than likely is too cheap to pay someone just to blog and someone just to report.

Posted by: Anonymous | August 23, 2007 7:48 PM | Report abuse

What's the point of the bitterness here? It's entirely inappropriate.

Posted by: Paul | August 23, 2007 7:49 PM | Report abuse

[shaking head]

Posted by: WrongDog | August 23, 2007 7:50 PM | Report abuse

Panties,
Me pee, me laugh so hard at Brooonell link.

(sorry, no future draft picks for Barn-boy)

Posted by: Anonymous | August 23, 2007 7:51 PM | Report abuse

boobs?

Posted by: Anonymous | August 23, 2007 7:52 PM | Report abuse

Look Jason, the Redskins are trying. Sure they've made mistakes in the past but why cry over spilt milk? They did a good thing by not matching Dockery's huge contract. Maybe they should have found an OL guy before now but they don't exactly fall from the sky (at reasonable prices). So finally the Redskins are exercising fiscal restraint and trying to build upon their draft pick. Besides, am sure whatever contract they signed with Kendall will be one where everybody knows he won't see all the money.

Posted by: Bart | August 23, 2007 7:53 PM | Report abuse

Considering Dock wasn't worth re-signing until he picked up his game in the last half of 2006, if the Skins had preemptively signed him I'm sure you would have ripped the team again for spending money keeping the wrong guys. Your hindsight is remarkably keen.

Posted by: bobzmuda | August 23, 2007 7:55 PM | Report abuse

Goff's comment on Soccer Insider haven't hurt his access with DC United. Either the Redskins are unnecessarily petty or Jason is unnecessarily negative. Or both :)

Posted by: Bart | August 23, 2007 7:55 PM | Report abuse

JLC - Your bitterness towards the Redskins has been getting out of control lately and I hope your mentors/boss/supervisors take notice to this. If you want to see how a real Post blog about home teams should be run then go spend some time with Ivan and Michael over on the Wizards blog. You never see them bashing the organization that they cover. It's pretty bad when some of your long time regulars are pointing out your negativity also.

Posted by: JLC is getting out of hand | August 23, 2007 7:56 PM | Report abuse

JLC,

You have talked incessantly about how the Redskins have such poor depth along the O-line, Wade has struggled to fit in at LG, yada yada yada. You also said the addition of Kendall gives the team a big boost and adds significant depth. You have also talked about how the team cannot draft well in the later rounds of the draft. So, my question to you is, why are you talking so much trash about the move (which is not anything new for you)?

The team gambled that Wade would make the transition to guard well and they lost. And, if the team is so bad at drafting in the later rounds, who cares if they lost a 5th or 4th rounder? If so much of the team's fate seems to rest along the O-line, isn't it smart to make the move to nab a proven guy even if he is aging?

Finally, hindsight is always 20/20. Dockery wasnt worth what the Bills paid for him. True, we might have been able to nab him earlier in 2006, but how could we have forseen how much money he'd get on the open market? NO ONE expected him to get that much, hence all the stories and talk about the crazy contracts being doled out last offseason.

I know you're gig is to rip into the Skins Front Office, and since they haven't fielded a whole lot of winning seasons, they deserve some criticism. But, you are really coming off as a guy with a personal gripe with the team, as opposed to an objective observer who criticizes some of the team's moves.

Posted by: Calling for Objectivity | August 23, 2007 7:58 PM | Report abuse

I have to give JLA an out on this one. Gibbs ripped him publicly, but behind the scenes I am sure he got lambasted. For the most part, JLA gives us the fix we need good, bad, or ugly. A little less pissyness would be ideal, but I can't blame him.

So now that you have been defended JLA, quite being a P#ssy, rub some dirt on and get back in the game.

Posted by: Dislexic Dex #72 | August 23, 2007 7:59 PM | Report abuse

According to Fatsarelli,
Skins give up 2008 5th round if Kendall plays 80% of snaps or 4th round in 2009 if he plays more than that. I personally like the trade.

Posted by: MikeW | August 23, 2007 8:00 PM | Report abuse

"Homework for the night" what the HELL are you talking about? We got Santana Moss and Randy Thomas from the Jets....a gold mine!

Posted by: Lisa | August 23, 2007 8:00 PM | Report abuse

I also think Tarik at the Caps blog does a great job....

So no takers/intrest in starting a new blog together....no biggie...

email offline if it sounds appealing

chrislarry (at) nyc . rr . com

Posted by: chris larry | August 23, 2007 8:01 PM | Report abuse

just what i was looking for:):):):)

Posted by: King Spammer | August 23, 2007 8:04 PM | Report abuse

Dislexic Dex #72,

I think you nailed it. I'm hoping the pissyness will wear off in a day or two.

There is a conflict between the beat reporter and blogger. I appreciate both, but here we are inhabiting that conflict. It feels sticky.

Posted by: Stumped | August 23, 2007 8:05 PM | Report abuse

JLC-

I lurk and read your blog several times a day. Thank you for your endless updates and insights!

Posted by: Falls Church | August 23, 2007 8:06 PM | Report abuse

Im with you guys on this one, I normally have JLaCs back as well, and have been reading and posting periodically since day 1. This post does reek of bitterness. JLA bro, there are those of us that love our Skins and just would like some balance with the blog/articles just to give us a sense of hope, it really cant be a bad move by them EVERY freaking time.

Thanks

Posted by: oc skins | August 23, 2007 8:07 PM | Report abuse

1 out of 10 in quality of this article

Posted by: Anonymous | August 23, 2007 8:08 PM | Report abuse

Jasno - Everyone knows you read these posts because any time someone mentions something about soccer you all of the sudden pop up (i.e. fantasy league). I think we need an explanation or an apology for your recent ramblings. Or you should provide contact info where we can send complaints.

Posted by: Down with Jasno!! | August 23, 2007 8:08 PM | Report abuse

I am not in a confrontational mood, so not a fight here. But I do disagree that there is some grand conflict between beat reporter/blogger. Its done well all over the place at the Post and many other places.

Too me (a former journalism major, and someone who enjoys writing and reading good writers) its his tone that getting old. There is very little style in either the beat stuff or blog.

Oh hell I dont know what I am saying and going to stop. Having a blogstential crisis.

Posted by: chris larry | August 23, 2007 8:10 PM | Report abuse

I vote for Chris Larry as Jasno's replacement!!

Posted by: Down with Jasno!! | August 23, 2007 8:12 PM | Report abuse

Blogging and reporting are a tough, and troubling (for me), mix.

Granted, it's sports and not serious matters. But I'm increasingly irritated by reporters (even in sports) acting as experts on matters they know little about.

Give us the facts; we'll make the judgments.

Posted by: SteveMG | August 23, 2007 8:12 PM | Report abuse

JLC,

Let me also say that, although I think you have some personal gripe against the team or members of its front office, I usually defend you. I also criticize the team's moves. I also detest Art "I'm a middle-aged idiot with an vastly inflated sense of self-importance" from extremelosers. But, I'm starting to think that your "enemies" may be right about you having some bitterness towards the team. Is it because you grew up in B-more? What's the deal?

Posted by: Calling for objectivity | August 23, 2007 8:12 PM | Report abuse

F Jasno LaCantoucansam

Posted by: Anonymous | August 23, 2007 8:12 PM | Report abuse

JLaC - 1st, let me say I love you.

Now, you say:
"As for Kendall: In a nutshell, the Redskins overpaid for a 34-year old guard - same ol story there - and have again taken aim at a future year's draft, but that's a vicious cycle that might never end at this point, so let's not even get into it now. I'll put the exact compensation in my story in tomorrow's paper, but it's substantial for a stopgap guy. "

Dude, a 4th or 5th in '09 is only 5th or 6th in next year's draft.

So, let's recap. They got a starter for a 5th or 6th round valued draft pick? Not a good deal? Not $$$ well spent? T drink Remy, not Christan Brothers....

Posted by: 4th via Home Floor | August 23, 2007 8:13 PM | Report abuse

"Give us the facts; we'll make the judgments"

P.S. I think Jason is probably 100% right in his analysis.

Underscore - analysis.

Posted by: SteveMG | August 23, 2007 8:13 PM | Report abuse

Must be JLC's time of the month or something. Very very bitter. We have gotten hosed by Denver in trades but I wouldn't say so with the Jets. We got Santana Moss from them. Essentially we just gave back the 6th rounder we got from them for Ramsey improved by another round or 2 for a starting left guard for the next 2 years. Kendall's salary this year is about 20% of what Dockery got as a signing bonus. If you are looking at the big picture, the FO has messed up plenty. The moves they have made recently do not deserve anywhere near the criticism that I am now constantly reading here.

Come on Jasno. WTF?

Posted by: cdubb | August 23, 2007 8:16 PM | Report abuse

I'm sick of all this negativity!!!! J-Lac, Sportstalk 980...Let me set yall muthaf*****ers straight once and for all...

Name one team that hasn't made draft and free agent mistakes...To hell with Derrick Dockery...They tried to negotiate with him, but he wanted to test the free agent market. It's funny how when the Skins acquire players through free agency, and they work out...no one credits the organization for smart free agent moves. Moss, Portis, Washington, Thomas. The defense has more free agents than the offense and they have been great so far this pre-season. It included a 32 year old tackling machine in London Flecther. We draft for O-line depth and people expect pro-bowl talent. Stop whining!!! Make up your minds people!!! This blog wreaks of hate by J-Lac and I usually his work.

Posted by: sicwidit | August 23, 2007 8:17 PM | Report abuse

Since when did you become such a bitter pill? Joe Jackson Gibbs calls you out on your unwarranted/over-the-top criticism of Heyer and now you've go all ex-girlfriend on the team?

Kendall was a great pickup. Measure his salary against Dockery's monopoly money and he was a genuine bargain. A 5th/4th is chump change for a starting, quality guard who may save our franchise QB and our 07 season.

And now it's ragging on bringing in depth. Who knows if it'll work out. What do we have to lose?

The endless negativity gets ollllld. Are you now writing Over-the-Hill-Gang style?

Posted by: Bryan | August 23, 2007 8:19 PM | Report abuse

I'd be interested to know how many of these anonymous or posted under a different name comments against Jasno are from regulars. Big props to regulars who actually spoke up against the negativity under their regular screen names.

Posted by: A regular | August 23, 2007 8:20 PM | Report abuse

I'm saying it right now. If...and it's a big if the Redskins make the playoffs, what do ya'll think the criticism will be???

Posted by: sicwidit | August 23, 2007 8:20 PM | Report abuse

We are witnessing a serious WaPo brain drain on the Redskins beat. Kornheiser and Wilbon are gone. Maske is gone (over to the NFL beat). Wang is gone. Bryant is now gone.

We are stuck with the dregs (La Canfora constantly bashing the team viz a viz the Ravens, an occasional banal column by TBoz or rant from Jenkins up in NYC).

How can the WaPo ignore one of their bread-and-butter readership areas? This is crazy. I almost, *almost* went over to see what the Times had to say about my beloved Redskins. Someone please stop the madness.

Posted by: SCSkinsFan | August 23, 2007 8:21 PM | Report abuse

and now you've go all ex-girlfriend on the team?

Posted by: Bryan | August 23, 2007 08:19 PM

LMGO!

Well this place is still good for a laugh!!!

Posted by: Anonymous | August 23, 2007 8:22 PM | Report abuse

All Bloggers over 50:

What were they saying about Allen bringing in the original "Over the Hill Gang"? I'm sure they didn't think it would have worked out then either, huh?

Posted by: 4th via Home Floor | August 23, 2007 8:23 PM | Report abuse

Sorry, was me.

Posted by: kost52 | August 23, 2007 8:24 PM | Report abuse

I'm tired of everyone talking about how we could pick up a guard to develop next year in the draft, or how we need to think about building our team. What franchise do you people think this is, the Patriots? It has been "win now" ever since Mr. Cooke passed (God rest his soul), and there's no reason to think that's going to change. This is a great pick-up by a (usually) terrible front office. We have a decent squad, and assuming a certain "injured" RB can run downfield the same way he can run his mouth, we have an outside shot at the playoffs. So back off the FO. They made the trade they needed to, and the compensation (as reported) was fair.

Posted by: Pete in Atlanta | August 23, 2007 8:26 PM | Report abuse

SCSkinsFan, the Times is much kinder to the Skins - although they are objective as well. And negative when necessary. However, much more objective.

Posted by: Lisa | August 23, 2007 8:28 PM | Report abuse

Don't understand what the big deal is here. This is a forum for discussion, no? So what's up with the desire to replace the blogger or go elsewhere? I call it being realistic with a tinge of cynicism. Maybe too much for some, but that's just how he rolls.

JLC was right on target here. They did the best they could do with a crappy situation, but it reeks of the same old habits that got them into this predicament.

THEY NEED A FRICKIN GM WITH A PLAN. Someone who has a plan laid out and doesn't keep plugging holes in the dam with their friggin fingers and toes.

Does everyone here need to balance out a negative with a positive? Will that make you all feel better?

Here we go:

"At the detriment of future young talent (AKA draft picks), the Skins traded for a 34 year old starting caliber LG. Some say he is on the decline, but, on the bright side, he looks good in burgandy spandex. It was the best move in a sh*tty situation that the front office is responsible for creating. On the bright side, Jeebus loves you."

Am I am happy they made this move? Yes, but it's somewhat of an empty, exhausting happiness due to the fact that they TRADED ANOTHER DRAFT PICK to do it!

Posted by: Bucktown Skins Fan | August 23, 2007 8:28 PM | Report abuse

What a rollercoaster day. I log on this morning to find out about Kendall, and I'm in a great mood, all excited, singing (Architecture in Helsinki), dancing (poorly) and just plain old happy. Reading through the blog, and it generally seemed to be the same mood, 8/10 people happy, we're all looking forward to the season, and now in the place where we show that joy, we get negativismness.

Posted by: kost52 | August 23, 2007 8:28 PM | Report abuse

Let me ask my fellow bloggers a question...would you have resigned Dockery under the premise of "well...we overpay everybody else...why not him?

Posted by: sicwidit | August 23, 2007 8:31 PM | Report abuse

John Clayton of ESPN:

The Pete Kendall trade was a fast one, put together by the Redskins and the Jets in less than 24 hours. The Jets will receive a fifth-round pick in 2008 if Kendall plays 80 percent of the snaps this year; the pick would be a fourth-rounder in '09 if he plays more. Over the past three years, Kendall has played at least 90 percent of the snaps in each of those seasons. Acquiring Kendall resolves several things along the offensive line. First, it stops the conversion of Todd Wade from tackle to guard. Wade will now be the backup tackle. Second, it gives the Redskins some beef on the interior of their offensive line. The Redskins' schedule dictates that the team can't be too small in its interior blocking.

Kendall gets his money: The loser in the Kendall trade was the Miami Dolphins. They had been hoping Kendall, who didn't want to stay in New York because the Jets wouldn't give him a $1 million raise, would be cut. That wasn't going to happen. Had there been no trade offer, the Jets would have kept Kendall even if he were unhappy. Once the Redskins got involved, things started moving pretty quickly. The trade gives the Jets eight draft choices in 2008. Kendall was also a winner in the trade. Though his preference would have been to stay in New York if he got paid, Kendall proved his point. He wanted to get a raise from $1.7 million to $2.7 million, and teams were willing to accommodate him. Aside from the Redskins and Dolphins, the Chiefs also had interest. Kendall will now make $2.7 million this season and $2.3 million in 2008.

Posted by: Rob | August 23, 2007 8:31 PM | Report abuse

Let me ask my fellow bloggers a question...would you have resigned Dockery under the premise of "well...we overpay everybody else...why not him?

Posted by: sicwidit | August 23, 2007 8:32 PM | Report abuse

Maybe JLa just wants this blog to go away. Or maybe he rode to work in a golf cart today and was BUI.

Posted by: SMACK | August 23, 2007 8:36 PM | Report abuse

So over the next 2 years we have 12 of 14 draft picks left including all 6 in the top 3 rounds. I will change my opinion if they keep doing this but giving up a 4th-5th rounder to have a much better chance to win this year is well worth it. The OL should be as good as last year and will allow us to see a bunch of Portis and Betts running wild. I personally don't think Wade or Pucillo would have provided that and am looking real forward to a potential playoff run.

Posted by: cdubb | August 23, 2007 8:37 PM | Report abuse

Considering how the Skins draft it was a great trade. It will probably wind up being one of the top 5 picks in the 5th round.

Posted by: Larry | August 23, 2007 8:38 PM | Report abuse

"Though his preference would have been to stay in New York if he got paid, Kendall proved his point. He wanted to get a raise from $1.7 million to $2.7 million, and teams were willing to accommodate him. Aside from the Redskins and Dolphins, the Chiefs also had interest. Kendall will now make $2.7 million this season and $2.3 million in 2008.

Posted by: Rob | August 23, 2007 08:31 PM

"

I can't complain there. For Gibbs 2.4 It's def win soon.......

Posted by: 4th via Home Floor | August 23, 2007 8:40 PM | Report abuse

JLC, Steve Czaban and Andy Pollen, perfect candidates for the Gripe, Moan, Negativity, Sour Grapes, Pessimists, Whine award.

Second place goes to at least half of the comments on this blog.

Posted by: FW | August 23, 2007 8:41 PM | Report abuse

Let me ask my fellow bloggers a question...would you have resigned Dockery under the premise of "well...we overpay everybody else...why not him?


I would have overpaid. It seems overpaying and being in cap trouble is better than not having draft picks my man

Posted by: oc skins | August 23, 2007 8:42 PM | Report abuse

Jason's a little bitter because he called this one completely wrong. Here's what he wrote last Friday:

Pete Kendall

Got a bunch of emails about him the last few weeks, and talked to some NFL people today (from organizations other than the Skins) who have been in contact witht he Jets. As I have suspected, they are not looking to move the valuable O Lineman now, despite his clashes with the organization.

He continues to practice with the first team and is playing well in camp and looks like a starter for them. It's awful tough to find quality linemen at this time of year. My best guess is maybe they try to find a half-decent guard off the scrap heat in a few weeks after the first round of cuts, but the trade market could be stale.


By Jason La Canfora | August 17, 2007; 9:32 PM ET

Now that the 'Skins showed that he was completely wrong, he wants to lash out and whine his alternate whine "they paid too much."

So much for the "Insider." The 'Skins completely outwit him every day. Last week he was "valuable" but now that he plays for the Skins he's monkey dung.

Posted by: talent evaluator | August 23, 2007 8:45 PM | Report abuse

I didn't see this coming!

Posted by: Jack Meoff | August 23, 2007 8:46 PM | Report abuse

Jason,
Others may disagree and do so srongly, but IMO you are a welcome breath of fresh air - - honest, accessible and in depth. Best reporting and most honest info Post has had since BEFORE Maske and Liz Clarke, before Christine Brennan, etc. Thx...keep up the good work and big effort; it's not unnoticed I ALWAYS check your blog.

Posted by: tkay in NY | August 23, 2007 8:48 PM | Report abuse

I smell MUTINY.... MUTINY, I tell ya!!!

Posted by: RI Rebel | August 23, 2007 8:48 PM | Report abuse

talent -

that was beautiful

Posted by: CMoney | August 23, 2007 8:48 PM | Report abuse

$2.7 million this year and $2.3 million next? Compared to what the free agent guards were getting this year, the guy's a steal. Even Jason is on record as having classified the man as "valuable."

Posted by: talent evaluator | August 23, 2007 8:48 PM | Report abuse

You are so bitter. You suck.

Posted by: no fan of yours | August 23, 2007 8:49 PM | Report abuse

Kendall is a solid guard and worth a 5th round pick. JLC you sound a little bitter to me as well. I disagree with you on bad drafting. I LIKE SHAWN TAYLOR, CHRIS COOLEY, LARON LANDRY, CHRIS SAMUELS, etc.
Dockery was Way Overpaid, thats why he left. Was bad decisions made over the years, tell us something we already don't know. There on the right path and I'm not looking back.

Posted by: 1972Fan | August 23, 2007 8:50 PM | Report abuse

cdubb, I am a diehard Redskins fan. I bleed burgandy and gold... so know that I mean no disrespect.

"I will change my opinion if they keep doing this but..."

What do you mean "keep" doing this? The Skins have been doing "this" for years. I feel like Skins fans seem to have some sort of short term memory loss. Every time the Skins make a smart move (albeit one to get them out of a self created hole) we forget that they got themselves into that situation by doing the exact same thing the year before... or the year before that. It has to stop sometime.

I am completely fine with someone like JLC, a beat reporter for the team, pointing out the obvious, GLARING issues with the Skins until they start winning football games regularly. Maybe a little bit of pressure from our media and the fans will force them to stop making it up as they go.

Posted by: Bucktown Skins Fan | August 23, 2007 8:50 PM | Report abuse

F Jasno!!!

Posted by: I hate you | August 23, 2007 8:50 PM | Report abuse

Bucktown....you do bring the common sense....something about Janso is rubbing me raw lately....but you make good points for sure

Posted by: chris larry | August 23, 2007 8:53 PM | Report abuse

Honestly, who cares what opinions JLC has about the Skins? Everyone on here has a different opinion anyway. If JLC says one thing, 95% of people on here are going to disagree with him no matter what content he posts. I can't believe everyone is all up in arms over a few posts on a blog and a subjective article. Just believe what you want to believe about the Skins, that's all that matters at the end of the day, right? In the end...it's nothing but HTTR!!

Posted by: CC | August 23, 2007 8:53 PM | Report abuse

I sort of follow this blog when I have time, and from what I can see, there are a lot of skins fans who want to believe they are a contender. They're not. Maybe the Kendall, Godfrey, and Beasley deals are good, maybe bad. But, anyone can argue either way. The only reason I think folks are getting on JLC so bad is they want to believe that the Skins are a contender this year, and they don't want anyone peeing on their wheaties. Look at the facts folks, no such luck. God knows I wish that weren't the case. But, they just don't have all the pieces. Still praying for some playoff wins and two victories over the stinking Eagles, but my head tells me no way. Lay off JLC because you have pipe dreams.

Posted by: P Daddy Skins Fan | August 23, 2007 8:55 PM | Report abuse

way to go assswipes, now he won't give any news or updates b/c ya'll were rude and i won't get my news and updates, thanx a lot ladies

Posted by: CoC | August 23, 2007 8:56 PM | Report abuse

"Joe Jackson Gibbs calls you out on your unwarranted/over-the-top criticism of Heyer and now you've go all ex-girlfriend on the team?"

Posted by: Bryan | August 23, 2007 08:19 PM

Hillarious! LMGO!!! Why do I smell the beginnings of an end : (

Posted by: It's not even Sept. yet | August 23, 2007 8:57 PM | Report abuse

cL, i appreciate the comment. You know I love you guys. It just seems like there's a little bit of herd mentality going on here in the comments.

I am of the optimistic nature, but I roll with a pessimistic group of Skins fans. My mind is a little more used to JLC's somewhat pessimistic, but still fair take on the situation.

I think JLC is busy as hell with no help on the Skins beat, and can't read the comments or respond. Those were better days, and I hope we can return to them.

Posted by: Bucktown Skins Fan | August 23, 2007 8:57 PM | Report abuse

I can't wait for the season to start so we can all turn our aggression on next week's opponent. There has been too much bashing of each other and JLC the past few days. This isn't an AOL chat room. It's a sports blog. Also, think about this...JLC has the little one at home, so he might not be getting a lot of sleep. Not too mention, he's pulling double duty since his writing partner left the Post (keeping him away from his little ones). And finally, how often do we all get pissed at our employers and talk to our co-workers about how pissed we are at their screw-ups. JLC is just having a bad week(s). We should support him, not bash him.

Posted by: protosnot | August 23, 2007 8:58 PM | Report abuse

Bucktown - no offense taken man. I probably should have said if they keep doing this going forward. I hate our FO structure and have b*tched and moaned about the abundant number of mistakes they have made ever since Snyder took over. Just trying to keep an open mind that they have learned from all these mistakes over the past 7 years. It seems so far this offseason they have been making solid moves. I guess only time will tell if they have.

Posted by: cdubb | August 23, 2007 9:00 PM | Report abuse

Lisa is EXACTLY right and so is JLC.

WE lack a FO w stones. When Charlie C, a really decent guy, was bounced out by Dan in July of whatever year it was, the ONE personnel guy who was available was Vinny.

Now he may be a great guy and a damn fine racketball player, but NO decent, let alone good, personnel guy is available right before training camp starts in July. PERIOD.

Picking up Vinny at that time was the FO equivalent of signing Jeff George as QB in July. Until we get a strong guy in there who has an actual strategy and can say NO to Dan and Joe and who can and will say "here's EXCATLY what we need to do,'' we will continue to make expedient, tactical decisions which will cost us too much for too little time.

In this case, however, we shouldn't have rolled the dice w Wade w/o a solid alternative. Having none, this was a must-do to salvage the O line this year.

Posted by: tkay in NY | August 23, 2007 9:01 PM | Report abuse

Jason,
You sound bitter dude. After Coach Joe gave you the smackdown yesterday did the Redskins shut you out? One of the moderators from ES said that you were overheard in the press box earlier saying you were going to write a negative article about the O line no matter which direction the coaching staff went with personel. Is this true? How is Kendall overpaid? Dockery is making more than twice what Kendall makes. Is Dockery a better player? Dockery isn't even in the same league as Kendall. Sure Pete is older but he has two or three good years left, injuries and all.

Posted by: DJ | August 23, 2007 9:02 PM | Report abuse

suck

Posted by: you | August 23, 2007 9:02 PM | Report abuse

You spun a good thing because you are a beeyotch.

Posted by: fool | August 23, 2007 9:05 PM | Report abuse

Even I don't SJK on the hand that feeds me.

Posted by: ex-girlfriend | August 23, 2007 9:06 PM | Report abuse

Re: re-signing Dockery earlier.

Should we have made more of an effort? Probably. But until he came on gangbusters in 2006 he was a 70/30 (70% of the time he would play great 30% of the time you shake your head wondering what the hell he was doing) false start machine. Give him credit, he improved every year he was here, but in 2004 would you have said the guy was worth a contract extension? Leading the team in false starts and generally considered the weakest link on the o-line in terms of technique. The guy picked his contract year to come on strong and by that time he wanted to test the free agent market. Can't blame him too much for that.

Posted by: dmndifyado | August 23, 2007 9:09 PM | Report abuse

JLC cmon man your ripping the Skins in this deal? I beleive it was a fine they needed a lg and I totally disagree with you about Dockery...Sure be Captain Obvious about him....Dock never played that great until near the end of that season...your telling me they should have signed him before they knew he was going to improve...I dont buy that brand...Dock was not ALL THAT he was ok but nothing too special...you act like he was a pro bowler they could have gotten cheap....I think they waited to see if HE WAS WORTH RESIGNING...So buffalo WAYYY over paid him...so what....let him go...I think the Skins did a great job getting Kendall...so they traded a draft pick 5th maybe 4th...SO FREAKIN WHAT! They will sign somebody via FA when he leaves...SO WHAT...you all act like everything they frwakin do is a mistake and the end of the woorld...I SEE 31 other teams these past years use the draft and guess what...THEY DONT HAVE A RING EITHER! I'm SO SICK of that same old story...they traded a draft pick....so what the time is now not in 2013!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Posted by: Leevi | August 23, 2007 9:10 PM | Report abuse

Where is that kid from the Pacific NW when you need him?

Posted by: PG | August 23, 2007 9:13 PM | Report abuse

I love the skins and I love the Kendall move and I'm excited about the season now.

But J-La, tell it like it is baby, this is the worst run franchise in football. Our front office is a joke and from a personell standpoint we are the laughing stock of the league. We are the place over the hill wanna be big-time free agents target because Snyder is dumb enough to pay them. We have a chance this year, and I like our team, but that doesn't erase the 15 years of stupidity our front office has displayed. It comes down to boy George flexing his millions and his stupidity.

Posted by: Jack | August 23, 2007 9:13 PM | Report abuse

I take things year by year....Not always looking into the future like Luke Skywalker!!! I could careless waht happens next year or year after that...deal with that when the time comes...JUST LIKE THEY DID THIS YEAR! The last time i checked the goal here was to win a SB....That means now...I say you do whatever it takes each year to win now...bottom line....according to ALL haters we were headed for cap hell 5 times over...but yet they still manage to sign players...SO I'm over this same old discussion about trading picks and signing players...You do what ya think ya gotta do to try and win a bowl...I eman what do you want...be the vikes and have tons of cap room and never sign anyone but kickers and stock pile drafted players that never pan out except one in every freakin 10 and still no SB title? PLEASE!

Posted by: Leevi | August 23, 2007 9:15 PM | Report abuse

In the immortal words of the prison captain in Cool Hand Luke:

"What we've got here is failure to communicate. Some men you just can't reach, so you get what we had here last week which is the way he wants it. Well, he gets it. And I don't like it any more than you men."

This quote is perfect and relevant because you can replace the "he" with whomever you want and it will remain accurate. Snyder. Gibbs. Jasno. The last poster who annoyed you. Whoever.

This thread is a symptom of a larger disease, in my opinion. Our beloved Skins are on the downward slide to two DECADES of fairly consistent awfulness -- and the occasional flash of potential and success only teases us with what could have been. Once you get to the point where the Nation now is, every small detail becomes That Which Will Rescue Us and/or Doom This Season and the Next Fifteen Seasons. As a fan base, our wretched anguish has robbed all perspective.

Of course, there is more. We have an owner who made the wrong kind of splash when he took over, giving him a deserving reputation for running the team like a Fantasy Football Coach. On the other hand, I am convinced that the young, obscenely rich, football outsider who went from minority owner in a failed bid to majority owner of his favorite team was destined to face jealousy, doubt, and unfavorable comparisons to his diametrically opposite predecessor, the Squire. The present can never succeed in maintaining a perspective with the past, glorious "Good Old Days."

This fair and unfair combination was perpetuated by a national media that seemed to just not let go of Snyder's first couple of years. I still read references to moves made the first year he took over -- and you know had he been miserly with the payroll after forking over $800 million, he would have been raked for that instead. True, Snyder has not won and, therefore, does not deserve the benefit of the doubt. His dogged insistence in continuing to operate without a true GM remains deserving of ridicule. Yet, as the saying goes, "even a blind dog sometimes finds a bone." Every specific move the Skins make cannot be reflexively judged as a bad one, despite the overall broken operational framework. Journalists -- and yes, including Jason -- are, by nature and profession, skeptics of the norm and the incumbent. They have lost all perspective on judging tactical moves by the Skins because they have strategically run to the critical extreme in some sort of unconscious attempt to balance the Skins FO & rapid fan base.

It is nearly impossible to be objective concerning the Skins because the biases of all parties are so deeply ingrained and we are so self unaware of them. The Skins FO is arrogant in its stubborn refusal to change their approach. The journalistic ego in being "objective outsiders" blinds reporters' ability to recognize situations when cynicism can be appropriately set aside. And let us not forget that "fan" is short for "fanatical," and Skins Nation will never be objective, fair, or rationally unemotional -- especially when we are desperate.

And how's this for perspective? Skins win consistently and all will be forgiven and forgotten. Hail!

Posted by: HaikuMan | August 23, 2007 9:16 PM | Report abuse

Is this that much different from the Patriots not paying big bucks for Deion Branch, and then having to fill that hole with a trade for Randy Moss?

Posted by: kost52 | August 23, 2007 9:21 PM | Report abuse

I like the trade; and if you read the post, Jason applauds it too.

But let's face it, this is making the best of a bad situation. It's giving us a chance to win now. And it makes sense, given Gibb's contract will expire before the SHTF.

But this is not the way to build a dominant franchise, which is what we really want.

Posted by: Stumped | August 23, 2007 9:21 PM | Report abuse

Christmas called, they want their grinch back.

Posted by: Father Christmas | August 23, 2007 9:22 PM | Report abuse

Another thing...The Skins are not the only team signing FAs or signing older FAs...Its just when the Skins do it...It's bad...If we would have traded for Randy Moss EVRYONE WOULD BE GOING APE SHEET! That he is old over the hill...team killer etc etc But since the Pats did...Its great....There have only been what? 5 different SB Champs since 2000? Pats being 3 of them....so I'd say all those teams in the league have failed just like the Skins and didnt win a bowl doing it there way...So stop with this same old tired blaming coversations....When so danile has the money to out bid SO WHAT!!!!!!!!!!!!! Let him...why cause he can and he is trying to win....you hit some you lose some...I see NOTHING WRONG with bringing in season vets for depth in case of injury...."Future IS NOW"

Posted by: Leevi | August 23, 2007 9:22 PM | Report abuse

HaikuMan that was the most coherent post I've every read on this board. Great job.

Posted by: DJ | August 23, 2007 9:22 PM | Report abuse

JLC -- I've enjoyed reading your stuff up until now. Either they needed a stopgap fix, as you'd successfully convinced me earlier (perhaps you'd meant a fix minus "stopgap", but what other kind of fix can you get at this point in the preseason?), or this is an idiotic move. I'm not sure you can have it both ways.

Don't stop reading. I know you blame drafting and lack of talks to Doc for having to make this move, but 1.) "that's a vicious cycle that might never end at this point" hyperbole steps way over the any pretense to objective journalism. The talk on the Extreme Skins message board made it sound like you were ranting in the press box that Heyer was no good before the game had even started last week. 2.) Look at what the draft has still managed to bring in -- Taylor, Landry, Cooley, Campbell, Betts, Dockery, Samuels, Jansen, Rocky, Golston... they're doing okay. Again, either they're in a continual vortex with draft picks or they've [agreed with your earlier post and] made a smart move to ensure this season had a chance.

Calm down. Please, ensure that the story reads like a journalist wrote it, not another dimestore blogger.

Posted by: worstSeat | August 23, 2007 9:23 PM | Report abuse

Well said HaikuMan!

Posted by: kost52 | August 23, 2007 9:24 PM | Report abuse

Jason,

I have enjoyed reading your blog. But it seems you have taken the comments of Gibbs personally. Sure sign of your downfall as a writer from this point on. Your blog is starting to read more like the rantings of a bitter guy. I advise you get over it and be less emotional. Otherwise you will be like all the other wannabes like Czabe and Pasquerelli.

Posted by: Jhn Fosback | August 23, 2007 9:24 PM | Report abuse

I wish the Washington media would stop busting on Gibbs for every move the team makes. If they play Heyer to get a young guy experience they are criticized for exposing Campbell. But if the team goes out and gets Kendall then that's a waste of a draft choice, even if it helps protect Campbell for the next 1-2 years..??

In 1991 the Redskins went out and acquired Tim Johnson, Eric Williams during the summer to beef up the DL. Johnson, 26, and Williams, 32, came in and contributed to a 14-2 team.

Godfrey and Kendall are quality vets that can help this team win games.

Why short their performance history? Kendall has been a pro bowler in the past.

Don't see any pro bowl berths on Dockery's resume.

Posted by: bulldog | August 23, 2007 9:26 PM | Report abuse

P Daddy Skins Fan, you need to take your blinders off if you think we are angry at Jason because we "falsely" think the team will go places this season. Yes, we always have that hope...as does every fan of every NFL franchise. Who knows what will happy with any team - even the predicted contenders?

That is not what I am angry about...I'm pissed because Jason could just state the facts without the attitude. From every big media account that I've heard and read about....we actually did GOOD. Does not mean we will win but at least we are trying. If we had not made this move, JLC would have been droning on again about the horrid O line just like he did yesterday.

Posted by: Lisa | August 23, 2007 9:30 PM | Report abuse

My breakdown of JLaC's opinion:

As for Kendall: In a nutshell, the Redskins overpaid for a 34-year old guard

Wait right there. Overpaid? A 5th round pick for an above-average starting LG when the team has (as one of your unnamed sources indicated) "a gaping hole at left guard"? I be willing to bet that the Jets could have strung it out into the weekend, watched Pooch and Wade get demolished by the Ravens' D, and gotten a 3rd or 4th out of this. A 5th is very reasonable compensation for a starting-caliber LG, particularly in this case.

same ol story there

Wait right here. Same old story? I suppose if you narrowly characterize this move as a "trade for a player in exchange for a draft pick," well then sure, the Skins have done that. So have every other team in the NFL. The major difference this time is that the Skins did not give up a first-day pick. I agree, giving up a first -day pick is a very steep price (Portis, Lloyd, etc) that should not be paid too frequently. But second-day picks are regularly traded for starting vets (examples: 37yo Trent Green-5th rounder, Dante Hall-5th, Darrell Jackson-4th). This is far from the "same ol story" - and one could even argue that this trade is proof of a correct valuation of their draft picks. Based on past history, would you have been surprised to see them trade a 3rd rounder for starting-caliber LG? I wouldn't. So a 5th tells me they are heading in the right direction.

But the bottom line is because of their doing - poor drafting in the past, inability to develop a young O Lineman, failed experiment trying to bank on Todd Wade becoming a guard, failure to lock up Dockery in the summer of 2006 when he could've been had more cheaply - they HAD to make this trade.

True: the Skins' drafted O-lineman that didn't pan out as well as they hoped. They're doing? Sometimes draft picks don't pan out - that's life in the NFL. They won't get a Cooley or a Rocky or a Campbell or a Betts or a Samuels or a Taylor or a Golston or a Rock every time. Can't BLAME the team for this. True: Wade failed in making the switch. Don't think it was unreasonable for the Skins to have faith that their best back-up lineman could make the switch. PLUS, they were trying to show fiscal restraint with that move by choosing not to panic and pay big $$ to someone like Leonard Davis. Can't BLAME them for that. True: Skins failed to lock up Dock -- although I disagree that the failure goes back to the Summer '06 because the $$ Dock wanted at that point was too much for an average guard, as he was up to that point -- Dock earned his contract in '06, Skins didn't want to pay him more than Samuels, Thomas and Jansen, and Dock got PAID by a desperate Bills team.

I don't envy the situation they put themselves in - desperate for a starting guard a few weeks before the start of the season - but applaud them for going out and finally doing something about it and getting the best guy they probably could so late in the game.

Finally a statement I agree with. Regardless of how the Skins got there, they needed a LG and went out and got the best one available for a very reasonable 5th round price. They deserve kudos. Okay, now we're rolling...

Yeah, teams have gotten Pro Bowl starting quarterbacks for less recently (Trent Green comes to mind), but the Skins were in a bind.

Whoa there big boy - you lost me again. Are you really implying that Trent Green is currently a Pro Bowl caliber QB? This is satire, right? He's 37. He did not look good last year at all (7 TD, 9 INT). Please tell me this is a joke...

Posted by: CMoney | August 23, 2007 9:30 PM | Report abuse

That's offensive. My post about Christmas is legit!!!

Posted by: dimestoreblogger | August 23, 2007 9:30 PM | Report abuse

Couldn't agree with Stumped more. While I've been screaming for this move and I am totally stoked and happy they did it. They should have never gotten to this point, they shouldn't have had to give up a pick to fix a problem a good franchise wouldn't have had. A good franchise would have locked up Dockery two years ago, cause how many good, huge, young, and durable guards start from day one? Or at the very least would have signed or drafted his replacement before trying to convert a career tackle to the position.

But I won't let that get me down, I will focus on the fact that I think we're now going 10-6 and winning the division.

Posted by: Jack | August 23, 2007 9:32 PM | Report abuse

"I could careless waht happens next year ......."

Posted by: Leevi | August 23, 2007 09:15 PM

Actually, the proper saying is I couldN'T care less what happens.......people always get that one wrong...sheesh.

Posted by: Webster | August 23, 2007 9:32 PM | Report abuse


One point to remember: ExtremeSkins is owned by the Redskins, so I'd be suspect of any claims made there that seemingly paints Jason in a bad light or tries to undermine him.

You know XXX Radio will obviously tow the party line, and even the WTOP sports segment I heard late this evening swallowed the spin hook, line, and sinker in simply accepting Gibb's contention that Kendall was signed simply to "be in the mix." So, Jason does really seem to be the only consistently critical point of view. And having read many posts on this blog, there really is very little disagreement with Jason's overall assessment of the Skins FO. (Although, yes, I agree Jason can at times sound too negative/bitter, which can be especially gauling when directed toward a move that was previously deemed a good one on the blog."

Anyway, beware the Red Zebra Propaganda.

Posted by: HaikuMan | August 23, 2007 9:34 PM | Report abuse

Jason,
The tone of the most recent blog feels like you feel vindicated and proved right by the Redskins decision to go get Kendall. I don't think that you have been proven right. The coach never said that the gaurds had done a good job, he simply defended a player, Heyer, who you had blamed for sacks on the QB's. Coach is convinced that Heyer wasn't responsible. That leaves it on the gaurds and the QB's. They have addressed the gaurd issue quite well. You can be objective and question the moves of the team without being bitter and mean spirited. Believe me when I say that if the fan base are given a choice between you and Joe Gibbs who do you think would be chosen? You are a good writer and can find a better way to get your point across.

Posted by: DJ | August 23, 2007 9:37 PM | Report abuse

Thanks for keeping it real JLa. You guys can hate JLa for keepin it real. But tell me one part of that blog that off base......no? I thought so...

Posted by: Skinz | August 23, 2007 9:38 PM | Report abuse

Jack,
This trade is your three martini lunch isn't it?

Posted by: Stumped | August 23, 2007 9:39 PM | Report abuse

CMoney,

How is it not the "same ol story"? Skins live on credit constantly mortaging their future to pay for past/present mistake, no?

You can argue with his tone but not with the substance. He's on point. Skins continue to pay in the future for mistakes made in the past.

Did we need an LG? Clearly.

The fault dear Brutus lies not in our stars, but in ourselves.....

Posted by: Skinz | August 23, 2007 9:42 PM | Report abuse

Hey Canned Ham,

You are a putz, keep hating.
God knows what dribble you'll come up with if we ever win. P.U.T.Z.

Posted by: Tony G. | August 23, 2007 9:46 PM | Report abuse

Thanks for keeping it real JLa. You guys can hate JLa for keepin it real. But tell me one part of that blog that off base......no? I thought so...

Posted by: Skinz | August 23, 2007 09:38 PM

Haven't you read any of the many posts that that suscinctly show that Jason was partially wrong in his opinions but also angry and bitter. I don't think Jason is normally an angry or bitter guy. I'd like to know what the back story is concerning his recent attitude.

Posted by: Anonymous | August 23, 2007 9:49 PM | Report abuse

Smell of Red Zebra?
Over the top vitriol,
Anonymous posts

Posted by: HaikuMan | August 23, 2007 9:51 PM | Report abuse

The backstory is no mystery. It was a personal post to be sure, but his position is defensible. It was probably cathartic. Now he 's writing the story for tomorrows paper.

I can hardly wait (seriously). It'll probably go up in 2-3 more hours.

Posted by: Stumped | August 23, 2007 9:54 PM | Report abuse

JLC, Do you really want to be another Peter King?

Posted by: Anonymous | August 23, 2007 9:55 PM | Report abuse

Please post with a name.

What does "partially wrong" mean? Last time i checked you are wrong or you aren't.

I'm not saying JLa is always right. I disagree and challenge JLa on plenty. But I'm not sure that he posts much that is flat out wrong.

His prognostication may not turn out correct at times but I can't think of times when he has stated things as fact that weren't.

Posted by: Skinz | August 23, 2007 9:56 PM | Report abuse

Jason:

I've checked this blog regulalry since it started to get the Skins news before it actually hits the mainstream sites and you have been pretty good at breaking things, for the most part.

However, it would be much better off for those of us that still read your "beat reporter" articles to consider leaving your personal vendetta against Gibbs/Snyder/etc out of your blogs because it really makes us all wonder how accurate your "outside sources" might be and whether what we are reading is the truth. You are our pipeline to the inner workings of an extremely secretive organization, so give us the facts, not the whiny crap. I almost thought I was reading an 11-year old's AIM chat when I read the "alrighty then, whatever" comment in the last post.

Brilliant work. Keep it up!!!

Posted by: Big Red 6 | August 23, 2007 9:57 PM | Report abuse

Hey I liked the "alrighty then, whatever"

Posted by: Stumped | August 23, 2007 9:59 PM | Report abuse

I guess the major problem is, that we received this great news about Kendall, a good move, fills a hole, creates depth, everyone is happy. Then our main man, the man who generally brings us our good news goes out of his way to point out all the bad things with the move. To be honest I think it shocked a lot of us, it was like we were being built up, just to get knocked back down.

We aren't hating on you JLa, this is the sort of response Jack would've gotten if he had wrote the same thing. And we don't hate Jack.......well I don't anyway!

Posted by: kost52 | August 23, 2007 10:01 PM | Report abuse

I'll tell you whats off base. In previous offseason the Skins gave up draft picks and have suffered the consequences in getting depth on this roster. That being said, did the FO make the same mistake this year? NO!!! They made a move they thought would work and didn't feel it was apropriate to pay Dock $40 million. They couldn't go back in time and re-acquire the picks they lost!!!

In this draft, writer kept saying "The Skins will trade future draft picks to move up and get Calvin Johnson, etc...." Did it happen? Did we trade any picks for vets? We finally focused on keeping our own and going into camp we were set up with 6 picks in next years draft including most importantly, all of our day 1 picks. We have 3 young drafted linebackers, 2 young drafted d-tackles, 4 young drafted players in the secondary...Sure its not perfect, but its progress. The past is the past. You can't change it but you can fix what you do. Now trading for Kendall...Do you really clasify trading a 5th rounder in '08 or a 4th rounder in '09 as mortgaging the future? We mortgaged a small piece of the future (Another Dallas Sartz who was last year's 5th rounder) for someone who will help our 2004 1st rounder and hopeful qb for the next decade healthy.

Ask any Jets fans about this guys ability and they will say he was huge. What would have been smarter Jason, spending $40 million on Dockery or spending a 5th rounder on Kendall. Which one do you think would have larger ramfications on the future of a franchise?

Posted by: Kas | August 23, 2007 10:04 PM | Report abuse

No comments on the Beasley Lloyd brotherhood.
nada, none, zero.

I must say the linked article tempers my hopes for Lloyd, Brandon.


Posted by: Stumped | August 23, 2007 10:04 PM | Report abuse

First of all, to all of you who continue to rip Snyder/Cerrato, including JLC...please shut up. We all know, we all agree and you're not breaking any news by making that same old argument again. Nobody here wants Snyder as the owner, that's a fact.

Now, for 2007, any reasonable unbiased person can see that the FO built the deepest team we've seen in Washington in a long time. The talent of the starters might be average but the depth is way above average.

That being said, they also tried to build depth at guard. Anyone heard of Wade, Fabini, Pucillo, Lefotu and others? It's not like 1 guy didn't pan out...4 guys didn't pan out. That happens to every team, including the Pats, Eagles and Ravens.

So, we could either have the hole or try to fix the problem. In my estimation, we fixed the problem for a relatively low cost.

Posted by: Glass Half Full? | August 23, 2007 10:04 PM | Report abuse

Lotta soul searching going on up here tonight. I am soul searching my guts out. And except the anon a holes lots of good back and forth. Thanks H-Man and Buck Town for talking me off the ledge....

Posted by: chris larry | August 23, 2007 10:06 PM | Report abuse

Allllrighty then

Posted by: Ace Ventura | August 23, 2007 10:07 PM | Report abuse

SSMGO...LMGO

Posted by: Stumped | August 23, 2007 10:09 PM | Report abuse

By the way, I don't like my nightly news anchors having "balanced" opinions when it comes to Iran and America and I don't want my hometown newspaper's sports blog having constantly negative news about my team.

I want a "reasonable homer" who's capable of making criticle points but, in the end, rooting for my Skins on Sunday just like I am. JLC, if you can't at least fake it please turn the blog over to Ivan Carter.

That's a real dude who won't get his panties in a knot when the coach defends his players over some smug reporter's article.

Posted by: Glass Half Full? | August 23, 2007 10:09 PM | Report abuse

Chris Larry, please join me back on the ledge.

Posted by: Glass Half Full? | August 23, 2007 10:11 PM | Report abuse

If it weren't for the pissing contest (can I say that?), Jason's tone is that of a disappointed fan.

But enough about Jason's tone....time to move on Redskins Nation, we got a little stinger, let's shake it off and get back in the game.

Posted by: Stumped | August 23, 2007 10:12 PM | Report abuse

Skinz --

Because I don't consider a 5th round pick "mortgaging our future."

A 1st rounder? Yes. A 2nd rounder? Yes. A third rounder? Yes. But not a 5th rounder.

Do you know what the chances are that a 5th round draft pick becomes a regular starter in the NFL? About 5-10%.

So am I willing to risk that 5-10% chance of landing a future starter to fill an immediate need with the best available player? Absolutely!

Posted by: CMoney | August 23, 2007 10:14 PM | Report abuse

Damn. Jasno. Bro. The attitude lately. What's going on? We've (you included) discussed the short comings of the front office ad nauseum up here. It's no secret how woefully inadequate they've been. But this move had to be made. You basically said so yourself in your article the other day, as did the sources you quoted.

If they didn't make this trade, you'd be straight up b!tch slapping them right into the Ravens game for continuing with the Wade/Pucillo experiment.

A 5th, perhaps 4th, rounder for an above average guard for the next 2 seasons at approximately $5 million total? I'll take it. Yes, it stinks giving up another draft pick, but this isn't a Duckett panic move or a Lloydabingus. It's a position of need, now. They didn't have a starting LG (and yes, it's their own fault for being in this bind in the first place).

Anyway, time for a blog break. Kost52- I think we're still short a person for the football league...might be jm220 who hasn't signed up yet. I'll catch you all later. HTTR! HTTB! HTTP! (Yes, that's a Hail to the Panties shout out for Nate).

Posted by: 4-12 | August 23, 2007 10:15 PM | Report abuse

Sorry for not posting my name. He has various opinions. Some I agree with and think are right on and others I don't agree with and think are way off. Partialy wrong - slightly pregnant, take your pick.

Posted by: DJ | August 23, 2007 10:15 PM | Report abuse

No comments on the Beasley Lloyd brotherhood.
nada, none, zero.

I must say the linked article tempers my hopes for Lloyd, Brandon.


Posted by: Stumped | August 23, 2007 10:04 PM


It's interesting isn't it, you'd have to think that they've spoken to both players before the signing, so maybe it says something about Lloyd's improving maturity??

Posted by: kost52 | August 23, 2007 10:18 PM | Report abuse

The Beasley signing is official...Oh by the way...stating that he is another old guy is not true...8 year vet...should be a perfect back up at FB...Nice pick up

http://www.redskins.com/news/newsDetail.jsp?id=28347

Posted by: Leevi | August 23, 2007 10:18 PM | Report abuse

It bothers nobody that just last week this guy used a live game situation to exercise a personal vendetta against his ownership? At the detriment of his team? At the risk of possible injury to teammates? That doesn't strike anyone as a tad unsportsmanlike? Would Art Monk do that?

The trade is good, the terms are good, the guy is talented, but I can't get beyond that. Worse than when Favre gifted the sack record to Strahan.

Posted by: SMACK | August 23, 2007 10:23 PM | Report abuse

JETS SAVE A LITTLE FACE ON KENDALL DEAL

Despite being taken to the cleaners as part of the Darrelle Revis deal, the last week or so wasn't a complete disaster for the New York Jets.

After all, they traded a guy they didn't want, and who didn't want to be there, for a fifth-round pick in 2008 that could upgrade to a fourth-round pick in 2009.

The move has league insiders questioning the wisdom of the Redskins' decision to send to New York so much for a guy who might have been cut. But, as we see it, buying Kendall's below-market contract was worth the pick, even if the Redskins give Kendall the extra $1 million in 2007 salary that he so desperately wanted.

Besides, the Redskins have decided that they would rather acquire veterans than develop draft picks. Fifth-rounders and fourth-rounders get cut all the time; Kendall is a known commodity who will help the line make up for the departure of Derrick Dockery in free agency.

The only downside is that Kendall is likely to eventually get a stick up his butt about something in D.C., especially as the market for offensive linemen continues to increase.

Posted by: PFT | August 23, 2007 10:27 PM | Report abuse

There's a reason to love the Ravens: THEY HAVE A GM AND CONTINUITY. When Snyder brought back Joe Gibbs he forgot about BOBBY BETHARD.

As a Michigan alumnus I'm hoping the Skin's have Jake Long on their radar right now; this kid right now could end up way better than Jansen or Samuels, and they better do what they can to get him.

When are DC sports journalists going to start asking the Dan Man the hard questions about doing what it takes to be a champion? Because he's got the city by the gonads when it comes to everything Burgundy and Gold are we afraid we'll lose access if we piss him off with tough questions? Is he smart enough to see New England, Baltimore, Indy, Pittsburgh, San Diego, and even Philly build long term contenders, and try to mimic their success? Is he so 'Sinatrian' in wanting to do things 'his way' and keep suffering mediocrity as best?

If this team goes anything less than 8-8 you need to boycott the jerseys, hats, and the DirectTV Redskin packages, and shine the ugly light on Snyder until he gets religion and builds a better organization.

Posted by: adinasi | August 23, 2007 10:27 PM | Report abuse

F the Ravens.

Posted by: Anonymous | August 23, 2007 10:30 PM | Report abuse

Smack,
The story goes that Kendall agreed to restructure his contract to give the team cap room if they would agree to a new deal with a raise in 07-08. The Jets didn't keep their promise, lied, to Kendall. He was mad and felt like he didn't want to play for a bunch of lying liars who lie. His only way out was to be disruptive and hope to be traded. It worked. Would you just accept being screwed out of several milion dollars?

Posted by: DJ | August 23, 2007 10:31 PM | Report abuse

To make room for Kendall on the Redskins' roster, the team waived rookie tight end Tyler Ecker. It's expected that the team will re-sign him and place him on injured reserve.

Posted by: Anonymous | August 23, 2007 10:33 PM | Report abuse

DJ,
I understand his situation. But what did that poor quarterback ever do to him? Pretty cruddy move really.

Posted by: SMACK | August 23, 2007 10:35 PM | Report abuse

Haiku and Bucktown thanks for your calmness.

We're all pots calling the kettle up here and that is what makes us fans. If all this were happening 6 months ago way more people would be scratching their heads at the Kendall signing if not screaming from the rooftops. Go back and read posts from winter.

But part of the joy of being a fan is the closer we get to the season the more hope springs eternal and Skins fans are in a league of their own on this one.

The bottom line is I realistically think we have an outside shot at 10-6.
Why? Cause for the first time in a long time the organization consistently did not make stupid decisions AND made some really good ones AND were clear eyed about what we need right now given our situation. That makes all of us feel good and even excited which goes to show you how low we've sunk which is what I think Jasno was trying to get at in his post.
Is there some bitterness there? Yeah it would appear so. But I'm willing to give much slack because the truth is this blog has been 99% fun and J-La and Cyn Cyty have kept it up so we can come gather around our cyber bonfire and shoot the shti and rage and cry and laugh and scream and yell and hug and smile and think all together.
Living away from DC means I don't have a lot of Skins crazies to keep me company - this blog is my place for that.

So thanks to you guys (even Senores Anon) and to J-La and Cyn Cyty. And J-La if you are in a funk hope you pull out of it. Still think you do a bang up job 9/10 times which is more than I can say.

I'll still be here and I hope all the peeploggers will too.

Oh and BTW - yeah there is the little person inside of me who does think we could. . . .go . . . .all . . . the . . .way.

Hail to the Redskins!
Hail Victory!
Braves on the warpath!
Fight for ole DC!

I apologize for the long post.

Posted by: sfskin | August 23, 2007 10:36 PM | Report abuse

If this team goes anything less than 8-8 you need to boycott the jerseys, hats, and the DirectTV Redskin packages, and shine the ugly light on Snyder until he gets religion and builds a better organization.

Nah, you go ahead and do it and I'll stand back in my Riggins jersey and admire your integrity.

Posted by: DJ | August 23, 2007 10:36 PM | Report abuse

It bothers nobody that just last week this guy used a live game situation to exercise a personal vendetta against his ownership? At the detriment of his team? At the risk of possible injury to teammates? That doesn't strike anyone as a tad unsportsmanlike? Would Art Monk do that?

The trade is good, the terms are good, the guy is talented, but I can't get beyond that. Worse than when Favre gifted the sack record to Strahan.

Posted by: SMACK | August 23, 2007 10:23 PM

At the same time it's just speculation that he did it deliberately.

Posted by: kost52 | August 23, 2007 10:39 PM | Report abuse

F all of you who stick by this SJKholes side while he bashes the Redskins. F the Ravens too JasHo.

Posted by: F you | August 23, 2007 10:43 PM | Report abuse

Well if not, you got a guy with exceptional attention to detail. At least he won't be playing center.

Posted by: SMACK | August 23, 2007 10:46 PM | Report abuse

Finally!!! Most of you are starting to wake up. Mr. "Insider" drags his self off the couch to find out tidbits of news that have already been reported. Great work as always Jason.

You effort or lack of, is right there with the fat guy who can't put down his box of Twinkies long enough to wipe the cream filling off his face.

Your routine, bitterness, and laziness is expected and if it weren't for the regulars that actually CARE about this blog, it would dry up and go away.

I have come to expect your half full attitude. Its a shame you HAVE TO report on the team we are cheer our hearts out for. Maybe you could get reassigned to write the obits, where effort isn't needed there either. The sooner you stop your "Insider" job the better.

I feel safe in saying, the only way you will even come across my 2 cents on this blog tonight is if someone points it out for you or reports it hours before you do.

Posted by: hail to 'em | August 23, 2007 10:47 PM | Report abuse

Mr. LaCanfora:

Do you know how much Dockery was asking for in the summer of '08, and how much the 'Skins were offering? If so, please let us know. If not, I don't see how you can slam the 'Skins for not signing him. Let's remember, until last season, Dockery was an impressive physical specimen who constantly false-started, seemingly at the worse possible times, and too often blew assignments. He had a very good season last year, but may have been asking for more during the preceding summer than his production up to that point would have warranted.

Posted by: rbpalmer | August 23, 2007 10:50 PM | Report abuse

I feel safe in saying, the only way you will even come across my 2 cents on this blog tonight is if someone points it out for you or reports it hours before you do.

Posted by: hail to 'em | August 23, 2007 10:47 PM

Isn't that the way it always happens up here on this "insider" blog?

Posted by: A guy | August 23, 2007 10:50 PM | Report abuse

Stop the madness La Canfora! Please. We get it. The beat guy is not supposed to be a homer. Impartiality rules the day. Move on. When you aren't taking those well placed shots at Gibbs & Snyder et al or the team in general, your stuff is very insightful. You provide what is most definitely the best Skins coverage in TWP & probably in the DC media as well.

When your blog is called Redskins Insider one would presume that it would be a good source of team news for FANS. It just gets to be a real pain to keep reading all the negative crap you continue to cram into RI almost daily. How is it that you can continue to safely come & go at Redskins Park? I guess the Skins don't read RI?

So to sum up, we get it. You like the Ravens. How 'bout just reporting what you know & then stick to telling us what dish channel we can catch a Premier League game or which Black Flag album was the coolest. You edgy hipster you.

Posted by: 70chip | August 23, 2007 10:53 PM | Report abuse

Who farted? This blog stinks.

Posted by: Just for old times sake | August 23, 2007 10:54 PM | Report abuse

CM,

Goldston 6th rounder. Pierce-undrafted. Lamar Marshall-undrafted. Hogs entire o-line 10 round.

Posted by: Skinz | August 23, 2007 10:56 PM | Report abuse

I'm sure it's not the first time a centre has botched two snaps in a game. Especially from a guy who isn't a full time centre. Didn't the Titans have two against us in the first pre-season game?

Not saying I know he DIDN'T do it on purpose, just saying you can't assume he did.

Posted by: kost52 | August 23, 2007 10:57 PM | Report abuse

I bet if we were talking about the quest to 10 million or soccer or entourage then Jasno or Cindy or someone would show up. Damn no backbone having WaPo "insiders". Where are you at now?

Posted by: A$$ | August 23, 2007 10:58 PM | Report abuse

F all of you jacka$$es. Your team sucks and will for a long time. Get used to it. Meanwhile I'll sit back and collect my check. Go Ravens!

Posted by: Jasno | August 23, 2007 11:02 PM | Report abuse

Jasno,

You are an asshat. I am dumber for reading your post and will never regain the lost 3.2 second of my life back. I curse you...may god have mercy on your soul.

Posted by: Skinz | August 23, 2007 11:07 PM | Report abuse

If it took you 3.2 seconds to read that then you are a retarded idiot just like the rest of you Redskins fans.

Posted by: Jasno | August 23, 2007 11:09 PM | Report abuse

Oh and Go Ravens!

Posted by: Jasno | August 23, 2007 11:10 PM | Report abuse

kost, I wish I could see a video of those snaps now. Everything I read was accusatory in nature. I didn't see anyone leaping to Kendall's defense, even Kendall himself.

So you are right - we can't know. It's just that when one person manipulates a game, even in preseason, it makes an ass out of the fan. I just can't stomach that.

Posted by: SMACK | August 23, 2007 11:10 PM | Report abuse

ate 10 bucks worth of taco bell for dinner. my bathroom with no exhaust fan smells better than this blog.

Posted by: Anonymous | August 23, 2007 11:10 PM | Report abuse

Horrors! 4th or 5th round draft pick for a starting left guard! And were paying him a whole 2.7 mil! As if the offensive line didn't need more depth? I think it's great and I think the Skins scored with that one. I mean by the skin of their teeth. Congats to the team. Kendalls in shape a an exprienced pro and I'm sure he won't have any problem stepping right in and I'm also sure he's happy cuz he gets to travel to NY this year.

Posted by: cornerstone63 | August 23, 2007 11:11 PM | Report abuse

J-La is in a tough place. He covers Redskins for the Post where he's called to report, as in, "Just the facts, ma'am." Then, on his own time for the f-u-n of it, he supplies fodder to us fools on this blog. We fools expect opinion, as much fire as fact. St Joe, may he occupy his perch in the aerie so long as we both shall live, can't discern the difference, can't play along, and rips J-La a new one.
"There are three things that no one can do to the entire satisfaction of anyone else: make love, poke the fire, and run [read:write for] a newspaper." William Allen White, 1917 (source: Durango Herald)

I think what has St Joe, may he win football games like a ram covering his ewes, upset with J-La, and we fools, is our agony--the right of every fan (tip o' the hat to sfskin)--over what he sees as sweatin' the small ... Maybe, just maybe St Joe, may his players be strong like bulls, fleet like the horses and have hands like orangutans, has finally gotten his scouting department together, which many will argue is the last area of any team to show mastery of their trade, especially from the dis-organized rat nest the Redskins were under the, "It's mine, all mine," management of Mr Snyder. *phew*, sorry, had to get that out.

So what do I mean? Good scouting allows St Joe, may he convey his wisdom to a disciple whose love for all things Redskins exceeds that of all the rest of the faithful combined, to respond to situations, as in needing a guard at the last minute, when they are needed. Who really gives a flying ... how much the player costs with St Joe's, may all his play calls be great calls and all his challenges be successful challenges, mastery of the "cap" and Mr Snyders insufficiently depleted wallet.

The Redskins are going to score a lot of points this season and hold their opponents to few points. We're gonna kick ...

Hail
Peace

Posted by: Neil in Durango | August 23, 2007 11:11 PM | Report abuse

JLC, you are awful. There is no other way to say it. This is my only post here and it will be my last.

I only started reading RI because I found the Wizards insider and really liked it. They have real breaking info over there, and while they criticize the Wizards, they show a little optimism and faith too, which allows their criticisms to actually carry some weight.

Your writing is the equivalent of reading what Rush Limbaugh thinks about what Hillary Clinton did LAST week. You've actually turned into an office joke, whenever any Skins news pops up we all take our turn trying to predict what negativity you'll throw out there 3 hours or so later.

Posted by: K | August 23, 2007 11:11 PM | Report abuse

Smack shut up already, like your opinion matters about the skins, go give TO a happy ending.....

Posted by: chris larry | August 23, 2007 11:13 PM | Report abuse

There's a simple explanation for JLa's heavy duty attitude.

The man is sleep deprived. He has a new baby in the house. He's losing it.

Now, I know I am a real (SORRY JACK'S KIDS);O to be around when I'm not sleeping right.

So. Jasno. Send the wife and kids to visit her mother for a week. Seriously dude. Or take a pill. Something.

ZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ

Posted by: sieskani | August 23, 2007 11:18 PM | Report abuse

I for one salute our new angry blogmaster.

Posted by: farstriker | August 23, 2007 11:19 PM | Report abuse

This goes back a long way. Maybe it started when Marty took Rod Gardner in the 1st instead of Steve Hutchinson, who by the way, would have been playing next to the same tackle he played next to in college - Jansen.

But this team gave up on chemistry a long time ago. All things considered liked the Kendall move but Beasley/Lloyd? Send 'em both packing.

Posted by: HailrRaljon | August 23, 2007 11:20 PM | Report abuse

JLC is an amateur. It seems as if he was recently promoted from the home and garden section because he has no clue how the NFL "game" is played


Gibbs isn't going to be upfront about issues all the time and it isn't because Joe looks through burgundy and gold glasses. Joe is a head coach in the NFL. When he makes a statement many times it's not to educate the press or the fans, he has other objectives. For example, calling out JLC for bashing the left side of the line. He didn't do it because he thought that JLC was wrong, but because 1) he wanted to motivate his guys and 2) it's very possible that we were in trade talks with the jets and we didn't want to look desperate.

If JLC plans on sticking around he better get a understanding on how this whole thing works. That blog entry where he actually says "Alrighty then. Whatever." shows he has no clue. For the past 5-6 weeks our current o-line has worked very hard. We all know that Kendall will most likely start at LG, but Gibbs isn't going to give him the job before he takes a foot on the practice field. That wouldn't be fair to the guys who have worked hard for the job and it wouldn't be fair to Kendall. Let Kendall come in and prove to his new teammates he is the best player before you give him the job.

JLC has no clue...If anyone is looking for a good Skins blog go to Bram's http://coveringtheredskins.blogspot.com/ and forget about this loser JLC.

Posted by: Tim | August 23, 2007 11:20 PM | Report abuse

Why has it become the trend for local media to openly hate on the team they cover? Take the WTP (Please take it!). La Canfora, Wise, Solomon, Bryant when he was here. They all take great pride it kicking the Skins in the groin. You guys truly are subversive from within.

Tonight on Comcast Kelli "Miss Football 2007" Johnson was spouting on & on about how poorly the Skins front office handles nearly everything. Laughing like she was Chris Rock doing stand-up. No doubt she is a good source for all things pro football because she can refer back to when she had male genitalia and played on special teams.

You can be objective & not bitterly negative. I'm here to tell you it can happen. La Canfora, I'm not saying you have to paint your face burgundy & gold, just stop putting down the team I have lived & died for during the last 30 years. That is not why I subscribe to TWP. If I wanted all you provide, I would read a Cowboys blog.

And start another blog for the IMHO pop culture references or go work for E!.

You couldn't hold Glenn Brenner's jock...

Posted by: 70chip | August 23, 2007 11:21 PM | Report abuse

Eloquent evening. Epic poetry by HK, wisdoms from Bucktown, sfskin. Not much to say that hasn't been said. JLaC's post kind of startled me when I read it, but only b/c it was him -- the sentiments expressed represent near consensus at one time or another this past year. The negative vibe is certainly no different from recent days, weeks.

I was surprised to read about Beasley, mostly b/c it doesn't seem like Saunders uses Sellers enough as it is ... why add another FB to ride pine? [I don't even remember how much Nemo played.] I remember that JLaC was liking Pete Schmitt, so maybe the Beasley hire made him snap.

Winning cures all ills ... but the Skins do still have a Front Office problem ... and The Owner is still in the vanguard of "new owners" who have commoditized and dehumanized the game. No matter how much I think of St. Joe, he still ultimately works for The Owner and he's a storm cloud hanging over the franchise until ... well, I don't know how long.

Nate is on blogrest. I feel pretty good about the Kendall deal, so I'm probably needing to stand back a little myself.

CynCyty, you have to know that this type of post from JLaC is going to be torpedo the rate of the threadcount and the journey to the Penultimatum. Peeps blog when the place is good. Negativity drives them away, at least when it "feels" mean. There IS a difference btwn love-hate and just disgusted disdain.

Steinberg keeps it light.

Posted by: dcsween | August 23, 2007 11:21 PM | Report abuse

Posted by: Bram's blog is the best | August 23, 2007 11:21 PM | Report abuse

I haven't been reading JLC's Blog's all that
long. One thing I do notice is that he constantly rips the Skins. I think it was a very good trade for the Skins. Also, I'm sick of hearing about how we let Dockery go. Everyone else believes the Redskins were smart NOT to overpay for an average guard who
constantly was penalized for false starts. I think JLC is a closet Redsox analyst, maybe he should think about working for the Boston Globe.. with the rest of the fair weather fans

Posted by: skinfaninphilly | August 23, 2007 11:26 PM | Report abuse

Glen Brenner did rule...

Bram's blog looks BORING.....comments: 0,0,1,0,1,-5....

Posted by: chris larry | August 23, 2007 11:30 PM | Report abuse

la Canfora is a hater! KNOW THIS PEOPLE!!! the SKINS NOW HAVE THE MOST TALENT IN THE NFC, on BOTH sides of the BALL!!!!

12-4 Super Bowl

deal w/ it

Posted by: Mittens | August 23, 2007 11:32 PM | Report abuse

I totally agree with Haiku's epic and CMoney's breakdown.

I also agree with Bucktown's take on fans wanting to such offense to JLC's rant.

It does seem the host is not getting adequate sleep, perhaps working to hard, and sick of the 'skins beat.

Here's to hoping for the best to JLC.

In unrelated events, is Nate dead or in a 28 day program? Check his lojack. Nate, hope all is well with you and yours.

Posted by: bangkokben | August 23, 2007 11:33 PM | Report abuse

new post ... no funk

Posted by: Anonymous | August 23, 2007 11:34 PM | Report abuse

Jasno,

Ravens are good....for me to poop on!!!!

Posted by: I'm a dog that insults idiots. | August 23, 2007 11:42 PM | Report abuse

New post meatheads!

Posted by: Anonymous | August 23, 2007 11:53 PM | Report abuse

test

Posted by: h | August 24, 2007 12:03 AM | Report abuse

It looks like Jason will be able to get some rest soon. TWP has hired a new Redskins beat reporter to help him from the LA Times. Spend some time w/ the kids, go see some baseball or soccer. Recharge your batteries and come back with a new and improved attitude. How would you feel if the person you depended on for inside information about the Red Sox took the same view of the team as you do the Redskins? What if his writting came off as smug and smarmy about most things Red Sox? Let me tell you it gets old. I wish you the best but come on dude, show more respect for your readers and fans of the team. We get it that you don't like the organization and this is just a job to you but many of us have many years of emotional capitol invested in this team and can become angry when the thing we care so much about is constantly attacked. Say what you need to say without the bitterness.

Posted by: DJ | August 24, 2007 12:03 AM | Report abuse

wait I thought everyone came to RI to talk to eachother not to really comment on the articles. The articles for me are always allong the lines of "I will give you a topic talk amongst yourselves" idea, no disrespect JLC.

If it is the Gibbs calling out think that has JLC pissed, you know what I would be pissed too if that happened to me? Getting called out for something can piss people off.

Hey on the signing. I got doubble spin for ya. For win now kids, this gives us a line that can pound the rock. For build for the future guys, theres no future for the Skins if Campbell gets Thismaned is there?

Posted by: 35332 | August 24, 2007 12:17 AM | Report abuse

I have to jump in and agree with some of my fellows here about Mr. LaCornhola's gripe with the Skins and the FO.

Definitely he should not be a homer, but he shouldn't be a hater as well. There is a general negative tone to his writing that makes me wonder why he does this at all. Is this the best gig he could score, or is someone making him cover the Skins?

As other have mentioned, the Caps and Wizards have loyal fans that have been kicked in the groin for years by their teams' failings. They all have a bone to pick, but at least they get competent, intelligent, impartial coverage through the WP. Those blogs are not negative at all. Even though the writers do chime in with their two cents, they don't take a giant dump on the team at every opportunity.

A fan has the right to be demanding, crazy, bitter, irrational, absurd, etc. but I expect a bit more from the guy covering the team in an official capacity.

What I am saying here, LaCornhola, is that I'm not crazy about your tone lately. I've been reading these blogs for some time, rarely commenting but enjoying everyone's rants, but lately I do detect some vitriol simmering towards my team. If you were a diehard Skins fan, and you were driven to this state by the past errors of the FO and losing seasons, I could understand. But you're not a fan of my team and you're beating them up at every opportunity.

I welcome and expect fire to fly from my fellow Redskins fans. this is a religion for us. But we close ranks when outsiders rag on our team. I don't like it when ESPN does it, and I don;t like it when LaCornhola does it either.

Now if Sam, Sonny, Riggo, or Theisman want to drop some bombs, I'm all ears.

How about toning it down a bit C-Hole?


Posted by: Demonchants | August 24, 2007 12:41 AM | Report abuse

JLC has got to be the worst Redskins beat reporter I have seen. I don't need a guy who is a homer, but show some objectivity without pushing your own agendas. He obviously has issues with the coaching staff and management. He has become no better than Len Pasquarelli, Dr. Z or any of the other "so-called" media who have personal axes to grind with Snyder and/or Gibbs.

Posted by: Brian | August 24, 2007 8:47 AM | Report abuse

"Jason's a little bitter because he called this one completely wrong."

Jason is doing fine so leave him alone.

The Skins management is a joke, be honest with yourselves. Saying this, this trade was a good trade and needed to happen.

Ok, I just said the same thing Jason said except I was more blunt about it.

Been a Skins fan all of my life and I REALLY appreciate what Jason gives here. His job is to be critical and I hope he keeps doing it because maybe someone on the Skins will finally listen.

I think the Kendall trade was a good one, otherwise you could pretty much forget the Skins making the playoffs. They had a HORRIBLE o-line the last couple weeks and nearly killed their starting QB.

Skins management just doesn't get it yet and it kills me watching them play. O-line and d-linemen win the game for you....everytime.

- Ray

Posted by: Ray | August 24, 2007 10:18 AM | Report abuse

You folks are unreal.

First of all, behind the anonymity of the internet, you can write things that you would never say in person. You also can post under anyone's moniker. I also sense a number of ExtremeSkins.com (i.e., the Redskin-owned "fan" site) posers, with the WashPost and JLaC bashing.

If you don't like Jason's opinions on this blog, STOP READING and go to the Redskin-approved WashTimes or back to ExtremeSkins.com.

If you don't

Posted by: Not Anonymous | August 24, 2007 10:28 AM | Report abuse

I also would like to add that this was a 5-11 team last year, so should you really be expecting them to a model for other franchises?

Posted by: Not Anonymous | August 24, 2007 10:31 AM | Report abuse

With all due respect, anyone who thinks a future 2nd day pick and a measly $2.7 salary is too much to pay a high quality player to fill the biggest position on the team is either an idiot, or someone who is blind and unwilling to see things for what they really are.

Posted by: Mac | August 24, 2007 10:50 AM | Report abuse

I'm concerned that we've brought in two know malcontents. hope this doesn't blow up in our face.

Posted by: congero | August 24, 2007 1:12 PM | Report abuse

Why knock the Kendall trade? To get somebody half decent, you have to give up something.

If we had done nothing and Jason Campbell has been hurt and out for season, then JC would have screamed "why didn't we get Kendall from the Jets?".

Kevin

Posted by: Kevin | August 24, 2007 3:45 PM | Report abuse

lkjlkj

Posted by: kjlkj | August 24, 2007 3:57 PM | Report abuse

Finally you guys got your head out your you-know-whats. This guy(JLC), a Ravens fan, has been $***ting on the burgundy and gold for years. I congratulate those who have awaken there long sleep and feel sorry for those who haven't.

Posted by: HeinekenBeer | August 24, 2007 4:05 PM | Report abuse

I am finding it a little hard to accept that the Offensive Line sucks as bad as some writers seems to think. This is the pre seaon, and 80% of last years line that created enormous running room for Betts to rack off back to back 100 yard games is returning.
I did not consider Dockery to be the lynch pin of this line, and it seems to me that the Redskins went for the financially prudent option of trying to replace from within during the pre season. Having made the decision that it was not up to the required standard they went for Kendall. Am I odd in thinking... you need a starting guard, so you go get a starting guard.
The skins moved back to a strong running game at the end of last season and there seems little reason to think it won't be strong again.
It seems to me that folks have too much time on their hands and I wish I could look 2 years ahead to see with the 2009 draft might bring in the middle rounds. Just accept we needed a decent guard, and now we have one and improved depth at tackle, guard and centre ( spelt the UK way )

Posted by: Ian/ London Uk | August 24, 2007 7:29 PM | Report abuse

What makes "Redskins Insider" a joke is not JLC, but all the delusional skins fans who - under no circumstances - will admit that their team does not know what they are doing.

Posted by: disgruntled skins fan, thinks JLC is dead-on | August 24, 2007 10:24 PM | Report abuse

"And what is up with the talentless, content free clown that post "First"

First in what? Idiocy? Evidence you have no life? First in-line for the short-bus that takes you to the special school? First in-line to clog the network with your brainless drivel? First to prove you spend too much time in front of a computer playing with yourself?"

This was a very good post

Posted by: Anonymous | August 25, 2007 10:14 AM | Report abuse

I am a Redskins fans and a football fan in general. I am old/mature enough to understand that the Skins were 5-11 last year so many of the paid talking heads are not going to be writing glowing reviews about my beloved Skins. My advice to the clones that take this stuff personal is to grow up. JLC gets paid to report Redskins news and sometimes post his opinions. I find him entertaining and pretty accurate most of the time but I do disagree with him/his observations on ocassion. I have never felt the need to attack him personally and lower myself to the level of a petty blog-clone. If you do not like what JLC says then start your own blog and watch people rip you up everyday. Then you might develop a small amount of respect for the opinions of others.

Posted by: the anti-clone | August 25, 2007 1:38 PM | Report abuse

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