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Kyle Shanahan keeps his offensive plans to himself

Coach Mike Shanahan and his son, offensive coordinator Kyle, play things close to the vest.

They reveal little while speaking with reporters in hopes of maintaining a competitive advantage over opponents, so it wasn't surprising the other day that Kyle offered few clues about the team's plans on offense and kickoff returns for the season opener Sunday night against the Dallas Cowboys at FedEx Field.

Mike Shanahan recently acknowledged the obvious, essentially confirming that top back Clinton Portis would start the opener. Big back Larry Johnson is listed second on the depth chart and Keiland Williams, an undrafted rookie free agent out of LSU, is the third back.

Williams impressed during the preseason in beating out Willie Parker and Ryan Torain, who was signed to the practice squad, for a spot on the opening 53-man roster. He could be an intriguing option to fill the third-down role.

"He ran the ball real well," Kyle Shanahan said. "He had some natural running skills and we could trust him. He picked up the protection stuff real well.

"He knows what we're doing, especially for a rookie coming in. He's got no fear, doesn't mind putting his face in guys. He doesn't flinch at contact."

Among the wide receivers, only flanker and top wideout Santana Moss is assured of a starting assignment. Joey Galloway has been listed atop the depth chart at split end throughout the preseason, but "we haven't decided yet" if Galloway will start, Kyle said. "We have really about ... all five guys we can rotate in there. It just depends on what package we're in.

"We played him really against the Jets [in the third preseason game]. With Joey, we know what he could do. We know what Joey is and we wanted to give these younger guys a chance to see what they could do and get more reps. We didn't need Joey to go out there play through entire games just to show us what we already knew."

Third-year player Devin Thomas ended the 2009 season as the starting flanker. But Thomas opened the preseason low on the depth chart at split end and did not play on offense in the third preseason game - generally the one in which a team's key contributors play a lot.

In the fourth preseason game against Arizona, Thomas averaged 27.5 yards on four kickoff returns. He had a long gain of 34 yards.

"He can contribute as much as we ask him to," Kyle said. "He's not slated to do a bunch for us because of the group we have going. He's right there. He'll get some reps. We'll see how it works."

Thomas showed some encouraging signs late in the preseason, Kyle said.

"He got a lot better. He started off a little all over the place, and it got better as it went," he said. "It took longer than we wanted. But he showed a lot of progress throughout camp.

"I know it means a lot to him. He's shown the urgency, now it's just getting to practice like a pro and being more consistent in how he goes about his business."

By Jason Reid  |  September 9, 2010; 10:46 AM ET
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I'm done with the Hall defending for the day. I think I've made my point. I bring objective analysis based on the field production to the argument and others bring up the fact he talks to much. This is pointless....

Posted by: RedDMV | September 9, 2010 10:36 AM |

I hear you red, besides, I'm done with last year and I'm moving on. I cringe at some of the things athlete's say in general. I believe, as you and I stated before, that the Redskins secondary as a whole was the problem last year and not words that were spoken by any of them.


Posted by: hessone | September 9, 2010 10:53 AM | Report abuse

Hmmm. No mention of the swinging gate play...

Posted by: RedSkinHead | September 9, 2010 10:57 AM | Report abuse

The Plan?:

--attack the Cowboys weak secondary by sending S Moss and AA on double 'go' routes

--'max protect' early and often with check downs to CC and FD

--'bootleg' and 'rollout' action coming back to Ware's side to make him honest

--spread FD like a flanker and run to that side knowing their having to cover him with a safety/'backer takes a defender out of the box

--run behind Brown/Hicks to the right


Beyond that, put McNabb in position to win the game---go for the throat!

Play to win, don't play to lose.

Posted by: MistaMoe | September 9, 2010 11:01 AM | Report abuse

I plan to keep my money to myself.

Posted by: Albert_Haynesworth | September 9, 2010 11:01 AM | Report abuse

dam, the dallas offensive line woes post would have been much more fun to talk about than rehashed coach speak.

Posted by: chrislarry | September 9, 2010 11:02 AM | Report abuse


Any team that depends on its corners to tackle a lot has problems outside of poor cornerback play.

Posted by: MistaMoe | September 9, 2010 10:52 AM |

co-sign, corners should cover receivers on pass plays and contain and take out interference on the running plays. An occasional blitz is in order.

Posted by: hessone | September 9, 2010 11:03 AM | Report abuse

Rypien11,
i saw a few days back how you were traveling in from 400 miles away, or something like that, like you always do, and staying in the hotel, like you always do.... that's why i answered your question. wow...THAT's a fan. i mean, i'm a fan and all, and i'll be watching and all, but i'm just traveling from kitchen to sofa to bathroom to sofa etc...

what's the farthest any redskin fan is coming to watch the game? (i guess this question/poll is only so accurate in that only people reading this blog will even have a chance to answer.) so, any of you other out-or-towners coming to the game?

Posted by: walter-in-fallschurch | September 9, 2010 10:46 AM | Report abuse
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walter, I drove down from Boston to see a game in 2008....

Posted by: BeantownGreg1 | September 9, 2010 10:49 AM | Report abuse
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jeez, bean...what's that? like 8-10 hours each way?!

i guess there are two aspects to this question:

1)distance

2)travel time

i mean someone flying in from CA would have ~ 3000 miles each way, but only 6-8 hours travel time (figuring showing up early at the airport, check-in etc...)

Posted by: walter-in-fallschurch | September 9, 2010 11:07 AM | Report abuse

Posted by: walter-in-fallschurch | September 9, 2010 10:46 AM

Thanks Walter. Yeah our family has 3 season tickets in section 118... we've had them for about 10 years now and try to get down to at least 2-3 games a year and sell the others.

Sucks living up here in Giants country. Their summer practice is a couple miles down the road. Plus we pretty much have to go a bar to watch games on Sunday cause they're rarely on TV here.

Posted by: Rypien11 | September 9, 2010 11:08 AM | Report abuse

"Hmmm. No mention of the swinging gate play..."

Or a fake punt. ;)

- Ray

Posted by: rmcazz | September 9, 2010 11:08 AM | Report abuse


That picture of Shanahan on the Redskins page, he looks like Mr. Magoo.

Posted by: hessone | September 9, 2010 11:10 AM | Report abuse

walter, it was about 8 1/2 hours each way...wife got me tix for our 14th wedding anniversary...it was a Sunday night game against Dallas, which unfortunately they lost......

Posted by: BeantownGreg1 | September 9, 2010 11:11 AM | Report abuse

Any team that depends on its corners to tackle a lot has problems outside of poor cornerback play.

Posted by: MistaMoe | September 9, 2010 10:52 AM |

co-sign, corners should cover receivers on pass plays and contain and take out interference on the running plays. An occasional blitz is in order.

Posted by: hessone | September 9, 2010 11:03 AM | Report abuse

While this is true. All 11 players on the field should be able to tackle, esp on D. Even on offense i hate seeing qbs(Payton comes to mind) doing everything they can to avoid making a play. Yea yeh i know what if he gets injuried. Im just saying in professional football tackling should be a given.

Posted by: Stu27 | September 9, 2010 11:11 AM | Report abuse

I guess when Devin Thomas peeped the depth chart and saw himself listed as the third SE pride and ego took a hold and lit a fire under his ass.


If I were Thomas, I'd be embarrassed that it even appears that a 38 year old gray beard WR would start over me, especially one that has been done for a few years now...

Posted by: RedDMV | September 9, 2010 11:14 AM | Report abuse

Play to win, don't play to lose.

Posted by: MistaMoe | September 9, 2010 11:01 AM


With the chip on Shanahan's shoulder this year, I doubt we'll have to tell this coaching staff that.

Watching this Top 100 players stuff on NFLN...no chance Strahan should be on this list...no f*cking way...

Posted by: brownwood26 | September 9, 2010 11:15 AM | Report abuse

Happy Rosh Hashannahan!

Posted by: No_Punt_Intended | September 9, 2010 11:16 AM | Report abuse

red, cosign on DT...I'm a fan of his so I REALLY want him to start to 'get it'...

Posted by: BeantownGreg1 | September 9, 2010 11:16 AM | Report abuse

"Hmmm. No mention of the swinging gate play..."

Or a fake punt. ;)

- Ray

Posted by: rmcazz | September 9, 2010 11:08 AM
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The key is to stay medium.

Posted by: RedSkinHead | September 9, 2010 11:17 AM | Report abuse

I hate to be the bearer of bad news, but your LT Bent Williams doesn't stand a chance against Ware. If you think Suggs fractured McNabb's ankle just wait until Ware unloads on him. The trainers better have their smelling salts handy and Shanahan better make sure your backup QBs (both of 'em) are ready to go.

I stand by my original prediction:

Cowboys 35
Redskins 3

Wish I could be in DC to see you clowns flying Cowboys flags on your cars after you lose. Other than that, there's no other reason for me to ever visit that hellhole again. It just doesn't get any better than Pampa, Texas.

Warmly,
Joe

Posted by: PampaTex | September 9, 2010 9:58 AM

he-he-he. these lunkheads are gloating because we're going to be without colombo and kosier. don't they realize we could take an o-lineman from any high school in texas and put him in the trenches without missing a beat against a team of their caliber?

redtards are in for a texas-sized beatdown. no excuses from the cowboys but the closer we get to kickoff watch these b!tches start looking for wiggle room (mcfatt's ankle isn't healed, haynesgirth is a distraction, etc.). waaah, waaah, waaah.

Posted by: 10peterbilt | September 9, 2010 11:18 AM | Report abuse

Not Skins related, but pretty funny if you liked the movie "Rudy":

Joe Montana creates a controversy by debunking "Rudy"
Posted by Michael David Smith on September 9, 2010 10:15 AM ET
Before he was a Pro Football Hall of Famer, Joe Montana was a Notre Dame quarterback and teammate of Daniel Ruettiger, the inspiration for the movie Rudy. And now there's a little bit of a controversy brewing over Montana's disdain for the film.

Montana said on The Dan Patrick Show that no one was chanting Rudy's name during the final game of Ruettiger's Notre Dame career, which served as the climax of the movie. And he said that when his teammates famously carried Ruettiger off the field on their shoulders, it was more of a goof on their diminutive teammate than anything else.

"I won't say it was a joke, but it was playing around," Montana said.

Dan Patrick responded to that by saying, "You're ruining it for me," and now TMZ is making an issue of it.

TMZ quotes another Notre Dame teammate, Jay Achterhoff, as calling the movie "98% true" and being "disappointed that [Montana] wasn't more supportive of Rudy."

"Rudy was carried off the field that day . . . but not as a joke -- but because he finally got to play," Achterhoff said. "You've never in your life seen a guy who wanted to be on the field more."

The game in question took place 35 years ago, so it's not surprising that different people remember the events differently. But suffice to say, Ruettiger has served as an inspiration for many, even if the Hollywood ending to Rudy was too good to be true.

Posted by: brownwood26 | September 9, 2010 11:19 AM | Report abuse

i mean someone flying in from CA would have ~ 3000 miles each way, but only 6-8 hours travel time (figuring showing up early at the airport, check-in etc...)

Posted by: walter-in-fallschurch | September 9, 2010 11:07 AM |

6-8 hours my ass. Try 9-10 depending on those moron TSA guys, understand check-in counters and 1-2 hours layover plus rental car check-in, hotel check-in, etc., etc. Hell, that might even be a little low.

Posted by: scampbell1975 | September 9, 2010 11:20 AM | Report abuse

Was supposed to be understaffed check-in counters...duh

Posted by: scampbell1975 | September 9, 2010 11:22 AM | Report abuse

I have a feeling the Redskins WRs will be poor fantasy options, not unlike the Saints' group of guys.

That's not to say the position won't be productive as a group, though. I think this team will see a lot spreading the ball around among the 4 wideouts behind Moss (not including Banks). I don't see one of them stepping up consistently across from Moss, but I do see all 4 of them contributing steadily throughout the season.

Truth be told, I actually like it better that way.

Posted by: psps23 | September 9, 2010 11:23 AM | Report abuse

F Montana

Rudy rulz
Montana drulz

Posted by: chrislarry | September 9, 2010 11:25 AM | Report abuse

"We have really about ... all five guys we can rotate in there. It just depends on what package we're in."

But they kept 6 WR (Moss, Galloway, Armstrong, Williams, Thomas, and Banks).

Looks like they admitted what must of us knew - Banks isn't going to see time at WR.

Posted by: jesuisunpizza | September 9, 2010 11:26 AM | Report abuse


10peterbilt = he-he-he

So predictable

Posted by: hessone | September 9, 2010 11:26 AM | Report abuse

Devin Thomas = Jocoby Jones?

Posted by: TWISI | September 9, 2010 11:26 AM | Report abuse

Sounds like the sour puss Montana was played in the movie by Vince Vaughn as the ahole QB who hated rudy!

Posted by: chrislarry | September 9, 2010 11:28 AM | Report abuse

I'm sick of these fake Dallas fans who are really RI regulars bringing their asses up here to try and rile up the board. It's beyond obvious and just lame.

I guess these fake Dallas "fans" call themselves "real" Redskins fans who are just trying to hype up Dallas week.

HEY FAKE DALLAS FANS WHO ARE REALLY REDSKIN FANS: WE DON'T NEED THAT SH*T! GO ELSEWHERE!

Posted by: RedDMV | September 9, 2010 11:30 AM | Report abuse

Not Skins related, but pretty funny if you liked the movie "Rudy":

Joe Montana creates a controversy by debunking "Rudy"
Posted by Michael David Smith on September 9, 2010 10:15 AM ET
Before he was a Pro Football Hall of Famer, Joe Montana was a Notre Dame quarterback and teammate of Daniel Ruettiger, the inspiration for the movie Rudy. And now there's a little bit of a controversy brewing over Montana's disdain for the film.

Montana said on The Dan Patrick Show that no one was chanting Rudy's name during the final game of Ruettiger's Notre Dame career, which served as the climax of the movie. And he said that when his teammates famously carried Ruettiger off the field on their shoulders, it was more of a goof on their diminutive teammate than anything else.

"I won't say it was a joke, but it was playing around," Montana said.

Dan Patrick responded to that by saying, "You're ruining it for me," and now TMZ is making an issue of it.

TMZ quotes another Notre Dame teammate, Jay Achterhoff, as calling the movie "98% true" and being "disappointed that [Montana] wasn't more supportive of Rudy."

"Rudy was carried off the field that day . . . but not as a joke -- but because he finally got to play," Achterhoff said. "You've never in your life seen a guy who wanted to be on the field more."

The game in question took place 35 years ago, so it's not surprising that different people remember the events differently. But suffice to say, Ruettiger has served as an inspiration for many, even if the Hollywood ending to Rudy was too good to be true.

Posted by: brownwood26 | September 9, 2010 11:19 AM |


Wow, Joe Montana bi*ching about ANYTHING that he might have even been indirectly referenced in but not been paid for?

Shocker!

Tell him to go hock some more Sketchers. I am surprised he doesn't sue Max Headroom for using his likeness!

He's a first ballot/unanimous inductee in the dooshbag HOF.

Posted by: No_Punt_Intended | September 9, 2010 11:30 AM | Report abuse

RUDY.... RUDY.... RUDY.... RUDY.... RUDY....
That said, kinda overrated movie.

Posted by: alex35332 | September 9, 2010 11:31 AM | Report abuse

alex, your banned for the day...overated...get the fug outta here.

Posted by: chrislarry | September 9, 2010 11:34 AM | Report abuse

hessone = redtard moron

reddmv = wannabe cowboys fan

hessone + reddmv = 99% of redtards fan base

talk at both of you candyasses on monday!

Posted by: 10peterbilt | September 9, 2010 11:36 AM | Report abuse

Sounds like the sour puss Montana was played in the movie by Vince Vaughn as the ahole QB who hated rudy!

Posted by: chrislarry | September 9, 2010 11:28 AM |

VV played a highly recruited halfback who ripped on Rudy in, "..The last practice of the season and this a-hole is playing like it's the (did he say championship game or Super Bowl?).."

Then, VV's charactor was the one who called the play for the QB at the end of the game (that QB looked like a young Johnny Unitas - maybe that's why Joey was pizzed), a halfback pass to some other scrub so the D could get the ball back.

There's a part at the end where VV is clapping it up and totally looks straight out of a Melwood commercial.

Posted by: No_Punt_Intended | September 9, 2010 11:36 AM | Report abuse

Sounds like the sour puss Montana was played in the movie by Vince Vaughn as the ahole QB who hated rudy!
Posted by: chrislarry | September 9, 2010 11:28 AM |

“Needle-dick! Needle-dick!”

Wait, what movie are we talking about?

Montana is turning into a real doosh. First he refuses to participate in anything nfl related as “protest” for the ex players lack of medical benefits, and now he’s trashing Rudy? What an azz.

Posted by: dlhaze1 | September 9, 2010 11:40 AM | Report abuse

This is so boring. I want to talk about me.

Posted by: Albert_Haynesworth | September 9, 2010 11:40 AM | Report abuse

hessone = redtard moron

reddmv = wannabe cowboys fan

hessone + reddmv = 99% of redtards fan base

talk at both of you candyasses on monday!

Posted by: 10peterbilt | September 9, 2010 11:36 AM
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Being criticized by a Dallas fan is kind of like have your Converse sneakers dry humped by a Chihuahua.

Posted by: RedSkinHead | September 9, 2010 11:41 AM | Report abuse

Sounds crazy to even suggest given how their careers played out, but could Montana be jealous much? Maybe he'd like a movie made about him or something.

Two things:

Rudy came out in what, '92? '94? And he's just NOW speaking on it? I call bs on that one.

It was a Notre Dame game, weren't they one of the first schools to sign a TV contract or even have their games broadcast on TV? If there are discrepancies in stories on what really happened go to the tape... seems simple to me if there is footage.

Posted by: RedDMV | September 9, 2010 11:43 AM | Report abuse

I liked "Rudy", but since that same actor played a hobbit in Lord of the Rings, I can never view him - or the movie - the same.

Posted by: p1funk | September 9, 2010 11:46 AM | Report abuse

Hobbits rulz
p1funk drulz

Posted by: chrislarry | September 9, 2010 11:50 AM | Report abuse

10peterbilt = beady eyed buck toothed slack jawed asshat who's a McLameovich (love that radio commercial) uber deuche for pretending to be a Dallas fan when he's really a Redskins fan.

Then again, you're just a piece of petrified dog sh*t, end of story. No self-respecting Redskin fan would ever stoop that low in the first place.

Fu_kface!

Posted by: RedDMV | September 9, 2010 11:50 AM | Report abuse

Hobbits rulz
p1funk drulz

Posted by: chrislarry | September 9, 2010 11:50 AM | Report abuse


Lord of the Rings trilogy is my fave all-time flicks, so chill.

It's just that everytime I see that actor, I imagine a hairy-footed midget yelling "Mr. Frodo"...which I guess isn't too far off from "Rudy"...except for the Mr. Frodo part.

Posted by: p1funk | September 9, 2010 11:54 AM | Report abuse

Both VJax and AH are being dealt with appropriately. I can't imagine a trade for VJax, with both Vjax and AH on the Redskins roster. That would be a move Cerrato would make and we hope those days are long gone. 3 more days !!!!

Posted by: hessone | September 9, 2010 6:55 AM | Report abuse

Guess you've never been in a three way Hess.

Or played chess.

Or can't envision another sunny day if its raining outside.

FA=2nd=VJax does not =FA/VJax on same roster.

Posted by: SkinsfaninKaneohe | September 9, 2010 11:57 AM | Report abuse

I don’t wanna go all Montana on you guys, but you do realize that 98% of the Lord of the Rings is not true, right?

Posted by: dlhaze1 | September 9, 2010 12:01 PM | Report abuse

Beep

Posted by: RedSkinHead | September 9, 2010 12:03 PM | Report abuse

I liked "Rudy", but since that same actor played a hobbit in Lord of the Rings, I can never view him - or the movie - the same.

Posted by: p1funk | September 9, 2010 11:46 AM

Oh...that part he played in 50 First Dates with Sandler...just rediculous...

Posted by: PlayAction | September 9, 2010 12:03 PM | Report abuse

just jabbing at you p1....But I say goonies/white water summer/LOTR/Rudy....what a career...not bad for Patty Duke's kid!

Posted by: chrislarry | September 9, 2010 12:03 PM | Report abuse

sorry i struck a nerve, reddmv.

you flatter yourself when you say i'm a redtards fan. can't stand the redtards or their obnoxious, vacuous, horse-toothed fans. never have and never will, you assw!pe.

make sure you show your loser face on monday, ya hear?!

Posted by: 10peterbilt | September 9, 2010 12:03 PM | Report abuse

Red, here's how you deal with a Dall-ass fan:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n3M5Gj92iiE

Posted by: brownwood26 | September 9, 2010 12:06 PM | Report abuse

Are the Skinnies going to wear burgundy and black?

Posted by: jnsbear | September 9, 2010 12:06 PM | Report abuse

'Skins v. Pokes - Breakdown

O-Line - Advantage 'Skins

D-Line - Advantage 'Skins (assuming Haney plays)

QB - Slight Advantage, Pokes

Starting RB - Advantage 'Skins (yes, really)

WR's - Advantage Pokes

TE - Advantage 'Skins

Secondary - Push

Linebackers - Push

Kicking - Advantage 'Skins

Coaching - Unfair Advantage 'Skins


BOOK ME!

Posted by: No_Punt_Intended | September 9, 2010 10:16 AM | Report abuse

Ummm after taking the homer glasses off I think this is more like it:

'Skins v. Pokes - Breakdown

O-Line - Advantage 'Skins

D-Line - Advantage 'Pokes (Ratliff is probably the best in the game right now; we have zero DTs that compare on the field (not on paper; Haney has mailed it in imo))

QB - Slight Advantage, Pokes

Starting RB - Advantage 'Pokes (come on really? not that close)

WR's - Advantage Pokes

TE - Push

Secondary - Push

Linebackers - Advantage Pokes (Not that close; they are buiilt for the 3-4, we aren't)

Kicking - have not clue but I like Gano and bidwell. I'll say Advantage skins

Coaching - Advantage 'Skins

Posted by: overzealous08 | September 9, 2010 12:08 PM | Report abuse

sorry i struck a nerve, reddmv.

you flatter yourself when you say i'm a redtards fan. can't stand the redtards or their obnoxious, vacuous, horse-toothed fans. never have and never will, you assw!pe.

make sure you show your loser face on monday, ya hear?!

Posted by: 10peterbilt | September 9, 2010 12:03 PM

Make sure you come back on Monday after we bury your team. And don't come with any weak sh!t either about your RT and LG being injured as the reason why you lost and why Romo will be on IR for the rest of the season.

Posted by: HokiesSkins | September 9, 2010 12:20 PM | Report abuse

The game in question took place 35 years ago, so it's not surprising that different people remember the events differently. But suffice to say, Ruettiger has served as an inspiration for many, even if the Hollywood ending to Rudy was too good to be true.

Posted by: brownwood26 | September 9, 2010 11:19 AM |

excellent commentary. just as a side note, Daniel Reutigger now lives in Henderson, NV and works as a motivational speaker. A few of my co-workers have seen him speak and said he is pretty good. I have seen him in person at a local supermarket...he has put on a little weight over the years and I would say he is wider than he is tall now. I wouldn't feel too sorry for him though, as he lives a pretty good life in a very large home in a very expensive, gated, golf course community.

Posted by: RiggosRangers73 | September 9, 2010 1:24 PM | Report abuse

I don't feel sorry for Rudy I feel sorry for montana that he would feel it necessary to ruin an inspirational story for the little guys. We can't all be hall of famers. It really says a lot about his character. What an anus.

Posted by: augustiswest | September 9, 2010 2:25 PM | Report abuse

Flying in from Hollywood for the Texans game. That's 3k each way but, let's not look ahead. One game at a time. Puke on Duke. Strike that, puke on the COWards.

Posted by: WestCoastBullet | September 9, 2010 2:38 PM | Report abuse

damn he ripped into Devin Thomas...can't believe he hasn't looked good for the Shanahan's yet...I hate to say that he's a draft bust, but dude need to step it up

Posted by: butterballman | September 9, 2010 5:16 PM | Report abuse

any NFL player who after 2 full years and a full training camp in their 3rd year, still needs to learn to "practice like a pro," is a loser and should have been cut. don't we hear this every year about DT? I mean how stupid is that guy? it's amazing to keep hearing this about this idiot, from two coaching administrations.

Posted by: greatteamdan | September 11, 2010 11:40 AM | Report abuse

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